WEBVTT - Project Tori: What Lies Beneath 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.719 Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:20.680 Hi Tory, Tory, Tory, it is so good to meet you, Dorothy, Dorothy, Dorothy. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.040 I wish you were here with me in person. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:28.240 Me too, you know, I love being with my clients 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.200 or or people i'm talking to. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.640 Yeah, okay, well we'll pretend you're right here holding my hand. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:34.559 Okay. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.880 It's so interesting in life. Do you find all the 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.400 people you have helped organize and get through things with 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.360 that if you're quite literally there with them, almost like 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.960 holding their hand, they tend to free more stuff up. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.720 It seems that way, Tori. Here's what I know. If 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:00.680 one person is working on a project all buy themselves, 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.840 you know, it's harder to do. You get another person in, 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.360 whether they're an expert organizer or just you know, a 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.520 friend who's helping you out Right, it's going to go 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.200 faster no matter what. Well, unless we're stuck in the 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.040 decision making. Ah. 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.959 Yes, I have been there in the past in my 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.280 life and decision making, but I don't feel like i'm 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:24.880 there right now. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:31.360 Good good. I actually heard I was listening to your 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.360 podcast the other day and I heard you say you're 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.440 kind of ready to get rid of a lot of stuff, 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:37.600 you felt like you're just. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:42.240 There for sure. I mean I had different moments over 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.840 the years, and I think this has been documented, like 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.800 on past reality shows everything, because I've always been pretty 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:52.440 you know, upfront with everything, open book to my detriment sometimes. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.920 But I like to say it like it is because 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.080 I enjoyed the human connection. I feel like it humanizes 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.120 all of us and gives us a connection whether we're 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.960 in person or not. But I did. I used to 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:12.440 place emotional attachment on inadamant objects y'all do, and. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.680 Most of us kind of in our age groups, you know, 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.920 one decade less or more. You know, we have some 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.000 of our identity tied up to the kind of work 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.880 that we've done. You know, if you're a chef, then 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.000 you're going to have a lot of chef recipes, a 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:36.399 lot of magazines, a lot of you know, equipment throughout 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.640 the kitchen. It's just going to be more of And 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.240 here you are in your world, and you've got a 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.839 lot of swag, and you've got a lot of I'm 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:50.519 imagining right products that come to you. Please bless our products. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.239 You know, you have all this stuff coming in, plus 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.760 you've got your kids, and when you have a lot 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.560 of stuff from in your world. I work with a 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:04.639 lot of celebrities. There's a lot of stuff you are 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.440 not alone. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:14.919 Fair Fair definitely. I think once a lot comes in, 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:20.840 if you don't actively put it away, organize it, you know, 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:25.079 give it away, it does tend to pile up. And 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:30.160 then it's like when you're working, I'm trying. I'm being mindful, 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.040 I think right now, because I don't want to defend 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.720 myself and I don't want it to sound like I'm 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.080 like no, but the fact is I'm a single, working mom, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:42.360 I have five children. These are all just facts. I 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.880 don't have any help, and my ex helps us a lot, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.320 but I don't physically have you know, when I did 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.480 this with the podcast last week, my co host Amy 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.400 we had talked about, you know, she's one single woman 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.160 and she has a whole staff, and I was like, 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.320 that's awesome, you know, but every situation is different, and 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.880 I'm happy for her. But for me, I'm like, gosh, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.480 even one other pair of hands, human hands, would help 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.360 me through life, because it's just you know, when they 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.320 say it takes a village, it really does. And if 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:19.119 you don't have that village or one other person. It's 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.880 it is. It's a hard task to do. And I 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.360 do think a lot of times I get this one 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.080 a lot. People say, we have five kids, you have 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:33.680 a built in helping village, and I say, yeah, I suppose, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.560 But I think that takes the mind of someone when 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.760 you're used to being like, I'll just do it all myself, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.240 and you don't ask for help. You don't even think 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.800 to ask your own children. If that makes sense, Oh yeah, oh. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.839 Yeah, absolutely. And you know you are a strong woman 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:55.200 who has been able to do nearly all of it yourself, right, 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.760 and so that's built into the system. And by the way, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.719 there is nothing for you to defend. If anyone's going 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:04.560 to you, it's me because I'll tell you why when 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.760 you're particularly women, but you know, men and women, if 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.880 you have a lot of projects going on, and I know, 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.960 just listening to the various podcasts of yours, you've got 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.719 a lot going on. But if you take the average 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.800 person who might be at home and let's say they 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.880 just go to what a travel expo, you know, and 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.760 get one of those bags full of all sorts of goodies, 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.039 then they want to bring home of trips they want 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:32.920 to take and things they want to do, and they 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.760 come home and put it on the dining room table, 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.480 right yeah, and there it is with full intention to 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.760 take action on it. But something comes up. A parent 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.920 has to go to the er, a kid has to 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.279 have a sudden you know meeting, you know with mom 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.960 and the teacher. Something else comes up, and so they're 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.640 that project is and then here's this other one. Now 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.920 we've got insurance claims, and now we've got all these right, 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:03.320 and then upcome was some sort of an activity that is, 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.800 you know, oh Mom, I need you tonight or whatever 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:07.160 it is. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:08.520 So here it is. 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.640 It's just the layering of it all. Yes, and then 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.400 how do you unwind to get back to it? If 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.080 you have a lot of projects, sometimes the stuff being 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:24.320 stacked isn't about the stuff, but rather about not being 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.400 able to get back to that first thing that piled up. Right, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:29.440 you just. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:30.640 Described my whole life. 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:36.760 Yeah, many people's lives, my life, My life included. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:43.760 Literally the thing is. So let's just say, like you said, 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.080 a travel expo bag, let's say a gift bag for instance, 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.600 Like I am part of the iHeart family. That's where 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.039 my podcast lives. Like the last iHeart event I went to, 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.320 there is a gift bag and people gave amazing things 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:04.679 and everything. That gift is still here. Yeah, that gift 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.599 bag is still on, like you said, a table, and 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.720 I think about it every day. I walk by and 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.720 I'm like, oh man, I got to sort through that 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.800 gift bag. I remember my friend wanted this piece from it. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.440 I was going to give this thing to my daughter. Okay, 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.000 I'll get to that later because life doesn't stop. And 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.480 then yes, yeah, yeah, and the priorities of it all 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:30.480 of course. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.360 Yeah, And here's what I got from the at least 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.640 the podcast that I listen, you know, to prior this 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.120 is that you do have your priorities in order. Your 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.360 kids are your priorities. I totally get it. And I 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:46.160 also heard that you are up to taking care of yourself. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.400 So I don't care how much clutter you have, you 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.520 or anybody else. Yeah, as long as those priorities are 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.640 in place. So it's when the clutter is getting in 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.840 the way of things, oh hey, let's deal with it. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.280 And for me, Torri, when I look at sort of 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.840 people who have a lot of clutter and a lot 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.640 of projects going on, I like to look and say, really, 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.480 maybe it's the infrastructure that's missing. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:17.160 Okay. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.400 I think it's not all about the clutter. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:21.000 Okay. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.600 So if it's the infrastructure you mentioned, just the simple 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:32.280 task of putting away putting things away, like you didn't 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.160 get a chance to do that, right or. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:42.640 There's also no room to put it away, So it 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.000 does like I think we probably all deal with this. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:54.000 You know, I have five kids. We are stopped up. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:09:01.840 We like we don't have a pantry, which I'm not 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.720 like boohoomy, but I do have five kids, and that 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.600 is one of the things when I was renting this 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.160 house I didn't think about. I didn't think you know, 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.439 the kids were like, oh my gosh, this is great. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.640 These bedrooms are amazing, the backyard's great, we have a pool. Everything. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.400 It was like, yes, here's a kitchen, there's a den 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.600 off shooting the kitchen so you guys can hang out, 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.760 I can cook, Like those are the things keeping the 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:33.280 family together. That's very important to me. And it wasn't 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.920 until after we moved in and Ruthanne was here and 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.000 helping me put things away that were like, oh, shoot, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.800 there's a few cabinets under the kitchen counter. There's no 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:46.120 actual like pantry, remember reason Yeah, And I was like, shoot, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.320 I didn't even think of that. And another thing like 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:54.199 I do have a lot of clothing. I have gotten 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.560 rid of a lot of clothing over the years, but 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:02.000 moving into this house, clothing did come with me. And 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.600 I also was like, oh, shoot, this house doesn't have 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:13.720 a closet. Yeah, this slighting door, but like yeah, yeah stuff, yeah, 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:18.880 well if I may just yeah, booo problems. But I'm 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.960 just so it's like going back to this one gift bag. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.200 Not only do I mean to sort through it and 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.920 give the things to the people that I think would 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.080 like it or keep for myself, I also don't have 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.360 the room, so anything that comes in, And I don't know, 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.480 are we all still supposed to go about that whole 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.920 old notion of if one thing comes in, one thing 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:41.760 goes out? Are we still are we supposed to live 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.320 by that still? 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.640 Well, if it works for you, okay, it has to 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:51.040 work for the person. Just because that kind of mantra 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.720 is out there doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.840 for this this this person, right, And how can you 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.800 even keep track of this little you know over here 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.480 compared to what else is there. You know, if you're 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.760 looking brick to get rid of a fair amount of stuff, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.120 then it really just requires a team to come in 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:16.320 and have you or this supplas to anybody, right, You 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.160 just have a team that comes in and lays it 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:23.679 all out, like with like lotions with lotions, gift bags 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.400 with gift bags, electronics and chords over here. You know, 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.160 that's how it goes. Kitchen stuff over here, stuff that 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.480 belongs in an office over here. And then I say, okay, 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.800 or let's just look at all these gift bags, and 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.200 you're gonna be okay that I'd like to the whole 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.640 Let's just make a bag for this friend and this 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.359 friend and this family member and denat. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:46.599 I'd like to. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.920 And then we do that, that little section is boom. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.079 So then we go to the electrical cords and we say, okay, yeah, yeah, 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.960 I definitely have duplicates here. I can get rid of 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.640 three of these cords. They're all the same. So when 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.480 you see all those items or suitcases and luggage, those 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.640 are bags, line them all up and that's when they're 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.240 all together, it's easier to make the decision and you 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.760 just go boom, boom, boom. And then we have runners 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.400 taking those things to where they're supposed to go back 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:22.120 up to the kids room, out to the garage, give away. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.720 To out of the house, gone, out of the house, gone, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.360 I was saying last night we were on the phone. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.920 I was like, no, no, no, you guys really aren't 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:36.720 hearing me. Anything that is not living and breathing in 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.320 the house. Let's give it away. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.120 See and can you can I can sense this, and 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.040 can you see for yourself you're in the right frame 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:48.640 of mind. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:53.839 Yes, oh yeah, yeah, yes project, yes, yes, yeah yeah. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.960 And I remember, like my friend Amy was saying, like, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.680 but you used to hold on to this. I was like, yes, 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:05.079 I used to, but I went through so much personally 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.880 in the last you know, three years the family. You know, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.560 we went through a lot of changes, emotionally, physically, all 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:17.640 of it. And now I can't even imagine being like, 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.679 oh my god, I'm so emotionally attached to that, Like 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.959 that doesn't really even come up. You know. I have 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.680 my kids' photos, art projects when they're young, like I 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.920 have that stuff that means something, something they can pass on, 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.520 so there's a legacy. I know those things were important 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.720 to me, Like the couple things I have from my dad, Like, 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:39.440 I want to give them that to pass down. But 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.320 other than that, anything that's coming here that's new, that 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.439 doesn't mean things of the family. I'm like, great, let's 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.240 donate it to someone who needs it. But I physically 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.360 don't have that man power. Why do they call it 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.800 man power? It should be women power. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.360 It should be woman power. You're right, it just comes 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.880 off the tongue that way for so many of us. 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.160 But you know, when it does come to stuff and 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.880 smaller things and details, it is more female, if you will, 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:13.559 you know, those little detailed things. So maybe we'll change 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:14.480 it to woman power. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:19.360 Woman power. Yes, I just honestly, I just need the 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.200 physical help transporting it. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.680 Yeah. And there's another thing too, when it comes to 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.240 stuff and clutter, some of us are hard wired for it. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.680 It's in the you know, front of our brain here, 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.480 wired for organizing. You know, I was a gymnast growing up, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:42.400 so everything was repeated and done over and over again. Right, 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.880 And in your world, I'm imagining I could be wrong, 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:50.560 But in your world, I'm imagining you're a creative person. Right. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.360 So we've got left brain, right brain create. You know, 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:58.040 right brain is creative. Are our right brain creative and 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:03.240 left is analytical ll. So you know, if you're more 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.120 of a creative type. So many people thrive. If you 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.680 think about artists, they thrive on having just a little 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.000 bit of chaos, so or we could call it inspiration. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:22.120 You know, that's what makes a creative mind creative. So 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.440 I don't know if that's your situation or not. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:33.000 Definitely, organically, my brain doesn't go to organizing, it doesn't 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.880 go to using something and then putting it back. My 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.320 brain's like, go go, go, go, go onto the next 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:43.080 thing fast. We got to cram everything in time management. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:49.720 Working on it never been my strong suit. Yeah, And 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.840 I you know, I can recall a time in my 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:58.520 life when I was married and when the kids were 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:03.920 younger and I was able at the time to have 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:11.880 a lot of support around raising and kind of managing 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:16.480 my village, and I did thrive. I did thrive. So 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:21.240 it's just in my mind, I'm like, I've always thrived creatively, 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.640 it's just right now, so I know I've had it before. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.760 It's not like, you know, I had people working with 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.080 me and I was like no, no, no, Like I 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.280 was happy when people could help organize me or help 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.760 me with pickups and drop offs and all of that. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:43.320 So I definitely thrived on having people assist me even 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.520 though I won't ask for help. So yeah, I just 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:48.720 would like to get back to that, and I think 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.720 it would really start just It's interesting after we did 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.920 the podcast last week, a lot of people are reaching 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.600 out to me on DMS and instant Messenger and you know, 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.920 all of that, saying, oh my gosh, if I lived closer, 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.000 I'd come help you. I'd come help you. And I'm 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.080 just like, Hey, any friends out there want to come 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.600 over and help I mean, ruth Anne has offers all 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.600 the time, but we're usually working. We produce together as well, 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.280 so we have so many other projects besides the podcast, 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.920 so we're running to meetings and on our TV shows 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.679 and doing it like we're doing all of that. But 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.680 she's like, if we have a second, I will help you. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.159 So yeah, if I have any friends out there that 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.879 live in the area that are actually listening to my podcast, 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:34.440 just come over and help me, please. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.240 But I want to say I do want to say 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.480 something about that because even though I find and I 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.400 wonder if this is a thing that it's much easier 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:49.040 for me to go and help like declutter or help organize, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:53.280 or just in general help somebody else as opposed to myself. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.280 So like I'll say to you, Tori, oh, I'll come. 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.399 Over and we can go through the gifts and whatever. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:17:59.680 And meanwhile they'll be like a. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:06.399 Dack of papers or something I haven't unpacked, or you know, 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.960 laundry that I haven't dealt with, and it's like, oh, 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.280 I'm going to just turn my back on that and 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.000 go run and deal with somebody else's stuff because somehow 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.960 that's easier. I don't know if that, Dorothy, is it 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.800 a common thing or that's just me? 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.200 Yeah, yeah, I think I think you know you, all 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:24.959 of you have come up with a lot of the 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:29.880 answers already. Now it's just how do we make it happen? Right, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.600 You've talked about the possibilities, and you know you're interested 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.960 in kind of making it happen. So the first thing 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.560 is to I don't care how far out it is, Tori, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.399 but if you can calendar one day of organizing, not 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.719 just an hour, but a day where you do have 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.680 a crew, and whether it's me and some of your 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.720 fans and all of us come in great, I'll lead 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.320 the team and we will sort and we will put things. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.920 Can I film? That'd be fun TV show? 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.159 Wouldn't that be kind of fun to do? 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.760 Look at me? I'm like, okay, now my producer brain's 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.639 here again. Wait, let's film it. No, I'm just kidding. 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.920 But can you see that's the creative side, and that's 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.480 the other project right and and there it goes, and 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:18.640 that that's no mistake. That's in your DNA. That creativity. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.080 We want to hold on to that. And how do 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.160 you be organized and creative altogether in one? 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:24.840 Yes? 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.080 Please? And so if I were there with you, I 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.560 would say, here's what we should do. Let's talk about 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.560 a brain domp. Because it's I mentioned it once. I'm 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:36.560 going to mention it again. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:44.960 You brand deal brain don't. Oh sorry you said brain 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:53.320 dump and my brain heard brand deal on brand comes 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:54.320 from the brain dump. 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:01.320 It's the misspelling that happened right there. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.399 Good happen. I'm ready, yeah. 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.000 But what happens is again, it's not the stuff that 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:14.000 we're talking about. And this is for anybody. What's going 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:18.520 underneath is what we want to talk about. And if 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.919 you have you know these thoughts. Oh, I wish I 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.720 had some help, Okay, I you know, I have this 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.800 project over here. I need to do this podcast. Oh 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.119 my kid has some sort of you know, production that 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.960 I need to attend. All these things going on, I'd 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.720 want to try that recipe. I've got that swag bag. 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.160 I've got to handle. These are just little things. You've 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.280 got so much more. I know this, But we want 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.360 to dump all that literally onto a piece of paper. 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.480 Or you have your chat. I know you have a 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:49.639 name for your little. 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.560 Chat, Mona my chat, yeah Tea. 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.720 You can download to Mona or brain dump to Mona. 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:59.840 But it's getting all those items chunked together, you know, 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:07.200 and prioritizing all of your projects and your thoughts. Because 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.800 once those are prioritized. If organizing is way up on 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.359 the list, then it's going to happen faster. If it's not, 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.560 if you've got other projects, it's still going to stay lower. 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:22.920 So picking a date, okay, picking a date like it's 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:27.320 a vacation, like it is, you know, a kid's graduation day, 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:31.520 you're not going to miss. That's where it happens. That's 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.800 when it happens for anyone. 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:46.400 Interesting That all makes sense for me personally. What really 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:51.119 stood out there for me is that I don't write 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:51.760 things down. 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:56.160 Oh okay, tell me about that. 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.080 Yes, let's talk about that, because that interests me all 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.680 the time because I know it's connected to something that 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:07.520 component of my brain. It's almost a challenge for myself, 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.440 Like I I could just take out a piece of 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:14.560 paper and literally write down the things I have to do. 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:21.080 I could literally write down I only recently, like, for instance, 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.480 I've written six books. And before there was the iPhone, 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.440 there was the BlackBerry, which no longer exists. But I've 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.240 been writing books since I believe it was two thousand 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:35.560 and eight or two thousand and seven. So I used 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:41.919 to write them on my BlackBerry and people would be like, 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.960 do you have a computer, And I was like, yeah, 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:47.960 well where's it? I don't know. I'm under that pile 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:52.360 over there. No, I'm just kidding, but yeah, I'd be like, oh, yeah, 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.880 I have a computer. I've never learned to use a computer. 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.439 And then I remembered because they'd be like, why do that? 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:02.399 Seems so much harder to do everything like this, And 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.119 it was harder, but it was like I thrived on 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:09.360 it being harder. And then I remembered a story that 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:14.280 my dad used to write all of his shows on 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:21.639 a legal notepad, and before that he has he had 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.000 an old school typewriter which I have that my mom 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.600 gave to me when he passed. But you know, and 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.080 they kept trying to update him and say, you know, 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:31.920 this will be easier. Let us teach you how to 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.159 use the computer to and he like was no, no, no, no, 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.879 it's like a refusal. And I was like, oh my god, 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.639 my brain is kind of the same. Not that this 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:43.399 makes sense or is correct, but it was only until 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:47.080 ruth Anne knows this only into what this this past 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.480 year ruth An that I actually put things down in 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:53.359 a calendar in my phone. Yeah, and that was the 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:58.159 game changer. Ish this a crazy part is and I 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:05.880 stand by this. I remember everything so like we could 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.840 talk about a date here and whereas anyone else would 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.200 be like, oh, let me look at my calendar, let. 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:11.720 Me look it up. 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.040 I could tell you what date it's happening and what 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.800