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Speaker 1: Good evening, America, Happy Thursday, and welcome to the latest

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Speaker 1: edition of Justin Who's No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon,

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Speaker 1: reporting to is always from the nation's capital, Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Here's something we don't say very often. The eyes of

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Speaker 1: the world are going to be on Islamabad over the

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Speaker 1: next twenty four hours wide. That is the city in

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Speaker 1: Pakistan where the JD vance. The Vice President will lead

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Speaker 1: a delegation of Americans in some high stakes negotiations with Iran.

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Speaker 1: Can they bring this war to an end? Can they

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Speaker 1: end forty seven years of heinous hostility by Iran against

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Speaker 1: Americans and Westerners in israelis?

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Speaker 2: That is what's at stake.

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Speaker 1: At the table wining the Vice President, there will be

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Speaker 1: Steve Whitcoff, President Trump's a special diplomat for all the

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Speaker 1: hot spots in the world, and someone close to the President,

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Speaker 1: his son in law, Jared Kushner, will also be there.

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Speaker 1: While those preparations were being made for the discussions today,

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Speaker 1: the sort of tenuous and I wanted to I think

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Speaker 1: that's the right word to use. Tenuous ceasefire has mostly

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Speaker 1: held in Iran, right, not a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of ships going through the Strait of her moves, a

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Speaker 2: lot of rhetoric flying around, a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of confusion about what they think they did and didn't

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Speaker 1: agree to in Iran, but thus far not a lot

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Speaker 1: of bombs going a generally peaceful day, and even some

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Speaker 1: movement by Israel to say, hey, maybe we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: Lebanon to cut out that bombing, to give the Iran

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Speaker 1: piece talks with the United States a better chance. All

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Speaker 1: of that playing out before our very eyes. Really high stakes, folks.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be covering this day and night here

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Speaker 1: at Justin News, at Real America's Voice. A man has

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Speaker 1: been at the White House working this all day. I

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Speaker 1: want to bring her in right now, Amanda. I can't

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Speaker 1: think of a negotiation with perhaps greater stakes for America

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Speaker 1: the up side or Iran. If they don't agree to peace,

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Speaker 1: what comes next is probably not going to be something

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's exactly why we have a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a change in sentiment from Israel, because

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Speaker 3: not only is this so important to the future of

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Speaker 3: the United States, it's it's very important to the future

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Speaker 3: of Israel. And I know that Israel has you know,

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Speaker 3: they left Lebanon outside of this agreement because of Hesbelah, right,

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Speaker 3: and so it was you know, they created a separation

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Speaker 3: between the Iranian regime for negotiation, separate from Hesbelah. But

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Speaker 3: I think that since we see this turning, they obviously

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Speaker 3: recognize that this is this is a security in the

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Speaker 3: posterity for Israel. It's too important to let this entire

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Speaker 3: thing fall apart just because they are still picking bones

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Speaker 3: with Hesbela.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's been interesting, Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: It's an amazing moment, and it's an amazing testament to

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Speaker 3: President Trump's negotiation skills.

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Speaker 4: Wrote a book on it, so he should be the good.

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Speaker 1: You know, a few tweets sounded on Eastern morning, and

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Speaker 1: I think he got Iron's attention about being honest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's true.

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Speaker 3: And we've often talked about how President Trump, you know,

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Speaker 3: one of his his best astributes and one of his

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Speaker 3: sharpest skills when it comes to negotiating is keeping his

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Speaker 4: And when it comes to.

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Speaker 3: President Trump and his very frenetic dealings with them, I

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Speaker 3: think that they are permanently on their heels until this

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Speaker 3: this all is over.

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Speaker 2: But stone Age as soon we'll see what indeed indeed.

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Speaker 4: Or turned to glass.

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Speaker 3: So, John, you know, I was in California last week

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Speaker 3: and I want to highlight something.

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Speaker 4: This is one of.

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Speaker 3: Those stories that really as I was driving down certain

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Speaker 3: California authorities have announced a major crackdown on what they

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Speaker 3: call a massive hospice fraud scheme. Now five people have

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Speaker 3: already been arrested, with officials.

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Speaker 4: Warning that more arrest could be on the way.

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Speaker 3: And when you look at the details, it's clear that

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Speaker 3: this is not this is not small time fraud. Prosecutors

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Speaker 3: say that this was a coordinated operation that used stolen

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Speaker 3: So we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 3: all from a system that is supposed to care for

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Speaker 3: people at the end of their lives, such a vulnerable time.

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Speaker 3: So what really stands out is that many of these

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Speaker 3: hospice companies were actually licensed by the state of California.

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Speaker 3: So the question, of course then becomes, how does something

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Speaker 4: Scale without raising red flags?

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Speaker 3: Sooner, while officials say that this is part of a

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Speaker 3: much larger problem in California with a surge in fraud

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Speaker 3: cases related to hospice care.

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Speaker 4: So this investigation is far from over.

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Speaker 3: And while it appears that everyday Americans are being left

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Speaker 3: behind by blue states like California and Minnesota, there are

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Speaker 3: still strong support for President Trump and his administration in

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Speaker 3: their efforts to get our country back on.

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Speaker 4: Track and make our world safer.

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Speaker 3: Now while the left and mainstream media continue to undermine

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Speaker 3: the President's America First agenda, let's hear what everyday Americans

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Speaker 3: think about the President and it's military operation against Iron

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Speaker 3: and the recent cease fired deal.

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Speaker 4: Take a listen.

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Speaker 5: Do you think this ceasefire is a product of the

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Speaker 5: President's a piece through springs policy.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 6: I do, because when he went in on day one

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Speaker 6: and took care of the matter, I think he definitely

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Speaker 6: was able to bring strength through peace in a certain way.

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Speaker 6: So I'm hoping that that can actually transfer into a

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Speaker 6: peace deal, which I'm very confident he'll be able to

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Speaker 6: do so.

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Speaker 7: I would wager to say there's more behind the scenes

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Speaker 7: that we're aware of, and things are just falling into

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Speaker 7: place as planned.

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Speaker 4: So wise words from Americans.

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Speaker 3: Americans are always smarter than politicians give them credit for.

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Speaker 4: And they see what's happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Did you see who the prosecutor was in this California

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Speaker 1: front case, Ron Bonte.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Attorney General Bob Bonte.

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Speaker 2: So why is that important?

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Speaker 1: Because this went on for ten years or many years,

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Speaker 1: several hundred million dollars. Only now after the Feds and

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Speaker 1: President Trump get going.

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Speaker 2: Remember how this started.

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Speaker 1: We wrote the first stories after Governor Wats was named

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Speaker 1: by president nominee by the Democratic Party. We highlighted, and

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Speaker 1: then the prosecutors came and questioned us. They once started

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Speaker 1: then Nick cually went to California, and CBS News went

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Speaker 1: out to California. And now Democrats who used to turn

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Speaker 1: be good for the tax payer laun term. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: a little competition is a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And Rob Bonta is exactly the type of person that

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Speaker 3: would be the latest in this pipeline of attorneys general.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much all of his predecessors have sat on this fraud.

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Speaker 3: This is not something I have no disillusion that the

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Speaker 3: State of California did not know that this was happening. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: in California, you have to triage fraud because they're so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, there's a little fire under the darriers

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Speaker 1: of some of those state officials, and that's going to

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Speaker 1: be good because the state and Feds working together will

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Speaker 1: recover a lot more money, punch a lot more people quicker,

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Speaker 1: save the American taxpayers some money that they've long been

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Speaker 1: robbed of. All right, we got a great and we're

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Speaker 1: going to kick it off with a really good one.

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Speaker 1: She joins us from the great Stata, Wyoming. One of

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Speaker 1: our favorites here. Congresswoman Harriet Agerman, Congresswoman, good to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show.

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Speaker 8: It's wonderful to be here. John, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We love having you on. Next week's a big week.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats are going to try to force a War

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Speaker 1: Power Act resolution vote. Tell us where we are where

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Speaker 1: you are personally on what the President has achieved us

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Speaker 1: far in Iran.

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Speaker 8: One of the things that I think that this is

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Speaker 8: exposed is is that the Democrats are always going to

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Speaker 8: take the side of our enemies. And that is exactly

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Speaker 8: what ironie is. I remember the nineteen seventy nine Iranian Revolution.

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Speaker 8: I remember how things changed instantly for the women of

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Speaker 8: that country when the Islamic Jihad came in. And they

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Speaker 8: have lived under tyranny for forty seven years. And here

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Speaker 8: is President Trump. He is he is the first president

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Speaker 8: after decades and decades and decades who's been willing to

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Speaker 8: go in and actually rescue them from having to live

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Speaker 8: under the thumb of the Iya tool is. This is

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Speaker 8: also some that we have to understand that we have

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Speaker 8: been paying a terror tax since nineteen seventy nine as well,

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Speaker 8: just exactly with what around has done over the last

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Speaker 8: two weeks, with the straight of hor moves, they have

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Speaker 8: They have held a hostage for years by threatening to

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Speaker 8: do exactly what they've done, which is blocked traffic in

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Speaker 8: the straight of hor moves. This is a tyrannical country.

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Speaker 8: They are the least the leading state sponsor of terrorism.

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Speaker 8: They have retavoc throughout the region for far too long,

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Speaker 8: and I am incredibly proud of the President for taking

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Speaker 8: action to free the United States, really free the world

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: A global solution if you pulls us off, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely well in Congress one.

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Speaker 3: There's another aspect of this that I wonder if it

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Speaker 3: will actually hurt Democrats in the midterms. I know a

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Speaker 3: we all remember the rhetoric of Democrats surrounding the withdrawal

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Speaker 8: And I think that it is more than hypocrisy, because

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Speaker 8: they truly are taking the side of what has been

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Speaker 8: an enemy of the world for many, many years. It

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Speaker 8: is stunning to me that the President has actually taken

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Speaker 8: a position that forces the Democrats to defend the government

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Speaker 8: of Iran. And I do think it's going to hurt

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Speaker 8: them in the midterms. I think that things are going

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Speaker 8: to stabilize over there. I think that the President absolutely

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Speaker 8: are hopefully freeing the Iranian people from the tyranny that

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Speaker 8: as I think in comparison what Joe Biden did, one

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Speaker 8: We suffered greatly because of the decisions that Joe Biden made.

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Speaker 8: And yet hear you compare that, or you compare Libya

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Speaker 8: leadership that you receive with the Trump administration as compared

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Speaker 8: to what the Biden administration did.

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Speaker 1: Place where we haven't seen much leadership during this conflict, Europe.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 3: We want to continue our discussion on the Iran ceasefire

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Speaker 2: To have you back.

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Speaker 3: So you have this meeting between President Trump and NATO

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Speaker 4: Kind of put Mark Ruda in an uncomfortable situation. What

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Speaker 7: Meeting, Well, it's certainly an interesting meeting. There's definitely a

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Speaker 7: And I think ultimately NATO really let the US down,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a clear message. And it's so ironic

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Speaker 7: these countries, I think that would certainly be a huge

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Speaker 7: wake up call. And you know, hopefully, you know, it

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Speaker 7: doesn't resort in you know, the entire alliance breaking down.

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Speaker 7: But I do think that President Trump has a lot

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Speaker 7: of options.

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Speaker 3: The administration has moved from basically we have achieved all

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Speaker 3: of our military goals to speaking about this almost as

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Speaker 3: though it's in the past tense a month from now,

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Speaker 3: do you anticipate that that will still be the case,

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Speaker 3: that things will be much improved, this cease fire will

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Speaker 3: hold and will lead to greater negotiations, or will we

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Speaker 3: frankly be right where we are right now.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think with the enormous military success and incredible

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Speaker 7: display of American power from the US military over the

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Speaker 7: past month, I think it's really has forced Iran to

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Speaker 7: the table, and I think, you know, as these negotiations

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Speaker 7: play out over the next few days, I'm confident that

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Speaker 7: this will be a true shift in the conflict. And

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Speaker 7: I don't think we'll be exactly where we are thirty

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Speaker 7: days from now, because I think it's very clear from

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Speaker 7: Iran's perspective that the US military can at any point

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Speaker 7: in time operate essentially, you know, unchallenged, all across the

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Speaker 7: country at any point in time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they also proven they can find any leader they

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Speaker 1: want and kill them, and including those who might be

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Speaker 1: at the table tomorrow. I want to talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about how much more leverage we've had. I think

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Speaker 1: people go through and say, listen, we've been doing this

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Speaker 1: dance with Iran for forty seven years, but the level

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Speaker 1: of destruction that Iran has endured in the last six

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Speaker 1: weeks is epically different than any other time in American history.

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Speaker 1: How much more leverage does that give to the President

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Speaker 1: in these negotiations and Vice President Jadivance, who's the lead

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Speaker 1: man on this, And if we had to go back,

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Speaker 1: what would going back in another round cost iron I

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Speaker 1: can only imagine what that looks like.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think despite hitting literally thousands of targets all

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Speaker 7: over Iran successfully, these were focused on, you know, very

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Speaker 7: high level strategic military targets. I mean, President Trump was

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Speaker 7: very clear that, you know, if Iran doesn't come to

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Speaker 7: the table, that there would be significantly more consequences around

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Speaker 7: you know, energy, oil, infrastructure, and really just squeezing all

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Speaker 7: aspects of power to constrain Iran. And so I think,

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Speaker 7: you know, it was very obvious that Iran didn't want

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Speaker 7: that to happen, and thus, you know, this ceasefire being

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Speaker 7: agreed to is the result.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right.

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Speaker 4: Future of the straits of hormones.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the longer that this drags out and

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Speaker 3: the longer that the openness of the Strait is in

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Speaker 3: question that there will eventually have other countries who are

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Speaker 3: willing to protect their own passage of their own products

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Speaker 3: they are purchasing.

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Speaker 4: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 7: But I think, you know, ultimately, this ceasefire gives me

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Speaker 7: a lot of optimism that ultimately, you know, goods will

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Speaker 7: continue to flow in unfuttered ways through the Strait. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we saw some of the first cargo ships going through

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Speaker 7: earlier today, and I think we'll see a continuance of that.

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Speaker 7: But ultimately, if this drags on significantly longer, I think

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Speaker 7: that's another way where Europe will be forced to step

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Speaker 7: up and maybe even other countries to secure their commercial shipping.

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Speaker 2: Before we let you go.

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Speaker 1: While this is predominantly a conflict between America, Israel, and

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Speaker 1: Iran in the military operations, sitting just a little ways

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Speaker 1: off the conflict is Russia, which used to get all

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Speaker 1: of its deep drones from Iran and now ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of those factories are gone. China, which gets most of

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Speaker 1: its cheap oil from Iran. China and Russia have they

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Speaker 1: been weakened by what the United States has already achieved.

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Speaker 7: I think they have. I mean, ultimately, you know, Iran

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Speaker 7: is a very effective source of power to China with

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Speaker 7: the with the cheap oil supplies. And I think that,

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Speaker 7: you know, as China really incorporates, you know, what happens

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Speaker 7: in Iran to the strategy, I think they're incentivized to

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Speaker 7: stabilize as quickly and you know, ironically, you know, while

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Speaker 7: strong adversaries of the United States, I do think China

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Speaker 7: is very incentivized to get the straight offm moves back

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Speaker 7: and oil flowing to them.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's a.

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Speaker 3: Big incentive where we're Senior advisor to Secretary of War,

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Speaker 3: Pete Heg said, justin fulture, thanks so much for being

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Speaker 3: with us tonight. Stuff all right, everybody coming up next,

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Speaker 3: Let's continue our discussion on the Iran ceasfire with Vice

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Speaker 3: President for National Security and Foreign Policy at the Heritage Foundation.

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Speaker 4: Returning to the show again, Victoria Coats.

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Speaker 1: got a good one. There's so much going on in America.

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Speaker 1: One of the untold stories of the Iran conflict thus

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Speaker 1: far as not only NATO leaving US an alert, but

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Speaker 1: all the Sunni Arab nations had often been a little

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Speaker 1: reluctant to get around anything Israel is doing, coming and

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Speaker 1: becoming perhaps a stronger coalition of the willing than we've

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Speaker 1: seen at any time since the Persian Gulf War one

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one. It's pretty remarkable. Joining us to

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Speaker 1: make a good sense of that the Vice president for

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Speaker 1: National Security and Foreign Policy at the Aritish Foundation and

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Speaker 1: the former deputy National security advisor to President Trump and

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Speaker 1: a great friend of the show, Victoria Coates.

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Speaker 2: Victoria, great to have you back on.

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Speaker 9: Wonderful to see both of you.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: There are so many silver linings or unexpected developments in

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Speaker 1: the conflict. I know there's a lot of uncertainly still

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Speaker 1: where this will end. But you've got the Arab suones

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Speaker 1: more aligned with his zoo in America than anytime I

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Speaker 1: can remember since maybe the invasion of Kuwait and China

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Speaker 1: and Russia. Well, losing some assets and some leverage in

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Speaker 1: the region. Walk us through that dynamic.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 9: This is really what's going to be exciting going forward

578
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Speaker 9: is all of the assumptions under which we have labored

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Speaker 9: as policymakers really since nineteen eighty and President Carter establishing

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Speaker 9: the Carter Doctrine, by which the United States would guarantee

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Speaker 9: the free flow of energy out of the Gulf. All

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Speaker 9: that is changing and what President Trump has done, and

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Speaker 9: credit where credit is due. The Iranians have contributed to

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Speaker 9: this by shelling their neighbors indiscriminately and turning ever in

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Speaker 9: the region against them. What they've done then is gotten

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Speaker 9: all of our partners in the region. So we're talking

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Speaker 9: not just about Saudi Arabia and UAE, both of whom

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Speaker 9: have behaved exemplarily in this conflict, but also in countries

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Speaker 9: like Katar, and then they're all lining up with Israel

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Speaker 9: behind the United States. This is the strong coalition. And

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Speaker 9: so going forward, I think what you'll see is those countries,

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Speaker 9: essentially the GCC plus Israel looking at an alternative infrastructure

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Speaker 9: for energy in the Middle East that bypasses the Strait.

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Speaker 9: We won't necessarily be talking about the Strait for anything

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Speaker 9: essentially but fertilizer. At this point, all the rest of

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Speaker 9: the products can travel by pipeline. It'd be nice to

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Speaker 9: take them out by ship through the Strait, but if

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Speaker 9: the Iranians are acting up for whatever reason, we're going

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Speaker 9: to have a whole new pipeline architecture across the Arabian peninsula.

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Speaker 9: That will make that meaningless.

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Speaker 2: Boy, that's huge, huge, Victoria.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you about another aspect this the

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Speaker 3: vice president, who just a few weeks ago, the media

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Speaker 3: was saying, where is vice Where's the vice president?

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Speaker 4: The president has.

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Speaker 3: Obviously lost confidence in him, and then all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden he is not only frauds are but now he

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Speaker 3: is in this very important position traveling to Islamabad this

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Speaker 3: weekend to head negotiations. It seems that the president his

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Speaker 3: confidence in the vice president is not shaken at all.

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Speaker 9: No dirty little secret. The president actually has full confidence

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Speaker 9: in the Vice president, who has a wonderful staff. I

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Speaker 9: interact with them regularly.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 9: The a notion that Vice President Vance is some sort

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Speaker 9: of wild eyed isolationist is just wrong. He asks a

617
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Speaker 9: lot of very pointed questions. He wants to make sure

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Speaker 9: that policymakers are putting America's first, that's as it should be.

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Speaker 9: And he represents the president and the President's views. And

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Speaker 9: so he's taking with him two of the president's key

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Speaker 9: people in Special Envoy Witkoff and then also Jared Kushner,

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Speaker 9: obviously the President's son in law, and they are going

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Speaker 9: to be a really formidable team because for no other

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Speaker 9: reason then the President has given them all of the cards.

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Speaker 9: Iran has lost this conflict by any conceivable metric. The

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Speaker 9: last little piece of leverage they're clinging to is the

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Speaker 9: strait of hormotes, and as we've discussed, that is an

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Speaker 9: asset of diminishing value for them. They have nothing else,

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Speaker 9: and so I think the Vice President is ready to

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Speaker 9: drive a very hard bargain. And as he said on

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Speaker 9: the tarmac yesterday, all of those forces the President poured

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Speaker 9: into the region, they're going to hang around just make

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Speaker 9: sure things go the way we want them to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a pretty big threat if you're iron because

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Speaker 1: you have no way to defend against those assets anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty remarkable. It seems to me that what could

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Speaker 1: be constructed here is a lot of concessions from Iran

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Speaker 1: on the security front, and they probably want a pretty

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Speaker 1: good sizeable ATM back in return. Is that a good

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Speaker 1: way of looking at what's probably really on the table

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 9: Well, they need that ATM John because they've shut down

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Speaker 9: their internet now for thirty seven days. That's not happened

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Speaker 9: in any modern economy. We don't know how much damage

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Speaker 9: that's done. We know that they were complaining mightily about

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Speaker 9: shutting it down for three days in January. What's happened

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Speaker 9: has got to be almost close to systematic failure. And

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Speaker 9: speaking of ATMs, all their ATMs are empty. There's no

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Speaker 9: cash left, and if there is cash, it's cash they're

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Speaker 9: printing in ten million real nodes, which are worth about

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Speaker 9: seven dollars. So the second front of this war is

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Speaker 9: not a ground force invasion of Iran. It's the economic

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Speaker 9: pressure the President's been putting on Iran since the first term,

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Speaker 9: since the maximum pressure campaign, and he's been doing it

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Speaker 9: again over the course of the last year. So they

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Speaker 9: have no recourse and they know it. They have to

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Speaker 9: have the sanctions relief or the country ceases to exist.

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Speaker 9: So I think the basic three points the President has

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Speaker 9: laid out no nuclear weapons, no missiles, and no terrorist proxies.

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Speaker 9: Those are pretty basic. That's easy for them to meet.

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Speaker 9: And we've actually taken care of the missiles for them,

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Speaker 9: largely taken care of the nuclear so they can just

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Speaker 9: hand over what the President's calling the nuclear dust, the

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Speaker 9: highly enriched geranium, and we can get to a deal here.

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Speaker 9: But then the point of all that is that that

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Speaker 9: whatever survives that will have the seeds of its own

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Speaker 9: destruction sewn into it. That's when the Iranian people can

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Speaker 9: start to insist on reforms that allow them an orderly

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Speaker 4: That's a great point.

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Speaker 3: I just want to ask you one more about NATO,

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Speaker 3: because this is something I mean, President Trump has been

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Speaker 3: talking since before he even came down the Golden Escalator

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Speaker 3: Do you think that he would make good on his

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Speaker 3: notion that he would leave NATO.

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Speaker 9: I think the President is going to demand a new

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Speaker 9: NATO for new Europe. And I was not working for

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Speaker 9: Secretary Rumsfeld when he was ambassador to NATO in nineteen

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Speaker 9: seventy four. I was a little bit younger than but

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Speaker 9: I've read his memos back to then Secretary Kissinger years

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Speaker 9: ago saying the Europeans were not investing enough in their defense,

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Speaker 9: that we were creating a culture of dependency. That's what

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Speaker 9: President Trump is going to break now. And the countries

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Speaker 9: that do pay, and our Baltic allies, Poland Romania are

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Speaker 9: Scandinavian friends that are in NATO, they're all investing at

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Speaker 9: five plus percent of their GDP in their defenses. Those

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Speaker 9: are the countries we should prioritize. And Old Europe can

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Speaker 9: I mean, they can't defend themselves. The Brits can't get

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Speaker 9: a single destroyer into the theater to help us. Where

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Speaker 9: is the vaunted British Navy. It's nowhere, and so we

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Speaker 9: have to focus on New Europe, the partners that will

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Speaker 9: support us. Hopefully Old Europe will get the memo and

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Speaker 9: start to perform better.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, Victoria, I would say that

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Speaker 1: China's had a rough few months. It's energy vulnerability is

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Speaker 1: shut down by its oftentime ally Iran. It's influence in

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Speaker 1: well even by their own numbers, and they tend to

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Speaker 1: inflate their numbers. How much has trying to been losing

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Speaker 1: in the Trump two era.

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Speaker 9: Now it's a rough year. You're absolutely right for the

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Speaker 9: access of evil. They've lost one member in Venezuela entirely,

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Speaker 9: they're abound to lose another in Iran, they might lose

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Speaker 9: a third in Cuba. And you now have North Korea

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Speaker 9: distancing themselves from all those saying, oh, we have nothing

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Speaker 9: to do with Iran, don't come get us, and they

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Speaker 9: should be concerned. I think the President will be looking

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Speaker 9: at North Korea. But what we're going into here, John,

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Speaker 9: is this really critical summit in May with President Trump

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Speaker 9: going to Beijing. Now, Chairman g could have canceled that

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Speaker 9: if he cared about Iran, he might have said, oh,

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Speaker 9: in solidarity with our Iranian brothers, we're going to cancel

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Speaker 9: the summit.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 9: They said we want you to come, and then President

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Speaker 9: They want to talk to the stronghorse. They want to

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Speaker 9: talk to the guy who's just taken out Madora, who's

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Speaker 9: about to take out who took out the Ayah Toola,

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Speaker 9: this is a really powerful message to China. We can

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Speaker 4: You can't.

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Speaker 9: And so this is really an interesting moment, and hopefully

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Speaker 9: we'll have time for lots of discussions going into that

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Speaker 2: It's going to be fun.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Vice President for National Security and Foreign Policy at

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Speaker 3: the Heritage Foundation, one of our favorite folks for wisdom

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Speaker 4: Policy, Victoria Coats, thanks so much for bringing with us.

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Speaker 4: Thank you absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody, now that the food pyramid has been

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Speaker 3: doctor Chadwalding. He's the co founder of nativepath He's also

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Speaker 10: Chad, great to have you back.

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Speaker 11: Hi Amanda, Hi John, so good to be back. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I have to ask you because you know, we've got

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Speaker 10: Are we on the right path?

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Speaker 11: I think we are.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've come a long way too, turning the

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Speaker 11: They're really starting to feel the.

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Speaker 5: Effects of what happened generation after generation of eating ultra

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Speaker 11: People up to this point have been feeling.

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Speaker 5: The effects of a poor diet. They've been feeling low energy,

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Speaker 5: they've been feeling inflamed, and they've been fed upon a

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Speaker 5: So they want something new, they want something different. They're

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Speaker 5: looking for real whole food and real good solutions.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you about our grocery shopping because

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Speaker 3: obviously we want to maintain a healthy diet. With respect

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Speaker 3: because sometimes it's almost impossible to avoid all processed foods,

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Speaker 3: especially if you like to cook and bake. Eighty twenty

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Speaker 3: as far as stuff that has a label on it

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Speaker 11: I think eighty twenty is a good rule.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of convenience in foods that you can

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Speaker 5: take with you and snack and things like that. But generally,

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Speaker 5: when you do go grocery shopping as often as you

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Speaker 5: can shop on the ends, you know where the eggs are, where.

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Speaker 12: The vegetables, the real vegetables are, the fruits are, the

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Speaker 12: whole proteins are don't go inside the aisles as much

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Speaker 12: and think that that's where you want to get your

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Speaker 11: Go on the outside.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: The things on the aisles are there for like dressings

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Speaker 5: and to help make your foods a little bit more tasty,

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Speaker 5: but don't go there first.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 5: So if eighty twenty helps you, that's great. And when

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 11: Protein is the building block.

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Speaker 5: It's the thing that's say shiating, It's what boosts up

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Speaker 5: your metabolism. It's a big needle mover in your diet

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Speaker 5: and affects your health. And that's the same way we

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Speaker 5: want to think about college and right, the most abundant

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Speaker 5: protein in the body one of the best things you

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Speaker 5: can do to supplement this modern American diet that we've

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Speaker 5: been all been eating to fill in the gaps for

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Speaker 5: what's missing.

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Speaker 1: That I was at dinner with someone not that long

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Speaker 1: child who had some sort of skin problem that was

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Speaker 1: related to over hyperactive inflammation, and so the skin was getting.

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Speaker 2: Sores all the time.

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Speaker 1: They started taking college and they noticed a really significant improvement.

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Speaker 1: Are some of these growing skin diseases. We see a

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Speaker 1: lot of drugs in the markets. It'll say, hey, we'll

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Speaker 1: get rid of that rash for you. But is there

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Speaker 1: some evidence that collagen can help in the healing of

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Speaker 1: skin swords that are related to inflammation.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the skin issues typically come down to

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Speaker 5: irritating foods in the gut, right, Foods that are reacting

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Speaker 5: in the gut that get into bloodstream that didn't show

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Speaker 5: themselves as a skin issue.

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Speaker 11: So we really want to think about that.

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Speaker 5: If you have bumps on your skin or something like that,

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Speaker 5: it's not so much a topical cream that we need

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Speaker 5: to put on our skin that we've been thinking about.

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Speaker 5: It's something that we're eating that's irritating in the gut, right,

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Speaker 5: And typically those are processed foods.

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Speaker 11: Those are sugar. Gluten's a big one.

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Speaker 5: Dairy can be problematic for people in many cases. So

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Speaker 5: we want to remove those foods and we want to

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Speaker 5: go back to repairing the gut lining, right, And that's

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Speaker 5: where collagen really comes back in, is it seals that

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Speaker 5: gut lining. It prevents all these foreign proteins from getting.

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Speaker 11: In the bloodstream.

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Speaker 5: Then all of a sudden, you can start absorbing the

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Speaker 5: food and the nutrients that you're taking in. And then

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Speaker 5: it's a needle movement right when you prove your gut

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Speaker 5: is central to the health of your entire body as

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Speaker 5: well as the health of your brain, your mood.

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Speaker 11: It's all connected to your gut.

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Speaker 3: As I said, I love the collagen. I just started

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Speaker 3: using the greens. I use the berberine. Now, so many

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Speaker 3: amazing products that you guys have over there, Doctor Chadwalden,

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Speaker 3: co founder of Native Path.

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Speaker 4: Always an honor to have you with us there.

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Speaker 11: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 3: It is our final segment of the night that Our

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Speaker 3: next guest wrote a book about how the radical left

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Speaker 3: controls America and what can be done to take back

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Speaker 3: our country. Joining us is political strategists and author of

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Speaker 3: the book The Political Vice, John Tilman.

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Speaker 4: John, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 13: Great to be with you, Amanda, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're delighted to have you.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I look at these issues where Democrats

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Speaker 3: are on the wrong side of, you know, eighty twenty,

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Speaker 3: ninety ten, seventy five, twenty five issues, the Save America Act,

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Speaker 3: trans issues, immigration, They are consistently on the unpopular side.

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Speaker 4: Of these things.

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Speaker 3: And yet you look at midterm polling and they are

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Speaker 3: doing fine and dandy.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, And now that's kind of the point of the

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Speaker 13: book is that the left understands that the winning elections

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Speaker 13: is a propaganda war. And there's the famous term that

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Speaker 13: politics is downstream of culture. What they know is that

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Speaker 13: that means they have to be at the headwaters of

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Speaker 13: the river talking to voters all the time, twenty four

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Speaker 13: to seven, three sixty five, every year, not just election years.

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Speaker 13: And they use the media, which is one side of

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Speaker 13: the political device, to in doctrinate propagandas on issues. The

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Speaker 13: other side of the vice, which is the American people,

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Speaker 13: and then me while at the bottom of the vice,

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Speaker 13: which are e lead influencers. They have tremendous control over

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Speaker 13: the comms systems of universities K through twelve, education, all

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Speaker 13: the nonprofits in the NGOs. We've learned about, corporate communications,

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Speaker 13: and all the rest of it. So there's this constant

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Speaker 13: drum beat by them among those people who are thinking

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Speaker 13: of voting. But meanwhile, when you take that away and

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Speaker 13: you do the polling on the issues, the issues resound to.

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Speaker 2: The right, the political right.

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Speaker 13: But when it comes to the brand of Republican and Democrat,

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Speaker 13: the Republican brand is tarnished because of all that power

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Speaker 13: I just described putting pressure on the political system, which

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Speaker 13: is a pressurized system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was lucky enough to get to read this

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Speaker 1: book early before it came out.

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Speaker 2: It is sensational, John.

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Speaker 1: And there's two things that I walked away thinking about

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Speaker 1: that are unresolved if you're a conservative or Republican. One

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Speaker 1: is the left still controls the cultural machinery in great

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Speaker 1: deal Hollywood music. Now there's some alternatives coming out, but

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Speaker 1: not in scope and scale yet. And then two, they

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Speaker 1: literally start running for the next election. The night the

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Speaker 1: first election ends, and so they've got this twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven four year continuous machine. Republicans take a break

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Speaker 1: after elections and they may go a year and a half.

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Speaker 1: We've seen that to be pretty consequential in these off

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Speaker 1: year elections where Republicans have underperformed every election since Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump won in November.

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Speaker 2: What is the key, I mean, you nail it in

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Speaker 2: the book. You diagnose the problem.

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Speaker 1: What's the key to solving those two deficits in the

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Speaker 1: election machinery.

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Speaker 13: Well, I wrote the book to try to get two

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Speaker 13: key aspects of this done. Number one is I think

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Speaker 13: the conservative right needs a skunk works brain trust, and

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Speaker 13: I'm not saying that we should have centralized command and control.

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Speaker 13: The left has centralized command and control. That's why you

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Speaker 13: see affordability becomes suddenly the talking point that everybody's talking about.

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Speaker 13: The whole debate going on about right now in a RAN,

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Speaker 13: and they have really done an amazing thing to make

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Speaker 13: the American people think we're failing in a RAN when

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Speaker 13: we're having one of the greatest successes ever. They have

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Speaker 13: command and control, centralized messaging, and it permeates all their

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Speaker 13: distribution channels with the right content that gets people to

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Speaker 13: think Democrats are better than Republicans. The problem on the

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Speaker 13: right is that we're like cats. We don't like to

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Speaker 13: be herded. We're very independent, and we don't actually see

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Speaker 13: government as the be all and end all. The left

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Speaker 13: sees the government as their ultimate aim. They are after power.

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Speaker 13: Most of the people on the right want to devolve

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Speaker 13: power out of government and back to the people. So

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Speaker 13: we actually need to do is be willing to form

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Speaker 13: a command and control to go on offense on key

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Speaker 13: issues that will properly brand the Democrats as to who

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Speaker 13: they are. Who they are when it comes to protecting

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Speaker 13: criminal aliens that are convinting violence here in the United States,

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Speaker 13: the whole men playing women's sports, gender transitioning of children,

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Speaker 13: want to get taxes into oblivion and preventing jobs growth

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Speaker 13: and investment in small businesses. Every issue that there are

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Speaker 13: those eighty to twenty issues. We need to go on

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Speaker 13: offense on those issues. President Trump is the first one

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Speaker 13: in a long time that has been better at going

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Speaker 13: on offense. But most of the time our side is

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Speaker 13: reactive rather than proactive. One thing, and the second thing

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Speaker 13: is part of the reason I wrote the book, and

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Speaker 13: I'm sending it out to a lot of my billionaire friends.

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Speaker 13: Is our investor class, our donor class, who are putting

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Speaker 13: tremendous amounts of money and many many sacrifices. I do

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Speaker 13: believe we'd have to continue to invest in the popular culture,

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Speaker 13: the media, entertainment. There's been a huge improvement shows like Yours,

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Speaker 13: the cable chap ear news channel, and all the rest

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Speaker 13: of it. We've had a huge influx of investments in

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Speaker 13: conservative media, but we have to do more to reach

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Speaker 13: that untethered voter who's in the middle or the soft left,

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Speaker 13: who's not going to see these channels. And then we

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Speaker 13: have to start to one layer at a time, peel

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Speaker 13: off capacity and popular entertainment as well.

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Speaker 4: John, we've just got about a minute left.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people notice when conservatives get

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Speaker 3: into office and then.

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Speaker 4: They really moderate. Why is that we got thirty seconds?

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Speaker 13: That's why I wrote the book and how I started

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Speaker 13: down this journey. Liberal conservatives get into office, they move left.

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Speaker 13: Liberals get into office, they just move further left. Why

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Speaker 13: would does nobody move to the right. It's because politics

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Speaker 13: is about pressure and the vice of the media, control

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Speaker 13: of popular culture, control and elite influancier control applies to pressure.

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Speaker 13: We need to build those capacities. I was just talking

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Speaker 13: about to get our handles on the vice and compete

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Speaker 13: for pressure in the system, to support people doing the

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Speaker 13: right thing and put pressure on people doing the wrong thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I hear a lot of people say where are

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Speaker 3: the conservative George Soros's and Noble Singham's And I think

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Speaker 3: that that is the type of pressure. It's money pressure.

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Speaker 3: Political strategist and author of The Political Vice. Everybody go

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Speaker 3: check out the book. John Tilman, always a pleasure to

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Speaker 3: have you with us.

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Speaker 4: Oh, John jam Pack show. A lot of things changing.

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Speaker 2: From that weekend. We're going on jam Packed. We get

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Speaker 2: beyond this.

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Speaker 1: Iran negotiations presence traveling this weekend. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a busy weekend for news.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and a busy weekend for me. I will be

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Speaker 3: at the White House on Saturday. I can't keep my

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Speaker 3: day straight.

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, Pool reporting on Saturday. So we will come

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Speaker 4: to you with more news. Everybody head over to justinnews

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Speaker 4: dot com for all of that. But have a great

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Speaker 4: night and we'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah,