1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 3: The World's original podcast. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 5: Like, I don't understand how a child or a dog 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 5: doesn't have a home. We all, well, most people, except 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 5: for Paul have a sauce spot. 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 4: For these dogs. You know, Bridget moynihan also older than Tom. 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 4: I would think so. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 6: If if at that point she was older, she's older now, 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 6: So you know what Paul shows, right, Sometimes they just 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 6: drive me crazy there It is good one. 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 4: Hey, you're in North Carolina. 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 7: Did you happen to drive past the Drake May passing 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 7: camp that fulls over. 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 4: Like on the side of the road. Hey, y'all you 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: got no receivers? Yell at bombs? 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: Alright? 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: You think we'd get flagged on YouTube if we tried 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: to do that waterboarding each other in the studio. 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: I'll try it. 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: If he waterboarded, Paul would diet pepsi. He would just 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: take it in. He would be like, yeah, like heaven, 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: I gonna put it up my nose. It doesn't matter, 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 4: it's diet pepsi. I'll take it any hole. I can 27 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: get It would be so cool. 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 5: If they just ran out in new uniforms and no 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: one had any idea. 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: Paul wouldn't even notice. 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 4: For deals, buy a Toyota dot. 33 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 5: Com Patriot's Unfiltered. 34 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 7: It is Tuesday here at Jillette Stadium and we are 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 7: a week in a day away from the first public 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 7: practice for training camp. 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: Can wait or can't wait? 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: I can't wait for the season. Yeah, I can always 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: wait for the starting camp. 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 8: I get excited for that first, like, hey, we're here, 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 8: and then all right, let's get the pads, and then 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 8: all right, let's get the preseason. 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: But I can get excited. 44 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: I get checked up when the season starts. That that 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: you know, the kickoff, that Thursday night kickoff. I always 46 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: look forward to that game. And then week one. 47 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but well it's it's Paul, this is Deuce's time. 48 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: It's Paul and color coordinated. 49 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: Look, not only is the same color, but both polo 50 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 3: shirts just nice. 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: We thought it extent our tans from vacation. 52 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 2: I was going to initially apologize for missing shows last week, 53 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: but evidently I was the topic of the. 54 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: Show, Well, whoever's not here? 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: Seventeen references to whoever's not here? 56 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: Is the topic of the show? 57 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: Alex in matter in the booth, it's me is Alice 58 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 5: coming down at some point? 59 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: Or is she busy? 60 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: She's busy right now, but maybe we'll be grace with 61 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: her presents. I don't know. 62 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: Okay, nice? 63 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 4: All right? 64 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 5: So yes, like I said, a week in, a day 65 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: away from the first training camp. On the eighteenth, quarterbacks 66 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 5: and rookies will be here. Uh so that's this Friday. 67 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 8: Probably start getting like some pup stuff of who's healthy, 68 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 8: a lot of number of players that were limited during 69 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 8: the spring. Who's ready to go? I think that's a 70 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 8: great question. I mean, Jared Wilson, mac Hollins, you know. 71 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: A couple off the top citys Stefan Diggs. Oh, that's 72 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: that's a good one about him, that guy. 73 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 8: But that's I think always the first thing that that 74 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 8: kind of drops. All right, who's not quite ready to go? 75 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 8: In the past, you speculated maybe they didn't pass the 76 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 8: conditioning test. I don't know if that's still a thing 77 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 8: around here with Rabel that's how it works, but that'll 78 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 8: be the first. 79 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 4: Thing to drop. Probably the end of this week. 80 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 8: I think usually guys report back, they get checked out, 81 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 8: and then you find out who's not quite ready to 82 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 8: go yet. 83 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, because I think injured guys would be in 84 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: that quarterback rookie kind of group right right, have existing 85 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: injuries check. 86 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 8: And I mean July to Bay another one who got 87 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 8: hurt his calf and was out then missed the rest 88 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 8: of the spring. So a number of interesting guys that 89 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 8: that should be competing for jobs that we'll see what 90 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 8: their health status is. 91 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: First thing, yep, Okay, I got a box delivered to 92 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 5: my office today. 93 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: I said, what the hell is this? 94 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: It was soap and noo. 95 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 96 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 5: So with all the soap talk that we have here, uh, 97 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: Steve Ross decided to send us some soap. He owns 98 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 5: an operator Willow Mountain Distributors in uh Brute and Alabama, 99 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 5: which my father in law was from home to Fred's 100 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 5: wife and family. I listened to Fred's rent on soap 101 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 5: bits and had to send some samples. We manufactured distribute 102 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 5: soap all over the US. Hope you enjoy them. I 103 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 5: would be really nice to hear how you like them 104 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 5: and how Alex liked them in particular. 105 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: Sure, I guess Alex is a big user of soap. 106 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: IM Like, I'm like, you gotta just keep smelling it now. 107 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's Willow Mountain Distributors. 108 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so thank you for that, Stephen. 109 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 8: It's like the soap came with a nice little pocket 110 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 8: as well that we can put the soap in. 111 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: I'll give it a world. 112 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, to give someone a blanket party soap, little pocket. 113 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: Hour back to thanks for the soap. Appreciate that. That's 114 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 4: a good stuff. 115 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 8: I love when fans send us things like which McCall 116 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 8: it's and soap? 117 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, random cars not wizards. 118 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, sponsorships, So what else have we got 119 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: going on? 120 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 5: It's really a dead time. That's why baseball has their 121 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 5: All Star game. 122 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 9: Yeah. 123 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, well I had a nice weekend on the Cape. 124 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 8: Oh that's when we start off with a little funny story. 125 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: I got a little funny sky funny story. 126 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: Can I do a funny story? 127 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: Fred's not happy that we don't have to. 128 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: I might have to protect in a little bit. Uh. 129 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 8: So, my my stepdad, I called my stepdad, but you 130 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 8: know I got married when I was like forty, So 131 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 8: this is my stepdad. It's got a boat Si sue 132 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 8: At Harbor, Fred, you know that spot. My son loves 133 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 8: to fish and to take us out fishing. One day, 134 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 8: so we're walk down to Si Suet Harbor. They got 135 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 8: to put the boat in, so we're waiting for them 136 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 8: to put the boat in. And as they put the 137 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 8: boat in and they put it into the slip, you know, 138 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 8: Don's getting it ready, showing my son some stuff, and 139 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 8: I'm kind of just sitting there getting ready to show 140 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 8: ship off. Now as I'm doing this, I notice a 141 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 8: family four people walk down the dogs to go to 142 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 8: their boat. And the first thing I noticed is like 143 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 8: they have a big box of something like something that 144 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 8: they're like taking care. 145 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: Of, and I'm like, what's going on here? 146 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 8: And then I noticed a couple of people holding flowers, 147 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 8: and so my mind, I'm just sitting at the front 148 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 8: of the boat holding it and I'm like, here we go. 149 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, I think this might be be an ASHES starance. 150 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 8: So right does I make the realization that this might 151 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 8: be an Ashes ceremony. My good friend Dawn, who's having 152 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 8: the time of his life, cranks the opening to Life 153 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 8: in the fast Lane. He is blasting life in the 154 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 8: fast Lane, just loving life so happy, so excited to 155 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 8: go on the boat, and I'm looking at these people 156 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 8: who look very somber right next door getting a full blast. 157 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: I didn't know what to say. 158 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: And then the final line is we're pulling out. 159 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: Was he looked over to this, you guys going off 160 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 4: for a joy ride? 161 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: Ah? So I was in I was in my own head. 162 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh. 163 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 8: Man, yes, yes, especially when you think of the intensity 164 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 8: and the aggressiveness of the life and the fast lane 165 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 8: guitar riff. It's just it's especially at ten am on 166 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 8: a Saturday morning, it's just it hits hard. 167 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: So that was that was kind of funny moment for 168 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: me there this weekend. It's the sue at Harbor, those 169 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: poor people. Hopefully it all went well. You know, my condolences. 170 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: I will to Mike that that was a funny little staty, 171 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: a little quip. 172 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: Then, you know, one of those curb your enthusiasm type stories. 173 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: I just you know, you get in your own head 174 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: and you're like, what do I do? I mean, it's 175 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 4: the same thing when I'm in the movie theater. 176 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: Friend, I know what I know. I know he was 177 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: and he was so happy, and he just he probably 178 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: wasn't paying attention to that. 179 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: It's not like it's not like in the middle of 180 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: the water he pulled. 181 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: Up right, but it was. 182 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 8: It was so in my own head of like I'm 183 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 8: you know, at the end of the boat, just seeing 184 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 8: on the dock, run ready to help him shift out. 185 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 8: And as soon as I realized that, the music just 186 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 8: cranked and. 187 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: It was funny. So yeah, that was my weekend. Great 188 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: weekend on the cape though. Love love that place. 189 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 8: It's not summer till I get down there and get 190 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 8: some ice cream, get a fish sandwich and ran into 191 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 8: a member of our of our content team down there randomly, 192 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 8: So that was good, good. 193 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: Weekend for me. Good to break battery is charging up, 194 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: ready to go. 195 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: Okay, who'd you run into down then? 196 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 8: Julian Jeels she was getting in line for a lobster role. 197 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 8: Well she was supposed to get on the boat. She 198 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 8: was in the wrong spot. But you know, another random one, 199 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 8: same place that I saw Jyalen Hawkins last year. So 200 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 8: I guess it's the place to be if you're out 201 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 8: the It's a cool spot. Tough to get in and 202 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 8: out of, it is. Yeah, bring your cash, you're gonna 203 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 8: need it. 204 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: Playing a lot of golf ball. 205 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 2: I played some golf in my week off. 206 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: What would you say? What do you shoot? 207 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: I shot an eighty eight. That's good. On that's good. 208 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 4: Last Tuesday, I agreet you could play with anybody absolutely. 209 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: I played nine on Sunday, did not play as well. 210 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: I didn't keep score, but I had a couple of doubles. 211 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: So I didn't play as well as I did on Tuesday. 212 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: But I'm working on some things, trying to work some 213 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: sort of tigering my swing a little bit. Now I'm 214 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: trying to like I'm having problems with with some of 215 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: my irons, like approach shots, and like everybody else, I'm 216 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: watching too many videos in your own I'm like, well, 217 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: this is what I think I'm doing wrong. So I 218 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: actually played on Sunday and then I asked Will if 219 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: he wanted to go to the driving range. So I 220 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: was like, Scheffler, you know, after my round, I had 221 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: to go to the driving range to work on some things. 222 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: So I was sort of trying to adjust where my 223 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: hands are on irons, and I felt like at the 224 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 2: driving range, surprise, surprise, it was much better. Right, We'll 225 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: see what happens the next time. I play, but care 226 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: not good. Not good. 227 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 8: I don't play a lot of golf, but I played 228 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 8: some golf with my friends who all play a lot 229 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 8: of golf, and like Paul, talk about golf all the time. 230 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 8: And I'm always amazed that when I get suckered in 231 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 8: and not suckered when I get talked into playing golf 232 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 8: with these guys, they're not that much better than me. 233 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: Like everybody's like, it's like nobody is good. Nobody's good. 234 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: That's what you forget. 235 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 8: It's just people are willing to put the time and 236 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 8: money into it to just go out there and hack 237 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 8: around every weekend, where. 238 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: It's me, you know, every couple of years. 239 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 5: But I feel like if I could get off the 240 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: tee better, I could consistently hit under one hundred. 241 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the goal, right when you're looking for 242 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: your ball every hole. 243 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: It's tough. 244 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: It's a hard way. 245 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 5: It's a hard way, and I refuse to like, oh, 246 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 5: I'm just going to hit an iron off the tee. 247 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: I refuse to do that. If I can't do it right, 248 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: I'm not going to do it. 249 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you, you know, you know 250 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: you what do we do? You know, we're not on tour, 251 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: We're not trying to score, We're trying to get better, 252 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: right right. 253 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, that's that's golf. 254 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: But back to football, I don't hear that often. 255 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when it goes in the hole, right, Yeah. 256 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: Usually I pick it up and discust. 257 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 5: So I was, you know, listening to I listened to 258 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 5: sports radio a lot whenever I'm in the car, and 259 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 5: they were talking about what are you most excited about 260 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 5: going into this season for the Patriots? 261 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: And I was. 262 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 5: Wondering if maybe we could pick up on that topic, 263 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 5: And the conversation, at least on the radio morphed into 264 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 5: like what do you think is going to be best 265 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 5: on the team? 266 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: Which I think is different. 267 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 5: I think they told they took the question and bastardized it, 268 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 5: you know, like because. 269 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: A potential semantics argument that Fred and Iron actually lockstep. 270 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: I take it exactly the way. What do you think 271 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: is going to be the you know, most exciting thing 272 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: is not necessarily what aspect of the team is best? 273 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: Right, right, exactly, But so let's let's do it in 274 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 5: the true form of the question, what are you most 275 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 5: excited about going into training camp for this team? 276 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: I answer. 277 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 8: I'm going to say how Mike Rabel's impact on the 278 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 8: team manifests itself. 279 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: What this team plays like, what you know? 280 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 8: I mean, And I think Paul is probably leaning towards 281 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 8: the defense maybe for me, and I think that's a 282 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 8: big element of it, because I think Mike Rabel's impact 283 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 8: on the team, his stamp will be most obvious on 284 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 8: defense because it will be probably a different style than 285 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 8: we're used to seeing. But I'm most interested in just 286 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 8: the overall feel of the team, how they play these games. 287 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 8: They you know, the aggressiveness and you're excited about getting 288 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 8: back to that person that's going I do. 289 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 10: Yeah. 290 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: I just the new identity of the team. 291 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 8: The identity of the team under Mike Vrabel, I would say, 292 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 8: is what I'm most excited to see manifest itself. It 293 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 8: could look a number of different ways, but that for 294 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 8: me is is what it is. 295 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I would say for me, it's really all 296 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: about Drake may That's what I'm most excited about. What 297 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: you know, where is his progression. I feel like he's 298 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: going to have better coaching this year than he did 299 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: last year. The talent around him is largely the same. 300 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm hoping the offensive line is a little bit better. 301 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: But Drake May That's what I'm most excited to see 302 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: his maturation process. Can he kept back on the turnovers? 303 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: Candy be a little bit better in winning time? Where 304 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: does he stand? Are we going to, you know, plow 305 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: forward one hundred miles an hour knowing that this is 306 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: the guy, or are we going to continue to say, 307 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: if you could just cut back some of the mistakes, 308 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: there's something. There's a lot of roberability. So that's what 309 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm most excited to say. 310 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm most excited about the offensive line. I think 311 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: I think personnel wise, it's been upgraded. 312 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: I think Will. 313 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 5: Campbell is going to be a good left tackle and 314 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 5: he's going to be the left tackle in this team 315 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 5: for a long time. 316 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: I think whether it's. 317 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 5: Brad Berry or the other guy, I think they're gonna 318 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 5: end up having a decent center. I think the right 319 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 5: side is fine, and right now, all I'm wondering is 320 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 5: you know how left guard is going to play out? 321 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 5: It's probably I don't know if it's going to be cold, 322 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 5: strange or but I think, and then combine that with 323 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 5: the coaching, I believe the offensive line is going to 324 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: be a lot better than it was last year, and 325 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 5: that's going to just make the overall execution on the 326 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 5: offense that much better. And you know, it'll help Drake May, 327 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 5: it's going to help the receivers, it's going to help 328 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: every thing. 329 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 3: And so I'm excited about how much better the offensive 330 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: line is going to be this year from last year. 331 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 8: I want to ask you about that, because do you 332 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 8: think it will be immediately apparent from as we get 333 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 8: into drills with pads on that you can evaluate offensive 334 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 8: lineman one on ones, Because I hear what you're saying, 335 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 8: and I just wonder if it's going to be hard 336 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 8: to really get excited about them until we get into 337 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 8: the games and you're like, they're better this year. 338 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: So I could definitely see, you know, maybe not coming 339 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: off vacation, Paul saying I can't believe that you're that 340 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: excited about the offensive line, and then us both of 341 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: us completely being convinced that we were right based on 342 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: what happened in September. See, I told you they were better, 343 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: and I'm like, really not bad, you know, and having 344 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: one of those stupid Fred Paul. It's because you're right, Mike, 345 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to readily know how 346 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: much to know how much is Josh McCay is getting 347 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: the ball out quicker, you know, you know, the time 348 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: to throw is so much so it's made Can everybody 349 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: look better? Or you know, Will Campbell was just really 350 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: the real deal as the fourth overall pick. He is 351 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: a you know, a sort of a blossoming Pro Bowl 352 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: caliber talent. Let's put it that way. I'm not going 353 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: to call him a Pro Bowl or rookie year, but 354 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: he has that kind of ability. 355 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we knew we had major problems last 356 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: year when the Eagles came to town for that joint practice, right, 357 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 5: I mean that was uh oh, So I'm hoping that 358 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: when the commanders come that we'll see the opposite and 359 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 5: we're going to have another opportunity when they have a 360 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: joint with the Vikings that you're going up against another team. 361 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 5: And if I'm Mike Vrabel, I'm asking, you know, Dan Quinn, 362 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: hey test us here if you can, you know, whatever 363 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: whatever we can do there to give an. 364 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: Indication of how people are doing. 365 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: Uh so we'll we'll we'll know it when we see it. 366 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 8: It's hard for me because I've realized i haven't seen 367 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 8: a great Patriots offense in training camp really, other than 368 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 8: when I came in a while, which when I came 369 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 8: as a fan and watched Brady like that was in 370 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 8: I would come back just to watch that, and twenty 371 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 8: nineteen Brady was here. But in my memory, even that 372 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 8: twenty nineteen camp, you could already start to tell that 373 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 8: like they. 374 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: Are missing I mean, remember that's why they went out 375 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: and took the chance on Antonio Brown. I knew they 376 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: were missing weapons. 377 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 378 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, So I wonder what it'll look like. But I 379 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 8: still think you're right though. There'll be maybe some hints 380 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 8: and I but I think we're going to be predisposed 381 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 8: to giving Will Campbell the benefit of the doubt either way. 382 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: Well, you can't tell the difference between last year and 383 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: what they have right now, then it's a disaster. Yeah, 384 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: because last year was a really really bad performance and 385 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: they have on paper at least upgraded two spots. 386 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 387 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if one of the first hints we 388 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 5: might get is if four of the five spots start 389 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 5: a certain way and continue that way in terms of personnel, 390 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 5: that's a good sign. 391 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 392 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'll be I'm leaving out left 393 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 5: guard there. But if the five spots are the same 394 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 5: throughout the summer. 395 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: At least, that's good. 396 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I guess I also falls back to 397 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 8: last year though, when we kept saying they just have 398 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 8: to get their five guys, and even when they had 399 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 8: some consistency, it was still consistently. 400 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: Bad the head injury. Yeah, I mean, I hear what 401 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: you're saying, and I think that would be great. 402 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 8: But I also wonder if it's maybe going to be 403 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 8: a little bit better if guys are making pushes and 404 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 8: there is some movement and there is some room for 405 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 8: competition to happen. 406 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 4: I don't know what the answer is. I hear what 407 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 4: you're saying. 408 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 3: At the same Wallace is doing something. 409 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: I think it would be a great sign of Jared 410 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: Wilson is pushing for a starting job for the center. 411 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, maybe think like that. 412 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, you see, all right, Maybe it is a veteran 413 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 8: starting off in a position. 414 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: But then as we get into. 415 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 8: Pads a little bit into joint practices, you start to 416 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 8: see somebody making that. 417 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: The more I read about Wilson, the more intrigued I 418 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: am with his ability. I know Mike Reese had something 419 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: in his Sunday notes. I think it was last Sunday, 420 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 2: it might have been the week before, but just his 421 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: college coach talking about his rare athleticism for the spot, 422 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: and I thought it was kind of strange. One of 423 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: the reasons why he only played one year, only started 424 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: one year, was because Kirby Smart didn't want to start 425 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: him at left guard and have his two centers both 426 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: in which I thought was a foolish reason. But I mean, 427 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: whom guy has won national titles, not like he's doesn't 428 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: know what he's doing. But I thought that was flawed 429 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: logic if they were if they had two of their 430 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: better alignment and only one of them started because they 431 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: were worried about losing one or the other not having 432 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: a backup center, and that to me is flawed logic. 433 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: But I'm intrigued by his overall skill set. 434 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, he's kind of the wildcard right now, 435 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 8: especially since we didn't see him at all right during 436 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 8: the spring. But you know, City Sookden, Wallace, Leyden Robinson, 437 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 8: There's a lot of different guys in there that I 438 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 8: think deserve chances, and I want to see some of them. 439 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 8: But I get your point, though, Fred, it would be 440 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 8: like they know guys out of the spring, these are 441 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 8: the guys. 442 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: This is what we're sticking with. 443 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 8: Like, I do see some some quality in that, but 444 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 8: I'd also like to see some rookies make some pushes 445 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 8: or you know, the younger guys things that we didn't expect. 446 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 5: They have to be really, really good because if you're 447 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 5: pushing and when you out, that's not a good sign 448 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: for him. 449 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: I wouldn't expect He's the only one that I really 450 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: feel is like. 451 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 5: I mean, do you think Morgan Moses could get pushed out? 452 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 8: No, I'm not worry about him with injury, and I 453 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 8: know he's been pretty reliable old. 454 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Campbell and Moses are probably locked in. 455 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: I think that the other two spots to me are 456 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: up in the air. 457 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 458 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, with Brad Berry's more established than anybody at left guy. 459 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't put too much meaning in But Michael Owenyu, 460 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 8: I think is the highest played player on this team 461 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 8: right now and looking last night at the Salary Capital. 462 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 8: But I just I just wonder if there's a little 463 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 8: more pressure on Michael and WHENU I just I don't 464 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 8: feel like people mention him very often. 465 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 4: We talk a lot about the offensive line. 466 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 8: He should be the key guy right now. I mean, 467 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 8: they they gave him a big contract, they wanted to 468 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 8: keep him around. I don't know what happened last year, 469 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 8: and maybe we can overlook that, but I just in 470 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 8: my view, Michael. 471 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 4: And Whu has got some pressure on him this year, and. 472 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: I think that some of these guys should coaching staff 473 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: in here. They don't have any time to him. They 474 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: didn't give him that nineteen million a year contract. I 475 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: agree with you, Mike, Yeah, he's got some. 476 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 8: He's kind of glaring when you, you know, pull up 477 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 8: next year's cap numbers or this year's cap numbers and 478 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 8: you just see him a top and all right, well, 479 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 8: usually those are the guys that you're you're really counting 480 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 8: on and relying on. And you know, like you just 481 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 8: laid out Fred with the offensive line, I feel like 482 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 8: we all talk about it the same way. It never 483 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 8: starts with like, of course our best player, Michael WNU. 484 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 8: He's going to anchor us, So, you know, can he 485 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 8: turn it around this year? I think this is I 486 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 8: just think it's a proving ground for him this year, 487 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 8: more than people are probably saying out loud. But at 488 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 8: the same time. When you hear people talk about the 489 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 8: offensive line, nobody mentions him as like the anchor of it. 490 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 8: You mentioned Will Campbell first, and you know, but I still. 491 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 3: So those are the things we're most excited about. You're 492 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: you're with the yeah, the quarterback, the offensive line. What 493 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: are you most afraid of? What's what's your biggest fear? 494 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 4: That Drake can't get over turnovers and bad playing the clutch. 495 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 8: I mean, that's why, and that's why when Paul said 496 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 8: that's what he's most excited about, I I you know, 497 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 8: it's all semantics right now, but I'm like, but I'm 498 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 8: I'm worried. I'm excited to see him play, but I'm 499 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 8: not guaranteed that he's not going to come out here 500 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 8: and have a you know, another year where maybe there's 501 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 8: some untimely interceptions, may sprays, those kind of things. 502 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: That's what scares me the most. That's what will hamper 503 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: this team. 504 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 8: And you don't want to come out of this year 505 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 8: thinking maybe we need some competition for Drake. 506 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: That's the worst case scenario. 507 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: I think Mike is right. I mean, that would be 508 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: the biggest fear, is that he doesn't make the progression 509 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: and he's just sort of a very talented but erratic quarterback. 510 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 511 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: I mean obviously if that happens. 512 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, not below that, you'll you're limited. Yeah, 513 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: that you'll be better because you have better players than 514 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: you did like year, but you're not going to be 515 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: that much better. 516 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: I have more faith that he will be able to 517 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 5: overcome that, and he will be He'll take that second 518 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 5: year jump. 519 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: He'll be fine. 520 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: So that's not my biggest fear. 521 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 5: It's is it something I'm looking at, of course, But 522 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 5: my biggest fear is these wide receivers that there isn't 523 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 5: a progression that Booty doesn't progress that digs something's going 524 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 5: on there, and he's not the addition that we all 525 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 5: expect and hope he will be, and that overall it 526 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 5: just we don't see that jump that we all know 527 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 5: that they need. 528 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: Uh. That's that's that's. 529 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: My biggest fear, which then makes it harder on Drake 530 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 4: and then harder. 531 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 5: Drake and now we're wondering what the problem is, you 532 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 5: know overall with the offense, so collectively that wide receiver 533 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 5: room really has to step it. 534 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: Up this year. 535 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd sell you like maybe a B fear of 536 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 8: mine is that on the defensive side of the ball, 537 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 8: a couple key injuries prevent Vrabel from really doing what 538 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 8: he wants to do. 539 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 4: I think he'll be able to tip. 540 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: It's a problem, yeah, across the close, close. 541 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 8: Facsimilar to what he had in Tennessee's starting to put 542 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 8: it together. But you know, without a Spulane or without 543 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 8: a Landry or you know, even a chase on like 544 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 8: those dominoes tend to fall pretty quick. And I don't 545 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 8: want to come out of the season being like, well, 546 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 8: he just he didn't have his guys. He lost a 547 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 8: couple guys. He wasn't able to do what he wants 548 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 8: to do. I'd like him to be able to hold 549 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 8: on to those key pieces. I know there'll be injuries, 550 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 8: there'll be some depth pieces that they have to work around, 551 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 8: of course, but I just hope they don't have a 552 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 8: couple of catastrophic injuries that just change the dynamic and 553 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 8: then you're not saying yeah, but but you never know. 554 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hopefully it's it's a reasonable amount of health. 555 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: You know, you don't lose Gonzo, you know, or Spelane. 556 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 2: I think those guys would be really impactful losses. Milton 557 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: Williams and Barmore obviously going to be a big part 558 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: of what they want to do up front. You want 559 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: to keep those guys healthy. Yeah, Mike is right about 560 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: the overall depth though, because they while they haven't prove 561 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: the roster, you can't improve the roster and add all 562 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: depths at the same time. You know, in one offseason. 563 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: I think they've taken some steps to improve the overall 564 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 2: talent level, but to me, it's still lacking overall with 565 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: regard to the playoff teams, the teams that we you know. 566 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: The Kansas City, that's why they're good. 567 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, Baltimore, they can overcome injuries because they have the 568 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 5: death so fears of may wide receiver room. What do 569 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 5: you think will be the biggest positive surprise. 570 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 2: Come into play. 571 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that the defense will be better than 572 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 4: they were last year. 573 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know if that's a surprise for anybody, right, 574 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 8: but they were down near the bottom and just about everything. 575 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 8: I think if trusting Mike Rabel, Terrell Williams, they went out, 576 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 8: they got their kind of guys. They're transitioning to a 577 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 8: different kind of defense, but I think that they'll be 578 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 8: They're playing some bad offenses. 579 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: But I think that that'll be the biggest surprise to me. 580 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 8: It's just that this defense only kind of comes back 581 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 8: plays aggressive, get some you know, some recognition for for 582 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 8: how they play. 583 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a tough question to answer. How about 584 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: you get a nice bounce back year from Ramondre Stevenson. 585 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: I think they probably want to run the ball a 586 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: little bit, you know, with McDaniels and Vrabel. I know 587 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: Mike sort of he can get snippy with me, but 588 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: he was sort of like, well, we don't have a 589 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty pound running back. When I sort 590 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: of asked him in the offseason about his style of play, 591 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: do you expect to be similar to what you were 592 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: in Tennessee? And he immediately hit me with, well, we 593 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: don't have Derek Henry. I do think that that's how 594 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: they want to play. They want to protect the football, 595 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: they want to run the ball, they want to be 596 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: physical on both sides of the ball. Ramondre Stevens is 597 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: not going to fumble seven times again. Yeah, he's going 598 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: to have a more productive year. I feel with Josh 599 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: and I think you might have a nice positive surprise there. 600 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 5: My positive surprise is they will do no worse than 601 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 5: four and two in the AFC East. 602 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: Okay, that would be a surprise. Yeah, yeah, I don't 603 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: see that, but that would be a surprise. 604 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: Losses at Miami and app I'm not saying who you know, 605 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 4: one of those wins might be the Bills. 606 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 3: You know, they could split with the Bills. 607 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: But the last couple of years, no worse than. 608 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: Four and two in the a f C East. 609 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 8: All right, it will be It would be wonderful to 610 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 8: get over the Miami hump, so Mark, to get over 611 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 8: the morrell to uh like that that that'll be happy, Duce, 612 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 8: that'll be happy postgame due. 613 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: Better chance four and two or two and four in 614 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: the division like to. So the eternal optimism. 615 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 4: Right now probably too and four right now? 616 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 2: Split with Miami split, don't my lips? 617 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: Can I see that? 618 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 8: But to get over the two hump this year I 619 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 8: think would be a great first step. You talk about 620 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 8: just things to check off, like maybe getting a win 621 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 8: down in Miami or simply. 622 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: Just in Miami. 623 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: And now I got two wins over there. You know, 624 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna beat Miami here they play them 625 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: in December, if I yeah, it's late. It's one of 626 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: the late games, right, I forget it's uh. 627 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 8: I thought we had Miami or Miami my last in 628 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 8: the last game, second game in the last game. 629 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: So I think they're going to win that last game 630 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 2: against Miami. Miami will have been eliminated by then. 631 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 3: Matter. 632 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 8: So there you go Week two down in Miami to 633 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 8: a full complement of weaponry. H to win that game, 634 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 8: that would that would be good. But I like just 635 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 8: going through the like Week one against the Raiders. 636 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: It's a tough game. That's a really tough, tough game 637 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: that Patriots fans I don't want to paint with a 638 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: broad brush, but a lot of Patriots fans have not 639 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: even considered the possibility. 640 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 8: I mean, Brock Bowers is, you know, by the recent vote, 641 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 8: the number one tight end in the league right now. 642 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: What was the biggest acquisition they made in the off season? 643 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: Fourth overall pair Ashton fourth overall pick was who Will Campbell? 644 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: And who is the Raiders best player? The best in 645 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 2: the league. Yeah, I know that he generally plays on 646 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: the other side, but you don't think Pete Carroll is 647 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: gonna wreck as well. I got a kid over there. 648 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: I might want to see if he's up to speed 649 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: or how much are they going to have to slide 650 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: the protection from Max Crosby even if he's on you know, 651 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: the right side with Morgan Moses, does that open somebody 652 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: else up? You know? Is Kon's I forget, I haven't 653 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: done my matchups yet, so I'm a little behind. 654 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: So to be chase on. 655 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 8: But but yeah, probably maybe Malcolm Kons is the right. 656 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: So there's that's a really that's a good there's personnel 657 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: there that can do some damage. You know. You Mike 658 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: mentioned Bowers. Jano Smith had a good game against the 659 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: Patriots last year. You know, I sort of dismissed him 660 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: heading into that Seattle game. He proved me wrong. 661 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: He's a competent quarterback. 662 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: Ashton I mean Ashton gens in the backfield. Ye figure 663 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 4: it out. 664 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 8: And I was looking at that schedule that I'm like 665 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 8: them then at Miami and I was like, were people 666 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 8: saying this is like a great schedule for a great 667 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 8: start Like I, you know, I it's gonna every every 668 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 8: game is going to be a battle. 669 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: Every game is going to be a battle, isn't it. 670 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: They have three of the first four at home, so 671 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: I think everybody's just sort of felt like, well, those 672 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: are wins. 673 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: And they haven't won any games at home. 674 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: I think the Carolina game, you probably feel pretty good. 675 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: That's a game that quote unquote we should win at home, 676 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: and I would agree with that. But Pittsburgh and the Raiders, 677 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: to me, those could go either way, right, and if 678 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: they were on the road, I wouldn't feel really good 679 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: about either one of them. But at home, I give 680 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: you a shot. 681 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 5: Of any of those games, Like, which of those games 682 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 5: will the Patriots be favored? 683 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 4: I mean I don't. 684 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: I don't make the case the only one would be Carolina. 685 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: I think they might be favored in the opener. I 686 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: think there's there's a good amount of games that they 687 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: This stuff is already well, it's already like if there'll 688 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: be out there, right, Yeah, yeah, I think there's a 689 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: I think there's an odd amount of games the Patriots 690 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: are favorite, like an eleven out of the seventeen games 691 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: or something like that, which is I think speaks to 692 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: the schedule that we're. 693 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: All playing, playing a fourth place schedule, right. 694 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: You know they played a fourth place schedule last year too, 695 00:29:59,680 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: I know. 696 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: But it's supposed to be better. 697 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: There's only three teams, only three games that are impacted 698 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: by the place that you finish, right, everybody else is 699 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: the same. It's the same schedule that Buffalo is playing, 700 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: except for three games in their first play schedule. Yeah right, Uh, 701 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: let's see Patriots odds for the season. 702 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 11: Right, sots five hundred The Hot Line podcast. 703 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: If I don't talk, the show stops. What did you 704 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: guys last week? 705 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: It's nothing. We just stared at each other. 706 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 5: I can't believe you don't have that tattoos for your forum. 707 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 8: It's another side topic though, just we can jump back 708 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 8: to that. But just the second round pick thing. I 709 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 8: know someone wrote in about that, and now it seems 710 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 8: like it might actually start to be a thing because 711 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 8: Houston guaranteed the full contract with Jayden Higgins and I 712 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 8: think only he and the linebacker Schwestion Gert from the 713 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 8: Browns are the only two second round guys signed. So 714 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 8: there might be a little bit of a problem now 715 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 8: with our slotted drafting. 716 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: Patriots are right now favored by three against the Raiders. 717 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: Well you get three, so it's even there. 718 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: You go, Okay, So I'm not gonna look up the 719 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: rest because he's gonna because he's gonna dismiss it. 720 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 8: It's a great it's a great opening game though. That 721 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 8: that was what stood out to me. Just good team, 722 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 8: there's some talent yet. 723 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: And you know the Pittsburgh game is interesting too with 724 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers. Again, it's early in the season, so 725 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: if it doesn't go well for him, it hasn't not 726 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: gone well already. You don't have you know what I mean, 727 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: by the time that you get to like week. That's 728 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: why I think it's it's kind of a bad break 729 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: that played Miami so early, because I think Miami's like 730 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: I think, like everybody else with Miami, I think they're 731 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: gonna struggle. I think this is kind of a bridge 732 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: year or rebuilding, resetting kind of a year for them. 733 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: But in we two they're not going to feel that way. 734 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: You know, the season's just starting. 735 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: So springs internal. 736 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 737 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: Speaking of contract, Garrett Wilson average about thirty one million 738 00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: a year. 739 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 4: What do you think good deal? 740 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: A good deal for him? I felt like, I don't 741 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: know why I feel like the Jets are having a 742 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: good offseason because I haven't heard a lot about the Jets, 743 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: and I know, I think I mentioned a few weeks 744 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: ago that Ben Vollen wrote something like that, and I 745 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: don't often, you know, find myself I say this to 746 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 2: Ben all the time. I don't often find myself aligned 747 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: with Ben Vollen, But I think he's right. I think 748 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: it's a sign that maybe Aaron Glenn has an idea 749 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: of how he wants to run his team. Scares me 750 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: his program, you know, they've sort of flown under the radar. 751 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: I think that's a really good signing. I don't think 752 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: it's an an exorbitant salary. It's ninety million guaranteed four years. 753 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: That to me is he's a good player. He's one 754 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: of the best ten receivers in football. 755 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and. 756 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: He's paid I think somewhere in the top five. And 757 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: guys that are gonna, you know, you know how that works, 758 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: guys are gonna end up going in front of him. 759 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: He didn't get as much as DK Metcalf, and I 760 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: think he's a better player than DK Metcalf. 761 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's a ninety million guaranteed, yeah, four years, 762 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: ninety million. 763 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. Just it worries me. It worries me. 764 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 8: Fret says four and two, and like, I just don't 765 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 8: know anything about the Jets right now. 766 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: I feel. I mean, it just depends on Justin Field. 767 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a huge wildcard. 768 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, I mean, and I think any team that's 769 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 8: why it's a surprise. Any team with a new coach 770 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 8: or a new quarterback or some combination of it's huge 771 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 8: question marks. And that's what the Raiders are going to be, 772 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 8: That's what Pittsburgh's going to be, That's what the Patriots are. 773 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: So I think there's a two more that have been 774 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: penciled into the wind column the by if you talk 775 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: to most people. We had a guy last week. I 776 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: was on one of my shows, Freddie, I was double 777 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: dipping on you on my vacation. A guy called in 778 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: and said, you'd be like disappointed with ten wins. He 779 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: goes just making the playoffs and get knocked out in 780 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: the wildcard round with ten wins isn't enough? And I'm like, 781 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: I just I looked at Tim mcconne, I said, that's 782 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: enough for me. 783 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 4: Does that guy call our show too? I feel like 784 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 4: we had that. 785 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: I don't know you, Oh did we? 786 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 4: I don't know we had a call like that too. 787 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: He might have made the rounds. 788 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you that ten wins should be like 789 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: you know, cause for a parade or anything like that, 790 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 2: But based on winning four games in the last. 791 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 5: Two years, you'll come if you win ten, you can 792 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 5: win ten games come out of the season feeling very optimal. 793 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: Because I find it awfully hard to believe you won 794 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: ten games without a significant jump from Drake May. That 795 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 2: would be the only way I wouldn't feel great about 796 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: winning ten games is if they win. 797 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 3: A bunch of game ten to three. 798 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you win a want a bunch of defensive slogs 799 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: because you played bad teams and they couldn't muster any 800 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: offense against you when you looked better than. 801 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 4: You were seeing that season. 802 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: Frable's a good coach, so he found a way to, 803 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: you know, win these seventeen thirteen kind of games. And 804 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: Drake May didn't play well. I could see you not 805 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: feeling great about winning ten games. But that's it. That's it. 806 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: If they win ten games and they make the playoffs, 807 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: or they're at least in playoff contention in week eighteen, 808 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: the whole new world, that'd be great. 809 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, whole new world. 810 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: Let's see who's this ignis? I don't know. 811 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 812 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 5: Ignis from Connecticut, an ignorant fan since two thousand and three, 813 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 5: moved to the States and longtime fan of the show. 814 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 5: Have you seen the Kendrick Bourne video of the workout 815 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 5: sessions Drake organized in North Carolina? Personally, I thought Diggs 816 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 5: is moving really well. Hopeful he'll be a full go 817 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 5: week one. Mandre looks quicker and sharper in his cuts. 818 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 5: Poke looks bigger. Was impressed with his change in direction 819 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 5: when he plants and shifts. So did you guys see 820 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 5: the video? 821 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 4: I did, Actually I watched. I watched. 822 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 8: I mean it's like twenty minutes. It just raw Pratts footage. 823 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 8: I mean it is edited. I shouldn't say it's. 824 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: Ronna say it ain't raw foot but no, but it's 825 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: all making everybody look at it. It possibly look. 826 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 4: It's all highlights. But uh, I like the vibes. I 827 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 4: like the vibes. Generally, I don't. 828 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 8: I don't care about the videos, but I like the 829 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 8: vibes that it seems like they're all getting along, they're 830 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 8: working together there. 831 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I said it on the show on Thursday. 832 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 8: I like more of the the team building stuff, which 833 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 8: I think Mike wrote in his notes. Mike Grease wrote 834 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 8: in his notes that Drake said it's more about getting together. 835 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 4: And I said, the. 836 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 2: Student happen to do anything's happening. 837 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 8: You know, the stupid video pod if you saw it 838 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 8: was was drake like throwing a past to Remandra on 839 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 8: a jet ski and catching. You know, like that's like 840 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 8: the dumb, dumb, dumb stuff that me and my friends do. 841 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 8: It's like, all right, these guys are getting along, they're 842 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 8: spending time together, they're getting to know each other. 843 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: They're gonna want to win for each other. They're gonna 844 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: want to go through that. 845 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,479 Speaker 2: I would just say two things here. Physically, don't fall 846 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: into the trap that so and so looks quicker. They're 847 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 2: they're all without quick. They don't look quicker. They are 848 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: quicker because it's the summer. And the last time you 849 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 2: saw them was at the end of an eighteen game 850 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: slog where they got the crap beat out of them 851 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: for a whole year, and they were slower. So they 852 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: are fat. They're all across the board, they're all faster, quicker, 853 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: cutting more shot. 854 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 3: Literally all they have on is cleats and shorts. 855 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 2: Right, so they actually moving faster than they were the 856 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: last time you saw them. You know, injuries aside, you know, 857 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: if someone's injured or whatever. But yes, Romandre Stevenson, I 858 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: have no doubt is moving quicker right now than he 859 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 2: was in December, the last time you saw him January. 860 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have I have to be very about this. 861 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: I agree with Mike. I think the team bonding thing 862 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: is significant. I think that's an important part of you know, 863 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 2: getting some kind of like chemistry in the locker room 864 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: and whatnot. I don't care at all about the Facocta 865 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: videos that they're clearly sculpting and oh yeah whatever, you know, 866 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 2: they look great. 867 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: I just realized I didn't give them a food order. 868 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: They make a big deal out of these these kinds 869 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: of things. They're just not all that important to me 870 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: that they're It matters to me that they like each 871 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 2: other and they want to be with each other on 872 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: the field and off like that matters to me. I 873 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: think that's. 874 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 8: Important, right, you know, just trying to see them do 875 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 8: a stupid like do you think you could complete a pass? 876 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 12: All? 877 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 2: I thought it, Like, that's great. I think that stuff 878 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: is great. I'm with your mic. 879 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 8: It made me though, I went into my after watching 880 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 8: that video. I just I started playing a Buyer Cell 881 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 8: game with the Patriots roster where you get so into 882 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 8: analyzing like who's going to get cut who's not? Just 883 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 8: and I thought it was a good mental exercise to 884 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 8: show just who are you buying or who are you 885 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 8: selling as you go in? You know, like Stefan Diggs, 886 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 8: I'm gonna buy on him. I think Paul and Evan 887 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 8: definitely selling on Jalen Polk. I would be a buy 888 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 8: on Jalen Polk right now. I think it's a depreciated 889 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 8: asset that I think is gonna, you know, blossom. But 890 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 8: it's kind of going through the roster and now there's 891 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 8: some interesting choices just putting it through that buyer sell 892 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 8: nothing more. 893 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 4: Is he gonna get cut? I don't know, just going in. 894 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 4: Do you feel like you'd invest in this guy or 895 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 4: you wouldn't? 896 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 897 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 5: Uh Now this next email is the definition of dedication. 898 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 5: OK So, nateon Connecticut's been a frequent caller. He's emailing, 899 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 5: He's says, he says, first, he apologizes for not calling 900 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 5: in apology. 901 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 4: I was wondering where, he says. 902 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 5: I'm at lacrosse camp at West Point and we're at lunch. 903 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 5: So he's emailing during lunch at lacrosse camp Pyle, What 904 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 5: are you doing? 905 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 4: That's dedication anyway, He's. 906 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 5: Wondering, do you think we're gonna have new jersey's unveiled? 907 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: New jerseys? 908 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 5: He's got the jay capitalized, So I get a little 909 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 5: mixed up there, are we gonna have new jerseys unveiled? 910 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 5: Because the charges just tease alternates. The Browns of rumored 911 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 5: to be having alternate helmets. The commanders just released their 912 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 5: new jerseys, probably a week ago. Do you think it's 913 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 5: time for a change in jerseys? 914 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay that. 915 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 5: Somebody somebody made are today it was big head Tampa 916 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 5: Bay and roll those out and everyone's like, oh, I 917 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 5: love those. Everybody hated those at the time, they made 918 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 5: fun of them. 919 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 4: Now all of a sudden they love them. 920 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: Albert b posted that and said what he loves them? No, no, no, 921 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 2: what something that I thought you were going to actually say, 922 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 2: like Pat Patriot? 923 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 3: Absolutely there was. 924 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 2: I don't think that Pat Patriot got a lot of 925 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: criticism when it was out, but there was. There was 926 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 2: no clamoring for Pat Patriot. Like Fred says this all 927 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: the time, He's right, you know, we lived it. There 928 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 2: was no I don't remember that the vitriol that Fred 929 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: does for pat Patriot, But I don't remember anybody saying 930 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: I can't believe they got rid of Pat Patriot. When 931 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: they got rid of them, there wasn't really this hue 932 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: and cry. 933 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome to the nineties. 934 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 3: You know, the creams of Cold. People made fun of it. 935 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 3: They had the I think it was the buccaneer more 936 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 3: than anything with the half Yeah, but I always kind 937 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: of like the uniforms. 938 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 2: I thought they were kind of cool looking. 939 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 4: Archie Manning. That's that's the vibe I get with those ones. 940 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 4: But I mean, man wasn't he the Oh god, I 941 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 4: always confused Tampa Bay, New Orleans. That's like a thing 942 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 4: I have, I get something something I would have. 943 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Yeah, that's good. Fred. Fred is on a 944 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 2: high right now because the Red Sox are on a 945 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: ten game winning He's brought, he's brought his a game today. 946 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: He's ready bring for the All Star Games, bringing topics 947 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 2: to the table. He's talking about Leroy crap show. Steve 948 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: Spurrier was the quarterback. He might be thinking of it. 949 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, but otherwise, like Trent Dilfer, all right, let's. 950 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 4: Go to the hotline. We'll start with Kendall Carolina I would. 951 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 12: Play Kendall, Hey, what's going on? 952 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 9: Guys? 953 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 10: Hey, First, I want to give a shout that Paul 954 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 10: had especially gifts from the pocket they Paul, Paul came 955 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 10: to my show yesterday. 956 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 9: Appreciated it. 957 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: Paul did, and I enjoyed it. Kendall does a great 958 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: job and I was happy to help him out. 959 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 4: Okay, yelly, no, we had nice. 960 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 2: He chopped it up for a little bit about twenty 961 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: twenty five minutes. It's nice, good good time. 962 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 4: You played nice. 963 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 9: Okay, yes, the Cans past out played this podcast. 964 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. 965 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 9: But I wanted to ask, have y'all I know Kamara 966 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 9: is going, have y'all found out? Like who's going to 967 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 9: have y'all found somebody. 968 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 13: To replaced on the post pregame show? 969 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 5: Like y'all got we do have a replacement on the 970 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 5: pre and postgame show a host and uh we'll be 971 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 5: rolling out that info in due time. 972 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 9: So oh okay, okay, Well that's all of anyone to ask. 973 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 12: We just want to give us out to Paul and 974 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 12: asked that question and I appreciate it. 975 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well thanks Kendall, appreciate its. 976 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 2: Kendall, good luck. Ye they're good guy, good guy. Okay, Absolutely, 977 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna go for like a young mic two shown, We're. 978 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 5: Gonna go from North Carolina to California. Kyle's on the phone. 979 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 5: What's up, Kyle? 980 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how are we doing? 981 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 4: Good? 982 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 9: Yeah? 983 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 13: I I a little football also football talk here. I 984 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 13: got to plan my Christmas vacation plans, and my family's 985 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 13: going to go to Boston. Wonder if you guys had 986 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 13: any recommendations. 987 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: In The Winner The Winner? 988 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Yeah, what was the question? 989 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, planning a vacation to Boston The Winner and 990 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 8: The Winner looking for advice? 991 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 4: What kind of stuff you're looking for? Are you with 992 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 4: a family with kids? 993 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:44,959 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 994 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 14: Yeah? 995 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 13: So as me, my mom and sister, I'm gonna be 996 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 13: my last Christmas in the States, just before I go 997 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 13: on deployment. And then my sister lives in Spain, so 998 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 13: we're gonna meet her halfway. We're originally from California. I 999 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 13: never made the Heaspost before. 1000 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 4: All Right, Well, I say North End, get some get 1001 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 4: some Italian. Yeah, I mean there's a great One's. 1002 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: A lot of great food in and around the city 1003 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: in Boston, North End, as Mike said, a lot of history. 1004 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 2: I don't know how much time you have. 1005 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 5: I would do the Freedom Trail, you know, as someone 1006 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 5: who's never been here before, I'm assuming. 1007 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how much I would do that. You know. 1008 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 2: In terms of outdoors, there's a lot of great skiing 1009 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: areas up north of Boston. I don't know if you 1010 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: have time to get up there, if that's something that 1011 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: you be interested in. But there's there's a I mean, 1012 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: winter is not I wouldn't say the best time to 1013 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 2: be in Boston, but there's there's still a lot of Ruins, gah. 1014 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 5: Bruins or Celtics go to the garden. 1015 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: So Fred, this is impressive. You got you got to 1016 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 2: lunch order anyway. 1017 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 4: Look at this Matt marine Matt anticipating his needs above 1018 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 4: and beyond. 1019 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 5: The New England Aquarium is really cool if you want 1020 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 5: to do that. 1021 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 4: It's kind of smelly, though smelly, well fish, it's humid. 1022 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 3: There'll be plenty to do. 1023 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Newberry Street if you want to go shopping in 1024 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 4: Newberry Street. Fangel Hall. 1025 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 2: Keep the family off Newberry Street, all right? Looking to 1026 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 2: save Thanks. 1027 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 5: Kyle Travis writes in from West Virginia, big fan of 1028 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 5: Patriots Unfiltered on TV. Although I realized it's probably easy 1029 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 5: to do from the studio, I liked it better when 1030 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 5: you did it from the Hall of Fame. The colors, 1031 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 5: lights look great on camera, and it just had a 1032 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 5: hometown feel, whereas the studio is more sterile. 1033 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: Okay, any any plans for Patriots talked about? 1034 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 2: I can't imagine we're going to go back the amount 1035 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: of time. Yeah, it's an effort that was saved. No 1036 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,959 Speaker 2: on I don't like effort, but not on our part 1037 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 2: because Mike and I are Prima Donna's show up. Mike 1038 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 2: and I show up and we just do our thing 1039 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: and then we're out. So it takes the same amount 1040 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 2: of time for Mike and I to do it in 1041 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: the halls. But it's still the same same right, But 1042 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 2: it requires a lot more effort on the part of 1043 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 2: the crew, and I think that they would probably prefer 1044 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 2: to have it like like it was last year. 1045 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 5: Also, I would like to encourage everyone listening to take 1046 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 5: a stand against whole body deodorant. It's a scam that's 1047 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 5: being rammed down our throats. If you take regular showers, 1048 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 5: your whole body doesn't stink. 1049 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 3: Have any of you fallen for this scam. 1050 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 8: I have not no, no, I have not even felt 1051 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 8: the need to, Luckily, and I didn't know it was ongoing. 1052 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well I. 1053 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 3: Also have a theory that you know this clinical deodorant 1054 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 3: now they have, It's basically what they've done is they've 1055 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 3: weakened the regular deodorant, so for some people it's not 1056 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 3: as effect able. I got a problem. 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Exclusions apply. 1096 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 4: What is a Patriots free agency plan? 1097 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: Flurry of moves to open NFL free agency. 1098 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 2: Carlton Davids maybe their top. 1099 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 3: Two corner there, Morgan Moses solidified the offensive line. 1100 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 4: These are Vrabels, guys someone who watches ball. 1101 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 16: Nos, No, no, no, that's a dog right there. 1102 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 8: Teams shut is really getting after this offensive line? 1103 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 17: Is there? 1104 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 4: Tough, big physical player. There's a tough team now go anywhere. 1105 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 1: Patriots have been known for winning for a long time. 1106 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: For them to want me and bring me into this 1107 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: organization and be a part of that, I couldn't find 1108 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: nothing better than that. Man. I'll probably say that was 1109 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: the best day of my life. You really can't even 1110 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: put it into words. 1111 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 4: We are extremely proud. 1112 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 18: I personally never dreamed of a moment like this or 1113 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 18: the super Bowl. 1114 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 2: Well, I dreamed of it. 1115 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 9: I feel like I knew what was gonna have because 1116 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 9: he put the work in. 1117 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 4: It's his time. 1118 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: Having my family there, you know, they see all the 1119 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: work to go into it. You know a lot of 1120 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: stuff that go all behind the scenes. It was big 1121 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: to just celebrate that moment with them. Like I said, 1122 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: that was the biggest day of my life. That could 1123 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,959 Speaker 1: have been a better moment for me to play a 1124 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: better game definitely. 1125 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 19: You know what excites me is just a long history 1126 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 19: of just winning here. 1127 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 4: Man, I'm all for that. 1128 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 19: But also a head coaching Mike Rabel man a players 1129 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 19: coaches out there, you know, holding bags for the guys, 1130 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 19: and just a leader of men that's willing to step 1131 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 19: aside and put itself on the line for the better 1132 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 19: good for the team. It's an easy decision, I would say, 1133 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 19: just the historical past this team has had all the success, 1134 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 19: thinking about me growing up as a kid and seeing 1135 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 19: the Patriots win. 1136 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 20: Multiple Super Bowls, just that championship culture us. 1137 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 17: Here being part of the historic franchise as something that 1138 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 17: is near and dear to my heart. I can't wait 1139 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 17: to add my. 1140 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 2: Legacy to it. 1141 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,919 Speaker 17: I got to play for coach Vrabel eight years ago 1142 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 17: at Tennessee, and when I found out I was gonna 1143 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 17: have the opportunity to play for him again, I was 1144 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 17: I was truly excited to get out here. 1145 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 19: Just be a part of something that's bigger than yourself 1146 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 19: is the ideal way of just coming out here. 1147 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 2: And just being a Patriot. 1148 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 20: And I felt like, you know, it was an easy 1149 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 20: choice for me to be able to come back here 1150 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 20: where it all started, you know, where I met my 1151 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 20: wife at BC and really where my career took off. 1152 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 4: I feel like as a. 1153 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 20: Football player, Patriot players so that they always respected the 1154 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 20: organization and the work that came with it. Man, just 1155 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 20: being in that stadium just gave me some goosebumps or 1156 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 20: what it can be. I'm excited just to do it. 1157 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 14: Mac Collins underrated, big physical player. 1158 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 6: If he plays for your team, you gonna love him 1159 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 6: because it maybe thirty degrees below there. 1160 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 4: He ain't got no shoes on. 1161 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 17: I want people to push me to be the best 1162 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 17: I can and I think that's got in the philosophy 1163 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 17: that coach has. 1164 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 4: Yes, the Pats were very busy today. 1165 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 21: It ended up working out at a lot of different positions, 1166 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 21: you know, particularly on defense, to get a lot of 1167 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 21: our top targets and guys that we really felt comfortable 1168 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 21: with that would fit our culture and fit the scheme 1169 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 21: and fit what we're trying to build. 1170 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 4: The New England Patriots. I believe you have something brewing, 1171 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 4: something big up this league. When it comes to the 1172 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 4: wide receiver position. 1173 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 12: Don't be surprised if after making some of these big 1174 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,439 Speaker 12: moves on defense, there's a push also to get Drake 1175 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 12: may some help as well. 1176 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 22: You know, Coach Grave is real convincing, but he had 1177 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 22: a career that's something that you can attest to of 1178 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 22: all work and being a part of something specially so 1179 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 22: tough hansome. When I got the call, it was kind 1180 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 22: of like real simple, the more formative to the fact 1181 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 22: of going somewhere new. 1182 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 23: Competitiveness, the confidence, the plate demeanor, the consistency. Those are 1183 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 23: things that excited us as a veteran wide receiver that 1184 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 23: can come in here and help us. 1185 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 4: Nice to meet you. 1186 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. 1187 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 14: We've been waiting for have some of your son's caliber. 1188 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 20: Yeah. 1189 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 18: He always want to win. 1190 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 4: He always going to work hard. 1191 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 3: He always going to see the players on his team 1192 00:51:59,320 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 3: get better. 1193 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 4: He's just a leader. 1194 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 22: Individual accolades always will follow with the success, and I 1195 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 22: think individual success breeds team success. I feel like this 1196 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 22: is where God placement and this is where I'm supposed 1197 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 22: to be. So I'm gonna give it everything that I 1198 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 22: got and I want to win real, real bad. Everybody 1199 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 22: that's excited, grab your popcorn, grab your jacket, let's get 1200 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 22: to work. 1201 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 20: Well. 1202 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 21: I think the main thing is just finding people that 1203 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 21: fit our culture, just some professional players to show some 1204 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 21: of these young guys the right way to do it. 1205 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 21: And we feel like we really accomplished that at a 1206 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 21: lot of different positions, all the while still preparing for 1207 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 21: the draft and getting ready, you know, because obviously that's 1208 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 21: a big foundation piece and what we're trying to build 1209 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 21: as a draft and developed team. 1210 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 18: You know, you're gonna hear a lot of people and 1211 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 18: I believe it as well. You like to draft, develop, 1212 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 18: and then retain your own because those are the people 1213 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 18: that you've poured the most into, you know, the best. 1214 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 18: And then free agency, though, is another way to address 1215 00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,479 Speaker 18: issues on your team. 1216 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 21: We just like we needed to create competition throughout the 1217 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 21: roster and fill some of the holes so we'd be 1218 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 21: able to be more flexible with our draft strategy. 1219 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 18: And this year's free agency for us is probably going 1220 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 18: to look a lot different than next year's free agency, 1221 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 18: and I think that's what you have to take stock 1222 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 18: of as you go into the free agency process, which 1223 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 18: kicks off really roster building season, is what are the 1224 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 18: things we need to address the most what can set 1225 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 18: us up the best to be able to take the 1226 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 18: best players available in the draft, and year to year 1227 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 18: that might change, you know, it just becomes one of 1228 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 18: those things that the draft develop and retain. Is a 1229 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 18: great concept, but if you draft well enough, ultimately you 1230 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 18: can't pay them all. So that's why it's got to 1231 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 18: be a constant shift. And we just have to be 1232 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 18: intentional about not only the players that we sign in 1233 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 18: free agency, but who those people are, because, as I 1234 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 18: said before, the people make a big. 1235 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 21: Difference filling a lot of those needs through free agency 1236 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 21: and again just opening up that flexibility for the draft 1237 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 21: so we can take the best player available at each pick. 1238 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 4: The way they practiced, a lot of effort to. 1239 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,280 Speaker 23: Finish great teams go out to practice at different feats. 1240 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 23: That's just what we're gonna do because that's the only 1241 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,399 Speaker 23: way that our identity can take off. 1242 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 2: This is professional football. This is your job. 1243 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 4: You're not on scholarship. 1244 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 2: You don't get a red scrat year. The better be 1245 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,439 Speaker 2: all right, you're not tough. 1246 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 4: You have a hard complaining this way? You mean you 1247 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 4: can't continue statement. 1248 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 2: You got like two steps decided to get out. 1249 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 15: Good that kind of drills big there, then God go 1250 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 15: work right there, tip go. 1251 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 2: Rep get off? Got it? 1252 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 15: We can remember it, but we can also work together, all. 1253 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,959 Speaker 17: Right, big weekend Sun turns twenty one. 1254 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,240 Speaker 23: We're in this business to win and to help players improve. 1255 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 23: I think that they embraced the change. 1256 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 4: I would have fit with two hunh. But like, I'm 1257 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 4: blessed to do this, So I wake up with that that. 1258 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 9: Grind every day you taught them. 1259 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 4: That's only plus only thing what you thout. 1260 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 17: I think I'm gonna score, and then I never I 1261 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 17: think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. 1262 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,399 Speaker 2: You got a guy? 1263 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,839 Speaker 1: And now great moments in. 1264 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 24: History and quick movie trivia, What famous movie director produced 1265 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 24: a nineteen seventy one film with up and coming with 1266 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 24: an up and coming movie director? 1267 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 4: But what we don't know who that is? Anyway, The 1268 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 4: answer is franc Is for Coppola, But he did a 1269 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 4: TV show, What famous movie. 1270 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 5: Director produced a nineteen seventy one film with an up 1271 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 5: and coming movie director? 1272 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 3: But like that could be anyone. 1273 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,800 Speaker 2: Who's the up and coming movie director? 1274 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 4: He said, Francis Ford Coppola, No in that. 1275 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like there's two different guys, right, Yeah, 1276 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 2: two different I don't know. 1277 00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 5: Scorsese and Coppola clarify did they do? The movie was 1278 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 5: America Graffiti and George Lucas was there. 1279 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 4: Oh okay, I gotta keep reading. That's another great moment, 1280 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 4: all right? 1281 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 3: Eight five five PATS five hundred is the Yeah. I 1282 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 3: got to read through those emails. 1283 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 2: I forgot about that one. 1284 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 5: I was here for that and I forgot the Hotline 1285 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 5: podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address. If 1286 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,760 Speaker 5: you want to subscribe to the newsletter, the PU Newsletter, 1287 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 5: you can do so by going to Patriots dot com 1288 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 5: slash PU newsletter that comes out every Friday, edited by 1289 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 5: our own Alexander. 1290 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 2: How did it go this week? Did I miss anything? 1291 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:43,839 Speaker 4: Good? 1292 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 2: Because I was? I was not. 1293 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 4: It was all about you. It's all about you, of course. 1294 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 2: Not all. 1295 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 8: You know, a little training camp Q and a well 1296 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,359 Speaker 8: there are PU facus, what to do, where to sit, 1297 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 8: what to bring? 1298 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 4: All those kind of things important stuff for fans. Get 1299 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 4: ready for training camp? 1300 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 3: Yep. 1301 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 5: If you really want to get ready for training camp 1302 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 5: and work, Brunt workwear is a way to go. Did 1303 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 5: you know Brunt is the official workwear clothier of our 1304 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 5: field crew. Hearing that, yeah, yeah, so they're wearing Bront 1305 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 5: stuff and they they've actually worn their stuff but even 1306 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 5: before Brunt became a sponsor, so it's like natural fit. 1307 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 5: But anyway, they're based right here in New England. They 1308 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 5: make work boots in apparel that are built for the 1309 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 5: job site. It's comfortable, durable and named after the real 1310 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 5: workers in the trades that help design it. You can 1311 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 5: even try Brunt out on the job and if it 1312 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 5: doesn't blow your way, they just let you send it back. 1313 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 5: You can save ten dollars on your first order at 1314 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 5: brontworkwear dot com, forward slash pats or with coupon code 1315 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 5: pa TS. 1316 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 4: So I got to get a new pair of boots. 1317 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 4: I did too. 1318 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,439 Speaker 8: I didn't wear them yesterday. I'm still afraid to put 1319 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,080 Speaker 8: them on and put wear them for actual work. And 1320 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 8: I edged a mulch bed yesterday. It was very satisfying. 1321 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 8: That's one of the things yard work that I find 1322 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 8: just incredibly like. 1323 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, mulch bed is one of those things you find, 1324 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's tough. 1325 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 4: It wasn't very big, it wasn't very big. Wanted to 1326 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 4: do it for a long time. I'll tell you. 1327 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 5: One of the most satisfying things I had work around 1328 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 5: the house. Just happened last week. 1329 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 2: I had to. 1330 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 5: Fix a part of the roof, so the roofers came in, 1331 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 5: and it's an old house, long story. They nailed through 1332 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 5: a part of the house that didn't have an installation, 1333 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 5: so the nails came right through into this closet area. 1334 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 5: So they had to pull all the nails. But obviously 1335 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 5: it was a mess, so you know, they didn't know. 1336 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 5: I didn't blame them, so I said, I'll fix it. 1337 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 5: So I ex give me a ladder, so you know, 1338 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 5: I shaved everything off and smoothed it out and everything, 1339 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 5: but there was one part where there were still nails 1340 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 5: down down below. 1341 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 3: So I said, what am I going to do with this? 1342 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 5: Because I'm not going to get on the roof, and 1343 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 5: because they're underneath the shingles, I can't get to them. 1344 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 5: So I had and I love it when I already 1345 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 5: have the tools. So I had a you know, big, 1346 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 5: you know, metal cutter, so I snipped as much as 1347 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 5: the nail as I could, and then I went to 1348 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 5: this pile of scrap wood that I've been keeping forever, like. 1349 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 4: The perfect you did it. 1350 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 3: You have the perfect piece, like four inch wide piece 1351 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 3: that I cut to length, put over it. 1352 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 4: Screwed it in. 1353 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 3: It looked perfect, and I was like, all right, you know, 1354 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 3: I knew I saved that would For some reason. 1355 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 8: I've seen that in a couple of viral videos and 1356 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 8: people making fun of that exact thing of like. 1357 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 2: Hold on, I think I have the exact piece, and 1358 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 2: then it's like. 1359 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 4: That just pile of dusty. 1360 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 3: Right perfect and it fit perfect, Like you know, I'm. 1361 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 8: A man, all right, you're talking, See Nikki, this is 1362 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 8: why I was keeping it. 1363 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 2: I spend the next two weeks just chirping Beth like 1364 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 2: this is why. See, that's just what you never know 1365 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 2: when you're gonna need it. And she's just like, yeah, okay, honey, alright. 1366 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 5: Deus talked about his uh you know story on the 1367 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 5: Cape with the guy with the ashes. Brett writes in 1368 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 5: He's from Leminster. He had something similar happened to me. 1369 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 5: I was I was the one dumping the ashes when 1370 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,959 Speaker 5: my father died. My dad was not particularly good man 1371 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 5: or father. He wanted his ashes dropped in Gloucester. As 1372 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 5: I got close enough to where I was going to 1373 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 5: pour them into the water, a boat came by, blasting 1374 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 5: Creden's clear water Revival's fortunate Son. 1375 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 4: I was at the most serious. 1376 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 3: I was at the most serious. 1377 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 4: I was going to be when I heard it ain't me. 1378 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 3: It ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, and I 1379 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 3: had him laugh. 1380 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 4: That's so there you go. Maybe it's kind of I 1381 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 4: don't know what life in the fastening would have met 1382 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 4: for those. 1383 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,959 Speaker 2: I find those things kind of fascinating. How many times 1384 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 2: something like that happened. 1385 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I went to one ashes dump off a boat 1386 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 8: off a long beach a long time ago. 1387 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 4: It all went fine, But it's you know, a little serious. 1388 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 3: So have you thought about, like what you want to 1389 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 3: do after your demise, Like do you care if they 1390 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 3: burn wife? 1391 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any You don't care. I don't either. 1392 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 5: No, I'm going to be cremated just because I don't 1393 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 5: want to be a prop bother for. 1394 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 4: Anybody where Oh I didn't. I haven't specified that. I 1395 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 4: don't really care about that either. 1396 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 2: I have thought about, like not necessarily like reincarnation, but 1397 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 2: what happens to you sort of your soul? Like can 1398 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 2: you actually can you watch do you like do you 1399 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 2: look down and do you like sort of revisit your life? 1400 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 3: See, I've thought about this too deep. 1401 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think, like what am I just 1402 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 4: a pretty face? 1403 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 3: No? No, no, But I think in that dimension, in that state, 1404 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 3: you have to forget about your senses. You have to 1405 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 3: you have to forget about seeing, hearing, smelling, touching, tasting. 1406 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 3: They don't exist anymore. So whatever whatever it is that 1407 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 3: happens to you in that pool, ain't. It's a different 1408 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 3: way of perceiving things that we can't understand right now 1409 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 3: because we're so you know, dependent on our senses to 1410 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 3: take in information and then our brain processes it. We're 1411 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 3: not going to have that anymore. So it's it's different. 1412 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 8: It's different, like looking at some old clothes, maybe the 1413 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 8: like I would love to be able to sort of 1414 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 8: re experience my own life. 1415 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 2: Like I'm not necessarily saying I'm going to be able 1416 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 2: to watch everybody regrets, but like I. 1417 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 3: Should have swung at that that third strike, like that 1418 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 3: was you. That's that's my biggest regret. 1419 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know if it would be 1420 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 2: able to like just look down upon the world and 1421 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 2: watch everything, you know, watch your kids grow up or whatever. 1422 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that's not necessarily something I would watch, 1423 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't mind being able to experience my own 1424 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 2: life and look back at the things I did right 1425 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 2: the things I did. 1426 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 3: Wrong, and think that would do that now you know. 1427 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about more vivid fighting. Yeah, it's called reflection. 1428 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 8: Well see, I might like my think the compliment is 1429 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 8: like is there really time? And like everything's all happening 1430 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 8: right now anyway, so like once you're. 1431 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 4: Back over to the other it is, it's not like, oh, 1432 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 4: we're still in twenty twenty. It's like it's all there's no. 1433 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 5: I would hope that i'd be released if I wouldn't, 1434 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 5: because like I go to the next level, like leave 1435 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 5: this life behind. 1436 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 4: Yeah and do something else. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, 1437 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll figure it out someday. 1438 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 3: Release me from these mortal coils. 1439 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 4: Yes, Father Fred? Was that a Father fredline? 1440 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 3: No, that's Shakespeare, that's Hamlet. 1441 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 4: Now you could have. 1442 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 2: Still you might have heard of them. 1443 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 8: So shoot, I just saw something the other day where 1444 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 8: it was it was a show I think that they're 1445 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 8: doing that reminded me a. 1446 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 4: Lot of Father Fred Crud. I wish I had snipped it, 1447 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 4: but I think it was something like that, like Crud. 1448 01:03:58,760 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 2: I'll find it. 1449 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 4: I'll try to get it for the next show. 1450 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to check out the documentary, 1451 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 2: the Jazz Documentary? 1452 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 4: I did, Thank you Paul for asking. Very good, very good? 1453 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 4: Did you did you? 1454 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 2: I didn't find like I learned. I mean this might 1455 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 2: you know, might be a me problem. I didn't find. 1456 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 2: I learned a whole lot. 1457 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,439 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I mean we're already a doctor at peace. 1458 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 2: Boy Capello put something on his Instagram saying it was 1459 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 2: it was good, and I agree, it was good. It 1460 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 2: was well, it was well done, I thought. But he 1461 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 2: felt like there is another one and he put a 1462 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 2: link to it, so I was going to try to 1463 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 2: there's more in it. 1464 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 5: Yeah all right, but the one you had to cancel 1465 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 5: a fan event. 1466 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. 1467 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's too bad. We were well that was, 1468 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, in fairness to them, like it's fiftieth anniversary 1469 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 2: and you know, Roy Scheider's gone, Robert Shaw is gone, like. 1470 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 3: This the Shark is gone. 1471 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean, good call, good call. But 1472 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 2: the one thing that that I did find interesting in 1473 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 2: this was how few Hollywood people were actually in it. 1474 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, and me too. 1475 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 13: I know. 1476 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 8: They said the basics like five people like the mayor, 1477 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 8: the three leads, Lorraine Gary and I think what the 1478 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 8: like the writer who is one of. 1479 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 5: The none of the nobody's ever ended up being anybody, 1480 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 5: and Christy Watkins. 1481 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 2: Christy Watkins, you know, Susan Backlany, I think her name. 1482 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 2: She was actually a Hollywood actress. But most of the 1483 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 2: people in it were either like locals that answered the ad. 1484 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 2: I think that even the deputy, who had a pretty 1485 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 2: significant speaking role. 1486 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 4: It really makes it seem like real people, right. 1487 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 5: Well when you think, when you think about it, the 1488 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 5: last half of the show is basically a one could 1489 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 5: be done on a stage of Broadway. 1490 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 2: Well they've done it, Yeah they have. Yeah, it's it's 1491 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 2: a show. Now the musical back to pat Patriots Unfiltered 1492 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 2: on TV. Our producer for that is a guy named 1493 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 2: Don Maxon, and he actually went and saw it. I 1494 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 2: think Robert. 1495 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 4: Shaw's son, I think, is the one who produced. 1496 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1497 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 8: A couple highlights for me were just first seeing the 1498 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 8: actual mechanics of the shark that they built and how 1499 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 8: exactly because I've seen plenty of diagrams, but to see 1500 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 8: how it kind of worked and how it didn't work, 1501 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 8: and then there were just a couple of shots from 1502 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 8: uh when Alex Kittner gets eaten and when the when 1503 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 8: the robot guy gets eaten that they show footage of 1504 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 8: what those attacks could have looked like. 1505 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 4: So you know the one. 1506 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 8: Fred where the guy's coming over in the rowboat to 1507 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 8: the kids, so that death. Initially the shot is just 1508 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 8: Michael kind of head on and you get the feeling 1509 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:31,800 Speaker 8: that the shark is like maybe. 1510 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 4: Gonna swim by him. But in the footage they show 1511 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 4: it was like the guy was still in the shark's 1512 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 4: mouth and then it like pushes Michael, so Michael's like 1513 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,959 Speaker 4: getting pushed by the shark while the guy is still 1514 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 4: in the shark's mouth, which is a lot more traumatizing. 1515 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 4: I mean still seeing a. 1516 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 2: Guy get back in front of your commentary is like, yeah, 1517 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 2: I didn't even send that to it. 1518 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 8: But even the Alex Kittner won too, which is it's 1519 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 8: been on Facebook a lot that that was supposed to 1520 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 8: be a lot more graphic attack and instead they chose 1521 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 8: to spoo it out slowly and give you little glimpses here, 1522 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 8: so you don't ever quite know what the shark is 1523 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 8: until that last shot or that shot when it comes out. 1524 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 5: You think like if if Jaws had never come out, 1525 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 5: the movie just didn't exist, and it came out now 1526 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five, do you think it would be 1527 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 5: a lot better back. 1528 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 8: You mean, like it was made, like it was made 1529 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 8: with modern technology and modern. 1530 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 4: Technology and like things. 1531 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 8: No, I don't think it could because they digital it 1532 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,120 Speaker 8: and they and then they could be a certain point, yeah, 1533 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 8: they at a certain point they would. 1534 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,440 Speaker 4: It just wouldn't have that authentic feel to it. 1535 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 2: So, I mean, obviously the guys that were talking about 1536 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 2: that line of thought were biased because they were the 1537 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 2: guys that were involved with making the Shark and yeahing 1538 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 2: those kinds of things, and they feel like it definitely 1539 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 2: would have suffered. Cgi. Even James Cameron I thought was 1540 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 2: pretty interesting. Well, I'm talking about some of that stuff. 1541 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 8: James Cameron made one of my other favorite movies, Aliens, 1542 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 8: which in eighty six was all practical too. At one 1543 01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 8: point when I was in California, I heard Stan Winston, 1544 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 8: who did all the effects for it before you before 1545 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 8: he died, speak and you know, he said, you can 1546 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 8: go back to eighty six and this all still holds up. 1547 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 8: It still looks like you are in the movie. He's like, 1548 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 8: I watched this stuff now that we do with the 1549 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 8: digital effects, and it takes you out of it. 1550 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 4: But maybe, like I'm. 1551 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 5: Not even saying that if they did it now, they 1552 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 5: would resonate with people. Maybe the shark would be you know, 1553 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 5: the physical shark would be that much better, and maybe 1554 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 5: the script would be more hard, hard hitting, Yeah, like 1555 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 5: more swearing or more realistic. 1556 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, in the right hands, I think you're you're right, 1557 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 8: Like if there was somebody like a Spielberg who wanted 1558 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 8: to build a modern shark and really do it practical 1559 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 8: to James Cameron. 1560 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 4: Because I think it's hard. 1561 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 8: To get scared of things that your brain processes. 1562 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 4: As that's that's a computer digit like. 1563 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 8: But there's something about puppetry and when it's done well 1564 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,600 Speaker 8: that it really looks real and it doesn't take you 1565 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 8: out of it. You still think that that shark was 1566 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 8: as bad as that shark was and as mechanical, they 1567 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 8: did an amazing job showing it just enough to make 1568 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 8: I thought some of the things that they were talking about, 1569 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,719 Speaker 8: like the marine biologists and things like that, talking about 1570 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,800 Speaker 8: how it would breach and then go to the side 1571 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 8: when it was attacking. 1572 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 2: That's extremely realistic the way that they shot some of 1573 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,560 Speaker 2: the scenes, and that's exactly. 1574 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,879 Speaker 4: How a great white would attack. It's prey. Uh huh. 1575 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 2: And I don't know if they knew all that when 1576 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 2: they were doing it. 1577 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 4: Was it was there a clip there was somebody called 1578 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 4: it the perfect movie. 1579 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 8: I think it might have been Quentin Tarantino. But I 1580 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 8: was just laughing thinking to Evan, who was like, yeah, 1581 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 8: it doesn't hold up. 1582 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 4: Oh I was, I was. 1583 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 2: It was so funny. There was a lot of those, 1584 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 2: and again they didn't get the people that didn't like 1585 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 2: it to participate in the documentary. There was plenty of 1586 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 2: people that were not, you know, involved in the project 1587 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 2: who spoke like. 1588 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 8: That, yeah, well what's her face Emily Emily Blunt, which 1589 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 8: I like, what's she doing here? 1590 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh. 1591 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 5: Jesse writes in for Pomona, California, can't wait to hear 1592 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,639 Speaker 5: the excitement from Fred during training camp. 1593 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 3: It gets me pumped. 1594 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 5: Paul's persuasiveness to not get my hopes up, Deuce's optimistic 1595 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 5: attitude on the defensive side of the ball, Alex's insight 1596 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 5: stories of all the new players, Evans wrought talent to 1597 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 5: explain what's going on out there? Uh practice practice practice 1598 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 5: question Week three against the Steelers. My wife and I 1599 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 5: will be there to watch the game. It'll be our 1600 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 5: first time traveling to Boston. What and who will you be? 1601 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:16,719 Speaker 2: Okay? 1602 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 3: Great, so there's no question after that. 1603 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 5: What and who would you be willing to trade for 1604 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:28,719 Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin? What you want second round pick McLaurin. 1605 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 2: No, you're not going to get them for that, okay, 1606 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 2: but I'd be willing to do that. Well, I mean 1607 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say you're not. That's not fair, Like you 1608 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 2: never know. Maybe they just get tired of it and 1609 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 2: they want to make a move. I would think it 1610 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 2: would be a first round pick. But yeah, I would 1611 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 2: give up a first round pick from Yeah, but I would. 1612 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 2: It's hard because I don't know exactly how good that 1613 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 2: they expect to be. If they think they're going to 1614 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 2: be like this ten win team that can make the playoffs, 1615 01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:58,880 Speaker 2: I would do that. 1616 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 4: You over the top, Yeah, gets you into that. 1617 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 2: Maybe make sure that we're going to win double wins 1618 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,040 Speaker 2: and you know, because there's still I think Fred's concern 1619 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 2: about the wide receiver spot is valid. Yeah, I do. 1620 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 2: I think that they might be missing still at that spot. 1621 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 3: Do you think, like the NBA is famous for future 1622 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 3: picks future draft picks, and the NFL does it a 1623 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 3: little bit, But do you think like when it comes 1624 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 3: to first round picks, the league will ever start like 1625 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 3: take a thing like this, I don't want to give 1626 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 3: him next year, but I'll give him a first round 1627 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 3: pick two years from now, And that might ever become 1628 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:34,639 Speaker 3: a thing in the NFL. 1629 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 8: I mean, it's regimes changed so quick. It's with lower 1630 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,720 Speaker 8: round picks, Yeah, they do. 1631 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 2: Like you hear about that once in a while, with 1632 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,720 Speaker 2: lower's second round pick this year, it's next year. 1633 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's usually like a year. But like there's no 1634 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,680 Speaker 5: like really looking into the future. 1635 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,919 Speaker 2: Like like no, Like the NBA is ridiculous. 1636 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 8: You think the owners are resistant to that because then 1637 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 8: it might handcuff a future coach from doing what they 1638 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,640 Speaker 8: need to do. So you know, yes, somebody come in 1639 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 8: and they clean you out of your draft picks for 1640 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 8: the next four years, and then their. 1641 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 3: Horror could help a future coach. 1642 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 4: You know, if they get the town, you're getting the pick. 1643 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 4: You know, I just be careful. 1644 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 8: I think I just think that's the easiest way to 1645 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,960 Speaker 8: stay good is to draft well and if you keep 1646 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,240 Speaker 8: your picks and you're you know, don't go chase the 1647 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 8: car and try to chase the shiny object. If you 1648 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,760 Speaker 8: stay the course and you just have solid drafts everything. 1649 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:24,760 Speaker 3: You know. 1650 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 5: Like to me, like, let's just say that you lose 1651 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin and you don't get a first round draft 1652 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,040 Speaker 5: pick for him for like two years down the road, 1653 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 5: that still is now an asset in my pocket. 1654 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have to I now can use that. 1655 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 5: First round pick to do something I wanted, you know, 1656 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,679 Speaker 5: So I would love to see them start trading these 1657 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 5: picks like that a little bit more. I think it 1658 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 5: would open it up for teams to exchange players a 1659 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:49,640 Speaker 5: little bit. 1660 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,679 Speaker 8: I mean, it's it feels a little bit like putting 1661 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 8: it on the credit card and yeah, we'll worry about 1662 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 8: that down down the road a little bit. 1663 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 3: The first round pick, the first round pick, you know, 1664 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 3: it could go up and value or could go down 1665 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 3: at value. 1666 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 4: It's hard to project too, because what what's that like? 1667 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 8: Are they going to be terrible in two years and 1668 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 8: that's going to be a top five first round pick, 1669 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 8: or are they are these moves going to allow them 1670 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 8: to get a Super Bowl and that's going to be 1671 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 8: a thirty. I mean, it's a huge disparity between what 1672 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 8: the value might be and even harder to project that 1673 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:17,480 Speaker 8: far out. 1674 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 5: Spi and Fresno. Here's a little game I call sleeping 1675 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 5: with the enemy. I'll list pairs of sports foes and 1676 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 5: you have to choose which one you side with, not 1677 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 5: saying you're necessarily root for either in a competitive context, 1678 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 5: just picked between them in terms of which you like 1679 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 5: or respect more. At a gut level, it's not who's 1680 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,679 Speaker 5: your worst enemy, it's who's your best enemy? 1681 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 4: Peyton or Matt Magic? Peyton? 1682 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 2: Who do I likening? 1683 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 4: Vers Menage John? 1684 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:46,800 Speaker 2: Who do I like more? 1685 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1686 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning? 1687 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? But uh, Marianno or Jeter Mariano Rivera. 1688 01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,680 Speaker 2: Let's talking about Mariano Rivera. 1689 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, Terrell Suggs or Richard Sherman. 1690 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,960 Speaker 8: Uh Sugs Shermans a bad guy. 1691 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 2: Sherman's kind of allowed a bad bad guy. Yeah, didn't 1692 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,519 Speaker 2: you like throw bleach on his girlfriend or somebody? 1693 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 4: Sherman? 1694 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,839 Speaker 3: Ray Lewis or lt. 1695 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 2: Oh do I like more? That's tough Ray Lewis, That's 1696 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 2: a tough one. 1697 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 4: Though. 1698 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 5: Here's a trio to rank Mike Tomlin, Rex Ryan, Andy Reid. 1699 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,599 Speaker 8: Oh, in terms of like yeah, Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, 1700 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:34,839 Speaker 8: Rex Ryan, Yeah. 1701 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:35,920 Speaker 3: That's how I like all those guys. 1702 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,600 Speaker 2: I would go Andy Reid, Rex Rex Ryan, Mike Tomlin. 1703 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 3: Okay, Kevin Colbert or Bill Pollian, Yeah, Tom Brady or 1704 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. Bill, we need to do that one, Eric 1705 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 3: Scalavino or your many rescue dog with active rabies. 1706 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,680 Speaker 2: That's the that's come on, that's just poor to me. 1707 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course we take the dog. 1708 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:06,040 Speaker 4: Let's see. 1709 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 5: Let's go back to the phones. They're piling up here. 1710 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,200 Speaker 5: People are waiting patiently, I might. 1711 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 2: Add, Oh, and especially for this one. 1712 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 4: You can't Virginia, what's up to see? 1713 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 9: Oh God, how you go doing? 1714 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 4: All right? 1715 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 9: Good? Good? I wanted to talk about what John. We'll 1716 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 9: talk about that first, Like the first part of this 1717 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:31,439 Speaker 9: segment about there's probably not get certain kind of winds 1718 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,559 Speaker 9: or whatever, like you gonna look at it. Most don't 1719 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 9: really perfect for real, some of the things you guys 1720 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 9: mentioned or whatever you got talking about. I mean, there's 1721 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 9: a uh, this is gota come to dital Smith or whatever. 1722 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:48,559 Speaker 9: Because he was at pianos. He was throwing through and 1723 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 9: like the Locket, Uh a good book. I can't probably 1724 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 9: putting his name at Calf. Look, we're gonna be throws 1725 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 9: to in in oplan. 1726 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 2: Brock Powers and Jacoby brock Bowers might be better than 1727 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 2: any of the guys who was throwing to in Seattle. 1728 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,519 Speaker 2: Brock Bowers might be better than anyone he was throwing 1729 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 2: in in Seattle. 1730 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, but you have to have multiple guys though. 1731 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Jacobe Myers, they had two and you have the 1732 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 2: Raiders have two. 1733 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 3: He might have one of the most dynamic running backs 1734 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 3: in the league. 1735 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,840 Speaker 2: We don't know yeteah, I mean, I'm not telling you 1736 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 2: what the Raiders are going to be because like my 1737 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,719 Speaker 2: Boyfeller girl likes to say, I can't see the future. 1738 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen. But on paper, 1739 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 2: they have the makings of a decent skill crew. That's interesting. 1740 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly there as the new offensive coordinator. That could 1741 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,040 Speaker 2: absolutely work. Like you know, Tyler Lockett was at the 1742 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,160 Speaker 2: end of the road Smith and Jig but was a 1743 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,760 Speaker 2: good slot receiver and DK Metcalf was kind of a 1744 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,839 Speaker 2: one trick pony. Yeah, they have brock Bowers and Jacoby 1745 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:56,800 Speaker 2: Myers's to me, that's comple That's comparable and gent he's 1746 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 2: better than any running back. 1747 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,799 Speaker 9: Then I believe the Patriot. 1748 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see. Yeah, well I hope. So we talk 1749 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 4: about Max Crosby. 1750 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 2: They didn't they didn't last year. That's you know, that's all. Yeah, 1751 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 2: but they have absolutely improved on paper defensive, so that 1752 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 2: some guys that should be better than what they had 1753 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 2: last year. 1754 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 4: Shawn. 1755 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 3: Right now, the Patriots are favored by three in that game. 1756 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 3: So the odds makers sound like they agree with you. 1757 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 4: Right now it's three and a half. 1758 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 2: Well you say that, that's you don't have speakers, don't 1759 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:30,639 Speaker 2: have the time. 1760 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,800 Speaker 9: Person for the most part is Meca and I'm. 1761 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 4: Good huh yep. 1762 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,759 Speaker 5: And and we've got the best cornerback duo in the league. 1763 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:40,640 Speaker 2: So that. 1764 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, all right, you've convinced me one and 1765 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 5: oh one and no, Deshaun, thanks for the call. Let's 1766 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 5: go to Dan and Poughkeepsie. 1767 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 3: What's up, Dan? 1768 01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,280 Speaker 12: Hey guys, are you guys playing another game? 1769 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:01,759 Speaker 4: Overall? Was up for games? 1770 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 2: I would love to play playing games. 1771 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 12: All right. It's called get that player. I'm going to 1772 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 12: describe a play in Patriots history. All you have to 1773 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,799 Speaker 12: do is get the Patriot involved. 1774 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,520 Speaker 5: Paul will the spotlights on, Paul, Yeah, all right, go ahead. 1775 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 12: Right so first twenty fourteen AFC Championship game against the Colts. 1776 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 12: In the third third quarter, a sixteen year touchdown was 1777 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 12: caught by this non receiver to expand the lead. 1778 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 2: Nate Soldier. 1779 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:28,519 Speaker 25: Yeah. 1780 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,600 Speaker 12: Nineteen ninety three, Week eighteen versus the Dolphins. In the 1781 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 12: fourth quarter, one fourteen left in the game, Drew Bledstone 1782 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 12: conceded an eleven yard go ahead touchdown to this player. 1783 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 3: Oh, well, go ahead because. 1784 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 2: Right, Michael Timpson. 1785 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 3: It was actually Ben Coates be okay. 1786 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 12: Twenty sixteen, Week fourteen against the Ravens. First quarter, this 1787 01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 12: player jumped over the center to block a Justin Tucker 1788 01:18:59,320 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 12: field goal. 1789 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:04,520 Speaker 4: Shane McClellan, Yeah, that's correct. 1790 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,559 Speaker 12: Wild Card versus the Jets, second quarter. Vince Player caught 1791 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 12: a touchdown pass in the back of the unzoned seconds 1792 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,720 Speaker 12: before halftime to help it make seventeen to ten. 1793 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I remember that, I love Jabar Gaffney. 1794 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 12: It was actually Daniel Graham. 1795 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 4: Okay, took a shot and then this is the last one. 1796 01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 2: Can't win if you don't play hard. 1797 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 12: Nineteen eighty five Wild Card versus the Jets, third quarter. 1798 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 12: Vince player recovered a fumble and returned it fifteen yards 1799 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,320 Speaker 12: for a touchdown on a fumbled kickoff. 1800 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:45,599 Speaker 2: Oh, jos, Cidrick Jones, is that the right answer? 1801 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,679 Speaker 4: I just watched this. I should know, CG. Jones. 1802 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 2: Now I was going to go Jim Bowman, but Deuce 1803 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:51,719 Speaker 2: was going Ciedrick Jones. 1804 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,960 Speaker 4: It was Johnny Rembert. 1805 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 2: I remember, now you should I shouldn't know. 1806 01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:58,519 Speaker 12: I know. 1807 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 4: That's a good game. And I love excellent good stuff. 1808 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 2: Excellent game. Not an easy one, yeah, not a couple though. 1809 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,400 Speaker 2: Let's see who is this person? Somebody named Christian in La. 1810 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:11,439 Speaker 2: What's up, Christian? 1811 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:14,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, hey you guys. Hope you guys are having a 1812 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 9: great summer. 1813 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 4: Thanks. 1814 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 25: I just came back from taking my kids up and 1815 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 25: driving up and down the coast of Oregon. Great this 1816 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,280 Speaker 25: time of year. Just didos and kind of chick out 1817 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,559 Speaker 25: the coast, and I hope you guys. 1818 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,120 Speaker 2: Just plays the hits every time you went a convertible. 1819 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 3: Were you guys in a convertible. 1820 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:37,680 Speaker 4: On the coast, But we were in a Tesla Tesla. 1821 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 2: On the way down. You just stopping wine country A. 1822 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 6: Little bit. 1823 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 9: Eleven year old and thirteen year. 1824 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,600 Speaker 2: Old with kids, so they swam with the Do you 1825 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 2: had an anty taking them? 1826 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1827 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:54,719 Speaker 9: Right know, dude. From a guy's perspective, it was good talk, 1828 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,519 Speaker 9: you know, the guys to young guys, just trying to 1829 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,120 Speaker 9: seeing how their heads are these days as young or 1830 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 9: a different than when we were young. 1831 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:02,679 Speaker 4: Have you had to talk yet? 1832 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 25: No, because I think that they're they're kind of seeing 1833 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 25: that stuff in the intering that thing, and I want 1834 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,760 Speaker 25: to figure out how to approach it from beth respectus 1835 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 25: like we were young Turty magazine under the uncle's you know, mattress, so. 1836 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,120 Speaker 9: There was a greater way to talk about it. I'm 1837 01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,680 Speaker 9: trying to figure that out still, Okay, all right, sure, 1838 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 9: I'm mad at you guys. I got a boot to 1839 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 9: pick at you guys because and it goes with this 1840 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 9: call earlier. But someone that said they weren't happy with 1841 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,840 Speaker 9: him wins And it kind of sounded like my call 1842 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:35,760 Speaker 9: like a couple of weeks. 1843 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't you. It was on a 1844 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 2: different show, right, I brought you up. 1845 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,640 Speaker 25: I'm saying it kind of sounded like my call that 1846 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,600 Speaker 25: you guys and the rest of the callers gave me 1847 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,080 Speaker 25: up about with my call. It was with a great 1848 01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,920 Speaker 25: season or a good season, and I said, for me, 1849 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,280 Speaker 25: a great season would need to be getting always Tama 1850 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,599 Speaker 25: Ways and getting a playoff when you guys gave me gup, 1851 01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 25: and I thought about that. Here's why I'm angry at 1852 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,320 Speaker 25: you guys. If you guys look at low into it, 1853 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 25: since it's some places like a Jets fan or or 1854 01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,000 Speaker 25: a Cleveland Browns fan where you're like, they're the last 1855 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 25: two years really had four wins. 1856 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,559 Speaker 9: So yeah, it lookd be great to get eight, nine, 1857 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,280 Speaker 9: ten wins. That would be a great season. No, we 1858 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 9: are coming off of twenty years, twenty years of excellent. 1859 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,880 Speaker 9: Look to me as a Patriots fan, I expect to 1860 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,200 Speaker 9: get back to that. Eight wins, nine wins, that's a 1861 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,360 Speaker 9: good season, ten wins in a playoff game. 1862 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 2: So this didn't have anything to do with the call 1863 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 2: that I was talking about then, because you got the 1864 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 2: guy that called on our show when I was on 1865 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:40,160 Speaker 2: with Zoe and Tim mccoon last week, said it would 1866 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 2: be a bad season, not a good season or a 1867 01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,880 Speaker 2: great season, a bad season. He's not interested in winning 1868 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,559 Speaker 2: ten games. He thinks that would not be good. He'd 1869 01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 2: be upset with that is what he said. So we 1870 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 2: really didn't have anything to do with this call. Yeah, 1871 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,479 Speaker 2: and it's not the same at all. 1872 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 9: He probably shared some of what I'm feeling. 1873 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't it sounds like you think that 1874 01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,720 Speaker 2: would be good. No, you think you think ten wins 1875 01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,080 Speaker 2: would be good. We think it would be great. This 1876 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,040 Speaker 2: guy thinks it would be bad. So it's really got 1877 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,639 Speaker 2: nothing to do with what you're saying at all. 1878 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,479 Speaker 5: And Plus, if you really think they're going to get 1879 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 5: back to the dynasty, I mean we all hope they will, 1880 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:12,640 Speaker 5: but is that realistic? 1881 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 20: No? 1882 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,280 Speaker 2: I just would caution you to just instead of worrying 1883 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,760 Speaker 2: about the twenty years that happened twenty five years ago, 1884 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,760 Speaker 2: happened about why don't you focus on the last five 1885 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 2: years and what happened then and then say you wouldn't 1886 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,560 Speaker 2: be happy with ten wins? Right? 1887 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 9: Not that focus in the last fight. That's not who 1888 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:28,000 Speaker 9: we have. 1889 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,479 Speaker 4: Been, But that's who you are. So that is who 1890 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:31,880 Speaker 4: you are. 1891 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 3: I'm not who I was twenty years ago, and there's 1892 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:35,160 Speaker 3: no sense. 1893 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,760 Speaker 2: Worrying about twenty eighteen. Yeah, that was a long time ago. 1894 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 2: I didn't say anything about satisfaction. I said, that's who 1895 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 2: you are. 1896 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 9: I could be satisfied. 1897 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 2: I didn't say you should be satisfied. You can do 1898 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,360 Speaker 2: whatever you want. As a fan, I don't. I don't 1899 01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,040 Speaker 2: tell people what to what to feel, and what to think, 1900 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,080 Speaker 2: but I think that people have a warped sense of 1901 01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 2: what is actually a successful scene. 1902 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 5: Wanting to win super Bowls is different than expecting them 1903 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:05,080 Speaker 5: to win Super Bowl. 1904 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,080 Speaker 2: Yes, the goal is to win a super Bowl, but 1905 01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,920 Speaker 2: the reality is you're not in position to win a Super. 1906 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,559 Speaker 9: Bowl team if you have nothing to draw on like 1907 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 9: other teams. I can see how you guys are feeling, 1908 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 9: but we do have something to draw on. 1909 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 4: No, you don't, not recently, you don't. 1910 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 2: Do you ever won a playoff game since twenty eighteen. 1911 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,000 Speaker 3: If our roster was the same roster as twenty fourteen, 1912 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:25,960 Speaker 3: I'd be right with you. 1913 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 4: But it's not. 1914 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,439 Speaker 5: These are a whole different players, different coach, everything's different. 1915 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,160 Speaker 9: Look exactly what I'm saying. We got new coaches, and 1916 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 9: we supposedly did a kind a good draft. So yeah, 1917 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 9: the expectation that we are getting back to what we're 1918 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 9: supposed to be, that's what We've got a new coach. 1919 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 3: What's the what's the empirical evidence that you have that 1920 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 3: they will get back to where you think they should be, 1921 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,280 Speaker 3: which is dynasty. 1922 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,599 Speaker 25: My empirical evidence is that supposedly they've hired the right coach. 1923 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 4: Well, you just you just entered a. 1924 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,960 Speaker 5: Word into the conversation. That's not a miracle. You said, supposedly. 1925 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,680 Speaker 5: I'm talking about hard evidence. What hard evidence do you 1926 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,759 Speaker 5: have that they are now a Super Bowl contender. 1927 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,519 Speaker 9: It hasn't happened yet, But that even hasn't what you thought. 1928 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 13: Haven't even happened yet. 1929 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,880 Speaker 4: I know, I know, but hasn't happened yet. It brings 1930 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,960 Speaker 4: something else up that you guys used to Thanks Christian, 1931 01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:22,799 Speaker 4: another good try to troll everybody. 1932 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 2: You guys used to browbeat Andy and I when we said, 1933 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,680 Speaker 2: you know, there are other teams that have had successful 1934 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,639 Speaker 2: runs during the Remember we talk about like, you know, 1935 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,040 Speaker 2: the Eagles going to four NFC Championship games in a row, 1936 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 2: and you know, they didn't have to say the Colts. 1937 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,799 Speaker 3: Were and were not for the Patriots, they would be Colts. 1938 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 2: And now with Kansas City's doing and we've been mocked 1939 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 2: and ridiculed for pointing out that other teams have actually 1940 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 2: been successful too, because quote, no one will ever do 1941 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 2: what the Patriots did over that twenty year span. Right, 1942 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 2: how many times you hear people say that, Freddy sure, 1943 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 2: that will never happen again. Now I'm supposed to think 1944 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 2: the Patriots should be back to doing that, Right, You 1945 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,639 Speaker 2: guys spent two decades telling me that no one will 1946 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 2: ever do that again. It's the greatest dynasty in the 1947 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,519 Speaker 2: history of sport and it will never be delicated with 1948 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 2: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick did. No one will ever 1949 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,240 Speaker 2: do that again. And now I can't be happy unless I. 1950 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 5: Get back to that, And to expect them to do 1951 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 5: that is diminishing what that was like. The fact that 1952 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,799 Speaker 5: you think it can be repeated so quickly takes away 1953 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:30,439 Speaker 5: from how amazing that was. 1954 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,599 Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I'm going to be happy to win 1955 01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 2: ten games. If they happen to win ten games this year, 1956 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 2: I'm not expecting them to ever have a stretch of 1957 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,840 Speaker 2: dominance over a twenty year period that they had. I'm 1958 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,000 Speaker 2: not expecting that. If it happens, great, but I'm not 1959 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 2: going to sit there and say I'm not going to 1960 01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 2: be happy unless it's going to be like it was 1961 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 2: back in the day, because I want to enjoy my 1962 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 2: team like I'm not going to like expect something that's 1963 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,120 Speaker 2: so un realistic that maybe it's like lightning in a 1964 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,959 Speaker 2: bottle and it happens once a lifetime. 1965 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:06,840 Speaker 8: And that's what I was just gonna say, you'd be 1966 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,240 Speaker 8: lucky to catch lightning in a bottle. Again, there's a 1967 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 8: handful of teams that consistently are in the running for 1968 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,720 Speaker 8: Super Bowl, but I would say a large majority of 1969 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,080 Speaker 8: super Bowl champions are really made out of teams that 1970 01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 8: have two or three year runs where they're really good, 1971 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 8: and they have Super Bowl this year, I'm not going 1972 01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,439 Speaker 8: to be happy because that's only one right. 1973 01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,200 Speaker 2: It's a good start, and it's a good start, it's 1974 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 2: something to be excited about going forward. But if they 1975 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,800 Speaker 2: don't do it for twenty years, it's not the same. 1976 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:36,320 Speaker 5: And to the main flaw among many in Christian's argument 1977 01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,040 Speaker 5: is that this team has done it before. No, it 1978 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,440 Speaker 5: hasn't a team named the Patriots did it. This team, 1979 01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,320 Speaker 5: as it's comprised, has never done that before, has never 1980 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,599 Speaker 5: done that before, and there's no evidence right now that 1981 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:54,160 Speaker 5: they can do that. To want that, we all want that, 1982 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 5: but to expect that again is completely crazy. 1983 01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,880 Speaker 3: You're gonna be disappointed for the rest of your life. 1984 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 2: And that's where Christians. You know, first of all, I 1985 01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:04,720 Speaker 2: don't really believe that he believes this. 1986 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 12: Ing. 1987 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,880 Speaker 2: If that's what he's wanting, that's you're prerogative as a fan, 1988 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,880 Speaker 2: but you're never going to have a standard that you 1989 01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,559 Speaker 2: want to reach. But I don't think that's ever going 1990 01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,639 Speaker 2: to give you any fulfillment because I don't think it's 1991 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 2: realistic that they're going to have another twenty year run 1992 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,680 Speaker 2: that's going to duplicate what they did, and. 1993 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,479 Speaker 4: How many teams just want one, They just want one. 1994 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,840 Speaker 2: Kansas City is not even halfway there, right, I mean, 1995 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 2: they're halfway there in terms of Super Bowl titles, but 1996 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 2: they're not halfway there in terms of twenty years of dominance. 1997 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,479 Speaker 2: Should you not be happy if you're in Kansas City 1998 01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 2: because it's pales in comparison, or are you happy because, well, 1999 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,320 Speaker 2: Kansas City's never done it so they don't know, Like, 2000 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,200 Speaker 2: it's not a complacency. I don't want to be a 2001 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,160 Speaker 2: bottom dweller, So if they can move themselves from a 2002 01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,599 Speaker 2: bottom dweller to a playoff contender, I would consider that progress. 2003 01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely no one likes four and thirteen seasons. 2004 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 8: I mean, with Joe Cardona out the door, there's nothing left. 2005 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 8: There's nothing left from that wild run. This is completely 2006 01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 8: new and how lucky you would be if it's. 2007 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,040 Speaker 2: Gonna be the next seventh season removed from a playoff win. 2008 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 4: It's a lot. 2009 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I said, that's what you are. We're not 2010 01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 2: the twenty years that happened from from all one to during. 2011 01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,880 Speaker 5: The dynasty, we were pulling our hair out because it 2012 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 5: was ten years since they'd won a super Bowl. 2013 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, during that ten years, they were. 2014 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 2: In yeah, they were in super Bowls. They were in 2015 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,400 Speaker 2: conference championships every ye week. They go eleven in conference 2016 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,280 Speaker 2: championships in a row, something silly like that. 2017 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 5: But our expectations back then was we haven't won one, 2018 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,320 Speaker 5: which okay, eleven. 2019 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,839 Speaker 2: To eighteen, you know how many whatever that is nine. 2020 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 3: Because you were always close every year. But we're so 2021 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:38,439 Speaker 3: far removed from that. 2022 01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 4: Like no, no, good, good try Christian. But he is 2023 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,559 Speaker 4: a like a next level Oh he gets he gets excited. 2024 01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,920 Speaker 8: Well if you can embody the spoiled Patriots fan and 2025 01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 8: be like, you know, I have unrealistic exce but he's. 2026 01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 2: Good at it. Like even like he starts off, I 2027 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,639 Speaker 2: just you know, the drive down from Oregon, like it's 2028 01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:01,000 Speaker 2: definitely and I do I appreciate it because, as you 2029 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 2: guys know, I like to be snarky. I like that. 2030 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,320 Speaker 8: That's you know what's another part of the though, Fred, 2031 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,760 Speaker 8: I don't think that we as like the players like 2032 01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,519 Speaker 8: all these players like they have no concept of what 2033 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,160 Speaker 8: that Patriots teams like, they. 2034 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:13,080 Speaker 4: Have no connection to it. 2035 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,160 Speaker 8: A guy like Robert Spelane has been, you know, slowly 2036 01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,160 Speaker 8: working his way up, and he is superhull. 2037 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,000 Speaker 2: Pepper who's never been on a winning team. I mean, right, 2038 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 2: do you think he'd be happy to go ten and 2039 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:27,839 Speaker 2: seven thrilled? Make the playoffs feel like he's part of buildings? 2040 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 5: And yes, that shouldn't be your ultimate goal, but babe, 2041 01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 5: you know, we got to get. 2042 01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:40,960 Speaker 3: To a level of respectability first. James James writes in 2043 01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 3: Army James at North Carolina Army, thank you for your service. 2044 01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 3: If that's true, Hey. 2045 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,240 Speaker 2: Guys, longtime custon of stealing valor. 2046 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 5: Well, he says that's a shot at Marine Matt, So 2047 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's kidding or not. 2048 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,280 Speaker 4: I guess army versus Marine? Maybe is that what he's saying? 2049 01:30:58,439 --> 01:30:58,679 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2050 01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:06,080 Speaker 5: That much? Oh, long time listener, long enough to be 2051 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 5: confident that the Africa book never came out. 2052 01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,360 Speaker 2: I think, be confident confidence. 2053 01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,639 Speaker 5: I'm excited to get a chance to see the legit 2054 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 5: talent on this team. With experience and the coaching staff 2055 01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,439 Speaker 5: and some luck, hopefully we can sidestep the ever present 2056 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,439 Speaker 5: injury bug. What depth moves can be made before week 2057 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:28,920 Speaker 5: one to most prepare us to play next Man up ball? 2058 01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,600 Speaker 8: Grab another edge, Grab one of the veteran edges that 2059 01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:38,200 Speaker 8: are out there, just a little somebody's played support, build some. 2060 01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,880 Speaker 4: Depth that'll help you play next man up ball. Yeah, 2061 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:41,240 Speaker 4: I think so. 2062 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,240 Speaker 8: I mean, I think that's just a place where you 2063 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,519 Speaker 8: lose one guy and it's it's gonna get hard to 2064 01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,240 Speaker 8: play next Man up ball. You're gonna quickly be putting 2065 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,080 Speaker 8: guys into you know, positions that. 2066 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,479 Speaker 4: They all stay healthy. I think they'll be okay. But 2067 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 4: that's one place I think you pull the thread. It 2068 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,799 Speaker 4: unravels pretty quick. Paul's pawn it brought up left tackle. 2069 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,719 Speaker 4: I mean, that's I don't know if there's. 2070 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:05,439 Speaker 2: Anything generally, because one of them is thirty four fives, yeah, 2071 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,120 Speaker 2: and the other ones, you know, just starting his career, 2072 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,240 Speaker 2: and I don't I think if you lose either one 2073 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:12,920 Speaker 2: of them, you're right back where you were last year. 2074 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm hoping that maybe different coaching staff can get 2075 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:17,200 Speaker 8: different results. 2076 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 2: Of Maybe Kayden Wallace is a better right tackle this 2077 01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:20,840 Speaker 2: year than he was last. 2078 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:25,240 Speaker 8: One of these more prepared something, you know, something emergency. 2079 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,840 Speaker 8: You know, can Kad and Wallas just be the swing 2080 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,840 Speaker 8: tackle where Yeah, it was like Cam Fleming, like a 2081 01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,479 Speaker 8: guy who just like you know, when he has to 2082 01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:32,680 Speaker 8: go in there, he's fine like you. 2083 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't it doesn't fall apart if he has to 2084 01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:40,560 Speaker 2: go in there. And there was the kid, Uh do 2085 01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 2: we have two different Jacobs tackles? I know, Dimantra Jacobs. 2086 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,719 Speaker 2: There was another one that was seventy two. 2087 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,080 Speaker 4: Might have been the Jacobs they got really him. 2088 01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,640 Speaker 2: Like it kind of fell apart when he had to 2089 01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,560 Speaker 2: go with Yeah, yeah, I don't remember his name. I 2090 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,400 Speaker 2: don't mean to be disrespectful, but you guys know, if 2091 01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,240 Speaker 2: you ask me something from nineteen eighty two, I can 2092 01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:01,759 Speaker 2: get you. He asked me something from last year, I can't. 2093 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:08,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, when that kid went in, it kind of deteriorated. 2094 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,640 Speaker 2: So you want to get to a point where you 2095 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,280 Speaker 2: have a little bit better options. And I think if 2096 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,559 Speaker 2: Cayden Wallace, to Mike's point, turns out to be a 2097 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,120 Speaker 2: good solid swing tackle that you know, I don't have 2098 01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:19,640 Speaker 2: to I can set it and forget it. If he 2099 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,960 Speaker 2: has to go in, I don't have to change my offense. 2100 01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:23,040 Speaker 2: That would be a great sign. 2101 01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:27,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, Dylan writes in says I wanted to clear up 2102 01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,360 Speaker 5: the gatekeeping take from last week. Since Fred doesn't read 2103 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:34,439 Speaker 5: my emails, I can't read them all. It was presented 2104 01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 5: somewhat disingenuously that some fans gatekeep the Patriots fan base 2105 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,839 Speaker 5: if you're fans of other teams such as the Yankees 2106 01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:42,519 Speaker 5: and Bulls. 2107 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:43,799 Speaker 4: That's not true. 2108 01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,080 Speaker 5: What actually happens is that when the Celtics or Red 2109 01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:50,280 Speaker 5: Sox do good, the crew talks about it, and then 2110 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,439 Speaker 5: fans have to write a call to say stick to 2111 01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 5: the Patriots because not everyone is a fan of all 2112 01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,479 Speaker 5: Boston sports. And in that case, yes, we're better than 2113 01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,600 Speaker 5: you anyway. Red Sox ten in a row, baby one 2114 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,720 Speaker 5: hundred million less than the Yankees, and we have the 2115 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,240 Speaker 5: same record. Drake may will be top ten quarterback this year. 2116 01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 3: Book it okay, hope don't. I don't understand what he's saying. 2117 01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,320 Speaker 2: Why does it make you feel good? That you spend 2118 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 2: one hundred million less than somebody. 2119 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:15,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care. 2120 01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,120 Speaker 2: What do you make? What did you get from that? 2121 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,559 Speaker 2: Paying your most expensive tickets in the league? But what 2122 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:21,720 Speaker 2: it's a lot in it for you. 2123 01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 3: Then, But do you understand the last part of this? 2124 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:25,800 Speaker 3: The crew talks about it, and then fans have to 2125 01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,559 Speaker 3: write or call to say stick to Patriots because not 2126 01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,519 Speaker 3: everyone is a fan of all boss and sports. I 2127 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,160 Speaker 3: get that, and in that case, yes, we're better than you. 2128 01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:38,200 Speaker 3: Who's who's us? We are better? 2129 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:39,320 Speaker 4: Who's we'd like? 2130 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,679 Speaker 2: Patriots fans like who like the I this is something 2131 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 2: that happened last week. I don't know. There's gatekeeping things, 2132 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,120 Speaker 2: so I don't know the origins. Well it's it's but 2133 01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,479 Speaker 2: I take it as he's talking about fan Patriots fans. 2134 01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,640 Speaker 3: Fans don't like the newcomers. 2135 01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,840 Speaker 2: They key there are no long time Patriots fans. They've 2136 01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:56,280 Speaker 2: been around since week three of All One. 2137 01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,080 Speaker 4: Well the band they don't like the Bandwagon fans. 2138 01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so. 2139 01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,480 Speaker 4: I'm not your fans. 2140 01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:04,679 Speaker 3: You don't understand. 2141 01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:05,519 Speaker 4: And he's another email. 2142 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:13,200 Speaker 3: Okay, he's just thinking about the health of Richard dry. 2143 01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 4: I told you for we worked with Richard Dreyfus who 2144 01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,240 Speaker 4: was kind of painting the butt. I've heard that a lot. 2145 01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:19,760 Speaker 4: I've heard that a lot. 2146 01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:26,200 Speaker 2: It just seems like very smug and arrogant, kind of 2147 01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:28,720 Speaker 2: like Jason Alexander. 2148 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 3: Sure, oh yeah, Like Jim's really going downhill with. 2149 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:38,320 Speaker 2: Commercials and George. Yeah, I wonder if he had some 2150 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,120 Speaker 2: bad investments that he's trying to chase now, because I 2151 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 2: agree he's been in some like commercial money's passing. 2152 01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:45,200 Speaker 4: Do you think like he. 2153 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,479 Speaker 5: Or Michael Richards ever calls Jerry say he could you 2154 01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:48,800 Speaker 5: give me a little bit of money? 2155 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,200 Speaker 4: I mean, like, I know you and Michael, what. 2156 01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:53,840 Speaker 2: Do you think about getting the band back together? 2157 01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2158 01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,360 Speaker 3: You know, can you do some type of fundraiser for me? 2159 01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,520 Speaker 2: Because the other two are highly successful? 2160 01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:04,760 Speaker 8: You yeah, right, But if George is doing commercials and stuff, 2161 01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:06,920 Speaker 8: well we were just talking about the type of commercials 2162 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:08,680 Speaker 8: are like, you know, but. 2163 01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,600 Speaker 2: He's probably making some pretty good money. 2164 01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,880 Speaker 3: Doing Oh sure, but like still like. 2165 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,479 Speaker 2: And Michael Richards got himself in some trouble, right, oh yeah, 2166 01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:16,960 Speaker 2: he got kind of cant. 2167 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,320 Speaker 3: He got I don't even know if he lives in 2168 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:19,120 Speaker 3: America anymore. 2169 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:19,559 Speaker 4: Really. 2170 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,920 Speaker 3: Sean's and Vancouver on the Hotline what's up Sean. 2171 01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:26,960 Speaker 10: Hey Paul, I'm your age and I've been on a 2172 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,280 Speaker 10: Patriots fan for as long as I can remember, so 2173 01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,200 Speaker 10: that's a way before two thousand and one. 2174 01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,040 Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about what they're talking about, the Johnny 2175 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,040 Speaker 2: cum latelies. Oh yeah, there's a lot, that's what they're 2176 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,320 Speaker 2: railing against. Not I mean, obviously I grew up here. 2177 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:42,799 Speaker 2: I've been a Patriots fan my whole life. 2178 01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So I just want to 2179 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,800 Speaker 10: talk about Jaws of that. You were mentioning that there 2180 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,320 Speaker 10: weren't a lot of big stars, but when when this 2181 01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,639 Speaker 10: movie was before it actually was shot, the initial budget 2182 01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:56,880 Speaker 10: was was four millions, so they didn't expect it. 2183 01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,360 Speaker 2: To be Can I just interrupt it for one second, Sean, 2184 01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,960 Speaker 2: they actually had big star Like Robert Shaw was a 2185 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,600 Speaker 2: big star. They didn't have any Hollywood actors. There was 2186 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,200 Speaker 2: I believe seven. 2187 01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:08,800 Speaker 4: Yea like all the supporting roles. 2188 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,040 Speaker 2: Most of the people that show up on the movie 2189 01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,360 Speaker 2: were not like professional actors and actresses. It was as 2190 01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:19,200 Speaker 2: Mike said, it was Robert Shaw, Roy Scheider, Lemaine, Gary 2191 01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:25,040 Speaker 2: Richard Dreyfus, Carl Gottlieb and Chrissy Watkins and Susan murk 2192 01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:30,519 Speaker 2: Lee and the mayor Murray Hamilton. Murray Hamilton. That was it. 2193 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:34,240 Speaker 2: Everybody else was like either an extra or a local 2194 01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,839 Speaker 2: some some sort. They weren't like Hollywood actors and actresses. 2195 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,880 Speaker 2: But the ones that they had were good names, like 2196 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,599 Speaker 2: Richard du Roy Scheider and Robert Shaw especially, they were 2197 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:46,440 Speaker 2: big names. 2198 01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,120 Speaker 10: You know that they were Paul, there were people like 2199 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,760 Speaker 10: that were really raking in the box up. So and 2200 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:56,559 Speaker 10: this is Pielberg's second big movie, like his circulant expresses 2201 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,640 Speaker 10: when it was coming off, but he didn't have the 2202 01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,400 Speaker 10: the a name that you would later get. 2203 01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 4: You know, well, I think not having like the huge, 2204 01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:06,240 Speaker 4: huge superstar. 2205 01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,519 Speaker 5: I think at the end now you know, in hindsight 2206 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 5: helped the movie. Like it wasn't like you don't remember 2207 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,320 Speaker 5: the movie for Paul Newman or Robert Redford. You know, 2208 01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:19,880 Speaker 5: you remember the movie for like what happened in the movie. 2209 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, and then the box office was like huge. It 2210 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,280 Speaker 10: was way bigger than any other Americans fult made in 2211 01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,519 Speaker 10: that con seventy five minutes. It actually became the first 2212 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:34,360 Speaker 10: summer blockbuster. Yep, that wasn't a time when big movies were. 2213 01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 4: Even released, absolutely true. 2214 01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:41,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, okaying, all right, thanks Sean. Do you 2215 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,400 Speaker 5: remember where you were the first time you saw Jaws? 2216 01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:45,320 Speaker 3: No, you don't know. 2217 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,240 Speaker 2: I really I was. I was on the cape. I 2218 01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,120 Speaker 2: just don't remember. I don't remember the specific problem movie. 2219 01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:54,920 Speaker 2: I probably like so many times, or Hyennus something, because 2220 01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:55,720 Speaker 2: that's where we used to go. 2221 01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 4: I really don't know if I've ever seen a theater either. 2222 01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:59,200 Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I kind of want to go next. 2223 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,360 Speaker 5: I was in the theater and it was packed, and 2224 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,360 Speaker 5: we sat in the very first row, and I was 2225 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,639 Speaker 5: a kid, you know, and like. 2226 01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,840 Speaker 3: When that head popped out of the boat, you. 2227 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,760 Speaker 8: Know, it comes out Friday, last Friday, August, and I'm 2228 01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,320 Speaker 8: gonna be tempted, and we all come in here if 2229 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:16,559 Speaker 8: it's a slow camp day. 2230 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:21,519 Speaker 2: Hello yourself, young fellow. Hello, Yeah, that guy that's Ben Gardner. Yeah, yeah, 2231 01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:24,320 Speaker 2: I didn't know that I was. I was fifty seven 2232 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,280 Speaker 2: years old when I found out that that was Ben. Yeah, 2233 01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:27,120 Speaker 2: I learned. 2234 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:28,960 Speaker 4: I learned that recently too, that that's theme. 2235 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:30,840 Speaker 2: I did not make the connection. It was the same guy. 2236 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's the same guy doing the I got 2237 01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,439 Speaker 8: their mothers down and doing the whole speech on the 2238 01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:36,479 Speaker 8: boat going on yep. 2239 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,559 Speaker 3: Uh, let's see, let's go to Atlanta. Raised on the line, 2240 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:40,960 Speaker 3: what's up? 2241 01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,439 Speaker 13: Ray Hey? 2242 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:49,280 Speaker 14: I yep hey piggedback on what you Wall was saying, Paul, 2243 01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,640 Speaker 14: and I agree with everything he's saying because it's not 2244 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:57,880 Speaker 14: about being uh pestimistic, you know, it's not about being 2245 01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,360 Speaker 14: a Debbie downer. But it's like, we have yet to 2246 01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,479 Speaker 14: see what they're gonna do, you know, because it's like 2247 01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:08,679 Speaker 14: it sounds good, you know, seeing the videos and seeing 2248 01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,680 Speaker 14: the practices and stuff like that, but it's like if 2249 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:16,200 Speaker 14: that no one's executing, then there's gonna be another terrible season, 2250 01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 14: you know. And we're all hype it's gonna be more 2251 01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:23,440 Speaker 14: greater than its gonna be better than last year. But 2252 01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:25,680 Speaker 14: they still have to put in the work, you know, 2253 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:30,400 Speaker 14: because we can, we can have a super team, a 2254 01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 14: super squad. But it's like, okay, now what you're gonna do? 2255 01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:37,160 Speaker 14: You know, And it's not about just being negative, it's 2256 01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:41,040 Speaker 14: about being realistic. Don't be delusional, you know, we're not. 2257 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:43,920 Speaker 14: You know, our goal is to not stuck. But it's 2258 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,160 Speaker 14: like we have to call it how it is a 2259 01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:49,640 Speaker 14: spade of spain, you know, and they just have to 2260 01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:56,719 Speaker 14: execute and we'll be somewhere clear to the playoffs and 2261 01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:01,400 Speaker 14: you know, but all that unrealistic stuff super Bowl, you know, playoffs, 2262 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,720 Speaker 14: we just got a see. Yeah, you know they have 2263 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,240 Speaker 14: to execute. So yeah, any givens Sunday. But let's let's 2264 01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 14: let's be real and I agree with everything y'all saying 2265 01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:12,040 Speaker 14: to y'all rocket. 2266 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,920 Speaker 4: All right, thanks rays Ray, I appreciate it. 2267 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,720 Speaker 3: That's why I kept bringing up empirical evidence, like you 2268 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,920 Speaker 3: can hope and think and supposedly and all that stuff, 2269 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:25,840 Speaker 3: but right to expect to get back to where that's. 2270 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 4: A week from tomorrow. It can stop being so much 2271 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,640 Speaker 4: just speaking about this Mike Fable Patriots and we have 2272 01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,000 Speaker 4: no idea about was start to get some. 2273 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:34,600 Speaker 2: Actual but that can actually change too, Like once the 2274 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,600 Speaker 2: season gets underway and you have a team that you 2275 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,040 Speaker 2: know had modest expectations and all of a sudden, wow, 2276 01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:44,479 Speaker 2: it's it's clicking. The offense that we've not seen, as 2277 01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,000 Speaker 2: Mike said, in the entire time that he's been here, 2278 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,320 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's scoring you know, thirty points 2279 01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:55,320 Speaker 2: a game. Well if that changes expectations, right, Like I 2280 01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,719 Speaker 2: didn't envision them having this kind of a high powered offense. 2281 01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:59,800 Speaker 2: I knew the defense would be better, but now the 2282 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:02,400 Speaker 2: defense is really good, and all of a sudden you 2283 01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,400 Speaker 2: go from being happy to win ten games to well, 2284 01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,720 Speaker 2: why are we going to stop at ten games? So 2285 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,320 Speaker 2: we can change? Expectations can change. But Fred's word about 2286 01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:15,080 Speaker 2: empirical what have you seen already to lead you to 2287 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,360 Speaker 2: believe that that kind of a jump on offense is 2288 01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,519 Speaker 2: going to happen? To me, there's only one thing that 2289 01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,240 Speaker 2: can possibly make that happen, and that's a meteoric rise 2290 01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,439 Speaker 2: by the quarterback. That's what happened in Houston two years ago, 2291 01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:30,400 Speaker 2: That's what happened in Washington last year. No reason why 2292 01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,160 Speaker 2: it can't happen in New England this year. 2293 01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:34,960 Speaker 4: I feel like the opposite has been happening the lastew years. 2294 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:37,640 Speaker 4: We have to adjust my expectations the other way, and 2295 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:39,160 Speaker 4: I you know, like I don't know, they might be 2296 01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,000 Speaker 4: around five hundred, and then you start to see it 2297 01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,800 Speaker 4: in September and you know that it's not going to 2298 01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:45,320 Speaker 4: go that way. 2299 01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,599 Speaker 2: But that's the fun of it. And that's another part 2300 01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,080 Speaker 2: of it. That and I've been trying hard not to 2301 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 2: do this, but like the optimism around and everybody keeps 2302 01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,439 Speaker 2: saying it right what they're going to do that they've 2303 01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,519 Speaker 2: brought in Vaybel and they have this excitement and this 2304 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,240 Speaker 2: is a lot of the stuff that we were talking 2305 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,200 Speaker 2: about last year before we actually saw it, Before the 2306 01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,040 Speaker 2: season actually got underway and they couldn't move the ball, 2307 01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,160 Speaker 2: there was a lot of talk about optimism and a 2308 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,320 Speaker 2: lot of talk heading into the season. I could I 2309 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,720 Speaker 2: eight nine wins a lot. Yeah, I'm not going to 2310 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,640 Speaker 2: call out all the different media guys that did it, 2311 01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,719 Speaker 2: but there were a lot of local media guys predicting 2312 01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:26,439 Speaker 2: eight nine to ten wins last year until they actually 2313 01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:29,360 Speaker 2: saw the team play, and then you're like, oh, I 2314 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:30,880 Speaker 2: don't think they're as good as I thought they were. 2315 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:31,120 Speaker 21: Right. 2316 01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,320 Speaker 8: It's like, if you can't have that kind of optimism 2317 01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,080 Speaker 8: when you get a new coach, then I think you're 2318 01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:35,519 Speaker 8: really in. 2319 01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:37,160 Speaker 4: A bad place. I think like some of it is 2320 01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,960 Speaker 4: just a function of and yes, the past history of 2321 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,080 Speaker 4: the Patriots and their success, that's a very high bar 2322 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,920 Speaker 4: of what success looks still looks like around here. 2323 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:49,800 Speaker 8: But you know, generally speaking, the expectations are what they 2324 01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:51,519 Speaker 8: are right now, What are they going to be in 2325 01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:52,320 Speaker 8: a month from right now? 2326 01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:53,559 Speaker 4: They might be a little bit different. 2327 01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:53,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2328 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:55,360 Speaker 4: We'll see how the injuries play out and all that. 2329 01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,200 Speaker 5: Some emails from last week, kind of following up on 2330 01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:01,559 Speaker 5: some things that we were talking about Joe and the 2331 01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:05,559 Speaker 5: darkness rights In. I was saying how I didn't think 2332 01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,080 Speaker 5: that the uniforms as they currently are that bad. I 2333 01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:09,880 Speaker 5: didn't like the blue on blue, but other than that 2334 01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:15,000 Speaker 5: they're fine. But Joe says, Fred, You're dead wrong about 2335 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,280 Speaker 5: the uniforms Blueberries aside. The twenty twenty uniform redesign is awful, 2336 01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 5: unprofessional and unbecoming of this franchise, easily a bottom five 2337 01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 5: uniform in the NFL, change asap. 2338 01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:29,640 Speaker 4: Do you feel that strongly about it? 2339 01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,720 Speaker 8: I don't feel quite strongly that that strongly about it, 2340 01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,240 Speaker 8: But I do feel very strongly about the uniforms that 2341 01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,519 Speaker 8: they wont Super Bowls, and that's what I feel strongly about, 2342 01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,280 Speaker 8: and I'd be open to a lot of different options. 2343 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,120 Speaker 8: I think that's great when teams can mix it up 2344 01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,120 Speaker 8: in that. I just my bottom line is that I 2345 01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,280 Speaker 8: think the Dynasty uniforms need to have a place in 2346 01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:47,839 Speaker 8: the rotation. 2347 01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:52,080 Speaker 5: Okay, Ali and Tennessee rights In, She said, I hired 2348 01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,960 Speaker 5: a technician to fix my Whirlpool washing machine. And I 2349 01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,120 Speaker 5: asked him, as a professional, what washing machine brand would 2350 01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:01,840 Speaker 5: you recommend? And I laughed and he instantly answered Speed Queen. 2351 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:04,880 Speaker 5: You should really get a Speed Queen affiliate link. I'm 2352 01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,120 Speaker 5: a new homeowner since the off season, Fred, what are 2353 01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:09,559 Speaker 5: your other tips or hot takes as it relates to 2354 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:09,920 Speaker 5: the home? 2355 01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:10,719 Speaker 3: I trust you. 2356 01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:13,400 Speaker 4: Well, I should do it, Tian right now. 2357 01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:17,040 Speaker 8: I saw a video on YouTube where they're going around 2358 01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:18,760 Speaker 8: asking car mechanics what kind of cars you buy? 2359 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,280 Speaker 4: And every single one of us is Toyota. 2360 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,720 Speaker 3: It's like it's the first every mechanics, I have a Lexus. 2361 01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:25,800 Speaker 5: It's the third one I've had, and it's not the 2362 01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,679 Speaker 5: high end one. I have one hundred and seventy six 2363 01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,559 Speaker 5: thousand miles on it. It runs like a piece shot 2364 01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:34,880 Speaker 5: no I know, but like all I've never had a problem. 2365 01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:36,240 Speaker 4: They are made so well. 2366 01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:41,560 Speaker 5: There's really good value in Toyota, which is Lexus than company. 2367 01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,840 Speaker 2: For everybody that I talk to in that business, it's 2368 01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:48,640 Speaker 2: Toyota Honda for you know, every day you know, and 2369 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,360 Speaker 2: if you want a little higher end, it's a Lexus Lexus. 2370 01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:55,160 Speaker 2: I've always wanted a Lexus SUV, but probably never going 2371 01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:59,720 Speaker 2: to have that, but Toyota and Honda's last forever they do. 2372 01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,439 Speaker 4: Yep, let's see uh. 2373 01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:09,760 Speaker 5: Sean writes in from Bolton in the UK. I love 2374 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,160 Speaker 5: the offseason shows. They have a nice mixture of team 2375 01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,360 Speaker 5: talk and over the stuff like soap and a rope 2376 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,360 Speaker 5: to bin collections. Looking at this season, I hear a 2377 01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:20,559 Speaker 5: lot of people going on about eleven wins and making 2378 01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:21,240 Speaker 5: the playoffs. 2379 01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:21,960 Speaker 4: Please stop. 2380 01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,040 Speaker 5: I see six to seven wins, but a big improvement 2381 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,000 Speaker 5: in how the team plays. 2382 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:27,559 Speaker 3: Don't forget. 2383 01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,200 Speaker 5: This is still a rebuild, but with this management team, 2384 01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,679 Speaker 5: we will get there. And congratulations to Evan and Beth 2385 01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,320 Speaker 5: on their wedding. Plus, how do I get hold of 2386 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,080 Speaker 5: one of the p U T shirts over here in 2387 01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:38,519 Speaker 5: the UK? 2388 01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,080 Speaker 4: Married your wife? 2389 01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,080 Speaker 3: And any update on the T shirts? This is gonna 2390 01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:47,000 Speaker 3: be a daily. 2391 01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:51,160 Speaker 4: Thing you have a meeting about. You have to meet about. 2392 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,240 Speaker 2: Because I have vacation. 2393 01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,920 Speaker 5: So this is such a thing that you need to 2394 01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:56,519 Speaker 5: have a meeting. 2395 01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,360 Speaker 4: Well, yes about it? 2396 01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:03,679 Speaker 3: Okay, in this meeting. Oh so the meeting isn't about 2397 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:04,200 Speaker 3: T shirts. 2398 01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:09,719 Speaker 5: It's not a T shirt me Okay, all right, sorry 2399 01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:10,200 Speaker 5: about that. 2400 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:19,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't heard anything about this. Well, I haven't 2401 01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:24,559 Speaker 2: seen my boss weeks. I was gone last week. He 2402 01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:26,599 Speaker 2: was here, I was he was gone the week before. 2403 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:29,559 Speaker 5: Mario writes in I've been listening to the Soap with 2404 01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,320 Speaker 5: a Slot Discussion for the better part of fifteen years, 2405 01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,880 Speaker 5: and i can't sit idly anymore. My wife introduced me 2406 01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,920 Speaker 5: to the below Amazon link for a Sissel soap bag 2407 01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,120 Speaker 5: where you simply throw the bar soap in the bag, 2408 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,200 Speaker 5: lather and then the soap gets super tiny. You just 2409 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,439 Speaker 5: throw another one in there. That's one hundred percent soap 2410 01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,680 Speaker 5: usage efficiency. I'm sad this settles a Soap with a 2411 01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:55,719 Speaker 5: Slot discussion, but happy Fred can sleep easy at night right. 2412 01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,400 Speaker 4: Now and now you have one. Yeah, thanks to Steve. 2413 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,519 Speaker 5: Steve for the Pats people saying an eight win season 2414 01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,879 Speaker 5: will be a disappointment, eight paid chips as a kid, 2415 01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,719 Speaker 5: eight will be a success if Drake looks good. Eleven 2416 01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,400 Speaker 5: wins in a playoff, Berth and I'll buy soap bags 2417 01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:13,880 Speaker 5: for the whole gang. You guys are the best, keep 2418 01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,679 Speaker 5: up the great work. So the natural Sisal soap bag 2419 01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:21,080 Speaker 5: is perfect. You can buy an Amazon No, that's a 2420 01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,320 Speaker 5: good solution. It is I'm not going to like, but 2421 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:27,920 Speaker 5: some people don't like to have your soap through another membrane. 2422 01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:32,800 Speaker 5: You want membrane, you want them, you want the soap. 2423 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,880 Speaker 4: You know you want to join the two soaps together, but. 2424 01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:37,639 Speaker 3: You don't want to have to like. 2425 01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:41,200 Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't like those bags? Like how soft are they? 2426 01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:41,840 Speaker 4: They look? 2427 01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:41,960 Speaker 20: Like? 2428 01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,720 Speaker 4: Course? Yeah, a little bit. 2429 01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:45,599 Speaker 3: Uh. 2430 01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:50,480 Speaker 2: Some minor news here. Smith, Trey Smith, the lone franchise 2431 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,640 Speaker 2: tagged player, has signed in the extension with Kansas. 2432 01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:54,479 Speaker 4: City paid guard. 2433 01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:56,880 Speaker 2: So they have the highest paid center and guard now 2434 01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,280 Speaker 2: in football. But seemed to be a wise use of 2435 01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,559 Speaker 2: resources by As I've said in the past and will 2436 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,639 Speaker 2: continue to say, the cap no longer matters. 2437 01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:06,439 Speaker 8: What was Tuney the highest pig guard when they when 2438 01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,600 Speaker 8: they paid him, was that deal obviously? 2439 01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:12,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was up there, yep, and they traded him. 2440 01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:13,080 Speaker 4: They traded that. 2441 01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:14,320 Speaker 2: They traded him to Chicago. 2442 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I didn't know if he became a 2443 01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:25,280 Speaker 4: free agent need But yeah, let's see Longino is annoyed. 2444 01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,120 Speaker 5: By that guy from LA. Man, that guy Christian from 2445 01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:30,960 Speaker 5: LA is really something. And it's crazy to think that 2446 01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:34,040 Speaker 5: there's many others with that mindset where now we're expecting 2447 01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,759 Speaker 5: super Bowls and going back to a dynasty because of coaching. 2448 01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,759 Speaker 5: In a few pieces, We've been horrible the last season 2449 01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,880 Speaker 5: since Brady left, and now we're rebuilding at the moment 2450 01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:45,519 Speaker 5: and have something to look forward to. Hopefully we can 2451 01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,879 Speaker 5: get back to relevancy and start winning. I think he's trolling, 2452 01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:52,200 Speaker 5: but still he's very triggering and needs to stop calling 2453 01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:52,560 Speaker 5: he is. 2454 01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:53,240 Speaker 2: He's good at it. 2455 01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:55,000 Speaker 4: Felder would love this guy in his shop. 2456 01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:57,280 Speaker 2: I give him credit because I think he's good at it. 2457 01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:59,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, just imagine them, like a season where Patriots make 2458 01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:01,680 Speaker 8: the play layoffs. You know, they get a playoff game, 2459 01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,880 Speaker 8: they're on the road, tough, tough game, down at the end, 2460 01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:06,120 Speaker 8: they lose in the last minute. 2461 01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:08,200 Speaker 4: We come in for the postgame show and we're like, wow, 2462 01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,559 Speaker 4: you know that sucked. That's a tough way to go out. 2463 01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,280 Speaker 2: But what a season, you know, like, you know, just 2464 01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:16,599 Speaker 2: that sucks. He's call it me like when they're an 2465 01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:18,559 Speaker 2: idiot if you think that was good, Like in twenty 2466 01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:22,000 Speaker 2: one when Mac Jones was the quarterback. Now you can 2467 01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:25,960 Speaker 2: have varying degrees of sort of enthusiasm and excitement for 2468 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:30,479 Speaker 2: the future. But who was saying that the twenty twenty 2469 01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:34,000 Speaker 2: one season with a rookie quarterback winning ten games was bad? 2470 01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,080 Speaker 2: Who was saying it was bad? That's the call that 2471 01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,479 Speaker 2: I got on the radio, is that would be bad, 2472 01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:43,920 Speaker 2: not good instead of great, like Christians saying it would 2473 01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,559 Speaker 2: be good but not a great season. The guy who 2474 01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:49,479 Speaker 2: called in on the sports Hub said it would be bad. 2475 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,639 Speaker 4: Right, differently, don't do it. 2476 01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:56,800 Speaker 2: So maybe you looked at it in all fairness here 2477 01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,240 Speaker 2: the way I did in twenty one, and I didn't 2478 01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:01,679 Speaker 2: think they could get to you to win games despite 2479 01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:07,160 Speaker 2: the quarterback, right, So I wasn't overly like way, do 2480 01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:08,400 Speaker 2: you see what happens next year? 2481 01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:10,600 Speaker 4: Well, they got smoke too in the finale. 2482 01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,000 Speaker 2: The right, and they got smoked by all the other 2483 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,639 Speaker 2: teams that they played that had a pulse that year 2484 01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:17,200 Speaker 2: that didn't have twenty seven guys on the COVID list. Right, 2485 01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, Baker Mayfield playing with a separated shoulder and 2486 01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,960 Speaker 2: the Titans coming here with like Deannest Johnson instead of 2487 01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,880 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry in the backfield. To know, there's a big 2488 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,080 Speaker 2: difference with what they faced. I didn't expect that to 2489 01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,360 Speaker 2: happen the next year, and it didn't, and it didn't 2490 01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,679 Speaker 2: happen again the following year. So you can be excited 2491 01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,960 Speaker 2: about it, you know, with tempered enthusiasm, because I'm not 2492 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,439 Speaker 2: sure that that's sustainable. But to say that it's bad 2493 01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,679 Speaker 2: that they won ten games, No, the twenty one season 2494 01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:46,679 Speaker 2: was a good season. They went they went to the playoffs, 2495 01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,000 Speaker 2: but probably wasn't a great year, but it was good, 2496 01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:49,280 Speaker 2: you know. 2497 01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,840 Speaker 8: To continue that postgame conversation, they probably continues along, all right, well, 2498 01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:55,320 Speaker 8: now they've got a second place contract, you know, second 2499 01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,200 Speaker 8: place schedule next year, and it's gonna get harder. Yes, 2500 01:51:58,240 --> 01:51:59,880 Speaker 8: they made some strides this year, but they got to 2501 01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:02,280 Speaker 8: go find the guy at edge or they got to 2502 01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:03,880 Speaker 8: go find the guy at receiver either, like. 2503 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,200 Speaker 2: The But what I thought building you know, again, this 2504 01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,439 Speaker 2: goes back to a whole bunch of team building things 2505 01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:13,080 Speaker 2: and why teams that tend to knock it out of 2506 01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,799 Speaker 2: the park and free agency in a year it's generally 2507 01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:17,880 Speaker 2: a one year bump and it goes back down because 2508 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:22,800 Speaker 2: all these owners are very similar and Robert Craft said 2509 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,439 Speaker 2: it at the time that we're not going to be 2510 01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,920 Speaker 2: able to do that every year. And he's not any 2511 01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,920 Speaker 2: different than every other guy in that league. So you're 2512 01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:33,599 Speaker 2: going to go out and spend two hundred and fifty 2513 01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:36,760 Speaker 2: million dollars in guaranteed contracts one offseason. You're probably not 2514 01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,599 Speaker 2: going to do that again the next year. That's why 2515 01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:42,920 Speaker 2: it goes up and down, because they needed to fill 2516 01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,720 Speaker 2: a lot of holes, just like they need to fill 2517 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,200 Speaker 2: a lot of holes this year. They've done a lot 2518 01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:49,760 Speaker 2: of that. They're gonna need to do it again next 2519 01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:51,400 Speaker 2: year if you want to continue to go on. The 2520 01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:53,160 Speaker 2: rise goes back to. 2521 01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:54,800 Speaker 8: A point I wanted to make earlier that I didn't. 2522 01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:56,680 Speaker 8: It was just that there's a real need for some 2523 01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,360 Speaker 8: young players. We talked a lot about the offensive line 2524 01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,439 Speaker 8: Kadan Wallas, young players who haven't done anything yet that 2525 01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,040 Speaker 8: still maybe have some promise to step up and build 2526 01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:05,759 Speaker 8: some of the depth. 2527 01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:07,880 Speaker 4: They can't rebuild the whole team. 2528 01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,840 Speaker 8: They need some of those guys from the last couple 2529 01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,519 Speaker 8: draft classes that haven't done much yet to step up 2530 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,800 Speaker 8: and provide some of that depth. Maybe some of those 2531 01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,479 Speaker 8: guys are going to get thrust into bigger roles because 2532 01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,479 Speaker 8: of injuries or whatever. But that to me is the 2533 01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,880 Speaker 8: bit a big wild card for this camp. Dude, does 2534 01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:23,880 Speaker 8: anybody rise up? I connected to what I said to you, 2535 01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,640 Speaker 8: Fred about your offensive line thing. You know, it's a 2536 01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,880 Speaker 8: good sign if you know a City Sow or a 2537 01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:31,280 Speaker 8: Kayden Wallace or a Leyden Robinson or you know my 2538 01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:33,200 Speaker 8: guy Jalen Poll if it was some of those guys 2539 01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,360 Speaker 8: that disappointing didn't quite get over the hump last year 2540 01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,040 Speaker 8: can come and start to contribute. Then you feel like, 2541 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:39,880 Speaker 8: well we have a little bit of a core, a 2542 01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:43,000 Speaker 8: young corps that gives you some room to make mistakes 2543 01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,000 Speaker 8: in the draft and not have to well, we got 2544 01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,280 Speaker 8: to fill everything now, you know that's what's hard for 2545 01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:47,880 Speaker 8: me right now. 2546 01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:49,640 Speaker 4: Find some of those young guys to step up. 2547 01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:54,120 Speaker 5: Mike and Florida writes in you mentioned it today or recently, 2548 01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,439 Speaker 5: but I haven't heard anything lately. What's going on with 2549 01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,320 Speaker 5: our new defensive coordinator? I heard he's very highly regarded, 2550 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:00,160 Speaker 5: but also. 2551 01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,000 Speaker 3: So he's got some illness. 2552 01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:03,320 Speaker 5: Can you tell us about him and some of the 2553 01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:06,160 Speaker 5: other new defensive coaches and give a health update on 2554 01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,960 Speaker 5: the new DC? Well, I do hear that he will 2555 01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:12,799 Speaker 5: be back for training camp. He's not gonna be running sprints, 2556 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:14,639 Speaker 5: but he will be here. 2557 01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:15,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good news. 2558 01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,599 Speaker 8: I mean, clearly has a big connection with Mike Frabele. 2559 01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:20,759 Speaker 8: You've seen probably the clips now where he talks about 2560 01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:24,120 Speaker 8: Mike Frable. Personal relationship, big reason why he's here as 2561 01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:27,880 Speaker 8: much as an opportunity to being defensive coordinator. Had a 2562 01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:29,320 Speaker 8: tough year, I mean, I don't want to say had 2563 01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:31,479 Speaker 8: a challenging year in Detroit last year, had talent, a 2564 01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:32,360 Speaker 8: lot of injuries. 2565 01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,839 Speaker 4: But he's got a little bit of cross section experience 2566 01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:38,160 Speaker 4: in some different systems as well, and he's a big 2567 01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:41,080 Speaker 4: part of wal why I'm excited. I hear, I hear. 2568 01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:42,040 Speaker 4: He's a good teacher. 2569 01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,120 Speaker 3: He's a good coach. 2570 01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,080 Speaker 5: Like I don't know how as a coordinator he is, 2571 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:48,720 Speaker 5: but like he's a good coach. 2572 01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,280 Speaker 3: People who he's coached that you know he teaches well, 2573 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:53,480 Speaker 3: I learned a lot from him. 2574 01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:57,400 Speaker 5: So that's you know, you got Christian Barmer still relatively young, 2575 01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,080 Speaker 5: ke On White's still relatively young. 2576 01:54:59,120 --> 01:54:59,960 Speaker 4: They have a lot to learn. 2577 01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's one of the it's one of the handful 2578 01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:05,360 Speaker 8: of unknown elements from the spring, something we didn't really 2579 01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:07,440 Speaker 8: get to see at all. I mean, it's and it's 2580 01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:09,840 Speaker 8: probably the biggest piece that we haven't seen yet is 2581 01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:10,960 Speaker 8: the defensive court. 2582 01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:13,480 Speaker 2: And I think it is good news if Fred is 2583 01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:18,120 Speaker 2: right and Fred's intel is accurate, because I think that 2584 01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:21,839 Speaker 2: that's been an underrated problem with some of the coaching 2585 01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:23,680 Speaker 2: issues that they've had in the recent past. You know, 2586 01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:26,760 Speaker 2: the year that Adrian klem was was you know, how 2587 01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:28,680 Speaker 2: to leave the team for a while when Bill O'Brien's 2588 01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,320 Speaker 2: running the intil it's not an ideal situation to lose 2589 01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:35,000 Speaker 2: your coordinator or even if he's there, but you're doing 2590 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:38,920 Speaker 2: it on zoom calls and whatnot. You know, some guys 2591 01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:42,720 Speaker 2: have a hard time learning that way. So the best 2592 01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,760 Speaker 2: case scenario, obviously for Terrell Williams, first and foremost is 2593 01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:50,760 Speaker 2: personal health, but the best situation for the entire defense 2594 01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:52,720 Speaker 2: would be to have him here full time. As far 2595 01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:54,800 Speaker 2: as what he is as a coach, I'm not gonna lie. 2596 01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:56,760 Speaker 2: I never heard the name until we hired him as 2597 01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:59,480 Speaker 2: the offense the defensive coordinator, I never heard of him, 2598 01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,080 Speaker 2: so I don't know what he is as a coach. 2599 01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:03,800 Speaker 4: Mark in Connecticut, what's up? Mark? 2600 01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. As always, I 2601 01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:08,000 Speaker 13: appreciate it. 2602 01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:10,080 Speaker 10: Well, Hi, I don't know if you guys have talked 2603 01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:14,480 Speaker 10: about this, but Traveon Henderson I believe is still unsigned, 2604 01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,520 Speaker 10: and I can't believe that Mike Brabel would want to 2605 01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:22,360 Speaker 10: go into training camp, you know, with a distraction like 2606 01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:24,640 Speaker 10: of that. I'm not sure what's going on with that, 2607 01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:26,400 Speaker 10: but I know a lot of the second round picks 2608 01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,120 Speaker 10: are not signed because of guaranteed money and everything. Yep, 2609 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,800 Speaker 10: but I just wanted to get your guys to take Yeah. 2610 01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean thirty out of the thirty two are run signed. Yeah, 2611 01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,240 Speaker 3: you definitely want to get that done. But I wouldn't. 2612 01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:38,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't get too concerned about it. You know, this 2613 01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:39,480 Speaker 3: happens a lot. 2614 01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:43,040 Speaker 2: You know, unless he's not here. Well, yeah, if he's 2615 01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,000 Speaker 2: not here at the start of camp, I agree with Mark, 2616 01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:45,960 Speaker 2: that's not ideal. 2617 01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,880 Speaker 5: But your guy Remandre will step up. You said he's 2618 01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:49,760 Speaker 5: going to have a better year. 2619 01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:53,000 Speaker 2: No, I know, but you want, Mike say, I think 2620 01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:57,000 Speaker 2: is important is to have some young guys emerge into rules. Sure, 2621 01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,720 Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily I know that both running backs, 2622 01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:01,320 Speaker 2: I don't see them playing in the same position. I've 2623 01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:03,400 Speaker 2: said this a lot, a lot. I think he's more 2624 01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:06,120 Speaker 2: of the pass catching type in the change of pace 2625 01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:09,320 Speaker 2: running back reminder, Stevenson is the every dollar back. But 2626 01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:10,320 Speaker 2: you need him. 2627 01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:13,080 Speaker 5: Here, I agree, and he needs to be here for 2628 01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:14,960 Speaker 5: his own development. But of all the things to be 2629 01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:15,440 Speaker 5: worried about. 2630 01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,720 Speaker 4: I'm not that worried about that. It's part of it. 2631 01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:20,640 Speaker 4: I mean, it's becoming an interesting league issue. I mean 2632 01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:21,760 Speaker 4: that I was. 2633 01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,600 Speaker 8: I wasn't a couple of weeks ago, but you know, 2634 01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:26,760 Speaker 8: now it's it's starting to develop into a thing. I 2635 01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:29,839 Speaker 8: think it's less about specifically Trevian Henderson and the Patriots. 2636 01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,200 Speaker 2: It's more about the second round pick for the Chargers 2637 01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:35,200 Speaker 2: is now officially a holdout. He's one of the thirty 2638 01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:39,160 Speaker 2: that second round picks that are unsigned today. 2639 01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,560 Speaker 3: If he's not here Friday, he's a holdout, right. 2640 01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:45,080 Speaker 2: Well, right for the Patriots. Yeah, yeah, I think that's 2641 01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:48,480 Speaker 2: Friday is the rookie reporting day, right, Yeah. I mean 2642 01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,720 Speaker 2: even if you want to say next Wednesday, you know, 2643 01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:54,520 Speaker 2: the official start of camp, if he's not here. Yeah, 2644 01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:56,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know how you could just say that 2645 01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,520 Speaker 2: that's that's no problem, you know. 2646 01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:00,360 Speaker 5: He the caller said, you know, I don't don't want 2647 01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,160 Speaker 5: that to be a distraction. Do you think it'll be 2648 01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:03,520 Speaker 5: a distraction if he's not here? 2649 01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,760 Speaker 8: I know, I agree with I don't think of any 2650 01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,560 Speaker 8: rookie at any position I want him here as much. 2651 01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:13,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely bad. First and foremost for Trevon Henderson into a 2652 01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,080 Speaker 2: much lesser extent the offense. But I don't think it'll 2653 01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:17,680 Speaker 2: be a distraction. 2654 01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:19,760 Speaker 8: And it's also enough again that you can point to 2655 01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:21,520 Speaker 8: league wide this is an issue. 2656 01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well they don't have that's not the 2657 01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:26,200 Speaker 2: same thing. 2658 01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:28,120 Speaker 3: I know, I know they don't have to be. 2659 01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:29,640 Speaker 2: He's got to be under No, but he's got to 2660 01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:32,800 Speaker 2: be under contract to be to well, he doesn't have 2661 01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:35,240 Speaker 2: to be, but my guess is he will want to 2662 01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:37,720 Speaker 2: be under contract. If you get hurt, then you're really screwed. 2663 01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,240 Speaker 2: My guess is it'll get done. This is going to 2664 01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:45,880 Speaker 2: be something with thirty guys involved. Like if it was 2665 01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,200 Speaker 2: one or two guys that were holding out, I'd be worried. 2666 01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:50,960 Speaker 2: But thirty guys, they're all waiting for the same thing. 2667 01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:53,240 Speaker 4: My guess we'll figure out a work around. 2668 01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:55,080 Speaker 2: In general, I think Fred will be right. Here's the fall, 2669 01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:56,680 Speaker 2: all right, that's one of those. 2670 01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,160 Speaker 4: It'll be fine, It'll be fine. 2671 01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:01,680 Speaker 3: All right. That's it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. 2672 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 3: Is Evan going to do a cash twenty two this. 2673 01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:04,640 Speaker 2: Week or no? 2674 01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:05,360 Speaker 4: No. 2675 01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,560 Speaker 2: I believe that the edict was you will not be 2676 01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:08,920 Speaker 2: doing it. 2677 01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:10,200 Speaker 4: I would put it past. 2678 01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:12,240 Speaker 2: I know he would know, he'll try. 2679 01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:15,520 Speaker 3: It's all right, but moving back on Thursday. 2680 01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:20,320 Speaker 4: See you then, Hey, this is deuced. Thanks for tuning 2681 01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:20,840 Speaker 4: into the show. 2682 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:21,720 Speaker 2: If you really want to. 2683 01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,160 Speaker 8: Help us, make like us wherever you get your podcasts 2684 01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,040 Speaker 8: like Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Also make sure you follow 2685 01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:29,040 Speaker 8: us on the New England Patriots YouTube channel to see 2686 01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:30,760 Speaker 8: this show and everything else that we do here at 2687 01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:31,320 Speaker 8: the Patriots. 2688 01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:32,000 Speaker 4: Thanks a lot,