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Speaker 2: M Man, I mean.

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Speaker 1: In the uh, in the days that matchup in terms

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Speaker 1: of time of year, like you, like you can only

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Speaker 1: help for a perfect perfect day. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: you are, but you're in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Wow, what

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Speaker 1: a day. What an absolute chamber of commerce type of day.

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Speaker 1: Bonci Bolanos. She's with us throughout the show. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we got our guy Dan Byer who's bounce around doing

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Speaker 1: all these other shows. He'll be hosting for me tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I'll be hosting the Hurt. You got Jason Stewart and

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Speaker 1: you got Big Apple Iowa Sam on the show. Let's

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Speaker 1: just go with the biggest news of the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's sort of slow news time, but again, I think

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Speaker 1: this is really interesting, right the Lakers have signed DeAndre Ayton,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty obvious what's taking place. You

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Speaker 1: heard Brian Windhorst earlier today on ESPN saying, look, I

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Speaker 1: started with the never, and now it's Lebron James is

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Speaker 1: in an expiring contract. An expiring contract is something that's

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Speaker 1: very valuable to people in the trade market. And he's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say never. Now is if it's ever

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Speaker 2: The whole thing strikes me as super odd.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, some of my comments earlier in the week went

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Speaker 1: Lakers are doing in acquiring DeAndre Ayton. They need a

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Speaker 1: big guy. Deandreton is very good off pick and roll. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't actually think he fits their needs other than

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Speaker 1: also has had his troubles defensively and in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and some attitude motivational things. But they're trying to find

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Speaker 1: the right fit. For Luka Doncik, Luka Doncik. And this

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Speaker 1: is a little bit like why Cam Newton couldn't still

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Speaker 1: be in the NFL. This is a lot like why

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Speaker 1: Alan Iverson really really struggled when he went to the

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Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets to play with Carmelo Anthony. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you're so used to being the guy for so long,

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Speaker 2: Hear yourself.

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Speaker 1: Right, and remember you go back the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: and Lebron James really smart in that he would let

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves and others like go and try and get

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Speaker 2: He seemed okay with that.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't seem okay with this because in order to

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Speaker 1: make Luca successful, Luca's got to have the ball a

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Speaker 1: ton and he's got to determine everything. And the only

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Speaker 1: the only conclusion you can come to is that Lebron

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Speaker 2: He's not okay. With it. He's not okay with it.

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Speaker 1: for less money. Hey, you are what the market will bear.

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Speaker 1: If you don't think Lebron James could have gotten fifty

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Speaker 1: he's not a top ten, top fifteen, top twenty player.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it. The league is, and frankly Lebron

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Speaker 2: And then there's ultimately a breakup. Right.

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Speaker 1: This is my personal belief, and some of it comes

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the Lakers for Lebron. He's sitting there going,

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't spend a ton of money on

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Speaker 1: previously Anthony Davis always breaking down. You know, Lebron in

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Speaker 1: his mind, he's like, I'm Lebron James, I am the system.

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Speaker 1: When you're the Lakers, you sit there and go, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: you've gotten hurt five out of the seven years and

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Speaker 1: haven't finished the season. There was the time in which

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Speaker 1: that that relationship ended in terms of quality relationship, Like

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Speaker 1: two months in the season, you were done with him.

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Speaker 1: Remember the time which you made us draft Bronnie James

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Speaker 1: Bronnie James, And then we turned our G League team

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Speaker 1: In and of itself, like, ah, you let guys get

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Speaker 1: it's Lebron. But then when Lebron no longer wants to

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Speaker 1: other things come back into play, all those other little

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Speaker 1: again people in the organization, I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: guy practices hard. This guy is precise with what he

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Speaker 1: they appear on the nightly game test. But now you

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Speaker 1: talk to those same people and they're like, dude, he

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Speaker 1: only wants to work out by himself. You know, he

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Speaker 1: has this small circle that's getting smaller no one can

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Speaker 1: say anything bad about Bronnie, can't treat him like he's

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Speaker 1: You trade away Anthony Davis, and he freaks out his

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Speaker 1: management team, constantly trying to control things. Feels headed for divorce.

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Speaker 2: It does, It does. Now.

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Speaker 1: The important thing about being headed for divorce in a

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Speaker 1: basketball sense is this. It doesn't mean they won't put

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Speaker 1: a statue up front. They've done it with Shaq. And

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Speaker 1: if you remember how Shaq's career as a Laker ended,

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Speaker 1: it was not well. You know, he's yelling at Jerry

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Speaker 1: sacrilege if you're a Laker, if you're a tried and

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Speaker 1: Three championships. Put a statue out in front. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean there won't be a statue in lebron It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean they won't hang his number up in the rafters.

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they. But yeah, there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: period of like five years where it's not great between

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Speaker 1: and that divorce may happen before the season starts, it

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Speaker 2: Right, But this is.

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Speaker 1: A fascinating end to a a relationship, which is it's

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Speaker 1: like anybody it's their third marriage, right, Lakers. We've had

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Speaker 1: a bunch of superstars come here before, two mixed results.

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Speaker 1: But once you get here, you want to become a Laker.

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Speaker 1: If you stay here for seven years. This will be

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Speaker 1: his eighth season. JAYC, what's your read on the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: You're a lifelong Southern Californian and what's been taking place

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I you know, I was a child of

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Speaker 3: very closely, and I am very interested in how Lebron

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Speaker 3: James has completely refused to connect with Laker fans. It's

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Speaker 3: a merely transactional relationship. You get me, Lebron James, I'm famous,

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Speaker 3: you'll be more relevant, you might win a ring, and

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Speaker 3: you can come and pay to see me. But I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to try to make any emotional connection with you.

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Speaker 3: And he's brazen about it. Almost every decision that comes

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Speaker 3: out of Lebron's camp is about Lebron and his brand.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if I've ever even heard

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Speaker 3: him once say that I love Laker fans or I

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Speaker 3: love playing in front of these passionate fans. It's like

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Speaker 3: he goes out of his way to not embrace it.

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Speaker 3: So like this week, this last decision, this most recent decision,

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Speaker 3: is just confirms that feeling that this is all about

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Speaker 3: what Lebron wants as opposed to what's good for the

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Speaker 2: The Goat as contributor.

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Speaker 6: you know, getting chrisofs Porzingi's huge move, they took advantage

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Speaker 6: because the Celts are trying to you know, address second

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Speaker 6: Apron concerns. Luke Kunar great shooters. So I think the Hawks,

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Speaker 6: you know, they're they're going to stick with Trey Young,

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Speaker 6: and you know, I want to put them as a

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Speaker 6: favorite in these but I think they do have an

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Speaker 6: opportunity to make some headway because this isn't diminished Eastern

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Speaker 6: Conference next season. Tyree Falburn likely not going to play

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Speaker 6: because of his achilles with Indiana the Milwaukee Bucks. There's

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Speaker 6: a lot of fluidity with what happens with that roster.

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Speaker 6: The Celtics, Jason Tatum is not going to be there

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Speaker 6: next season because of his achilles injury, so they have

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Speaker 6: an opportunity to at least I think, be a respectable

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Speaker 6: playoff team. And as because of what we've seen with

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Speaker 6: these moves, I think the message is clear that they're

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Speaker 6: building around Trey On, not building to replace them.

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Speaker 1: Steut Gottlief show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the

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Speaker 1: voice of Mark Beadina. Last one, what about the Clippers?

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Speaker 2: Right? What about with the Clippers? What are they doing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're kind of being pretty statis quo.

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Speaker 6: They took care of flow hanging for James Harden, came

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Speaker 6: back on a two year deal. I think they're trying

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Speaker 6: to negotiate a new extension for Norman Powell Chris Paul.

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Speaker 6: That might happen. As far as the reunion goes, I

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Speaker 6: think it would be a great fit. But it's not

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Speaker 6: the Chris Paul reunion that we saw when they first

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Speaker 6: got him that formed a Lop city more than a

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Speaker 6: decade ago. It would be about, you know, being an

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Speaker 6: additional playmaker that can be a good veteran player in

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Speaker 6: the locker room. I think their roster's pretty much what

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Speaker 6: it is beyond some a few tweaks here and there,

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Speaker 6: and for veteran, for worse, Doug, that's basically what the

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Speaker 6: Clippers have done these last few years. They make a

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Speaker 6: lot of changes, but it's a lot of just rotation

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Speaker 6: pieces around their core guys. I mean, you look at

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Speaker 6: James Harden's back, Kawhi Leonard's not going anywhere, Nickols, Patum

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Speaker 6: came back. You know, most of their identity is still

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Speaker 6: the same.

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Speaker 2: Mark, You're the best man.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you joining us, have a happy Fourth July and

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Speaker 1: love having you on in this wild NBA off season.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Right back at you, Doug Jays, I'll say, happy fourth.

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Speaker 2: Cut up with The Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: If you could choose one picture when your most important game,

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Speaker 1: who would it be?

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Speaker 2: We'll draft ours next.

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Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 4: This is game time game on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 2: Mon's what you got we are playing?

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Speaker 7: I feel a draft.

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Speaker 2: I feel a draft.

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Speaker 7: That's right, Coach, we are gonna be drafting one picture

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Speaker 7: in our lifetime that we would want on the mound

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Speaker 7: to pitch the biggest game of the season, and we're

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Speaker 7: gonna draft snake order. Coach, You're gonna go first, then me,

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Speaker 7: Jason Sam with back to back picks, goes back to

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Speaker 7: Jason me and ends with you. Coach, So kick us off.

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Speaker 7: One picture in your lifetime that you want on the

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Speaker 7: mount to bitch the biggest game of your season.

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Speaker 8: On coach, we want Pedro Martinez.

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Speaker 7: Pedro Martinez is a good one. That is a good one.

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Speaker 7: I had him on my list as well. All right, well,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the easy fastball down the middle. Clayton

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Speaker 7: Kershaw is who I'm gonna take. Three times Cy Young

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Speaker 7: Award winner MVP three thousand strikeout member is an easy one,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: It is, except for what was the big There was

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Speaker 1: one big playoff game. It wasn't the World Series. I

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Speaker 1: thought he was dominated in now. You could say the

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Speaker 1: same thing at times about Pedro Martinez once he got

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Speaker 1: to the later innings, but had more dominance in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: I'll be here. What else? Who you got there? Who's next? Chase?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Jason's up.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to promote next hour's guest with my third pick.

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Speaker 3: Nice game pitcher I ever witnessed Kurt Schilling Red Sox, Diamondbacks, Phillies.

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Speaker 3: People forgot that he pitched on the ninety three series

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Speaker 3: against the Blue Jays. Did very well, but Mitch Williams blew.

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Speaker 2: It for him. You blow it match, all right?

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Speaker 7: Sam, You've got back to back pick, so don't mess

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Speaker 7: this up.

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Speaker 8: Make them good. I'm going to take a long time

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Speaker 8: Phillies pitcher Cole Hammil's three point four to three lifetime

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Speaker 8: e RA. He was an NLCS and World Series MVP

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Speaker 8: in two thousand and eight. Coal Hammils.

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Speaker 7: Hm And with your other.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to go into the very deep, uh pitching

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Speaker 8: room of the San Francisco Giants of the earlier two thousands,

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Speaker 8: the ots. I'm going to take Tim lincicom. Oh wow,

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Speaker 8: World series titles. You just threw a change up, right there.

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Speaker 8: There you go.

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Speaker 3: We thought you were definitely going one name, and you

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Speaker 3: threw the change up and with the other name. Interesting.

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Speaker 8: There were a lot of good pictures on that that Giants.

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Speaker 3: Team one three one guy who dominated the postseason.

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Speaker 7: It's true, that's true.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that I had him written down too.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take him then, I'm gonna if you're just

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Speaker 3: gonna give him, to give you a chance right there to.

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Speaker 8: Know, I'm done. I'm done my picks. I had Madison

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Speaker 8: Gardner there you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Absolute and nad hit a couple

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Speaker 3: of home runs for you.

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Speaker 2: Mad bum.

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Speaker 7: I like that one, all right, So I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna pick is the starting picture correct?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's how I interpreted. Yes, the starting picture correct? Right,

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Speaker 7: That's how I interpreted. I did not see this guy play,

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Speaker 7: but everything I've learned through my time at Dodger Stadium,

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Speaker 7: I Shandy Sandy Kofax, everything I've learned, everything I've ever

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Speaker 7: read about watched, even though you know the videos aren't

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Speaker 7: great because it was back in the day. But like,

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Speaker 7: if he wouldn't have gone injured when he did, who

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Speaker 7: knows what he could have done. And at that time,

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Speaker 7: you know, Tommy John was surgery was not even a

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Speaker 7: thing yet. But Sandy Kofax, just you gotta I gotta

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Speaker 7: take I'm gonna take him three time Signing Award winner

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Speaker 7: as well. But when he won, there was only one

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Speaker 7: winner and not one on each league, so he was

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Speaker 7: literally the best picture.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the hot take is after the whole thing

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Speaker 3: with the Kershaw it's it's a way to throw water

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Speaker 3: on it. But you can make the argument that Kershaw

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Speaker 3: is not even the best left hander and Dodger's history, you.

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Speaker 7: Can absolutely make that argument, absolutely, and I do think

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Speaker 7: that probably you give the edge to sand Deep because

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Speaker 7: of how he performed in the playoffs, because you know,

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Speaker 7: coach hit it.

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Speaker 1: Why are you Why are you like you're acting like

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Speaker 1: that you're offending.

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Speaker 7: Somebody, because I hate that because it is true, and

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Speaker 7: it's just it's sucks.

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Speaker 2: It's true Clayton Kershaw sucked in the postseason. Let's just

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Speaker 2: kind of be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: We used to call Clayton dug Why are you crapping

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Speaker 3: on her first panic.

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Speaker 2: Because she's like taking feeling bad about it. It's like

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Speaker 2: you could say, yeah, you could say it's okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have an opinion, it's a good one. Go with it,

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Speaker 2: lean in, do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean MONSI just said, can't Clayton Kershaw sucked? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what she said.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if Kofax would have gotten the surgery,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't have been called Tommy John.

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Speaker 2: It would have been called Sandy Kokak Surgery.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tommy John was a Dodger at least twenty years later.

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Speaker 7: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 8: And he founded that underwear company, right, Tommy John. Yes, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: What that That totally happened.

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Speaker 3: There are some places where you can get the surgery

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Speaker 3: and the underwear the same outlet.

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Speaker 8: Wow, one stop shop stop surgery is in underwear.

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Speaker 2: Why not shop? All right?

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Speaker 7: Coach, you do have the last pick here, make a go.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm not gonna do black Jack Morris. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do John Smoltz. And the one thing about Smoltzy

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Speaker 1: is obviously he became an elite closer. And yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Braves didn't win in nineteen ninety one, but in Game

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Speaker 1: seven he pitched a shutout and in the tenth inning,

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Speaker 1: Jean Larkin got the walk off based knock.

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Speaker 2: Right So.

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Speaker 1: Against Minnesota Twins, which by the way, was black Jack Morris,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with John Smoltz. John Smoltz's answer.

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Speaker 3: Jean Larkin made it into the show. Jean Larkin Kin.

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Speaker 1: Jean Larkin made it him before Barry Larkin. Barry Larkin

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Speaker 1: played for the Red Spansea back when we were kids.

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Speaker 1: He was awesome. They also had a guy named Eric Davis.

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Speaker 1: Eric Davis used to kind of pump his hands and

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Speaker 1: load up on a swing. He was from Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: and I have no idea you have to have such

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Speaker 1: quick hands to be able to drop your bat that

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Speaker 1: low and still get around a high fastball.

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Speaker 2: But he was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Stuff stuck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Stud Eccou baseball was cool man. Anyway, I had

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Speaker 1: that is game time.

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Speaker 4: This is game time. I done the Doug Gottlieb show.

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Speaker 3: Wance was at the game last night. She witnessed three thousand.

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Speaker 8: I did. It was great. Yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Kershaw, now, I've I've always been

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Speaker 1: a bit of a Kershaw defender from this perspective, right,

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Speaker 1: most of the times in which he struggled in the

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Speaker 1: postseason because he did have even he did have some

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Speaker 1: great postseason starts. I mean, again, like people diminish it's like,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna be great in every postseas start, and

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Speaker 1: he's had a ton of them. But uh, specifically it's

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Speaker 1: like the Cardinals, he struggled. It was always late innings.

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Speaker 1: And you do wonder, like, what if he didn't lead

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Speaker 1: the league in innings pitched in the regular season, would

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Speaker 1: he have had better stuff?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Or would the Dodgers have gotten that deep in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs had he not.

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Speaker 2: Been as good in the regular season?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: It's a kind of m catch twenty two.

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Speaker 1: But I think that I think that the pick that

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Speaker 1: Jason made is a really good one because because Kurt

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Speaker 1: Shilling was known for being clutched and being great in

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Speaker 1: the regular season, and I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people in baseball, like in one game, you may not

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Speaker 1: like Kurt Shilling, some people don't, but he was awesome

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I mean, he was kind of amazing, awesome, awesome,

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Speaker 1: awesome stuff. By the way, here's a here's a note

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Speaker 1: which I found last night when on our group text,

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Speaker 1: did you guys see this? How many wins did Clayton

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Speaker 1: Kershaw have coming into last night?

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Speaker 3: Two twelve?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was two sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay to sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Kurt Schilling also has to sixteen. We'll talk to Kurt

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Speaker 1: Chilling next hour plus don't call to throw Back Thursday,

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Speaker 1: next to The Doug Otlib Show