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Speaker 2: I am here at the almost Famous OG podcast, and

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Speaker 2: I am really excited to get back into sharing some

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Speaker 1: So I've got a great guest today. I love this woman.

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Speaker 2: You all know her and love her from the first

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Speaker 2: season of Golden Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. I know

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Speaker 2: to the Almost Famous OG Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Faith Martin. Welcome. I'm so happy to chat.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while. Happy New Year, Thank you to

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Speaker 1: you as well.

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Speaker 3: Happy twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe it's twenty twenty six. And you know

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that because my son.

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Speaker 1: Is graduating high school this year.

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Speaker 2: I know, I mean, I know, you've been there. You've

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Speaker 2: been there and there long ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So before we get into all of the happy

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Speaker 2: things happening in our new year, I would love to

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Speaker 2: go back a little bit and talk about Obviously we

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Speaker 2: met on the Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: Loved that day. It was so much fun. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: And then let's see, we saw each other at the

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Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor wedding, and I watched you on Bachelor in Paradise.

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Speaker 2: we all know we saw on Instagram that you guys

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Speaker 1: What happened, you know, as.

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Speaker 3: Because heck yeah, it was so so incredibly enlightening, Trista

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Speaker 3: so our kids are really really important. And yeah, I

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00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: don't know. We just are very much in tune with

432
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: what we do in our every day. And I think

433
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 3: also we really enjoy each other's companies, so we have

434
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: fun together. We have the same sense of humor. I mean,

435
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 3: I have never laughed as much in my whole entire

436
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: life as I have laughed since I've been with him.

437
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: So the fact that we get each other's weird humor

438
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 3: is just so fun. So yeah, I think so important.

439
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's probably if I had to give

440
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: advice to people, that would be one of the things

441
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: I'd say to look for someone who makes you laugh.

442
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the chemistry is completely there. I find him,

443
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: you know, not just intellectually appealing, but physically and sexually

444
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 3: and you know, charismatically appealing to me. And so you know,

445
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: and that's hard as we get older. You know, when

446
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 3: you look at you're like, you know, but yeah, I

447
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 3: just I like who he is. He's very tender, very sweet,

448
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: very kind, very patient. You know, he does not have

449
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: an angry edge to him. He's just very mild but

450
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: yet cute and sexy. He loves to dance, he likes

451
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: to sing, he's you know, he likes to ride horses.

452
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: He loves my dog.

453
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a catch.

454
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: He's a catch. He is. He really is, or seems

455
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 3: to me he should be, you know, he seems to be.

456
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 3: That's the thing. It's like, how long does it take

457
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 3: to really get to know someone? You know? Everybody starts

458
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: out going, oh this is great. You know. So he

459
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: always says I love you so much, and I always

460
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: say you say that now, But he's like, he's like

461
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: ten ten years from now, you're going to be saying

462
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 3: that because I always say that, Oh you say that now.

463
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: He's like, I find you so attractive, and I'm like,

464
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 3: you say that now, But when my booths are down

465
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: to here and my hair is completely gray because they're

466
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: on their way right.

467
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: Oh yes?

468
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you have learned about yourself in

469
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: this new relationship?

470
00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I've just been contemplating the difficult wholeness I

471
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 3: have over really letting love in, really believing it, really

472
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: trusting it. And I always say, there's no guarantees, you know,

473
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 3: there's just not any guarantees. So you know, we both

474
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: may feel this way right now, but what if three

475
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: months from now we don't feel this way, you know?

476
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 3: And He's like, I absolutely know, and you know, you

477
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 3: feel like you absolutely know. But I just it is

478
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 3: interesting for me too. I've noticed just how easy it

479
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: is for me to always discount things that are so

480
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 3: great because I'm like, ah, he feels that way now.

481
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: But you know, just because of that, you know, life

482
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: is always full of surprises and it is very, very

483
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: scary to trust in it. So I definitely am trying

484
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 3: to let myself enjoy it and really feel the moment

485
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: instead of, you know, kind of pushing it away a

486
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: little bit. Also that I've learned that, you know, I've

487
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: been living on my own for so long, and it

488
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: is you know, it's a challenge. I feel like twenty

489
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 3: twenty six of the year where you got to decide

490
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: are we breaking old patterns? Are we going for not

491
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: what's just comfortable? Because if I do that. I'm just

492
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: going to be back doing the same things I've always

493
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: done in the Tri Cities, playing music, spending every weekend alone,

494
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: doing you know, my own things, which I enjoy, but

495
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 3: being on my own or do I really allow myself

496
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: to open up to new challenges some discomfort in adjusting

497
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: to living in somebody else's home, to having someone in

498
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: my space twenty four to seven, that kind of thing.

499
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: So those are thoughts that have kind of gone through

500
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: my mind. You know, I don't want to jump too

501
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: fast in anything and make anything permanent permanent just because

502
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 3: I'm always going well what if you know? What if? Is?

503
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: What if that? You know? So, yeah, those are interesting

504
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: perspectives that I am enlightened by every day. With faith,

505
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: you know, where's your trust level on? You know that

506
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: just because you got to kind of go for stuff,

507
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: but you also have to sort of tread lightly because

508
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: you've got to know if things don't work out, I

509
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: don't want to have sold my house or you know.

510
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, rightly, be realistic.

511
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, realistic. Yeah, I think you.

512
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: Can be both.

513
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: I think you can be romantic and had heartstrong and

514
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: also you know, be realistic and headstrong.

515
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: So it's all good.

516
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: You do you Yeah, you touched on this a little bit,

517
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 2: but you wrote a post with your boyfriend, and I

518
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: want to read that just for all the all of

519
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: the people, not including the million views who haven't read

520
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: it yet, because I do think it is so important

521
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: and I have said this for so long to do

522
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: the same thing. So I'll get into that. But this

523
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: is what Faith said in her post. To all the

524
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: women who think they can't bear the loneliness of being

525
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: by themselves and end up settling with a partner that's

526
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: not quite their right person, I'm here to tell you

527
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: it's worth the way to hold out for the one

528
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: who is everything to you. I just love that it

529
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: is so true. Never settle, no matter what your age,

530
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: no matter what your past relationship experiences have been. I

531
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: think it is so important, and I tell my kids

532
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: this all the time. Don't settle just because you feel

533
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: like you know, you're having a good time and you're happy.

534
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: And you know, before Blake's Lee had a boyfriend, she's sixteen.

535
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: Now you know, I'm like, don't lower your standards just

536
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: because you feel like you want to have a boyfriend

537
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: like your other friends like, never lower your standards.

538
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Never settle.

539
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: Always hold true to what you value as important, because

540
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: then you're going to at least have a better chance

541
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: of happiness than if you settle just for somebody who's there.

542
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Then you are discounting your ability to be happy and

543
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: not giving yourself that chance. So I love that you

544
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: said that. I thought all of those words were so important.

545
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: And since you've had a million views of that, have

546
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: you had a lot of people kind of come out

547
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: of the woodwork and comment and reach out to you.

548
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: So many people. It's funny because that was that was

549
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: not a really thought out thing that I said. It

550
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 3: was an instant feeling, and it took me about three

551
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: seconds to write it, and it was kind of like,

552
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to put this song because we were having

553
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: so fun, so much fun that night, and I just

554
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: was so in that moment, so happy that I found

555
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: someone that really shares my passions about things that I

556
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: am really passionate about. With the horses, and we can

557
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: go horse camping and traveling, we can do music, you know,

558
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: all those things. We're just really enjoying that. Where so

559
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: many people that I've dated, they may have great things

560
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: going on, but they're not really things that I can

561
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: relate to so much, or vice versa. So I wrote

562
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: that so quickly and threw it up there, like, I

563
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: guess the world's going to know we're dating, you know,

564
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: That's kind of all I thought about. And then it

565
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: just had boom boom boom and literally thousands and thousands

566
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: of messages and you know, just it. It'll make me

567
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: cry to talk about it. But I'm like the love

568
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: that pours out of people like faith, we are so

569
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: happy for you. You deserve this all this stuff. And

570
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, is it that total strangers care about

571
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: my heart? You know? I mean, it's so nice, it's

572
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: so kind, And I think that that is the most

573
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: beautiful thing that came from being on the Golden Bachelor,

574
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: is that you find that complete and total strangers that

575
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: went through that journey with you and really did care

576
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: about your heart and they're just so happy that I

577
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: found someone. So for them to just sit down, grab

578
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: their phone write a little message to me, I'm like,

579
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: it is so sweet, and it's like that I want

580
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: to let sink that they're no matter how crazy the

581
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: world seems, the people really care about love and they

582
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: want other people to be happy. And you know the

583
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: people that followed that journey, and just you know, I

584
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: think no matter who it is, we all love love, right,

585
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: it's what we all want, we want we'll be happy

586
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: for the people that have it and and want to

587
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: help enjoy that with them. So I just so appreciated

588
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: how people, you know, wrote me all these messages and

589
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 3: they were so happy and they're still coming. It's like

590
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: every post and there, you know, people just comment all

591
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: the time and they're just happy about it. So I'm

592
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: glad because I think a lot of people cried that

593
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: it didn't work out with me and Gary, you know,

594
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: and then they were hopeful with me and Kim. But

595
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I hated it that everybody thought we

596
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: were totally together when we weren't in that way. So

597
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: I had to I went on and finally said, no,

598
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: we're not each other person and we care about each other,

599
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: but that's it. And both Gary and Kim know about

600
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: Sabert also, so we poppable about that. And there they

601
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: were all so happy. You know Gary, you know, Gary

602
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: and I have talked and so Kim and I and

603
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: he's like, oh, that's so great, I'm so happy for you.

604
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's really sweet.

605
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: Well that's sweet.

606
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: Do you still like how how do you stay in touch? Like,

607
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: are you guys getting on the phone or have you

608
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: seen each other?

609
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: Usually it's a text, you know, Gary and I will

610
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: text every now and then. I'm so happy for him.

611
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: He really found a great person. It seems like, I mean,

612
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: they look alike almost right, so we totally do. Yeah, yeah,

613
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: it's like brother and sister. But anyway, they're doing really well.

614
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: And I don't hope Kim's not dating anybody yet. But

615
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: we texted, you know, quite often for a while, but

616
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: he is the last time I heard from him, he

617
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: just texted and said congratulations. I'm so happy for you.

618
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: So we stay in touch and Gary, you know, for

619
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: holidays and stuff. I'll always hear from Gary. And I

620
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: stay in touch with some of the girls. Not as

621
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: much as I used to, but like I just talked

622
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: texted with Leslie the other day and Theresa and you know, so, yeah.

623
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

624
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: You mentioned all this positive commenting outreach to your social media.

625
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: Have you dealt with any negative.

626
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, very little. I think I've had two or maybe one,

627
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: or I'm thinking of one in particular right now. But

628
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: I think in the past during the Golder Bachelor season,

629
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: I think there was two and then there was one

630
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: not too long ago. And it's funny because, for one thing,

631
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: it makes me sad for people, because I'm thinking, what

632
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: is wrong in your life that you would want to

633
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: go out of your way to be mean? And it

634
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: would be something like you're ugly. Your face is like that,

635
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: you look like you're eighty years old, and I'm like, yeah,

636
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: sometimes I do look like this, and sometimes and like

637
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 3: or somebody to go, I hate the way you sing,

638
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: and I'm like, sometimes I hate the way I sing.

639
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like it's okay. But the point that

640
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: you're trying to hurt me is what's really interesting here.

641
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: You know, did you want my attention because you mean things?

642
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: But yet you're still on my page. So if you

643
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: really hated me and you didn't want the attention, why

644
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: would you go out of your way to reach out?

645
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: You know, do you need to talk? You know what's wrong?

646
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: But because you know, like who, I never said I

647
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: look perfect all the time, nor do I claim to

648
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: or you know, it's like, yep, bad lighting. Maybe maybe

649
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: my skin really does look like it's eight years old.

650
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. Probably, I'm really I never took care

651
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: of it, but the point being, why would you be

652
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: so rude? What's wrong in your life? So, you know,

653
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: I think being in the public that you get used

654
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: to a little of that. And I always say, well,

655
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: I don't have any problem losing followers or friends. I

656
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: don't make my living doing this. It's like an online

657
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: photo album for me. I don't care how many friends

658
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: I have or don't have on social media. So I

659
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: don't have a problem blocking you. If you're going to

660
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: be a rude person, go away, you know so.

661
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: But totally you know, yeah, no, I'm glad that a

662
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: majority is positive for you. I feel like the same

663
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: goes for me. But there's always those one or two

664
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: people like you said, who just they just want to

665
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 2: waste their time making your day, Like like, I don't understand.

666
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has never made sense.

667
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: They said, you have really ugly big cheeks, and I said, oh, well,

668
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: I you know, like there is no filler in my face,

669
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 3: there is no boatoks in my face. So basically you're

670
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: saying that my parents, you know, made an ugly baby. Okay,

671
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: that's your opinion. I try to do with what I have,

672
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: you know, but not that I haven't done bowtoks and

673
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: stuff in the past, but it's been years, you know.

674
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: And I just have really high cheek bones and the

675
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: arrow and when I sign all they get really puffy.

676
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: So but then later I look at Saber and I go,

677
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: do I have chip my cheeks? Have I gained weight?

678
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: You know? And I'm like, He's like, don't don't even

679
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: let them Bobby, Oh.

680
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: No, no, no, yeah, don't you know.

681
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: It's like I have these you know, sagging face. But

682
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not ready to cut up my face nor,

683
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: you know. So this is what I look like. And

684
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: I didn't say I look perfect.

685
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: So yes, when you keep going with that, you are

686
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: beautiful and whatever. If someone has a problem with it, yeah,

687
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: and they just need to remember that if your mom

688
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: didn't say, or your mom always said, if you don't

689
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: have anything nice to say, then don't say anything.

690
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because what is it that people have to pick

691
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: on people that are on TV B because of the

692
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: way they look like It's not our responsibility to have

693
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: to look perfect for people. Why can't we just be healing,

694
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm sixty almost sixty four, I can look how

695
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: I want leave me alone.

696
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: Ye, leave me alone. If you don't like my page,

697
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: then just leave.

698
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: Like that's what I don't understand, Like why do you

699
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: come to my page and actually follow me and actually

700
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: comment Like it makes no sense, it's weird.

701
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: Something doesn't make you happy, then don't go there.

702
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I know it's so weird. Yeah, it's very bizarre.

703
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Okay.

704
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: So we were talking about settling before, and it came

705
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: out recently in Gary's book that you and that he

706
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: had cold feet before the wedding and you guys talked

707
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: before the wedding and you gave him some advice. Can

708
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: you talk about that, like, how were you feeling when

709
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: the book came out? Tell us what that conversation looked

710
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: like and why you felt like compelled to.

711
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Share that with him.

712
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 3: So I didn't read the book. I knew about the book,

713
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: I had not read it, but he did come to

714
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: me that night, and of course I said, don't do it.

715
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: Don't do it. Then, this is Teresa's life, this is

716
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: your life. Don't do it, Tristan, just between you and me,

717
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: because I don't know if I've ever told anybody this

718
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: except for Saber. That night, I really contemplated contemplated being

719
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: the one that stands up at the wedding and objects.

720
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: Can you imagine? I wanted to do it so badly,

721
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: and I thought my producer will kill.

722
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: Me, you know what I mean.

723
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: They would have, but they also would have been like, well,

724
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: this is a moment because you know they're your friends,

725
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: but they're also like producers of a television show.

726
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 3: Right, how the show would have gone.

727
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a part of me that I remember being

728
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: in that bar. We were all in the bar, and right,

729
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: isn't that the night? Like I feel like we were

730
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: all I feel like I was there and for some reason,

731
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if I was near you guys, like

732
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: I have a horrible memory, so I can't place this.

733
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: We were over in the corner and he was like,

734
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to do it. I don't want to

735
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: do it. And he's like, I think I think I

736
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: got too wrapped up in the moment and I don't

737
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: think I should do it. And I was like, well,

738
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: don't do it, don't do it. He goes, I made

739
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: my bed. I did this to myself. I got to

740
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: do it, And I'm like, no, you don't, and you

741
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: should tell Teresa. And I should probably feel in the

742
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: same way. Don't do it, you know, don't do it.

743
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: So but then the hard thing was, and it's so

744
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: much more involved as you could probably imagine. I remember

745
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: the last time I saw you. I was in the

746
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: airport and I had COVID going home because I did

747
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: not sleep for about four days that I was there.

748
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: At the Golden wedding, I was trashed because I knew

749
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: way too much, and I sat up in bed, not

750
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: being able to sleep, and I went, oh my god,

751
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: I am living a soap opera on a TV show.

752
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: But it's the real soap opera that's going on that

753
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: nobody knows about that is far more disturbing than the

754
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: little soap opera that I'm in. It was so weird.

755
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: So then at the wedding, when the cameras are on

756
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: me and I'm crying, I'm crying for so many reasons.

757
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm crying because the man I love is marrying a

758
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 3: woman that I'm not so sure he loves yet telling

759
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: her that he loves her. And I'm knowing Teresa well

760
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: enough to know this is never going to work between

761
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: the two. So those were my feelings going on. But

762
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: at the same time, there is always that different perspective

763
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: that they did commit to each other, that maybe they

764
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: thought in the moment they could really make this work.

765
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: It seems so genuine and so clear that they were

766
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: going to go forward, and I think both of them did.

767
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: And I also think that two things can be true

768
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: at the same time. I hear Teresa and how she

769
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: talks about it, I hear Gary and how he talks

770
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: about it. I think both are honestly telling their truth.

771
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: I think that's how they perceived it with their own lens,

772
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: their triggers. There what was going on in their lives. Scary,

773
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: huge thing to go through, and I love them both,

774
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: and I think they're both right, and they're both true

775
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: and justified in their fe feelings, both of them.

776
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: So totally agree.

777
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: I think you've I'm sure you've heard this, but there

778
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: are three sides to every story. You know, each person's

779
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: account and then the truth. So I think that you

780
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: know your truth is maybe a little bit different from

781
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: the actual truth, but it doesn't matter. It's all about

782
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: you know how you're feeling, and just do you You

783
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: know you've got to do you or else you're not

784
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: going to be happy. And maybe you're stealing that happiness

785
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: from somebody else. Do you have any regrets that you

786
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: didn't stand up at the wedding and say I you do?

787
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. It was one of those ones where

788
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 3: I kind of went, I need to speak up. I

789
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: want to do this. But at the same time, I thought,

790
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: it'll make a mess of everything. It'll make a mess

791
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: of everything, and I should just keep my mouth shut.

792
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: They put too much money into this wedding, and you know,

793
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: I should just shut up. But and then afterwards too,

794
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: after Gary's book came out, I had to Teresa and say,

795
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 3: I kept that from you because what could I have done?

796
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: I mean, what could I have done?

797
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my next question. If you had had

798
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: told anyone, including Teresa that he said that.

799
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: No. No, I actually had told one of my personal

800
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: producers at the time, but he said he agreed, Faith,

801
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: you got to keep your mouth shut, you know, I mean,

802
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 3: I don't think this is your business kind of a thing.

803
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay. But it was hard because it

804
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: would have made a mess. It would have made a

805
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: mess of the show. It would have thrown everything crazy,

806
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: and they would have had to have done a lot

807
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 3: of scrambling. But and then I couldn't tell Teresa. So

808
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: you know, when Teresa's confiding in me, and after the show,

809
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: you know, Teresa's confiding me, Gary's confiding me, and I

810
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: have to just sit there and go, oh my god.

811
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: I got to the point where I was like, I

812
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: can't talk to either one of you. I don't want

813
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: to be caught up in the middle of this. And

814
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: then you know, when the book came out, I had

815
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: to and everybody was telling me, you know, and I

816
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: was hearing all this stuff, and then Gary's you know,

817
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: kind of threw me under the bus. Faith told me

818
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: not to do it. I'm like, oh, for God's sake.

819
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: So then I called Teresa and I had to say, Teresa,

820
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: of course I had to keep that from you. But

821
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: what would have happened had I come to you? You know?

822
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I don't know. Is it always the

823
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: right thing to speak up? I don't know. Would have

824
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: caused a lot of trouble, but maybe it would have

825
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: saved a little bit of a mess too in some ways.

826
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: So I guess we'll never know.

827
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: We'll never know.

828
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 2: And that's the reason that I'm going to tell you.

829
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: You can't live with regret. You know, I'm not your therapist,

830
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: but I feel like I you know, you just you

831
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: can't regret what you can't change, you know, like move forward.

832
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: They're both happy now, and I feel like that's what

833
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: you need to focus on.

834
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that they must have both learned

835
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: something from it and yeah, and they are happy and

836
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: you know, I mean thirty years from now, and I

837
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: really feel like I could at least fill my nuts.

838
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: I'd like to give more of the details, you know,

839
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: Inside edition. Inside Edition contacted me and they wanted this

840
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: scoop and I'm like, boy, how i'd love they did.

841
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no way, yeah, they said, after the book

842
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: came out, they wanted to know. And I said, boy,

843
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: what I would love to be able to tell you

844
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: every single detail, but you know what, I won't. I'm

845
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 3: going to keep my mouth shut. It's not my story

846
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 3: to tell. And I said, so, don't don't ask me again.

847
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 3: I'm not going to spill theos.

848
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: But no, no, all respect for that.

849
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: You know.

850
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: You say what you want to say and keep keep

851
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: whatever you want to keep private.

852
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: Have you met Gary's fiance.

853
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: I have not, but she seems lovely. She seems lovely.

854
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: I mean, could you know who knows, right, But she

855
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: really does seem lovely and they seem happy, and yeah,

856
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: I think it's really good. I don't think Teresa is

857
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: with anyone quite yet, but you know, maybe that's still

858
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: to come.

859
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: No, yeah, you never know. Do you want to get

860
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: married again? Would you consider being a fiance again?

861
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: So here's the interesting thing.

862
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: I as you.

863
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: Know, when I went on Golden Batchelor, I didn't know

864
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: people got engaged at the end. I know, I was

865
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: a really silly naive one. I had no idea. There

866
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: was a rose ceremony every week. I had no idea

867
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: about any of it. But I always thought, well, what

868
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: would ever be the reason to get married again? I

869
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: don't know that i'd ever want to do that, but

870
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: for some reason, you know, I think that, And I'm

871
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: fine never getting married again. I'm fine with being eternally engaged.

872
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: I'm fine with just living together. I'm fine with not

873
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: living together and living separately. So for me, it's just

874
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: not a huge thing. I will say that for Sabered,

875
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 3: he's a little more traditional and he really does want

876
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: that to happen, So no rush on it. But I

877
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: will show you this.

878
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: Stupid did it happen is that it is that a

879
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: pass me ring engagement.

880
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 3: It's just that we we you know, we ended up

881
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: talking about it and and you know, we kind of

882
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: decided that we would like to get engaged someday, and

883
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: we happened to be in this place and we actually

884
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: both bought each other rings because he bought me this

885
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: and I wanted to buy him one too, and so

886
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: we're kind of like we haven't been you know, I said, well,

887
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: you got to ask me in a special way, and

888
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: he's like, okay, okay, when do you want to do that?

889
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: And I'm like, not anytime real scene. So so we

890
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: could let it be for a little bit like this

891
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: because it would feel too sick. But yeah, of course

892
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: we've already talked about it. We already know who would

893
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: marry us. We even kind of know what we would do,

894
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: and you know, we've kind of tossed it around. But

895
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: then we're all so going, we don't need to rush

896
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: into it. We'll just see how things go. But yeah,

897
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 3: isn't it weird because now all of a sudden, I'm like, okay,

898
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: we're my best friend's like what you always said you

899
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: would never you said you'd never moved. You said, you

900
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: never do this, you said, and I'm like, I know,

901
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what you know, so it.

902
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: Just makes you crazy, right, Yeah.

903
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: So but I always I always caveat it with but

904
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: we'll see because you never know. But you know, we

905
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: give something enough time, who knows. But I'm open to

906
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: it for sure.

907
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love seeing that. Is that a sapphire?

908
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 3: So no, I'm not a big I'm not a big

909
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 3: diamond person. It's a gardener.

910
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: I know you're not.

911
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: And so I like, I've always said I would rather

912
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: see diamonds on the water in the sunlight, then I

913
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: would have a diamond on my finger. I'm just like,

914
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: it seems like so much money for such a little thing.

915
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: You know, I'd rather have acreage or better things for

916
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: my horse, or a better barn, so don't spend many

917
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 3: on diamonds. But then I saw this, and I love

918
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 3: the passion stone garnet. It's such a passionstone. It's red.

919
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: It's also my favorite color, and that it does have

920
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: little diamonds around. So I'll give you a close uplet.

921
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful. Oh my gosh, faith is beautiful.

922
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I loved blue from farther away or black. Yeah,

923
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: but closer up you can tell them.

924
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a it's a garnet. And I just

925
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: it looked so much like me. I'm like, I think

926
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: I meant to have that. I was like, okay, and

927
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: then I wanted him to have something. So we actually

928
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: bought each other. We're wearing rings. But I haven't hard

929
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: launched that or I haven't said we're engaged ring because

930
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: he has to ask me first, and I'm not I

931
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: don't know if he should do that right yet.

932
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I get that, I get that. Are you are

933
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: Do you like surprises? Would you want him to do

934
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: it on a day that you didn't know, or would

935
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 2: you want to have it planned?

936
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you know that? I? I you know,

937
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: I never even had a wedding, Trista, I didn't know.

938
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: So when I married my husband, I married him eight

939
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: days after he kissed me, and we just went down

940
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 3: in jeans in front of a judge. No one was there.

941
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: I didn't have any family there. Nobody even met him

942
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: until after our first baby was born, you know, sixteen

943
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: months later. And so I have never planned a wedding,

944
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: been a part of a wedding, and never so I

945
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: don't know the first thing about it. I know that

946
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: I've seen other people do all that, and I'm like,

947
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 3: oh my god, that sounds like a headache. I would

948
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: never like, I would go everybody wear what they want

949
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: to wear, show up, you know, like I don't want

950
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 3: it to be a hassle for anyone, you know. But

951
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: I thought of things like this, let our grandkids ride

952
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: the horses and throw out flowers. Would that be so

953
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, Yes, that was so cute with grandkids. Yeah. So,

954
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: I mean, first time in my whole life at sixty

955
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: three years old, I'm like kind of thinking if we

956
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: got married here and what would we do. Yeah, I've

957
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: never worn a wedding dress.

958
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: Oh you need to. I mean, we need to get

959
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: you in a white dress. Is anyone listening out there?

960
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 3: Right? There's a picture of my ex husband and I

961
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 3: with all dressed up. But it was actually a prom.

962
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: It was some radio thing that I did as a prom,

963
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: and so I was in a white dress. Everybody's like,

964
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: it's not your wedding dress. Nope. I got married in

965
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: Jean's in a sweater in front of a job eight

966
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: days after my husband kissed me and we had never

967
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 3: slept together, so it's like, yeah, I mean.

968
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: When you'd like you like I said, you know, when

969
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: you know you know? Yup? I mean please.

970
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: I got engaged after six weeks and we're still married,

971
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: so it's.

972
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: Like crazy, yeah, yeah, so so exciting and fun. But

973
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: nobody knows about this, so I guess keep it a secret.

974
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. In fact, Gary I did tell I said,

975
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: keep it a secret, but I think we're sort of

976
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 3: unofficially engaged, and so he's like, oh, he's like me too.

977
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: And then who else I saw somebody else? Is Susan engaged? Also?

978
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: I think I don't know if she is. I don't know,

979
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: but I know she's, you know, pretty together with that guy, right,

980
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't. She never calls me. Kathy and

981
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: I have talked occasionally, but I haven't heard from Susan

982
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 3: a long time, so I don't know.

983
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I don't just love that you all

984
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: are finding love. That's amazing.

985
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: Isn't it so weird? Yeah, it's not weird. It's amazing.

986
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: I love it.

987
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 3: It's so great, it's great, but it's weird. I never

988
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: really I kind of thought if I can go on

989
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: a National TV show and still not fine in love.

990
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, this is not happening, so yeah, surprise.

991
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: Surprise, No, it can't happen any in any way, in

992
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: any way, as you have shown. I have a few

993
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: more questions, one of them being, since you're in a

994
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: happy relationship, do you think that Sab has any friends

995
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: that you could hook up the rest of your golden

996
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: friends with?

997
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: Would you ever play matchmakers?

998
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: I love playing matchmaker. I've done that a few times

999
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 3: and it's actually worked out. I'm actually quite good at it. Okay,

1000
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: but he does not because I'm working on one for

1001
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: my very best friend who's an extraordinary athlete, and and

1002
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't you have any friends? You know? He

1003
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: works a lot and he's kind of a relationship guy,

1004
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: so he's not really a hangout with the buddy. He's

1005
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: a lot guy, you know. I mean, he's got guy friends,

1006
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: but they're all married. So but I'll certainly be keeping

1007
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: my eyes open.

1008
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: You're going to be on the lookout.

1009
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: I'll be on the matchmaker. I love that.

1010
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure Leslie and Teresa would be happy for that.

1011
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1012
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

1013
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: One dating tip that you have for any goldens out there, listening.

1014
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: This is probably not going to be favorable at anybody.

1015
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: But I always let a guy. I let a guy

1016
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: see me in my worstness right from the get go,

1017
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, Okay, we had our first date and

1018
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 3: I'm wearing maskara, but the truth of it is hardly

1019
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: ever wearing it ever. So and I'm not. I don't

1020
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 3: curl my hair every day, and I wear baggy clothes

1021
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: and shoes, and you know, like I don't. I don't

1022
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: put on any facades of any kind right from the

1023
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 3: get go. It's like, I don't. I don't have time

1024
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 3: to do all that stuff for some reason. No, you know,

1025
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm just like so I figure if they like me

1026
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 3: at my worst, then they'll like me at my best.

1027
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty transparent right from the get go. And

1028
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: I really always say, please be the same. Don't pretend

1029
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: to like everything I like, you know, don't say things,

1030
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: don't be agreeable if you don't agree. God, we're too

1031
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: old for that. You know, be who you are, please

1032
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: upfront so I get to know. Otherwise you're just going

1033
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: to prolong the inevitable and then you know you'll break

1034
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: up when you find out who the real person is.

1035
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: So be yourself, be who you are, you know, let

1036
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: it all hang out there and if they don't like it,

1037
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: then more time meant together.

1038
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, exactly.

1039
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: I think that's so such good advice. You should be

1040
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 2: real in a relationship. You should be who you are

1041
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: so that you know you both know what you're dealing with.

1042
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 2: I feel like a long time ago, Howard Stern said

1043
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: something about I was blonde on the Bachelor and then

1044
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: the Bachelorette, and I think years later I became a

1045
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: brunette or something, and he's like, well, I guess Ryan's

1046
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: not getting what he signed up for something like that.

1047
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: Like I was not being real, you know. I was like,

1048
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: you know what things we have that.

1049
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: We could changeau whatever? I mean?

1050
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: Yes, so I you know, I don't. I think it's

1051
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 2: very important though, to to like you were saying of say,

1052
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: please don't act like you like to do something that

1053
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: you don't like to do, because I need to know

1054
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: who you are and if we're compatible.

1055
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: I think that's really important. Great advice. Yeah, what do

1056
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: you think of?

1057
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: Uh?

1058
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: Actually, did you watch Golden bachel number two?

1059
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 3: Are you talking about Jones season or no?

1060
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: The Bachelor with mel Owens.

1061
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 2: No, I did not, Okay, I didn't, so do you

1062
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: I mean you might have heard some rumblings about the show.

1063
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: Maybe do you think that they'll have another golden season?

1064
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, I think quite honestly, when the rumblings

1065
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 3: that I heard on social media was that he didn't

1066
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: want to date anybody over sixty and blah blah blah.

1067
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: And then I remember hearing something to her and said,

1068
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: you know, one of the gals and I don't know

1069
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 3: which one it was, said, oh, well, we're really good

1070
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: looking ladies. The first season was those were very good

1071
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 3: looking ladies or something like that. I had to giggle

1072
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 3: right now, because there's times when I look at us

1073
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like, we were all exhausted. We were all

1074
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: looking pretty haggard at times, right, you know, it was tough.

1075
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: I love all our ladies. I loved our season, but

1076
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, maybe we were a little less put

1077
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 3: together or you know, on the superficial side, a little

1078
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: less superficial than some of the ones. Now there's younger,

1079
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, some women really know how

1080
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: to do all that, and they do, and that's great,

1081
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: more power to them. But I kind of felt like

1082
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 3: our side were you know, Susan's working in a hair salon,

1083
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: and Leslie's dance and she's a teacher, and I'm, you know,

1084
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: doing something like we I don't know, we're just more

1085
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: of the working women, you know, keeping it. Yeah, so

1086
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 3: we were all dulled up, maybe as much as they were.

1087
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, but so I didn't I ended up. I

1088
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know if it was that or

1089
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: just I didn't. I was a little bit put off

1090
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 3: by mel and his thing with what he said, and

1091
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: I was like, huh And then yeah, so I didn't

1092
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 3: watch it. I'm sure it was good, but don't worry.

1093
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: No, there's no there's no judgment here if you didn't

1094
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: watch it. I just didn't know. I wanted to know,

1095
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: just to put everything in perspective.

1096
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know if there's going to be

1097
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 3: a third one. I have no idea. But you know, me,

1098
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: christ I hardly know how to work the TV. There's

1099
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: too many remotes.

1100
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 1: You know, Uh huh, I get it. I am.

1101
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: I am technologically savvy sometimes, but yeah, I know people

1102
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: who are like, yeah, no, I think and that's okay. Uh,

1103
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: if you have if they do do another Golden Bachelor,

1104
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: would you sign up a friend. Obviously you wouldn't go

1105
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: back on, but would you sign up a friend to

1106
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: do it based on how your experience went?

1107
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: Ooh interesting. I wish they would do a couple of

1108
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 3: things different. Please tell me, well, I'm sure it's the

1109
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 3: typical typical stuff like you know, well, I really probably

1110
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: shouldn't say so. I don't know that I should that.

1111
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: I wish they would, Honestly, I wish they would let

1112
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: it be a little more real, like I do when

1113
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 3: people say did they edit blah blah blah? They didn't

1114
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: really edit out stuff or do anything weird like that,

1115
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: but I wish things were a little more real. I'll

1116
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: just put it like that. As far as the timelines go,

1117
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 3: of course, you know, like it would have been great.

1118
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 3: I keep thinking it would be so great to have,

1119
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: like the way BIP was, where we had so much

1120
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: time to really do stuff, and you know, they filmed everything,

1121
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: but then they condensed it so small. I feel like

1122
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: oftentimes they leave out the really good stuff, the part

1123
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: where we're having these major, you know, interesting reflective lights

1124
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: going off in our heads about real issues and things

1125
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: that are so important for women today and what we

1126
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: go through at this age looking for love and the

1127
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: things we think about, and you know, I think that's

1128
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 3: far more interesting than the little stupid drama stuff that

1129
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: happens on the side. But maybe that's not good TV to,

1130
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: you know, to the audience that the show goes for.

1131
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 3: So who knows, But yeah, I I you know, through

1132
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: it all, I would say it was a fabulous experience

1133
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: for me. So I loved it. I'm glad I did it.

1134
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 3: But what I want to put anyone else in those shoes?

1135
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: You just give them really good advice.

1136
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that probably the advice I would

1137
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: say is do more of what some of the other

1138
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 3: girls did. They just had fun no matter what. They

1139
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 3: didn't worry so much about the whole love thing. But

1140
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: you know, of course I was going in, going this

1141
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: could change my life? Is this going to be the

1142
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: man I marry? Is this going to be a person

1143
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: I spend the rest of my life with the show

1144
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: just got so serious and I'm not that serious of

1145
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: a person quite honestly, So it just it head tripped

1146
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: me really bad, Like, why am I on this silly

1147
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: show unless this is the guy I'm marrying and I'm scared.

1148
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: I was just like Oh my gosh, I'm going to

1149
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: be with you know. So it really was traumatic in

1150
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: so many ways, honestly, the strange, strange, but very enlightening.

1151
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 3: I'm really glad I did it. It's been a lot

1152
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: of fun. Totally Bachelor in Paradise a blast.

1153
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well good, I mean it looked like you guys

1154
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: were having fun. I feel like everything happens for a reason.

1155
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: And you know, if you hadn't gone on Golden Bachelor,

1156
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: do you feel like you would have gone on match

1157
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: and then gone off match and then gone on match

1158
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: and met Sabe, Like do you know what I mean? Like,

1159
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: maybe you guys wouldn't have met had it not been

1160
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: for the show, just because of the way your your

1161
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: life was, your mind was.

1162
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe maybe because if had I not gone on

1163
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: Golden I wouldn't have been on Bachelor in Paradise. And

1164
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: Bachelor in Paradise was so much fun. I would do

1165
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 3: that in a heartbeat. That was a blast. I loved it.

1166
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: I had so much fun. And had I not even

1167
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 3: had that little experience with Kim to really kind of

1168
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: feel out what I was really looking for and what

1169
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 3: was important, but still what I felt like I needed

1170
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 3: you know, I think it was that that made me

1171
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: say I could be open to a relationship again, and

1172
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: I need to explore that more. And I, I don't know,

1173
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: something felt different after b IP. I think I felt

1174
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: more more brave about just trying it on like I

1175
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: did with Kim, because I think the fear with us women,

1176
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: at least myself, is if you try it on a

1177
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: little bit and it doesn't work out, it ends horribly.

1178
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: It's somebody's always super hurt, upset, mad, takes you months

1179
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 3: to get rid of them. I'm sorry to say that,

1180
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 3: but you know, like they're crying at your door, they're

1181
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: stalking you, they're causing trouble at your work. I mean

1182
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: just like, so it's really hard to put yourself out

1183
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 3: there and even engage at all with you know, letting

1184
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: down any boundaries because it's so hard to get out

1185
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 3: of when you want to get out of it. So

1186
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: all of us just sort of go, oh, it's not

1187
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 3: worth the risk, right, But I Kim was so good

1188
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 3: about it when I brought things up. When I talked

1189
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 3: about it, I was like, Okay, there's got to be other

1190
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: men that are mature like that, that understand that as

1191
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: adults if it doesn't work out, you can move on

1192
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: and everything's fine, right, So I think he really gave

1193
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 3: me hope that hey, you know, it's okay to try

1194
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 3: it on, to look at things like that, to investigate

1195
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: a relationship and if it doesn't work out, calmly, nicely

1196
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: back out, go on to better different things. So yeah,

1197
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: I don't know that I would have gone on match again,

1198
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: not being for a Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, and that situation.

1199
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, however you get there is great.

1200
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: And I'm so glad that I got to meet you

1201
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: through Golden Bachelor and that you're part of the Bachelor

1202
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: Nation family. Thank you so much for coming on almost

1203
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: famous Ojez and chatting with me today.

1204
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm so glad to see you. It's fun to see you.

1205
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 3: It's been a long time. So yes, absolutely, thank you

1206
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: so much.

1207
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: You're so happy for Thank you.

1208
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: Please tell save hello and I will congratulations on your

1209
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: happy relationship and happy here again.

1210
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: Thank you. I hope I hear from you again sometime.

1211
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: Stay in touch, of course. M M.