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Speaker 1: For your reading bosses? For like another forty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: If you know, you know, World War two nineteen Steps

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Speaker 2: This is the description in the book Millie Bobby Brown's

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Speaker 2: Pop Propulsive that I'm learning that word for the first

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Speaker 2: Definitely, No, I mean Nelly is the protagonist, and Nelly is.

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Speaker 1: Similar name to both Millie and Bobby if you will,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Brown, the makeup Empire. Vote.

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Speaker 1: You should have let her go. There's too many bombs

437
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: fun in London these days. You think I don't know

438
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: that Nelly snapped. You should mind your business. The arrogance

439
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: of him trying to tell her what to do, and

440
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: so she's been so like, I'm sassing back this American.

441
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: But also he has strong arms and he saved me

442
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: from a van, and then he also did run after

443
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: a bus with me when I'm saving my sister, and

444
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: it's very like, Okay, so you're a girl boss who's

445
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: the assistant to the mayor, but you're also like a

446
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: damsel in distress. And then later that night it turns

447
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: out she's a really good singer and she like sings

448
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: for the whole pub to rack type piano, and so

449
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: I just like, okay, so you were like this like

450
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 1: beautifully fragile, like feminine artiste Lnental Ray who's like captivating

451
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: the entire pub, but you're also a sassy girl boss

452
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: who's not taking shit from anybody. No.

453
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: And there's this line here where she's like warning him

454
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: about like the coffee is gonna taste like.

455
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: Chickory, the chickery coffee.

456
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: Wait, okay. They went to a nearby Lions cornerhouse, busy

457
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: with people who run inside to shelter from the sudden rain,

458
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: classic ducking in because of rain, big trench coats. Imagine

459
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: a London The coffee will be chickery, you know, she

460
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: warned him. Yeah, I kind of like it, though I've

461
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: gotten used to the nutty, Roman woody flavor Oh look,

462
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: they got lemonade. That's what I'll have and a scone.

463
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: He's Joe Patch now.

464
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: He's like, gee, will itchers. I love lemonade. For a

465
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: girl to just be like.

466
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: Be careful, it's chickery.

467
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, this coffee is kind of weird. It's a New

468
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: Orleans style.

469
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: Yes, No, it is hervy like quirky, like sorry, like

470
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: I'm a quirky, fragile girl boss who's like so fucking

471
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: quirked up, like we do it chickery style here. I

472
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: know that's gonna freak you the fuck out.

473
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, club, it's crazy that you said I don't know

474
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: about World War Two when both of my grandfather's serve.

475
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: I guess I.

476
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: Don't think I know about their surface, so like you

477
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: don't think I honored their surface.

478
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: But so you know who like the OXSS powers are, yeah,

479
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: and the all I did learn about that, And I

480
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: guess that's just something I'd kind of imagine that your

481
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: high school didn't cover because you guys were just only

482
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: doing like the history of cereal and then like flower

483
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: box making.

484
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: Did you learn about the Vietnam War? Was that only

485
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: my more progressive? Were you guys afraid actually to learn

486
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: about the Vietnam War.

487
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: No, obviously they were so like, we're not teaching about

488
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: American losses, We're only learning about victories.

489
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, who is in the fucked up school?

490
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Now? Okay?

491
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: But no, I had never heard of this like train accident.

492
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: Well no, I mean I didn't know about that either.

493
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: But and this is the thing about things that make

494
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: the government look bad, as they all covered effort, and

495
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: it would took a very long time in reality for

496
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: this particular disaster to even come to light because, as

497
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: we discover in the book, the Home Office sort of

498
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: lays the blame at the town council, at the Bethnal

499
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: Green town.

500
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: Councils, Green Town Hale.

501
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: Even though they had requested money for repairs.

502
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: And Nellie was doing our office girl, she was doing

503
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: that paperwork, and it's so like, have you looked at

504
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: my submission for the subway repairs? Have you looked at

505
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: my submission?

506
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: Well, you know, And it made me think about Grenfel Tower,

507
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: that like tower block that like burned down a few

508
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: years ago in London, and it was like such a

509
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: thing where it's like guests who lived there are like

510
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: poor people. And then it was like you know in Nuai.

511
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: In this like, there's a district in Masse where a

512
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: few years ago there's a building collapse many people died. Also,

513
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: very poor, crowded neighborhood. Made me think of that building

514
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: on Second Avenue that exploded when like a conadline burst.

515
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone was like check your gas, and it's

516
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: kind of like.

517
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: Mmm, I like remember there was just a huge hole

518
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: on that block for like years, and then they finally

519
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: built like new condos over it. Now there's like a

520
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: little plaque there where you walk by, and it's just

521
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: like these two people died, and I'm like, I wonder

522
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: if the people live in there, do they even know

523
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: how haunted it is?

524
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not move into a rebuilt condo, but.

525
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure they didn't tell them that when they moved.

526
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: It's some girl from fucking Indiana moves here.

527
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: She doesn't know no, and she's starting off jewelry business,

528
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: a jewelry buyer if you well with nay guy.

529
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: But then it's like and then you don't know what

530
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: haunted things happen in your building.

531
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: Well, I do know that a guy below me to

532
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: get like murdered a few years ago. So yeah, it's

533
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: really sad. It was a gang than where is like

534
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: in the building. Yeah, they were like going for another guy,

535
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: but the dad opened the door and they shot the dad.

536
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: So but when we moved, we were like, wait, the

537
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: rent is so cheap, like wop, what's the catch?

538
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: And the apartment's so big wait And it was like

539
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: the apartment like below yours.

540
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like on the floor below.

541
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe not directly below, so the ghost isn't like

542
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: right there.

543
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: It was the second or third floor. Yeah, it's just

544
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: the ghost start close. And I only learned that, like

545
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: I would feel like a year after moving in or

546
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: so because our real estate agent does like live on

547
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: the floor or whatever. The woman who shows the apartment

548
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 2: like lives on my floor.

549
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: And she finally revealed you.

550
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: Well revealed in this is very nelly and things getting

551
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: hidden in the town hall because there was all these

552
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: complaints about male being stolen.

553
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: And she was like, oh, it's not truly the ghost.

554
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: Well she was being like, well, the reason why like

555
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: no one wants to like really investigate is because it's

556
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: like there's a gang affiliation or something, and I don't know,

557
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: no one wants to kind of push.

558
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Buttons, right, because they don't want to get murdered. Yeah,

559
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm going to get to the bottom

560
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: of this and I will get justice for my neighbor acup.

561
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: Also I will get restorative mediation.

562
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: We get mediation for folks in my building.

563
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, huh, maybe I actually don't want to know

564
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: if someone was murdered in my building. When I moved in,

565
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: there were rabbit droppings under my radiator in my bedroom.

566
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: So I'm just like.

567
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: How did you know that? Because they were like more pellet.

568
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were Pellett vibes, not that I.

569
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 2: Feel like, is some just bushwick girl having a rabbit?

570
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. So I'm haunted by this,

571
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: like quirked up rich Wood girl. I think she's so

572
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: esoteric for having a fucking rabbit.

573
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: You're haunted by Nelly Nelly with a rabbit.

574
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of is a little bit Nelly

575
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: slashed Milly to have a rabbit.

576
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Milly having four tinyes dogs. I guess that's

577
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: also so celebrity.

578
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so parasiltan.

579
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: I want to get into us watching Stranger Things for

580
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: the first time ever.

581
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Okay, last night and doing research for this role of

582
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: reading a novel by Millie Bobby Brown to sort of

583
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: flesh on my understanding of her in her over by

584
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: watching this show that I have resisted watching for years because,

585
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: as you know, in my contrarian I don't like watching

586
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: things that are popular, and stranger things always reeked to

587
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: me of the worst kind of things. And I'm like,

588
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: it's retro. Everyone loves how like retro it is, and

589
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: it's just so like Zeno lunchbox culture.

590
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: And I resisted watching it. Not because I'm a contrarian

591
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: and I do love the eighties and I do love

592
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: Winona Rider.

593
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: But like and you are so zena lunchbox and I.

594
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: Am Zeno lunchbox. But I don't like things not of

595
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: this world, yes, stranger things, fantasy, and I think like

596
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: years ago, I may have watched the first episode with

597
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: all the hubbub surround in it, and I was like,

598
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: let me check it out, and I was kind of like,

599
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: m there was like, you know, creatures. I was a

600
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 2: little bit late, not for me, but I fired up

601
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: episodes one and two, and I gotta say I was

602
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: kind of into it.

603
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Wait same here, and I was like, Okay, Okay, so

604
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: it's very Spielbergian if I may.

605
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's eighties, it's Spielberg. It's also whinowna Riders like

606
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: level that she's at in the entire series is the

607
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: level she's at when she's managing in Garoffalo and Reality Bites,

608
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: like she's always freaking out and.

609
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: She's on an eleven of just being like of jittery.

610
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: Here's my son.

611
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cigarette acts.

612
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: Because it's like it's the eighties. We all smoke, and

613
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: it's so like fifties.

614
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: But I guess it's like Indiana and its people are

615
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: more smoky there.

616
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. And I remember hearing so much about

617
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: the character Barb, and people are like justice for Barb.

618
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: So Barb. Everyone is just like, yeah, we've seen stranger things.

619
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: Oh wait, okay, like the lesbian friend.

620
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she gets taken by the stranger thing. But

621
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: more I was like, wait, so what is Millie Bobby

622
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: Brown's Dylan. Her thing in this is being so cult

623
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: shaved tad.

624
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: She's like this non binary nine year old, like fam

625
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: sexy model. It's like she is also being so like oops,

626
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: I scrape my knee, but I am fragile, but I

627
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: am she's like a girl boss like telekinesis like government Monster.

628
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: Game is eleven, like I'm eating a burger really fast,

629
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: but also like winking and hanging out with three guys.

630
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: No, I mean she literally is being like, sorry, I'm weird.

631
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: You probably won't get chickory coffee, and it's kind of like,

632
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't know you're thinn in a big T shirt.

633
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: It's actually not that weird.

634
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: Eleven year old Milliboby round or whatever. She's probably fourteen

635
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: in the first season, it's like she looks so boristo.

636
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean she is that meme when the

637
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: non binary barrista turns the iPad around for you to

638
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: tip and they're just giving you that really and you're like,

639
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: oh am I tipping two sixteen on.

640
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: This six fifty seven and now it's a nine to

641
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: twenty eight. And then there's being like, join our loyalty

642
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: club for one to five percent cash back.

643
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: Okaywait can I tell you Mastory? So I watch Danger

644
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: Things Not on Netflix on Say It with Me.

645
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: DVD DVD because so random.

646
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Some all got like logged out of Netflix as Netflix

647
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: is being so like, looks like you're not in your household.

648
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: I thought household was like a metaphor for being like.

649
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: They changed that, and it's like, actually you have to

650
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: ask your mommy to like pay more now.

651
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: Which is so insane. It's like, hello, Ohanna means family,

652
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: Like I should be allowed to just use my mom's account,

653
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 1: like in my rigear department, Like we actually can't afford

654
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: to live together, Like how about that Netflix.

655
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Speaker 2: You're like, I'm trying to get it too better for

656
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: my mom, but we actually can't afford her right now.

657
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: So I go to my local Queen's Library branch, which,

658
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: as viewers of this puble no I'm obsessed with after.

659
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: I tipped you off, also that libraries not only have

660
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: books DVDs.

661
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: So I ask the like circulationist girl, I'm like, I'm

662
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: looking for this series it's called Stranger Things online. I

663
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: said you had it. She's like, oh, let me take

664
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: you this serious section. So takes me and she pulls

665
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: out like season one and season two on DVD and

666
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: she's just like, so I have this, I also have this.

667
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't know which one you might be interested in.

668
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: How many you want?

669
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, well, I'm researching this actress

670
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 1: so I need to make sure that she's in it.

671
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: So and then I kind of implied to her that

672
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: I need my privacy to like look up or Wikipedia,

673
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: and so she kind of left me with the DVD

674
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: pile so I could sift through. So I did rent

675
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: season one. I was like, well, just a sorry.

676
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: Cool I started with OG I know. I was like,

677
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: should I start with season two just to be like

678
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: weird and get a taste of older Milly.

679
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's good. We watched the same

680
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: thing and I liked her sort of on Genue acting.

681
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: But it's like you can almost tell in the show

682
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: that she's already been like I'm going to pretend to

683
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: write a novel and hopefully sell it and star in

684
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: my own show. Like she's trying to be the breakout

685
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: star from the beginning in this way where she's like,

686
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: I am a thin, shivering British on Genue.

687
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 2: Right, because she's like shivering and has her big eyes.

688
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: One crazy thing that I learned from my GF while

689
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: watching it is not only did she get slid into

690
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: the DMS of by Drake when she was underage, but

691
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: Doja Cat slid into the DMS of one of the

692
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: young boys.

693
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Okay, good when they were underage seven and she's been

694
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: the gay from cheer.

695
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the literous. She was like twenty one and

696
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 2: maybe one of them were like seventeen or something. Oh,

697
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: but there was some I mean I don't care personally,

698
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: but I think there was some online controversy.

699
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Well no stranger to controversy. Doha kat is joining us

700
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: the City to talk about her new EP.

701
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Basically, this show kids are in the past, and it

702
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: made them hot, I guess because they're fighting stranger things.

703
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: And yeah, watching her be an entreen, I was like,

704
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: it does make her be kind of Jenny because you're like,

705
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure you were like kind of sitting down on

706
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: the laptop to like write nineteen steps.

707
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: She imagined herself like sitting down to zooms one day.

708
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: I think also, like I don't know if we said

709
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: this already, but like I think she definitely tried to

710
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: sell this as a TV show when she sold the

711
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: rights to the book and it didn't well.

712
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: A lot of deals now happen as a twofer.

713
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I feel like there was maybe like sold as like

714
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: a possible twofer, like with an option to twofur, but

715
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: like no one's picking up the option because the book

716
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: wasn't flying off the shelves.

717
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't know. I can imagine this is

718
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: a show, and like I can for sure as like

719
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 2: maybe six episodes on Netflix that I'm not watching.

720
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: I think it's eight episodes, okay, And I think it

721
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: would sell and I think like you actually would watch it.

722
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: I think you would watch.

723
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: Okay, but aren't you so like accidentally being like, oops,

724
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: I watched two seasons of called the Midway.

725
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: No, like, London to me is too bowler, I'll say it,

726
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: and not for Dora enough.

727
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's the roundness of the hat that makes

728
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: you uncomfortable. Yes, it evokes your mother's breast, a memory

729
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 1: you've tried to dislodge over the years, trying to stop. Yes. See,

730
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: I love I guess Randy London, but you love London.

731
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: I love the crapness of the streets, but certainly not

732
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: the subways.

733
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: What do you think of So her hot American boyfriend Ray,

734
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: who drinks lemonade and not chickory coffee, does end up

735
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: passing away in.

736
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: The war or so we thing, and so like he's

737
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: playing get shot down, and then she's really sad, and

738
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: then she like does get together with the still very

739
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: hunger games to me, how she kind of gets with Pita.

740
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: I know that's fantasy and like again Addie Rowhouse, but

741
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: like she's like, you know what, I'll just go with

742
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: the like local nice guy who is sweet.

743
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 2: It's been watching me through a window and.

744
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: He proposes to her on like victory Day. You know

745
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: what's interested with this book. It's very chaste, so there's

746
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: no sex scenes. It's just her like kissing and maybe

747
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: that was like the forties. But I also wonder if

748
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: Millie Bobby has a chasteness to her sexuality because she's

749
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: eternally eleven.

750
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: Well, we've broken down the Piga white fence, like I

751
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: feel like we've had the series where's the people actually

752
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: were fucking in the fifties, right, But she's trying to

753
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: do that thing that I think we all pretend our

754
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: grandma's like don't.

755
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Fuck maybe right because it is as told by her

756
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: nan or whatever. And so she's like, I don't want

757
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: to picture my grandma having sex. And she's also like

758
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: and I want young girls everywhere of age nine to

759
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: read this book and like not get horny.

760
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: So she's making it more like Ray embraced me and

761
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: gave me a peck on the cheek. Wow, I felt

762
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: marvelous with him.

763
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. The word passionate appears once to describe her relationship

764
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: with Ray, but for most of the book it's just

765
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: arm around her. There's like closed mouth kissing. It's always

766
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: like he pressed his lips against mine. There is no

767
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: his tongue exs what I.

768
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: Used to think from watching old films all the time

769
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: as a child, that people only closed mouth kissed in

770
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: the past. I thought French kissing.

771
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: Was invented in the eighties.

772
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: Later on, like you know the famous kiss in From

773
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: Here to Eternity, which is a film about World War

774
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 2: Two starring Frank Sinatra, there's a famous kiss where he's

775
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: on the beach with a woman and they're like are

776
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: basically having sex on the beach, but it's only closed

777
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: mouth kiss.

778
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. But people also had that way of holding each

779
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: other and like you know how like the men are

780
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: always like grabbing a woman in like a forties film,

781
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: but it was really stiff, and like everyone moved this

782
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: stiff way.

783
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: They're like and they're like hard kiss, no tongue for

784
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: five seconds. That other side they.

785
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: Look like they're too, like if you were playing with

786
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: your dolls and you like mashed them together. Like that's

787
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: how people were missing in movies back then.

788
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: Before intimacy coordinators, Before intimacy coordinators like came on the

789
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: scene and helped us all do batter I do wonder

790
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: like my grandmother was engaged to another man before my grandfather.

791
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: And you're like, did they do an all?

792
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like did they even f And she says

793
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: the reason why it ended is because he wanted her

794
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: to cook his mother's style of cooking.

795
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: As all men do that.

796
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Mommy, Yeah, and she was like, I'm gonna cook my

797
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: mother's style of cooking.

798
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's interesting. There's a scene at the

799
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: end in this book where she's sort of resigning herself

800
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 1: to Mary Billy, the neighbor, the you know, the long

801
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: suffering best friend who has always had a crush on her,

802
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: but who has asthma. Also.

803
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: It's like, well, he's nice, and she's.

804
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: Just been like, oh, this fucking faggot with asthma's like

805
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: in love with me, But she's actually loved with her

806
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: big strong American man who she thinks was gunned down.

807
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: So she says this thing about ironing Billy's shirts while

808
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: he toiled in the garden or painting walls or simply

809
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: sat with the newspaper was once she would have relished

810
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: a quiet, comfortable, domestic scene. But now she knew that

811
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: whenever she was doing something Billy, she'd be imagining doing

812
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: it for Ray. Now she knew he was alive, and

813
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: she'd forever wonder how different her life could have been.

814
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Because Ray comes back and there was like, oh, I

815
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: was shot down, I was in a pow camp. So

816
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: it's like in this moment, she's kind of like it

817
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: would have been like fine domestic, but like I would

818
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: have rather iron shirts for my hot American because it's like.

819
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: If she was ironing raised like American Army greens, it

820
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: would be so much more like I'm statching trousers Ray,

821
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: and Billy's just being like, hello, would you mind startching

822
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: my trousers? Remarks and spencer that I got.

823
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: And She's just like, you bucktooth arithmatic, Nelly, get out

824
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: of here. I have work to do. I work for

825
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: the mayor.

826
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: At town Hall, a lovely hotel by the way. Yeah,

827
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: And then the end of the book is very like

828
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: a leak of their own the original film when it's

829
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 2: just like nineteen ninety three and like Nelly is old

830
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: and she's like meeting up with Babs and they're all

831
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: like reminiscing about the forties.

832
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't it sound great? Out of Cancer You're kind

833
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: of like random.

834
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like, I don't know, right, it's the reveal

835
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: where she's like, Ryan and I had a beautiful life,

836
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: the cancer took him, and you're like, I don't know

837
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: if I'm the emotions aren't.

838
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: No. I mean, I think this book was a very predictable.

839
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: I'll say it be like Finley John character is extremely

840
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: just like been there, done that, seene it well trodden

841
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: territory of like not just a World War two story,

842
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: but like any real rom com. You know, we've seen

843
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: it a million times before.

844
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the thing is like, I'm so down

845
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: right for predictable romance. Just give me something more like

846
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: I just never found myself wanting to turn the page

847
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: really at all.

848
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: I do like that she chose to highlight, you know,

849
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: a working class tragedy that has been unsung throughout history,

850
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: that has all of these kind of contemporary allusions to

851
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: other tragedies that have happened that continue to affect like

852
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: poor folks today that go underserved by their government and

853
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: unnoticed and ultimately how prop of the tribe serious health ramifications. Absolutely,

854
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: I like the Aaron Brocovic aspect to it, and I

855
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: like that Millie Bobby Brown had the moxy and the

856
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: gumption to be like, I want to play my grand

857
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm but sexier in a Netflix limited parts series. I'm

858
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna write a novel and like hopefully that creates some

859
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: runway for it, and like even if it didn't, I

860
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: do admire that gumption.

861
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's huge of her to not just be like, oh,

862
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take some meetings and just like try to

863
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: sell the serious. She's like cosplaying as just novelist. Yes,

864
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 2: so we're all tricked into just being like wait, sorry,

865
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: Millie by child actress now adult engaged to John bon

866
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: Jovi's son, which is insane. Also, I read that John

867
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 2: bon Jovi did not perform at their wedding because Millie

868
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: Bobby Brown was like, he actually needs the night off,

869
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: and people are always like, oh, you think if you'res

870
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: related to John bon Jovi you get a free performance.

871
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: I agree where it's like if you have a celebrity

872
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: your wedding, like it's a little rude to ask them

873
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: to like be a celebrity at the wedding, right unless

874
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: it's like you're inviting Jami Makirk and you're just expecting

875
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: her to like be drunk and have been. Absolutely she

876
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: can do that, but don't expect her to put on

877
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: her show. What does she what does she wear? How

878
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: does she live?

879
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: Okay, what does she eat? Like? But she's like British,

880
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: Like it's like Kapa.

881
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: She's definitely Kappa and she's more like I'm not like

882
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: more girls guys girl, So she's whole milk. The thing

883
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: is to me though, like her tomboyishness is not so

884
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: guy's girl in that way.

885
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: Grapes less steak period.

886
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: So to me, that's oat milk.

887
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm almost like it's just like tea lemon, no milk.

888
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: But don't you think she's like, oh, latte and just like.

889
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: A maybe it's a macadamia milk.

890
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: There we go milk. But yeah, so she's like, give

891
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: me a full English and then she kind of like.

892
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: Give me a full English extra vaccan Damian nuts on

893
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: the side.

894
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: And then she's kind of picking out her phone lish. Yeah,

895
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: so she likes British food, like she's very lords, Like

896
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: she likes a scale curried Scotch.

897
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: Egg right that she's having a tiny bite of.

898
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: But I don't think that she's like having her vulnmet

899
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: effectors with all the mushrooms and tomatoes. Like no, I

900
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: don't think, because again she scrapes not steaks. Like this

901
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: is like one of the most genius things you've ever said.

902
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: Also, we need to stop being so like nationalists. Like

903
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: if we were British and we were talking about like

904
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: an American actress, will we be like, oh, she gets

905
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: the full hungry man breakfast of two pancakes and bacon.

906
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: No, you're right, and like let's actually stop trying to

907
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: stereotypeople based in their niche.

908
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: But like, right, she has more lords and probably is

909
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: like getting like a chickory fennel salad.

910
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: I feel like she always ate earlier, Like when you

911
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: ask us I ate earlia thin girl.

912
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: Stuff, I e. She ate earlier, And then I think

913
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: like on sex, she's also been acting since she was eleven,

914
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: so she's grown up on craft.

915
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Services also de girl.

916
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: And it's like wraps and just kind of like granola yogurt.

917
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: She knows how to keep her hunger down, but.

918
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: When she goes out yet it's like picking that things.

919
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: What did you think of her acting in the scene

920
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: in the serious premiere of Stranger Things where she's in

921
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: the back of the diner and it's like that classic

922
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: thing where they're like, she's so hungry because she's been

923
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: trapped in like a government facility her whole life, so

924
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: she starts ravenously eating fries. I felt a little bit

925
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: like the way she was eating the fries was actually

926
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: too familiar with fries and she was to be like grosser.

927
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: And this is actually why she's like, is so macadamia

928
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: milk because she wasn't being like so nasty about it,

929
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: and they're being like, she didn't know what the word

930
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: for friend is, but she knew to pick up a

931
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: single fry like between her thumb and forefinger and put

932
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: it in her mouth. It's like, I don't think that's

933
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: intuitive behavior.

934
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: It's just like I'm like burger, yeah, right, Because I

935
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: was like, well, she alien or she just like kidnapped

936
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: Stranger Things girl, But then I guess like aliens also

937
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: maybe if they were hungry would.

938
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, okay, so you do have a little

939
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: yen for fantasy. Maybe you need too much that such

940
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: an adorable little noise.

941
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I do, but I think it'd be really

942
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: fun to act in fantasy.

943
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: I'll say that, oh for sure, costas please? Okay, what

944
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: does she wear? So I did cheat a little Instagram

945
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: and like she's promoting like the most like la ath

946
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: Leisure work collab that she's like with the fakest company,

947
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: and I feel like she's so like basically just like

948
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: took her stranger things fame and was like I'm gonna

949
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: launch a thousand things and be so like Stanley cup

950
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: and bag and perfume and like backpack and hoodie.

951
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: And she's like, I'm gonna launch a thousand not strange things.

952
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, like normal things my line.

953
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like now she's gotten more norm and

954
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: like I do picture her just like with John bon

955
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: Jovi's son, and they're just kind of been matching la sweatsuits.

956
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: Which is weird because I'm kind of like, if you

957
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: want to be those scrapes not steaks, then why aren't

958
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: you being more like till to Swinton and being like

959
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm weird I'm gonna be like a an icon on

960
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: the red carpet, Like I'm gonna wear like the most

961
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: architectural pointy things. I'm gonna like Hunter shape for eat

962
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: your heart out, like I am gonna always.

963
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: She's also being so nelly and trad getting married at

964
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: twenty two.

965
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like it's actually not nineteen forty one.

966
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: You don't have to get married.

967
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: But maybe that's because Trad is in. And also she's like, well,

968
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: I've been working since I was eleven, so I feel

969
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: like I'm forty five.

970
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it twisted her into an early adulthood, so she

971
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: wants kids.

972
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: Now, and like launching cups and sweats were the sweatshirts,

973
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: like they have like little phrases on them.

974
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: I feel like if it did have a little phrase,

975
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't a sassy phrase. It was a phrase that

976
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: just said like the name of them brand or something,

977
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: or just as like twenty eleven, like whatever her birth

978
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: year is, and you're just like, yeah, I think she's

979
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: also maybe struggling with the like transatlantic identity of being

980
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: like am I a British star or am I an

981
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: American star? Right?

982
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: Because she's so like American code and it's like stranger things,

983
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: like you're always seeing like Quicksilver ex stranger things, McDonald's

984
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: ex stranger things like VAM stranger.

985
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: Things, Whereas like a Florence Pew is like being more

986
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: like I'm British and I'm Alt and I'm like fucking

987
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: America up with my nose ring and you're.

988
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, definitely marrying again, saying with me John Bojovie's

989
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: son is so American because he's such like an American treasure.

990
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, in some ways this book is her

991
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: trying to like reconnect with her British past after maybe

992
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: just becoming an American celebrity.

993
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: And like it makes you want to reconnect with your

994
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: non British past, and we all need to do it.

995
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I know. I was actually trying to think when we

996
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: read this book. I was like, hmm, I feel like

997
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know like what my ancestors were actually doing.

998
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: Wait, did your grandfather serve?

999
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: My grandfather, well, you know, he was a pilot. He

1000
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: was like a he was an airman and he was

1001
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: like a stunt pilot for movies like in the thirties.

1002
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: Maybe he did have to serve, but in a way

1003
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: where he wasn't over there right.

1004
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: Where he was just kind of like stunting over here.

1005
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: Or like testing planes over here. I just feel like

1006
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't gone. But I also I wasn't there, so

1007
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was gone.

1008
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 2: You were at the site for so, Yeah, we're connect

1009
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: with our roots. How does she live? It's I think

1010
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: it's just so the huge as couch you've ever seen

1011
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: your entire life, and she's being so tiny on it

1012
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: with her tiny four dogs.

1013
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's honestly just so boring.

1014
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 2: And I think so boring, like call your daddy studio.

1015
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: Basically I wish that she was finding a way to

1016
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: connect with her British history more and it could be

1017
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: more maximalist and like such an overhating library with like

1018
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: a lot her and just like jewel tone sofa and

1019
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: like maybe there's a jewel tone sofa, but it's not

1020
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: like it should be like such like dark, ratty, huge

1021
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: nasty sofas and like.

1022
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: Like your hippie grandmother from like Gonnaby.

1023
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: Street was yeah, and like you know, like ashtrays, like

1024
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: pedestal ash trays where you press down the little top

1025
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: and it like spins around and opens up.

1026
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: Oh, that's really fun. I mean, I guess also the

1027
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: reason why she has to connect because like, as this

1028
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: book says, is that Nelly ultimately dude moved to the States,

1029
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 2: so they.

1030
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: Left it all behind and the war was traumatizing and

1031
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: I get that, and like if you were in London

1032
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: during the Blitz, like that would have been really fucked up.

1033
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: But her house is straight up boring and it's like

1034
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: those like light lamitars.

1035
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: She has a green velvet couch.

1036
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that's massive, yeah, but it's still like recess lighting

1037
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: to the boots and like just.

1038
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: Like island and she's hardly there and like she's walking

1039
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: and there's like assistance and there's like, yeah, I don't

1040
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: think there's anything special. Is there this office of like

1041
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: family picture where she wrote this book?

1042
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: No, I think she had the zoom meetings with like

1043
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Katie mcgirrell, like just on the big couch and like

1044
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: they're on even fram photos. No photos, really, no photos.

1045
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown, Okay, who are you in the book? Oh?

1046
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: Are you in the book?

1047
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: I guess I identify with her being the assistant to

1048
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: the mayor as someone who has worked in politics, but

1049
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: I also identified with someone who has been to town

1050
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: Hall in bethnal Green.

1051
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: Right, I think like you are Nelly.

1052
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: But I guess I also identify with Billy as being

1053
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: like the sadismatic friend because he did have asthma as

1054
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: a child.

1055
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: But you overcame it.

1056
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: Yes, but I'm traumatized by it.

1057
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: No, I mean absolutely your children that trauma. And like

1058
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 2: I identified definitely with like Ray being American and taking her

1059
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 2: to a jazz club.

1060
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: Okay when she was like, I don't like jazz that

1061
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: much though, nice. And I also felt like this relationship

1062
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: with between her and Ray was very like what do

1063
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: straight people talk about? Which maybe is accurate.

1064
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: It's just about the passion. So their bodies are speaking,

1065
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: even in a chaste, virginal way.

1066
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: Right, And like they'd be like riding a bike and

1067
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: then he like stops the bike and she's like she

1068
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: was giggling so much that he'd like turn the handlebars

1069
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: weirdly or something, and they just couldn't stop laughing, and

1070
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: you're just like, what are you even talking about? And

1071
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: then they go to this jazz concert and they're not

1072
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: talking the whole time, and then she's just like, I

1073
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: don't want to admit it, but like, I'm not sure

1074
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: this music is for me, and he's like, I could

1075
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: tell you, crazy British tomboy, I'll take you back to

1076
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: your favorite pub.

1077
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: Oh you're just a pub girl.

1078
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: So like you are because you like jazz and you

1079
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: are married.

1080
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: And I'm like forcing someone to come to a jazz

1081
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: club with me.

1082
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.

1083
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: We haven't even mentioned that she has chickens in this book,

1084
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 2: and she's always like, where is my chickens?

1085
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, the brother keeps chickens in the backyard. And

1086
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Speaker 1: the Yankee is just like, well darned, And I never

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Speaker 1: thought i'd see a British person keeping chickens in the

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Speaker 1: big city. I'm just from a farm in Michigan. And

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Speaker 1: she's like, what is that? Is that near Chicago?

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Speaker 2: He's lived all across our great land. He's like New York, Michigan, Southern.

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Speaker 2: I give this book again. I think you're right. I'm

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Speaker 2: the gumption for Millie Bobby Brown to like seek out

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Speaker 2: a ghostwriter to write a book about her grandmother surviving

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Speaker 2: like a trample in London during World War two is cool.

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Speaker 2: But I give it one point nine. I just like

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Speaker 2: kind of.

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Speaker 1: Was like, what, I give it a full two asphyxiated

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Speaker 1: corpses in the Bethnal Tube Station out of five because

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Speaker 1: mostly for the moxie of her deciding to write a

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Speaker 1: novel and like being this random girl who's famous for

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Speaker 1: one show that's married to John Buonjovi's son, and like

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Speaker 1: telling the story of government Neglack. It's also cool to

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Speaker 1: respect your elders. Yes, And I like that she is

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Speaker 1: like weaving back and back. I mean there's something very

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Speaker 1: like Joanne about it to the Lady Gaga album where

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Speaker 1: you're like, I'm going to use a relative's like past

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Speaker 1: and like tragedy that I'm not even that close to,

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Speaker 1: like make it my own hole, make it my whole identity.

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Speaker 1: For like a press cycle, You're like, Okay, go off,

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that would be me now, like

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Speaker 1: making like a limited series. I have to make that wait,

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Speaker 1: and that would be I mean, it is such an

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Speaker 1: Amazon series and it's called like fly Boys and Big Goggles.

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Speaker 1: They were the Pirates of the Sky, and I.

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Speaker 2: Think if that show they actually would show, fucking.

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Speaker 1: Yes they would, and there'd be like so many cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: Forty fucking.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna call Katie mcgirl and get cracking on

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Speaker 1: that script.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just say, like, you know, grats to Katie for

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Speaker 2: pulling this out of her ass.

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Speaker 1: Also, yeah, go off, mcgirl, you mic wrote this. I

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Speaker 1: will be continuing to watch this DVD of Stranger Things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm gonna catch a few too. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I do actually like want to know, and

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Speaker 2: it's enough, I think retronous and like, you know, sex

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Speaker 2: and dating and family for me to keep it okay.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny about this show? So years ago

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Speaker 1: when this first came out in front of the pod,

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Speaker 1: Jack lind No, that was like, Stephen, you look so

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: much like this actress on the show, this character, and

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Speaker 1: I was like what. And then when I was watching it,

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, she like is me in this

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Speaker 1: weird way. But the main girl, no, the like slutty

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Speaker 1: girl who's like not a slot but like whose friend

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Speaker 1: is the lesbian who likes sleeps with the like popular.

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Speaker 2: Guy who's like with Steve, and she's always like Steve Harrington,

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Speaker 2: you're an idiot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's still like I have to study, stop

1140
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Speaker 1: trying to hook up with me, which a is so me.

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Speaker 1: But there's something about her face that like it's in

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00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: the like brows and the eyes and like the face

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00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: shape generally that just is weirdly me And if you're

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00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: watching it, you'll be like.

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Speaker 2: Wait, okay, all, when I watch this again on my

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Speaker 2: blizzard night, all kind of.

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Speaker 1: When you close up. Anyway, Millie, congrats on your first novel.

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Speaker 2: Literally congrats. I haven't written a novel or hired a

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Speaker 2: ghost writer, so yeah, this has been fun and I

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Speaker 2: learned a little.

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Speaker 1: I learned a little, okay.

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Speaker 2: Best story of.

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Speaker 1: This podcast was produced by me Nan Derby Masters Makeshe

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Speaker 1: Rest in Peace.

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Speaker 2: The supervising producer is a boot so Far.

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Speaker 1: It was also executive produced by Christine.

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Speaker 2: The Blotchy Kicking Music. The theme song to our podcast

1158
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Speaker 2: is done by Stephen Phillips Horse Conomby Street's Best.

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Speaker 1: The graphic design was done by a lovely little chippy

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Speaker 1: shop in East London called Chips New York.

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Speaker 2: Ironically, we originally co created this podcast in Parliament for

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Speaker 2: prelough projects.

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Speaker 1: I love how your accent is sort of changing throughout

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Speaker 1: and so it is mine. We're just like, yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: just little dotty but.

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Speaker 2: Like professional but like NPR, but like.

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Speaker 1: You want to hear more of that? Go the picture

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Speaker 1: on dot com to see me to the pod and

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Speaker 1: little prizes than little things for you extra episodes and

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Speaker 1: whatnot five quid a month quid.

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Speaker 2: And like we have a fit when you reviewers not

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Speaker 2: our tunes and it's weird but we get we're textingly

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Speaker 2: children WhatsApp at midnight being like you see in a review.

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Speaker 1: Like no review, just drop. It just really tick us up, bums.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, mate, you know it's gonna be one

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 1: I love you,