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Speaker 1: and welcome into the Thursday Podcast. Michael Irvin, the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer the Playmaker is gonna stop by. Let's discuss

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. Pretty funny story this week. Hub

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Speaker 1: Arkish a sportswriter in Chicago, and for the record, doesn't

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Speaker 1: that sound like a sportswriter in the twenties. Hubarkish then

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Speaker 1: covered the Senators to beat the Bruins in one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest games ever while wearing a top hat God,

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Speaker 1: I wish my name was hub Arkish. It just sounds relevant,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. Red Barber with the play by play, Let's

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Speaker 1: hand it over to hub Arkish on the sidelines. Any who.

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Speaker 1: Hubarkish came out in Chicago radio station and he said,

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is a jerk, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to vote for him for MVP. And then Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers came out yesterday and said hub Arkish is a

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Speaker 1: bum bull. Damn Thing's funny. Hub Arkish, Folks, despite how

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Speaker 1: grand his name is, is one of fifty voters. He

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Speaker 1: does not reflect the entire media. If you're listening to me,

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Speaker 1: in your family, your immediate family and cousins is fifty

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Speaker 1: people and one of them got arrested. Do I believe

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Speaker 1: that your family is part of some sort of crime

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Speaker 1: syndicate or you have a d bag somewhere in your family?

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Speaker 1: Probably the latter. One person doesn't speak for a family.

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Speaker 1: I don't get outraged when a single member of the

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Speaker 1: media does something ridiculous because I choose not to be outraged.

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Speaker 1: I have friends in the media, liberals and conservatives. They

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Speaker 1: make money doing grievance television or having a Grievance website.

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Speaker 1: Do I really think Ben Shapiro is that pissed off

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Speaker 1: a mental health specialist. I don't think the anchors on

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Speaker 1: That Fox News anchors really go around throwing pots and

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Speaker 1: pans all day. But grievance and outrage cell I don't

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Speaker 1: think hub Arkish, as he hammers outlines on his telegram

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Speaker 1: tell the difference between something that's really worth getting upset

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Speaker 1: about and what's unnecessarily built for click outrage. I hope

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Speaker 1: you can tell too. These are television performances and radio performances.

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Speaker 1: If you're really upset over what hub Arkish said and

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Speaker 1: it ruined your day, either get a dog or a girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. A sportswriter called a player a jerk, and

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Speaker 1: thing's funny. Remember when resumes used to matter. They'd show

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Speaker 1: If a good person with a wonderful life resume of

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Speaker 1: a bad person. If somebody that's a bad person and

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Speaker 1: Don't resumes sort of matter Antonio Brown and Bruce Arians.

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Speaker 1: Did Bruce Arians force him to go in? Antonio Brown says,

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Speaker 1: To kirk Herb Street think he could say that and

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Speaker 1: What journalism ethic was breached, He criticized Rob Manfred. Manfred

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Speaker 1: They are there simply to promote their sports, all right.

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin three times Super Bowl champ, the Playmaker, How

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Speaker 1: the hell is life right now? Michael? Hey, life is good.

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Speaker 1: And you know we've had a great season. Any team,

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Speaker 1: That to mean counse as good as what we call

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Speaker 1: physical gifts. Shoulders down. Okay, so Akman had both. What

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Speaker 1: You never saw Jerry get caught. You never saw it.

424
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Speaker 1: Just seemed like he was always faster than everybody else.

425
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: But but yeah, we had plenty, plenty of wide receivers

426
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Speaker 1: that I loved. I love watching Jerry so funny. I

427
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: remember we played he played San Francisco, and you know,

428
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: I'm a mom. I want to I want to be

429
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Speaker 1: the best guy on the field every game. My job

430
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: was to be the best guy on the field. That's

431
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Speaker 1: why I received on that field every day, and we

432
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: were playing Sanfrancco cheery boop right over the top. He

433
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: goes to eighty yards. Now we are hyper beginning again.

434
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's go hed get us eighty eight right now,

435
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: let's go to hit the field Georgians. He just politely waited.

436
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm young in my heart, he said, Michael,

437
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: eighty is not us. We can get four twenty yards,

438
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: four twenties, you know, for four square years thirty four

439
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: deepole and didn't get down the field. But that's not

440
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: gonna try to do something that's not us. You know

441
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was so good at always bringing

442
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: it back home and making sure that you played Jodday.

443
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: That's why I say, is there a team AFC or NFC.

444
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Speaker 1: Mine is Tennessee that I just wouldn't want any part

445
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Speaker 1: of there. It's hard to prepare for Tennessee because you

446
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: don't have a running back in your camp like Derrick Henry,

447
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: so I can't really prepare. It's almost like in college

448
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 1: when Oregon had Chip Kelly and they were doing that

449
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: play everything, that play every thirteen seconds. You can't really

450
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Speaker 1: prepare for it. If you're on a pro style offense.

451
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: You can't prepare for Lamar Jackson. I think Tennessee's a

452
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Speaker 1: nightmare to play. Is there a team for you that

453
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Speaker 1: you look at and you think, I don't know how

454
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Speaker 1: talented they are, but they're just a they're a tough

455
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Speaker 1: week of practice. Well, and it's those teams that really

456
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: in Aca comes off that Belichick treat its bell checking rable.

457
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Speaker 1: You know you, first of all, let me tell you

458
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Speaker 1: why when you play those two teams, you're going to

459
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: play a football game. You're not just playing this week.

460
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna feel this next week. So just get rid

461
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: of it. You know when you played or you play,

462
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: you played bell check. You know it's going to be physical.

463
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: You know this team's not going to be themselves. They're

464
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: not going to beat themselves. You got to come to play.

465
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: And and and and and we're both nobody really knows

466
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: the ceiling for either one of those teams. For either

467
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: one of those teams, we got a great defense, but

468
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: but they run the ball well. And if the young

469
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Speaker 1: guy that make the mistakes, they just played with anybody,

470
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Speaker 1: you know, And and I'm I'm just so afraid I

471
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: don't even know what the sea can be if Baron

472
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Speaker 1: Henry's coming back and coming back in any kind of ship.

473
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Speaker 1: But I do believe, guys, and you remember itself. He's

474
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Speaker 1: been out with the foot injury, and he's a running back.

475
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Speaker 1: I don't know how he's got need with me or

476
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Speaker 1: any kind of football shape. You see what I'm saying.

477
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Speaker 1: So it's going to take time to work him back in.

478
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: But they've been running the ball pretty good while he's

479
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Speaker 1: been on the sideline and winning game and Arsta Warren Brown,

480
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Speaker 1: He's just say, he's just beastifying everybody right now. Is

481
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Speaker 1: the key to that old team? Okay, I want to

482
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Speaker 1: talk college football. There was a story out that Jim

483
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: Harball could think about going to the NFL, and he

484
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: won sixty nine percent of his games with the Niners.

485
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Speaker 1: They didn't have a winning season for eight years before

486
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Speaker 1: he got there. He got him to the Super Bowl,

487
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: he left, they went to the toilet again. So he

488
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: can coach. We know that he's won everywhere he's been.

489
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Speaker 1: And I said today on the air, Michael I said,

490
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Speaker 1: the NIL and the transfer portal. Even the NFL has

491
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Speaker 1: a salary cap, and even the NFL doesn't let you

492
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Speaker 1: leave during the regular season. They have free agency after

493
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Speaker 1: the season. Right now, in college football, Michael, it's the

494
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: wild wild West. You could leave after a game Week four.

495
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: You could pay a car dealer, can pay a wide

496
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: receiver eight million. There's no guardrails on any of this stuff.

497
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: And I wonder, Michael, I said, coaches like structure, some

498
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: of these college coaches. I think if Saban was fifty nine,

499
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: I think you'd go back to the NFL. I love

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Speaker 1: college football, Mike, and I'm for transfers, and I'm for

501
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: players getting paid. I am, but I like ice cream.

502
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't eat it for breakfast. There has to be guardrails,

503
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Speaker 1: right like when you look at college football now and

504
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: I think you agree with me. Players should be able

505
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Speaker 1: to transfer. But isn't it a little wild wild West

506
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: right now? It's a mess, it is. And it's funny

507
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: you say this because I won't mentioned his name, but

508
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: I was also prominent college coach. And most people think

509
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: that that portal is there for the players. That portals

510
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: there for schools also because that's those schools. Those schools

511
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: are recognizing players that they've given scholarships to that notice,

512
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: oh you're not as good as we thought. And they're

513
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: using that to get ready using that portal. They can't

514
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Speaker 1: tell those kids, maybe this is not the place for you.

515
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Maybe you should get into the portal and then let

516
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: somebody else become this issue and we get back a

517
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: dollar scholarship and go get us another player. So it

518
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: really is become the wild West and that thing that's

519
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: supposed to benefit the players to turn around and bite

520
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: the players. Also, because now it's no longer you got

521
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Speaker 1: a four year scholarship. You got what we got in

522
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: the NFL one year. You have to fool yourself and

523
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: play it again every year. It's what Jimmy used way

524
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: back in the day when you should tell us those

525
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: scholarships are not four years, skys a one year renewal.

526
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: And if you don't do what you gotta do, but

527
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: we will not be redewing this deal. We're gonna get

528
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: you right of here. Now. They just ship your own

529
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: to the portal. It gets you own out of it. Also,

530
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Speaker 1: the nil the name image likeness. Everybody says, oh, it's

531
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Speaker 1: a win the world. But here's the thing, though, is

532
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: if Auburn says Caleb Williams quarterback at Oklahoma, we'll pay

533
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: a two million bucks and Lincoln Riley says we'll pay

534
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: a million. Well, it better serves Caleb Williams to go

535
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: to the better court, the better coach, and then become

536
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: a number one pick in the draft. Like Baker and

537
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: Kyler and Jalen Hurts. He elevates all their brands. I

538
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: worry that some players will just take the short term

539
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: money and go to a worst coach that won't develop them.

540
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: I worry about that with Caleb Williams, Right, and you

541
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: take the small money over the big money that would

542
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: have been did you would have gotten the d I

543
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: drafted earlier, And it's different tens of millions of dollars,

544
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: not that, not just that million, and not only that.

545
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: Also you're going to be taking away these young teams

546
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: is they don't understand the full scale of the marketing angle.

547
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: You go and get a little deal for some car dealership. Wait,

548
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: give me a card and thirty thousand dollars you and car.

549
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. But you just took yourself

550
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: out of that category moving forward, where somebody could have

551
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: had a million dollars deal for you. You know what

552
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you have to measure that according to

553
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: how great you think you are going to be. I'm

554
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: not giving this up for ten thousand or twenty thousand

555
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: and thirty thousand dollars. I need to have right the

556
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: right kind of people around me that can foresee bitter

557
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: deals ahead and say, hey, we don't want to get

558
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: rid of this category for this small amount of money.

559
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: All right, Michael, I like, I know everybody's gonna say

560
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City and Green Bay for the Super Bowl, But

561
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: I worry about the Packers. Tend to be pretty and

562
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: you can run the football on them, and I worry

563
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: a out their ability to get Leonard Fournett off the field,

564
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: or Cam Akers and Sony Michelle off the field, or

565
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: James Connor off the field, or Tony Pollard and Zeke

566
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: or Philadelphia or San Francisco. I don't think Green Bay

567
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't think comes out of the NFC. I will

568
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: take the Chiefs, but I think Tennessee and Buffalo are really,

569
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: really strong potential to beat the Chiefs. Do you have

570
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl you absolutely in your mind see today? Well,

571
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, I like what you suggested, and we measured

572
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: if we get tough id A inside the NFL. I

573
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: still had the chief number one in the Chiefs and

574
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: loss of Buffalo, Tennese. You know what I mean, cincinnetted

575
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: all those teams in there. But I said, this college,

576
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: will we get into tight. The tight is the playoff

577
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: where all boot tea holds get tight and get real tight.

578
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: Now can be the mistake that sends you home before

579
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: the mistake that sent us to the drawing board. We

580
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: got to get better and improved. Now all right, bye

581
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: you that mistake if you want to. So those rooties

582
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: get tight. And when you get into type, who's going

583
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: to perform? And a lot of those guys that we

584
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: see at amc U, the herberts h these guys haven't

585
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: really been all the way in that type as much

586
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: as much as packing my home and that experience to

587
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: me getting still makes me mean on Kansas City. Now,

588
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: the Green Bay anger that you're talking about, I would

589
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: concur to you on certain things, but then I defer

590
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: on others. And that's where I go. That's where I go.

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00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: I was with y'all said, no way at the beginning year,

592
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: green Bay can win a Super Bowl with this one

593
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: trick poem, just Aaron Rodgers and the bunt to Adela

594
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: here again, I'd be glad here another definitely, when you

595
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: know what, there's a place that I've held sacred. I

596
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: mean just sacred and put myself on that mountain. But

597
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: but but the combination of Joe Montana and Jerry Rice,

598
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: I've held that sacred. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen.

599
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: And it's Aaron Rodgers and the bunte blows up there.

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00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: This dude, davnte Is It's much better than I think

601
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: even people give him credit for. He's big. He has

602
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: such short verse quickness. You're bracketing him and he's still

603
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: getting open. So I see that. And then the Arizona game,

604
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: I was looking for another element, another element. Said this

605
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: to I don't believe the Super Bowl team. They need

606
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: another element. And I saw that other element in Dylan,

607
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: that big dude. He gives you something in the red zone.

608
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: That's what Green Bay was missing last year. Remember when

609
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: they got down close to the red zone, they didn't

610
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: have anybody to turn and hand the ball off. And

611
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, remember those players, they took the ball out

612
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: of him down and it took him off the field.

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00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 1: You go back to that situation. Now they came around

614
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: and hand that ball off the Dylan they'll go to

615
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So I do believe Brimday has a

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Speaker 1: good gen. All right, buddy, great senior as always wildly

617
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Speaker 1: entertaining The Playmaker. Thanks you. You're a busy guy. You

618
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Speaker 1: didn't have to do this. You do this a couple

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Speaker 1: of times. You never have to do this, but you

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Speaker 1: always do. Got it, got it, And you know, like

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Speaker 1: I know color when you get a podcast and you

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Speaker 1: go how hard it's getting people and make sure they're

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Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do it short he's supposed

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Speaker 1: to shot. You say okay, when I agree you get

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Speaker 1: one or two people that because this does that, you say, okay,

626
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Speaker 1: when I tell somebody I'm going to do it, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to do it because you know how much it

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Speaker 1: throws you all and any time for you, buddy, I

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Speaker 1: always enjoy coming on and trying to chopping it up

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Speaker 1: with You're good man. All right, Thanks Michael, Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Oh guys man, Happy New Year, God bless, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 1: and has so many different angles. Michael Irvin, The Playmaker

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Speaker 1: three rings, talk Soon the volume