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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Titans Amian Coachmac Podcast, presented by Farm

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Speaker 1: since nineteen forty seven. Hi everybody, I'm Amy Wells, so

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Speaker 1: happy to have you here on the Titans Amy and

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Speaker 1: Coachmac podcast. Coach Mac of course, is also here Mac.

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Speaker 1: How you doing done good? The Steelers week, No, this

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Speaker 1: is a it's always a special time, especially if the

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Speaker 1: Titans goes all the way back to the AFC Central.

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Speaker 1: Two very very similar franchises in the fact that they are,

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Speaker 1: you know, very well run franchises, very solid and stable

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Speaker 1: franchises as far as ownership and coaching staffs, and plus

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Speaker 1: it's they're two very similar play very similar brands of football.

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Speaker 1: They're very physical teams. This is always been all the

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Speaker 1: Steeler games I've ever been involved with on the coaching

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Speaker 1: side of it, have always been extremely extremely physical and

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Speaker 1: most of the time, Amy, they've been very significant because

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Speaker 1: in the FC Central, the Titans and the Steelers, we're

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Speaker 1: you know, we're fighting for positioning, you know, along with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. At the time, I mean, it was a

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Speaker 1: it was a very very real football division. And now

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Speaker 1: you know the way that the divisions are different. Still,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Titans find themselves jockeying for positions

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Speaker 1: at this time of year for the playoffs. So this

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Speaker 1: is another one. This will be real, this will be

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Speaker 1: live and in color. There's something different about Steelers Week,

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Speaker 1: especially when it comes in December when these games matter

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Speaker 1: so much. There's just a different vibe. Mac, right, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what to expect. I mean, it's it's like

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Speaker 1: two heavyweight fighters, you know, getting ready and they both

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Speaker 1: know that they're both going to have to take some

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Speaker 1: punches and they're going to have to deliver some punches.

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Speaker 1: This is this is this is never real pretty football

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Speaker 1: when these two teams play. This is down, dirty, gritty football,

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Speaker 1: and just get ready for that. And you've got to

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Speaker 1: have a mindset going in all week to get ready

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Speaker 1: for it. And so that's why it feels different. Have

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Speaker 1: you had Renegade stuck in your head all week? Because

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Speaker 1: I have. It's my brain right now. It's been it's

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Speaker 1: been playing, it's been playing. But guess what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear it again, so just get used to it. I

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Speaker 1: think that was the point. Before we move on to

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, I want to talk about the Titans. They

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Speaker 1: are coming off of a win against the Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 1: that makes them nine and four, now still leading the division,

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Speaker 1: still the number two seed in the AFC MAC. The

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Speaker 1: Titans shut out the Jacks. They didn't just beat them,

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Speaker 1: they shut them out. The jag scored no points. We

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Speaker 1: know that's hard to do in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: We know how incredibly rare shutouts are. The Titans hadn't

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Speaker 1: done it at Nissan Stadium since two thousand. They hadn't

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Speaker 1: so it's really hard to come by. Why is it

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Speaker 1: really are, and plus the kickers are so good in

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Speaker 1: the league. Now you basically have to us a fifty

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Speaker 1: it's in within most NFL kickers range. So even if

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Speaker 1: get to. I mean, it was amazing how much the

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a complete runaway. But that has something to

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Speaker 1: So it was it was a big accomplishment, and especially

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Speaker 1: as you say, coming off of the bye week, and

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Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, you know, on this podcast last week,

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Speaker 1: to get our dudes back. Well, we saw some dudes back.

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Speaker 1: You and I watched practice every every day that they practice.

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Speaker 1: But what they accomplished was big. You know, shutouts are big,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, don't think we saw it at

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Speaker 1: they were all really happy. Mac, your defensive coach, what

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Speaker 1: also did coverage wise, we had four interceptions in that game.

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Speaker 1: Two of those interceptions came from just completely fooling the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They completely fooled him and they were bogging or disguising

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Speaker 1: to create a takeaway is even more special. That's what

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Speaker 1: they really did well. They really did well of formulating

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Speaker 1: then when we had a chance to catch the ball,

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Speaker 1: we caught it. And that's big the Titans obviously winning

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Speaker 1: big thing amy because he's what you know in the

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest moments of this football game was

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Speaker 1: this call right here. Lawrence has time, throws hide, makes

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Speaker 1: of six. That's more than help from Roberson. That was

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Speaker 1: an amazing Ford over rooster. Then right in the middle

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Speaker 1: now you have. That's what it looks like. Now, coach Mac,

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Speaker 1: what the heck is forward over rooster? It's pretty self explanatory.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you grew up in Texas, you

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Speaker 1: don't you know exactly. I had so many people hit

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Speaker 1: And if you've got everybody in Texas drives forward pickups

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Speaker 1: The Ford wins every time, and that and that's and

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Speaker 1: that's what happened in that ball game. Anytime you get

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Speaker 1: that's a real thing that people say, like, that's a

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Speaker 1: real son. Make these things up. I for sure think

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Speaker 1: that came out of my mouth so quick because you know,

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Speaker 1: Mike Keith would oh, why that hit? I said, Ford

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Speaker 1: over rooster. I had never heard you say that before.

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Speaker 1: I actually consulted Keith Bullock, who has been in meeting

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Speaker 1: you say that before. He's heard me say a lot

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Speaker 1: of other things. He's hurt, he has, indeed, and he

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Speaker 1: said that he's got a notebook full of the greatest hits.

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Speaker 1: They used to write them down in the meeting rooms

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Speaker 1: when my players would when I would say it, they

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Speaker 1: would write them down. At the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: they said Coach Mac anything to add to this. They

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Speaker 1: all kept their notebooks. Yeah, we're trying to find to copy.

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Speaker 1: Keith Bullock is on it. We are trying to find

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Speaker 1: someone who has their notebook full of Coach Mac sayings. Well,

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Speaker 1: some of them probably need to run through the censor

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Speaker 1: first before he starts publishing them. Well, I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: get my hands on it. Well, and I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I said all of them, I believe that you did,

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Speaker 1: but that one might be an all timer. And Mike

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Speaker 1: Keith props to him. He played it off so well

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Speaker 1: because he stopped and went, wait, what did you just say?

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Speaker 1: It was perfect? It was perfect? And I explained it

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Speaker 1: for explaining that, we get it. I'm going to use that.

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Speaker 1: I guess. I don't think about the general movement patterns

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Speaker 1: around that, to see a neighbor who has chickens. What

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Speaker 1: a rooster panned. Yeah, I don't know anything about that rooster,

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Speaker 1: you were doing those pushups in that restroom that you

427
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: would end up with a statue there? No way, no,

428
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, Coach, when you were talking, you know, I

429
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: started to smile a little bit. I'm gonna tell you

430
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: what came to mind. All right, let's hear it. You

431
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: know how we were preparing for each team every week. Well,

432
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 1: this particular week, we were trying to do something different

433
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: in our goal line offense. Your hand coach, my head

434
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: coach walked into the defensive line meeting room and he

435
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: got this defensive lineman big tid. He wanted him to

436
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: play fullback. He's gonna lead to charge right up the

437
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 1: middle where we got on one yard line. I know

438
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: where this is going. I said, Oh my goodness, I said, Dave, Dave,

439
00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: he can't do it. No, you can't do Your exact

440
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 1: words were, Dave, he can't stay on side with the

441
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: with the count. He can't. Hell, they can't do it.

442
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Oh my goodness. But you know the coach

443
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, we're gonna do it. The situation came up.

444
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: Stephen Salima went into the game and the situation was right.

445
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: He called the play. He went to the wrong direction

446
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 1: and head coach putt both hands on his head and

447
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: he started screaming. And Dave looked at me and I

448
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: walked away. You know, I remember that, like he was. Yes,

449
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: you had begged me all week, coach, please don't let

450
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: him do it. Just please tell him not to do it.

451
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 1: The guy can't do it. He can't do it. He

452
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: was even gonna jump offsides or and you did say

453
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: or he'll go the wrong way. And we practiced all

454
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: week and they went in. We're birth sitting there just

455
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: watching that play, and all of a sudden, all of

456
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: a sudden, the place called on the quarterback, Jay Plumber

457
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: opens to the left and our full back goes to

458
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: the right and Jake standing there, and all of a sudden,

459
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: he and the running back collide and they both get killed.

460
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: And head coach looked at me. It put his head

461
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: hand in the heads looked at me. I looked at you,

462
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: and you just walked away. And you know what, we

463
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: shouldn't listened to you from the start. I mean I

464
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: did listen to you, but I couldn't trumpet, couldn't. I

465
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: couldn't trumpet, couldn't trump That was so that was. That

466
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: was one of those where we would go into the

467
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: office afterwards and go, what in the world, I mean,

468
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: what the world? What the world? Anyway, let's forward a

469
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: little bit. Now you are taking as a first round pick.

470
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: The push ups worked because you're taking as a first

471
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: round pick by the Pittsburgh Steelers. And if you were

472
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: like I was, I grew up in West Texas, you

473
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: grew up in East Texas. You had no idea, you

474
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: had no idea where Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania was. You didn't know,

475
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: you had no idea where it was. And so the

476
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: Steelers pick you number one, and they're not good. People

477
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: don't understand that. Back then, the Steelers were not a

478
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: good franchise. They really were bad. They were very bad.

479
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: They were very bad. Tell the story about because you

480
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: did you held out, You held out, you held out

481
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: for a little while. Tell us what happened when you

482
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: first showed up and without any prerequisite or any hello,

483
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: how are you doing, Chuck Nolan, say anything, put on

484
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: full pads and went out to the field. And then

485
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: tell us what happened then, George Latrobe, Yes, when I

486
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: came up to sign my contract at Pittsburgh, Dan Ruey

487
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: at the time, from downtown Pittsburgh drove me to Latrobe,

488
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: which was about thirty miles or so away, and he

489
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: told me right to the equipment room, and our equipment

490
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: manager gave me the uniform, pants, helmet, jersey, and solar pads.

491
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: Walked me right down to the football field. Now this

492
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: was during lunchtime, and during lunchtime in two days, everybody

493
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: has done right. And when I walked down there and

494
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: I met my defensive line coach down there, and it

495
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: was the offensive line coach and he had all the

496
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: offensive linement down there and they kind of pissed because

497
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: this is this is the knaptime. This is the naptime. Kie,

498
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: here I am in the nap. Yeah, I'm coming into

499
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: that nap. And I lined up on my left side,

500
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: and I lined up against the right tackle, and I

501
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: went right tackle, right guard, center, left guard tackle, and

502
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: I was winning. I want all of those WHOA that's awesome.

503
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: And I came came back starting all over. I was

504
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: starting on the second team now, and the guy had

505
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: been looking and seeing what was happening, and he jumped

506
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: me and nipped me right down, and that drill was over,

507
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: and I was glad that was over. But then David,

508
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: you know, the defensive line coach, took me down to

509
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: another portion of the field and said, we're gonna see

510
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: what kind of shape you didn't see what you've been doing.

511
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: And I had lied to him that hadn't been working out.

512
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: And they had these things they call the gases. Yes,

513
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, you'd run across. It was fifty yards across.

514
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: The fifth over and back over and back was one

515
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: and you had to do four of those. And when

516
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: I was going over and I came back and I

517
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: was still, I started to breathe pretty good after one,

518
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: and there was this guy, a little kid over there

519
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: with his dad. Come on, number one draft, Come on,

520
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: number one draft, Charus, you can do better than that. Yeah,

521
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: kid probably got eight to ninety. And I was looking

522
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: at this kid and I was getting I was getting

523
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: winded on my second time I'm around, and I'm thinking

524
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: I got to get rid of this boy. It took

525
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: everything within me not to run over that kid because

526
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: he's standing right in front of me. I was getting

527
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: kissed by the moment. Really really upset Coach McGinnis. This

528
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: is this is one of the one of the many

529
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: times so good. Somebody has taken good care of me.

530
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: Because if I if I had done what today nothing

531
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: to that kid when I wanted to do, my crew

532
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: never would have started. Boy Amy, I told you that

533
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: when we got Joe Green on, this is gonna be

534
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: something unlike any other because these are kind of conversations

535
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: we used to have all the time. This is so great.

536
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the this is the

537
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: true NFL, and people don't even understand Joe. Let's let's

538
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: fast forward now to when you guys started rolling a

539
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: little bit and you were the cornerstone of it. I'll

540
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: say it. You've never said it. I will say it.

541
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: You were the cornerstone of that. But you and mister Rooney,

542
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: aren't Rooney had a real close relationship. Yes, sir, tell

543
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: me about the man that they that they so reverently

544
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: called the Chief. Tell me about that relationship that you developed,

545
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: not only with him, but with his entire family that

546
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: has really lasted until this day. Oh. Absolutely. The day

547
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: I signed, he gave me one of his big cigars.

548
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: Have a cigar, my boy, and I took that and

549
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: I had it. I still had it until it really

550
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: just crumbled away not too long ago. Wow. But he

551
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: was the guy. He knew every player, He knew them

552
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: by the first name, regardless of whether it was someone

553
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: that had been there for five or ten years or

554
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: I was a new player. And he would just come

555
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: through the locker room and just speak to everybody. And

556
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: he just he told me one day, he said, you know, so,

557
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to see these kids from from California and

558
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Florida and Texas like where you are come through when

559
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: that snow hits. I want to see how well and

560
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: like to play football. Yeah. Man, was he was special.

561
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: You were special. And the whole family still reveres you.

562
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: You're revered in Pittsburgh, and let's just let's just get

563
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: that out there. Joe and you and I have talked before,

564
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: and you said that the thing really started to turn

565
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, you guys started getting more

566
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: more and more players in there. But you you said,

567
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, Coach, the thing that really started turning us

568
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: is when we got Franco in there, and all of

569
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, then the offense had the same type of

570
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: mentality that our defense we were putting together did. And

571
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: I used to love when when when Terry Bradshaw or

572
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Franco would come visit, you would come visit you there

573
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Talk a little bit about that relationship. Oh

574
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: so special, so special. You know, we were just another

575
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: team on the schedule before Franco came. And you know

576
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: the amazing thing about Franco, you know, the Steelers had

577
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: a history of bad number one draft choices, you know,

578
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: prior to to me going there. When Franco came in team,

579
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: that's when the offense goes against the defense, and Franco

580
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: would come up to the line, stop, go to the left,

581
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: go to the right, stop and look and we look

582
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: at him and said, what is he doing? What is

583
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: he doing? And then we'd go back to the hub.

584
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: He'd take off and run to the end zone. So,

585
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: oh boy, we got another dud. And it was his

586
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: This was still his rookie year. We played a preseason

587
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: game in Atlanta and Franco comes in the game. He

588
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: wasn't starting. It was probably somewhere around it. In the

589
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: middle of the second quarter, early third quarter. He did

590
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: the same thing, go to the left, to the right,

591
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: and then he took off and he ran seventy five

592
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: yards to the gold line. And I said, oh shoot,

593
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: we got one. And you know what I thought. I

594
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: beat into the gold line. And you know that that

595
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: was the time when things started to change for Pittsburgh.

596
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: The history of it is is that four Super Bowls

597
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: later and one of the most dominant periods ever in

598
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: the history of the National Football League. But when the

599
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: genesis of the start of that and you talk about

600
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: you chase him to the goal line, Take us through, Joe,

601
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 1: because you've told me this story before. Where you were,

602
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: what you were doing when the immaculate reception took place?

603
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Take us through there. Oh my goodness, that was do

604
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: you know that play was voted to number one play

605
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: in the hundred year history of the National Football as

606
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: well as well it should Yeah, yeah, and you know

607
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: it was a It was a tough ball game. We

608
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: were leading the Raiders sixth to nothing. Late in the

609
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Kenneth Stabler came in. Did you guys knock

610
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: the starter out? No, we didn't. He just wasn't you know.

611
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: They had to score in the employments. They brought Kenny in. Okay,

612
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: this was late in the fourth quarter and we had

613
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: a day. We had one of those blitzers on and

614
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: the outside of Russia didn't contain course, and Kenny stumbled

615
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: for about forty five yards for a touchdown put them

616
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: ahead seven to six. We get the ball inside of

617
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: a minute to play in the fourth quarter, and we

618
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: get down to the to the last play and I'm

619
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: on the sideline and I'm standing next to a defensive

620
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: back for US. John Rousing called him Dirty John, and

621
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: I said, John, John, this is such a miraculous season

622
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: that we had. We had worn more than ten ball

623
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: games that you at least ten, I think, and that

624
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: was something special for Pittsburgh. And I said, it cannot

625
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: end this way and that's when I saw Franco. It

626
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: was fourth and ten with about eighteen seconds or something

627
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: like that, and Terri scrambled around and he was about

628
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: to get hit through the all the way towards Frenchie.

629
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: I think, yes, Frenchie, and the ball ricochet offered Jack's

630
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: Talum's shoulder, bounced right. It looked like it was coming

631
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: right in my direction, but it fell short right there

632
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: when Franco was running down the sideline, and he picked

633
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: it up and took off running like Franco always does.

634
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: And I think, I tell him all the time, I

635
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: beat him to the enzone. That was such a such

636
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: a miraculous play for us in many many ways. It changed.

637
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: That play really set the tempo for US to win

638
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: four Super Bowls in the next six years. It absolutely did, Joe,

639
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, people that don't really know

640
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: just think it's just a play in time, But really

641
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: that was the jump start to the dynasty. And you

642
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: think you had been building up to that, and You've

643
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: told me that story so many times, and of course

644
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like you. I love the history of

645
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: the National Football League, but that's historic, it really is.

646
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: But I love the fact that you. You're a great storyteller, Joe,

647
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: because you wore the fact that you that you that

648
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: you beat him into the end zone. And you also

649
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: prefaced it by saying you were running across the field

650
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: and nearly ran over a kid too. And so let's

651
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: talk about another kid. Let's talk about the kid in

652
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: the Coca Cola commercial. Tell us how that went around, Joe, Oh,

653
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: my goodness. You know, we played cash for for most

654
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: of the day and then when we practice, you know,

655
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: I have to have to go through the drinking the coke.

656
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: And I'm such a nerd that I swallowed the coke.

657
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: They had a kid and for me to spit the

658
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: coke out to dump it. I said, well, I'm not

659
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: supposed to do that. I'm this I'm supposed to like it.

660
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to spit it out. So I drank it.

661
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: And then when they said okay, well let's take this thing,

662
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: let's roll it. And when we started to shoot and

663
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: I opened my mouth to say the lines, a big

664
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: birth came. I said, my goodness, this is I didn't

665
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: think I was good an opportunity to finish it, but

666
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: there wasn't fire me right away. Oh no, Tommy, Uh,

667
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: was a good kid. We gave him a jersey and

668
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: we did play cats. And I think at that time

669
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: Tommy was probably ten years old, and uh, I've seen

670
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: Tommy as a grown man forty one. That's amazing. Joe.

671
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: We're talking about an iconic thing for the league. That's

672
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: an iconic You talk about number one. That was a

673
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: number one commercial that was that that was iconic and

674
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: it really was. And you know what something is. And

675
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: you've told me this before, and you know we're good

676
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: enough friends, and that you really that really was truly

677
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: your persona, you know, off the field, your persona on

678
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: the field. Everybody knows. I mean, you were just a

679
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: fierce competitor to the end. But that I mean, and

680
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: I can say this to all our listeners now, you know,

681
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: I know Joe Green as well as I know anybody,

682
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: and and and and as and as big and ferocious

683
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: as he was on the field, he's got a bigger heart.

684
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: And I think that's why that commercial touched everybody and

685
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: it still does to this day. Yeah, the backstory is

686
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: if knowing you had to drink about twelve to fifteen

687
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: cokes before he started, it's the best part of it. Yeah.

688
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: The best part of it, DA it's coaches. It's amazing. Man.

689
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: We got our bus kicked on Sunday a lot out

690
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: there and Arizona, but it was there was some fun times.

691
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Do you remember one game we were playing. We had

692
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: this new defensive back that we had gotten from Tampa,

693
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: and he was out there and bad things about yes,

694
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: our secondary when they were having a hard time, Yes,

695
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: I do. And they were coming to the sideline telling

696
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: you and me, this guy is cursing us out, you know,

697
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: and and I doing the times when the office was

698
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: out there, talk to my said, man, you know you

699
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: can't do that. And we all at that together. We

700
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: got to support one another. He said, okay, okay, okay.

701
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: You know. They go back out there, and the next

702
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: time we had a change over the secondary guys come

703
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: back in time. He's still doing the coach. He's custom out,

704
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: he's custom us out. I called him over and he came,

705
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: ain't scared of you, Joe, ain't scared of you, and

706
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: took our run and I said, goodness, but in the world,

707
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything to him. I just told me

708
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: to do that, Joey. We're trying to get that thing

709
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: built at the time, and then we were trying to

710
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: get that stadium built. We went through some things, but hey,

711
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, tell how great the feeling was in

712
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: that locker room when we beat Dallas in the in

713
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: the playoff game for the first playoff win that organization

714
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: had had in fifty one years. Oh my goodness, how

715
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: was that, Joe? That was great? That was so special. Man.

716
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: We had worked really really hard during the week to

717
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: get it for the Cowboys and we're playing them at

718
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: their stadium, and uh, we had a fantastic game, our

719
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: secondary and our defensive line, and Jake had an outstanding game.

720
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: Jake the Snake had a great had a great game,

721
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: and we ended up beating those guys. And I, you know,

722
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: I was scared the death of those guys because they

723
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: had a guy out of that named Larry Allen. And

724
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: I remember talking to my defensive line telling them that,

725
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, you guys can hold up against these guys.

726
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: And the first player of the game, Larry came off

727
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: the line and hit our defensive hit our tackle and

728
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: you can hear that crack all over all over the

729
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: dog Golden Stadium. Oh my god, they're gonna kill him.

730
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: I remember that so well because well, but you know what, Joe,

731
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: and just for for history, we had that thing shut

732
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: out until Dion returned that punt, remember, until you finally

733
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: put Don in and they scored one touchdown. That might

734
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: have been one of the best game plans you and

735
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: I and the rest of those defensive coaches ever drew up.

736
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: And but so all the hard times there that that

737
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: made it all worthwhile. And that's why we're all still so,

738
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: we're all still so close. Once we got through there

739
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: at Arizona, I know that, uh that uh, the Rooney's

740
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: called you back and said, Joe, it's time for you

741
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: to come back home. And so you went back to

742
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the personnel department. And when you went

743
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: back to the Steelers of the personnel department, the story

744
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: I love and and you've told me this before too.

745
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: You had always said with your four rings that you

746
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: wanted one for the thumb. And then when they won

747
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl, someone reporter said, Joe, you finally got

748
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: one for the thumb, and you said, no, I've got

749
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: one for the right hand. This is theirs, these are

750
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: these are mine over here, And that to me just

751
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: exemplify that's what you were all about. You were all

752
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: about the people that were in the fray were the

753
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: people that deserved the praise, and Joe Green, you the

754
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: praise that you've got. I mean, look, the greatest defensive

755
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: lineman in the history of the league, and with all

756
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: the accolades that you've had and with everything else that

757
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: has come your way, you can't have any more honors

758
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: than you've had in the National Football League. You are

759
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: still a revered figure. But I wanted to have people

760
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: here listen to you. The true Joe Green one of

761
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: the best human beings I've ever been around, and I

762
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: mean that from the bottom of my heart. Dave, let

763
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: me tell you, coach, I don't know if you know

764
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: this or not. About three weeks ago, maybe a month now,

765
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: I reached my jersey number. Did you know that? Yes?

766
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: I did, Yes, I did, Yes I did. A week later,

767
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: I went down the Temple Temple, Texas, and the Superintendent

768
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: of schools that right then he may it available for

769
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: me to get my high school jersey number seventy five retired, Joe. Joe,

770
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: of all of all the accolades and everything you've ever

771
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: had in your life, that ranks pretty high, doesn't it?

772
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Yes it does, Yes it does, Yes it does. I

773
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: must admit I was standing out there on the before

774
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: the game and they made the presentation, and I must

775
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: admit I got a little teared up. I've been a

776
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: lot of places, Dave and Gott been a part of

777
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: some big events with some outstanding people, and that was

778
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: that was special. And that just tells the man that

779
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: you are because you've never never forgotten where you came from. Yeah, Dave,

780
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: I told you that story about me traveling through right

781
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: next to your hometown. Where was that? Snyder Snyder Texas,

782
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: Snyder Texas. Yeah, there you go, Godlee right hood close

783
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: to middlingn't it? Yes? Yes, Middle? No, Dath, absolutely it is.

784
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: When we were in Arizona, I used to come to

785
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Texas home to visit my mom, and I had this

786
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: car that I had for some reason been stupid. I

787
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: took off without coming to Texas without getting my my

788
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: tires changed. And I knew I had to get one

789
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: get them changed, but I was didn't want to wait.

790
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: I didn't want to wait to be serviced, so I

791
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: came to Texas. This was on coming back my return

792
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: trip from Dallas to finger right below middling boom, yeah,

793
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it was like a hundred and

794
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: six degree out in the middle of nowhere, adding the

795
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, add in the middle of nowhere. And

796
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: I said, okay, well, you know, I had my daughter,

797
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: my granddaughter, and my wife and the trump was full

798
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: of clothes, so we had to take everything out of

799
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: the trunk put it on top of the car to

800
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: going in and get a spare. When I went to

801
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: get the spare to spare, looked like it had been

802
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: blown out, but we put the thing on there. Anyway,

803
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: I didn't get four revolutions in this tire before it

804
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: blew out. And I'm in the medium then I'm saying,

805
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: what the world a m I gonna do? And I

806
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: look across and I see this service station bar and

807
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: it looked like a place out of You ever see

808
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: that out of the west, Joe, I grew up out there.

809
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: I know what those places it looked like, jess Beans,

810
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: I grew up out there. Joe, you don't have to

811
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: explain to me what it looked like. My goodness, And

812
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, we we pushed roll it up there and wabble,

813
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: and I said, my goodness, I walked through the door

814
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: and there's this guy sitting there here. One of these

815
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: strang hats rolls up, you know, like a big point

816
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: in the top, and he had to just check a shirt,

817
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: sleeves roll up and handed cigarettes in the sleeve. Oh goodness.

818
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: I look at the bar and it was it was

819
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: another guy behind the bar, and they all looked, you know,

820
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: that's a Oh my goodness. I knew this was gonna

821
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: be a tough time. And when it was five four

822
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: at the table and the bar bartender and I was

823
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: about four steps then, and I'm thinking, boy, boy, boy,

824
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: I knew I was in a bad place. And the

825
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: guy behind the boy said me and Joe to me,

826
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: my field run away. That to me just typifies what

827
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: Joe Green means not only to Temple, Texas, but to

828
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: all of Texas. That's a great story. That guy is

829
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: so good. The guy came out to the out of

830
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: the bar and he had a jack on his truck,

831
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: took it out and put it under my car. We

832
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: had to drive probably about ten miles in a different

833
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: direction to get a new tire, and he did me

834
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: real And when I came back, my family was sitting

835
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: in there and taking over the table. They were eating

836
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: and drinking, drinking pop Yo. Man, this was great West

837
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: West Seas, West Texas. But I tell you it helped

838
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: that when you walk through the door, you know, just

839
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: like the sheriff you used to in those Westerns, you

840
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: walk through that door, it was a good thing that

841
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: you were. Joe Green. Hey, I just knew you were

842
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: good to turn around the start to run it good

843
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: good people out there. Joe. This has been absolutely fantastic.

844
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. This has been fabulous. I hope

845
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: you have enjoyed it as much as we have. And uh, look,

846
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: you know that my phone is always open to you.

847
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: You are the absolute best, my friend, Joe Green, you

848
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: are the best. Thank you, coach, Thank you, coach Mac.

849
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: Talking to Joe Green is one of the highlights of

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Speaker 1: my life. You know what, seriously, I mean, I've had

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Speaker 1: I been with a lot of really really unique people

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Speaker 1: in my you know, thirty five years in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League, but coaching with Joe Green for eight years.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was my defensive line coach when I

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Speaker 1: was a coordinator, and then the four years I was

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Speaker 1: a head coach, he was my defensive line coach. I

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Speaker 1: still remember the day we said it in there when

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Speaker 1: Don Shoela called me and said, you know, I've got

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Speaker 1: a guy for you if you want to interview him,

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Speaker 1: and it was it was really unique. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: brought a complete you could hear in there. He's a

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Speaker 1: very unique individual and one of really one of the

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Speaker 1: premier players ever in the history of the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: I think people identify Joe Green with the National Football

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Speaker 1: League and the co commercial that he just went into

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Speaker 1: with us that was such a great inside story. But

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Speaker 1: Joe Green is an icon. There are certain they're Hall

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Speaker 1: of famers, which he is, but there are certain Hall

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Speaker 1: of famers that are iconic. He's iconic when you think

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Speaker 1: about legendary NFL players, like this is the National Football

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Speaker 1: League Joe Green? Immediately the thing is cool. And I've

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Speaker 1: been to several, you know, Hall of Fame ceremonies, and

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Speaker 1: when all those guys come back Hall of Famers pay

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Speaker 1: homage to Joe Green, that's when you know it's the

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Speaker 1: real deal. Yes, that's when you know your big time.

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Speaker 1: And I think I thanked him two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: four times for being on the show with us. I

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Speaker 1: was very appreciative. He's a. He's a great human being.

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Speaker 1: He really is. He's a great human being. Just don't

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Speaker 1: make him mad on the field. No, I don't think

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Speaker 1: I will. But the Titans are heading to the land

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Speaker 1: of Joe Green. They're heading to Pittsburgh to take on

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. This Sunday. Titans Radio Countdown starts at eleven

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Speaker 1: am Central Time. Kick off with Coach Mack and Mike

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Speaker 1: Keith is at noon. All Titans Radio. Sure you check

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Speaker 1: it out. You'll probably get some more doozies like Ford

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Speaker 1: over Rooster. It's all organic. There's nothing played, no scripting.

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Speaker 1: I have no script I have no I have no

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Speaker 1: script up there. It's all organic, and that's what everybody likes.

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Speaker 1: But you're good for like two or three good ones

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Speaker 1: a game. Well I don't know what good ones mean.

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Speaker 1: Ford over Rooster, that's a good one. But that's a

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Speaker 1: real one. And I've got I've got a lot more.

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Speaker 1: It just depends on what happens during the ball game. Well,

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Speaker 1: hopefully there's a lot of good analogies because the Titans

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Speaker 1: are doing good things. I want all good things for

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Speaker 1: the Titans. This is I'm really looking forward to this

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Speaker 1: football game. This is going to be This is going

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Speaker 1: to be a game, This is gonna be old school,

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Speaker 1: hit him in the mouth football. Max makes me so happy.

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Speaker 1: This is what we came for. Yes, c for Coach Mac.

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Speaker 1: I'm Titans Amy. Thank you so much for listening to

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Speaker 1: the Titans Amy and Coach Mac podcast peop