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Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 2: On each episode, we'll decid us the reasons we now
Speaker 2: know that our loved ones have survived physical death and
Speaker 2: so will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife on
Speaker 2: our time together today, I want to talk about hypnosis
Speaker 2: and the afterlife, as in, can we be hypnotized and
Speaker 2: tap into the past, possibly even a past life? If
Speaker 2: we are flatlining on an operating table and don't remember anything,
Speaker 2: can we be hypnotized and remember a near death experience. Also,
Speaker 2: can we be hypnotized and talk to our deceased loved ones.
Speaker 2: The answer to these questions is yes, but the answer
Speaker 2: may not be as easy as it may sound. First,
Speaker 2: let's talk about hypnosis, what it is and what it isn't,
Speaker 2: and then look at some very cool ways people are
Speaker 2: connecting with the afterlife. When I was twelve or thirteen
Speaker 2: years old, I would have slumber parties with my friends
Speaker 2: Andrea and Tina. Tina's dad was a psychiatrist who used
Speaker 2: hip gnosis in his practice and for fun. Andrea wanted
Speaker 2: to be hypnotized, so I played hypnotist as Tina took notes.
Speaker 2: I knelt behind Andrea's head as she laid on the floor.
Speaker 2: I gently rubbed the temples of her forehead and gave
Speaker 2: her a number and asked her to count backwards. Every
Speaker 2: so often, I gave her another number and she had
Speaker 2: to count backward from that. The idea was to confuse
Speaker 2: the mind to induce hypnosis. When I sensed that Andrea
Speaker 2: was in the zone, I asked her what she saw,
Speaker 2: who she was, and what she was wearing. This is
Speaker 2: the first time I probably heard about past lives, and
Speaker 2: Andrea always described that she was someone who lived a long,
Speaker 2: long time ago. For fun, I had her count forwards
Speaker 2: sometimes instead of back, and she would describe someone in
Speaker 2: the future, like living in outer space with purple eyes.
Speaker 2: One occasion, when I regressed her, she scared the heck
Speaker 2: out of us. She said she had been burned at
Speaker 2: the stake for being a witch in Salem. Of course,
Speaker 2: at the time I forgot, we were studying the Salem
Speaker 2: witch Trials in our history class. That experience scared all
Speaker 2: of us not to play around with hypnosis anymore during
Speaker 2: our slumber parties. Then in college, I used to love
Speaker 2: when a hypnotist did a stage show. It appeared that
Speaker 2: the hypnotist made the students do some very funny things.
Speaker 2: We laughed so hard when a person was told they
Speaker 2: were from a different planet and spoke a made up language,
Speaker 2: or when the group on stage was hypnotized and they
Speaker 2: were told the whole audience was naked. One of my
Speaker 2: favorites was when the hypnotist gave a person water to drink,
Speaker 2: told them it was alcohol, and the person began to
Speaker 2: act more and more drunk. It seemed like the hypnotist
Speaker 2: was somehow in control of their subjects. Back in the nineties,
Speaker 2: I actually learned how to hypnotize people. At the time,
Speaker 2: I was trying to lose weight, and I knew hypnosis
Speaker 2: helped for weight loss, to stop smoking and get rid
Speaker 2: of phobias. So I flew to California and took an
Speaker 2: intensive course in hypnosis. That's when I learned what hypnosis
Speaker 2: is and what it isn't. All hypnosis is really self hypnosis.
Speaker 2: A hypnotist cannot make a person do anything they normally
Speaker 2: wouldn't do. Our conscious mind is always listening. So those
Speaker 2: people on stage were all fun, loving people who happily
Speaker 2: went along with the suggestions the hypnotists gave them, and
Speaker 2: laughs were shared by all. There is a bit of
Speaker 2: what feels like magic in hypnosis, because I believe in hypnosis.
Speaker 2: During the intensive class, the teacher walked up to me
Speaker 2: and said, quite abruptly, sleep, and my head went right
Speaker 2: down on my chest. Then he said, in a few minutes,
Speaker 2: when I say the word green, you'll feel the urge
Speaker 2: to join me on stage. After he asked me to
Speaker 2: open my eyes, he carried on and gave a suggestion
Speaker 2: to someone else in the room. Now this is where
Speaker 2: it becomes really weird, because I honestly never heard him
Speaker 2: say the word green, And suddenly I realized I was
Speaker 2: standing on the stage thinking how did I get here?
Speaker 2: But another time, while my eyes were closed, he asked
Speaker 2: me to think of my favorite song, which at the
Speaker 2: time was one of Phil Collins's greatest hits. He said,
Speaker 2: I'd have this uncontrollable urge to rush to the stage
Speaker 2: and sing it. I opened my eyes and I said,
Speaker 2: no freaking way. You see, I only sing when no
Speaker 2: one else can hear me, unless it's happy birthday. I've
Speaker 2: got that mastard. So I am a certified hypnotherapist, and
Speaker 2: fresh from school, I began to take on clients. I
Speaker 2: explained to people that our conscious mind has to work
Speaker 2: with our subconscious to change habits. That hypnosis can help
Speaker 2: remove the urge to smoke cigarettes, for instance, but they
Speaker 2: had to do their part and change their habits, like
Speaker 2: substituting a glass of water when they wanted to smoke.
Speaker 2: We all naturally fall into the same state of mind
Speaker 2: called hypnosis when we wake up in the morning and
Speaker 2: when we fall asleep at night. It is that stage
Speaker 2: on the edge of sleep. Hypnosis is also called visual imagery.
Speaker 2: Athletes can visualize a competition before it happens and be
Speaker 2: more successful. I've hypnotized students who wanted to do better
Speaker 2: on tests, people with phobias, habits they wanted changed, and
Speaker 2: had lots of success. But long before I was interested
Speaker 2: in the afterlife, one lady told me she wanted to
Speaker 2: be hypnotized to quit smoking. During the session, I noticed
Speaker 2: tears were coming from her eyes and she was smiling.
Speaker 2: When it was over, she paid me and gave me
Speaker 2: a big tip and said it was the best experience
Speaker 2: she's had in a long time. Why because when I
Speaker 2: had her imagine being by a cooling stream and watching
Speaker 2: the urge for cigarettes be carried away, she said her
Speaker 2: deceased son met her by that stream. She got to
Speaker 2: hug him and kiss him, spoke with him, and one
Speaker 2: hundred percent believes he joined her in that experience. I
Speaker 2: spoke with doctor Craig Hogan a couple times on the show,
Speaker 2: and he teaches a self guided afterlife technique that he
Speaker 2: says is eighty six percent effective reuniting people with their
Speaker 2: loved ones. Rochelle Wright teaches a method in her book
Speaker 2: Guided after Life Connections, and doctor Alan Botkin and his
Speaker 2: therapists do what's called induced after death communication, which is
Speaker 2: also the name of his book. While the word hypnosis
Speaker 2: may not be used in these examples, I think a
Speaker 2: better word for what people are experiencing is an altered state.
Speaker 2: You've had altered states many times, and every day you
Speaker 2: experience them daydreaming or have you ever been out for
Speaker 2: a drive and you thought, how did I get here
Speaker 2: so fast? Sometimes we are so engrossed by a good
Speaker 2: book or a movie that we pay no attention to
Speaker 2: anything else. That's an altered state. If you follow a
Speaker 2: meditation and you actually feel like you're standing by a
Speaker 2: stream or lying on a beach, feeling the sand beneath
Speaker 2: you and maybe a gentle breeze, that's an altered state.
Speaker 2: There is a lot of value in having someone lead
Speaker 2: you into an altered state, because left to our own devices,
Speaker 2: it's easy to fall asleep. We can also make recordings
Speaker 2: and lead ourselves into that state of self. Hypnosis practitioners
Speaker 2: often ask that we're seated straight up in a chair
Speaker 2: because that keeps us from falling asleep. Back in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: I was a speaker at the Ions conference that's the
Speaker 2: International Association for Near Death Studies and a cardiologist, a psychiatrist,
Speaker 2: and a master hypnotherapist did a presentation called Hypnotic Recall
Speaker 2: of Near Death Experiences and shared their research after regressing
Speaker 2: twenty cardiac arrest patients who didn't remember anything until they
Speaker 2: were hypnotized and they remembered having a near death experience.
Speaker 2: These doctors believe that hypnotic recall brings very positive and
Speaker 2: transformative emotions to people because so many people who suffer
Speaker 2: a cardiac arrest have long term problems such as anxiety,
Speaker 2: PTSD and depression, so these experiences can be very healing.
Speaker 2: I'd like to give you some links that you can
Speaker 2: refer back to. First, that self guided afterlife connection can
Speaker 2: be found at Afterlifeinstitute dot org, forward slash, self dash Guided.
Speaker 2: Scott Milligan and I do a monthly trance in the
Speaker 2: Altered States class to help us blend with that love
Speaker 2: from the unseen world, and it also helps with spiritual
Speaker 2: development and gives us a lot of peace and healing
Speaker 2: in our lives. Of course, that's that we don't die
Speaker 2: at dot com. In our next segment, you'll hear words
Speaker 2: from doctor Alan Botkin and you can find out more
Speaker 2: about him and his global therapists that facilitate after death
Speaker 2: communications at induced ADC dot com. In our third segment, together,
Speaker 2: you'll hear from doctor Brian Weiss, author of many books
Speaker 2: including Many Lives, Many Masters and Only Love Is Real,
Speaker 2: and find his hypnotic regression audios on his website Ranweiss
Speaker 2: dot com. Also, back in episode one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: of this show, I included a visual journey to connect
Speaker 2: you with your loved ones, So be sure and go
Speaker 2: back and check that out. Just recently, back on episode
Speaker 2: one eighty four, we talked to dream expert doctor Janet
Speaker 2: Pete Dolato. She gave us a tool we can use
Speaker 2: to connect with our deceased loved ones through what she
Speaker 2: calls is the dream gate. It's when we're still sleepy,
Speaker 2: just waking up in the morning, we create a gate
Speaker 2: and imagine our loved ones standing behind it because we're
Speaker 2: still in that altered state. It allows an opportunity to
Speaker 2: have a day dream, one in which our loved ones
Speaker 2: communicate with us. The question is always is it really
Speaker 2: them or is it our imagination? Doctor Janet says we
Speaker 2: should never say just our imagination because Imagination is the
Speaker 2: tool used for communication. Even the best mediums, say the
Speaker 2: spirit world, draw from their imagination and create images so
Speaker 2: that they can give them in a reading. We're going
Speaker 2: to go into our first break now, and when we
Speaker 2: come back, you're going to hear from doctor Alan Botkin.
Speaker 2: He's the one from INDUCEDADC dot com, the name of
Speaker 2: his book, Induced After Death Communication. Then you'll meet the
Speaker 2: famous doctor Brian Weiss, followed by a surprise from me
Speaker 2: to you. You got to love Sandra Surprises. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: head to the break and we'll be right back. You're
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. Next,
Speaker 2: I'd like you to hear from doctor Alan Bodkin, who
Speaker 2: has written a book called Induced After Death Communication, A
Speaker 2: Miraculous Therapy for Grief and Loss, and how he accidentally
Speaker 2: learned about after death communication.
Speaker 3: I had been working on an impatient post traumatic stress
Speaker 3: disorder unit at a local VA hospital for a number
Speaker 3: of years, treating combat veterans with traumatic memories and pretty
Speaker 3: severe PTSD, and for a while, the only available treatments
Speaker 3: were what were called exposure therapies, where you'd have the
Speaker 3: patient talk about the traumatic event repeatedly in a safe
Speaker 3: and supportive and non mental environment, and the idea was
Speaker 3: that over time the emotional intensity associated with those memories
Speaker 3: would decrease. At least that's theoretically what was supposed to happen.
Speaker 3: The work was extremely difficult, mostly for our patients. When
Speaker 3: they did work on a traumatic memory during the day,
Speaker 3: they were pretty much awake all night, and if they
Speaker 3: did fall asleep, they generally had nightmares of the trauma
Speaker 3: they worked on during the day. This was an inpatient unit,
Speaker 3: so we had PM and night shift who always reported
Speaker 3: back to us and then a brand new therapy came
Speaker 3: out in the early nineties and we were one of
Speaker 3: the first to use it, and it was called Eye
Speaker 3: movement Desensitization and Reprocessing, or EMDR, and the idea with
Speaker 3: that was is you have the patient to tend to
Speaker 3: a certain aspect of their traumatic memory while at the
Speaker 3: same time you'd get his or her eyes moving back
Speaker 3: and forth left to right in a particular rhythmic fashion.
Speaker 6: Now, when we.
Speaker 3: First heard about it, that sounded a little silly to us,
Speaker 3: but we were at least open minded enough to give
Speaker 3: it a try, and we found that oftentimes in a
Speaker 3: single session we were able to process a traumatic memory
Speaker 3: to the point where patients would say things like, you know, Doc,
Speaker 3: this is the first time when I remember what happened,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's finally over and it feels far
Speaker 3: away to me, which was the opposite of a traumatic memory,
Speaker 3: which is you don't only remember it, you also relived
Speaker 3: the moment when you do remember it. But I movement
Speaker 3: did a beautiful job of processing a traumatic memory. Well,
Speaker 3: I had been working with EMDR for a little while
Speaker 3: and there were parts about the standard protocol that didn't
Speaker 3: make sense to me. So I did a lot of
Speaker 3: experimentation with it, and most of my ideas didn't seem
Speaker 3: to help, but I did hit upon a number of
Speaker 3: changes that seemed to make EMBR work even better and
Speaker 3: more rapidly. So one day I was after I had
Speaker 3: made that final change, I was working with a patient.
Speaker 3: When we were done, at the end of the session,
Speaker 3: opened his eyes and said that the deceased person he
Speaker 3: was grieving had come to him in this beautiful vision
Speaker 3: and told him that she was okay, and so on
Speaker 3: and so forth, and my patient was absolutely convinced that
Speaker 3: this person's spirit had come to him. Well, at the time,
Speaker 3: I didn't know what these experiences were even called. I
Speaker 3: didn't know there was a name for him, which is
Speaker 3: after death communication or ADC. And these experiences occur spontaneously
Speaker 3: in the general population, so they're not new, and they've
Speaker 3: been known to assist in the grieving process. So anyway,
Speaker 3: when my patient had the experience, I thought maybe he
Speaker 3: had hallucinated, and I was concerned about him, that his
Speaker 3: psychological condition had deteriorated which caused him to hallucinate. But
Speaker 3: he left the office feeling joyous and happy, and he
Speaker 3: slept well that night and his joy lasted into the
Speaker 3: next day, into the next week, and so on and
Speaker 3: so forth. The case I just briefly referred to was
Speaker 3: the first time that accidentally happened in therapy. And I
Speaker 3: was working with a veteran I call Sam, and he
Speaker 3: had become very close to an orphan Vietnamese girl named
Speaker 3: Lee in Vietnam. She was about ten years old, and
Speaker 3: he had plans to adopt her and bring her back
Speaker 3: home with him.
Speaker 6: To the States.
Speaker 3: He didn't know at the time the government wouldn't have
Speaker 3: allowed that, but he didn't know that at the time. Anyway,
Speaker 3: one day she was shot and killed right in front
Speaker 3: of him, and that was pretty much the cause of
Speaker 3: his psychological undoing in Vietnam. And he after that volunteered
Speaker 3: for dangerous missions and so on, and he covered his
Speaker 3: sadness with his rage. Well, when I was working with
Speaker 3: him with the eye movements, with the early version of
Speaker 3: IADC therapy, we processed all those really painful emotions, and
Speaker 3: then I gave him an extra set of eye movements,
Speaker 3: and he closed his eyes, and when he opened to me,
Speaker 3: he told me Lee had come to him as a
Speaker 3: fully grown woman dressed in a beautiful white gown with beautiful,
Speaker 3: long black hair and surrounded by the most beautiful white
Speaker 3: light he had ever seen, and privately she thanked Sam
Speaker 3: for taking such good care of her back then, and
Speaker 3: then Sam responded, I love you Lee, and Lee responded,
Speaker 3: I love you too, Sam, and reached out and gave
Speaker 3: Sam a hug, and he was absolutely convinced he could
Speaker 3: feel her arms around him. Maybe a few days after that,
Speaker 3: another one of my patients had this experience which just
Speaker 3: seemed to come out of the blue, and his response
Speaker 3: was equally positive. And after a while I thought, she
Speaker 3: wouldn't it be nice if more of my patients could
Speaker 3: experience this? So I went back and looked in my
Speaker 3: notes and kind of figure out what I had done
Speaker 3: that caused the experience to happen.
Speaker 6: And when I added those.
Speaker 3: Extra elements, nearly all of my patients were reporting these
Speaker 3: ADC experiences. As a psychologist, my primary concern is healing people,
Speaker 3: and having worked with combat PTSD guys and now I
Speaker 3: work with many parents who lose children and so on,
Speaker 3: I see the worst of the worst, and my number
Speaker 3: one goal is to bring relief and to bring a
Speaker 3: sense of peace to these people, which IADC does very well,
Speaker 3: so that is my main mission, and as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, the IADC therapy works equally well regardless of
Speaker 3: my patient's beliefs. It works just as well with atheists
Speaker 3: as it does with true believers. The procedure itself seems
Speaker 3: to open people up, regardless of beliefs, to this very
Speaker 3: natural experience. It really does seem to be a permanent cure.
Speaker 3: Probably one of the best physiological theories has to do
Speaker 3: with dream sleep. When we're asleep and dreaming, our brains
Speaker 3: are actually processing and integrating information more rapidly and efficiently
Speaker 3: than when we're awake. And it's been known for some
Speaker 3: time that this increased processing during dreaming causes our eyes
Speaker 3: to dart back and forth, which is why dream sleep
Speaker 3: is called rapidi movement or rem sleep.
Speaker 6: The discovery of EMDR.
Speaker 3: Seems to suggest that you can take a fully awake
Speaker 3: person a mean get her to move ourize in a
Speaker 3: similar fashion. It actually puts the brain into that higher
Speaker 3: processing mode, and we can use it when people are
Speaker 3: wide awake. So it's a very natural healing mechanism that
Speaker 3: we all have. It's just not turned on all the time.
Speaker 3: When I first came out with this in a public
Speaker 3: kind of way. I expected to get criticism from scientific colleagues,
Speaker 3: but in fact, most of the feedback I've gotten from
Speaker 3: those kind of people have been very positive. People in
Speaker 3: very conservative university environments have written me letters and say
Speaker 3: I admire your courage, keep doing what you're doing, and
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. The only people that really
Speaker 3: have harsh words for this are the people I think
Speaker 3: of as die hard skeptics, where they sort of make
Speaker 3: a living out of being a skeptic. And those are
Speaker 3: people generally who have their minds made up about what's
Speaker 3: possible and what can't be possible. But I think the
Speaker 3: true scientific attitude is you follow the evidence induced ADCs
Speaker 3: come across as though they've been through a life review.
Speaker 3: Even to these people who are terrible people in life,
Speaker 3: are always experienced in ADCs as being for the first
Speaker 3: time very aware of all the pain they caused in
Speaker 3: other people. They're very sincere about it. They take responsibility
Speaker 3: for what they do. And I have even worked with
Speaker 3: Vietnam vets who purposefully killed civilians.
Speaker 6: At the time, they were.
Speaker 3: Full of anger and rage, but they had enough courage
Speaker 3: to face their pain and their sadness. Which came out
Speaker 3: later in life, so they could actually grieve the people
Speaker 3: they killed. In all of those cases, forgiveness from that
Speaker 3: deceased person was there.
Speaker 6: But it's not an easy out.
Speaker 3: It's not an easy way to get out of the
Speaker 3: bad things you did, because you have to grieve for
Speaker 3: your victims the same way you'd agree for your own mother.
Speaker 3: You have to connect on that same deep level of humanity.
Speaker 3: IADC is successful in terms of inducing an ADC experience
Speaker 3: about seventy five percent of the time, and so in
Speaker 3: about twenty five percent of cases people don't have the experience.
Speaker 3: It works equally well with pets and some animals. I'll
Speaker 3: give you one of my favorite examples. This guy had
Speaker 3: lost an uncle who was like a father figure to him.
Speaker 6: In his ADC experience, he had a vision of his.
Speaker 3: Uncle standing there and holding the family dog from back then,
Speaker 3: who my patient also grew up with that dog as well.
Speaker 3: But anyway, my patient had a real nice ADC conversation
Speaker 3: with his uncle and felt really good about that. And
Speaker 3: he came up to me the next morning and he said,
Speaker 3: all through the night when he was trying to go
Speaker 3: to sleep, he felt like something was jumping on him,
Speaker 3: and so we went back to it and did the
Speaker 3: procedure again the next morning, and it was indeed the dog.
Speaker 3: And so in his ADC with the dog, he played
Speaker 3: with the dog and you know, hugged the dog and
Speaker 3: the dog locked him and they had a great time together.
Speaker 3: To be eligible for MDR training, one needs to be
Speaker 3: recognized by one state as a licensed mental health practitioner,
Speaker 3: which covers a lot of different professions. You know, psychiatrist, psychologists,
Speaker 3: social workers, master's levels, psychiatric nurses, LPC's, MSW's. All of
Speaker 3: those people are licensed professionals and qualify for EMDR and IADC.
Speaker 3: As simple as it sounds, you know, you're sitting there
Speaker 3: having somebody move their eyes back and forth and so on,
Speaker 3: the work is extremely intense. The analogy is kind of
Speaker 3: like doing surgery. I mean, you're really going into a
Speaker 3: person and going to their deepest pain, and sometimes you
Speaker 3: can get some spinoffs from that, and if you don't
Speaker 3: have a background in mental health, you're not going to
Speaker 3: be able to recognize what those spinoffs are and be
Speaker 3: able to deal with them effectively. Now, IADC at the
Speaker 3: same time, is extremely safe. Out of thousands of cases
Speaker 3: there have been no reported adverse effects of any kind.
Speaker 3: So if it's done properly and with somebody adequately trained,
Speaker 3: there's no problem. But just to go home and kind
Speaker 3: of do this on your own, it can be dangerous.
Speaker 2: Thank you, doctor Bodkin. And now there are therapists who
Speaker 2: do induce to ADC all over the world. You can
Speaker 2: hear more about induced ADCs back on episode sixty six.
Speaker 2: We're going to continue with hypnosis and the Afterlife and
Speaker 2: you're going to hear from the world renowned doctor Brian
Speaker 2: Weiss and past life regressions. Let's go to the break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain.
Speaker 2: Next you'll hear from doctor Brian Weiss, who I believe
Speaker 2: is the most well known past life hypnosis regressionist in
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Speaker 7: I trained in traditional psychiatry and not a believer in
Speaker 7: what I'm talking about today, not in the beginning of
Speaker 7: my career. So I was a chemistry major at Columbia University,
Speaker 7: a very left brain, and then medical school at Yale
Speaker 7: and my internship in medicine and psychiatry at New York
Speaker 7: University's Bellevue Hospital, and then I escaped back to Yale
Speaker 7: to do my psychiatry residency and was a professor at
Speaker 7: several medical schools, writing book chapters and scientific articles and
Speaker 7: papers more than forty and lots of different journals. Basic
Speaker 7: brain research, psychopharmacology research, and things like that, serotonin metabolism.
Speaker 7: That's me very left brain, very scientific. And I was
Speaker 7: chairman of the psychiatry department at Mount Sinai Medical Center
Speaker 7: in Miami Beach and a clinical professor of psychiatry at
Speaker 7: the University of Miami. That's where I live and running
Speaker 7: the department, not looking to change anything. My professional life
Speaker 7: was going very very well. And that's when Catherine, the
Speaker 7: women that's described in my second book, but the first
Speaker 7: book of this spiritual series has called many Lives, Many Masters.
Speaker 7: That's the book I would start with if you want
Speaker 7: to read one of mine. She was a young woman
Speaker 7: from New England, a Catholic women suffering from panic attacks
Speaker 7: and fears and phobias, insomnia, and depression. She was referred
Speaker 7: in by the chairman of the pediatrics department, a friend
Speaker 7: of hers. She was a laboratory technician in this hospital
Speaker 7: where I was chairman of the psychiatry department. I would
Speaker 7: use medications, antidepressants, anti anxiety medicines, but she refused to
Speaker 7: take any because she had a lifelong fear of gagging
Speaker 7: or choking. Couldn't swallow pills, so I used traditional psychotherapy.
Speaker 7: We didn't get that far in a year and a
Speaker 7: half of therapy, and I wanted to use hypnosis, which
Speaker 7: was a technique I had learned at Bellevue when I
Speaker 7: was an intern there, to bring her back into her
Speaker 7: childhood because hypnosis, and by the way, that's just focusing
Speaker 7: the concentration. You don't have to be concerned about what
Speaker 7: it is. Focusing the concentration while your body is very relaxed,
Speaker 7: So you're all hypnotized every day when you're concentrating, and
Speaker 7: you don't hear noises or outside stimuli, reading a good book,
Speaker 7: watching a movie, concentrating on television, paying such attention that
Speaker 7: you don't hear kitchen noises or traffic noises. That is hypnosis.
Speaker 7: It's just concentration, so you can't get stuck, you don't
Speaker 7: give up control. All of those are myths. So you
Speaker 7: can just call it relaxed focus, concentration or deep relaxation,
Speaker 7: and you can open your eyes at any time and
Speaker 7: end it at any time. You're always in control. So
Speaker 7: she resisted for a while, but then as certain events happened.
Speaker 7: In particular, she visited the King tut exhibit that was
Speaker 7: touring the US at the time. She was visiting Chicago,
Speaker 7: and she began to correct the museum guide about everyday
Speaker 7: Egyptian artifacts, and she was correct, but she had never
Speaker 7: studied this piece of history. She was not a historian
Speaker 7: by any means, as I mentioned, a laboratory technician. And
Speaker 7: this sort of convinced her that what I was saying
Speaker 7: about forgotten memories from childhood traumas might be causing her
Speaker 7: symptoms in the present time. So we did the hypnosis.
Speaker 7: She went into a deep state. She went back to childhood,
Speaker 7: did remember some traumas, but her symptoms persisted. The next week,
Speaker 7: back in the deep state, I instructed her to go
Speaker 7: back to where her symptoms first began, and she went
Speaker 7: back nearly four thousand years, because that's where her symptoms
Speaker 7: really first began. Now I didn't believe in this, and
Speaker 7: she didn't either, but she was having the experiences, so
Speaker 7: she believed before I did. She was drowning in that
Speaker 7: lifetime in a flood or tidal wave, and that was
Speaker 7: the cause of her gagging and choking in the current life.
Speaker 7: So after that memory, the symptom resolved, and every week
Speaker 7: as we did this work, all of her symptoms disappeared
Speaker 7: in her case without using any medicines. So that was
Speaker 7: a new frontier for me. But I was very obsessive
Speaker 7: and left brain, and it took more to convince me.
Speaker 7: I knew it wasn't fantasy, it wasn't imagination. Her symptoms
Speaker 7: were disappearing, and imagination doesn't cure lifelong symptoms, severe symptoms.
Speaker 7: But I was having a hard time with the concept
Speaker 7: of past lives. And then about the fifth session, she
Speaker 7: died in one of these ancient lifetimes floated above her body,
Speaker 7: replicating the near death experience work of Elizabeth Koubler Ross
Speaker 7: and Raymond Moody and many others. But she had never
Speaker 7: heard about these people. So after the fifth or sixth session,
Speaker 7: she died, floated above her body, finding the light like
Speaker 7: very much. The after death experience is similar to the
Speaker 7: near death experience, except you don't come back into the
Speaker 7: old body. You come back into a new body. But
Speaker 7: the concept of floating above the light, the life for review,
Speaker 7: all of these things are very, very similar. Catherine came
Speaker 7: into my office in nineteen eighty, so I've been studying
Speaker 7: these concepts past lives for the last many years with
Speaker 7: thousands and thousands of patients, and it's a great deal
Speaker 7: of confirming evidence, validating evidence. We won't go into that today,
Speaker 7: but it's in my books, it's in other books. Researchers
Speaker 7: are documenting this at any rate. This was what changed
Speaker 7: my belief system completely, in floating above, finding this light,
Speaker 7: having herself like rejuvenated by this light, the tiredness of
Speaker 7: the past life disappearing, the fatigue disappearing, revitalizing, refreshing. And
Speaker 7: then she started telling me about my father and my son,
Speaker 7: both of whom who had died, and she didn't know
Speaker 7: anything about my personal life. One theory of psychotherapy is
Speaker 7: you don't want your patient knowing about your own personal
Speaker 7: life because when they start developing thoughts ideas emotions, feelings
Speaker 7: about the therapist. That's called the transference reaction. And then
Speaker 7: it's a psychoanalytic principle to interpret that and your feelings
Speaker 7: back about the patient. This is called countertransference. And your
Speaker 7: analysis of these shifts, these emotions, these projections, This is
Speaker 7: part of the therapy. And I don't even have diplomas
Speaker 7: or anything in my office because the less the person knows,
Speaker 7: the better. And that was a theory of psychoanalysis, and
Speaker 7: that's how I was trained in the sixties and seventies
Speaker 7: when I had my psychiatric training. So she didn't know
Speaker 7: about me. She didn't know about my father, about my son,
Speaker 7: and she starts telling me very specific and detailed information
Speaker 7: about them. She said, my father is there, and she's
Speaker 7: floating in this in between lifetime state. My father is there.
Speaker 7: She tells me his name is Avraum, that's how she
Speaker 7: pronounced it. She's a Catholic woman from New England. She
Speaker 7: said he died from his heart and your daughter is
Speaker 7: named after him. And then she went in to tell
Speaker 7: me why he died and about our relationship. That was
Speaker 7: my father, who died the year before Catherine started in
Speaker 7: nineteen seventy nine. So that was his Hebrew name, but
Speaker 7: nobody ever called him that. He was called Reds because
Speaker 7: of his hair color. And she knew these details. Nobody
Speaker 7: ever knew these details. It was not written down anywhere,
Speaker 7: It didn't have an obituary. Then she said, and your
Speaker 7: son is here. He's very tiny and shining brightly. And
Speaker 7: his heart is important. Also, she mentioned that my father
Speaker 7: died from his heart. He had a heart attack the
Speaker 7: year before. His heart is important also because it's turned
Speaker 7: around backwards. And she started describing that why he died,
Speaker 7: how that was to change my life and so on,
Speaker 7: and that was all true. My son, first son had
Speaker 7: died in nineteen seventy one, so ten years basically before
Speaker 7: Catherine's coming in. Again, this happened without an obituary in
Speaker 7: New York City a decade earlier, and he died of
Speaker 7: a very rare congenital heart defect called total anomalous pulmonary
Speaker 7: venus drainage. Basically, what that is the blood vessels from
Speaker 7: the heart to the lungs are backwards, and the blood's
Speaker 7: going the wrong direction, and the pulmonary hypertension is and
Speaker 7: the heart expands and fails, and there was no real
Speaker 7: therapy for that at the time. Now there are surgeries
Speaker 7: and things to do, but not forty some years ago,
Speaker 7: and she knew all about that, and she was telling
Speaker 7: me these things, and I knew she couldn't know those things.
Speaker 7: She couldn't know these details. And so I remember thinking
Speaker 7: at that time, if she's right about these things, if
Speaker 7: she's right about my father and my son, could she
Speaker 7: also be write about past lives and reincarnation and the
Speaker 7: survival of the soul after the death of the physical body,
Speaker 7: and coming back and karma and everything else she was
Speaker 7: telling me about. And I asked her, how do you
Speaker 7: know this information about my father and my son? And
Speaker 7: she was still in the deep state, floating in between lifetimes,
Speaker 7: and she answered, I'm hearing this. There are Master spirits
Speaker 7: around me. They're giving me this information. They're with your
Speaker 7: father and your son. That's where the title of my
Speaker 7: first book, Many Lives, Many Masters comes from those masters
Speaker 7: that were around her, the master's spirits. After she awakened,
Speaker 7: and she didn't remember anything from this in between lifetime stage.
Speaker 7: She would remember the past lives, but not the messages.
Speaker 7: I asked her, what does masters mean to you? And
Speaker 7: she said, isn't that a golf tournament. That was her answer,
Speaker 7: So I knew she was not consciously aware at that time,
Speaker 7: is somehow it was coming through her. And then as
Speaker 7: we got more detailed messages, it was often referring to
Speaker 7: her in the third person, so that was something a
Speaker 7: different level. But I needed that to sort of convince
Speaker 7: me that what was happening was more. And so week
Speaker 7: by week we went through this therapy, all of her
Speaker 7: symptoms disappeared. Now I couldn't tell anyone about this for
Speaker 7: two reasons. One, I was chairman of the psychia department.
Speaker 7: It was very weird, and it was a conservative hospital
Speaker 7: to confidentiality. But she could tell people, and she told
Speaker 7: her friends and they started coming in for therapy and others,
Speaker 7: and I started researching it, getting more data. Other people
Speaker 7: started getting better, getting rid of symptoms. And I found
Speaker 7: people coming in even if they didn't believe in past lives,
Speaker 7: because it was a way to get rid of symptoms
Speaker 7: and illnesses and diseases, and a fast way in many cases,
Speaker 7: particularly for phobias and psychosomatic disorders, pain these kinds of
Speaker 7: symptoms and illnesses, a very fast, non invasive way, sometimes
Speaker 7: one session, sometimes of course more, but it was amazing,
Speaker 7: and so that was thousands of patients ago. And I've
Speaker 7: been researching it and writing books and giving talks and
Speaker 7: teaching training other therapists to do this work all over
Speaker 7: the world.
Speaker 2: That was doctor Brian Weiss. When we come back from
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 2: and in our last segment together, I'm going to give
Speaker 2: you a little taste of a past life regression. Normally,
Speaker 2: if we were one on one together, we'd be together
Speaker 2: for an hour or two, or in the case of
Speaker 2: Rochelle Wright or doctor Alan Bodkin, it could be five
Speaker 2: hours and several sessions. This is just a little so
Speaker 2: if you're not seated already, I want you to take
Speaker 2: a seat, sit back, relax, and close your eyes. In
Speaker 2: a few moments, you will be more relaxed than you
Speaker 2: knew you would be listening to this episode. I'd like
Speaker 2: you to start by taking a few deep cleansing breaths,
Speaker 2: breathing in through the nose and holding it and releasing
Speaker 2: it out through your mouth. And imagine that these cleansing
Speaker 2: breaths actually know exactly where to go in the body
Speaker 2: to relax any area of tension or stress. Take another
Speaker 2: deep breath, and that magical breath soothes those muscles and
Speaker 2: nerves that need relaxing. Take another deep breath and just
Speaker 2: let go of all of attention and all of the
Speaker 2: cares of the day. I'd like you to remember this
Speaker 2: morning when you woke up, Remember the bed you slept
Speaker 2: in and how it felt. I want you to think
Speaker 2: back to yesterday. Try to pick a memory from yesterday
Speaker 2: of something you did, were someone you were with. And
Speaker 2: now I'd like you to go further back to a
Speaker 2: special event that made you very happy in your life,
Speaker 2: maybe a special time that you were proud of yourself
Speaker 2: or proud of one of your loved ones. Feel how
Speaker 2: it feels to be back in that event. I'd like
Speaker 2: you to think back now to a memory from when
Speaker 2: you were a child, perhaps the school you went to,
Speaker 2: or the friends you played with, or remembering a time
Speaker 2: if you had brothers or sisters. Feel what it was
Speaker 2: like to be the young you. Life has just begun
Speaker 2: for you and everything is possible. I'd like you to
Speaker 2: imagine now and create in your mind's eye being a
Speaker 2: baby in your parents' arms, beautiful new baby. And as
Speaker 2: we move the clock back in time, I'd like you
Speaker 2: to imagine the baby in the womb, and actually before
Speaker 2: entering the womb, in a space called the before life.
Speaker 2: There you realize you're not a baby. You're a wise
Speaker 2: soul who knows that life is an education for you
Speaker 2: and the experiences on planet Earth are the best ways
Speaker 2: for your soul to grow. The before life is a
Speaker 2: beautiful place. It may feel like home. I want you
Speaker 2: to imagine that you are walking down a beautiful hallway
Speaker 2: in the before life and it is just glistening with
Speaker 2: energy and love, just as you would imagine any heavenly
Speaker 2: place would be. At the end of the hall, there
Speaker 2: is a door that says theater, and as you enter it,
Speaker 2: it looks like the most beautiful movie theater you have
Speaker 2: ever been in. You are alone in this theater and
Speaker 2: you choose a comfortable seat on the arm of the seat.
Speaker 2: There are buttons to recline your seat and you can
Speaker 2: lift your legs so that you are so comfortable. You
Speaker 2: also see a remote control with eight buttons on it.
Speaker 2: This is an opportunity to view a past life experience
Speaker 2: something that will help you with your current life. It
Speaker 2: does not matter if you believe in past lives. You
Speaker 2: know the wisdom of your soul, and that this theater
Speaker 2: empowers the soul for your current time on earth. Hold
Speaker 2: that remote and press a button. As you set the
Speaker 2: remote by your side, the theater lights darken and the
Speaker 2: curtain is raised. By watching the movie on the screen,
Speaker 2: your emotions are not personally attached. You can gain wisdom
Speaker 2: and understanding from the person you are watching. You can
Speaker 2: be inspired, feel empathy or compassion, just as you would
Speaker 2: in any show you watch. The blank screen turns to
Speaker 2: an image of the ground, and notice the ground. Is
Speaker 2: it outside, grass or dirt, or maybe inside a building
Speaker 2: or a home. The screen seems covered by a cloudy
Speaker 2: or smoky substance. You start to see the feet of
Speaker 2: the person and what they may or may not be
Speaker 2: wearing on them. As the air begins to clear, you
Speaker 2: see this person. Are they a man, a woman, boy
Speaker 2: or girl, young or old. See some of the images
Speaker 2: from their life, perhaps what they do for work, where,
Speaker 2: if they're young, do they live with their parents? Take
Speaker 2: a few moments now and see any struggles or challenges
Speaker 2: they've had in their life and how they overcame them.
Speaker 2: Feel their sense of accomplishment from this life. Imagine that
Speaker 2: the film is coming to an end, but the person
Speaker 2: has a special message just for you. What is the
Speaker 2: message they give you that you can use here in
Speaker 2: your current life. Thank the person for sharing and let
Speaker 2: them know all of their experiences you will use for
Speaker 2: good in your lifetime. As the curtains begin to clothes
Speaker 2: and the lights begin to come up, you realize that
Speaker 2: you are you, the same you who was just listening
Speaker 2: to Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. But before
Speaker 2: you leave this theater, you realize you are not alone.
Speaker 2: As the lights continue to become brighter, you notice that
Speaker 2: around you are all of your loved ones who have passed,
Speaker 2: and they're all joining you in this theater with smiles
Speaker 2: and joy and hugs and excitement. Even your pets are there.
Speaker 2: There are people you don't recognize and find out that
Speaker 2: they are all your ancestors and they too are there
Speaker 2: to support you. They remind you that they are always
Speaker 2: cheering you on from the invisible space around you, and
Speaker 2: they support you in life, and that you can return
Speaker 2: to this theater anytime you wish. My friend, our time
Speaker 2: is over on our episode today. Feel free to stay
Speaker 2: in this dreamy state with your loved ones or open
Speaker 2: your eyes knowing that you are a powerful, divine soul
Speaker 2: and your life matters. Please remember to visit me at
Speaker 2: Weedo'tdie dot com. And if you enjoy Shades of the Afterlife,
Speaker 2: tell a friend or leave a review on your favorite
Speaker 2: podcast app. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening to
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