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Speaker 2: What's shaking everyone. Emily A Body here.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to episode three hundred and nine of Hurdle,

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Speaker 3: a wellness focused podcast where I talk to inspirational people

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Speaker 3: essential tips on how to live a healthier, happier, more

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Speaker 3: motivated life. We all go through our fair share of hurdles.

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Speaker 3: My goal through these discussions is to power you to

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Speaker 2: For today's episode, I am chatting with Nia Aikins.

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Speaker 3: She is a professional runner for Brooks and she's heading

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'll make sure to link that new track

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Speaker 1: more in my faith, spending more time in His word

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00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 1: and you know, building a faith community and then also

443
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: playing guitar and worshiping.

444
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's interesting to me that you said that

445
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: there were times that you should have been perhaps a

446
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: little bit more and I'm paraphrasing here diligent within your faith.

447
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: Why do you feel that way now looking back on it?

448
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: And what was going on during those times?

449
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 1: I was just putting my identity and the wrong things,

450
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: and like part of that was music, and part of

451
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: that was track, and I just felt like, you know,

452
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: if the song didn't turn out the way I wanted

453
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: it too, where if the race didn't go the way

454
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: that I wanted to, I was just so upset and

455
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: I was just very anxious and honestly depressed and confused.

456
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, why am I putting my identity

457
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: in this when, like you know, in the past, I've

458
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: gone to Jesus first, and I put my identity in

459
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: Jesus first, And like there was peace in that, there

460
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: was comfort in that, like there's just there's no question

461
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: to me. Like I was like, why am I choosing

462
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: this over that when I know how it's going to

463
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: make me feel. So I think putting Jesus back in

464
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: the center, which is like a daily battle and there

465
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: are like some days where I'm really good at it

466
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: and some days where I'm not. But like putting him

467
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: back in the center, just no matter what happens, I'm

468
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: just like okay, like I still have that peace, I

469
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: still have that comfort, and yeah, I just there's just

470
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: this outpouring of just loving kindness and comfort that I

471
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: received from him that you know, you get more of

472
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: the more that you seek him. So for me, I

473
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: was like, why why am I taking a break from this?

474
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: Why I liked what I was getting? Like, why am

475
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: I doing this instead of that? So, yeah, they're definitely

476
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows.

477
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes life just be life in right, like

478
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: it feels as though there's so many balls in the

479
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: air and you're doing what feels like the best you

480
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: can to juggle them, and in that act of the

481
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 3: juggling are change our patterns shit, And you have to

482
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 3: recognize that in those moments you are doing at least

483
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 3: what you hope to be the best you can with

484
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 3: what you have. I think that regardless of what your

485
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: faith is. The goal to center yourself and be able

486
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: to remove that value of identity based on either your

487
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: career or other ways that you might identify can be

488
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 3: really beneficial.

489
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. I agree.

490
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: I think who we identify ourselves to be is just

491
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 1: like it's like who we are, And yeah, I just

492
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to put my identity in something that was

493
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: more constant and that something didn't change, because my circumstances

494
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: change all the time. Like we like the sport. Our

495
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: sport is so crazy and unpredictable and anything can happen

496
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: and it's wild and we've seen that time and time again.

497
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: So so yeah, to me, there was just like there

498
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: was no choice but to you know, just continue to

499
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: grow and kind of go down, go down his path

500
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: and seek him more and more.

501
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: And I hope to continue to do that.

502
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

503
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: Something that my life coach always talks to me about

504
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: is the foundation of asking yourself how you want to

505
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 3: feel and allow that feeling to be the thing that

506
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: guides your decisions or your choices, which again easier said

507
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 3: than done, right, But for me, someone who has always

508
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: been similar to you, a little bit of a perfectionist,

509
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: really allowing my decisions to be rooted in like fact,

510
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 3: I am finding a lot of freedom and purpose and

511
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: excitement and allowing my emotions to be the thing that

512
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: guides me toward the right path.

513
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like our feelings and our emotions are

514
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: like they're important, they're valid and their gifts and it's

515
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: a way that like we need them to collect, to

516
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: connect with each other and you know, to connect with God.

517
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I just feel like, especially as as athletes,

518
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: like there's not you know, I feel like you see

519
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: the race, but you don't like you're not in the

520
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: athlete's head, so you don't know like all of the

521
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: emotions and feelings and like the conflicting thoughts that are

522
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: going back and forth on the line. But you know,

523
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: all those exist too, and I feel like as a

524
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: musician it's fun to like unpack those and to sing

525
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: about them. And I like Pedals to the Fire is

526
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: kind of about like my pre race, like back and

527
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: forth between confidence and just like not really being super confident.

528
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: But feelings are just they're so important, and I think

529
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: they're tools and we have them for a reason. And yeah,

530
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: they it's a double edged sword. Obviously, it can be

531
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: like depending on how you use them and how you

532
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: lean into them like it can be good or bad,

533
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: but but yeah, I just think they're so important.

534
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about the battle that happens

535
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: in your head wavering from super confident to what the

536
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: hell yeah is going on here? How do you manage

537
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: those thoughts and on understand that you have the opportunity

538
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: to respond to that.

539
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know it come it starts at

540
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: practice for me, like how I talk to myself at practice.

541
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: That's going to be how I'm going to talk to

542
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: myself in a race or at a meet like times

543
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: like a thousand So I practice, you know, when those

544
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: thoughts come that are you know, particularly doubtful, I just

545
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: I try and respond with like, okay, well what's true?

546
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: Like what's true is like I you know, I'm running

547
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: this distance. I know how to run this distance. I've

548
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: done it before, and sometimes it doesn't matter how I feel,

549
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: Like I can feel terrible that day and still run

550
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: the time that I need to. I don't know how

551
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: I did it, but I but I did it. So

552
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, like that's important too, And

553
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: then you know, I think it is important to have

554
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: that little bit of doubt in a sense, because I

555
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: also think it it forces you to be curious and

556
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: to keep going and to kind of like want to

557
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: like prove that like little voice wrong or at least

558
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: for me. So so yeah, I think it's it's important

559
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: to kind of have that battle back and forth and

560
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: to not like not sleep on yourself in a way,

561
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: don't sleep on anybody else, but also don't sleep on

562
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: yourself because you don't really know what you're capable of.

563
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I go back and forth all the time

564
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: of like I'm ready for this, uh like but I

565
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: don't feel like I like I slept that great or

566
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: like you know, like my legs don't feel super great.

567
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just like what whatever's winning is going

568
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: to be what's gonna win on the track that day.

569
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: So I try to make sure that, like, you know,

570
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: the more positive and life giving thoughts are what's winning

571
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: for me.

572
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: How would you say that the people that you surround

573
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: yourself play oh to the way.

574
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: That you speak to yourself, especially within.

575
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: Sport, Yeah, it plays a huge role. I'd say, Like

576
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: going back to high school and college, you know, there's

577
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: more team championships, so like there were a lot of

578
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: what are they that we just had this kind of

579
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: true where we would like write little like note cards

580
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: to each other. We'd have like kind of like secret

581
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: buddies where we'd just like you know, tell them like they're.

582
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: Ready for this. Da da da da.

583
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: So I think having that kind of like team element

584
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: and now it looks a little different. But like you know,

585
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: when I talk to my teammates at practice, everybody does

586
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: a really good job of like if somebody's like I

587
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: don't think I can do this or I'm not feeling

588
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: great today, like immediately there's another teammate that's like what

589
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: are you saying, Like you're totally capable, like you can

590
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: do this.

591
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: It just kind of like puts it into perspective.

592
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Today is not the day. You don't you have to

593
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: be super great. You have to be super great in

594
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: two weeks when you're towing the line. So today, you know,

595
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: you just take care of business and then you're ready

596
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: for the next thing. And there's so many different personalities

597
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: on our team where everybody's super confident, but it comes

598
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: from different angles where you kind of get like a

599
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. So yeah, the team dynamic plays

600
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: a huge role, huge role in that for sure, And yeah,

601
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm really blessed to be a part of a group

602
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: where it's like you're not in your own head all

603
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: the time. You're kind of like forced to interact with

604
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: other people and see what they're doing, so you kind

605
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: of build confidence off them too.

606
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's pretty it's pretty special.

607
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: And of course behind a good team is also a

608
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: good coach. You've been working with Danny for some time now.

609
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: Talk to me about how you've learned to settle in

610
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: with both his coaching style and what you think that

611
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: a good coaching style does for you as an athlete.

612
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Danny.

613
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: Danny's very methodical in his coaching and everything that he

614
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: does there's a reason for it and there's science behind it.

615
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: So it's taught me to like, like over the years

616
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: is just to like trust like whatever he's telling me

617
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: to do, I'm like, there's like a reason for it,

618
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: and sometimes I like it helps me to know exactly why,

619
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: so he'll explain it and it's like this scientific jargon.

620
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: We're like halfway through, I'm like, Okay, I feel like

621
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna work. So it's fine.

622
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: You're put.

623
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, like I understand it. I understand what he's saying.

624
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm like, okay, okay, okay, because yeah, he's

625
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: there's definitely a method to all the things that he does,

626
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: and even just the people that he brings in.

627
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 4: He's very methodical about too.

628
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: We have like an amazing athletic trainer Sarah, and nutritionist

629
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: doctor Kyle, and our sistant coach Julian, just like they

630
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: all are like one unit, and they're all very different,

631
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: but he was very intentional about those differences, so they

632
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: just become one really great unit. And usually when we

633
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: get to races, like all the work is done.

634
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: I think he was.

635
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: He was laughing at me at trials because we were

636
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: both kind of laughing, which I was like, Okay, I'm

637
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna ask him later why he was laughing,

638
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Like after the race, but because I went into the

639
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: call room and I don't think we like said anything

640
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: to each other. I think I would do a stride

641
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: and then I just be like, we're good. And then

642
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: I walked into the call room and I was like,

643
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: we're good, and I think all the other coaches were

644
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: like talking to their athletes and Danny was like, this

645
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: is all we've done.

646
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: The entire time, but it works.

647
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: So we're just doing thumbs up the entire time as

648
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: communication at the end. But he's like, I mean, all

649
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: the work is done. I've said everything I needed to say,

650
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: like you know, in the lead up. So he's like,

651
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: just you know, go go do you and see what

652
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. So yeah, it's pretty cool. There's

653
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: space for me.

654
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: Do you think that your faith has taught you how

655
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: to trust in other people?

656
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent, Because I like came into the

657
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: sport as a perfectionist and I didn't want any help

658
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: from anybody. I felt like I could do it all

659
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: by myself, and I got humbled real quick. God was like, no,

660
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: you need me, and you also need people to help you.

661
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: So I think that's been huge and I'm just so

662
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: blessed He's placed me and with these teams of people

663
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: that you know, they're it's a team, it's a group,

664
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: and yeah, we we just support each other and and

665
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: like carry each other's burdens, and you know, I had

666
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: to learn how to do that, and yeah, it's just

667
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: it's definitely played a huge role for sure.

668
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

669
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: I mean you signed in twenty twenty right after graduating

670
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: with Brooks. Talk to me a little bit about your

671
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: mental state at that point, how it felt to walk

672
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: away not all that long after getting your diploma and

673
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: have this contract on the table.

674
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

675
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: It was such a blessing to have had signed a

676
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: contract during that time. I think I ran like a

677
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: really fast time, like I was like point zero two

678
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: seconds off the NCAA record at the time, and then

679
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: the world just completely shut down after that, And it

680
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: was funny toeple like, oh, you'll get it at Nationals

681
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: or like maybe like if you don't get it at Nationals,

682
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: like outdoor, you're gonna break two. And then you know,

683
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: that didn't happen until like three years later. So I

684
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: think mentally at the time I was super crushed because

685
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: I just felt like there was just so much loss.

686
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: But but then there was also a new adventure and

687
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: going to Brooks and being a beast, and like immediately

688
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: just because of the nature of the times and everything

689
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: just kind of being shut down and everything, I had

690
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: to rely on my teammates. Like when I got there,

691
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: like I didn't have a driver's license, Like I stayed

692
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: with my teammates, I lived with them, and you know,

693
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: like the program was so there was so many moving

694
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: parts of the program and there were so many things

695
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: that I had to learn that like, you know, there

696
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: are different drill sets, and every day I'd be like, oh,

697
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: like I don't remember the drill set. And it was

698
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: really hard for me to be like I need help.

699
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: It's like the hardest thing to do is like ask

700
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: for help. And I felt like every day I was

701
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: asking for help, and you know, like they were all

702
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: super patient, and you know, everybody kind of like carried

703
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: me that first year, and the first year transitioning from

704
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: collegiate to pro is it's just really hard, Like it

705
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: just doesn't really matter who you are, Like I've seen

706
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: that with people that we've signed after me. It's just

707
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: a hard transition. So, yeah, it was just it was

708
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: a new adventure. It was fun, and I learned a

709
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: lot about how to dep on other people. And then

710
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, now I'm getting the opportunity and the chance

711
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: to pay it forward a little bit with the people

712
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: that we've been signing now that I'm on the other

713
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: end of it. But it's been Yeah, they they really

714
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: it helped me a lot to get to where to

715
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: get to where I needed to be for sure.

716
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: On the subject of asking for help, what did opening

717
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 3: yourself up to that ask to saying I don't have

718
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: all the answers?

719
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: What did that do for you? And how did it feel?

720
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was It felt really scary asking for help,

721
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: but you know, when I did, and when they you know, obviously,

722
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: like my teammates are incredible, and my coaches are also incredible,

723
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: Like they were more than willing to help me out,

724
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, and you know whether or not.

725
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: They were like oh this girl again, like like.

726
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know, like I didn't know any of that.

727
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: They just they just helped me, you know. So I

728
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: think it opened me to like a whole It's just

729
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: like a different world after that, because it wasn't like

730
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: I was doing everything on my own or like I

731
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of validation and I felt really good

732
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: about myself when I was like, man, I did that

733
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: all by myself, Like I didn't need anybody. I did

734
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: that by myself. But there's a different kind of there's

735
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: a humility that comes with Wow, I did this, and

736
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have been able to

737
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: do this if I didn't have help, you know. So

738
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: it just opened up a whole new world for me,

739
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: and it just taught me humility in a different form.

740
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I think that's a really beautiful way

741
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: to put it, and also a lesson that you can

742
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: only learn by asking for help. There is so much

743
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: personal gratification in being able to say something like I

744
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: did it myself. But when you take a step back

745
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: and you realize that you can achieve what you're after,

746
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: whether you go it alone or whether you have an

747
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: army standing behind you, when you get to that final destination,

748
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: it's arguably a little bit more fun and when you

749
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: have other people to celebrate with, right.

750
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's one hundred percent true. And you know it,

751
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: I know what it like, what it looks like when

752
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: we're out there racing. It's just like like it's just

753
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: us out there, and like you see the result and

754
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: it's just like my name next to the time and

755
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: the place. But it's like there's so many people behind me,

756
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: and there's also God behind me that's like brought me

757
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: to where I am today, you know, And and I

758
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: feel like that's the thing that people don't always like

759
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: get to see so much of. But but yeah, it's there,

760
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: and it's there for everyone, And I think that's the

761
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: really cool kind of like circle of life moment. From

762
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: last trials to this one was like last Trials, everybody

763
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: in Seattle was still so new, Like those were the

764
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: people that were behind me, but like they were all

765
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: so new, and like we just were dealing with something

766
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: that like nobody had ever dealt with before. Like they

767
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: didn't know how to comfort me because they'd never needed

768
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: to comfort me in that way before. So it was

769
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: like it really accelerated kind of the learning process for

770
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: all of us. And you know, I made mistakes, you know,

771
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: everybody kind of made mistakes during that time, but then

772
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, it took a few years, but now we're

773
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: here and you know, now we understand each other better.

774
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: And like twenty twenty four, I was like I had

775
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: the same people behind me, a few new faces here

776
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: and there, but like the same group of people behind

777
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: me that helped me get to where I am. And

778
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: it's just it's really special that we got to share

779
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: and that joy after the previous trials together, we yeah,

780
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: we all learned and you know, we all got to

781
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: celebrate together.

782
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 4: So it was fun.

783
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: When someone comes to your Instagram page, they see a

784
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: professional athlete who's heading to her first Olympics, and they

785
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: might also see a little bit about your songwriting. Beyond that,

786
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, what is it that

787
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: you see looking back at you?

788
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: I just see so much grace and love from g

789
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: from God when I'm looking at when I'm looking at me,

790
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I cannot believe I have all these things

791
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: attached to my name, and I just see them all

792
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: as gifts and all his blessings. So so yeah, I

793
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: just kind of like start there and and kind of

794
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: like center myself there and then yeah, it's just which

795
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: was really cool about and really special about this time

796
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: around is when the race was done at trials, I

797
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: just kind of like I forgot that, like the Olympics

798
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: is what we were running for. Like I just reached

799
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: a point where like I was just out there running

800
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm just going to do my

801
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: best and I'm not going to think too much about

802
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: about where I am and everything.

803
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: I just I just want to do the best that

804
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: I can.

805
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, and it just it kind of like comes

806
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: back to I just feel like I'm really proud of

807
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: where I where my identity is at right now, and

808
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: who it's centered around, and everything else is just kind

809
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: of gets added.

810
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: To that, which is really special.

811
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: So it's all just a bonus, right, It's.

812
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: All just a bonus.

813
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: What what what excites you right now? Aside from of

814
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: course the pending trip to Paris.

815
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm I'm most excited about the actual racing part,

816
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: which I was really nervous that I was going to

817
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: finish trials and like, if I, you know, made the team,

818
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Oh, I'm so excited to see top

819
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: croissants and go see the Eiffel Tower and like do

820
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: all the sight seeing stuff. But I'm like most excited

821
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: to race, which is super important and I'm like proud

822
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: of myself for But yeah, right now, I'm like, this

823
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: is another part of the journey, being in Albuquerque, So

824
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited to train a little bit more and and

825
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: have some fun along the way and and yeah, and

826
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: just there's a lot of it's very quiet here. There's

827
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: just especially after trials and the emotional high of trials,

828
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: just coming down to the high desert and training and

829
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: a really quiet environment. I think I'm really excited for

830
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: before you know, we go back into the into the

831
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: chaos and to.

832
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: The whirlwind that is the Games.

833
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, you had the opportunity when you moved across

834
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: the country to fall in immediately with a team. But

835
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: for those that may be thinking about whether or not

836
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: a new city is a good idea for them, do

837
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: you have anything to add, any words of comfort of

838
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: being able to make it on your own somewhere new.

839
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like for me, when I was looking

840
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: around and deciding where I wanted to go, I was

841
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: very intentional about like I you know, I had my

842
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: even diagrams and everything about which was which was better,

843
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: which where I think I'd be most happy. But truly, like,

844
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: I think the answer is like whatever you decide to do,

845
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: like wherever you decided to go, is to own it

846
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: and just really commit to that decision, like don't look

847
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: back and go all in for that decision and and

848
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: do your best where you're at and be patient because

849
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: sometimes it takes i'm to address, especially if you're doing

850
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: things by yourself, but it's been done before.

851
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just I don't know.

852
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: I just think whatever you decide to do is to

853
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: just really commit to it. I think is the most

854
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: important thing because usually usually what you're looking for is

855
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: already inside you. You just need a little bit of

856
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: support and to get there.

857
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like you always know, like you

858
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 3: always have a hunch on what the right decision or

859
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: the right move is for you. That's like why we

860
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: have what they call intuition, right, but oftentimes it's as

861
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: though we're looking for that third party to come in

862
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: and be like, yes, this is the right decision, but

863
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: you won't know until you try.

864
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

865
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: For me, I definitely like I definitely prayed over it.

866
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: The scariest thing is like a short story that happened

867
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: when I was making a decision was you know, I

868
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: prayed over it. And I had a video call with

869
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: Danny and just kind of like getting to know. It's

870
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: like the second or third one, and he goes off

871
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: on these tangents sometimes where he's just like talking about

872
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: stuff and I don't really know how he got there,

873
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: but he was talking about the Alchemist and he's like,

874
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever read this book before,

875
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: but it's like such a good book, and it was

876
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: going on and on and on about it, and I

877
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, like like something Emmy was like,

878
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: I do have a copy of the Alchemist, like I

879
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: should I should go read it, like reread it. I'm

880
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: always lending it out to people, and I was like,

881
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: I tore my room apart looking for it and I

882
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: couldn't find it. And I was like, man, I guess

883
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: I gave it to somebody. And this was during COVID,

884
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: so I was like, I have no idea who I

885
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: gave it to. And I was like, honestly really upset

886
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: about it that I couldn't find it. And then I

887
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: went for a run. I was like, I just need

888
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: to go for a run. So I went for a

889
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: run and I came back and I still don't know

890
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: to this day who I lent it to because I

891
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: was like texting people, but the Alchemist was on my porch,

892
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: like somebody had left it there.

893
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 4: It was the scariest thing.

894
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think went for the run.

895
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the day that I went for the run,

896
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: I came back and it was on the porch and

897
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna take this as a sign.

898
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was. It was crazy and I was

899
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: texting people. I was like, did I give this book

900
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: to you? Did you leave it back? And nobody like

901
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: texted me or left a no or anything, and I

902
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: had like highlights in it, so it was my copy too,

903
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: and it was yeah.

904
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: And then the next.

905
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: Day I had like there were like there were other

906
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: reasons why I wanted to go with Brooks. The next day,

907
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: the next day I signed my contract. I was like,

908
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm check yep, I think God approves.

909
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, that is absolutely wild talk about a sign.

910
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, Oh my gosh. Well, I am so glad

911
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: that we were able to carve out some time to connect,

912
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: especially as things are about to get really hectic for

913
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: you. You mentioned earlier the difficulties that came hand in hand

914
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: with getting so close to hitting such a special time

915
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: on the track and then the world shutting down right now,

916
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: knowing what you know now, if you had the opportunity

917
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: to offer yourself at that point a piece of advice

918
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: looking back on that hurdle moment, what would you tell yourself?

919
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: I tell myself to not get frustrated, be patient, because

920
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: it's just like, it just wasn't my time. It wasn't

921
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: my time yet I still had some growth to do,

922
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: and and yeah, I wouldn't change my journey for the world.

923
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: It was really hard, but I definitely knew at the

924
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: time that it wasn't my time yet I think when

925
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: it happened, I was like, you know, it's just not

926
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: my time. It might never be my time, and that's okay,

927
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I think at the time, I just, yeah,

928
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: I just wish I knew to not get frustrated because

929
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: that was I think that was where I lost a

930
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: lot of energy.

931
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so special to be able to look back on

932
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 3: that and know, especially with what we know now, you

933
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: going to your first games.

934
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm so amped for you for those.

935
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: So it's all along with you. Just yet, how do

936
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: they keep up with you? Give us the details.

937
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: My Instagram is my first and last name. I have

938
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: been kind of taking a step back away from it

939
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: this year, which unfortunately is one of the reasons why

940
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: I think I've been having a really good year. But

941
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: I know it's terrible comparison. Man, it's the thief of

942
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: joy sometimes. But yeah, I told myself I would be

943
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: a little bit more diligent for the games, just because

944
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, it only happens ever so often. And then

945
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm just started my own like nia Aigan's music, separate

946
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: from that, just so like, you know, if I want

947
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: to post about music, I just wanted to have like

948
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: a cohesive artsy vibe going, you know, and it's kind

949
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: of hard to do that with like track posts here

950
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: and there. So I was like, Okay, we're just going

951
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: to like separate the two and just see what happens.

952
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: If I hate it, I'll bring them back together. But yeah,

953
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: that's at Nia Aichen's music. And yeah, I think those

954
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: are the two prime, two prime things that I'm working.

955
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: On right now.

956
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am on Nia Aigens music. I can't wait

957
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: for all the vibes and I'm so excited to follow

958
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: along not only of course with you this summer, but

959
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: and beyond as that album is on deck.

960
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm over at emily A.

961
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: Bodi and at Hurdle Podcast Another Hurdle Conquered.

962
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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time