1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: supernatural and the unexplained. Get ready now for Shades of 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: Hi. 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: On each episode, we'll decid us the reasons we now 15 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: know that our loved ones have survived physical death and 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: so will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife on 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: our time together today, I want to talk about hypnosis 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: and the afterlife, as in, can we be hypnotized and 19 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: tap into the past, possibly even a past life? If 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: we are flatlining on an operating table and don't remember anything, 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: can we be hypnotized and remember a near death experience. Also, 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: can we be hypnotized and talk to our deceased loved ones. 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: The answer to these questions is yes, but the answer 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: may not be as easy as it may sound. First, 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: let's talk about hypnosis, what it is and what it isn't, 26 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: and then look at some very cool ways people are 27 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: connecting with the afterlife. When I was twelve or thirteen 28 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: years old, I would have slumber parties with my friends 29 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: Andrea and Tina. Tina's dad was a psychiatrist who used 30 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: hip gnosis in his practice and for fun. Andrea wanted 31 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: to be hypnotized, so I played hypnotist as Tina took notes. 32 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: I knelt behind Andrea's head as she laid on the floor. 33 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: I gently rubbed the temples of her forehead and gave 34 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: her a number and asked her to count backwards. Every 35 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: so often, I gave her another number and she had 36 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: to count backward from that. The idea was to confuse 37 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: the mind to induce hypnosis. When I sensed that Andrea 38 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: was in the zone, I asked her what she saw, 39 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: who she was, and what she was wearing. This is 40 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: the first time I probably heard about past lives, and 41 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: Andrea always described that she was someone who lived a long, 42 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: long time ago. For fun, I had her count forwards 43 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: sometimes instead of back, and she would describe someone in 44 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: the future, like living in outer space with purple eyes. 45 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: One occasion, when I regressed her, she scared the heck 46 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: out of us. She said she had been burned at 47 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: the stake for being a witch in Salem. Of course, 48 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: at the time I forgot, we were studying the Salem 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 2: witch Trials in our history class. That experience scared all 50 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: of us not to play around with hypnosis anymore during 51 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: our slumber parties. Then in college, I used to love 52 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: when a hypnotist did a stage show. It appeared that 53 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: the hypnotist made the students do some very funny things. 54 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: We laughed so hard when a person was told they 55 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: were from a different planet and spoke a made up language, 56 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: or when the group on stage was hypnotized and they 57 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: were told the whole audience was naked. One of my 58 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: favorites was when the hypnotist gave a person water to drink, 59 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: told them it was alcohol, and the person began to 60 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: act more and more drunk. It seemed like the hypnotist 61 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: was somehow in control of their subjects. Back in the nineties, 62 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: I actually learned how to hypnotize people. At the time, 63 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: I was trying to lose weight, and I knew hypnosis 64 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: helped for weight loss, to stop smoking and get rid 65 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: of phobias. So I flew to California and took an 66 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: intensive course in hypnosis. That's when I learned what hypnosis 67 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: is and what it isn't. All hypnosis is really self hypnosis. 68 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: A hypnotist cannot make a person do anything they normally 69 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't do. Our conscious mind is always listening. So those 70 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: people on stage were all fun, loving people who happily 71 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: went along with the suggestions the hypnotists gave them, and 72 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: laughs were shared by all. There is a bit of 73 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: what feels like magic in hypnosis, because I believe in hypnosis. 74 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: During the intensive class, the teacher walked up to me 75 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: and said, quite abruptly, sleep, and my head went right 76 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: down on my chest. Then he said, in a few minutes, 77 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: when I say the word green, you'll feel the urge 78 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: to join me on stage. After he asked me to 79 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: open my eyes, he carried on and gave a suggestion 80 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: to someone else in the room. Now this is where 81 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: it becomes really weird, because I honestly never heard him 82 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: say the word green, And suddenly I realized I was 83 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: standing on the stage thinking how did I get here? 84 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: But another time, while my eyes were closed, he asked 85 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: me to think of my favorite song, which at the 86 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: time was one of Phil Collins's greatest hits. He said, 87 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: I'd have this uncontrollable urge to rush to the stage 88 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: and sing it. I opened my eyes and I said, 89 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: no freaking way. You see, I only sing when no 90 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: one else can hear me, unless it's happy birthday. I've 91 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: got that mastard. So I am a certified hypnotherapist, and 92 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: fresh from school, I began to take on clients. I 93 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: explained to people that our conscious mind has to work 94 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: with our subconscious to change habits. That hypnosis can help 95 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: remove the urge to smoke cigarettes, for instance, but they 96 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: had to do their part and change their habits, like 97 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: substituting a glass of water when they wanted to smoke. 98 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: We all naturally fall into the same state of mind 99 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: called hypnosis when we wake up in the morning and 100 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: when we fall asleep at night. It is that stage 101 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: on the edge of sleep. Hypnosis is also called visual imagery. 102 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: Athletes can visualize a competition before it happens and be 103 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: more successful. I've hypnotized students who wanted to do better 104 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: on tests, people with phobias, habits they wanted changed, and 105 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: had lots of success. But long before I was interested 106 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: in the afterlife, one lady told me she wanted to 107 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: be hypnotized to quit smoking. During the session, I noticed 108 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: tears were coming from her eyes and she was smiling. 109 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: When it was over, she paid me and gave me 110 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: a big tip and said it was the best experience 111 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: she's had in a long time. Why because when I 112 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: had her imagine being by a cooling stream and watching 113 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: the urge for cigarettes be carried away, she said her 114 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: deceased son met her by that stream. She got to 115 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: hug him and kiss him, spoke with him, and one 116 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: hundred percent believes he joined her in that experience. I 117 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: spoke with doctor Craig Hogan a couple times on the show, 118 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: and he teaches a self guided afterlife technique that he 119 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: says is eighty six percent effective reuniting people with their 120 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: loved ones. Rochelle Wright teaches a method in her book 121 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: Guided after Life Connections, and doctor Alan Botkin and his 122 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: therapists do what's called induced after death communication, which is 123 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: also the name of his book. While the word hypnosis 124 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: may not be used in these examples, I think a 125 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: better word for what people are experiencing is an altered state. 126 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: You've had altered states many times, and every day you 127 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: experience them daydreaming or have you ever been out for 128 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: a drive and you thought, how did I get here 129 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: so fast? Sometimes we are so engrossed by a good 130 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: book or a movie that we pay no attention to 131 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: anything else. That's an altered state. If you follow a 132 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: meditation and you actually feel like you're standing by a 133 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: stream or lying on a beach, feeling the sand beneath 134 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: you and maybe a gentle breeze, that's an altered state. 135 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: There is a lot of value in having someone lead 136 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: you into an altered state, because left to our own devices, 137 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: it's easy to fall asleep. We can also make recordings 138 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: and lead ourselves into that state of self. Hypnosis practitioners 139 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: often ask that we're seated straight up in a chair 140 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: because that keeps us from falling asleep. Back in twenty nineteen, 141 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: I was a speaker at the Ions conference that's the 142 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: International Association for Near Death Studies and a cardiologist, a psychiatrist, 143 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: and a master hypnotherapist did a presentation called Hypnotic Recall 144 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: of Near Death Experiences and shared their research after regressing 145 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: twenty cardiac arrest patients who didn't remember anything until they 146 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: were hypnotized and they remembered having a near death experience. 147 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: These doctors believe that hypnotic recall brings very positive and 148 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: transformative emotions to people because so many people who suffer 149 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,239 Speaker 2: a cardiac arrest have long term problems such as anxiety, 150 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: PTSD and depression, so these experiences can be very healing. 151 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 2: I'd like to give you some links that you can 152 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: refer back to. First, that self guided afterlife connection can 153 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: be found at Afterlifeinstitute dot org, forward slash, self dash Guided. 154 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: Scott Milligan and I do a monthly trance in the 155 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: Altered States class to help us blend with that love 156 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: from the unseen world, and it also helps with spiritual 157 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: development and gives us a lot of peace and healing 158 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: in our lives. Of course, that's that we don't die 159 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: at dot com. In our next segment, you'll hear words 160 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: from doctor Alan Botkin and you can find out more 161 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: about him and his global therapists that facilitate after death 162 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: communications at induced ADC dot com. In our third segment, together, 163 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: you'll hear from doctor Brian Weiss, author of many books 164 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: including Many Lives, Many Masters and Only Love Is Real, 165 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 2: and find his hypnotic regression audios on his website Ranweiss 166 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 2: dot com. Also, back in episode one hundred and fifty 167 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: of this show, I included a visual journey to connect 168 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: you with your loved ones, So be sure and go 169 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: back and check that out. Just recently, back on episode 170 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: one eighty four, we talked to dream expert doctor Janet 171 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: Pete Dolato. She gave us a tool we can use 172 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: to connect with our deceased loved ones through what she 173 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: calls is the dream gate. It's when we're still sleepy, 174 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: just waking up in the morning, we create a gate 175 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: and imagine our loved ones standing behind it because we're 176 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: still in that altered state. It allows an opportunity to 177 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: have a day dream, one in which our loved ones 178 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: communicate with us. The question is always is it really 179 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: them or is it our imagination? Doctor Janet says we 180 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: should never say just our imagination because Imagination is the 181 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: tool used for communication. Even the best mediums, say the 182 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: spirit world, draw from their imagination and create images so 183 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: that they can give them in a reading. We're going 184 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: to go into our first break now, and when we 185 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: come back, you're going to hear from doctor Alan Botkin. 186 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: He's the one from INDUCEDADC dot com, the name of 187 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: his book, Induced After Death Communication. Then you'll meet the 188 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: famous doctor Brian Weiss, followed by a surprise from me 189 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: to you. You got to love Sandra Surprises. Okay, let's 190 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: head to the break and we'll be right back. 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Check out all our shows on the 201 00:13:51,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you find your favorite shows. 202 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. Next, 203 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: I'd like you to hear from doctor Alan Bodkin, who 204 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: has written a book called Induced After Death Communication, A 205 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: Miraculous Therapy for Grief and Loss, and how he accidentally 206 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: learned about after death communication. 207 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: I had been working on an impatient post traumatic stress 208 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: disorder unit at a local VA hospital for a number 209 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: of years, treating combat veterans with traumatic memories and pretty 210 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: severe PTSD, and for a while, the only available treatments 211 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: were what were called exposure therapies, where you'd have the 212 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: patient talk about the traumatic event repeatedly in a safe 213 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: and supportive and non mental environment, and the idea was 214 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: that over time the emotional intensity associated with those memories 215 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: would decrease. At least that's theoretically what was supposed to happen. 216 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: The work was extremely difficult, mostly for our patients. When 217 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: they did work on a traumatic memory during the day, 218 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: they were pretty much awake all night, and if they 219 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: did fall asleep, they generally had nightmares of the trauma 220 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: they worked on during the day. This was an inpatient unit, 221 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: so we had PM and night shift who always reported 222 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: back to us and then a brand new therapy came 223 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: out in the early nineties and we were one of 224 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: the first to use it, and it was called Eye 225 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: movement Desensitization and Reprocessing, or EMDR, and the idea with 226 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: that was is you have the patient to tend to 227 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: a certain aspect of their traumatic memory while at the 228 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: same time you'd get his or her eyes moving back 229 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: and forth left to right in a particular rhythmic fashion. 230 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 6: Now, when we. 231 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: First heard about it, that sounded a little silly to us, 232 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: but we were at least open minded enough to give 233 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: it a try, and we found that oftentimes in a 234 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: single session we were able to process a traumatic memory 235 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: to the point where patients would say things like, you know, Doc, 236 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: this is the first time when I remember what happened, 237 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: I feel like it's finally over and it feels far 238 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: away to me, which was the opposite of a traumatic memory, 239 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: which is you don't only remember it, you also relived 240 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: the moment when you do remember it. But I movement 241 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: did a beautiful job of processing a traumatic memory. Well, 242 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: I had been working with EMDR for a little while 243 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: and there were parts about the standard protocol that didn't 244 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: make sense to me. So I did a lot of 245 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: experimentation with it, and most of my ideas didn't seem 246 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: to help, but I did hit upon a number of 247 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: changes that seemed to make EMBR work even better and 248 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: more rapidly. So one day I was after I had 249 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: made that final change, I was working with a patient. 250 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: When we were done, at the end of the session, 251 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: opened his eyes and said that the deceased person he 252 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: was grieving had come to him in this beautiful vision 253 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: and told him that she was okay, and so on 254 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: and so forth, and my patient was absolutely convinced that 255 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: this person's spirit had come to him. Well, at the time, 256 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: I didn't know what these experiences were even called. I 257 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: didn't know there was a name for him, which is 258 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: after death communication or ADC. And these experiences occur spontaneously 259 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: in the general population, so they're not new, and they've 260 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: been known to assist in the grieving process. So anyway, 261 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 3: when my patient had the experience, I thought maybe he 262 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: had hallucinated, and I was concerned about him, that his 263 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: psychological condition had deteriorated which caused him to hallucinate. But 264 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: he left the office feeling joyous and happy, and he 265 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: slept well that night and his joy lasted into the 266 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: next day, into the next week, and so on and 267 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: so forth. The case I just briefly referred to was 268 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: the first time that accidentally happened in therapy. And I 269 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: was working with a veteran I call Sam, and he 270 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: had become very close to an orphan Vietnamese girl named 271 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: Lee in Vietnam. She was about ten years old, and 272 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: he had plans to adopt her and bring her back 273 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: home with him. 274 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 6: To the States. 275 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: He didn't know at the time the government wouldn't have 276 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: allowed that, but he didn't know that at the time. Anyway, 277 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: one day she was shot and killed right in front 278 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: of him, and that was pretty much the cause of 279 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: his psychological undoing in Vietnam. And he after that volunteered 280 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: for dangerous missions and so on, and he covered his 281 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: sadness with his rage. Well, when I was working with 282 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: him with the eye movements, with the early version of 283 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: IADC therapy, we processed all those really painful emotions, and 284 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: then I gave him an extra set of eye movements, 285 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 3: and he closed his eyes, and when he opened to me, 286 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 3: he told me Lee had come to him as a 287 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: fully grown woman dressed in a beautiful white gown with beautiful, 288 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: long black hair and surrounded by the most beautiful white 289 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: light he had ever seen, and privately she thanked Sam 290 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: for taking such good care of her back then, and 291 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: then Sam responded, I love you Lee, and Lee responded, 292 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: I love you too, Sam, and reached out and gave 293 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: Sam a hug, and he was absolutely convinced he could 294 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: feel her arms around him. Maybe a few days after that, 295 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: another one of my patients had this experience which just 296 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: seemed to come out of the blue, and his response 297 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: was equally positive. And after a while I thought, she 298 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: wouldn't it be nice if more of my patients could 299 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: experience this? So I went back and looked in my 300 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: notes and kind of figure out what I had done 301 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: that caused the experience to happen. 302 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 6: And when I added those. 303 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: Extra elements, nearly all of my patients were reporting these 304 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: ADC experiences. As a psychologist, my primary concern is healing people, 305 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 3: and having worked with combat PTSD guys and now I 306 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: work with many parents who lose children and so on, 307 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 3: I see the worst of the worst, and my number 308 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: one goal is to bring relief and to bring a 309 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 3: sense of peace to these people, which IADC does very well, 310 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: so that is my main mission, and as a matter 311 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: of fact, the IADC therapy works equally well regardless of 312 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: my patient's beliefs. It works just as well with atheists 313 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: as it does with true believers. The procedure itself seems 314 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: to open people up, regardless of beliefs, to this very 315 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: natural experience. It really does seem to be a permanent cure. 316 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: Probably one of the best physiological theories has to do 317 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: with dream sleep. When we're asleep and dreaming, our brains 318 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: are actually processing and integrating information more rapidly and efficiently 319 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 3: than when we're awake. And it's been known for some 320 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: time that this increased processing during dreaming causes our eyes 321 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 3: to dart back and forth, which is why dream sleep 322 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: is called rapidi movement or rem sleep. 323 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 6: The discovery of EMDR. 324 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: Seems to suggest that you can take a fully awake 325 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 3: person a mean get her to move ourize in a 326 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 3: similar fashion. It actually puts the brain into that higher 327 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: processing mode, and we can use it when people are 328 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: wide awake. So it's a very natural healing mechanism that 329 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: we all have. It's just not turned on all the time. 330 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: When I first came out with this in a public 331 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: kind of way. I expected to get criticism from scientific colleagues, 332 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: but in fact, most of the feedback I've gotten from 333 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: those kind of people have been very positive. People in 334 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: very conservative university environments have written me letters and say 335 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 3: I admire your courage, keep doing what you're doing, and 336 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: so on and so forth. The only people that really 337 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: have harsh words for this are the people I think 338 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: of as die hard skeptics, where they sort of make 339 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: a living out of being a skeptic. And those are 340 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: people generally who have their minds made up about what's 341 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: possible and what can't be possible. But I think the 342 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: true scientific attitude is you follow the evidence induced ADCs 343 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: come across as though they've been through a life review. 344 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: Even to these people who are terrible people in life, 345 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: are always experienced in ADCs as being for the first 346 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: time very aware of all the pain they caused in 347 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: other people. They're very sincere about it. They take responsibility 348 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: for what they do. And I have even worked with 349 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: Vietnam vets who purposefully killed civilians. 350 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 6: At the time, they were. 351 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: Full of anger and rage, but they had enough courage 352 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: to face their pain and their sadness. Which came out 353 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: later in life, so they could actually grieve the people 354 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: they killed. In all of those cases, forgiveness from that 355 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: deceased person was there. 356 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 6: But it's not an easy out. 357 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: It's not an easy way to get out of the 358 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: bad things you did, because you have to grieve for 359 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: your victims the same way you'd agree for your own mother. 360 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: You have to connect on that same deep level of humanity. 361 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: IADC is successful in terms of inducing an ADC experience 362 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: about seventy five percent of the time, and so in 363 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: about twenty five percent of cases people don't have the experience. 364 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: It works equally well with pets and some animals. I'll 365 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: give you one of my favorite examples. This guy had 366 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: lost an uncle who was like a father figure to him. 367 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 6: In his ADC experience, he had a vision of his. 368 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 3: Uncle standing there and holding the family dog from back then, 369 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: who my patient also grew up with that dog as well. 370 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: But anyway, my patient had a real nice ADC conversation 371 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: with his uncle and felt really good about that. And 372 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: he came up to me the next morning and he said, 373 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: all through the night when he was trying to go 374 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: to sleep, he felt like something was jumping on him, 375 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: and so we went back to it and did the 376 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 3: procedure again the next morning, and it was indeed the dog. 377 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: And so in his ADC with the dog, he played 378 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 3: with the dog and you know, hugged the dog and 379 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: the dog locked him and they had a great time together. 380 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: To be eligible for MDR training, one needs to be 381 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: recognized by one state as a licensed mental health practitioner, 382 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: which covers a lot of different professions. You know, psychiatrist, psychologists, 383 00:24:53,000 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: social workers, master's levels, psychiatric nurses, LPC's, MSW's. All of 384 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: those people are licensed professionals and qualify for EMDR and IADC. 385 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: As simple as it sounds, you know, you're sitting there 386 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: having somebody move their eyes back and forth and so on, 387 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: the work is extremely intense. The analogy is kind of 388 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: like doing surgery. I mean, you're really going into a 389 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 3: person and going to their deepest pain, and sometimes you 390 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: can get some spinoffs from that, and if you don't 391 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: have a background in mental health, you're not going to 392 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: be able to recognize what those spinoffs are and be 393 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: able to deal with them effectively. Now, IADC at the 394 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: same time, is extremely safe. Out of thousands of cases 395 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: there have been no reported adverse effects of any kind. 396 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: So if it's done properly and with somebody adequately trained, 397 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: there's no problem. But just to go home and kind 398 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: of do this on your own, it can be dangerous. 399 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, doctor Bodkin. And now there are therapists who 400 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: do induce to ADC all over the world. You can 401 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: hear more about induced ADCs back on episode sixty six. 402 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: We're going to continue with hypnosis and the Afterlife and 403 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: you're going to hear from the world renowned doctor Brian 404 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: Weiss and past life regressions. 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I'm Sanders Champlain. 432 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: Next you'll hear from doctor Brian Weiss, who I believe 433 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: is the most well known past life hypnosis regressionist in 434 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: the world. 435 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 7: I trained in traditional psychiatry and not a believer in 436 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 7: what I'm talking about today, not in the beginning of 437 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 7: my career. So I was a chemistry major at Columbia University, 438 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 7: a very left brain, and then medical school at Yale 439 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 7: and my internship in medicine and psychiatry at New York 440 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 7: University's Bellevue Hospital, and then I escaped back to Yale 441 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 7: to do my psychiatry residency and was a professor at 442 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 7: several medical schools, writing book chapters and scientific articles and 443 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 7: papers more than forty and lots of different journals. Basic 444 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 7: brain research, psychopharmacology research, and things like that, serotonin metabolism. 445 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 7: That's me very left brain, very scientific. And I was 446 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 7: chairman of the psychiatry department at Mount Sinai Medical Center 447 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 7: in Miami Beach and a clinical professor of psychiatry at 448 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 7: the University of Miami. That's where I live and running 449 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 7: the department, not looking to change anything. My professional life 450 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 7: was going very very well. And that's when Catherine, the 451 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 7: women that's described in my second book, but the first 452 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 7: book of this spiritual series has called many Lives, Many Masters. 453 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 7: That's the book I would start with if you want 454 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 7: to read one of mine. She was a young woman 455 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 7: from New England, a Catholic women suffering from panic attacks 456 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 7: and fears and phobias, insomnia, and depression. She was referred 457 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 7: in by the chairman of the pediatrics department, a friend 458 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 7: of hers. She was a laboratory technician in this hospital 459 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 7: where I was chairman of the psychiatry department. I would 460 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 7: use medications, antidepressants, anti anxiety medicines, but she refused to 461 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 7: take any because she had a lifelong fear of gagging 462 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 7: or choking. Couldn't swallow pills, so I used traditional psychotherapy. 463 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 7: We didn't get that far in a year and a 464 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 7: half of therapy, and I wanted to use hypnosis, which 465 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 7: was a technique I had learned at Bellevue when I 466 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 7: was an intern there, to bring her back into her 467 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 7: childhood because hypnosis, and by the way, that's just focusing 468 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 7: the concentration. You don't have to be concerned about what 469 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 7: it is. Focusing the concentration while your body is very relaxed, 470 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 7: So you're all hypnotized every day when you're concentrating, and 471 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 7: you don't hear noises or outside stimuli, reading a good book, 472 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 7: watching a movie, concentrating on television, paying such attention that 473 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 7: you don't hear kitchen noises or traffic noises. That is hypnosis. 474 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: It's just concentration, so you can't get stuck, you don't 475 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 7: give up control. All of those are myths. So you 476 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 7: can just call it relaxed focus, concentration or deep relaxation, 477 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 7: and you can open your eyes at any time and 478 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 7: end it at any time. You're always in control. So 479 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 7: she resisted for a while, but then as certain events happened. 480 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 7: In particular, she visited the King tut exhibit that was 481 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 7: touring the US at the time. She was visiting Chicago, 482 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 7: and she began to correct the museum guide about everyday 483 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 7: Egyptian artifacts, and she was correct, but she had never 484 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 7: studied this piece of history. She was not a historian 485 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 7: by any means, as I mentioned, a laboratory technician. And 486 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 7: this sort of convinced her that what I was saying 487 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 7: about forgotten memories from childhood traumas might be causing her 488 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 7: symptoms in the present time. So we did the hypnosis. 489 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 7: She went into a deep state. She went back to childhood, 490 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 7: did remember some traumas, but her symptoms persisted. The next week, 491 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 7: back in the deep state, I instructed her to go 492 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 7: back to where her symptoms first began, and she went 493 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 7: back nearly four thousand years, because that's where her symptoms 494 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 7: really first began. Now I didn't believe in this, and 495 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 7: she didn't either, but she was having the experiences, so 496 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 7: she believed before I did. She was drowning in that 497 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 7: lifetime in a flood or tidal wave, and that was 498 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 7: the cause of her gagging and choking in the current life. 499 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 7: So after that memory, the symptom resolved, and every week 500 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 7: as we did this work, all of her symptoms disappeared 501 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 7: in her case without using any medicines. So that was 502 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 7: a new frontier for me. But I was very obsessive 503 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 7: and left brain, and it took more to convince me. 504 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 7: I knew it wasn't fantasy, it wasn't imagination. Her symptoms 505 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 7: were disappearing, and imagination doesn't cure lifelong symptoms, severe symptoms. 506 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 7: But I was having a hard time with the concept 507 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 7: of past lives. And then about the fifth session, she 508 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 7: died in one of these ancient lifetimes floated above her body, 509 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 7: replicating the near death experience work of Elizabeth Koubler Ross 510 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 7: and Raymond Moody and many others. But she had never 511 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 7: heard about these people. So after the fifth or sixth session, 512 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 7: she died, floated above her body, finding the light like 513 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 7: very much. The after death experience is similar to the 514 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 7: near death experience, except you don't come back into the 515 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 7: old body. You come back into a new body. But 516 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 7: the concept of floating above the light, the life for review, 517 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 7: all of these things are very, very similar. Catherine came 518 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 7: into my office in nineteen eighty, so I've been studying 519 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 7: these concepts past lives for the last many years with 520 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 7: thousands and thousands of patients, and it's a great deal 521 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 7: of confirming evidence, validating evidence. We won't go into that today, 522 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 7: but it's in my books, it's in other books. Researchers 523 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 7: are documenting this at any rate. This was what changed 524 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 7: my belief system completely, in floating above, finding this light, 525 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 7: having herself like rejuvenated by this light, the tiredness of 526 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 7: the past life disappearing, the fatigue disappearing, revitalizing, refreshing. And 527 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 7: then she started telling me about my father and my son, 528 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 7: both of whom who had died, and she didn't know 529 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 7: anything about my personal life. One theory of psychotherapy is 530 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 7: you don't want your patient knowing about your own personal 531 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 7: life because when they start developing thoughts ideas emotions, feelings 532 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 7: about the therapist. That's called the transference reaction. And then 533 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 7: it's a psychoanalytic principle to interpret that and your feelings 534 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 7: back about the patient. This is called countertransference. And your 535 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 7: analysis of these shifts, these emotions, these projections, This is 536 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 7: part of the therapy. And I don't even have diplomas 537 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 7: or anything in my office because the less the person knows, 538 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 7: the better. And that was a theory of psychoanalysis, and 539 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 7: that's how I was trained in the sixties and seventies 540 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 7: when I had my psychiatric training. So she didn't know 541 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 7: about me. She didn't know about my father, about my son, 542 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 7: and she starts telling me very specific and detailed information 543 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 7: about them. She said, my father is there, and she's 544 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 7: floating in this in between lifetime state. My father is there. 545 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 7: She tells me his name is Avraum, that's how she 546 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 7: pronounced it. She's a Catholic woman from New England. She 547 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 7: said he died from his heart and your daughter is 548 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 7: named after him. And then she went in to tell 549 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 7: me why he died and about our relationship. That was 550 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 7: my father, who died the year before Catherine started in 551 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 7: nineteen seventy nine. So that was his Hebrew name, but 552 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 7: nobody ever called him that. He was called Reds because 553 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 7: of his hair color. And she knew these details. Nobody 554 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 7: ever knew these details. It was not written down anywhere, 555 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 7: It didn't have an obituary. Then she said, and your 556 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 7: son is here. He's very tiny and shining brightly. And 557 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 7: his heart is important. Also, she mentioned that my father 558 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 7: died from his heart. He had a heart attack the 559 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 7: year before. His heart is important also because it's turned 560 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 7: around backwards. And she started describing that why he died, 561 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 7: how that was to change my life and so on, 562 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 7: and that was all true. My son, first son had 563 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 7: died in nineteen seventy one, so ten years basically before 564 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 7: Catherine's coming in. Again, this happened without an obituary in 565 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 7: New York City a decade earlier, and he died of 566 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 7: a very rare congenital heart defect called total anomalous pulmonary 567 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 7: venus drainage. Basically, what that is the blood vessels from 568 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 7: the heart to the lungs are backwards, and the blood's 569 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 7: going the wrong direction, and the pulmonary hypertension is and 570 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 7: the heart expands and fails, and there was no real 571 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 7: therapy for that at the time. Now there are surgeries 572 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 7: and things to do, but not forty some years ago, 573 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 7: and she knew all about that, and she was telling 574 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 7: me these things, and I knew she couldn't know those things. 575 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 7: She couldn't know these details. And so I remember thinking 576 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 7: at that time, if she's right about these things, if 577 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 7: she's right about my father and my son, could she 578 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 7: also be write about past lives and reincarnation and the 579 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 7: survival of the soul after the death of the physical body, 580 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 7: and coming back and karma and everything else she was 581 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 7: telling me about. And I asked her, how do you 582 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 7: know this information about my father and my son? And 583 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 7: she was still in the deep state, floating in between lifetimes, 584 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 7: and she answered, I'm hearing this. There are Master spirits 585 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 7: around me. They're giving me this information. They're with your 586 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 7: father and your son. That's where the title of my 587 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 7: first book, Many Lives, Many Masters comes from those masters 588 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 7: that were around her, the master's spirits. After she awakened, 589 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 7: and she didn't remember anything from this in between lifetime stage. 590 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 7: She would remember the past lives, but not the messages. 591 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 7: I asked her, what does masters mean to you? And 592 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 7: she said, isn't that a golf tournament. That was her answer, 593 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 7: So I knew she was not consciously aware at that time, 594 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 7: is somehow it was coming through her. And then as 595 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 7: we got more detailed messages, it was often referring to 596 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 7: her in the third person, so that was something a 597 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 7: different level. But I needed that to sort of convince 598 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 7: me that what was happening was more. And so week 599 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 7: by week we went through this therapy, all of her 600 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 7: symptoms disappeared. Now I couldn't tell anyone about this for 601 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 7: two reasons. One, I was chairman of the psychia department. 602 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 7: It was very weird, and it was a conservative hospital 603 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 7: to confidentiality. But she could tell people, and she told 604 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 7: her friends and they started coming in for therapy and others, 605 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 7: and I started researching it, getting more data. Other people 606 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 7: started getting better, getting rid of symptoms. And I found 607 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 7: people coming in even if they didn't believe in past lives, 608 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 7: because it was a way to get rid of symptoms 609 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 7: and illnesses and diseases, and a fast way in many cases, 610 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 7: particularly for phobias and psychosomatic disorders, pain these kinds of 611 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 7: symptoms and illnesses, a very fast, non invasive way, sometimes 612 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 7: one session, sometimes of course more, but it was amazing, 613 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 7: and so that was thousands of patients ago. And I've 614 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 7: been researching it and writing books and giving talks and 615 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 7: teaching training other therapists to do this work all over 616 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 7: the world. 617 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: That was doctor Brian Weiss. When we come back from 618 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 2: the break, I've got a little treatment for you and 619 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 2: you can enjoy a hypnotic regression session with me. You're 620 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and 621 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 622 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 4: Keep it here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 623 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 4: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 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Normally, 640 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 2: if we were one on one together, we'd be together 641 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 2: for an hour or two, or in the case of 642 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: Rochelle Wright or doctor Alan Bodkin, it could be five 643 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 2: hours and several sessions. This is just a little so 644 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: if you're not seated already, I want you to take 645 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 2: a seat, sit back, relax, and close your eyes. In 646 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 2: a few moments, you will be more relaxed than you 647 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 2: knew you would be listening to this episode. I'd like 648 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 2: you to start by taking a few deep cleansing breaths, 649 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: breathing in through the nose and holding it and releasing 650 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 2: it out through your mouth. And imagine that these cleansing 651 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 2: breaths actually know exactly where to go in the body 652 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 2: to relax any area of tension or stress. Take another 653 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: deep breath, and that magical breath soothes those muscles and 654 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: nerves that need relaxing. Take another deep breath and just 655 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 2: let go of all of attention and all of the 656 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 2: cares of the day. I'd like you to remember this 657 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: morning when you woke up, Remember the bed you slept 658 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 2: in and how it felt. I want you to think 659 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 2: back to yesterday. Try to pick a memory from yesterday 660 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 2: of something you did, were someone you were with. And 661 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: now I'd like you to go further back to a 662 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 2: special event that made you very happy in your life, 663 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: maybe a special time that you were proud of yourself 664 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 2: or proud of one of your loved ones. Feel how 665 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 2: it feels to be back in that event. I'd like 666 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 2: you to think back now to a memory from when 667 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 2: you were a child, perhaps the school you went to, 668 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 2: or the friends you played with, or remembering a time 669 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 2: if you had brothers or sisters. Feel what it was 670 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 2: like to be the young you. Life has just begun 671 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 2: for you and everything is possible. I'd like you to 672 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 2: imagine now and create in your mind's eye being a 673 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: baby in your parents' arms, beautiful new baby. And as 674 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: we move the clock back in time, I'd like you 675 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: to imagine the baby in the womb, and actually before 676 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 2: entering the womb, in a space called the before life. 677 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 2: There you realize you're not a baby. You're a wise 678 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 2: soul who knows that life is an education for you 679 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 2: and the experiences on planet Earth are the best ways 680 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 2: for your soul to grow. The before life is a 681 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 2: beautiful place. It may feel like home. I want you 682 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 2: to imagine that you are walking down a beautiful hallway 683 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: in the before life and it is just glistening with 684 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: energy and love, just as you would imagine any heavenly 685 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 2: place would be. At the end of the hall, there 686 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 2: is a door that says theater, and as you enter it, 687 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 2: it looks like the most beautiful movie theater you have 688 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 2: ever been in. You are alone in this theater and 689 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 2: you choose a comfortable seat on the arm of the seat. 690 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: There are buttons to recline your seat and you can 691 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 2: lift your legs so that you are so comfortable. You 692 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 2: also see a remote control with eight buttons on it. 693 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 2: This is an opportunity to view a past life experience 694 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 2: something that will help you with your current life. It 695 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 2: does not matter if you believe in past lives. You 696 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: know the wisdom of your soul, and that this theater 697 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 2: empowers the soul for your current time on earth. Hold 698 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 2: that remote and press a button. As you set the 699 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 2: remote by your side, the theater lights darken and the 700 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 2: curtain is raised. By watching the movie on the screen, 701 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 2: your emotions are not personally attached. You can gain wisdom 702 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 2: and understanding from the person you are watching. You can 703 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 2: be inspired, feel empathy or compassion, just as you would 704 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 2: in any show you watch. The blank screen turns to 705 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 2: an image of the ground, and notice the ground. Is 706 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: it outside, grass or dirt, or maybe inside a building 707 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 2: or a home. The screen seems covered by a cloudy 708 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 2: or smoky substance. You start to see the feet of 709 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: the person and what they may or may not be 710 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 2: wearing on them. As the air begins to clear, you 711 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 2: see this person. Are they a man, a woman, boy 712 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:17,760 Speaker 2: or girl, young or old. See some of the images 713 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: from their life, perhaps what they do for work, where, 714 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 2: if they're young, do they live with their parents? Take 715 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 2: a few moments now and see any struggles or challenges 716 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 2: they've had in their life and how they overcame them. 717 00:49:53,880 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: Feel their sense of accomplishment from this life. Imagine that 718 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: the film is coming to an end, but the person 719 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 2: has a special message just for you. What is the 720 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 2: message they give you that you can use here in 721 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 2: your current life. Thank the person for sharing and let 722 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 2: them know all of their experiences you will use for 723 00:50:47,040 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 2: good in your lifetime. As the curtains begin to clothes 724 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 2: and the lights begin to come up, you realize that 725 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 2: you are you, the same you who was just listening 726 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 2: to Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. But before 727 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 2: you leave this theater, you realize you are not alone. 728 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 2: As the lights continue to become brighter, you notice that 729 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: around you are all of your loved ones who have passed, 730 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 2: and they're all joining you in this theater with smiles 731 00:51:38,760 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 2: and joy and hugs and excitement. Even your pets are there. 732 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 2: There are people you don't recognize and find out that 733 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 2: they are all your ancestors and they too are there 734 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:29,800 Speaker 2: to support you. They remind you that they are always 735 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: cheering you on from the invisible space around you, and 736 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 2: they support you in life, and that you can return 737 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 2: to this theater anytime you wish. My friend, our time 738 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 2: is over on our episode today. Feel free to stay 739 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 2: in this dreamy state with your loved ones or open 740 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,320 Speaker 2: your eyes knowing that you are a powerful, divine soul 741 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 2: and your life matters. Please remember to visit me at 742 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 2: Weedo'tdie dot com. And if you enjoy Shades of the Afterlife, 743 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 2: tell a friend or leave a review on your favorite 744 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 2: podcast app. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening to 745 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 2: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 746 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 2: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 747 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: And if you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, 748 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: wait until you hear the next one. Thank you for 749 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: listening to the iHeartRadio and Host to Coast DAM Paranormal 750 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: Podcast Network.