1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome in as Vertical Center. Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: and we get to start with some pretty big breaking news. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: The Texas Democratic fugitives. They've conceded. They are apparently going 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: to return to Austin as the latest report center. This 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: is certainly going to be tears to many liberals that 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: were cheering them on in sanctuary states. Now they're going 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: to actually have to go back to work. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Well, this is news that broke this evening. The Texas 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Democrats who had fled the state the House Democrats defeat 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: a quorum in order to stop the redistricting in the 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: state of Texas. They've surrendered, They've admitted defeat. They've announced 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: that they are coming back. We're going to break that down. 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: We're going to tell you why they're coming back. We're 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: going to tell you about what legal authorities the governor 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: and the Speaker of the House had and used to 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: force them to come back. And we're also going to 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: talk more broadly about the issue of jerry mandering because 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: we have seen in the last two weeks, we have 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: seen democrats, we have seen blue state governors, we have 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: seen the media clutching their pearls saying this is horrible, 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: this is a theft of democracy, and I got to 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: say in the Annals of Hypocrisy, the democrats reaction to 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: Texas's redistricting may be at the top of the list 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: of utter complete nonsense and hypocrisy. We're gonna give you 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: the facts of what exactly Democrat states do when they 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: draw congressional redistricts and compare it to Republican states and 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: spoiler alerts, the Democrat states are much much, much more 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: egregious in gerrymandering their states than Republican states ever are. 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna give you the facts so that when you're 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: standing around the water cooler, you're gonna know the response 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: to someone who decides to do some pearl clutching on 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: their own. 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 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You even have Gavin 72 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Newsom getting in on this. He sends a letter to 73 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: the Presidence like, well, if you guys don't stop what 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: they're doing there, then we may have to jerrymandering in 75 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: California and get those seats back that you steal from Democrats. 76 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: News Alert they've been doing this for decades in California. 77 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: That kind of I fired on in pretty quickly. But 78 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: now the Democrats are coming home. 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: Well they are, and that's the breaking news this evening. 80 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: So I'm reading from one news story here in Texas. 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: ABC thirteen is confirmed with multiple sources that House Democrats 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: will return to Texas. Eyewitness News has not confirmed the date, 83 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: but we do know that the Democrats believe they've accomplished 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: their mission by killing the first special session and raising 85 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: national awareness about the mid decade redistricting effort. It is 86 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: unclear which day they will be in Austin at the Capitol, 87 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: but they stress that they will push for Hill Country 88 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: flooding relief to be the priority. After our initial reporting 89 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: online and on television, a spokesperson for the Texas Democratic 90 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: Caucus set the following statement to ABC News quote, members 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: are still assessing their strategies going forward and are in 92 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: private meeting to make decisions about future plans. Currently, if 93 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: and when the Texas House Democrats breaking quorum decide to 94 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: go home is squarely dependent upon the actions of the governor, 95 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: Speaker and Texas Republicans in charge make with regard to 96 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: prioritizing flood victims over redistricting. 97 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 4: That hurts Texans. 98 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: So that's their talking point, but the ultimate bottom line 99 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: is they've announced they're coming back. 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: Now, why are they coming back? They're coming back. 101 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: Number one because the governor and the Speaker of the 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 2: House is issued in order to arrest them, to bring 103 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: them back forcibly and arrest them. 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: Number two, the. 105 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: Speaker of the House has the authority to find them 106 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars a day for every day they are 107 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: absent and break quorum. 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: They change the rules in the hent in the House. 109 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: And by the way, that five hundred dollars cannot be 110 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: paid from campaign funds. You can't raise money for it. 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: It's five hundred dollars out of your personal pocket if 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: you refuse to show up. 113 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: It's amazing how that changes everything for the Democrats. So 114 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: hold on a second. We can't can't talk about her money. 115 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: What money, What do you mean money? 116 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 117 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 118 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: And number three, and the Governor is proceeding in front 119 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: of the Texas Supreme Court to seek to declare those 120 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: offices vacant and remove them from office. And so they 121 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: were facing a legal barrage and they knuckled under it. 122 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: They were engaged in. 123 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: That, they were engaged in a lot of smoke and 124 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: mirrors and show they were throwing a hissy fit. But 125 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Ben mark myert words. 126 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: The result, Texas will pass this redistricting bill, and the 127 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: consequence of it is going to be five additional Republicans 128 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: elected to Congress from the state of Texas. That is 129 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: going to happen, and the Democrats, they may decide to 130 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: play out and to have their righteous anger while they 131 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: rush off to their comrades to say, we think it 132 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: is terrible when Republicans are elected, but they will lose 133 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: because they don't have the leverage. And I'll tell you, Ben, 134 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: that this is actually a topic that I've got some 135 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: personal experience in. 136 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: You've dealt with this before, literally in your own life. 137 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: Well, So, in two thousand and two, Greg Abbott was 138 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: elected the Attorney General of Texas. He'd been on the 139 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: Texas Supreme Court, he was elected AG. When he was 140 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: elected AG, he interviewed this this young kid lawyer to 141 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: be Solicitor General. And Okay, I'm actually going to take 142 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: a break. Have I ever told you the story of 143 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: how I got the job of SG. 144 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 3: No? 145 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm in DC. I'm working in the George W. 146 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: Bush administration. I'm the head of policy at the Federal 147 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: Trade Commission and a buddy of mine calls and says, hey, 148 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: Greg Abbott was just elected AG. And I said, well, yeah, 149 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: I knew that I wasn't a complete idiot. And he said, well, 150 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: he's looking for an SG. Are you willing to have 151 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: your name considered? And I said, well, let me think 152 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: about it. Let me talk with Heidi, and I'll call 153 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: you back tomorrow and let you know. And I talked 154 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: with Heidi. I said, what do you think? She said, 155 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: absolutely yes, put your name in. I think that's great. 156 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: So I pulled together a resume, I sent it down, 157 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: and a day or two later I got a call 158 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: asking me to come down to all interview. 159 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: So I did. I went down and interviewed. 160 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Now I didn't know Greg Abbott at all, and I 161 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: frankly assumed I'd never get the job. That he would 162 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: hire someone who'd known twenty years. That's kind of the 163 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: way of the world. He'd hire a buddy of his, 164 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 2: another lawyer. 165 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: He knew baseball in politics, right, you go with someone 166 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: you're familiar with. 167 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: So I went down there. Now, I'm thirty one years old, 168 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: I'm a kid. I do the interview. I don't know 169 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: him at all, and a couple days later, I'm actually 170 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: out with Heidi. We're in California at her parents' house 171 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: and it's about six in the morning where but we're 172 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: both asleep in bed and my cell phone rings. I 173 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: answer it and it's Greg Abbott and he's calling to 174 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: offer me the job of SG and I was I 175 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: was floored. But I got to tell you, Heidi almost 176 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: fell out of bed. She was so shocked, and she 177 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: told me she said, well, look, I told you to 178 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: interview because I knew there was no chance you could 179 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: get the job. I knew it was absolutely hopeless. And 180 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: I actually almost didn't get the job. Abbott told me 181 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: later that he almost didn't make me the offer because 182 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: he didn't think I had the wine, because he didn't 183 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: think I had the experience to be a very good 184 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: oral advocate. 185 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: At the time, you didn't put debate champ on your resume. 186 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm a little disappointed in you. There. 187 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: Well it was there, But at the time I had 188 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: only argued two cases in my life, so I was 189 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: thirty one. Now I won both of them. The two 190 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: cases i'd argue I'd won. One was a Court of 191 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: Appeals case in private practice, and the other was in 192 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: a federal district court in New York on behalf of 193 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: the FTC. Now, I will say, in the case in 194 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: New York on the other side was the head of 195 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: litigation at Crevass, Swain and Moore, which is one of 196 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: the top law firms in the country. And I took 197 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: him on and beat him in court. And so those 198 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: two arguments, I leaned in hard and said, look, I've 199 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: done two arguments. I'm two and oh. They were both 200 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: hard cases. They mattered and somehow. You know, if you 201 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: ever saw the movie Job, if you ever saw the 202 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: movie Chicago with Richard Gear where they go and now 203 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: a tap dance. 204 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: So I get the job. I head back to Texas. 205 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: I'm in Austin. 206 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: Spring of two thousand and three, the Texas House, for 207 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: the first time in decades becomes Republican, and so the 208 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: Texas House begins to do mid decade redistricting. Now what 209 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: is mid decade redistricting. Ordinarily, redistricting happens right after the 210 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: turn of the decade. So if you get a new 211 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: new decade, you get a new census, and with a 212 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: new census, you do redistricting with the new numbers that 213 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: have come out from the census. That's how it ordinarily happens. Well, 214 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: back in two thousand and one, Texas had done redistricting, 215 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: but the Democrats controlled the House, and so Texas had 216 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: the most egregious partisan jerymander in the country because even 217 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: though Texas was voting overwhelmingly Republican on the statewide level, 218 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Texas was electing a majority of Democrats to the congressional delegation. 219 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: The Texas Democrats had drawn a map to elect the 220 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: opposite congressional delegation from the way the state was voting, 221 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: and it was the nastiest partisan gerrymander in the country 222 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: by the Texas Democrats. That's what they'd done. So in 223 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: two thousand and three, when Republicans took the House, they decided, Okay, 224 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: we're going to do redistricting so that we can draw 225 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: a map that alects a congressional delegation that reflects the 226 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: values of the voters of Texas. So they did so, 227 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: and the Texas Democrats in two thousand and three did 228 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: exactly what the Texas Democrats did in twenty twenty five, 229 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: which is they fled. They said, run away, run away, 230 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: And so the House Democrats they went north to Ardmore, 231 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: Oklahoma state, a little holiday inn just over over the 232 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: Red River, and that the Senate Democrats they went to 233 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico, to a fancy, a very 234 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 2: fancy hotel. And I thought it was really funny that 235 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: the senators, the Democrats senators were going to a shishi hotel, 236 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: and that the House members were at a holiday inn 237 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: in Oklahoma. But so one of the first things that 238 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: happened is is that the Speaker of the House, Tom Cratick, 239 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: a great guy, picks up the phone and he calls 240 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: Greg Abbott, the brand new Attorney General, and he says, General, 241 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: can I arrest the fleeing House Democrats? And Abbot said, 242 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. He said, let me let you let 243 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: me figure it out. So Abbot picks up the phone. 244 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: He calls me, I'm brand new in my job as SG. 245 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: He goes ted. The Speaker wants to know can he 246 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: arrest the fleeing Democrats who are fleeing the state. I said, General, 247 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, let me research it. I'll give you 248 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: an answer. So I sat down, I did the legal research. 249 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: It turns out the answer is unequivocally yes, and The 250 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: reason is the Texas Constitution has a provision in it 251 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: that is copied word for word from the United States Constitution, 252 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: and the US Constitution has a provision that gives both 253 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,479 Speaker 2: Houses of Congress the power to forcibly compel the attendance 254 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: of absent members so that members do not have the 255 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: right to defy a quorum. And in fact, multiple times 256 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: that has been used carrying House members or senators into 257 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: the chambers in lake irons in handcuffs. And so I 258 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: came back and said, the answer is unequivocally yes, you 259 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: can arrest them. Now became a little bit complicated when 260 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: they crossed state lines because crossing state lines, particularly going 261 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: into states with Democrat administrations, it is possible that if 262 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: Texas DPS troopers showed up there, that those states could 263 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: try to prosecute the officers for kidnapping. That was a 264 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: possibility if the governor or the local des decided to 265 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: be belligerent, you could get into uncharted legal territory. 266 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: And so the safe. 267 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: Fanti is that why, by the way, Democrats have all 268 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: picked these liberal cities like Illinois, where the governor says 269 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: we're going to back you, We've got you come here, 270 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: you'll be safe. 271 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: We won't let them arrest you. 272 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 5: Right. 273 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: It is more complicated to do it in a liberal 274 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: jurisdiction if you have someone who is partisan and politically motivated. 275 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: What is unambiguously clear is that when the Texas Democrats 276 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: are back in Texas, you can arrest them and you 277 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: can forcibly produce their bodies on the floor to get 278 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: a quorum. So this will end, they will lose, and 279 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: the Texas Legislature will pass this redistrict. 280 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: By the way, if you are arrested and taking to 281 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: the four the way that you were described, I think 282 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people just want to know this around 283 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: the country. You can be there like not wanting to 284 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: be there. Right, they can drag your butt literally into 285 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: the chamber and you're counted there as a human being 286 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: that's a member of the legislature. And that's how you 287 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: get to a quorum. It's not forcing you to vote, right, 288 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: it's just that your present. 289 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Correct And it can be literally with handcuffs and leg irons. 290 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: I mean it now. 291 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: It's not being arrested for a crime. You're not going 292 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: to jail. It is the authority to physically force your 293 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: presence in the room because the reason they're fleeing is 294 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,479 Speaker 2: is the requirement that there be a quorum. The legislature 295 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: cannot do business if they're not sufficient members there for 296 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: a quorum. And that's why both the United States Constitution 297 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: and the Texas Constitution give the authority to physically compel presence, 298 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: because no individual member has a right to prevent the 299 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: body from being able to legislate from being able to 300 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: do it. Its fundamental constitutional responsibility. 301 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: So they're back now, and this has actually brought up, 302 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: I think a bigger issue and I want to take 303 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: the time. I actually think this may be one of 304 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: the biggest backfires in political modern history, in my opinion 305 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: on an issue of jerryman A lot of people I 306 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: don't think understood just how much abuse of power with 307 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: Democrats in charge in different states with jerrymandering, and how 308 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: many Conservatives were so underrepresented in Congress. A great example 309 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: of that is California. There are several other states that 310 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: have like zero representation of Conservatives of Republican members of 311 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: Congress because the way they've drawn the district lines to 312 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: make sure that it's almost all Democrats all the time. 313 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: And a lot of people did not know how much 314 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: abuse there was, how much jerry mannering was happening all 315 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: over the country in Democratic states until the big Texas 316 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,239 Speaker 1: issue happened. I think this could be a backfire for Democrats. 317 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: Look, just about every big Democrat state has gerrymandered the 318 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: hell out of their map and is frustrating the will 319 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: of their voters in their states. So let me give 320 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: you some specific examples. California, biggest Democrats state in the country. 321 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, or fifty eight percent of Californians 322 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 2: voted Democrat. Thirty eight percent voted Republicans. So fifty eight 323 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: percent Democrat. They have a total of fifty two congressional seats. 324 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: Of those fifty two, forty three of them are Democrat, 325 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: nine are Republican. What does that mean. It means the 326 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: Democrats win fifty eight percent of the vote in California 327 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: and they get wait for it, eighty three percent of 328 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: the congressional delegation. 329 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: That's what they Democrat there. 330 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: So the thirty eight percent of Californians that vote Republican 331 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: get a total of seventeen percent of the congressional delegation. 332 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: They're basically shut out. How about New York New York. 333 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: Fifty six percent of New Yorkers vote Democrat, forty three 334 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: percent vote Republican. There are twenty six congressional seats in 335 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: New York. Nineteen of them are Democrats, seven are Republican. 336 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 2: What does that mean. It means Democrats get fifty six 337 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 2: percent of the vote statewide in New York. Can they 338 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: get wait for it, seventy three percent of the statewide 339 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: congressional delegation. How about Illinois? All right, Illinois is really 340 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: egregious Illinois. Fifty four percent of people in Illinois vote Democrat. 341 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: It's not that huge margin. Forty four percent, forty three, 342 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: forty three percent vote Republican. There are seventeen congressional seats 343 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: from Illinois, fourteen of them are Democrat, only three are Republicans. 344 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: So here are the numbers. Democrats in Illinois get fifty 345 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: four percent of the vote and they get eighty two 346 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: percent of the congressional delegation. 347 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: And so the governor, I'm sure, was like, come on down, Texas, 348 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: we'll keep you safe. 349 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: Here. 350 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: We're experts in this, we know exactly what we're doing 351 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: with this. 352 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: And by the way, some of the smaller Democrat states 353 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 2: are even more egregious. So, for example, Connecticut, Trump won 354 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: forty two percent of Connecticut. You know how many Republican 355 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: House members there are in Connecticut. 356 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to guess zero to one zero there there 357 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: you go. 358 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: Democrats have one hundred percent. New Mexico. Trump won forty 359 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: six percent in New Mexico. You know how many Republicans 360 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: are elected in New Mexico to Congress? 361 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: Is it zero? Again? 362 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: Zero? Wow? Three Democrats? Zero Republicans. 363 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: But by the way, is that not the actual definition 364 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: of Jerry mannering when you have forty seven percent or 365 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: forty three percent going for a party and they get 366 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: zero representation in Congress? 367 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 3: Yep? 368 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: Maryland, Maryland, Trump won thirty four percent of the vote 369 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: in the state. And you know how many Republicans they 370 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: have in their delegation. 371 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 4: One one is the only one. 372 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: There we go. 373 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: And by the way, you know what their Democrat governor. 374 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: Is saying, what Texas is terrible. 375 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: If Texas does this, we'll get rid of the only 376 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: Republican we elect, will take it to zero. We want 377 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: it to be one hundred percent. New Jersey, New Jersey, 378 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: Trump won six percent of New Jersey, their twelve congressional 379 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: seats Republicans have three of them. 380 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: Incredible Oregon. 381 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: Trump won forty one percent of the vote in Oregon. 382 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: Republicans have one out of the six seats. And here's 383 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: the one I love. Massachusetts. Yeah, the People's Republican Massachusetts. 384 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: Trump won thirty six percent of Massachusetts in twenty twenty four. 385 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: They're nine congressional seats out of Massachusetts. How many Republicans 386 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: do you think they elect. I'm gonna go with zero 387 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: again zero goose egg. Understand that Massachusetts so agregious. They say, 388 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: the thirty six percent of you Republicans in the state, 389 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 2: you get nothing. Yeah, that is their answer, nothing whatsoever. 390 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: And to give you a sense of just how ridiculous 391 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: the Democrat politicians are, the Governor Mara Healey, a Democrat, 392 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: threatened to redistrict in Massachusetts in retaliation for Texas. So 393 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: right now Massachusetts elects nine Democrats and zero Republicans. After 394 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: she redistricts, I guess they'll still elect nine Democrats and 395 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: zero Republicans. They've literally maxed out their jerrymandering, and yet 396 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: that they're still engaged in theater. 397 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this question. 398 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: You hear these numbers, this is where I think Democrats 399 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: screwed up nationwide when they were coming to the aid 400 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: of the Democrats from Washington, I mean from Texas. They're like, 401 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, we're going to stand by you and will 402 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry manner even more if they take away seats 403 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: from you in Texas. YadA, YadA, YadA. Now people see this, 404 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about it. Everyone else to put a gold 405 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: talking about it. There's a lot of Republicans are. 406 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 3: Gonna be angry. 407 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: How do you fight back if you're in a state 408 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: where I don't know, thirty forty percent right of the 409 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: more than forty percent some of these states are voting 410 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: Republican and they're getting zero representation in Congress. What do 411 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: you do now? Is there a legal way to say 412 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: this is jerrymandery? 413 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: Well, look, they are being shown to be complete hypocrites, 414 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: and I want you, I want you now to listen 415 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 2: to this clip from NBC where the governor of Illinois, 416 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: Governor Pritzker, is called out on his uto hypocrisy. Give 417 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: a listen. 418 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 6: Every major group that grades the fairness of congressional maps 419 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 6: gives your state an f Common Cause and nonpartisan government 420 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 6: watchdog even says your map and I'm going to quote, 421 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 6: represents a nearly perfect model for everything that can go 422 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 6: wrong with redistricting. And I guess the question is, you 423 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 6: talk about preserving democracy, how do you preserve democracy if 424 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 6: you're using the same tactics that you've criticized Texas Republicans for. 425 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 7: But, as I say, what they're talking about is a distraction. 426 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 7: The reality is that the violation of people's voting rights 427 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 7: is what Texas is attempting to do. That's what's wrong 428 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 7: with their efforts right now. And the fact that the 429 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 7: President of the United States knows it and nevertheless is 430 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 7: asking them to do it, that is what's wrong with 431 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 7: what we're seeing right now. 432 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: Democracy is at stake. 433 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: I love it. 434 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: They always go back to democracy is at stake center, Like. 435 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: Don't sit the question, man, how do you know that 436 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: a Democrat is lying? 437 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: They start talking about democracy at. 438 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: Stake, his lips are moving. Yeah, it's true, it's true. 439 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: It is utterly brazen. So let's go back to the numbers, 440 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: because the numbers matter. So Illinois, fifty four percent of 441 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: people in Illinois vote Democrat, and yet their map right 442 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: now elects eighty two percent of the congressional delegation is Democrat. 443 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: Now Texas Texas. 444 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 2: Right now today Texas, fifty six percent of the state 445 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four voted Republican. Our map, we have 446 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: thirty eight seats in it, twenty four Republicans, fourteen Democrats. 447 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: That means that right now in Texas, fifty four percent 448 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: of the Republicans elect sixty three percent of the congressional delegation. 449 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: So it's slightly more than the statewide percentage, but not 450 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: nearly as egregious as the other states. Now, what Texas 451 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: is doing is redrawing the districts so that five new 452 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: Republicans are likely to be elected. So instead of breaking 453 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: down twenty four to fourteen, it is likely to break. 454 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 4: Down twenty nine to nine. 455 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: That means that we would go from sixty three percent 456 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: of the congressional delegation being Republican, we would go from 457 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: that to seventy six percent. Now, seventy six percent is 458 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: still lower than California, which is eighty three percent. 459 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 4: It is lower. 460 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: Than Illinois, which is eighty two percent, and it's obviously 461 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: lower than Massachusetts, which is one hundred percent. And the irony, 462 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: the loudest voices that are denouncing what Texas is doing. 463 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: Are the governors of California, Illinois, and Massachusetts, three Democrat 464 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: hipocrats that are all saying, you guys are drawing your 465 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: maps not nearly as bad as we've drawn it, but 466 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: how dare you get even close? 467 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: And by the way, don't forget the New York governor 468 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: Hochel got in on this as well. She was called 469 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: out for it on Fox News Channel. Listen to this 470 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: summrised it. 471 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 5: They said it was only three years ago that New 472 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 5: York's Democratic legislature drew up a map so brazenly contemptuous 473 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 5: of basic rules the governor district's contiguousness, that the state's 474 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 5: Democrat dominated Court of Appeals threw it out. The New 475 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: York Times at the time called those maps comically contorted. 476 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: That's their quote. So your state's highest court at the time, 477 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 5: all the judges appointed by democratic governors, they threw the 478 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 5: maps out. So fair to say Democrats have done what 479 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 5: they're now accusing Republicans of doing. 480 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: No, we followed the rules. We do it every ten years. 481 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 5: We based on that you didn't follow the rules. Well, 482 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: we did follow the rules, So the court was wrong, 483 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 5: but we followed the rules. 484 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: We follow the rooves you didn't the court said you did. No, no, 485 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: we follow There was no no no, The court said 486 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: you didn't follow the rules. That's how bad they were 487 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: in New York on that, Senator. 488 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: And understand, in New York, Democrats get fifty fifty six 489 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 2: percent of the vote and they get seventy three percent 490 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: of the congressional district. And but by the way, the 491 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: way they do that in New York is is they 492 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: break up Long Island, they break up Republican parts and 493 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: try to try to elect Democrats that they are. The 494 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 2: way they do it in California is they break up 495 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: southern California, they break up Orange County, and they. 496 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 4: Try to break up Republican votes. 497 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: The way they do it in Chicago is they break 498 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: up the more conservative votes that are outside of Chicago. 499 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: All of that, that's the strategy the Democrats do. And 500 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: and listen, the reason Texas is acting to do this 501 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: is because it matters number one nationally, if we have 502 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 2: a Republican majority in the House. 503 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 4: We have a very slim majority right now. 504 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: Electing five new Republicans will make a difference, will significantly 505 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: increase the chances of keeping a Republican majority in the 506 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth election. But it also reflects the values 507 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: of the voters of Texas. 508 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: Texas is a red state. 509 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: Texans want low taxes, we want low regulation, we want 510 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: a secure border. We support law enforcement, we support keeping 511 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: our families safe. We support the Constitution. We want free 512 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 2: speech and religious liberty in the Second Amendment, Texans believe 513 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: in fundamental liberty, fundamental values. And today's left wing, lunatic 514 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: Democrat Party is directly contrary to the values of the 515 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: people of Texas. And so what the legislature is doing 516 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: is drawing a map that will elect a congressional delegation 517 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: that reflects the values of the voters. That is not 518 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: only not contrary to democracy, that is the essence of democracy, 519 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: which is allowing the voters to actually elect representatives who 520 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: share their values. And what the Democrats are mad about 521 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: is that this map will allow the voters of Texas 522 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: to elect representatives who share their values. In their view, 523 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: any time you hear a Democrat use the words assault 524 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: on democracy, what they really mean is electing Republicans. It's 525 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: just about power. It's why these same hypocrites did everything 526 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: they could to remove Donald Trump from the ballot. Ye 527 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: because nothing says defending democracy like taking your opponent off 528 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: the ballot and stopping the pesky voters from voting for him. 529 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: They don't believe in democracy. They believe in power, raw power. 530 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: So they're perfectly comfortable with Massachusetts having one hundred percent 531 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: of its DEWN delegation being Democrats, but they're furious if 532 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: a republican state actually tries to have its delegation reflect 533 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: the views of its voters. 534 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 4: That is the beauty of democracy. 535 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: And if you think I'm being too harsh, if you 536 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: think I'm being to too harsh and too judgmental of 537 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: the Democrats, I want you to listen to my erstwhile opponent, 538 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: Beto O'Rourke. Now, Beto, you recall ran against me in 539 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen for the Senate. He became a cause celeb 540 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: all of the Democrats, all of the media, their hearts 541 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: went pitter pat, and he was a phenom. 542 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: And he came within a few points of beating to 543 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: be lost. 544 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: And then he ran for president as a Democrat and 545 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: he lost, And they ran for governor against Greg ABBOTTNY lost. 546 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: So at this point he's zero for three and he's 547 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: kind of pissed off about it, and so when he's 548 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: pissed off about it, he's really honest and candid. 549 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: Give a listen to what Beto had to say. 550 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 8: They're not going to let him stop us. 551 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: Are you with me on that handle. 552 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 8: It also means, as Mark was saying earlier, we don't 553 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 8: await the punch thrown by these would be fascist to land. 554 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 8: We punch first, and we punch harder. We want California 555 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 8: and New Jersey and Illinois and Maryland and every other 556 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 8: state where the Democrats hold the governor's mansion, the Assembly, 557 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 8: and the state Senate to redraw their congressional districts now, 558 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 8: not wait for Texas to move first to maximize Democratic 559 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 8: Party advantage. Listen, you may say to yourself, well, those 560 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 8: aren't the rules. There are no refs in this game 561 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 8: for the rules. We are gonna win whatever it takes. 562 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 8: We're gonna take this to them in every way that 563 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 8: we can. 564 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: Now, you got a lot better there, family values guy, right, 565 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: That's why I say he's such a just dynamic candidate. 566 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: But look, he is honest. This is today's Democrat party. 567 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: It is about power. Nothing else matters. Democracy doesn't matter, 568 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: or the will of the voters, doesn't matter. It is 569 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: they're imposing their radical left wing values. And the reason 570 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: they have to be so obsessed with power is their 571 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: ideas are unpopular. If you put a referendum in front 572 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: of the American people, you want open borders, overwhelming majority 573 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: of Americans say no, No, we don't. You put a 574 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: referendument in front of the American people. Hey do you 575 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: want to release murderers and rapists and child molesters? American 576 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: people say no. Hey do you want to confiscate everyone's guns? 577 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: The American people say no. Hey do you want boys 578 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: competing in girls' sports? The American people say no. And so, 579 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: if you're a party whose entire platform is wildly unpopular, 580 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: is on the twenty side of eighty twenty issue after 581 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: eighty twenty issue, after eighty twenty issue, the only way 582 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: you can implement your crazy ideology is through brute force 583 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: and power. And Beto, I'll commend him for being honest. 584 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: He's just interested, ironically, in being a fascist, in being 585 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: a ttalitarian the language he uses. He doesn't want the 586 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: voters to have a say. He wants to force his 587 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: radical policies on them. That's what the Democrats are revealing 588 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: to the whole country. 589 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: Just put in perspective, Democratic favorability is the lowest in 590 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: history of CNN polling. 591 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: What is your view of the Democratic Party? 592 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: Only twenty eight percent of Americans say that they have 593 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: a favorable opinion the Democratic part now fifty four percent 594 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: unfavorable of the Democratic Party. Only sixteen percent of Americans 595 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: have no opinion. That is the lowest in history of 596 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 1: CNN polling that came out today. 597 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: To put it in perspective, the Democrats are polling six 598 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: points above gonorrhea and nine points above ebola. So that's 599 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: where their radical policies have taken them. And by the way, 600 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: for the fact checkers, I made those numbers up. I 601 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: don't actually know where either of those diseases poll. 602 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: I like it, don't forget. We do this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 603 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: Hit that subscribe or auto download button. 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