1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Yes, how you finish matters. Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: paulk Alvic joins me. Together we close the book on 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four regular season, and we're talking about 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: a win. And yeah, it means something to the coaches, 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: to the players, and to you the fans. Let's get 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: into it. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight forty and 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: it starts now. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: Budda Baker, What Heart? 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: What rent? 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: He's it again, so more hurry magic whow Here's Craigcrioler. 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: So this was just a little bit different on a 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: Monday morning. I don't know if you experienced this, Paul, 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: but for the first time I think ever, driving into 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: the Dignity Arizona Cardinals Training Center, there was a traffic jam. 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: There was several cars trying to exit, but there were 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: fans outside waiting for their favorite players to hopefully stop 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: and sign some autograph. So it was a it was 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: a little busy here on this Monday following the twenty 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: twenty four regular season. 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, the comings, the goings, right, and yeah, what exactly 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: is next? And fans trying to get their last look 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: at the Arizona Cardinals twenty twenty four as configured as 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: this season came to a close. And what are you saying, Craig. 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: You don't want to break down all the x's and 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: o's of the Week eighteen game. You don't want the 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: keys to the game, You don't want to get into 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: the play by play. I mean, what's going on here? 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: Oh we can do that. 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals with an emphatic, impressive win forty seven to twenty 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: four over the San Francisco forty nine ers to improve 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: their record at eight and nine. 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: But I just want to say this. 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Off the top, the finality of it all, and that 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: what's hit. That's what hits you either leaving the stadium 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: or coming into work Monday morning, because there is a 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: natural ramp up to the regular season, training camp, preseason 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: week one. When the season's over, it's over. You hit 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: a brick wall. All of that day to day schedule, 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: the grind, now all of a sudden, you literally have 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: to pivot, and that does take a little bit of 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: an adjustment. 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: Here's my analogy for the end of an NFL season. 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: It's what happened at Cosa, Calvis on New Year's Eve morning. 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: Our refrigerator died. Oh Paul, what really? It just all 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: of a sudden, the finality of it. Out of nowhere, 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, all your groceries done, the refrigerator dead, 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: everything expired or it ain't worth the risk? Is this good? 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: Eat or not? You try it? 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: No? 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: You try it? What do you think quick? You're hungry? 57 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: No, just come on here and eat out of the refrigerator. 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: Out of nowhere, your refrigerator dies. What do you do next? 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: Because it's over and there's nothing you can do to 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: try and recover those expired groceries. We had so much 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: stuff to throw out. I have to wait for the 62 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: next garbage collection period. I went beyond the weight limit 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: of the garbage can. That's how bad it is. And 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: that's my analogy. Because all of a sudden, you're going 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: and it's NonStop and it's endless, and then it does stop. 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: It's like a car crash. You can just hear the 67 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: breaks squealing and the tires skidding as everything comes to 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: a grinding hole. 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: I like that analogy, Paul, But as Larry Fitzgerald once said, 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: I believe it was to you and a question that 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: you asked. Champagne problems, Paul, Everyone's got problems. 72 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. I was at this one. I decided 73 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: this quick quick side side note. There's someone in the 74 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how I got invited to this party. 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: Was a friend of a friend of a friend, and 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: let's just say he's probably at this point considering his 77 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: stockholdings billionaire status. The first and only ever walk in 78 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: refrigerator I've ever experienced. Didn't even know those existed. Think 79 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: of a walking closet, Yeah, except a refrigerator. I've seen 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: a walk in freezer, but you're talking about refrigerator. Hey, Paul, 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: walk on in, grab whatever beer you want, and it 82 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: lined all the walls, and there was everything else. You 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: could catch up all the condiments whatever. I mean, walk 84 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: in refrigerator. That's what I think of when I think 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: of Larry Fitzgerald. 86 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking now, depending on who might listen to this, 87 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: you might be getting your own walk in refrigerator. 88 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: Oh no, the walk in refrigerators have to square footage 89 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: of my house. So no, it's not good. We're not 90 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: gonna be able to accommodate that. 91 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's just pivot here and give you the 92 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: big picture of twenty twenty four. Cardinals double their win 93 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: total from last season, go three and three in the 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: NFC West after no division win last season. Six wins 95 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium. They're most at home since twenty fifteen. 96 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: That is tangible proof. Again, as like what Jonathan Gannon said, 97 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: not only do you postgame on the Cardinals Locker Room show, 98 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: but meeting with reporters afterwards. Yeah, all well, and good. 99 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: Good to finish with a win. Yes, eight wins is good, 100 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: beats the alternative. But the goal was not reached, and 101 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: that is to play in the postseason. So that is 102 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: the next step for this organization if you believe in 103 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: that step by step process which we hear each and 104 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: every day, when you hear from the head coach, the 105 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: coach and staff and the players. And there was a 106 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: lot of excitement, a lot of happy faces in that 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: locker room as players were coming for exit for physicals 108 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: and cleaning out their locker. There was not a lot 109 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: of depression, except for the fact that you know that 110 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: those players in the locker room, those fifty three players 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: plus the practice squad, they'll never be together again in 112 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: that sense. 113 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: Of a roster doesn't matter. Even you can be Super 114 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: Bowl champion, and there will be turnover, there will be changed, 115 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: there will be blood. So it's gonna be different. There 116 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 3: were certain players when the clock hit triple zero, who 117 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: summons Cardinals' photographers, Hey take a quick picture of me, 118 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: arm around each other. A couple of teammates here and there, 119 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: different position rooms took photos together because they know lifelong friendships. 120 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: But it is far from a lifelong commitment, you know, 121 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: a team, especially especially where the Cardinals are. You're outside 122 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: the playoff picture looking in. You're gonna be in the 123 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 3: year three of what we have half joked is the 124 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: six Purge movie. So there will be turnover, There's no 125 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: doubt about it. And there's certain areas and we'll get 126 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: into it all off season where do the Cardinals need 127 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: to add and subtract and bolster and but in terms 128 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: of this season, I know you mentioned you know, double 129 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: the win total, six home wins. Those they're definitely big 130 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: steps forward. I mean the home win thing is bigger 131 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: than I think a lot of people realize based on 132 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. But we're I'll place in 133 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: the power pole of improvements from last year to this 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: year big picture, on the big red, I'll put the 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: division record ahead of both those. You had to get 136 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: a foothold, you got to establish a stronghold in the division. 137 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: You were a play away, a ricochet away from sweeping 138 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: the Rams. You did sweep the forty nine ers. I 139 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: get it, they were banged up beyond comprehension in Week eighteen. 140 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: That wasn't even a true representation of either team in 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: a lot of ways out on that field, based on 142 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: who was in the uniform. But you did beat them 143 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: on their field in week five, and they were healthy 144 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: for the most part, and you had a heck of 145 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: a second half, and you also played the Seahawks tight 146 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: in those games, but you were competitive. You went three 147 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: and three in the NFC West, And to me, that's 148 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: real tangible proof that, Okay, the next step was taken 149 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: based on a winless division record a year ago, and 150 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: now it is a matter of and here's the other 151 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: thing about it, Craig, is you know the Cardinals young coordinators, 152 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: I think learned what the division is all about. Nick 153 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: Rowlis stopping Kyen Williams. He did not wreck either game. 154 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: He wrecked both games a year ago. They had a 155 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: plan for Kien Williams. They really had a plan for 156 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: Sean McVeigh, who was dominant in a lot of ways 157 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: both games last year, Kyle Shannan. They know what to expect, 158 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: they know how to fit it Seattle Seahawks. Things didn't 159 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: go their way in certain ways. We can get into 160 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: that at another time, but in terms, I think the 161 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: same thing that happened with Mike McDonald and that staff 162 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: up there, they sort of learned the division on the fly. 163 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: And I'm fully confident with Nick Rolis, Drew Pets, and 164 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon that, okay, as they go into this offseason, 165 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: they know what they need for the division, and that's 166 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: where every season starts. 167 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: The other thing that we learned this season and we 168 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: saw it last season, and I do think it matters 169 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: because there is buy in from the players. And that's this, Paul. 170 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: The fact that regardless of what was on the line 171 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and there was nothing on the line, Cardinals 172 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: came to play. They competed they played all sixty minutes. 173 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Can't say that about the forty nine ers. Nick Bosa, 174 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: George Kittle sat the entire second half. They were healthy, 175 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: sat the entire second half. Cardinals had no players tap out. 176 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: If you were healthy, you were playing. And I do 177 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: think that matters because you look around the league. Bears 178 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: nothing to play for. Beat the Packers, congratulations, Chicago Panthers, 179 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: nothing to play for, beat the Falcons in overtime, Carolina 180 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: closing the season strong. They're feeling very confident about what 181 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: they have now in Carolina. And then you look at 182 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Giants, the Dolphins, the Titans, all losing 183 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: games on Sunday. A lot of players didn't want to 184 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: be on that football field on Sunday. And we heard 185 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: from one particular wide receiver out into Miami saying, he's 186 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: basically out the door, and that's Tyreek Hill. You don't 187 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: have that in that Cardinals locker room. And I think 188 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: it speaks to the players. Sorry, the people that are 189 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: bringing that are being brought into that locker room, and yes, 190 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: the player as well, that they believe in what is 191 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: being built here or has already been built in year one. 192 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: The fact that Kyler Murray wanted to go out in 193 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: a high note. Every single player that we talked to 194 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: leading into Sunday's game wanted to get a win to 195 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: going into the offseason just to feel good about not 196 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: only themselves but where this team is headed. Because there 197 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: are several players in that locker room that will be 198 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: back and that core has been established. Now you just 199 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: need to surround on both sides of the ball with 200 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: some extra extra motive, of that extra motivation, some extra talent, 201 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: if you will, to try to get to that next step, 202 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: which is the playoffs. 203 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that fourth quarter, I mean pads were popping. You know, 204 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: some of the fans had left, so it was quiet 205 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: at different times. Was a lopsided lead by the Cardinals, 206 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: And I mean the pads were still popping in the 207 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. So to your point, there's no doubt Cardinals 208 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: came to play. It's a non negotiable, one of a 209 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: handful of non negotiables A jag has. And what did 210 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: he say on his TV show to start Week eighteen 211 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: when we asked him for the proverbial, Oh, James Colchwart, 212 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: what's the key to the game? And he said, you know, 213 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: I don't say this all the time. I'm gonna give 214 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: you one key, and it wasn't the turnover battle. It 215 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: was we have to quote out hit the forty nine ers. 216 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: Every time you play a Kyle Shanahan team, they're physical 217 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: and Craig hits zoom out on building this roster. You 218 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: mentioned the people in the locker room, and when you 219 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: listen to Manti Oscibor and Jonathan Gannon and the vetting process, 220 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: they try and figure out do they want the person 221 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: in the locker room, do they want the person in 222 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: the building, And if they do, then they really start 223 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 3: doing a deep dive into the player, into the game film, 224 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: into the abilding and skill set. But that, to me 225 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: is the most significant change. You can't necessarily quantify it 226 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: or define it, but it is the sort of mentality 227 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: that they've brought in to this Cardinals locker room in 228 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: less than two years. And you've got to be all ball, 229 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: you have to be deadly serious about this game, this profession. 230 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: And then the other aspect I think that they believe 231 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: in firmly is it's a big man's game. When in doubt, 232 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: they're going to bring in big players because they want 233 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: to be a physical team that dominates the line of 234 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: scrimmage and sets a tone, and. 235 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: That's what Jag said to postgame. They controlled the line 236 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and I think that was the case on 237 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball on Sunday against the forty 238 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: nine ers. So when you look at the offseason, yeah, 239 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: upgrade the offensive line, adds some pieces along the defensive 240 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: line that front seven overall. But then you look at 241 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: what happened and the results from Sunday and a couple 242 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: of I think pivot points in the game. Then you 243 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: brought up on Cardinals overtime, and I do think it 244 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: matters when you see players fight literally and figuratively. 245 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: But to see. 246 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: Why that game mattered so much, because if it didn't, DARLINGE. 247 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: Thomas is not going after Juwan Jennings tussling back and forth, 248 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Bunting's not going back and forth with Jawan 249 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: Jennings ultimately getting ejected. It mattered to those players because 250 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: players play coaches coach, and I do think it kinda 251 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: believe what was it ether was either Trey McBride or 252 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: Garrett Williams post game with you, Paul say, yeah, it 253 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: did kind of wake us up a little bit and 254 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: light a fire under us to believe it was Garrett 255 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: to said, yeah, we yep, it kind of sparked something 256 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: in us and all of a sudden turn around and 257 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have forty seven points. 258 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. The fake punt that went for twenty two yards 259 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: by DJ Dallas, that was sort of the first um. Okay, 260 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: take out the jumper cables, right, give everyone a little spark, 261 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: a little jump, little jolt. But then when this skirmish 262 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: happened and the two fights out there, that's when it 263 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: got poisonal. Okay, that's where guys were like, all right, 264 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: here we go. We're playing for key keeps right now. 265 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: It's week eighteen. Nothing's on the line, but it is. 266 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: Let's go. And it was interesting. The Sewn Murphy Bunting 267 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: ejection on the next play did not surprise me based 268 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: on the tail end of the previous play, because if 269 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: you were watching number twenty three, he came over to 270 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: the aid of Starling Thomas like most of the defense did, 271 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: but he was still talking with Juwan Jennings as Jennings 272 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: went back to the huddle and he was going back 273 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: to his huddle, Sean Murphy Bunting and he was pointing 274 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: and from what I can tell, was yelling out, try 275 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: my side, come to my side. He's pointing to the 276 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 3: other side the Cardinals sideline, come to my side next time. 277 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: After the game, Juwan Jennings confirmed as much with the medium. 278 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: That is what Sean Murphy Bunting did say. And just 279 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: by chance a play call it did call for Juwan 280 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: Jennings to line up on Shawn Murphy Bunting's side and 281 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: in three two one it was like so on and 282 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: that's what happened. Now. The really unfortunate thing about it. 283 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: I don't know to what degree he was covered on 284 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: the TV side, but an official, the umpire was involved, 285 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: and there were multiple guys and they were tugging with 286 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: all their might trying to separate players. Good luck, I 287 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: mean good luck just being an average joe and trying 288 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: to separate NFL players when they're hell bound on going 289 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: after each other. And unfortunately the umpire got bent backwards 290 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: and got toppled and his leg got twisted and Craig 291 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: he had to be carted off. He had to be 292 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: helped off the field into the tunnel where he got 293 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: cart off for medical attention. And from what I could 294 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: tell he's gonna need left knee surgery because he was 295 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: grabbing it and he couldn't put any weight on it whatsoever. 296 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: It was umpire Alex Moore. Don't have an update on 297 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: his status, but that was something that because the play 298 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: went to the right side as you're looking at it 299 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: from the Cardinals sideline, so everything is going towards the 300 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: right in the end zone. Then all of a sudden, 301 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: players started shuffling to the left. You're like, what's going on? 302 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: And there was there was SMB and Juwan Jennings going 303 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: at it completely away from the action. Now the unfortunate 304 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: part is, yeah, Sean gets ejected. You're already down Max Mountain. 305 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: So props to Key Trail Clark because another one of 306 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: JG's favorite sayings is roles change and all of a sudden, 307 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: Key Trail goes from being active maybe just watching the game, 308 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now, all of a sudden, 309 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: he's on the football field for a lot more snaps 310 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: than he was probably planning and came up with a 311 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: huge interception almost to pick six, maybe the best interception 312 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: this season as far as off a tip, diving it, 313 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: cradling it, securing the catch and then presence of mind 314 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: to get up and start running to allow Hey, I'm 315 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: just going to finish the play. If you say I 316 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: was touched, okay, you had to tell me on review 317 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: that I was touched. So props to Key Trail Clark 318 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: for coming in at that time and really helping to 319 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: where there was no letdown defensively. 320 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: You know, honestly, if you asked me, all right, what position, 321 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: group or what room improved the most over the course 322 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: of the season, I don't see how you can answer 323 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: anything other than cornerback, Max Melton, Starling, Thomas Carrott Williams, 324 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 3: the way he's playing in that slot, Nickel corner. You know, 325 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: Sean Murphy Bunting, he's a veteran. That was his third interception. 326 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: Key Troll Clark, it's been tough. He's been on the 327 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: outside looking in. He's sort of like the Michael Carter 328 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: of the running back room. 329 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: You know. 330 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: I mean, he got a guy who had been a 331 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 3: starter to begin last season and there he is sort 332 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: of on the fringe of dressing or not on game day. 333 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: But whether it's because the head coach, that's his area 334 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 3: of expertise, right the cornerback room and he's particularly hard 335 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: on those guys in practice. And just talk to the corners. 336 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: They know it, They know that JG knows the position 337 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: and he's very demanding, but he's very supportive and he's 338 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: instructional as well. And so to me, no group has 339 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: made more progress because going into the year, correct, how 340 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: many times you know, gas bags like us talking back 341 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: in July and August. Geez, the cornerback room, what are 342 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: you gonna do? Right? And uh, I tell you, I 343 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: thought they played at a pretty dang high level for 344 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: not having a first round pick invested anywhere in that secondary. 345 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch the growth of those young players. 346 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: And we'll see if the cornerback is added again in 347 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: free agency. You've talked about maybe having a more physical, 348 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: a bigger body corner. 349 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, someone you can really match up physically, DK Metcalf, Pooka, Nakua, 350 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 3: you know those sort of guys. You know, those guys 351 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: in your division. I mean, Pooka is a problem. If 352 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: you want to know what's the difference between you blowing 353 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: out the Rams in week two and then falling in 354 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: a close game in week seventeen. Just look at the 355 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: fact that Pooka didn't play in the first game, and 356 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: he was dominant in the second game. 357 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: So the Corners, yes, played well. Seaan Murphy bunt in 358 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: an interception, ke tro Clark with an interception. Then you 359 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: have the fumble where rabbit caused the strip of Joshua Dobbs. 360 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Tompson comes up with the recovery. So plus three 361 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: in the takeaway. You know that's something that Jonathan Gennon 362 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: likes to see. Offensively, though, forty seven points not only 363 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: a season high, but I look back, the most points 364 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: scored by any team in Week eighteen. 365 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: So interesting. 366 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was say what you want about the opponent, 367 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: but the Cardinals came to play. Kyler Murray four touchdown passes, 368 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: his third career game of four touchdown passes. You had 369 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: Michael Cardrey mention him, get his first touchdown, Tony Jones 370 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: Junior his first touchdown, Marvin Harrison Junior with a touchdown 371 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: his eighth of the season, which ties him with Larry 372 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald and Akwin Bolden for the most by a rookie receiver. 373 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: So there was a lot to like offensively, again, a 374 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: good feeling going into the offseason. Oh no, oh, by 375 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: the way, Trey McBride continues to be Trey McBride. 376 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: All right, so here, okay, first question, you have the 377 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 3: box score there, I don't what was the pass to 378 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: run ratio in terms of the balance how many pass 379 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: attempts versus how many rushing attempts by the Cardinals. In 380 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: yesterday's game, Cardinals had eight more pass attempts. That's it, 381 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: thirty five to twenty seven. And of course they ran 382 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: the ball out at the very end with a big lead. 383 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: And I get it, But to me, it really was 384 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: a pass first offense for one of the only times 385 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: this year. And not only was the downfield passing attack there, 386 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: you know some of those chunk throws by the way, 387 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: for the second straight week. You did it against the 388 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: Rams and you did against the forty nine ers. I 389 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: get it. A game. There was no game you know 390 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 3: that was deciding anything, although for the Rams it was. 391 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: But to me, that's a good sign. That's a good 392 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: sign because you've been a top ten, top five rushing 393 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: offense all year long. You know what you have when 394 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: you have James Connor in there. The question is can 395 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: you make defenses pay? Can you still move the ball 396 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: via the air when they're on the shell coverage two 397 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: high safeties. You know, can you can you work underneath 398 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: and get various guys open. Obviously Greg Dortch, By the way, 399 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 3: Greg Dorsch did everything in Week eighteen except smile. He 400 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: never smiled. I mean that first touchdown, catch and run 401 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: twenty three yards, he's zigzag and he's weaving his way 402 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: and boomy, making dudes look stupid in space, because that's 403 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: what Greg Dortch does. You got Dorch and he comes 404 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: to the sideline and he's just seething and mean mugging everyone, 405 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: and Kyler Try, you know, came over and smiled and 406 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: tapped him up. Nothing. Kyler went down, you know, wrapped 407 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 3: up the offensive line, came back, tried him again. Come on, 408 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: come on, key, you know, come on in terms of 409 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: uh getting that, and he got nothing out of Greg Dortch. 410 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: I mean, he just was so I don't know what 411 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: that was all about, but let's just say nobody finished 412 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 3: with more of an edge to their game than Greg 413 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: Dortch out on that field. 414 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: Probably a long time coming, waiting until Week eighteen to 415 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: maybe be involved offensively, and only involved because Michael Wilson 416 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: was unavailable, and I get it. Every time Dorch is involved, 417 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: good things happen, but on a consistent basis over two 418 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: different coaching staffs Now, Paul, it hasn't been consistent weekend 419 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: it's weak out. It's always been when someone has been 420 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: unavailable that Dorsch sees his playtime and his production go up. 421 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: So it's confounding. How much of that is the offense 422 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: not going through Dorsch because he's not getting targets or 423 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: they're not his number, isn't in the game plan quite 424 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: a bit? Or is it more when you watch the 425 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 3: film in some of these earlier games, he's not open. 426 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: I honestly don't know, but it really does make you think, Okay, 427 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: how much meat was left on that bone of Greg 428 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: Dortch's game and his production in the Cardinals offense this year, 429 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: because man, does he keep a defense? Honest, if you 430 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: just give him a little bit of space, look out, 431 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: you could see where defenders really fear trying to corral 432 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: him out in the open field. 433 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: You talk about reps and why again I keep going 434 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: back to this, but why Sunday mattered so much? Because 435 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: reps matter, and game reps mean more than practice reps. 436 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: But you have to show it in practice first in 437 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: order to do it in the game. And that's why 438 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: when we talked all offseason about how much time Kyler 439 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: was spending with his playmakers. There's no defense though, And 440 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: maybe you're not running full speed game speed in July 441 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: and August and September going into the regular season, but 442 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: you had an opportunity on Sunday against competition game speed 443 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: and working on that downfield passing game that you hope 444 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: now you can take those final two games. And again 445 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: doesn't carry over, but at least all right, where do 446 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: you want the ball? Where do you like the ball? Okay, 447 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: maybe you need to be more physical to out muscle 448 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: a defender to get the ball. Go get that ball 449 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: at the highest point and come down with it. So again, 450 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: why those Why Not only Sunday mattered, but last week 451 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: two weeks ago against the Rams mattered as well. 452 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: And I know everyone's thinking, Marvin Harrison junior, talk about 453 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison junior. Okay, what did you guys see? Where 454 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: is this going? How do we feel about the number 455 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 3: four pick? Overall? I'll just say this much. His last 456 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: meeting with the media going into week eighteen, when asked 457 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: for his big NFL takeaway. His answer was just how 458 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 3: smart defenders are, and he cited that as probably the 459 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: biggest difference, in his words, the football IQ of defensive backs, 460 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: how they can recognize route concepts. These are guys who 461 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: have played three, five, ten years in the league. They 462 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 3: do this for a living. This is their profession, and 463 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 3: so they know what they're looking at. They are highly prepared, 464 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 3: and it is the small things, the details that make 465 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: so big a difference. The other thing, if you read 466 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: between the lines and what the coaches and other players 467 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: have said, it's the physicality of the game. They're going 468 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: to be physical with you, and guess what, you have 469 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 3: to be physical with them at some point during a route. 470 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: There's got to be a little bit of that get 471 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: off me right and you're in. That's in a lot 472 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: of ways how you get separation, and I thought Marvin 473 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: Harrison Junior has done a much better job of that 474 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: in the last two were three games to end this season. 475 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 3: If you listen to Kyler and what he said in 476 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 3: his Wednesday press conference going into the forty nine ers game, 477 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: also about that Rams game plan quote, we put him 478 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: in position to win. Marvin then said later I had 479 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: some different routes that I got to run against the Rams, 480 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: So I think they were found. They were either a 481 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: expanding his route tree because he's now capable of it 482 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: as a rookie, and or they've skeeened up some different 483 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: ways to get him the ball. I know Drew Petzen 484 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: talked about, you know, him winning one on ones against 485 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 3: the Rams, playing faster, you know, more violent, more aggressive, 486 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 3: especially at the top of his routes. And then run 487 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 3: after catch. That was the big thing for me going 488 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: into this season, Marvin Harrison Junior. How capable is he 489 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: run after the catch, like in traffic, physical running with 490 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: the ball. You saw him get so much separation in 491 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: Ohio State. Half the time he's already in the end 492 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: zone or he had a clear path to the end zone. 493 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: So these were all things where I definitely believe he improved. 494 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: And then just him attacking the ball in the twenty 495 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: four yard back shoulder, you know, finally, you know, in 496 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: the last month of the season, you saw evidence of 497 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: that paying off. But we talked about this, and I 498 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: know I'm going off here, but we talked about this 499 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: with a head coach on his TV show Coach, Can 500 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: You Practice Truly? Practice the chunk throw sideline back shoulder 501 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: because coming out of the by Jonathan Gannon said, if 502 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: there's one area he wanted to see the passing game improve, 503 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: it was outside the numbers. And Gannon shook his head 504 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: and he said, there is no feasible way in today's 505 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: NFL to practice that. You just can't take your top 506 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: corner in your top wide receiver. And here we go 507 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: game speed, game intensity, and try and practice that and 508 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 3: really be smart about it. So that is learning on 509 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: the job, learning only on game day. And I do 510 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: believe Marvin Harrison Junior made some serious strides in that 511 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: department the final month of the season. 512 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a little while, it doesn't click right away. 513 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: You have to learn how to be a pro, meaning 514 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: what it takes to get ready for Sunday and then 515 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: when Sunday arrives, what it takes to be successful on Sunday, 516 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: which leads up to Trey McBride. This is year three, 517 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: his first full season as a starter, and we have 518 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: seen him blossom this season to become an elite tight end. Now, 519 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: what Brock Bauers is doing in Las Vegas, they have 520 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: no one else, So I think let's see what he 521 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: does in year two. But the best tight end in 522 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: the league might just be Arizona Cardinals tight end Trey 523 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: McBride considering what he did this season as far as 524 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: the receptions, the receiving yards, and okay, only a couple 525 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: of touchdown receptions, but being that go to guy when 526 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray needs to make a play or extended drive, 527 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: he is looking at McBride's direction more times than not. 528 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: And the Cardinals, now have you've got the quarterback, You've 529 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: got the running back, you've got the tight end, and 530 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: you think, based off your analysis, Paul Marvin's becoming that 531 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: wide receiver. So again, things are setting up for year three, 532 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: at least offensively, and then you just maybe four to 533 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: five the offensive line. 534 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: I mean, look at what Trey McBride just did against 535 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: Fred Warner. I might not know much, but I know 536 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 3: this much. If Fred Warner is the best middle linebacker 537 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 3: in the game, the one thing he can't do is 538 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: cover Trey McBride. He just it was a mismatch to 539 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: begin a game at home last year. Was that Week 540 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 3: fifteen last year? And then they put Drake Greenlaw early 541 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: in the game on Trey McBride because McBride was torching 542 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: Fred Warner. Well, they didn't have that option this time around. 543 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: Green Law wasn't available because of injury. But he has 544 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: made some really good defenders look really stupid. Trey McBride, 545 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: the athleticism, the catch radius. I mean you heard him 546 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: in the postgame interview and I as said, when that 547 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: ball's in the air, what's your confidence level you're gonna 548 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: make the catch? I mean he like sat up straight 549 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: in that chair because he was hurting, he was dragging. 550 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: I mean, nobody's taking more of a beating or delivered 551 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: more of a physical game other than Kayier White maybe 552 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: than Trey McBride this year. And he's like, oh, yeah, 553 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: that ball's in the air, that's my And we'd love 554 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: to see Marvin Harrison Junior have that same mindset. And 555 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 3: you know what, I do think it's feasible, possible, plausible 556 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: because his rookie year, Trey McBride was a little tentative, 557 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: little timid, little bet and then all of a sudden, 558 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: guess what, he proved it to himself middle of last 559 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: season when Zach Ertz went down and you just saw 560 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: him grow. You saw the confidence grow and the best 561 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: case scenario is that's exactly what happens with Marvin Harrison junior. 562 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: What we just saw over the last season and a 563 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: half with Trey mcplay. 564 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: McBride seven catches, sixty five yards and a touchdown on Sunday. 565 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Overall this season, one hundred and eleven receptions for eleven 566 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: and forty six yards, two touchdowns, and the fourth highest 567 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: total by tie it in in a single season in 568 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: NFL history. 569 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: Wow, I mean so. 570 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, brock Bauers finished with one hundred 571 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: and twelve third highest in NFL history. 572 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: I think when we go back and we think about 573 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and what we just witnessed, I think 574 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: history will say we saw an unbelievable historic season from 575 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: Buddha Baker and Trey McBride. I don't think in the 576 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: moment we appreciate fully what Buddha Baker and Trey McBride 577 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: put out on that gridiron all seventeen games this year. 578 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: It was real and it was spectacular in every way. 579 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: Those guys put on a showcase of dominant playmaking football 580 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: on either side of the ball. 581 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: And speaking of Trey McBride, you referenced it moments ago 582 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: postgame conversation on the Cardinals Locker Room Show, Yes Trey McBride. 583 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: The only person to stop Trey on Sunday was Paul Calvic. 584 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: The conversation began with Paul just asking in the very 585 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: basic reporters question his thoughts on the season that just completed. 586 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: Ye, proud of the guys. Uh, how they came out today. Man, 587 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 4: We're uh we're really playing for nothing today. And I 588 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: think the guys came out to play. They played hard. 589 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 4: Defense really showed up. Man, they were hitting those guys 590 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: real hard. And uh, just really proud of the way 591 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 4: we finished. The way you finishes, it goes into the offseason, man, 592 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 4: so this whole offseason, this is what we got to 593 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: look at. And uh, this is a great win for 594 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 4: our team. 595 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: Not every team out of the playoff picture finishes with 596 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: that sort of intensity urgency, right, I mean what do 597 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: you attribute that to? 598 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 4: I Uh, you know, I think that's just coaching. JG 599 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: does a really good job of getting us prepared ready 600 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: to go every week. And uh, you know, the defense 601 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 4: came out, got a couple of takeaways for us, and uh, 602 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 4: you know, Kyler had a great game as well. So 603 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 4: just so excited for this team. Uh, you know, obviously 604 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: we didn't get to where we want to go this year, 605 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 4: but I think we're building the things the right way 606 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 4: and we got a bright future ahead of us. 607 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: Was there a turning point or maybe a catalyst in 608 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: this game, whether it was the fake pun or maybe 609 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: the skirmish with Jawan Jennings. 610 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 4: You know that that that whole scrimmage with with that 611 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: guy was was tough and it you know, I didn't 612 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 4: want that to affect us, but that was a really 613 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 4: good player for him and getting him out of the 614 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 4: game actually helped us a little bit. But uh, you know, 615 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 4: I'm just excited for this team. That fake punt helped, 616 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: you know, and just Kyler played really well. He threw 617 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: I think three three or four touchdowns a day. So 618 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 4: just super excited for that for these guys to to 619 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 4: build on this in the offseason. 620 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: Trey McBride, our guests, let's talk about your season. What 621 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: are you most proud of your campaign? 622 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: Well, just to you know, be healthy. Most importantly, I'm 623 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: just happy for these guys and uh, I'm just I'm 624 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 4: just thankful to be here. I love I love being 625 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 4: in Arizona Cardinal and uh, most importantly, I'm just I'm 626 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: just thankful for this team, for this organization, and these 627 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 4: guys give me a chance. 628 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: You mentioned your connection with Kyler. It took a little 629 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 3: time to evolve and grow, but I mean, you guys 630 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: had so much production, you know, catches, the targets, it's 631 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: been really effective. What do you attribute that to and 632 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: what has been most critical in that connection? 633 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Kyler's a great player. He's a guy 634 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 4: who who does everything the right way, and uh, you know, 635 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 4: I just try to get open for him, and you know, 636 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 4: we we found we found a good connection together, and 637 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 4: you know, I'm excited for that to only grow and 638 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 4: get better. He's a he's a tremendous athlete. He's a 639 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: guy I love playing with and a guy we're gonna 640 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 4: you know, play a long time together. So this connection 641 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 4: is only gonna get better. And I'm just happy for 642 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: Kyler and this team. 643 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: Two more questions for Trey McBride, first and goal the 644 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 3: two you get your second touchdown catches as many games 645 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: take us through that play and what was the gratification 646 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: level there? 647 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, they motioned me over and uh, you know, I 648 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: as Manda man Fred Warner's covering me Mando man and uh, 649 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 4: you know, that was a matchup that we wanted. That's 650 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: a matchup that we liked. And uh, you know, Kyler 651 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: just honestly threw a really good ball. It was kind 652 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 4: of an okay route and Kyler threw a great ball, 653 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: put it where only I could catch it, and uh, 654 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: you know, it was just exciting to get another touchdown 655 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 4: on the last game against a really good football team. 656 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: What's your confidence level when the ball's in the air 657 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: and it's coming your way. 658 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 4: Very confident. I feel like I catch every single thing 659 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: thrown to me. And you know, we had a couple 660 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: of mishaps today, but you know, obviously we got a great, 661 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 4: bright future and I'm excited to only grow with Kyler. 662 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 3: So we d w Trey Mchurdle and kick butt Kowski. 663 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: Uh take us through that one. 664 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I jumped up in the air and 665 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, this is not good. Uh 666 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 4: that guy met me up in the air, and you know, 667 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 4: I landed back on my feet and I was just 668 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: surprised I wasn't down yet, and uh, you know, I 669 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: just tried to make a play and it worked out 670 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 4: on in my behalf. But what a great end of 671 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: the season and a fun play for us. Any kickboxing 672 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 4: in your off season, Yeah, no, I better get to 673 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: jumping or something because but no, it was a great, 674 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 4: great game. So proud of these guys, so proud of 675 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 4: this team and excited to just build onto it. 676 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: And you hear it right there, Paul when Trey says 677 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: excited to just build on it. And I think that's 678 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: the sentiment you get, whether it was postgame Sunday or 679 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: Monday morning locker clean out, guys excited about what's ahead 680 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Yes, everyone needs a break physically mentally, 681 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: but there is a lot of excitement. I think that's 682 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: the proper word of going into this offseason knowing that 683 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: year three is the year has to be the year again. 684 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: How many head coaches get more than three years without 685 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: a playoff appearance. How many quarterbacks get what will be 686 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: Kyler's seventh season with only one playoff appearance. So there 687 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: is heightened expect going into twenty twenty. 688 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: Five, no doubt. And I'm guessing you know they have 689 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 3: their wish list, they have their shopping list, and they're 690 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: checking it twice. You know, you're definitely looking for certain things. 691 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: The edge rusher, no doubt about it. It's about quarterback. 692 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: Affect the quarterback, protect that quarterback. I would say number 693 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: two interior offensive line would be on the shopping list 694 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: this offseason, whether there's a free agent, whether there's someone. 695 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: Where are the Cardinals drafting sixteenth? 696 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: Sixteenth? 697 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: You know that's that's an area where you could feasibly 698 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: you know, if you get an absolute stud offensive guard, 699 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 3: I have no problem taking that number sixteen overall, no 700 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 3: problem whatsoever. You know you need that guy. I do 701 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 3: believe you have the tackles. You most definitely have the center. 702 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: Will Hernandez. What's going to be a status next year, 703 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: both in terms of his health and his contract, We 704 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: don't know. I do believe the Cardinals miss Will Hernandez 705 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: more than we quite comprehend and realize. You know, at 706 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 3: the la Rams fourth and one in that first quarter 707 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: and James kind of stuffed. I get it, he wasn't 708 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 3: fully healthy, and it was sort of maybe an early 709 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 3: indicator that you know what, he he wasn't going to 710 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 3: have it in that game. But who are you running 711 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 3: behind in that moment? You know you have backups and 712 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: you have rookies in there. Isaiah Adams has really rated 713 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 3: well in the eyes of the coaches now. He told 714 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 3: the media that he really spent a good portion of 715 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 3: this regular season, you know, in the weight room as well. 716 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: That is that's you know, but I could see him 717 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 3: coming back. Cardinals have an outstanding strength and conditioning staff. 718 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 3: You know, you spend the entire offseason in the squad 719 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 3: rack and you come back Isaiahams because he has lengthy, 720 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: has the athleticism, he has the temper and demeanor for that. 721 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 3: He has the skill set. I mean, he really does. 722 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 3: Now if you just get him a little little, you know, 723 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 3: thicker in terms of being able to anchor. But I 724 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 3: do believe they're going to build from the inside out. 725 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: I know Kyle Vannenbosch and some others have said, get 726 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: a deep threat, get a speed guy out there, Hollywood 727 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 3: Brown type, a burner, a John Brown type, if you 728 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: want to go back to years or so, I could 729 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 3: see that, Yeah, you know, send a guy down the 730 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 3: scene and really open it up underneath for Trey McBride, 731 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior, Michael Wilson and company. That makes some sense. 732 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 3: But I would say those are big areas and you 733 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 3: know what, at this point, it's not a complete rebuild. 734 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 3: It is fine tuning and adding some extra parts. And 735 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: to me, that's what's most encouraging is that you're not 736 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 3: starting from scratch. You have two massive rookie classes that 737 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 3: have gotten a ton of game reps the last two years. 738 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 3: So I do think it is realistic to think Cardinals 739 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: do take that next step in twenty five. 740 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: That has to be the goal for twenty twenty five. 741 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,959 Speaker 1: Some other news items from Monday, But first things first, 742 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: because we do it each and every week, and we 743 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: can't go week eighteen without knowing because everyone anxiously awaits 744 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: it each and every week. 745 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 3: The Angry Bird Award winner, well, there is no you know, 746 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 3: conditions on playing time. Okay, it's just you go out 747 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 3: there and you earn it or you don't. Sean Murphy 748 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 3: Bunting didn't make it to halftime, Buddy, he did earn 749 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: the Angry Bird Award. A he had an interception, so 750 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 3: he's productive. B had the back of his teammates Darling Thomas. 751 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: And see when you got a dude out there who's 752 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: an instigator and he's trying to punk people outside the 753 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 3: norms of the game and taking a few liberties with 754 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 3: physicality in atypical situations where it's uncalled for, unexpected. You 755 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 3: know what, the sideline respects someone who's going to hold 756 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 3: another player accountable however, however, and whatever it takes. And 757 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 3: so Sean Murphy Bunting, here you go the Week eighteen 758 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 3: Angry Bird Award. So he puts the angry he does 759 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 3: the most salacious play or player. So you can take 760 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 3: your pick either for the interception or for the fisticuffs 761 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 3: and bringing the fight to the fight. That was Sean 762 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: Murphy Bunting. 763 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: Some news items on Monday, Kelvin beacham telling reporters quote, 764 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: we'll see. When asked about next season, next season, is 765 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: it here or elsewhere? It does sound like Beach will 766 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: play a fourteenth season. He said he's got his wife's 767 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: approval and that's all that matters now. He just needs 768 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: to find a home as far as a home in 769 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: the NFL, And it certainly would be nice if he 770 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 1: winds back with the Arizona Cardinals as again a veteran 771 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: presence in that O line room. And then also again 772 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: the need for a versatile swing tackle on a moment's notice, 773 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: play left side, play right side, Beach did both and 774 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: did it very well more times than not this season. 775 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you realize the extent of his experience. So 776 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 3: when he was thrust into the starting tackle gig a 777 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: few weeks ago, Hey, Kelvin, I just asked him, real 778 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 3: quick fact check over here from Polly Pencilneck six years 779 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: as a starting left tackle nine Oh okay, correction duly noted, 780 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: thank you, mister Beach. So I would say, yeah, it's 781 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 3: probably either his fourteenth season as an NFL offensive lineman, 782 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 3: or that is, if nobody offers him a CEO job 783 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 3: of a major business or he doesn't decide to run 784 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 3: for governor. I mean, it's all right there in the 785 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 3: near future for Kelvin Patrum. 786 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: The other item, According to reports, the Bears have requested 787 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: to speak with offensive coordinator Drew Petsing a bet they're 788 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: opening at head coach, and this is something that had 789 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: been I wouldn't say in the works, but we had 790 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: heard rumblings even earlier in the season, and then based 791 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: off of how the offense looked, he was either a 792 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: candidate or who was going to get fired. He was 793 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: a candidate who's going to get fired. So riding that 794 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: roller coaster of emotions, at least from the outside, but 795 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: within NFL circles, Drew Petsing is highly sought of and 796 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I'm expecting him to be back, 797 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: but again, now he's in that head coaching circle of candidates, 798 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: and we'll have to wait and see, because I don't 799 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: think if Drew's the first one, it shouldn't be too 800 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: long before Nick Rolis becomes the second one. 801 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 3: You know, It's funny how those who know the game 802 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 3: and the insiders and the NFL know the capabilities of 803 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 3: Drew Petsing, right it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who think 804 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: they can call plays and because they Madden and Fantasy Football. Okay, 805 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: The connection with the Bear Zoe in particular, speaking of 806 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 3: having inside knowledge and knowing, is Kevin Warren, the Bear's president, 807 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 3: who was the CEO of the Vikings for four to 808 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 3: five years when Drew Petsen was on the Vikings staff 809 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 3: basically twenty fourteen to fifteen through twenty nineteen twenty TWENTYO. 810 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 3: You connect the dots, So that is the connection right there. 811 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 3: Kevin Warren, who has a lot of Valley ties and 812 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 3: before he went on to become one of the executives 813 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 3: with the Vikings and then he was the Big Ten commissioner. 814 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 3: Now he's president the Bears. So that's no fluke. There's 815 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 3: a cause and effect right there, Kevin Warren and Drew 816 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 3: Petsing and we'll see, we'll see. I mean, he's a 817 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 3: very impressive offensive coordinator. I'm guessing he's gonna interview very well. 818 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 3: That is a curious happening on this Monday after this 819 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 3: season finale. 820 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: JG has been very complimentary. Kyler Murray has sung the 821 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: praises Drew countless times this season. That all matters as 822 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: far as making sure that continuity of head coach, offensive coordinator, 823 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: and quarterback stay in year three, provided that Drew does 824 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: not get the Bears job. But again, good luck to him, 825 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: because you always like to see those position coaches work 826 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: their way up the ladder. Andrew Petsing has certainly done that. 827 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: Quick programming note Cardinals Cover two is not going anywhere, 828 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: maybe not as frequent in the offseason, but we can't 829 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: get rid of Paul by the way. Congratulations because as 830 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: we announced on pregame and then postgame. 831 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 3: There's no congratulations. This is concocted. What are we talking 832 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: twenty years on the sidelines Cardinals Radio Network. One time, 833 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: big deal, one time I've been running into was Rondel 834 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 3: Morro's last season and what happened to Rondell? They traded him. 835 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Don't mess with a sideline reporter. 836 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 3: No thanks to Rondelle. Was my bad, not giing being it. 837 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 3: What only was my fault the kicking that was behind 838 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 3: me and the team docs have zero lateral ability, they 839 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 3: can't get out of the way, and then all of 840 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 3: a sudden, before you knew it, I was in the fray, 841 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 3: the eye of the storm. So when in doubt, get 842 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 3: out of the way. That was a good reminder last year. 843 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 3: But no, I appreciate that. It is striking to think, 844 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 3: you know, when Jimomhundra plays the wolflyisms from two thousand 845 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 3: and six and then you just realize everything that has 846 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 3: elapsed in the last twenty years. It is. It is remarkable. 847 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: No doubt, Paul has seen a lot and we'll continue 848 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: to see a lot on the Arizon a Cardinal's sideline. 849 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: So yes, it's been a fun season, a little bit 850 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: more of a roller coaster than maybe people anticipated. But again, 851 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 1: I do think as cliche as it sounds, and maybe 852 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: in the moment when you're six and four and finish 853 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: eight to nine, it doesn't feel like that. But I 854 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: do feel good about where this team is headed moving forward. 855 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 1: And now we just wait and see what moves are 856 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: made and maybe what moves are not made. 857 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 3: And for the second straight off season, they know what 858 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 3: they need, they know what they're shopping for. When they 859 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 3: first took over, you didn't really have a sense of 860 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 3: your roster and what guys were made of until you 861 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 3: get to game situations. Right, so last off season, right 862 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 3: all right, Now we know this off season. Now we 863 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 3: really know what else needs to be added, and there's 864 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 3: no doubt in my opinion that they will be very 865 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 3: aggressive this offseason, both in free agency and. 866 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: The draft, and that work for the off season begins 867 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: right now, immediately as far as what needs to be 868 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: done to get this team into the postseason, and we'll 869 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: cover it all off season long right here on Cardinals 870 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: Cover two. 871 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 3: And on that note, we will put a lit on. 872 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: This edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by a Hyundai 873 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 1: pro partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks 874 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Mama Hunter, our associate producer, 875 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: Credit Fincher walcl VC. 876 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm Craig Real Lou. 877 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.