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Speaker 2: Star in frest Call. I got the hiccups, guys, sorry
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Speaker 2: for that. Yeah, it's a little bit of a hiccup,
Speaker 2: just like the Cowboys had a hiccup in week three.
Speaker 2: Whatso did you do there twenty eight to sixteen? Was
Speaker 2: that SCRIPTA No, it wasn't. Actually that was off the
Speaker 2: rip off the dome. That was off the dome. That's professional.
Speaker 3: Yeah, things didn't go well in Arizona. Nick Harris landed
Speaker 3: at about ten thirty last night. Dude, that's good that
Speaker 3: the team got off the plane in Dallas, because it
Speaker 3: didn't seem like they got off the plane in Arizona.
Speaker 2: It didn't look like things happened well for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Just I mean, for the most part, that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a bad Arizona team, and the
Speaker 3: Cowboys lost to a bad Arizona team.
Speaker 2: You don't think so I didn't agree with it last week.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with it. Now, what did you? What's
Speaker 2: your score prediction?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I predicted that Dallas would win. But I also
Speaker 2: stated that I felt like this team is a problem, right,
Speaker 2: and so I mean, like, yeah, yeah, so, I mean
Speaker 2: like Arizona's not a bad team. Arizona is a team
Speaker 2: that's figuring themselves out.
Speaker 8: I think they're an undermanned and depleted cy I.
Speaker 2: Agree with that statement, right, But they're not a bad team.
Speaker 2: Dobbs is figuring out this team. He's only been there
Speaker 2: for a little while. The head coach is figuring this
Speaker 2: team out. They've only been there for a little while.
Speaker 2: Like they have some pieces now they do. They have
Speaker 2: the level of talent that Dallas has. Absolutely not. Should
Speaker 2: they lose a Dallas on paper, no, absolutely not, right,
Speaker 2: But in terms of some of the things that we
Speaker 2: talked about, last week, they reared their ugly head. Right,
Speaker 2: we knew that they could run the ball, We knew
Speaker 2: that their style of running was going to cause problems.
Speaker 2: We knew that Dobbs had a cannon. We knew these
Speaker 2: things like these. There was there wasn't anything that happened
Speaker 2: that we were surprised by. Right, we knew these things.
Speaker 2: These problems were prevalent, but Dallas just didn't didn't check
Speaker 2: the boxes to take care of them. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the running game especially was awful. It makes me
Speaker 8: wonder if these running game problems still exists. It just
Speaker 8: took a while to get exposed again. I mean, one
Speaker 8: hundred and eighty two yards given up in the first
Speaker 8: half on the ground, most for the franchise since nineteen
Speaker 8: ninety one. So yeah, whether it was James Connor, Joshua Dobbs,
Speaker 8: even Rondelle Moore got back there and went forty five
Speaker 8: yards untouched to the crib. It was tough, man, It
Speaker 8: was tough.
Speaker 2: What now, I was just gonna say, just referencing some
Speaker 2: of the things that we addressed last week. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is why people should tune in, because we try
Speaker 2: to try to send the alert signals out of the back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like we talked about, I know, at least I did
Speaker 2: specifically about this is the type of running offense. Right,
Speaker 2: that's very philly Ish, Right, I said, it's very philly Ish,
Speaker 2: right in terms of his own read, in terms of
Speaker 2: those things and how they're able to take the defensive
Speaker 2: ends out of the game. That's what happens when you
Speaker 2: have a quarterback who's capable of running, and he hurts you.
Speaker 2: And he made you aware of that very very early
Speaker 2: in the game. Right, he lets you know, Hey, I
Speaker 2: can get out on you. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: now you're like, crap, I can't be as aggressive now.
Speaker 2: I have to really after respect the fact that he
Speaker 2: can run. So now guess what. I can't pinch and
Speaker 2: restrict the running the running gaps as I intended to,
Speaker 2: because I have to go out here and respect the
Speaker 2: fact that he might boot leg out of it and
Speaker 2: keep the ball. Right, I can't just be as aggressive
Speaker 2: because they have the zone read and he could pull
Speaker 2: it or he can give it. Either way, I'm creating
Speaker 2: seams that's created problem for Dallas in the past, right,
Speaker 2: And that's why we reference that. Like Jalen Hurst the
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles They're able to run the ball against Dallas
Speaker 2: in recent times because of that style of offense, and
Speaker 2: everybody who has that and has the capability to actually
Speaker 2: run it with their quarterback has been successful against Dallas.
Speaker 2: Now do you acknowledge it and you try to address it,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that you can stop it. And that's
Speaker 2: where I think Dallas is at right now. They know
Speaker 2: that they struggle with that type of offense. We knew
Speaker 2: that they struggled with that type of offense, but they
Speaker 2: still couldn't stop it. And that's where I think people
Speaker 2: have a big concern right now.
Speaker 3: You talk about rushing yards allowed last season, when of
Speaker 3: course it was a big red flag about this Cowboys defense.
Speaker 3: Nasty defense, one of the best in the NFL still is,
Speaker 3: and yeah, they're going to have a lapse every once
Speaker 3: in a while, but run defense has always been a bugaboo.
Speaker 3: Two hundred and forty yards was the most they gave
Speaker 3: up last year and that was in Week eight against
Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears. Running quarterback Yep, justin Fields. A lot
Speaker 3: of that came from his legs and the way he
Speaker 3: was able to run the football. This would have ranked
Speaker 3: second on the list two hundred and twenty two yards
Speaker 3: allowed against Arizona. This would have been number two on
Speaker 3: a list of a bad run defense last year as
Speaker 3: most yards allowed.
Speaker 6: So it's not a good thought. Like you talked about, the.
Speaker 3: Point of focus throughout the entire offseason was let's sure
Speaker 3: up to run defense.
Speaker 2: Let's go get a Mazzie Smith.
Speaker 3: He's been relatively ineffective, if not completely real ineffective through
Speaker 3: the first three weeks of the season.
Speaker 6: He's a rookie, He's got fourteen games left. Hopefully more
Speaker 6: than that. There's still time for him to make an impact.
Speaker 6: He just hasn't yet.
Speaker 3: But to this point, is there a red flag still
Speaker 3: for this Cowboys defense saying this is still a problem
Speaker 3: and it needs to be fixed.
Speaker 8: I mean, after yesterday, I don't think there's any other
Speaker 8: conclusion than yes. With Joshua Dobbs and James Connor, I mean,
Speaker 8: both of those guys were able to find their holes,
Speaker 8: and man, they found a lot of yardage in those
Speaker 8: holes too, So man, they were flushing out the defensive line.
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons was completely flushed out of the game at times.
Speaker 8: DeMarcus Lawrence in the same sense, whenever they ran to
Speaker 8: his side. I mean, they attacked the middle of that
Speaker 8: defense early and often, and it was the whether it
Speaker 8: was Jonathan Hankins, Olso Digyezua Mazzi, Smith, Layton vander Esh,
Speaker 8: those guys, they just weren't able to get downhill. And
Speaker 8: I think that's what eventually led to what that first
Speaker 8: half lead looked like. And then trying to climb back
Speaker 8: into it with this offense, which I'm sure we'll dive
Speaker 8: into the offense a little bit later. I have my
Speaker 8: thoughts on that as well, but I think it just
Speaker 8: kind of created the perfect storm. It created the perfect
Speaker 8: storm of identifying what the problems were and A, it's
Speaker 8: still the run defense, and then b there's gotta be
Speaker 8: some juice on offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I want to save the offense to the
Speaker 3: second segment because there is, like Nick just said, there's
Speaker 3: a completely different storyline around the offense. But I think
Speaker 3: the significant storyline in this game, and probably at the
Speaker 3: top of the list, is the fact that the defense collapsed.
Speaker 2: With the way that it did.
Speaker 3: It looks so good in weeks one and two against
Speaker 3: good opponents. I'm not going to discount the Giants yet,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to discount.
Speaker 2: The Jets yet.
Speaker 3: But both of those teams on paper are better than
Speaker 3: what this Cardinals team was. But then you turn around
Speaker 3: and you say, Okay, the defense has a performance like
Speaker 3: they did in Week three, and it doesn't get much easier.
Speaker 3: You got the paytriots coming up this upcoming week. You
Speaker 3: got Bill Square, you got Bill Belichick, Bill O'Brien running
Speaker 3: that offense. Then you got the running back doe of
Speaker 3: Ramandre Stevenson and oh this guy that of course wants
Speaker 3: to get at your throat and that's Ezekiel Elliott. Those
Speaker 3: are the run game coming up this week against New England.
Speaker 3: So where does it start defensively? Where do you want
Speaker 3: to see the biggest uptick because it doesn't happen it
Speaker 3: usually doesn't happen overnight, but you kind of need it
Speaker 3: to happen overnight this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you got to start today. You know,
Speaker 2: everybody all hands on deck, coming in here and watching
Speaker 2: film and really having a heart to heart with everybody.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets their great shoes, so all those things happen.
Speaker 2: But if it's normally a two hour session and make
Speaker 2: it four, right, we really have to get really in
Speaker 2: tune and really particular about the things that need to
Speaker 2: improve in this in this scheme, and I think that
Speaker 2: there are more advanced rushing defense against base runs. Right,
Speaker 2: So when you have a breeze hal in delv Cook
Speaker 2: and you were able to shut those guys down, those
Speaker 2: guys are lining up and you know where they're going.
Speaker 2: They're coming downhill, right, or they're going just outside the box.
Speaker 2: I think that stuff is traditional. They're good with that.
Speaker 2: They sued that up, which is awesome. But this this new,
Speaker 2: this new little wrinkle, right, or not a new wrinkle, right,
Speaker 2: but this that that that option you know, uh version
Speaker 2: concept is just it's uneasy. It's really uneasy, man. And
Speaker 2: then you look at it from the passing perspective, and
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna pay aten to the rush defense. This dude,
Speaker 2: Dops was able to throw for eighty one percent completion rate.
Speaker 2: And these weren't These weren't hitches. He was effective. These
Speaker 2: were not hitches. You know, there was there was dropped coverages.
Speaker 2: I mean know Jay Lou's getting back into the system,
Speaker 2: but that big play, you know, was jaylu dropping coverage.
Speaker 2: You know it was a man and man coverage and
Speaker 2: apparently he didn't get the call that he thought it
Speaker 2: was three, so he was saying in his own and
Speaker 2: the guy ran to the open spot of the field
Speaker 2: and was able to I was curious. I haven't been
Speaker 2: able to go back and watch that from from what
Speaker 2: I understand about the defense. Yes, it was Jay Lou's fault.
Speaker 2: I mean, just look at it. Look like a dropping
Speaker 2: coverage and the safety throwing his arms up in the air,
Speaker 2: like what the heck kind of gave me a confirmation
Speaker 2: of that. Then you look at Darron Blant. He struggled
Speaker 2: on the outside. He struggled. You know, we talked about Gilmore,
Speaker 2: like Gilmore's good, but Gilmore don't have the juice that
Speaker 2: he that he used to have, you know, so like,
Speaker 2: are we really this do you really have an expectation
Speaker 2: of him to keep up with guys who were four
Speaker 2: to three?
Speaker 8: Yes to fund Gilmore really struggles with speed. I think
Speaker 8: that's starting to become a little bit more prevalent. We
Speaker 8: talked about it coming out of the Jets game, just
Speaker 8: like Gary Wilson kind of got him a couple of times,
Speaker 8: Rondeo morg got him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about what what do we say before
Speaker 2: speak four to three? Speed across the board? Like, you
Speaker 2: have to stay on top of these guys, right. You
Speaker 2: can't come up here and press like you've been pressing
Speaker 2: everybody else up like give them space, respect it right,
Speaker 2: and play downhill And unfortunately just didn't work out that way.
Speaker 2: So there's some there was a lot of kings, and
Speaker 2: everybody's going to say, well, you know, we're missing guys
Speaker 2: on defense, Trayvon was missing on the defense, and offensive
Speaker 2: line was in shambos, and yeah, those are all true statements,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean that you can all of a
Speaker 2: sudden just say, hey, we played down you know, and
Speaker 2: that's I think that was a statement that I think
Speaker 2: everybody's kind of up in arms about right now, that
Speaker 2: you know, we played down to our opponent. You can't
Speaker 2: say that you played down to anybody ad until you
Speaker 2: played him at least once.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think with the offensive line struggles that
Speaker 8: they had, well excuse me, the offensive line replacements that
Speaker 8: they had to make, three out of five starting offensive
Speaker 8: linemen having to be replaced, and then Deron Blain having
Speaker 8: to fill in for Trayvon Dicks, neither of those things
Speaker 8: lost the game yesterday. I think that's the big biggest
Speaker 8: takeaway that people need to kind of look at and
Speaker 8: see what this loss was caused by. It was the
Speaker 8: rush defense in the fact, you know, as we said,
Speaker 8: we'll get into the offense later. But yeah, offensive problems
Speaker 8: as well, and it was neither of those things. It
Speaker 8: was neither of those things.
Speaker 3: I really like the way that Babelfenberg put it. He
Speaker 3: tweeted it out last night, and I just thought this
Speaker 3: was well put.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 3: He I say it all the time, and I said
Speaker 3: it before the game today, not making an excuse for
Speaker 3: a sloppy performance. But this is not Alabama playing Middle Tennessee,
Speaker 3: where as long and nothing against Middle Tennessee or the
Speaker 3: Blue Raiders, where as long as the bus doesn't break down,
Speaker 3: they win. Arizona has NFL players, and I have a
Speaker 3: source tell me that they also play.
Speaker 2: They also pay their coaches. It happens.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's part of the NFL is you can't,
Speaker 3: like you said, you can't play down to your opponent
Speaker 3: until you play them. It certainly, from a talent standpoint,
Speaker 3: looks like Dallas played down to their opponent.
Speaker 6: And it looks like that, but you also this happens.
Speaker 6: It does, and it happens.
Speaker 2: The good teams. Sometimes it happens to the great teams.
Speaker 2: I've got a couple of instances.
Speaker 3: I'll pull it up as i'm talking here, but where
Speaker 3: great teams rebound from losses like this, Good teams will
Speaker 3: lose games that they shouldn't and they'll lose them a
Speaker 3: couple times throughout a season. Great teams rebound. You go
Speaker 3: look at the ninety two, ninety three, and ninety five Cowboys.
Speaker 3: They lost to losing teams each of those years. Ninety
Speaker 3: two they lost twenty seven to twenty three to a
Speaker 3: four and six Rams team. In nineteen ninety three they
Speaker 3: lost twenty seven to fourteen to a four and six
Speaker 3: Falcons team. In nineteen ninety five they lost twenty four
Speaker 3: to seventeen to a four to nine Washington team. I
Speaker 3: almost said the old nickname that I shouldn't say anymore.
Speaker 3: And then if you want a recent example, you want
Speaker 3: something else to throw into the fold. How about the
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs last year against they bad Indianapolis Colts team.
Speaker 3: Guess when Week three of the NFL season, Week three,
Speaker 3: they lost twenty to seventeen on the road to the
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts, a team that was winless at the time
Speaker 3: and the team that of course ended up being right
Speaker 3: there at the top of the NFL draft. So there's
Speaker 3: there's thought process around, Oh, this team is the same
Speaker 3: old team.
Speaker 2: Nothing is off the board just yet. You got to
Speaker 2: find a way to rebound.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 6: If you don't rebound in a good way, then maybe
Speaker 6: you are just another team.
Speaker 3: This team still has a chance to be great, but
Speaker 3: it's how they rebound these next three weeks and really
Speaker 3: tough matchups that's going to really show what this team
Speaker 3: is made of.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we had a point last week. I believe it
Speaker 8: was you, Kyle was saying, what do you want to
Speaker 8: see more from this defense? And what do you want
Speaker 8: to see more from this team as a whole, And
Speaker 8: I think we just had consistency. It was like because
Speaker 8: last year there were times when they'd go three four
Speaker 8: weeks where it was a really rough stretch was Jacksonville Houston,
Speaker 8: you know that stretching like the middle to late part
Speaker 8: of the season, and it kind of felt like that yesterday.
Speaker 8: You know, it kind of felt like to me, it
Speaker 8: felt like they played down in the opponent and that
Speaker 8: I mean they had in the locker room after that
Speaker 8: they got punched in the mouth. You know that they
Speaker 8: didn't expect this. They came out flat and it just
Speaker 8: kind of snowballed from there. But yeah, I think there's
Speaker 8: a really good opportunity here to rebound. I like that
Speaker 8: it came at this point in the season, especially with
Speaker 8: the adversity that happened this week with Treyvon Diggs going down,
Speaker 8: with the offensive line going down so late in the
Speaker 8: week as they did. But it's a really good opportunity
Speaker 8: to bounce back. And you have three really good opponents
Speaker 8: before the bye week, so you're gonna have to, you know,
Speaker 8: put this one behind you quick and get going.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at the schedule coming up for Dallas, because
Speaker 3: it's not only New England next week.
Speaker 2: Who's coming off of a win.
Speaker 3: And I don't think the Patriots are scary by any means,
Speaker 3: but they're certainly a formidable opponent and they've got Bill Belichick.
Speaker 8: It's a good head coach. It's a really good opportunity
Speaker 8: to bounce back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then, of course everybody has already had that
Speaker 3: Week five matchup on the road in primetime against San Francisco,
Speaker 3: followed by another primetime matchup the week after that against
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, Patriots, forty nine Ers, Chargers bye week, and
Speaker 3: then you got the Rams and the Eagles right after that.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't slow down. It doesn't.
Speaker 3: And these are three crucial games. I think you got
Speaker 3: to win at least two of the three, if not
Speaker 3: all three, if you really want to be in position
Speaker 3: to where you want to try and fight for that
Speaker 3: number one seed in the NFC, because now it's it's
Speaker 3: keeping pace now. Now you've got to find a way
Speaker 3: to keep pace with those teams around you, including Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: which if we're talking about Philadelphia schemes in Philadelphia look alikes,
Speaker 3: they still look like Philadelphia at times, even though they've
Speaker 3: had their own fair share of struggles in their two wins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not even be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I'm not even there yet, But I think this was
Speaker 2: the most Philadelphia Ish team that we've that we faced,
Speaker 2: simply because their defensive coordinator obviously, and some of the
Speaker 2: things that they do offensively, and it showed up. You know,
Speaker 2: people could write it off all you want to, but
Speaker 2: that's the reality that was. That was my concern going
Speaker 2: to this week, was that, hey, they do Philadelphia stuff
Speaker 2: on defense, and then they do Philadelphia stuff on Hoffman's
Speaker 2: in terms of their their running schemes, So it presented
Speaker 2: a problem. People could say, oh, it was just a
Speaker 2: one off game or all you want to, but this
Speaker 2: style has been a problem and pain in there, but
Speaker 2: offensively and defensively.
Speaker 3: What what was the feeling like in the locker room afterwards?
Speaker 3: Was was it disappointment or was it more of just
Speaker 3: an anger or where would you.
Speaker 8: Kind of I wouldn't say there was any linger, just
Speaker 8: because I know what those those angry losses look like
Speaker 8: at times. I would say more so disappointment. Jonathan Hankins
Speaker 8: he's he's got a really good personality and he's just
Speaker 8: kind of able to, you know, be really personable and
Speaker 8: especially in situations like this. And we were able to
Speaker 8: talk to him in the locker room after and he
Speaker 8: was like, yeah, man, we got punched in the mouth.
Speaker 8: You know he kind of he laughed like, not laughing
Speaker 8: like and not taking it seriously. You know, it's just
Speaker 8: it is what it is. It's an any given Sunday
Speaker 8: type moment, and you know, it kind of reared around
Speaker 8: it and reminded everybody yesterday. Yesterday kind of gave everybody
Speaker 8: a slice of humble pie in a sense. You know,
Speaker 8: everybody talked about, you know, them being humbled. You know,
Speaker 8: Dak Prescott was saying he kind of took it upon himself, saying,
Speaker 8: you know, I have to do better. We have to
Speaker 8: do better as an offensive group. I think the good
Speaker 8: thing is is almost everybody took responsibility yesterday, because I
Speaker 8: think there was responsibility to be taken in every position
Speaker 8: group yesterday. I think the only position group I can
Speaker 8: look at and be like, you know, what they did,
Speaker 8: as much as they could have done, was a running game.
Speaker 8: And you know, I really liked what they did. But
Speaker 8: aside from that, I think there's improvements to be made
Speaker 8: across the board.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the offense. Let's talk about some of
Speaker 2: the things that went wrong.
Speaker 3: Red zone is still a big, glaring red flag for
Speaker 3: this Cowboys team and what they could possibly do there?
Speaker 3: And is there a lack of trust between play caller
Speaker 3: and quarterback. I want you guys to answer that question
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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the offense.
Speaker 6: We've already hit the defense.
Speaker 3: Defense, for the most part, was the storyline collapsing, giving
Speaker 3: up two hundred and twenty two yards on the ground.
Speaker 3: Not pretty from that side of the ball. But it
Speaker 3: wasn't perfect offensively either. Able to move the ball effectively.
Speaker 3: I mean that was not a problem. Cowboys put up
Speaker 3: four hundred and sixteen yards of total offense. Dak Prescott
Speaker 3: finishes the day twenty five to forty, two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty yards through the year touchdown interception. Like Nick alluded to,
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard twenty three carries one hundred and twenty two
Speaker 3: yards didn't have a touchdown, but his first triple digit
Speaker 3: performance of the twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 6: What were your overall takeaways.
Speaker 3: Nick when it comes to this offense and what you
Speaker 3: saw on Sunday, Man, I loved the fact that they
Speaker 3: were able the march downfield.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 8: Third down efficiency was remarkable. Yesterday it felt like nine
Speaker 8: of sixteen. Yeah, it felt like at times you didn't
Speaker 8: even want to watch first and second down because you
Speaker 8: knew third down was where it was going to happen
Speaker 8: by the end of the play. It was like by
Speaker 8: the end of the drive. There was one drive specifically
Speaker 8: where they drove down the field, battled two penalties, battled
Speaker 8: a sack, and battled three third downs and got all
Speaker 8: the way down to the red zone and couldn't score.
Speaker 8: And I think that was just the story of the
Speaker 8: entire game yesterday, was the fact that they were able
Speaker 8: to march down. It didn't matter where they were pinned
Speaker 8: down to. They were able to get inside the twenty
Speaker 8: and things just stalled out. So five red zone trips yesterday,
Speaker 8: only ten points to show for it. Dak press Got
Speaker 8: said it after the game. He's like, the fact that
Speaker 8: we couldn't score in the red zone is why we
Speaker 8: lost this game. That's the story of this game, period.
Speaker 8: So red zone execution. You know, I think, you know,
Speaker 8: we may have talked it down in a sense in
Speaker 8: the first two weeks, like we had talked about it
Speaker 8: being a problem, for sure, but I don't think I
Speaker 8: don't think we realized how big of a problem it
Speaker 8: could be. And I think it showed its ugly face
Speaker 8: yesterday for sure.
Speaker 3: I want to go back and clip the actual conversation
Speaker 3: that we had, but it was like, Okay, they won
Speaker 3: the game against New York. They looked great, but the
Speaker 3: red zone was a problem, and you can't go five
Speaker 3: or five Brandon Aubrey field goals later and feel like
Speaker 3: that's a good thing going against good teams.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was ultimately what we said last week.
Speaker 3: Did we realize or did we think it would happen
Speaker 3: in week three against Arizona and it would rare it's
Speaker 3: ugly had immediately?
Speaker 2: Probably not, but it was certainly a talking point that
Speaker 2: showed up again in week four or excuse me, in
Speaker 2: week three. Yeah, I mean, it's it's an issue. First
Speaker 2: two weeks, like you said, we tried to write it
Speaker 2: off as Okay, they'll figure it out.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: Coach McCarthy's getting used to the system. It's a problem.
Speaker 2: It's a problem. It's an official problem. I think week
Speaker 2: week one, we're like, nah, hand over the buzzer. Week two,
Speaker 2: took the lid off, Week three hitting the buzzer, hitting
Speaker 2: the buzzer. Because this is you're being You're too efficient
Speaker 2: on offense to get down there and not take advantage
Speaker 2: of completely take advantage of the opportunities that you're presenting
Speaker 2: for yourself and is dominant as your defense is, you're
Speaker 2: still putting them in a bad predicament every time you
Speaker 2: go down there and don't capitalize off of the red
Speaker 2: zone opportunity. So to the next point, you're moving the ball,
Speaker 2: that's awesome, Rushing the ball, throwing the ball, OK, highly effective,
Speaker 2: But then you get down there and things are restricted
Speaker 2: and you're not making decisions quick enough your play calling.
Speaker 2: I like on the interception that Dak through, I get it.
Speaker 2: I've I've ran that exact play like a gazillion times
Speaker 2: before in practice and in the game, and it's it
Speaker 2: wasn't there. It just wasn't there on that particular play
Speaker 2: where the ball was supposed to go. It just wasn't there.
Speaker 2: So one, Dak, you have to you have to make
Speaker 2: the right decision in that particular instance. And then two
Speaker 2: you know, I also I say, Dak, we need you
Speaker 2: to use your legs. Bro, Yeah, you have to use
Speaker 2: your legs man. Like there is a couple of times
Speaker 2: down there where when you're facing one on one and
Speaker 2: people are going to say, oh, but he's a quarterback.
Speaker 9: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I can't hear that right, Like as a competitor, I
Speaker 2: have one on one and I need five yards, like
Speaker 2: not getting me down. That's that's my mentality. I can't
Speaker 2: speak for another man, but my mentality offensively was you're
Speaker 2: one man's not getting me down. And I want Dak
Speaker 2: to get to that point if he's not already, and
Speaker 2: then start utilizing that because it's going to help him.
Speaker 2: We talked about it in camp because he was using
Speaker 2: his legs in camp thatk wasn't practice at.
Speaker 8: Least we saw in the first two weeks.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, we saw it, saw it, But like that
Speaker 2: has to be prevalent, Like he has to bring that
Speaker 2: aspect to the game because otherwise it in negates what
Speaker 2: you're what you're capable of doing offensively, and they won't
Speaker 2: respect it. And if they don't respect it, then they
Speaker 2: don't have the scheme for it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think. I think also what plays into this
Speaker 8: is they don't have a red zone weapon. Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 8: is probably your best red zone weapon, and he's not
Speaker 8: the biggest guy in the world. He's not gonna out
Speaker 8: physical you. You know, he could probably go up and
Speaker 8: out jump you and headtop you a little bit, but
Speaker 8: that's not going to be as reliable as you know,
Speaker 8: what does has been for this team, or what you
Speaker 8: know Witten was for this team, or even Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 8: all the way up until last year. You know, they
Speaker 8: don't have a bruise a tight end that can you know,
Speaker 8: go up and just out physical you. I love what
Speaker 8: Jake Ferguson has actually done in these first three weeks.
Speaker 8: Let me say that, like even yesterday there were times
Speaker 8: man Ferguson looked good. But they don't have a guy
Speaker 8: that can just get in there, get his nose dirty
Speaker 8: and go get those yards. And I think that's probably
Speaker 8: the root of this issue. But also just very simplistic
Speaker 8: play calling that they put out in the open field
Speaker 8: trying to do the same thing within close quarters in
Speaker 8: the red zone, and you know, when you're running, you
Speaker 8: know mesh concepts in the red zone. I just don't
Speaker 8: feel like that's the best thing to do in the world.
Speaker 2: I mentioned this yesterday on a postgame show, but the
Speaker 2: best weapon in the red zone, right. You talked about
Speaker 2: the root of the problem. I believe the root of
Speaker 2: the problem for the Dallas Cowboys in the red zone
Speaker 2: is the inability to run the ball effectively down there.
Speaker 2: Because when you're able to run the ball effectively down there,
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, all the tinging at placed
Speaker 2: gets placed on the run. So then everybody has to
Speaker 2: respect it. You have to respect it. If I could
Speaker 2: literally line up and I'm gonna say, hey, we're in
Speaker 2: a five yard line, We're about to just run through
Speaker 2: your face, and we're gonna what's your entire line and
Speaker 2: in linebackers back backwards into the end zone, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna do this every single time we come down here.
Speaker 2: Now play action becomes prevalent. Now I can do a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of you know, different releases and everything else
Speaker 2: I want to do, right, misdirection and all the other
Speaker 2: foolery that you see down in Miami. Like you could
Speaker 2: do that because I can line up and literally just
Speaker 2: run the ball at you all day long if I
Speaker 2: want to, Dallas doesn't possess that. We were excited about
Speaker 2: the potential of that because the Tyler Smith coming back
Speaker 2: this past week. Tyler Smith comes back and you lose
Speaker 2: three other guys.
Speaker 8: Honestly, I don't feel like the red zone issues even yesterday,
Speaker 8: where the offensive line was was a huge facilitator. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the confidence to be able to
Speaker 2: line up. They move guys off the ball, right. Yesterday
Speaker 2: was not a day where you felt like, Okay, you know,
Speaker 2: with three replacements and I can feel like I just
Speaker 2: move anybody off the ball, regardless of who who I'm playing.
Speaker 2: But when Tyler Smith comes back and you have your
Speaker 2: first your five starters for the first time ever, That's
Speaker 2: what we were referring to last week on the podcast,
Speaker 2: like we felt confident that this running game was gonna
Speaker 2: really get going, and that coach McCarthy in the rezone.
Speaker 2: Now I'd be like, here you go, I don't care
Speaker 2: who has the ball back there, right, We're going to
Speaker 2: move you guys off the ball. You're excited about that potential,
Speaker 2: and you didn't get a chance to see that because
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're missing your guys.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the play propensity. Is that how you
Speaker 3: say propensity? We looked at you for I know I'm
Speaker 3: the pronunciation guy. Play propensity is.
Speaker 2: I think what it is.
Speaker 3: It's on one of the NFL statistic websites, and I'm
Speaker 3: looking at it. Percent of passing plays in the red
Speaker 3: zone on goal to go scenarios. So whenever there's a
Speaker 3: yard marker, so let's say there's one yard to go,
Speaker 3: two yards to go, three, et cetera.
Speaker 2: All the way down.
Speaker 3: It's how many times a play is called in a
Speaker 3: certain scenario in yard in goal to go scenarios. For
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty three, anywhere from two
Speaker 3: to six yards, it's one hundred passing plays anywhere from
Speaker 3: two to six yards, it's one hundred percent called a pass.
Speaker 3: I mean, that is an unbelievable amount of number. The
Speaker 3: only one where there's a little bit of a you
Speaker 3: in terms of the run the run game is whenever
Speaker 3: it's yards to go at one, that's it. That's the
Speaker 3: only one where it's where it's one hundred percent run.
Speaker 8: So many plays?
Speaker 2: Does it say? I was looking for snaps, I.
Speaker 3: Can't find snaps yet, but that'll be part of my
Speaker 3: weekly research because if that number stands the way that
Speaker 3: it looks like here, that's certainly a problem. I think
Speaker 3: for the most part, there's a storyline, there's a bit
Speaker 3: of a there's a bit of a conversation among Cowboys
Speaker 3: fans right now. And I'm asking this question not because
Speaker 3: I believe the answer is yes, but because I think
Speaker 3: it is a question that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2: But I've had multiple people send it to me.
Speaker 3: On Twitter, and whatever, does Mike McCarthy's play calling indicate
Speaker 3: that he doesn't trust Dak Prescott specifically in the red
Speaker 3: zone play calling.
Speaker 6: If I'm looking at those numbers and those numbers are.
Speaker 3: Correct based off of this propensity, I'm saying I don't
Speaker 3: think it has anything to do with the trust of
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott in the red zone.
Speaker 8: I will say the offense yesterday was really dumb down.
Speaker 8: I don't feel like there were were opportunities to get
Speaker 8: guys open downfield. Again, we've talked about how they were
Speaker 8: able to march down the field, but when you're you
Speaker 8: had those long, methodical four five six minute drives, when
Speaker 8: you get down to the red zone, you're gassed, and
Speaker 8: I think it was more so just like a gas sense.
Speaker 8: You know, I want them to take more shots in
Speaker 8: the open field, And I think, does it have to
Speaker 8: do with trust as I have to deal with not
Speaker 8: having three starters on the offensive line. Who knows, but
Speaker 8: I would have liked to see more shots taken downfield
Speaker 8: and a little bit more trust in that game, just
Speaker 8: because there were opportunities to do that yesterday those of
Speaker 8: Mo where Ced Lamb was wide open for about a
Speaker 8: forty five fifty yard touchdown. Dek just missed them. But
Speaker 8: that was the only opportunity that I saw during the game, Yesterdy,
Speaker 8: I was like, oh my god, someone got opened downfield.
Speaker 8: You know, I want to see one one point thirty
Speaker 8: drive where they go down the field, you know, seventy
Speaker 8: five yards in that type of time. But when they
Speaker 8: get down to the red zone, it's it's I think
Speaker 8: it's more of a gas sense. I don't think there's
Speaker 8: a lack of trust in the red zone at all,
Speaker 8: just because again, this entire offense was constructed around deck.
Speaker 8: They wouldn't have done that if there wasn't trust there.
Speaker 8: But it may just be an energy thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think just from being a former quarterback,
Speaker 3: being in those situations, in those scuddles, does it do.
Speaker 6: How big is a trust? Let's just let's shift the
Speaker 6: question this way.
Speaker 3: How big is a trust between Mike McCarthy and a
Speaker 3: play collar Whenever you are in that situation like that,
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy in his quarterback, I should say, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's everything.
Speaker 2: I don't mean. I don't think it's It just comes
Speaker 2: down to decision making, right. I mean, but I think
Speaker 2: you're I don't think your confidence varies with your quarterback
Speaker 2: based upon where you're at on the field. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I think that he has wholehearted trust,
Speaker 2: and I think they probably have a relatively good relationship.
Speaker 2: They have to head coach, quarterback, head coach, office coordinator.
Speaker 2: Those relationships are are are knit tight. They have to
Speaker 2: be otherwise you get Chicago. So I don't I don't
Speaker 2: foresee that. I mean, the people are going to obviously
Speaker 2: look for talking points. I don't think that's an issue.
Speaker 2: I just think that they have not been executing. Is
Speaker 2: conditioning an issue?
Speaker 3: Whenever you're running away West Coast offense, because kind of
Speaker 3: like what Nick was talking about, you're running deep into
Speaker 3: down scenarios, you're running third downs, you're converting on those
Speaker 3: third downs, you're moving the chains.
Speaker 2: The way that this offense was built.
Speaker 3: Is there a conditioning issue or is it just based
Speaker 3: off of the fact that, I mean, there is not
Speaker 3: a whole lot of trust.
Speaker 2: In the offense. They said what they ran eighty somewhut
Speaker 2: plays last week. They ran seventy five plays this week.
Speaker 2: I believe you're getting up run to eighty play echelon
Speaker 2: most times, most teams are running sixty plays. So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: conditioning plays a part in it. But that's again, it's
Speaker 2: not the reason why they're not being successful. It's just
Speaker 2: not they're just not executing, like you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: an excuse guy whatsoever. It's just they just are not
Speaker 2: executing and they have to figure it out.
Speaker 8: Thirty four minutes and thirty three seconds time of possession yesterday, yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean they held the ball, they were doing things
Speaker 8: effectively in the open field, and when they got inside
Speaker 8: the twenty, it was just who knows.
Speaker 3: When the defense gets gashed for big yardage on the
Speaker 3: ground too, I'm sure that helps out a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit happened a couple of times. So
Speaker 3: but I I mean, even we talked about it. This
Speaker 3: is a offense predicated on moving the chains.
Speaker 2: They did just that.
Speaker 3: They had twenty six first downs, they were moving the ball,
Speaker 3: they were effective on the third down.
Speaker 8: We just got sixteen yards is a lot.
Speaker 2: It's a good twenty yard. No, that's a good day.
Speaker 2: You had a yes Underdard Rusher.
Speaker 3: You had a quarterback that threw the ball effectively for
Speaker 3: the most part, outside of the interception late.
Speaker 2: It just it didn't work out in the red zone.
Speaker 3: That's that's the one big knock on this game is
Speaker 3: the red zone is glaring at this team and it's
Speaker 3: something that has to be figured out.
Speaker 6: Speaking of getting figured out, this injury situation wasn't good.
Speaker 3: I mean, when we were on the air Friday, we
Speaker 3: thought we were having a first time all year, first
Speaker 3: time since twenty twenty one, that all five offensive linemen
Speaker 3: were available.
Speaker 2: That didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the injuries and what could happen next
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Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeomans breaking down the loss. The Cowboys vault
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Speaker 3: at home against the New England Patriots.
Speaker 6: But let's talk about the injuries going into week four.
Speaker 3: Because Friday we sat here on this show, we looked
Speaker 3: across the hallway and said, Wow, Tyler Smith looks like
Speaker 3: he's on his way back. We're going to get Tyler
Speaker 3: Smith back in the fold, starting five offensive linemen for
Speaker 3: the first time since twenty twenty one. All those guys,
Speaker 3: since Tyler Smith has been drafted, they have not played
Speaker 3: a single snap of football where all five guys have
Speaker 3: been on the field.
Speaker 2: Madness, all five.
Speaker 8: We were so close this week and then it just crumbles.
Speaker 6: And then it crumbled.
Speaker 3: Tyler battish out Zach Martin out, Tyrone Smith pat it up,
Speaker 3: worked out beforehand, tried to go, it didn't go out.
Speaker 3: YEP three starting offensive line, and Tyler Smith was back
Speaker 3: in the fole. It was good to see him back
Speaker 3: out there and working. I'm sure he would have liked
Speaker 3: to ramp up period instead of being the cornerstone of
Speaker 3: the offensive line.
Speaker 2: I thought he did a nice job.
Speaker 6: We'll have to go back and watch the film a
Speaker 6: little bit more, but I think for the most part.
Speaker 2: He did did a decent job. The other side was
Speaker 2: his neighbor.
Speaker 6: His neighbor had a rough day, Chumadga.
Speaker 8: I really feel like Chum was a better guard. Is
Speaker 8: he's got the he's got the skill set and the
Speaker 8: traits that his body just looks like a guard. I
Speaker 8: would have liked to have seen Tyler at left tackle
Speaker 8: and move in Chuma at left guard, but we didn't
Speaker 8: see that at all yesterday. I will say this offensive line,
Speaker 8: once they settled in, they settled in and they did
Speaker 8: a really good job job. TJ. Bass had an awesome
Speaker 8: day and I'm really excited to go back and watch
Speaker 8: the film on him. But you can't look at this
Speaker 8: loss and look at the offensive line and be like, well,
Speaker 8: you know, maybe if we had all three of our
Speaker 8: guys front. No, it's not the case, not in my opinion. Really,
Speaker 8: if the starting five was upfront, they still lose that
Speaker 8: game yesterday, Yeah, because it.
Speaker 2: Was very problems for the most part. Outside of that.
Speaker 3: Do you think the injury news, because it did happen
Speaker 3: so late in the week it happened basically Saturday was
Speaker 3: when news started kind of surfacing that these guys could
Speaker 3: be out, do you think that deflated the energy because
Speaker 3: already they took a hit on Thursday with Trayvon Dicks.
Speaker 3: You kind of knew that one. You had a chance
Speaker 3: to at least let that sink in and motivate you
Speaker 3: going into the week.
Speaker 2: But then boom, boom boom up.
Speaker 3: Front on the offensive line, all three of those guys
Speaker 3: go down. I think that's got to be deflating for anybody,
Speaker 3: whether or not you're going to admit to it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it definitely has to be a lot of people
Speaker 8: in the locker room. Yesterday we're talking about the adversity
Speaker 8: that they had to overcome, not only during the week,
Speaker 8: but late in the week. You know, the Diggs injury
Speaker 8: happened Thursday, the be Oddish injury happened Thursday. The Tyron
Speaker 8: Smith injury happened Saturday. So yeah, a lot of stuff
Speaker 8: that they had to battle in the week. I mean,
Speaker 8: they didn't they didn't know that Tyron Smith wouldn't be
Speaker 8: able to go until he worked out on the field
Speaker 8: pregame and he was going off the field pre game
Speaker 8: right as you know, players were still coming in because
Speaker 8: he had taken the early bus to State Farm Stadium,
Speaker 8: and it kind of looked like from that since that
Speaker 8: he wasn't going to be able to go, and so
Speaker 8: they had to readjust from that moment, which was about
Speaker 8: two and a half hours before kickoff, and having that
Speaker 8: type of time, I mean, that's tough in preparation when
Speaker 8: you could be preparing for other things, when you could
Speaker 8: be preparing for you know, as we just saw a
Speaker 8: discussed last week, all the different looks that they were
Speaker 8: going to see defensively. I mean, that was the things
Speaker 8: that they could have prepared on in that sense, and
Speaker 8: they weren't able to because they were having to prepare
Speaker 8: to start three different guys up.
Speaker 2: Frontez crazy. I do believe it had an effect on
Speaker 2: the game because the fact Dak was under pressure. Back
Speaker 2: was not comfortable yesterday. I don't think that it swayed
Speaker 2: the game heavily, but I do believe that it had
Speaker 2: an effect on their offense and the things that they
Speaker 2: wanted to do offensively because they were under way more
Speaker 2: pressure than they had been in the first two games.
Speaker 2: Was unable to sit back on his back leg. We
Speaker 2: know you know that that you just can't. You can't
Speaker 2: put pressure on him, you can't allow for it, and
Speaker 2: you can't also allow for him to throw the ball
Speaker 2: forty times.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think the quick game was effective. I
Speaker 8: mean what they did it was it was effective and
Speaker 8: it should have worked.
Speaker 2: Michael Gallup woke up.
Speaker 8: Michael Gallup, Man, I would love to get into that
Speaker 8: at some point this week.
Speaker 2: He was awesome.
Speaker 8: He was I mean, a couple of jump balls that
Speaker 8: they gave him one on one opportunities on he brought
Speaker 8: him down, fighting fracture yardist getting first downs. That was
Speaker 8: one of the biggest positive is the fact that wide
Speaker 8: receiver three is back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the only target that he didn't catch was the.
Speaker 2: One that was in the back of the end zone.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was a PI that was not called a PI
Speaker 3: they picked the flag up. We talked about it in studio.
Speaker 3: Berry Church agreed that it.
Speaker 2: Wasn't no call. What was your thoughts on Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 2: and the resurgence of his body language.
Speaker 8: Body language specifically language. I didn't know this was a
Speaker 8: talking point with you guys.
Speaker 2: Was last year?
Speaker 8: Gotcha? So the one where he was missed on the
Speaker 8: forty five to fifty yard touchdown he was. There was
Speaker 8: definitely some body language after that because he was open.
Speaker 8: I mean it was tough, and he kind of lodged
Speaker 8: back to the line a little bit, came in a
Speaker 8: little slow, got the call in late, and I think
Speaker 8: they had a snap with like two on the clock.
Speaker 8: I'm not saying it was a directive to him, but
Speaker 8: that was a moment for me, obviously, after the PI
Speaker 8: call in the end zone or missed PI call in
Speaker 8: the end zone. I don't think that was PI. I
Speaker 8: think the gallop one was way closer than the CD
Speaker 8: one was. I agree, but yeah, it probably wasn't great.
Speaker 8: I would like to see him just kind of be
Speaker 8: alpha in those moments and didn't really see that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't don't look for the flag, look for the ball.
Speaker 8: Yeah, try and try and make a play, especially on
Speaker 8: third down. Yeah, especially on third day.
Speaker 2: I felt like, just being candid, I feel like he's
Speaker 2: took a step back this week in terms of his
Speaker 2: how he was carrying himself the leadership role he was
Speaker 2: really stepping into. I feel like he went back to
Speaker 2: what he was of last year, and it was not
Speaker 2: It wasn't encouraging. I hate it. I hate it seeing
Speaker 2: it and a lot of people to feel like that's
Speaker 2: not a big, big aspect of the game. Those are
Speaker 2: the little things that I, at least I pay attention to.
Speaker 2: I know I mentioned it to Kyle and those guys
Speaker 2: in the studio yesterday we're watching the game. I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: here it goes here, let's go I mean, stump that out.
Speaker 2: Don't let that fire get going again, right, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like you're doing fireworks, Like hey, stomp that grass
Speaker 2: out real quick.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I hope that that that he sees that and he
Speaker 2: self corrects himself to get back on the course that
Speaker 2: he was on, because you can't allow that the creep in.
Speaker 2: You cannot allow that the creep in. You can be
Speaker 2: as frustrated as you want to, but everybody sees that.
Speaker 2: I had bad body language, So I'm fully aware of
Speaker 2: what that looks like. Most of the time, you're not
Speaker 2: even mad about everybody else. You're frustrated with yourself, right,
Speaker 2: but it appears as if you're down and out about
Speaker 2: everything else that's going on. So he just I hope
Speaker 2: that he's more aware of that, or somebody at least
Speaker 2: brings that to his attention. I've got to bring it
Speaker 2: up to Isaiah at least once a week on the show.
Speaker 2: I you got to get that. You got to get
Speaker 2: the body language taken care of.
Speaker 8: You know, what do we make of Brandon Cook's two
Speaker 8: receptions on seven tar It's only seventeen yards yesterday, not
Speaker 8: making that like him being the speed option. He should
Speaker 8: work in this offense. He should have worked yesterday. Why
Speaker 8: didn't he work yesterday? That's that's going to be a
Speaker 8: big key of my film.
Speaker 2: Watch today. What did you see? Isaiah? I have to
Speaker 2: watch more, but I from what I saw, I don't
Speaker 2: think that his routes were as crisp as we've seen
Speaker 2: him do in the past.
Speaker 3: Because you've been very critical of gallups routes of not
Speaker 3: being able to get out of the state.
Speaker 2: Don't believe that gallup is getting out of his breaks.
Speaker 2: I think that what he does well, which we talked
Speaker 2: about last week. I said, he still can make the
Speaker 2: contested catch. He's still can run straight. Obviously, a slant
Speaker 2: route he can run that. But a lot of those
Speaker 2: comebacks and curls and a lot of those things, he's
Speaker 2: a little slow to come out the breaks. And I
Speaker 2: just you know, that is what it is. Cooks is
Speaker 2: normally your route guy, and I haven't watched enough of
Speaker 2: it yet to be able to make a full conclusion.
Speaker 2: But from the some of the routes that I was
Speaker 2: paying attention to, he was not very precise with his routes.
Speaker 2: And some of those routes you have to be precise with.
Speaker 2: I mean, especially the one down the red zone that
Speaker 2: Dack through. Would he have been opened even if he
Speaker 2: would have ran a precise route. No, But you know
Speaker 2: you still have to do your part. Yeah, what did
Speaker 2: you think about Cooks and what you saw off the rip?
Speaker 8: Yeah, as far as the initial watch yesterday from the
Speaker 8: back corner of the end zone and over the press,
Speaker 8: fox was at State Farm State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they took you guys back there, don't they.
Speaker 8: Yeah, But honestly, it was it was a great time
Speaker 8: we had. It was one of the cooler stadiums I've
Speaker 8: been to. But again, I'm gonna have to go back
Speaker 8: and watch film. But it's just it felt like he
Speaker 8: was getting out physical at times and he wasn't able
Speaker 8: to get inside off his release. And I think they
Speaker 8: were doing a really good job of preventing that. A
Speaker 8: couple of times he was and a couple of times
Speaker 8: he got receptions. But the fact that he couldn't get
Speaker 8: downfield and break the break the offense open downfield, I
Speaker 8: think that was a really big key indicator. But also
Speaker 8: this offense yesterday wasn't designed to get people open downfield,
Speaker 8: and that's what him and Gallup do best at times.
Speaker 8: And even CD, I mean CD, I mean he's really
Speaker 8: good in that short intermediate game, but like, these are
Speaker 8: downfield weapons and they weren't playing to those strengths yesterday.
Speaker 8: I understand not wanting to do that with three offensive
Speaker 8: linemen out up front, but those guys settled in.
Speaker 2: By the third fourth quarter.
Speaker 8: Take those shots you're down ten, you know, like take
Speaker 8: those shots, those those five six minute drives. It's not
Speaker 8: going to be effective at the end of the day.
Speaker 8: Let's say Dak ends up scoring on that play that
Speaker 8: he threw the interception on the end zone. Let's say
Speaker 8: they get a touchdown there. Cut it to what that
Speaker 8: would have been twenty eight twenty three or yeah, twenty
Speaker 8: eight twenty three. There was only three and a half
Speaker 8: four minutes on the clock, and you were working with
Speaker 8: two timeouts. They had drove, they had taken five minutes
Speaker 8: off the clock driving down the field, and they were
Speaker 8: taking their sweet time in the red zone two. So
Speaker 8: I mean, I just want to see more downfield opportunities
Speaker 8: for a lot of these guys, but especially Brandon Cooks
Speaker 8: because that's what he was brought here to do. We
Speaker 8: talked about him coming in this season. Oh, a thousand
Speaker 8: yard type guy. You know, he's gotten it with what
Speaker 8: five different teams. You know, this is an opportunity for
Speaker 8: him to do it with the six team. Thirty nine
Speaker 8: yards in three weeks. I understand he didn't play in
Speaker 8: Week two, but thirty nine yards in three weeks. You
Speaker 8: gotta get him open.
Speaker 2: Well. I think it.
Speaker 3: Goes back to what we've talked about with the West
Speaker 3: Coast scheme in general, is the fact that it's predicated
Speaker 3: on playing with the league and the defense setting the tone.
Speaker 3: If the defense doesn't do their job and doesn't set
Speaker 3: the tone, then the offense is going to have a
Speaker 3: tough time playing from behind.
Speaker 2: And we saw that on Sunday.
Speaker 8: So are you saying that the offense cannot win a
Speaker 8: game this year? It's going to have to be the defense?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that what it is right now? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Actually yeah, I mean I will say that because I
Speaker 3: think that the offense can win a game, say what
Speaker 3: you just Monday, But it can't be.
Speaker 6: It's got to be from ahead. You either got to
Speaker 6: go down and score first.
Speaker 3: When you get the ball, you choose to receive or
Speaker 3: whatever the other team defers, you go down, you score.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the way that the offense can set the tone.
Speaker 2: You've got to do that right off the jump.
Speaker 3: But then from a defensive standpoint, if you're on the
Speaker 3: field first, you can't allow for points first, and then
Speaker 3: a three and out from your offense, and then a
Speaker 3: touchdown with James Connor to make a nine to nothing.
Speaker 3: Even with a miss two point conversion, you're down by
Speaker 3: two scores. Yeah, that's that's the type of.
Speaker 6: Scenario that puts this offense in a pint.
Speaker 2: That's the type of thing that by.
Speaker 3: That point you're down by two score, it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: where are you going to get those two scores. You're
Speaker 3: gonna have to have a turnover, You're gonna have to
Speaker 3: have a stop. Then your defense has to win you games.
Speaker 3: If you're playing from behind, the offense can win you games,
Speaker 3: no doubt about it, but they've got to start ahead
Speaker 3: in order for the offense to win you games. The
Speaker 3: offense is not gonna win a game for you behind.
Speaker 3: It's gonna have to start with your defense, you know.
Speaker 8: And that's the question for Mike McCarthy today, whether it
Speaker 8: be from here anybody else, is what's the reason of
Speaker 8: not going downfield? What was the reason of taking these
Speaker 8: five six minute drives when you were down two possions
Speaker 8: in the second half?
Speaker 2: I bets you is his answer is offensive line.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just sure, and that's and that's that's very valid.
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, you're still down
Speaker 8: two possessions. You got to take those shots, no doubt,
Speaker 8: no doubt.
Speaker 3: All right, real quickly before we get out of here,
Speaker 3: one position group, because this was a complete team loss,
Speaker 3: as were the first two weeks complete team wins. What
Speaker 3: is one position group that has to see a major
Speaker 3: improvement going into week four?
Speaker 2: Linebackers?
Speaker 3: Linebackers, Okay, we'll talk more about that, I think tomorrow,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe even Wednesday.
Speaker 2: What do you think secondary? Okay, cornerback specifically without Trayvon
Speaker 2: Making and these guys, I mean this new Engand's going
Speaker 2: to throw the ball. So yeah, you think they throw
Speaker 2: it more than they run it.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. That'll be a fun breakdown coming up on Thursday.
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