WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Diamond D 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.640 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Here we Go, 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.680 Just follow Us. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:18.079 Supremo role called Supremo, Supremo role called Supremo Sound, Supremo 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.960 role called Supremo Sound Sound so Premo. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.400 Some say I'm crazy, some say I'm ill. Yeah, fuck 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:28.520 you talking about. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:37.880 Premo Supremo Supremo Sound Supremo. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:42.520 My name is Fante. I ain't hard to find, Yeah, 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:43.880 and I'm not like Sally. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:45.800 I got a two track. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:53.960 Mine Supremo ro cal suremo Son, Sure. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.840 Here's a little story, Yeah about Sugar Steve. Yeah, she 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.360 wanted Diamond, gave her. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:01.600 The d. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.800 H R Supreme. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:15.840 It's like no time to rest, It's time to learn 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:17.880 from hip hop's finest. 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.840 My name is Diamond, my beast, the best. Yeah, I'm 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.080 down in the A now. Should have put my man quest. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.200 So free, so. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:48.280 Freemo, so some Supremo roll Son. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:53.760 So you like the. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:57.960 Learning a new button every week? 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.960 Uh yeah, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:04.560 Quest Love Supreme. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:05.960 I'm your host Quest Love. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.639 You know we're down here in the A in Atlanta 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:15.520 doing our first drafts of in person episodes. It's been 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.079 three years and uh, you know, glad to be with 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:23.120 the fan. Spoke to unpaid Bill this morning. He's fine, 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.280 chill with Grover and Oscar and then on Sesame Street 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.919 on a Saturday. Wait, today, Saturday, right right now. When 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.280 I got into uber it is one, I was like, oh, damn, 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:32.920 it is Saturday. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.239 Oh it's you go to work. You go to work. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.320 It's Saturday. I mean, probably not when they're airing this, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.960 but yeah, I'm all yeah, I'm just all messed up. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:43.960 No more days of play. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:49.360 I thought it was Thursday. Damn. Okay, it's like that. Anyway. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:50.200 How are you doing. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.000 I'm doing Oh, I am doing great. We're back in 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.200 the A. I'll barely recognize it. I ain't been here 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:55.760 in twenty years. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:56.079 I love it. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.000 I'm kind of mad because I'm here in the A, 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.919 but I've yet to go to stroke Ris and probably 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:02.400 is that. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.520 Like a new Strokers. I don't even what the hell 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.119 is that. I'm from the Magic City. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:06.519 Gentleman. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.600 You know, okay, this is what I'm learning about my 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.440 Atlanta trip number one. You know, it was sort of 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.760 a topic of the past, but now I get the 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.919 feeling that people actually go to the strip clubs here 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:22.840 just to eat. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:24.280 So I heard Magic Cities. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.960 Just everyone behind the cameras was like, ain't like somebody. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.519 I was like, nobody, you want to hear Magic It 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.000 has the best wings ever. 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.000 I hear the Diamond got really quiet when we start 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:37.760 talking about. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.760 Listen all right yesterday. I know always said this like 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.440 this is my favorite shows. But any any chance that 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:53.840 I get to nerd out on the production techniques that 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.960 really drew me to hip hop and drew office to 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.680 hip hop. No matter who you're like, it's it's always 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:04.200 a good episode. And so this gentleman has been forced 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.600 to record with even before his solo career, like the 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.480 work that he's done. You know, it's this strong city. 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.760 I don't a strong city at all associated with Aaron Fuchs. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.000 Anytime I see the words, I just get I'm afraid 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.480 even if I say, the label might get litigious. So 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.720 that was that was Jazzy J and Rocky Buchano, Right, okay, 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:30.240 all right, well yeah, Ali, the resume is strong, like 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:34.480 some of my my my favorite producer moments comes from 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.200 this gentleman years. I mean, we all of his records, 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.200 uh Suns, Bunts and hip hop Hatred. I got to 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:47.280 ask you about your your Sophomore, Hatred, Passionate Infidelity like Dome, Peace, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.400 the Gotham and now your brand new joint the Review, 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:56.279 which is excellent work. You've been doing quality, excellent work, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.320 and sometimes it's easy to sort of take for rand it. 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.480 People do excellent work and they often get overlooked, and 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.359 when top five lists and top ten lists are named, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.000 and you know, sometimes a person so effortless that you 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.400 tend to forget their contributions. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.320 But you know, that's what quest Love Supreme is for. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:16.920 So that's it. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.240 Let's welcome the one and only, finally, finally, Diamond D. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:22.800 Am I allowed to call you Diamond? 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:23.120 Now? 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.159 Course? Okay? 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:29.160 Number one plea were allowed? No, no, no no, But 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.000 here's the deal. I have two versions of the album. 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.560 When it was like Diamond stump blumped in here and 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.800 then there was Diamond, Well. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:41.760 It was Diamond and psychoch Neurotics. Diamonds Diamond psychoch Neurotics. 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.960 So what was the situation with your name? It was 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.520 there another Diamond d like back in the day. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.200 That I don't know what, I'm not sure, but I 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.440 think it might have been originally somebody that was signed 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:55.479 to Weston Records. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.679 Wow, New York yeah. Yeah, they did Tony Garden their heartbeat, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:00.240 like you. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.600 Know, hot Shot was on that table, but I think 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:03.600 somebody had the name. 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.279 Yeah, okay, so. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:10.240 Yeah, well, you know this is my favorite nerd out 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.360 moment on Quest Love Supreme. So I'm gonna start from 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.960 the beginning. What was your first musical memory? Time out? 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:18.880 Let me go to og style. Where were you born? 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.160 I was born in Manhattan, New York hospital. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.600 Wow, I never heard any yeah, get to get to 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:31.200 it all right, all right, was raised in the Bronx. Okay, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.920 your first musical memory sitting. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.919 In my uncle's room and him just playing music. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.400 He had a large vinyl collection, So I was just 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.440 sitting in his room like eight nine years old and 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:44.719 just listening to and play records. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:46.080 What was he playing? 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:51.640 Everything? Mostly mostly funk, jazz, soul, you know what I mean? 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.200 Shouts out to Gary was he was? 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.960 He very ridiculous with the collection. Like I've had an 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.320 older cousin that was that way. But you couldn't touch 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:02.159 the wax. 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.440 And you know, yeah, definitely fresh, yeah, definitely. You know, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.200 you know, you have to hold a record like this 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.840 with both hands. He's very meticulous about his whinys. And 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.840 then you know when I came along with the DJ hand, 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.400 you know, we had to put our hands on the record. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:17.480 I was gonna say, how okay. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.320 So I've sometimes I try and explain to people the 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.480 trouble you know, I mean' t ezy now that hip 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.160 hop is and it's about to be in its fiftieth 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.280 year for us also take for you know, for granted 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.600 it's development and how you know far it's come. But 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.680 you know, I try to explain to people that a 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.560 lot of those pioneers, you know, Flash got so much 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:44.760 kickback or pushback if you will, you know, because the 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.280 general idea is that you're going to destroy the needle 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.680 or destroy the belt driver, the turntable, like putting your 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.880 fingers on the grooves those are big no nose. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:57.840 Yeah, I got punishment trying to. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.800 You know, like my first introduction in scratching, of course, 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.920 was you know, grand Master Flash on the wheels of 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:08.320 steel and you know, trying to practice on my dad's 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.440 you know, while he's not looking and see what happens 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.680 and you get in trouble. But yeah, like how do 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.640 you discover what that is in in the bronx? And 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.960 were you like privy to any of those like block 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:18.680 parties or anything. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.600 Oh yeah, they would like right outside Noxlain it take it. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:27.240 Growing up with Farvest projects, me Fat Joel fer Ness. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.280 We would all see DJs like you. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.160 All were in the same buildings, still the same same complex. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.880 But we would see Gud like Grant with the Theadore 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:41.000 mainly theatre, sometime Flash. At that point they were already 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.800 making records, but we were able to just go downstairs 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.000 and just see these jams going on in the parks. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:47.000 What was it? 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.160 What was it like seeing Because I'm assuming that you're 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.280 too young for Harlem World or right, so I'm assuming 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.319 that you're eleven or twelve year oldag seeing it. So 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.319 what how does the trickle effect happen to you? Like 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.720 where tapes the thing instantly or how do you get 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.480 the information just. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.760 Watching it firsthand? You know you've seen people out there, 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.160 you know with boxes, you know, recording or whatever. But 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.480 we you know, I saw the firsthand. You know, when 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.480 Flash made Grand Master Fast on the Wheels of Steals, 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.559 I had already seen him do some of that, you know, 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.400 outside in the parks, cutting up good times, you know, 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:30.959 shit like that, but just being close in proximity to it, 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.360 is what drew me, and in fact quest when I 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.680 was a little kid, whenever I saw the DJ reach 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:42.239 for the damn right I'm Somebody album cover by the JB's, 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.080 you know, I would lose my mind because I knew 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.880 he was gonna play blow your Head. And that sticks 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.400 like even even now as an adult, that always sticks 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.880 out to me. A lot of times people ask me, 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:53.839 you know, what's the first song to draw you into 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.839 hip hop? I mentioned blow your Head. It's not a 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.920 rap record, it's just a a break bead that was 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.800 real popular, and as little kids, we would lose our 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.120 fucking mom when that shit came in. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.880 So all right, So Chuck d once explained to me 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.520 the effect of that, because I asked, like, why would 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.319 like why was that the first record that introduced the 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:17.480 world to public enemy? And he explained to me that, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.360 you know, because okay, I grew up with an old 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:26.160 like a father, and older uncles and older cousins, and 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.839 so they came more or less from the I mean, 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.199 I'm not saying like I inherited the critical thinking, but 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.360 the way that you know, I'm sure a classic album 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.760 comes out we all get together and discuss that shit critically. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.480 That's how they were, you know, because my dad was 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.240 a musician and all that stuff. So in my household, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:52.040 James Brown was kind of over by seventy three. Like 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.280 my I distinctly remember the very first album, my dad 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.160 panned like this is trash. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.880 He didn't like the payback. I don't think he liked 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:03.160 the idea of paying fifteen ninety. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.520 So typically, I guess back in seventy three seventy four, 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:11.520 an album would run three ninety nine. A single album's 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.520 like three ninety nine, maybe four ninety nine. So when 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.960 you're paying eleven twelve ninety nine for a double album 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.440 the first thing, and you know, I'm three years old, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.199 but my dad's like, wait a minute, there's only eight 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.400 songs on this record, and it's a double record, and 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.920 each song is like a meandering I never knew what 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.160 meandering was. But like by the time you get to 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.520 that like side three times running out Fast whatever, like 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.760 twelve minutes, you know, he just took it off and 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.280 he's like, I don't like this. And so in my mind, 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.360 James Brown was over in seventy four. But Chuck details me. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.200 He's like James Brown commercially might have had his last 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.720 heyday of string, you know, after Poblo'm taking the mess. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.640 But he's like in the hood, we never stopped playing 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.520 good Foot and get if anything like, we brought those 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.839 singles back, but it was just hood stuff. But for 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:04.400 some reason, me and myself, I never liked blow your 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:09.240 Head because in my mind I imagined James Brown's like, Okay, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:14.000 so Stevie Wonder got a moog and made miracles of 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.120 it with him. It was almost like I could see, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.160 I could see like the bubble wrap on the floor and. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:21.360 Him just and this is the thing. 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.599 Even James Brown's musicians himself will say like he was 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.160 the worst soloist of all time, correct, but one of 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.040 those guys where even if he's wrong, he's right. So 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.400 for him to do like all this like crazy solo 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.280 and and whatnot, just never understood why y'all gravitated to 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:36.839 that record. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.160 It's is just to have an instrumental that was fast, 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:39.480 to let. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.480 Bee boys go off or yeah, that's all it was. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.480 You know, I'm a little kids, so I'm not really 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.920 thinking about the musicality of it, but just the effect 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.559 that I Rick had had when he was played a party, 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.000 like you know, people would lose their fucking minds, you know, 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:59.000 that little one part To touch on what you're saying, 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.120 I did read with read. Wesley said that James went 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.800 in there behind their backs and he put that mood 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.840 sound over the up. Yeah right, he said. It wasn't 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:13.040 only at first, but the eyeing is that that's what 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.200 drove it by the time these young black and brown. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.200 Kids were listening to it, you know, in seventy eight 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:20.720 and seventy nine at these parties. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:22.600 Yeah, I was going to say, we. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:29.920 We're now an iHeart affiliate and so we're like limited 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.440 on the times that we could play songs. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.640 But just for that you people know what we're talking about. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:35.319 This is blow your head. 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:38.400 Oh, thank y'all. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:43.680 So y'all was talking about that public enemy. No, okay, 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.679 that's exactly like, Okay, we're here now, we here, we here. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.880 Yeah, so you know, but this is also what I 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:50.280 want to know. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.559 Do you have any memories because this is kind of 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.840 the one thing that hip hop pineys really don't talk about. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.000 But I mean, I can only put two and two 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.800 together that if it weren't for the Blackout of seventy seven, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.280 we might not have had hip hop culture because I'm 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.640 just assuming that because of the. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:17.760 Of the looting estemal, I'm a little kid doing the blackout. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:18.960 But no, no, no, I'm not saying. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.760 But I have heard stories about a lot of equipment 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.440 came into possession during the blackout, so you know it 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.040 might it definitely pushed it along a little bit, right, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.320 But I mean it was there before that. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.480 But what I want to know is how, because I'm 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.200 also aware that as the years and decades go by, 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:43.720 maybe revisionist history sets in and stories get exaggerated. But 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:50.320 how officially loud were these speakers at these block parties 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:54.000 where they like concert level size, where you gouts are 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:54.840 satisfied with. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.960 Loud enough where you can hear them three blocks away? 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.400 How do you get power of electricity in a park streamline? 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:05.400 Believe so someone would have to risk their life climb 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:06.440 up the lamp post. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.280 Or a lot of them, a lot of them knew about, 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.080 you know, equipment, so they would break it to a 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:19.440 lamp post, get the power lines and do some ship 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:20.080 in the next thing. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:25.840 Now, Kwame's dad here explain that Kwame Kwami's dad used 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.320 to tell like, for the longest Kwame's father was still 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.800 the neighbors gas like he knew how to run a 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.600 line inside of their. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:38.800 Inside of their basement or whatever, and. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.560 Just yeahful people. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:42.920 Exactly if nothing else. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.880 So how old were you when you officially when you 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.000 considered yourself like all right, I'm gonna get into this 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:51.880 music ship. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.360 Like, how old were you? I would say about twelve? 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.200 About twelve when I asked my mom to buy me 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.160 some turntables. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.160 Yeah, did you want to DJ? Or yeah? No, I was. 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.560 I wanted to be a DJ. I didn't care about 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.080 ron and I just you know, I was My whole 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.920 focus was the beats, the breakbeats. I would just go 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.280 to these these jams to stand by the ropes and 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:16.560 try to see album covers, you know, just how they 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.960 find these little parts with the drums. That's what really 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.600 like intrigued me. You know, all of these records with 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.560 these little drum parts. So I was just drum crazy. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.640 When you were a kid, what was the record store that. 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:33.520 Was like the go to the whiz Nobody Whiz. And 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.880 there was another store on Third Avenue, I remember the name. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:40.760 But the first break I bought was Shangle Lie really 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.480 yeah okay, but we called it Paradixes very nice and 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.000 IRV got it. He mentioned it in documentary. He said 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.600 he used to cut that as a kid, and I 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.080 was like, oh, ship, that's crazy. But yeah, that was 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:59.560 the first joint I brought my own money. So yeah, yeah, 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.880 so the slick No, no, no, that's that's Frisco disco. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.800 But Daylight so sampled this on something. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.960 Dad ain't damn So in your mind, what was it 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.120 about it? Because in your mind, wasn't that disco. Wasn't 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:18.199 disco off limits? 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:18.560 Or no? 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:19.119 No, no? 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.480 A lot of breaks with disco, you know that super 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:27.960 sperm with disco, Frisco disco, the Mexican is just begun. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.040 What so whatever kept people dancing long? 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:31.119 That was good enough for you? 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:32.640 I mean you know, yeah, as long as the break 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.920 was there, all I need is you Tonight by Arthur 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.879 Price sock Yo. A lot of disco joints. Serone was 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.120 a disco record. Rocket in the pocket. It's a disco 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.760 record if ah. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:47.880 Okay, wait a minute, all right, So would you spend 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:49.040 it on thirty three or forty five? 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.640 Well, I mean forty five if you want to rhyme 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.560 into it. But on thirty three it speeds up right, Okay, 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.200 it's a disco record. Sarna is a disco artist. I 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.920 didn't know that rocket int sped up. I'm okay. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.560 So I'm one of those people least with the basic breaks, 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.040 especially with the stuff that's more disco fied, Like I mean, 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.480 there's two ways to listen to it, and I'm yeah, 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.320 like the first maybe twenty years of my life, I'm 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:16.240 very guilty of needle dropping. Yeah, oh there's a drumming 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.840 and then right, but then you know those that are 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.720 really into it, they study the song to figure it. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.800 So, like, what is your process of how much patience 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:26.119 do you have? 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.840 So when you go and you bend shop and you 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:34.480 get coming with four hundred joints or whatever, right, then. 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:37.840 Is it like wine? Do you just let it sit 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:39.240 there until you get to it? 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.320 Or it all depends on how how much patient do 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.480 you have to Like, no, they're not gonna sit there 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.359 too long, But in. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.119 Your mind, is there always a part that's usable and 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.360 you figure out? Because maybe with Dyla. So Dylan told 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.800 me he Dyla never made a beat on a Sunday, okay, 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.720 And he would house clean and do chores or whatever 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.440 and just have records on and he said, you do 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.240 about three or four hours or whatever. You know, sometimes 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.320 he will record some shit and just listen to drive around. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.240 So yeah, like, are you one of those people that, like, 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.159 you'll listen to something over and over again until it 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:21.119 hits you or you. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.120 Just nah, I just go through it when I'm near. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.200 But when i'm near, I'm focused. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.080 How did you make the transition from you know, DJ 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.000 in to then making tracks producing wells? 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.920 Most producers started off as DJs, But to answer a question, 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.399 I would say, like around nineteen ninety when me and 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.400 Premier did law on this first album, The Funky Technician. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.119 Well before that, it was a Master Rob I'm not 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.880 playing well. Well, I didn't produce that, but I bought 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.359 the record. Ah, Okay, I didn't know how to program. 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.639 Jazzy J programmed it that say you're Jay loop this 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.400 part up the clean back for the hook. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.480 Put these guitars in the chorus. Yeah, I didn't know 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:08.159 how to work it. 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.920 So I got to ask you this question, of course, 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.520 and you know what I'm about to ask you, Okay, 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:17.160 So for me, you know, and outside of New York, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:24.400 you know, I grew up in a three thousand record household, 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.879 of which you know, truthfully maybe only ten maybe fifteen 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.760 percent appealed to me, and the rest was just my 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.040 dad's boring stuff, like I'm not listening to Arthur price 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.960 Out and the Beatles and all this other stuff. 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.000 But of course, you know, once. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:45.600 I hear Nation of Millions and suddenly like I'm like, oh, 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.760 that's that stuff, that's that stuff. That's now It's like 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.680 I got to go through all them records and then 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:52.800 I discovered like, oh god, this is how they make 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:56.760 hip hop. So here's the deal. So I became a 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:01.560 Bomb Squad junkie. Okay, me too, And I mean for me, 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:05.399 there's nine seminole even though they've done more, but to me, 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.840 they've done nine important documents as far as like they're 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.520 they're cannon and really like sampling laws kind of killed 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.840 them off, and you know, there's other inner issues in 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.680 the group, but for real, it's like for me, it 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:21.359 was always you know, Barton Rush Nation, Black Planet. I 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:23.960 do count because they did a majority of it poison 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:28.320 by BBD correct. Even the non Bomb Squad sounds songs 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:34.920 sounded like them. Of course, America's most wanted And for me, yeah, 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:41.800 and I now consider you know, Terminator's first joint but yeah. 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.879