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Speaker 1: It's another episode of splash It. It's your friends, f

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Speaker 1: Pe Santangelo and Susan Slusser. Susan, it's Thanksgiving week. Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you again. Thanks for coming on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure. Always willing to hop on and talk Giants

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Speaker 2: baseball with UFP as.

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Speaker 3: You know that's great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do they have Thanksgiving in London where you're at.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ridiculous My sol life right now sounds ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I come back for the winter meetings and then all

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Speaker 2: this nonsense is over. I'm going to Paris for Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: because I've got American friends there. Well, actually she's French,

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Speaker 2: so the best of both worlds. Hang with some Americans

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Speaker 2: and then get a French meal for Thanksgiving and wine.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so I'm gonna have turkey. You're going to have snails.

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Speaker 1: That sounds amazing.

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Speaker 3: for today, we're gonna talk.

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Speaker 1: About Buster Posey and what he said about meat on

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Speaker 1: the bone with current position players. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: some outfield defense, Rafael Devers and some other things. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to what you're thankful for maybe this week as

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Speaker 1: a Giants fan, but we'll start off with like Buster

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Speaker 1: Posey was talking about the current roster and he said,

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Speaker 1: with some certain players, there's still some meat on the bone.

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Speaker 3: And we kind of want to break down.

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Speaker 1: What meat on the bone means with a few players

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Speaker 1: Jung Hu, Lee, Elliott Romos, Patrick Bailey in you know,

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Speaker 1: the seasons they had and where they're at in their

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Speaker 1: career and maybe what those guys can do internally the

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Speaker 1: players that Giants already have on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Because we've talked about free agents, we've talked about who

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Speaker 1: To talk about the current roster right now. So maybe

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Speaker 1: touch on some players Susan that I mentioned. And what

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Speaker 1: does meat on the bone mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean as a former player, I think

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Speaker 2: bone player? This is like the more ceiling is that

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Speaker 2: kind of how you take it a little more ceiling there?

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Speaker 2: Because it tends to be guys when Buster Posey says

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Speaker 2: Elliott Ramos, Jung Hu Lee, who obviously has a very

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Speaker 2: that actual phrase to me, meet on the bone?

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Speaker 1: Well, that they can improve in certain areas, all of them,

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Speaker 3: Jung Hu Lee. The outfield play in center field was

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Speaker 1: You know, he goes and gets the ball, but would

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Speaker 1: It's probably the position I played most in the big leagues.

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Speaker 1: You're the captain out there and you have to take charge.

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Speaker 3: But maybe he's a true leadoff hitter and he's a guy.

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Speaker 1: I think that could that's the meat on the bone

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Speaker 3: He would just get down there and just boom and.

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Speaker 1: And I think if Jung who added that to his game,

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Speaker 2: He's making a lot of money. This was not one

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Speaker 2: For me, the biggest issue is the defense. He was

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Speaker 2: that's especially in that ballpark. That's just that. That's not okay.

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Speaker 2: His range is not good. The Giants range in the

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Speaker 2: He now has And this is what Buster keeps saying.

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Speaker 2: Last year really was his first big league season. He's

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Speaker 2: They need him to be that high contact guy like

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Speaker 2: He didn't come in and set the world on fire

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Speaker 2: they need to improve his speed. I think if those

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Speaker 2: that outfield in general, we've touched on it a few

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Speaker 2: times with when we talk about you know what free

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Speaker 2: But the two guys that are coming back are not

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Speaker 2: the focus wasn't there. You're a former outfielders, was that

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Speaker 1: It gets back to confidence in a game where we

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Speaker 1: have all these analytics and data for everything. Elliot Romos

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Speaker 1: he would say, I'm just not feeling it out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm overthinking it. I'm paraphrasing. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: it's a quotes were, but but but defense is an

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Speaker 1: attitude and it takes a lot of work, and I

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Speaker 1: think Elliott, you know, was definitely working at it. But

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Speaker 1: the best way as an outfielder to get better is

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Speaker 1: to take balls live off the bat like you got

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Speaker 1: you gotta put the hay in the barn, and you

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Speaker 1: not fungos. It's not shooting the ball in the machine.

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Speaker 1: It's not a coach hitting them to you. It's during

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Speaker 1: the sound off the bat. You get used to how

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Speaker 1: the Oracle Park changes every day you go on the road,

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Speaker 1: it changes every day. There's different corners in left field

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Speaker 1: These are all things you got to practice every single day,

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Speaker 2: If you've got thirty homer pop like Elliott does, if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think just having a year under his

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Speaker 2: But one thing, and I know we've talked about this

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Speaker 1: Well, I've talked to JT Still a lot about it,

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Speaker 1: I had two different bats, I had two different stances.

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Speaker 1: They just even the workload alone on a daily basis

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about Raffie Devers.

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Speaker 1: Let's uh change gears a little bit and talk about

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Speaker 1: Raffie Devers and a full year with the Giants said

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Speaker 1: two fifty two to thirty five home runs, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and nine driven in Last year combined, uh as a Giant,

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Speaker 1: he hit two thirty six with twenty home runs, drove

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Speaker 1: in fifty one, had an eight oh seven ops.

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Speaker 3: Those are the numbers.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about Raffie Devers in a full season

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Speaker 1: as a San Francisco Giant next year. My my biggest

472
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Speaker 1: question isn't like does he play first base? Does he

473
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Speaker 1: put up the numbers? It's like, how is he What's

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Speaker 1: the relationship going to be between the manager and a

475
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Speaker 1: guy like Raffi Devers? And I think Raffie gets paid

476
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Speaker 1: in such a bad light, like nationally about he's this,

477
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Speaker 1: he's that. I even talked to a friend who's in

478
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: baseball on the phone the other day and he was

479
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Speaker 1: just like, well, I'm like, no, no, no, this guy's fun

480
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: to be around. He's a baseball gym rat, He's a

481
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 1: baseball He drinks and sleeps baseball like he lives it

482
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Speaker 1: every single day.

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Speaker 3: And he loves to hit. He's a professional hitter.

484
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Speaker 1: But like you have a college coach with no major

485
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Speaker 1: league experience coaching this guy with a huge contract that

486
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Speaker 1: I guess. There's been some things that have happened in Boston.

487
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Speaker 1: Not I guess, but we know what's that relationship going

488
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Speaker 1: to be? Like how does Tony Vaytello navigate Raffi Devers?

489
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Speaker 1: And with the language barrier? Tony's the Dominican and he's

490
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Speaker 1: trying to learn some Spanish and that's super admirable and

491
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Speaker 1: very valuable as a manager in today's game, But like,

492
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Speaker 1: how's that going to go?

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Speaker 3: Susan?

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Speaker 2: Well, as you know ed, Devers is basically fluent in English.

495
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Speaker 2: I think most people have seen some of his postgame

496
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Speaker 2: press conferences, which always kind of baby laugh because typically

497
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Speaker 2: with a Spanish speaking player, we'll ask the question of

498
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Speaker 2: the one erwinne Garos will then translate for the player,

499
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Speaker 2: listen to his answer translate back. With Devers, we asked

500
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Speaker 2: a question and he immediately starts answering in Spanish. He

501
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: wants to get the words right, which I appreciate. I

502
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: think any reporter wants to get exactly what somebody is

503
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: trying to get across perfectly, So I like the way

504
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: he does it. But there's absolutely no doubt you can

505
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Speaker 2: hit chat with him. Like his English is excellent. So

506
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to be a problem. But

507
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: you know, he has not none of them have played

508
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Speaker 2: for somebody like Tony Vitello. He's somebody who's come in

509
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: relatively new and very high profile. I mean, this is

510
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 2: the biggest name on the roster, and we don't really know.

511
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Speaker 2: You know, we've heard from guys like Logan Webb, who

512
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Speaker 2: we talked to here, and a few other guys on

513
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Speaker 2: the team have weighed in on their thoughts on Vytello,

514
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Speaker 2: but we don't yet know what Devers is thinking. And

515
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Speaker 2: of course I think everyone is going to say the

516
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Speaker 2: right things. But he has not had has not had

517
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Speaker 2: Spanish speaking players, He has not dealt with, you know,

518
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: a superstar major league player before. He sounds like and

519
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: again I still haven't talked to him or met him.

520
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm starting to get really sad about that, I know,

521
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: but I he he sounds like such a people person, right.

522
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Speaker 2: I don't think that this is really going to be

523
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Speaker 2: an issue at any point. And I do think that

524
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Speaker 2: once you get through spring training, everybody knows everybody every

525
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 2: he's just going to be like this guy, you know,

526
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Speaker 2: he's putting my name in the lineup, or he's putting

527
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Speaker 2: me here or there, and I know who he is,

528
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Speaker 2: and you know he's calling the shots, and let's see

529
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Speaker 2: how it goes. I think that goes away. Within any

530
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: trepidation anybody has on the team, I think that goes away.

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Speaker 2: Spring training is so long, that's this is one of

532
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Speaker 2: the things that's for is getting to know teammates, getting

533
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Speaker 2: to know other coaches, new coaches, everybody, And I think

534
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Speaker 2: that's one of the things obviously Devers didn't have last year.

535
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: This spring, for many reasons, is huge for him, but

536
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Speaker 2: among them getting to know not just by Tello, but

537
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Speaker 2: the whole rest of the staff and Jays Tindler speaks Spanish,

538
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Speaker 2: so I think he is going to be a real key.

539
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: He's been a manager in the big leagues. I think

540
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Speaker 2: he's going to be somebody who maybe even could sort

541
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Speaker 2: of be the guy for Rafael Devers. But I still

542
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Speaker 2: think I think I gave and some people push back

543
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Speaker 2: on this. Some fans didnent love this. I gave Buster,

544
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Speaker 2: I think an a plus for his work last year,

545
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Speaker 2: and this is I'm kissing Buster's butt or anything. I'm

546
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Speaker 2: happy to say if a front off isn't doing their job,

547
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Speaker 2: or anybody isn't doing their job. But he caught Rafael

548
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Speaker 2: Devers out of nowhere, you know, well like a month

549
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: plus before the deadline. That's outrageous. This guy is such

550
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Speaker 2: a talent, such a talent and the kind of guy

551
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Speaker 2: that the Giants have shown time and time again they

552
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: cannot sign on the open market. That's huge. He went

553
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Speaker 2: and out out and got that guy. So, I you know,

554
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to overstate this, but Raphael Devers is

555
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: really the key for everything for the Giants. That they

556
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: are a team that had a subpar offense last year.

557
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 2: They're going to have him for the whole year and

558
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: he will be comfortable after a full spring training. So

559
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: that's We're gonna be talking a lot about him, but

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00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: not too I mean I put too much on him.

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Speaker 2: He played in Boston, coming to San Francisco, that's no

562
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Speaker 2: big thing.

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00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, all you beat writers are soft compared to the

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00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: Boston I'm going to name drop right now. I told

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Speaker 1: Tony about our podcast and he said he wants to

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Speaker 1: come on. So he's been super busy, but we are

567
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Speaker 1: getting I said, I'm doing a.

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Speaker 3: Podcast with Susan Seluster. Would you call on anytime?

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm the biggest Tony Vaytello fan right now.

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Speaker 3: I just think he's he's gonna he's gonna have his

571
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Speaker 3: his hiccups. It's going to be a learning curve.

572
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: But he's so smart, he's and he's gonna wear it

573
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: if he makes mistakes.

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Speaker 3: But I think, I think this is a great hire.

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Speaker 1: Everybody Susan and spring Training's You're best friend and the

576
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: nicest guy ever.

577
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: You've been there, like, how how are you?

578
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: How are you in July when you're over your last

579
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: twenty How are you when you've lost your last five

580
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: starts and your era's over four? How are you as

581
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: a manager or a coach when your team has lost

582
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Speaker 1: ten in a row. Everyone's gonna lose seven to ten

583
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: in a row during the season. It's just part of

584
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games. And I think for

585
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Speaker 1: Tony in the relationship and the reason we're talking about this.

586
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: I was at my friend's bar the other night shocking news,

587
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: and a guy came up to me, a Giants fan.

588
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: He said, how is that all gonna work?

589
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: With Devers in Tony Vaytello, And I said, It's just

590
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: gonna work because I think when you have a superstar player,

591
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: you just let him do him you just like you said,

592
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: put his name in the lineup. I think the challenge

593
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: is going to come if Tony's going to implement this.

594
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: We play hard, we hustle, we put pressure on the defense,

595
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: and Raffi does one of those things where he jogs

596
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: to first, which in his defense.

597
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: I'll say this about Raffi Devers.

598
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: I've told everydy that guy posts every day he plays

599
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: banged up, he plays hurt in today's game. I don't

600
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: want to go too far with this. That just doesn't

601
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: happen very often. If guys get hurt, they're not sacrificing

602
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: their numbers. They're going to take care of it so

603
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: that they can help the team full nobody. Not too

604
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: many people play through injuries. Yeah, I had a grain.

605
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: Thing you know that he was still playing with. But

606
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: I think most of the year you know this FP

607
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure this isn't something people write about

608
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: or talk about necessarily in the broadcast all the time.

609
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: If you see, especially a big name guy, look like

610
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: look like he's jaking it to first, he's usually been

611
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: told by the training staff and it's been approved by

612
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: the manager. In the front office. If you if you're

613
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: hitting it at like a very soft, very easy ground ball,

614
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: take it easy, don't bust it. They've been told that,

615
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: And then you know, fans go, what's wrong with him?

616
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: He's got a bad attitude. That's almost never the case.

617
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: If you should see a shot of the dugout and

618
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: the manager looks ticked, the guy's jaking it. Otherwise it's

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Speaker 2: all good. That's that's pretty much. And Devers came in

620
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: with a pretty good reputation actually that most of the

621
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: people in Boston said, good, look.

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00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: What he did.

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Speaker 2: Immediately grabs the first of somebody else's glove and starts

624
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: playing working out at first base, not even a you know,

625
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: not even any pushback at all. So I mean, hey,

626
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: some of that maybe was to poke Boston, who knows,

627
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: I'll take it, but he and plus he look he

628
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: looked really good there. I think he's a guy who

629
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: with a little work, you're if you're an okay, if

630
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: not great third baseman, you can be a really good

631
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: first baseman with some work. And I think he could

632
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: be a really good first basement. So we'll resume the

633
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: what happens to Bryce Eldridge conversation at all later date.

634
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. I don't even want to.

635
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know about that right now. There was

636
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: a time when Devers was hitting for the Giants this

637
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: year that I felt like he's going to hit a

638
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: home round every time when he's locked in and he's

639
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: lined a line pop. It was pretty exciting to watch.

640
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: All Right, should we go to the second base catcher

641
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: thing or should we go to what Giants fans should.

642
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: Be thankful about? As Thanksgiving approaches, we mentioned a.

643
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: Little bit about ketcher. I think the only other kind

644
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: of position besides you know, the outfield has got some

645
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: questions and obviously you know what maybe what they potentially

646
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 2: could do at ketcher, But second base is that an

647
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: area fp where you think that they either need an

648
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: upgrade or need to do something or at least add

649
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: another option.

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Speaker 1: I love Casey Schmitt in his development this year. I

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Speaker 1: really love him as a baseball player. I think he

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Speaker 1: can be a dude, I really do. And he played

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Speaker 1: second base. I mean, when if you can play third,

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Speaker 1: you can play second. His arm plays at every different

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Speaker 1: angle at second base, going up the middle, he's got

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Speaker 1: the cannon to throw back to first to turn.

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Speaker 3: A double play flat footed.

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Speaker 1: I think the bat was hot and cold at times,

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Speaker 1: a little bit streaky, but like that's.

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Speaker 3: Every baseball player.

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Speaker 1: I'm really okay with him playing second, Like, and I

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Speaker 1: know there's other guys out there, but if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about pitching in defense, I don't think it gets better

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Speaker 1: than Casey Schmidt defensively at any position. I think shortstop

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Speaker 1: he played there a little bit. But the third base

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Speaker 1: you know, you didn't see, you saw. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: Chapman's Chapman, but Casey did a great job at third basemen.

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Speaker 1: Chapman was hurt this year. He did a great job

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Speaker 1: at second base. He's going to run into one, he

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Speaker 1: battles you. He's taking more walks.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know the average probably wasn't where he wanted it

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Speaker 1: to be, but I think I'm very okay with Casey

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Speaker 1: Schmidt being the Giant second baseman.

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Speaker 3: My son the other day f P.

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Speaker 1: Junior said, Dad, the Giants have to trade for Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 1: and Bryce Harper's a second baseman.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Bryce Harper's not playing the second base for

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Speaker 3: the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I go, oh, that's why you're not coming on my podcast, Okay,

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Speaker 1: because of things like that, but I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on second base.

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Speaker 2: I love Casey Schmidt, and he's also one of the

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Speaker 2: most pop is not quite quite the right word. People

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Speaker 2: in the clubhouse love Casey Schmidt. He's kind of fun

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Speaker 2: and goofy different, just like lovable guy. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think he is a real plus in kind of all areas.

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Speaker 2: And I just you know, hey, the Giants now have

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Speaker 2: a shortstop and three third basement is essentially what the

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Speaker 2: infield is, so I don't mind that on a defensive

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Speaker 2: standpoint whatsoever. So there is room to grow offensively. He

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Speaker 2: needs to be consistent. If he's not consistent, I think

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Speaker 2: that that is an area that they're going to have

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Speaker 2: to address. I don't necessarily think that they're going to

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Speaker 2: give up on Tyler Fitzgerald, although he's kind of aging

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Speaker 2: out of prospect territory pretty rapidly. They're turning him into

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Speaker 2: a utility player. But we saw some real flashes from him.

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Speaker 2: But Casey Schmid, I think has absolutely the first crack

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Speaker 2: and gets a pretty long leash, I think in my book.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just wanted to since we were talking

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Speaker 2: about the regulars, I think that was kind of necessary.

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Speaker 2: But you mentioned Giants fans should what they might be

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Speaker 2: thankful for. What I mean, besides some really good pitching,

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Speaker 2: Gold Glove caliber third baseman catcher. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, at the risk of losing some subscribers, I

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Speaker 1: think Giants fans are tough. I mean, they're like, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to find something to be thankful for if you're

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Speaker 1: a Giants fan because you're used to World championships. So

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Speaker 1: then because of ten, twelve and fourteen, you've created high

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Speaker 1: standards and high expectations, and I think everybody that works

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Speaker 1: on the corner third and King loves that. Like, that's

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Speaker 1: what you want your fan base, right, you want your

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Speaker 1: fan base to expect the championship. But that team down

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Speaker 1: south has kind of got the market corner as we speak.

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Speaker 1: So for me as a Giants fan and growing up

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Speaker 1: a Giants fan, I'm just I'm super thankful for the

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Speaker 1: direction the.

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Speaker 3: Organization is headed.

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Speaker 1: It's it was super frustrating for me when I came

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Speaker 1: back from the East Coast and kind of saw a

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Speaker 1: different brand in philosophy that just didn't feel like the

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Speaker 1: Giants base ball that I grew up with that I

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Speaker 1: watched in ten twelve and fourteen that you know, the hardcore,

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Speaker 1: lunch pale hard hat.

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Speaker 3: We're going to scrap and fight and clawe.

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Speaker 1: In balue with two strikes and pitch it and catch

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Speaker 1: it and have parades. And that's what we all got

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Speaker 1: used to. And then there was just math and line

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Speaker 1: changes and it was just it was strange.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing was strange.

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Speaker 1: So I always talk about Buster Posey and Zach Manascim

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Speaker 1: building a foundation and how that's not sexy. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a great foundational year for Buster, Like the

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Speaker 1: foundation has been laid. Now, we have world champions running

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Speaker 1: our organization. We have a baseball player, one of the

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Speaker 1: most iconic baseball players in the future Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: as our team president. We have a new manager that

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Speaker 1: we're all wondering about that we all like so far.

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Speaker 1: But what's going to happen with that, to me is

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Speaker 1: the best reality show in the Bay Area that's coming up.

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Speaker 1: And we're all fans and we're excited about that. So like,

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Speaker 1: for a Giants fan, and I'm not talking about as

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Speaker 1: a broadcaster or a former player, talking.

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Speaker 3: About as a Giants fan, I'm kind of just thankful

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Speaker 3: that it, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Hobby's back in the organization and it just it

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Speaker 1: just feels like baseball again, when it felt like a

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Speaker 1: lot of computers before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bouchie, I mean, I love that the Giants are

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Speaker 2: so good at bringing back their guys, but especially now,

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Speaker 2: I love all of this. Here's one thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: having spent so long on the other side of the Bay,

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Speaker 2: They've got resources. This is something that I think gets

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Speaker 2: taken for granted. And yeah, you could argue maybe they're

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Speaker 2: not even spending enough. Possibly look at it at the Dodgers.

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00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: The Dodgers have more, even more resources, that's insane. But

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Speaker 2: they've got good, solid resources, and they do seem to

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Speaker 2: have an ownership that listens to Buster Posey. If he

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Speaker 2: wants to add something, I think by and large they're

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Speaker 2: going to go out and get what he wants. So

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Speaker 2: I think that's something to you know, whatever your feelings

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Speaker 2: are on ownership or front offices or execs in general,

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Speaker 2: certainly they have the wherewithal to do some of these

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Speaker 2: things if they want to, and we can if they don't.

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Speaker 2: If there's some obvious things and they don't, then I

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Speaker 2: think you and I will have plenty to talk about

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Speaker 2: at a later date.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm coming to see you on Friday. I'm flying

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Speaker 1: across the Pond. I think it's a seventy four hour

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Speaker 1: flight from San Francisco to London, so I'm super excited

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get it first. Yeah, you're going to

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Speaker 3: take it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, JT is coming on Friday with me before I

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Speaker 1: get on the airplane to come see you. So happy Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: even though you guys don't celebrate it over there or

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00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: at the Norm McDonald line, remember that, or as turkeys

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Speaker 1: call it, murder Day. So happy Thanksgiving and I will

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Speaker 1: see you in a few days. A great job today,

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Speaker 1: And like I always say, on the way out, swing

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Speaker 1: hard in case you hit it.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you soon.

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Speaker 1: Susan