1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Gary Downing 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: today I'm with Clifton Brown and we are so excited 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: to sit down with Anthony Levigne, the Ravens new special 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: teams coordinator in in Baltimore a long time. And Anthony, 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: when you were a player, it was co cap, Okay, 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: then it kind of became coach. Now it's coordinator. We 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: have a new nickname here, like cocat what what? What's 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: the new nickname here? What's two point zero version? 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: Man? To be honest, I have no idea just because 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: I didn't come up. I didn't come up with none 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: of those nicknames, you know, I didn't come up with cocapp. 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: Cocapp was given to me, well everybody, no, one of 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: my teammates, Alba McClelland, and so it just kind of happened. 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: But like as it evolved, like co cap means like 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: the leader. Yeah, Like I don't know if people people 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: don't really understand that, but that's really how it came from. 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, you're the you and the genesis. 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Basically if people don't know, is you and Albert mccleoll 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: with basically the two captains of the Special Teams unit. 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: And then then you continue that even after McLean was 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: done and the co Cap just stuck and and you're right, 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: like that has become synonymous with the leader of the 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Special Teams group. 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: Co Cap mean the leader, like me the boss, that's 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: co co Coup the leader, you know. But nah, Man, honestly, 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: just giving that nickname, it was it was as an honor, 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: you know, so that I wear that. I wear that 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: nickname as an honor, as a badge, like as a 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: respect for my teammates, you know. So having that and 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: when when people give you a nickname, that's how you 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: know they like you. And you don't have no nickname, Like, 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: don't get nickname, I don't like you like that, you 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So, so, yeah, Man, when your 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: when your teammates consider you, when when the people elect 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: you to be the leader, like I mean that, that 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: speaks for itself. 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 4: You obviously have made a quick and successful transition from 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: player to coach. Not all players can do that, even 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: good players. Why do you think you've been able to 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: switch hats so quickly from player, great player to successful coach? 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: Man, It started with my upbringing. It started with my 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: upbringing from my mother to my father, you know, just 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: the discipline they instilled in me, you know, watching them, 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: watching my mother work multiple jobs, watching my dad work 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: multiple jobs. You know, my mom trying to come to 46 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: my games, my dad working all nighters, you know, working 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: all day. And then next thing, you know, I see 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: them in the stands in my high school football game, 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: you know, and the same thing from college, Like they're 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: working so much, working so much, and they always found 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: a way to make it to support me, you know, 52 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: and growing up seeing them, seeing them worth ethic and 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: they you know, the discipline and day that they had, 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: and they insteads in their kids, you know. And so 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: that's really where it started. And then make a long 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: story short, when I went to retire and I went 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: down South and talk with Eric, the conversation that me 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: and him had, you know, just about the work that's 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: going to take to get to where I'm at today. 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: You know, when we had a real thorough conversation and 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: he didn't hold nothing back, like this is what's gonna 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: consist of. Is this something you really want to do 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: Because a lot of people say they want to do that, 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: but it's like you really got to be ready to 65 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: do that. And I'm like, hey, man, I'm ready to 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: do that. And I went into what I just said 67 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: about my parents and then he was all right, he's okay. 68 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: And then. 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: I started as a scout, as a scouting assistant, you know. 70 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: So I did that for a year and I did 71 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: everything those guys did everything those guys did. I stayed 72 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: up late just like they did. Like, so it wasn't 73 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: like all my I just got done playing, I should 74 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: be here. Nah, I got done playing, and I started 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: right at the beginning, you know. So I worked my 76 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 2: way up. So I know people say it was quick, yes, quick, 77 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: probably in a big scheme, but to me, it wasn't quick. 78 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: You know, those late nights on getting all those reports in. Yes, man, 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: that's a lot, you know. So and the great thing, 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 2: you know, meet me being able to see what those 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: guys you know, do and see how rich to make 82 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: this organization work. Like man, this is an eye opener. 83 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: So mant's to ask your question is just, man, my dedication, 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: my hard work, just you know, stemming from my upbringing 85 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: for real. 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: So Anthony, go take us to the process this offseason. 87 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Obviously it's changed, and uh, the Ravens move on from 88 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: John Hardball, and then a few weeks go by and 89 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: Jesse Minzer comes in as the new head coach. 90 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: And in that whole period, things are up in the air. 91 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: You don't know exactly what's going to happen. 92 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: You don't know who the next head coach is going 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: to be, and for you and the other coaches, there's 94 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty about what the future holds. The 95 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: Ravens hire jesse mentor you know him. He coached you 96 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: when you were a player, and and then ultimately you 97 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: end up getting the job as special teams coordinator. What 98 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: was that process like and what were the conversations like 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: with jess she and Eric before you ultimately ended up 100 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: becoming the special teams coach. 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: Having having conversations with Eric, it wasn't you know, it 102 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: was all positive, you know, because I told him like 103 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: I told him, I told Sah, I told IZI I 104 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: told him like, man, I'm a Raven. I don't want 105 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: to leave like I don't. I don't want to go nowhere, 106 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: you know, like this, like this organization just helped me 107 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: so much in my life, you know, provided everything that 108 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: I needed, you know, watch me grow up and when 109 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: everything went down, you know, I was it was. It 110 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: was it was different, like like something that I told 111 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: he didn't expect. And but just me being in contact 112 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: with II, talking with Sash and talking talking with Eric, 113 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: and I just letting him know where I stand, like, man, 114 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: look I'm a raven and this is what I want 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: to do. So we always had positive conversations. It was 116 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: never a conversation to where it was like you're going 117 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: to be the special teams coordinator. But it was always 118 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: conversations like you're going to have an opportunity to sit 119 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: in front of whoever it may be and let them 120 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: see your greatness just like we see your greatness, you know, 121 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: And that's all I want. It all ever wanted, even 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: as a player, was an opportunity. That's give me an opportunity. 123 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: And that's the hard the conversation with y'are You're gonna 124 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: have an opportunity because what we see in you, but 125 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: we want the nets whoever nets Head coach to be, 126 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: to see that in you as well. We can't just 127 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: make them take you like we want we want and 128 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: that's all I wanted. All I wanted was, man, this 129 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 2: giving out. You put me in front of anybody, mister Cliff. 130 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Now you know what I'm saying. Just give me an 131 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: opportunity you feel. Put me in front of anybody, Put 132 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: me in front of any situation, if that's the opportunity. 133 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: If there's something I want to do. All I want 134 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: is opportunity, you know what I'm saying. And I was like, man, 135 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: you're giving that opportunity. That's all I can ask for. 136 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: I don't want nothing else, you know what I'm saying. 137 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: And that's what it was. So when they gave me, 138 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: when they told me that, I was like, all right, 139 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: all right, bet let's do it, you know. And then 140 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: I had Then I had other opportunities to interview at 141 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: other places, you know, and that helped me as well 142 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: through the interview process, you know. So interviewing with Temple, 143 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: that helped me to prepare for my interview with Jesse, 144 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: you know. So I'm doing that over his own with Temple. 145 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: And then when I get with Jesse and me and 146 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: Jesse we having the conversation and we having a great conversation. 147 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: Now again, mister clik, and you know y'all give me 148 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: from anybody. I could talk now like I get to talking. 149 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: I was sitting there and just was like, all right, man, 150 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: all that sounded good. Let's go Let's go watchaw film. 151 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: Let me see how you was in the film. Oh. 152 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: When I get in front of that film now and 153 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: I get to coach in ball, that's when I really 154 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: turned into you know. So man, I got in there 155 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: and I started with the clicker and I started doing 156 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: my thing, and you could tell Jesse was just like, 157 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: you know my energy, man, like you know, my passion, 158 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: my passion for this phase of the phase of the game. 159 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, So that that process, man, I was in 160 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: communication with him just about gett getting an opportunity. And 161 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: then when I got the opportunity, you know, I feel like, 162 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: well I did a good job. So that's why I'm 163 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: here now. Now. 164 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 4: I know you're a great communicator as people already then 165 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: because I remember conversations that I've had with you over 166 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: the years. 167 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: So I want to bring up two one. 168 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: I think I remember you telling me that when you 169 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: were a player, you hardly ever took vacations during the 170 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: off season because you were afraid that while you were vacationing, 171 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: somebody might be outworking you. Is that true, and just 172 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: tell people. 173 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: That that's one hundred that's one hundred percentral I didn't 174 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: take my first I didn't take my first vacation. So 175 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 2: I got in the league in two thousand and nine. 176 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: I didn't take my first vacation until twenty eighteen, and 177 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: that was that was when I took my family to Disney. 178 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: That was that was the first. That was my first 179 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: vacation that ever did. Because of what you said, like, 180 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: but it you know, I was, I was a tryout. Yes, 181 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: I was a tryout, and then so I didn't have 182 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: I didn't have anything. So it was just like for 183 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: me being a tryout, just like, man, that's why I'm 184 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: so grateful for that is man, you know, because it's 185 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: really humble beginnings. Like you know, people say that and 186 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: it kind of gets sprinkled down, But where I come 187 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: from and how my journey has been has really been 188 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: a humble beginnings, you know. So for me being a tryout, 189 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: like I went try out for a team that drafted 190 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: a safety in the third round, that had a safety 191 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: and free agent that that that they was about to pay. 192 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: And again all I said was, man, it's give me 193 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: an opportunity. That's all I asked, Like y'all don't have 194 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: to sign me or nothing. Just put me this, give 195 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: me an opportunity. And again you give you, give me 196 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: an opportunity. I'm gonna take full advantage of it. But 197 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 2: as far as me taking a vacation now, because I 198 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 2: always had that that that grind and that mentality of 199 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: I'm not going let nobody out work me, you know so, 200 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: and I always felt like it. Not again. They come 201 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: from high school, come from my dad. Like my dad 202 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: told me one time that hard work beats ability to 203 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 2: out of ten times. Now he said, I said it 204 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: out of ten times, and he said, now, ability may 205 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: win now, but a parent, eventually, Hall, we're gonna beat ability. 206 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: And that just stuck on me, you know so. And 207 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: then my trainer, my trainer was always on me. So 208 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: it was just like now we gotta work now. 209 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: The second one story I remember with you is I 210 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: think you told me that you know you're undrafted. Our 211 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: Tennessee stayed. A teammate goes to another team and tries 212 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: a former teammate. Tennessee State goes through maybe rookie Camp 213 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 4: comes back and tells you, look, you're better than some 214 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: guys that I've been practicing against. All my offspring you 215 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: need to get yourself in shape and try and try 216 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 4: out for somebody. You were like, oh maybe, you know maybe, 217 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: and then you're like, i'll pay No, I'll pay for 218 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: the training. We'll train together. And then you went and 219 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 4: made the team with the package? Is that tell me 220 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 4: about that? 221 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: All right? So that that story is almost one hundred 222 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: percent true. Okay, so the story is the guy that 223 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: you're talking about is Dominic Rogers Commodi. Okay, he went 224 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: first round. Yes, so when he went first round, he 225 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: plays have a hell of a heck of a rookie season, 226 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Like he's probably one of them besides like al besides quarterback, 227 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: like l Man, he's probably one of the freakish athletes 228 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: ever been around in my life, like the stuff that 229 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: I see him do. Anyway, he get drafted first round 230 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: and then after the season he comes back. Okay, and 231 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: you know we we you know we at Tennessee State 232 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 2: this you know we sold food on Fridays. You know what, 233 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: we got fish Fridays. 234 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: You know. 235 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: So he come back I think there by a week 236 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: and you know, we were at the facility, all the 237 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: cab were hanging out and Dominique comes he comes right 238 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: in like hey, man, you could play in the league. 239 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: And I'm like, what, I'm turning, you can play in 240 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: the league, like you bettering all these people that I 241 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: play with like trust me. Like I'm like, all right, 242 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: bet as, I look, wherever you want the train, wherever 243 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: you want to go, I'll pay for it. And I'm 244 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: like what He's like, I'm telling you because you can 245 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: do it, mean you can do it. Yeah, I pay 246 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 2: for it. And I was like, man, I appreciate it. 247 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: But again, I never want nobody. I don't want nobody 248 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: just to be doing stuff for me. But again, he 249 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: believed that he believed in me that much and I 250 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: appreciate him for that, and I appreciate him for that. 251 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: So but yeah, that's that's how that's how it got. 252 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, come on the fact that you remember that 253 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: you got a memory of an elephant. 254 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: Cliff forgets nothing, man, nothing. So so as a player, 255 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: you go to the Packers and you come to Baltimore. 256 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: You have a long, long career and Baltimore as a player, 257 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: and something that that always stood out to me about 258 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: you as a player, and now you have to take 259 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: this mentalities into the coaching world, is you embrace special 260 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: teams like you were like, I think some guys come 261 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: out of college and they're not really that excited necessarily 262 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: about special teams. They didn't play it that much. Where 263 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: you were the opposite. We're like, this is my path, 264 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: this is my way to stay in the league. This 265 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: is the opportunity for me to make a name for myself. 266 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: How did you embrace that mentality? And now it was 267 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: a coach, how do you try to get that from 268 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: your players? 269 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: It's the culture. It's the culture. So when I when 270 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: I came into the when I came into this organization 271 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: and I walked into that locker room, man, the culture 272 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: in there is it's impressive, you know. And having guys 273 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 2: we had leaders that that saw things in me, you know, 274 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: like uh Jay z Hedy bowl Ba Sean Concert, Ladarius Well, 275 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 2: Eric Weddle. But Aaron Retta wasn't there then, But I 276 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: had I had real special teams, guys like Corey Graham. 277 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 2: I had all those guys that was there. And then 278 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: when they left that next year, going to twenty thirteen, 279 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: we in training camp and I run down as a 280 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: pp and I make a tackle and Sam Cook comes 281 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: up to me after the game and he's like, oh no, no. 282 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: He comes to me in the weight room and he 283 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: walks up to me and said, man, if you could 284 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: do that every game, you're playing this lead for a 285 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: very long time. And I looked at him like what 286 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: he was like, Man, I'm telling you. He said, men, 287 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: you physical, You fascinate for you to run down there 288 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: and make a play like that. He said, if you could, 289 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: if you could do that, you can play in this 290 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: league for a long time. And right then's was like, Okay, 291 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: that's what I gotta do. So I just kind of 292 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: I just kind of just ran with it. And then yeah, 293 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: I just kind of ran with it. So I always 294 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: had guys that are that'll say certain things to you 295 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: and it always stick with you, you know. So, so 296 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: being being around being around those guys that embraced SPUs 297 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: teams and like it was like playing makers on SPUC 298 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: teams that went to Pro Bowls on spused teams. That's 299 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: kind of like you start looking around and you start 300 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: asking again. I come from Tennessee State where I wore 301 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: the same clacks for a whole year and a half, 302 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: and then I come into the league and it's like, man, 303 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: switch those cleats off. After two days. You know what 304 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, it's totally different, Like the mindset is 305 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: totally different. So a lot of things I had to ask, 306 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: and one thing about me. I want to get better. 307 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask if it's something that you're doing 308 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: that can help me, I'm gonna ask. So always always 309 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: seek the information as far as that you know. So 310 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: I always talk to those guys like when Brandon Carr 311 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: came to Lead or came to the Ravens. I mean, 312 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: how you wait so long? Like how you don't miss 313 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: no game? 314 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: What you do? 315 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: You know? So I ask those type of questions. Then, man, 316 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: once I do that and they tell me what they do, 317 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: I may take a stuff from them that's added to 318 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: whatever I have going on when. 319 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: We walk on out into the practice field. When I 320 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 4: walk out, I don't have to look for where you 321 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: are too long. Like I hear you, I see you. 322 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: You're a demonstrative, vocal, hands on coach. I know that's 323 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: your personality, but is that such something like Hey, I'm 324 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: just gonna bring that to every guy and they've got 325 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: to either raise their energy to me or are there 326 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: certain guys who okay if I get on him, he 327 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: may not respond the way I want in a certain way, 328 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: And I'm just curious because I know you'll tell guys 329 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: what you want and yeah, it's like straight, you know. 330 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: So I'm just wondering if does everybody if respond to 331 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: you like that positive or do you have to learn 332 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: the personalities and then kind of taper your style. 333 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: Well, every everybody don't. Everybody doesn't learn the same way 334 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: and everybody everybody's not motivated by the same thing. So yeah, 335 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: I have a lot of energy, I have a lot 336 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: of passion, and I love this face of the game. 337 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: But when I do that, it's done as needed. Like 338 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: it's not like it's not like I'm doing that all 339 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: the time like I am, but it's it's the way 340 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: you do it and how you do it, you know 341 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's like, when I'm out there, 342 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: it's be some days where me and this player not money, 343 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: my money in my own you know, I'm if I'm 344 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: finding him up, but then the next day I may 345 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: not because he's doing exactly what I need him to do. 346 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: He's working hard, you know, He's doing everything I needed 347 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: to do, So that day is like okay, but I'm 348 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: still my passion is still going, but now my passion 349 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: is shifted in another direction, like and I was like, yeah, 350 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: like that is that definite I'm talking about. That's what 351 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Yeah see, and I'm tapping them up 352 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: now we dumping up it down. Now it's a whole 353 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: different type of passion. And you know, well then it's 354 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 2: like or if he's not doing And I was like, man, 355 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 2: you know that's not what we do. You know, if 356 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: you want to do this on Sunday, you know, this 357 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: is how I gotta be done. Like what are you 358 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: doing that? What's this right here? Like come on, you 359 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: know what, go grab my cleats? You know what I'm saying. 360 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: And now it's like all right, let's go. Now Now 361 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: what I did was now I just raised the I 362 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: just raised the bar. So now I was like, okay, 363 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: we goot to do this together. Now I'm about to 364 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: getting here with it. Now I'm about to Now I'm 365 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: about to take the timp trump a little bit. Now 366 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: once I take the timp trump a little bit, now 367 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: he take the temperatub. Because you want to know why 368 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: these are these guys are competitive and what they're not 369 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: gonna do it they're not going back down from no 370 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: competition so soon as you know. But again, you don't 371 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: know what these guys going through on a daily It's like, 372 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes a guy the something happened to these 373 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 2: guys off off the field, and you know where they 374 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: where they have to deal with in their household and 375 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: sometimes they're thinking about that and when they come on 376 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 2: to the fields, like sometimes you see it, sometimes you don't, 377 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: but then you pick it up as you go. Man, 378 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: what's wrong? What you got going on? What you got 379 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: going on? You know? And then now it's like, oh, 380 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 2: hold on, okay, look, hey, you do this right here 381 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 2: and let me talk to him real quick. You are right, 382 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: and then it's you know what I'm saying. So it's 383 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: just like my path, like my passion gon go. But 384 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: it's like you got to be able to read and 385 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: got to be able to you gotta be able to 386 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: know when to use it. And I can't do it 387 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: all the time, but it's like it's as needed, like 388 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: my energy it goes, but my energy gonna always be there. 389 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: It's just the way I am. But it's just like 390 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: it just depends on where it's shifted that you know 391 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I'm not always just fire somebody 392 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: to fire somebody up. You know. It's now it's like, 393 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: oh that's you know, and now we you know. So 394 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: it's just it's different and and it's a it's a 395 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: it's like a move like you can you can you 396 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: can tell when the shifts, when the move shift, and 397 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: now I got a shift, you know. So it's just 398 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: like some some guys respond well sometimes go Sometimes guys 399 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: don't respond as well. But you gotta know when and how. Okay, 400 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: he not responding to this. Okay, I'm not gonna do this, 401 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's just it's just 402 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: it's different. But they know they know when I say 403 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: go get my cleats. Like one time, one time, one time, 404 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: I'm getting on them in the MEI and I'm getting 405 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: on them in the media right after practice they did something. 406 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: But it wasn't it wasn't up to high standard, like 407 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, we don't do this, you know, but again 408 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't got on them so much. It 409 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: was like okay, I can't just I can't keep getting 410 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: on them. I can't keep getting on them. So we 411 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 2: getting when we get in the meeting. I put up. 412 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: I put up in the meeting, were talking and I 413 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: turn around like get fired up. I said, come on 414 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: there with that same ins today. I'm gonna have my 415 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: c song come out there and do that today. Why 416 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: watch is gonna happen? Right man? So we come out there, 417 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: but I didn't have my clee. So on right man, 418 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: as soon as they're also walking up where your clee? 419 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: Said coach, because where your at? No, hey, Jordan, go 420 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: get his cleee, Jordan, go get his clee. Jordan. 421 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: He said that. 422 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: He he said this, this is what we're gonna do. 423 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: Go put your cleees on, you know. So now they're like, nah, coach, 424 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: you said he's gonna do it. Let's go. You're talking 425 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: all that to me and nah, we about to find 426 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: out here today, right? But you know what I tell him? 427 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: I said, Man, why I got to go grab my 428 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: cleats for y'all that have as much energy? 429 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: Man? 430 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But again, sometimes you gotta 431 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: put it all of them. You know, they want it 432 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: like they want like they man, they want to come 433 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: in and they want to work hard, you know. But again, 434 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: sometimes sometimes you don't know what guys are going through, 435 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And it's like they're going 436 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: through stuff and it's just like, man, I don't have today. 437 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: Now you have it, I gotta go. I gotta go 438 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: find where it's at and put it out of you, 439 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And once I do that, 440 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: once I get to I get the hold on. No, 441 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: that's not it. Nope, that that ain't the button. That 442 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: ain't the button. Oh that's the button. Yep, got it. 443 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: Now I got him. Not that's the button right there. 444 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Now poking that button. Not 445 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: poking that button. Noah, I got it. Not gotten going. 446 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: And whatever slump he was in, now I got him 447 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: out of it, you know what I'm saying. So it 448 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: just it's just a ways of you just gotta find it. 449 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: Good special teams play. We're just we've become accustomed to 450 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: it in Baltimore. Obviously, John Harball is a special teams coach, 451 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: and that was kind of part of the culture like 452 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: you talked about, And it's just like it's valued within 453 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens organization. I can't speak for all thirty two teams, 454 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: but it seems like the value that the Ravens plays 455 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: on special teams is at an elevated level compared to 456 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: a number of teams from the league. And that's just 457 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: the expectation is that it's going to be a good 458 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: special teams unit, going to be good kick kicking game, 459 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: good playing game, good. 460 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: Special teams across the board. 461 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: So as you move into this role, like what do 462 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: you see as your your vision and expectations for what 463 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: this group's going to be. 464 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: Man, my vision is that we continue to hold a 465 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: standard that we set, you know, as as the coach 466 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: and as the players, we come up with the standard 467 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: and we set the standard. We marked that. Man, we're 468 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna be a team that's again that that 469 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: that will continue to be physical, be fast, be smart, 470 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: that plays on the edge, you know, and that guy 471 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: guys that has that that has that relentless play to him, 472 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: that has that grit, that that that grind. You know, 473 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: that mentality really and when it comes down to spused teams, 474 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: you got to have a mentality of I want to 475 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 2: do this. You know, you have that want to We're 476 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: gonna take care of everything else. You know, the mistakes 477 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: you may make, We're gonna we can take care of that. 478 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: As long as you're playing. As long as you're playing, 479 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: as long as you're playing fast, as physical and physical, 480 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: we can take care of everything else. You know. I 481 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: can teach you everything else, you know, but you have 482 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: you have to have that mindset and you have to 483 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: have that want to so when it comes when it 484 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: comes to us on special teams, for us to be dominant, 485 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: we got to continue to to play on the edge, 486 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: not over the edge. You know. We want to play smart, 487 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: we want to play physical, we want to play aggressive. 488 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: We don't want to we don't want to be making 489 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: any silly penalties or anything like that. But we want 490 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: to win field position and we want to give our 491 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: team put our team in the best situation to win 492 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: the game, you know. So that's what we're gonna do. 493 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: Man. 494 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna make plays when we're gonna make hard hits, 495 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: and you know, we're gonna and we're gonna have some 496 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: excitement to our football team. 497 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 4: When you're looking at players at the combine, looking at film, Uh, 498 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 4: you talked about fast and physical, but what are some 499 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: when you're just analyzing film that you're looking for Because 500 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: a lot of these players who are drafted didn't play 501 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: a lot of special teams. Some did in cause some 502 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: did not. But what are you kind of looking for 503 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: when you're looking at tape and then when you get 504 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 4: to meet a player or seeing workout that you're saying, hey, 505 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: maybe he's got what it will help what could help 506 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: us on special teams? 507 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: They're fundamentals, since sending a guy that sending a god 508 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: can tackle, saying if God can get off a block, 509 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: you know, seeing saying if a god plays with extension, 510 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: you know, see if a god does a good job 511 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: playing with his eyes, see if he has good awareness, 512 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: you know, seees he plays with good leverage. 513 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: You know. 514 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: So it's a lot of things that coming to it. 515 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: You know, you can have all the bild in the world, 516 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: but now you don't strike people. Now you can't get 517 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: a block. You know, you fast, but you can't beat 518 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: the double team, you know, so or you're just all 519 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: the lack of the lack of want to you know, 520 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: like you can have all the laziness, like the It 521 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: gotta be consistent. You have to be consistent in what 522 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: you're doing. So that that's what I as I'm watching film, 523 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: I'm watching guys that again they can get off a 524 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: block that don't mind run through somebody's face that could 525 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: beat double teams or a guy that could Every time 526 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: you're going to get a single he wins. You know 527 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: that's because that that's important. There's a lot of single 528 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: blocking out there now and you can't be the single block. 529 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: But we got to talk. Matter of fact, you come 530 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: over here and say by me and mister Cliff, you 531 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: know you come over here, man, you come on this side. 532 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 2: You got to hop it on this interview with us. 533 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But it's just like, but 534 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: that that that's that's that's what I look for when 535 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: I'm watching film. And then how he respond Like how 536 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: how you respond to you? You just got blocked, You 537 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: just got to put on your back. How are you 538 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: about to respond the next play? I want to tell 539 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: how you respond and you respond like and you get 540 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: up and I don't seen nothing seen it guys, guys, 541 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: because you're not gonna win every single rep. You know, 542 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: I'm not about to sit up here and tell these 543 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: guys you gotta win every single rep. I don't never 544 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: want to see you get beat. I never want to 545 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: see nobody put you on your back. I mean come on, 546 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: you don't know me for a long time and then 547 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: made some place some place. You know what I'm saying. 548 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 2: You can't win them all. Man's hey, look, as long 549 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: as you play football, you will be beat, you know 550 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But it's how you respond, how you 551 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: gonna respond, you know, And that's and honestly, that's probably 552 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: one of the biggest things ever. You know, how you're 553 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: gonna respond. So it's just like when you see a 554 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: guy that that that that may not win that rep 555 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: or made, something may happen to him, and then the 556 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 2: next play you see how he how you get off 557 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: the spot, how you go attack, how he be aggressive, 558 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: and then he make it. Then he make the play. 559 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: That's somebody won my football team right there. That that 560 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: that's a that's a that's the type of mentality that 561 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: we want. Hm. 562 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: Last one for me, Anthony is is when the guys 563 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: get back in a couple of months here, it's going 564 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: to be before you know it. Just how would you 565 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: describe your level of excitement and enthusiasm and have players 566 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: back in the building as you guys begin working towards 567 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: this season. 568 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: Man, I'm getting y'all, y'all get me fired here. Y'all 569 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: get me fired though, right now? Can they need to 570 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: come back Tomorrow's go ahead? Man, you know, but man, 571 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: uh man, I'm excited. Man, I honestly now now I 572 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: understand well when I first started coaching, but more now, 573 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: more than ever, I understand when I coach used to say, Man, 574 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: I'm so glad to have you guys back in the 575 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: building because now now we can start talking football with 576 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: the players. You know, having the players around, that's what 577 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: that's what make us go. You know, that's why we here. 578 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: We here to coach football when the players not here, 579 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: like is you know, we're still going to with football. 580 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: We're still working on our schemes, We're still doing our 581 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: stuff and doing everything that we need to do to 582 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 2: prepare for them to come in. But it's like once 583 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: the players come around, Oh man, that's when that's when 584 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: I already get fired up, you know what I'm saying. 585 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: And but man, man, I'm I'm very excited, Like I 586 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: can't I can't wait to see those guys and you 587 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: know their reaction and you know, I've seen a couple 588 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: of them and uh, you know, they they excited. I'm excited. 589 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: So we all excited. So we're gonna be one excited 590 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing, We're gonna be one excited group, 591 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: now you know what I'm saying. But uh yeah, man, man, 592 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm man, I'm I'm very excited. You know, I just 593 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: have to I gotta I just gotta make sure that 594 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: stay calm and stay poised, you know, and and and 595 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: be a great leader because those guys gonna go as 596 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: their leader go. And that's what anything you know that 597 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: that's in life. You got a leader, You're gonna go 598 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: as your leader go. So I just gotta make sure 599 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: that you know, they know my excitement. They're gonna see 600 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: my excitement. But then nigga, they also they also see 601 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 2: me when I'm calm and I'm poised. So man, ask 602 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: your question. Man, I'm super excited. I can't wait to 603 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: have that first first Special Teams meet. You know. That's 604 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: gonna be my my first one actually, and I'm the 605 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: coordinated so I'm I'm excited for that. It's awesome. 606 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: Congratulations, We're excited to have you as the Special Teams 607 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: coordinator here. Now you're gonna do a great job with 608 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: these guys, and uh, well deserved opportunity. 609 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: For you and can't wait to see what what you 610 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: do with this group this year. 611 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Grey Man, thank you all for having 612 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 2: me man for sure, thank you appreciation mister cliff Man. Yes, so. 613 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back into the lounge. We're coming to you from 614 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: the Sea Geek Studio. We want to mention our partners 615 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: to DraftKings Sports Book. They are an official sports betting 616 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: partner of the Baltimore Ravens DraftKings Sportsbook. 617 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: The Crown is yours. 618 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: Well. 619 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: Really enjoyed sitting down with Levin. Uh, got a lot 620 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: of respect for him. And uh, you know that me 621 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: and Levine have one thing in common. We're big fans 622 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: of mister Cliff. That's that's the main thing here. We 623 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: are big fans of mister Cliff. So it's clear, you 624 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: know you guys, you guys are buddies. 625 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 4: Yes, uh, some players you connect with, you try to 626 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: connect with everybody, but you know, just a natural thing 627 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: sometime where personalities click. And yeah, Levine's been here for 628 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 4: a long time as a player, and yes, we just 629 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: got to know each other very well. I have a 630 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: lot of respect for him. But he's easy to interview. 631 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 4: The energy that he brings to a room is contagious. 632 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: You know, some people bring energy, but it doesn't affect 633 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: other people. The energy he brings affects everybody in the room, 634 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: and I think that's one of his gifts as a coach. 635 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: And so, yeah, when he walks into a team meeting room, 636 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: it's almost like he should have his own theme music 637 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: or something like watching Denzel watch It, like when you 638 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: hear the music, Oh, something about to happen here. That's 639 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: how Levin is when he walks in the room every day, 640 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: every practice. And I think that's one of the things 641 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: that's going to make him an outstanding special teams coordinator. 642 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that his story is it's just impressive 643 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: across the board and as a guy that goes from 644 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: undrafted to play in a decade in the league to 645 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: then becoming a scout, a coach, and then a special 646 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: teams coordinator, Like it's just it's pretty remarkable that this 647 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: was a guy who made his maide a name for 648 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: himself on special teams. Then you become the coach of 649 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: that unit at the place where you carved out your 650 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: name for yourself, and then you get to be the 651 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: coach of that group and when he was a player, 652 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: everybody would basically say he was a coach on the field, 653 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: and so it's not hard to see that leap. But 654 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: there's not many guys that are able to do that, 655 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: and I give him a lot of credit for being 656 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: able to make that transition. I think the work ethic 657 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: and the energy are two big reasons for that. And 658 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what that group can do this year. 659 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: As I said, there's high expectations for special teams in Baltimore, 660 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: and nobody knows that more than him, right, And so 661 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: I think that he's ready employees for that opportunity. 662 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean players already loved playing for him, the 663 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: ones he's worked with. I think the ones that come 664 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: in and are coached by him. 665 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: Will love it as well. He's yes, he's doing this. 666 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 4: Not everything you said is true everything, but he's also 667 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 4: doing this at the highest level of football. He is 668 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: an excelling selled as a player under after. You know 669 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: the story he told about Dominique Rodgers Promarty telling him 670 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: that he could play at that level. We're not talking 671 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: about playing high school college at the NFL, and yes, 672 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 4: he proved that he could. I think the story's going 673 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: to be the same as a coach. There may be 674 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 4: people who think, well, is he experienced enough the transition 675 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: from coach to player, how's it going to be the 676 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: Ravens to high standards. Lavigne has always been someone who 677 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: loves a challenge and this is his newest challenge. He 678 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 4: loves the Ravens, he loves being a coach, and he 679 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 4: loves winning and he's going to bring all of that 680 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: to this job. And again, I think that the energy 681 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: he brings is really good for a not only for 682 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: the players before he coaching staff. I mean when every 683 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: day he brings it, it's a gift that he has. 684 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he's beat the odds guy throughout his entire 685 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: career in life, and he's got another great opportunity in 686 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: front of him. So, like I said, I'm excited to 687 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: see what he and this group can do this year. 688 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: And it's good to talk with him on the podcast here. 689 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: As always, you can email us at the lounge at 690 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you so much for 691 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: watching and listening, and we will be back with you 692 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: again soon.