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Speaker 1: works dot com. Say everyone, and welcome to tech stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren, and today we have

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Speaker 1: a listener request via Facebook. This is from Tony. Yes.

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Speaker 1: He wrote in to say, would you please compare old

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Speaker 1: tiny camping gear, more upstate camping gear, and then some

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Speaker 1: of the leading edge ultra light stuff you know would

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Speaker 1: stay with us charge your titaniums for inflatable kayaks. So

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Speaker 1: some of those we are going to cover. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the first one we will definitely cover. The other two

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Speaker 1: will probably cover, and and maybe some other episode at

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Speaker 1: some point, maybe we'll do a full episode on titanium.

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Speaker 1: It should be interesting. But we we've got a whole

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Speaker 1: thing about camping to talk about before we get into

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Speaker 1: any of the gear. I'm gonna play the room a little.

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Speaker 1: I want to find out what our personal um opinion

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Speaker 1: would go camping? Uh? No, No, I mean basically not. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. I've got some friends who are into camping.

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Speaker 1: My roommates are very much into camping, and it has

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Speaker 1: been suggested as an extracurricular activity. To me, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not entirely against it. Uh. If I had a certain

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Speaker 1: number of creature comforts, like I would want to actually

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Speaker 1: be within easy distance of a shower, if I was

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Speaker 1: going to be out there within a couple for for

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Speaker 1: more than a couple of days, toilet would not be

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Speaker 1: rowed upon. Really fond of bathrooms in general, I like them.

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Speaker 1: I see where you're coming from, bog Obama on this.

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Speaker 1: We are simpatico when it comes to this. I have

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Speaker 1: camped in the past. Um, I have gone camping before,

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Speaker 1: and I am also I think I've just reached a

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Speaker 1: point where where the the joy of it is outweighed

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Speaker 1: by the inconvenience and the uncomfortable factor. I don't do

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Speaker 1: so well if I sleep on the ground these days,

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Speaker 1: I don't move so well. I'm celebrating a birthday today

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Speaker 1: as we're recording this podcast. At the age i'm at,

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Speaker 1: I don't bounce back the way I used to. But hey,

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, thank you, thank you. No I know you're

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Speaker 1: not on Mike, but I'm gonna I'm gonna ask, are

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Speaker 1: you are Do you enjoy going campinging? Noel says he

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Speaker 1: has not been camping since cub Scouts. So yeah, we're, um,

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Speaker 1: we're experts on the subject. Obviously he has stayed in

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Speaker 1: a yurt. Uh, that's fantastic. I once helped put up

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Speaker 1: I used to be part of the Society of Creative Anachronism,

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Speaker 1: the sc there's yurts of plenty. But yeah, and generally

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Speaker 1: don't really do well outside. I mean, yeah, we're we

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Speaker 1: are creatures that prefer the air conditioning, the shelter from

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Speaker 1: even a little bit translucent like some of those like

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Speaker 1: deep sea shrimp. Right. So yeah, so so, but we

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Speaker 1: can appreciate why people would want to go camping. Yes,

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Speaker 1: nature is beautiful and the idea of camping is something

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Speaker 1: that really appeals to me. It's just the reality. And also,

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Speaker 1: to be fair, we all are living in in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: That's like your your prime camping season and it could

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Speaker 1: be really hard to deal with. Yeah. But but anyway,

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Speaker 1: that being said, we wanted to talk about camping, look

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Speaker 1: the history of camping itself, because it's not that old

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Speaker 1: of recreational activity. When you talk about something that's really widespread.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there always have been adventurers and outdoorsmen and

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Speaker 1: Well sure, because people didn't really widely live in cities

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Speaker 1: these days, around forty seven million people in the United

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Speaker 1: is what I put in my notes. Um, yeah, I said,

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Speaker 1: my ideal camping situation is a hotel room with room service.

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Speaker 1: is not camping, because that's really annoying in first person

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Speaker 1: shooters ate strategy. All right, So we wanted to start

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Speaker 1: off by talking about tents. Um. You know, it's one

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Speaker 1: You need something to help keep the elements off of

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Speaker 1: I mean, anything with a basic pole structure and some

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Speaker 1: a tent with tasty snacks. Yes, because you know, some

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Speaker 1: So anyone who listened to our carbon Fiber podcast, you know,

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Speaker 1: So so those inflatable tubes take the take the role

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Speaker 1: the Wedge uh, and these are pretty cool. They're supposedly

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Speaker 1: where a woman is going to feel comfortable sleeping in

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00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: that temperature And they end up calling that the comfort level.

432
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: So then they say, all right, well, what's the lowest

433
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: temperature we can we can say that where a man

434
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: will be comfortable inside this uh sleeping bag, and that

435
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: one is called the lower limit rating. So you usually

436
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: see both ratings on a sleeping bag. So one, the

437
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: comfort level is all right, well, if it's you know,

438
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: thirty five degrees is the comfort level. Then it could

439
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: get down to thirty five degrees and your average woman

440
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: is going to be fine sleeping in the sleeping bag.

441
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: At the lower level is nineteen degrees, then it says

442
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: your average man is still going to be fine all

443
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: the way down to nineteen a woman maybe feeling very

444
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: uncomfortable or at least a little chilly between those two temperatures.

445
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: But then you also have was called the extreme rating,

446
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: and the extreme rating that's the temperature below which you

447
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: are in serious danger, even if you are inside the

448
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: sleeping bag. Really, it's based upon the lowest temperature a

449
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: woman can endure while inside that sleeping bag before saying

450
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: I'm getting a hotel room call me when this trip

451
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: is over, or getting hypothermia. That would also be another case. Yes,

452
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's interesting that even though it's a quote

453
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: unquote standard, it's still obviously based on subjectivity. There's not

454
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: like this hard and fast rule of saying, at this

455
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: temperature you're going to be absolutely comfortable. It's more like

456
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: it's more what they call guidelines if you want to

457
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: be all Barbosa about it, but uh, that is, if

458
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: you ever see that a sleeping bag is rated for

459
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: one of these temperatures. That's usually what it means. Most

460
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: of them are going by this standard. Some of them

461
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: may be going by their own kind of you know,

462
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: testing facility and surveys, but it's still basically the same

463
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: thing saying, how what temperature do people still feel comfortable

464
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: while in this sleeping bag. Um. And so you also

465
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: find sleeping bags that are meant for different types of

466
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: of environments. Like there's some that are the higher temperature ones,

467
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: which is usually thirty five degrees fahrenheit or or higher,

468
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: and that would be for things like people who want

469
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: to go camping in the spring and summer months. Then

470
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: you might have the multi purpose sleeping bags that are

471
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: good for between maybe like ten degrees fahrenheit thirty five

472
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit, and that's meant to be you know, a

473
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: little more versatile so that you can camp throughout the year.

474
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: And then you have the cold weather sleeping bags, which

475
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: are usually something between like minus ten degrees fahrenheit to

476
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: ten degrees fahrenheit UM, and that's meant for it. You know,

477
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: if you happen to be camping like in Minnesota in

478
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: the winter. You know, if you're crazy. Um, some of

479
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: you may be camping in Minnesota in the winter. I

480
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: don't really think you're crazy. I would be crazy to

481
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: do it. But anyway, those are your basic rules more

482
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: or less, so if you're ever looking for them, that's

483
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: what you want to look for. And all of these

484
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: temperature ratings have to do with the well again, with

485
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: material signs, with what the shell is made of and

486
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: what the filling is made of. Traditionally it was down

487
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: of various kinds, duck and goose duck and goose feathers,

488
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: and these days a lot of it is plastics. Yeah,

489
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: you get a lot of synthetics, and you get a

490
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: lot of um water resistant or water repellent down, so

491
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: regular down not necessarily water repellent. And that's well. It's

492
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: it's really warm, but it absorbs water like holy woe,

493
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: which means that if you're in a cold situation and

494
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: your down sleeping bag gets wet, it can become very

495
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: dangerous very quickly, because it might actually be sapping heat

496
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: away from your body, like you would be worse off

497
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: in it than you would be outside of it. And

498
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: some synthetics are the same way. That's why the water

499
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: repellent down material has been developed and UH and all

500
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: of these are called PHIL in the industry. So if

501
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: you ever see a PHIL power rating on a sleeping bag,

502
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: what that's telling you is essentially how effective the installation

503
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: is at capturing heat. And the way they determine this,

504
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool. It's called loft, I believe. But

505
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: the way they determine is they say how much space

506
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: would one ounce of this installation take? So if we

507
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 1: if we get an ounce of it and we just

508
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: let it because it's normal volume, how many cubic inches

509
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: does that take up? And the more space it takes up,

510
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: the more efficient UH insulator it is. And the lighter

511
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: your your sleeping bag is gonna because it doesn't need

512
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: as much material to fill it out, all right, So

513
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: the higher the number is, the better off you are.

514
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: So you might see film power numbers and right well,

515
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: and the lighter and the lighter the sleeping bag will be.

516
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: So a film power number of six hundred is gonna

517
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: be uh that that sleeping bag is gonna be heavier

518
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: than one that's rated at seven, which is gonna be

519
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: heavier than seven fifty or a hander. Assuming that you're

520
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: talking about two sleeping bags that have the same type

521
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: of film material in them, because obviously different materials are

522
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: going to weigh different amounts. But yeah, you want to

523
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: have the higher umber for it to be lighter. And

524
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, these can be rated for different temperature ranges

525
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: as well. But that's your general rule about sleeping bags.

526
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: So most of the time when you're hearing about high

527
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: tech sleeping bags, they're usually talking about whatever the insulation

528
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: material is and whatever the exterior material is, and whether

529
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: or not it's water repellent. How good it is that

530
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: retaining heat. I mean, the whole secret here is that

531
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: you want to separate the heat from the inside of

532
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: the sleeping bag from the outer environment. You don't want

533
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: that heat to be leached away. So that's what most

534
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: of the designs of sleeping bags are all meant to prevent.

535
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: It's really basic tech, but it's also really important tech. Alright,

536
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: what about backpacks, you know, those things that you carry

537
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: all your other stuff in. You want them to be

538
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: a lightweight. I guess, um it could be cool if

539
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: they maybe had some solar panels on them, because those

540
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: if you're hiking in the sun. Yeah. I actually used

541
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: to have a backpack the head of solar panel in it.

542
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: It was not a camping backpack. The one downside to

543
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: having a solar panel in your backpack is that it

544
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: does take up space because that solar panel, I mean,

545
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: obviously it needs to be connected to something or else

546
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: that electricity is not doing any good. Usually that's a

547
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: battery pack, which is one bulky and too heavy her.

548
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: So there is a bit of a you know, that's

549
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: something you gotta you gotta weigh, literally, you need to

550
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: weigh the importance of that element and whether or not,

551
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's really key for you to bring it along. Sure,

552
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: but you know, backpacks are yet again one of those

553
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: material science related things that improvements in the fabric and

554
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: the structure that these guys has let them get lighter

555
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: over the years. Right again, really important when you're hiking.

556
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: So now we're going to talk about the stuff what

557
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: you put into said backpack, Like we wanted to take

558
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: a look at some of the incredible gadgets that you

559
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: could carry with you. And because i mean, you know

560
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: old simately, when you get down to it, if you're

561
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: really roughing it, you essentially need a place to sleep,

562
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: a thing to sleep in to keep you warm at night,

563
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: and maybe some stuff to help you make a fire. Uh.

564
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: For our friends who want to know how to make

565
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: a fire, we have a treat for you, but that's

566
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: going to be another podcast. So one of the things

567
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: we wanted to look at was or what are some

568
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: of the cool gadgets that are available today that can

569
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: make camping a lot more comfortable? Yeah, maybe more convenient

570
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: for those of us who just can't let go of

571
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: our electronic society. And I am mainly talking about myself here,

572
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: And the first one I wanted to talk about is

573
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: one that is so cool that I'm tempted to buy one,

574
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: even though I don't think I will ever willingly go

575
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: camping ever again. And it's a camp stove, specifically the

576
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: one I was looking at, and there are different ones,

577
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: but the one that gets repeated multiple times throughout the

578
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: internet is the bio light uh camp stove, And the

579
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: bio light camp stove is cool. It think of it

580
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: as a camp stove where you can you twigs in it,

581
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: and then you light a fire and you use those

582
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: twigs to help heat the stove and then you can

583
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: cook things on top of the stove. You can get

584
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: one that has a grill surface and actually grill on

585
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: the very top of it, So it sounds like a

586
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: pretty basic portable grill, except that it also happens to

587
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: have a fan powered generator attached to it, so that

588
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: the heat from the fire will turn the fan, which

589
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: will then generate electricity, allowing you to charge electronics on

590
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: your through your stove. I mean not on your stove.

591
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: You wouldn't melt that. That's a terrible idea that you

592
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: can connect a USB cord to this stoves power outlet

593
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: and actually charge your your electronics while you cook. And

594
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: it takes about four and a half minutes from what

595
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: I read to boil a pot of water, and you

596
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: get about maybe twenty minutes at charging in a typical

597
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: cooking scenario. So it's not like you get it's not

598
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: like you're gonna reach out your entire you know, phone,

599
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: but it will extend your battery going a little longer.

600
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: And you know, if you use if you're supplementing that

601
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: with other means to keep your stuff, uh supplied with

602
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: a charge and every little bit helps, right. Um. I

603
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: wanted to talk for a minute about handwarmers, which are

604
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: really more chemical tech than straight gadgetry tech, but I

605
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: think that they're really cool. So you've got both single

606
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: use and rechargeable or multi use handwarmers. And the single

607
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: use ones are just these little pouches that contain iron, powder, water,

608
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: and salt, which together will react with oxygen when the

609
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: packet is exposed to air. It's an exothermic reaction, which

610
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: means that it creates heat and kind of as a

611
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: byproduct in this case rust iron oxide, right. And they

612
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: usually also contain an absorbent or absorbent material to to

613
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: hold onto the water until it's needed for the reaction,

614
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: and also activated carbon to help disperse the heat. So

615
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: those are the single use ones once you know, once

616
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: they they warm up pretty well, but once they're done,

617
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: they're done forever. You gotta toss it. You can't recharge

618
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: that in any way. You cannot know. The multiese ones

619
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: though they're really cool. Wait wait, if you have a handwarmer,

620
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: how can it be cool, Lauren? That sounds like it

621
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: doesn't work at all. So they're these sealed pouches of

622
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: supersaturated saline solutions, usually sodium acetate and water is the

623
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: solution that they're made of. And this stuff is really stable.

624
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: It's really happy to exist as a liquid way below

625
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: it's freezing point and or its crystallization point, because it

626
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 1: does that thing um that crystallization or freezing point happens

627
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: to be a hundred and thirty degrees fahrenheit or fifty

628
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: four degrees celsius, which you know is way above room temperature. Yes,

629
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: that's that's quite warm. That's significantly about it. Right, So

630
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: it's happy hanging out as a liquid at room temperature.

631
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: But this pouch that contains it also contains this little

632
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: disclike gidget that secrets away a couple of crystals of

633
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: sodium acetate from the rest of the liquid. And when

634
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: you manipulate that disk by kind of popping it, the

635
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: crystals hit the liquid and seed this really quick crystallization process. Now,

636
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: since a solid a k a. The crystal, the frozen

637
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: version of this stuff is a lower energy state than

638
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: a liquid, that energy of it going from a liquid

639
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: to a solid very quickly has to go somewhere and

640
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: it's released as heat. Right Because as we know, you

641
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: can't create or destroy energy, but you can convert it

642
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: from one form to another, right, and then you can

643
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: recharge this kind of pack by boiling it in water

644
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: for for maybe ten minutes. You have to melt all

645
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: of the crystals and a couple of seed crystals will

646
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: stay in the disk, and then you can so you

647
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: can just keep using it until there are no more

648
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: seed crystals left in that disk, and then you might

649
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: have to get a new one. You can you can

650
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: use it until you basically break the bag. Got it.

651
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: You will never run out of seed crystals because the

652
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: way that the disk is formed, it will it will

653
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: just kind of hide a couple when the rest of

654
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: it gets That's really cool. Wow, I never now I've

655
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: fallen into the whole handwarmer cool problem. So, speaking of water,

656
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: water filters obviously very important if you're going to be

657
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 1: comping someplace you want to you want to clean source

658
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: of water, both for drinking and for cooking with, and

659
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: so water filters and purifiers, I mean, there are a

660
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: ton of them out there. Some of them are very simple.

661
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: They might use you know, essentially carbon to like a

662
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: charcoal type filter for you to filter water through. Yeah,

663
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: you might just fill it up and it takes like

664
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: a minute for it to filter through and then you

665
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: get filtered water on the other end. Some of them

666
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: are more active than that. They don't just have a

667
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: passive system that water flows through. For instance, I've seen

668
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: a few that end up using a UV purification lights,

669
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: so ultra violet light, and that's because ultra violet radiation

670
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: can kill microbial, nasty stuff. And the one I saw specifically,

671
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: you would turn the lamp on and then agitate the water,

672
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: meaning you shake it for about a minute, and then

673
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: that ultra violet light should pretty much kill off anything

674
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: that happens to being water. You first would filter the

675
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: water before you would pour it into the bottle, because

676
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, you want to get rid of anything macro first,

677
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: like you know, maybe I don't want to put a

678
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: fish in here or something crawdaddy until I grew up

679
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: in the South, uh. And then you use the UV

680
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: to get rid of all the little microbial stuff that's

681
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: pretty neat. And in fact, that's one of those that

682
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: I looked at a lot of websites that had lists

683
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: of gadgets that you would want to take with you

684
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: on camping trips, like the high tech stuff, and that

685
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: was one of the ones that popped up over and

686
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: over again, presumably uh, written by people who actually go

687
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: camping as opposed to myself. Well, clean water is really good.

688
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: You know. Another kind of low tech way of doing

689
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: it is you can always boil your water for a

690
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: good long time. Might not necessarily taste great, but at

691
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: least you've killed off anything that would potentially do you harm.

692
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: So but yeah, that's always also a very important thing

693
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: to keep in mind. If you don't have one of

694
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: these filter things handy, you still want to take precaution obviously,

695
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: but or just dunking your head in the nearest water

696
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: source and drinking deep uh or deeply, I should say.

697
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: Then we have solar powered charging stations in general. There

698
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: are a lot that are, you know, handheld. There's some

699
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: that you end up fanning out, and I've seen one

700
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: that looks like a like a large cell phone and

701
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: then it ends up having this sort of three panel

702
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: pedal thing where you just fold the little bits out yep,

703
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: and then you just put it on some some surface

704
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: that is exposed to sunlight and you let it charge.

705
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: Most of them have battery packs, so you're not charging

706
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: directly from solar panel to your device you or or

707
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: you could, but you also can charge the onboard battery

708
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: to save it for later. There's also the good old

709
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: classic hand crank yep, man, I've got one of those, actually, yep,

710
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: I have one of those. It's kind of an emergency

711
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: radio slash genera. And most of those you give it

712
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: a good cranking for like thirty seconds to a minute,

713
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: and then you may know it's pretty vigorous. I mean,

714
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: you have to do a lot of kinetic work. It's

715
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: it's converting kinetic energy into electrical energy, and you've gotta

716
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: do a lot of work in order for you to

717
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: get even a little bit of electricity out. But it

718
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: might be enough electricity for you to do something like

719
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: syndequate text message, which could be the difference between life

720
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: and death depending upon your situation. So there are a

721
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: lot of different companies that make these. Um Swiss Army

722
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: Uh company that is famous for the Swiss Army knives

723
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: also makes stuff like this or partners with people who

724
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: do make stuff like this. I used to see them

725
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: at ces every year. I'd see these different cool emergency

726
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: kits that include a hand crank charging station along with

727
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: usually the hand crank charging station is also something like

728
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: a lantern and a radio, and I don't know a

729
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: tour guide. I mean they got kind of crazy eventually,

730
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: but and spraining eat stuff. Then I also saw fuel cells. Wait,

731
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: camping fuel cells. Yeah, actual fuel cells. There's one called

732
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: the power Trik and it's it's light enough for you

733
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: to carry like you can either clip it on the

734
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: outside of your back pack or actually carry it inside

735
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: your backpack. And it uses little hydrogen pucks. Now a

736
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: fuel cell. Brian herd Is talk about them before, but

737
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: in case you're not familiar, fuel cells use hydrogen and oxygen,

738
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: and uh, you know those those two elements like to

739
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: combine into this stuff we call water. But let's say

740
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: you've got a chamber filled with hydrogen and oxygen. You've

741
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: separated them with a membrane, and the membrane only allows

742
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: hydrogen through. If it's an ion, meaning that it's shed

743
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: its electron, then you can channel those electrons to do

744
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: work before they recombine on the other side, where the

745
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: hydrogen ions, the oxygen and then the electrons coming in

746
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: all conform water. So that's your basic fuel cell and

747
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: power check is that's basically what it is. The little

748
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: hydrogen pucks contain hydrogen gas, which combined with oxygen, you

749
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: get some electricity and a little bit of water vapor

750
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: as the byproducts, and you can charge your electronics using that.

751
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you want to be super high tech,

752
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: carry a fuel cell with you. Um and fortunately the

753
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: hydrogen oxygen fuel cells can operate at temperatures that are

754
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: comfortable to us. A lot of fuel cells, when you

755
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: get into the industrial level, have to be heated up

756
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: to temperatures that are you know, not conducive to living

757
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: for humans. So fortunately this is not one of those.

758
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: It would not be a very good camping accessory otherwise. No,

759
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: on the slightly less ridiculously high tech level, keeping showers,

760
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean, because anyone can construct a shower in a

761
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: camp by putting some water in a bag and hanging

762
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: it from a tree and kind of letting it dripped

763
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: down on you poke a hole into the bag of

764
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: some sort. Yeah, but if you want to go a

765
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: little bit more high tech than that. The other a

766
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: couple of different options. I saw one where it was

767
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: one that could fold up into a very small case

768
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: so that you can actually you know, carry it in

769
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: one hand. But then of course when you fill it up,

770
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: you'd hang it from like a tree or something. Let's

771
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: sit in the sun. The sun heats up the water

772
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: and then you've got a nice warm shower so you're

773
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: not you're not freezing while you take your shower. But

774
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: there's another some other ones I saw where it actually

775
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: includes inflatable bladders that are inside the bag that holds

776
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: all the water. So you fill it up with water,

777
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: you leave it on the sun, you let it get

778
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: nice and warm, and then you go and use like

779
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: a foot pump or a hand pump to pump up

780
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: the bladders, the inflatable bladders that are inside this this

781
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: back to you push the water out at you slightly more. Yeah,

782
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: it's like a pressure rise shower. Yeah, so it ends

783
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: up being a little bit more of a shower experience

784
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: and not just using gravity to pull the water down.

785
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: Because I mean, these days are behind me, but back

786
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: when I used to wash my hair, obviously, um, you

787
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to rinse out something like soap or

788
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: shampoo out of your hair very effectively if you don't

789
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: have any water pressure. Anyone who's had to deal with

790
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: that and knows what I'm talking about, So that was

791
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: the way of getting around that. It's actually a pretty

792
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: low tech but creative solution to that problem. Um. Also

793
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: very important is to have some sort of GPS receiver,

794
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: whether that is your phone or its own receiver. There

795
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: are a lot of receivers out there that are very

796
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: good at just barely sipping power so you can carry

797
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: it on a longer trip, and really simple ones that

798
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: you know aren't you're not doing a whole lot with,

799
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: but can at least just give a ping and tell

800
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: someone where you are right and keep you informed of

801
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: where you are as well, so that way you know,

802
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: you might notice if you're heading toward an area whether

803
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: there isn't an easy source of water or something along

804
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: those lines. Very important. Two way radio is also really important. Usually, uh,

805
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, I always recommend if people are going to

806
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: go camping or hiking to do it with a friend,

807
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, and also to let people know when you're

808
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: going to do it. Yeah, this is I did an

809
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: episode on geo Cashing years ago and that was one

810
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: of those basic rules is let people know when you're

811
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: going to go out and do something. Certainly someone knows

812
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: where you are, and there are ways to stay safe

813
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: when you're solo camping. Yeah, but it involves a lot

814
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: of planning and a lot of know how and a

815
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: lot of telling people where you're going to write, just

816
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: in case that, you know, something unexpected happens, like maybe

817
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: some bad weather makes it very difficult for you to

818
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: make your way back to your vehicle or something on

819
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: those lines. Anyway to a radio is very useful. There

820
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: are a lot of really advanced ones out there on

821
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: the market now. I mean back in the day, uh

822
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: you would have limited range and limited battery life, but

823
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: now we've got some that are very battery conscious and

824
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: can operate up to thirty five miles apart if you

825
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: have a good clear line of sight. Obviously, if you

826
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: are in a deeply wooded area and you're both in

827
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: separate valleys, that's probably not going to be as as effective,

828
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: but thirty five miles is pretty significant, and a lot

829
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: of them will also allow you to tune into other

830
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: radio stations, not just a communications channel, but perhaps something

831
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: like a weather report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric

832
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: Administration or NOAH. A lot of those, in fact, the

833
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: hand cranks that I was talking about earlier, the ones

834
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: that are often radios and lanterns, a lot of those

835
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: also have that kind of capability, so that you can

836
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: check FM a M radio and and no, uh, very

837
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: important when you're out there by yourself or even you know,

838
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: with a couple of other people, just to let you

839
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: know if a storm's coming. Digital binoculars. These are awesome.

840
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: I think, of course, we're all familiar with what they

841
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: can do from the documentary Star Wars and New Hope.

842
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: When sand people are coming toward you and they're walking

843
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: in a single file, you know, to hide their numbers,

844
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: it's important for you to be able to spot them

845
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: from a long way away. Also, these things often have

846
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: video recorders in them, so you can look at you know,

847
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: interesting wildlife and actually record what you're seeing. And some

848
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: of them have um multiple cameras, like two cameras like

849
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: you're you know, essentially it's mimicking your eyes, which means

850
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: that the images they record are three dimensional. You can

851
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: play it back in three D. Then you've got survival tools.

852
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: Multi tools very useful because they pack a lot of

853
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: utility into a very compact form factor, relatively compact. So

854
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: I've seen some that get a little bit on the

855
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: ridiculous side. Okay, yeah, there's some where, like you know,

856
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: I think I've seen like the the Ultimate Swiss Army Knife,

857
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: which has every singlement, it's every single attachment that Swiss

858
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: Army Knife Company has ever done, and it just looks ridiculous.

859
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: You know, you need like two people to hold it up.

860
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: It's like a baseball bat essentially. Yeah. But but your

861
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: typical multi tool has things that would become really handy

862
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: when you're out there in the woods, like perhaps a

863
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: fire starter and you know, something like a flint and steel,

864
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in our our Pyro episode. Yes,

865
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: we we have not talked in this entire episode about

866
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: fire starting technology because that that has its whole own episode.

867
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: We're doing that immediately after we record this one. We're

868
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: kind of looking forward to it. I've seen some that

869
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: have things like a way of alerting people if you're

870
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: in distress, usually a whistle. One of the ones I

871
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: looked at was able to produce a tone of a

872
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: hundred decibels, which is pretty loud. Yeah, when you get

873
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: above eighty five decibels, that's about the that's the level

874
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: of safe, So one hundred it's men to be that loud,

875
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: so that if you are truly in distress, you are

876
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: alerting people that this is a problem. And they need

877
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 1: to try and find you, and obviously that is gonna

878
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: be much louder than you crying out for help, right, absolutely,

879
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: although although I do have to say so you could

880
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: say that that particular gadget has bells and whistles. Nice, yes,

881
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: you could say that, or at least as the whistle part.

882
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: So yeah. I've also seen them that have compass knives.

883
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: I wrote multiple knives because I know how to spell. Uh.

884
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: Signal mirror that's a very low tech but very useful

885
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: led lights. They might have wire or cord or other

886
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: kind of things that allow you to secure stuff to

887
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: other stuff, which comes in handy and survival scenarios, and uh,

888
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: you know other things too, you like some of them

889
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: have things like fish hooks that kind of stuff. It

890
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: all depends upon the individual tool, but uh, and I've

891
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: seen these worked into things like um, hiking poles, where

892
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: use a pole to to help you maintain your balance

893
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: and keep you going even when you're hiking in rough terrain.

894
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes those have survival tools built into the handles, which

895
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: are pretty cool too. Any the person who loves spy

896
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: gadgets is going to love that kind of camping tech

897
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: because it's all about conserving that space and weight, which

898
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: often means that it looks like it must be made

899
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: for spies because everything's folded away in these little secret compartments.

900
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: That's always neat. But there's something low tech. Yeah, sometimes

901
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: really low tech is best. There are those survival bracelets

902
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: you guys might have seen, which are woven of incredibly

903
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: strong uh not yarn tech, yarn wire wire something to

904
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: that sent chord probably yes, thank you, uh that that

905
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: you can use in in any number of survival situations.

906
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: And also, hey, analog maps, maps that are on paper

907
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: or perhaps some kind of plastic. The great thing about these,

908
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: you guys, is that they don't run out of bad right,

909
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: nor nor do they have some sort of system crash

910
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: where you have to You never get a blue screen.

911
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,959
Speaker 1: You don't have to reset your map. Yeah. Yeah, things

912
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: may have changed since the map was made, but probably

913
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: not so significantly that you can't you know, can't make

914
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 1: use of the map. If you're looking at a map

915
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: of like this is Pangaea, probably not going to be helpful. Yeah,

916
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: be careful which map you pack. Also, I mean, if

917
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: you pack a map of end Or its probably not

918
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: gonna not gonna be helpful, but I just wanted to

919
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: put that out there. You know, sometimes you might want

920
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: to bring one of those. In fact, in general, I

921
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: would always recommend bringing one of those along, definitely. Yeah.

922
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: So there's there's some cool stuff out there that you

923
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: can you can take with you if you're a camping

924
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: enthusiast and you want to be able to maybe trick

925
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: out your your camp site a little bit more with

926
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: some high tech stuff, maybe something like that that that

927
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: camp stove I talked about earlier. Uh, those things can

928
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: be you know, they can make your experience a little

929
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: more comfortable. Uh for people who say, well, that's not

930
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: real camping, obviously you can go as as as rough

931
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: and ready as you want someone like me. Um, not

932
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but if it did happen, it's gonna be

933
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: as comfortable. I mean, I'm gonna have an inflatable pad

934
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: to sleep on. I'm gonna have probably an air conditioned tent.

935
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just gonna happen to be I think

936
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: that if it's getting you out there, then it's kind

937
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: of beautiful. Yeah. So, uh, you know, until Google Earth

938
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: has every square inch of the planet completely maps, so

939
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: that way I can just virtually go there. Obviously, once

940
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: in a while I'm going to have to drag my

941
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: carcass out into nature and see what's going on. Seriously though,

942
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: I mean I joked about this on Facebook while I

943
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: was doing the research, but it really is true. As

944
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: I was looking at these gadgets, it made me want

945
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: to get a few of them and actually go camping.

946
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: The only thing that keeps me from doing that is

947
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: knowing that once I'm in that situation, I'll be questioning

948
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: my sanity. But but it makes me want to do it.

949
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: And again, it's because the idea of amping is so

950
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: it's nice, it sounds peaceful, yeah, and then you get

951
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: to you get to appreciate landscapes that we who live

952
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: in cities don't see that frequently. The opportunity to observe wildlife,

953
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: that feeling of of being able to just get away

954
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 1: from everything then obviously has its place. And I would

955
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: be lying if I said that it was not at

956
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: all attractive to me. Certainly it is. I just uh,

957
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: I know my limitations, is all, all right. So, if

958
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: any of you guys out there are really into camping,

959
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: and maybe there's some kind of tech that you were

960
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: really hoping we would cover like something that you think

961
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: is either indispensable or just awesome. Let us know, because again,

962
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: we're not the camping experts right. Also, if any of

963
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: these have piqued your interest and you would like us

964
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: to go and do perhaps a full episode on them,

965
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: let us know that too. Yeah, and guess what. You

966
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: can use our email address tech stuff at how stuff

967
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,920
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968
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,840
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969
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,520
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970
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: tex stuff HSW to connect with us and we will

971
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,319
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972
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