1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five, 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hartunger. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to Best of both Worlds. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode two hundred and twenty seven, 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: which is airing in early December of twenty twenty one. 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about our goals for twenty 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: twenty two. Very exciting. We have been doing annual goals 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: setting episodes since twenty seventeen. Setting our goals for twenty 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: eighteen one half of the Best of Both Worlds duo 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: is very excited about goals. As everyone knows who listens 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: to best laid plans, Sarah is all about goal setting. 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: Our Patreon community is going to have access to a 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: wonderful goal setting experience with Sarah just excited about that. 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: But quick question, Sarah, do you remember any of the 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: goals you set in twenty seventeen for twenty eighteen? Oh, 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. So when we first did this fall of 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen setting our goals for twenty eighteen, my guess 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: is that, and we'll have to go back and verify. 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: I was pretty gentle on myself because I will have 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: would have been like eight months pregnant or nine months pregnant, 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: depending on when we did the episode. And hopefully I 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: didn't set super ambitious goals for my daughter's first year 29 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: of life because that I wouldn't advise my past or 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: anybody else to do that. So I'm gonna guess I 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: basically that year gave myself a break and said, your 32 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: goals are to not go crazy about pumping, and to 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: enjoy your baby, and to survive at work. YU survive. 34 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Survival is always a good goal. We appear to have 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: reached that bar, so that's good. Yeah. I don't even remember. 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what I would. I probably would 37 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: have talked about launching off the clock, like wanting to 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: be happy with that. You know, I often do things 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: like mommy days in the summer with the kids. That 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: was probably one of them. You know, I may have 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: had trips that I was excited about, although I'm not 42 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: so sure this. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: it's always kind of I was probably continuing with my 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: running streak. That was probably something I was attempting to 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: keep going with. But the point being like, not all 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: of life revolves around you know, we're not if we 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: didn't reach some goal from that we set in twenty 48 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: seventeen for twenty eighteen. We're not sitting here beating ourselves 49 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: up about it on the cusp of twenty twenty two. 50 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: And as Sarah sometimes says, like goals are here to 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: serve us, not to trap us. So we want to 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: approach this goal setting episode with that mindset, right, This 53 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: is all about things that we just want to keep 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: our mindset, you know, keep our minds focused on and 55 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: thinking about in the year, not something that we have 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: to feel bad about ourselves if we don't do or 57 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: make ourselves feel like we're somehow, you know, less than 58 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: if our goals are different than anybody else. So it's 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: just about looking forward and asking what the shape of 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: our year should be. Right, Yes, I do feel like 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: I have noticed that my goals have started to be 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: a little bit like variations on a theme. And maybe 63 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm past the point in my life where I expect 64 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: a goal to be something totally random, like skydive in 65 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Peru or something like that. And I'm okay with that. 66 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't mean that I'm setting like the exact same 67 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: goals because I'm failing to reach them. But when I 68 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: look back, I see a lot of parallels in my list, 69 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: and and sometimes I think that's totally okay, because things 70 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: like practicing mindfulness or having more fun with my kids, 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: those can be lifelong efforts you never really finish. But 72 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: to me, it's still valuable to take some time at 73 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: the end of the year to think about whether that's 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: still a priority for me, and some of those still are. 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess maybe that would make these episodes 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: a little boring because we're not going to be throwing 77 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: like really surprising things out there. I mean, maybe there'll 78 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: be a few surprises. I don't know, but I have 79 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: noticed that there is started to be a little bit 80 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: more patterns. Well, partly it's also that you are a 81 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: rational goal seter like when you set a goal, it's 82 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: because you want to do it. And in general, when 83 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: somebody has a goal that they want to do and 84 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: that is in fact a realistic goal for them, what 85 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: that means is that it's something that they actually could 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: do in their current life, like right now, as in today, 87 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: And if it isn't something that you do today, then 88 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: it probably isn't going to happen. I mean, I'm not 89 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: saying people can't make progress in things, but if you 90 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 1: think about like, oh, that sounds great, but not for today, 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's like, you know, the prayer of that 92 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: that Saint what like grant me constants and chastity, but 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: not yet, right, So if you're telling yourself but not yet, 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean it, maybe that's not a good goal for you. 95 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: It has to be something that you would do in 96 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: your life. And I'm not saying it's not fun to 97 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: set those pie in the sky sort of goals that 98 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: may or may not happen, but you know, there's a 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: tension between the excitement about that and the realism of 100 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: what would legitimately happen. And I think you know both 101 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: of us have come to a place where we're setting 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: a goal. It's because we want to do it, and 103 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: if we want to do it, that means we could 104 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: do it now. So this may be the Goals of 105 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: Middle Aged Ladies, not the world's most exciting goal setting episode, 106 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: but but highly likely that any goal setting episode that 107 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: any podcast puts out, because I just like hearing other 108 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: people's goals, and I'm sure I'm not like the only 109 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: one that has that particular interest. So even though the 110 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Middle Aged Ladies Goals episode sounds boring to you, I'm 111 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: sure it's very exciting to some, to someone, to someone. So, Sarah, 112 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: what was the the framework you have been deciding to 113 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: use for this year? Well? Two frameworks, I guess, so 114 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I have been doing for many years, inspired by Gretchen 115 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: Rubens Happier podcast. Okay, Well, backstory, I've always made like 116 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: long lists of goals, and if you go back to 117 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: something like two thousand and five, two thousand and six 118 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: on my blog, you'll see like eighteen goals for the 119 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: next year. I always write a long list. It doesn't 120 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: mean I'm trying to do eighteen separate large things. Usually 121 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: some of them are very simple. It just usually happens 122 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: to be somewhere between ten and twenty things that I'm 123 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: interested in thinking about for the next year, and so 124 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: when she started the whole I think it was like 125 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: eighteen for twenty eighteen. It was one of those years 126 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: I was like, Ah, that's actually like about a good number, 127 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: and I like the idea of having a number and 128 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: not just setting a nebulous like. However, many I feel 129 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: like just because I don't know, frameworks are useful, and 130 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: so I have been using the X for XX for 131 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: my framework, meaning nineteen for twenty nineteen, twenty for twenty twenty, 132 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: and so I decided I'd come up with twenty two 133 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: goals for this year. Some of them kind of have 134 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: sub goals, because you know, we're not going to read 135 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: all twenty two on this podcast, by the way, that 136 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: would be a lot. But then within that, I like 137 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: to set it up in domains kind of like you do. 138 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: And the domains that I use for my weekly goals, 139 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: my monthly goals everything these days is usually work, family, self, 140 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: and blog slash pod as like my fourth domains. So 141 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: I also kind of categorize them, and when I share 142 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: a few of them on today's episode, I guess I'll 143 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: do them in categories because that'll make it a little 144 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: bit more palatable than reading a million goals in a row, 145 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: although hopefully you can post all of them on your 146 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: blog so people can follow a lot, unless any are 147 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: particular or personal that you you don't wish to share. Yeah, 148 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, mine is my list. I mean, I will 149 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: confess I did this because Sarah said we're doing this episode. 150 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 1: So that should tell you about what frame of mind 151 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: I am in in when it comes to goals. These days, 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: I am keeping it somewhat restrained. I feel like twenty 153 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: twenty one featured a lot of big, long projects that 154 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: many of them are ending soon, which is great. However, 155 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: it has been a lot of building towards stuff and 156 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: keeping your eye on the goal. With a long project 157 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: with the home renovation, which you know, we signed the 158 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: contract in January, broke ground in March. We should have 159 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: the house to us at the end of December, which 160 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: means we can then move in for the start of 161 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: the year. But like all of those are huge things, 162 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, totally renovating a house, you know, 163 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: getting the current house ready to be listed, de cluttering everything, 164 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: getting it ready to move long long projects. I did 165 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: the whole of the Tranquility by Tuesday, research project, writing 166 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: the manuscript of the book, editing it. I'm coming back 167 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: for one more round of edits in December, but I 168 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: mean that's the whole course of the year doing that, 169 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, just even stuff like we got a puppy 170 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: in April, and so the course of him growing up 171 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: over the year has just been sort of a long 172 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: slog of a process. You know, some happy moments with 173 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: puppies obviously too, but it is you know, has some 174 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: similarities to toddler life, which is another thing that's been 175 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: going on all year, you know, raising a child from 176 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: turning one at the start of the year to two. Yeah, 177 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of long stuff. So I think 178 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: my goals are not going to be terrifically ambitious. I'm 179 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: not going to set too many of them for the 180 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: upcoming year. A few practical things. I no doubt we'll 181 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: do various things as I go, but I'm not setting 182 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: quarterly goals in all of my three spheres career, family, self. 183 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: Want to be very careful about also setting goals I 184 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: can control. I usually am careful about this, but you know, 185 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: just as a reminder, you know, there's a difference between 186 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: outcome goals and process goals, so you know, an outcome goal. 187 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: And I am not saying this should be anyone's goal 188 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: because I don't like this goal. But if you people 189 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: say I want to lose ten pounds, you know, you 190 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: may you may not. I mean, you could lose it 191 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: by getting a stomach bug. That's not really a great 192 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: way to go about doing it. Whereas the process is 193 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: things like I'm going to eat you know, fruits and 194 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: vegetables with all my meals, I'm going to move for 195 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: thirty minutes a day, I'm going to make sure I 196 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: get enough sleep. I'm going to you know, mostly drink water. 197 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Those are things that may or may not make you 198 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: lose ten pounds, but they're going to make you healthier regardless. 199 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: And there are also things that you can actively control 200 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: each day, and so generally we're better off focusing on 201 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: those rather than the outcomes, which which may or may 202 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: not happen. Hopefully are more likely to happen. Whatever you're 203 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: setting for yourself and not but not losing weight. You 204 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: don't need to lose weight, but you know, being healthier 205 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: is the thing to aim for. So anyway, just some 206 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: thoughts about that. Yes, you know, I don't want to 207 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: do any spoilers because we're going to do our year 208 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: in review. But I can think of a couple of 209 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: goals that I sent that were purely outcome goals, and 210 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: some of them ended up working out. But I'm just 211 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: thinking about it, and I'm sort of like those were 212 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: really arbitrary goals because I didn't even do anything to 213 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: make them work out or not. So that's a little 214 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: teaser for you to come with little teaser for something 215 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: to come. All right, Well, why don't we take a 216 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: quick ad break and then we'll get into the meat 217 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: of our goals for twenty twenty two. All right, Well, 218 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: we are back with our annual goal setting episode, looking 219 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: forward to twenty twenty two and thinking what are our 220 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: goals going to be? So Sarah, let's go ahead and 221 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: start with you. Why don't you share some of your 222 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: goals from your twenty two and you're a very sure okay, again, 223 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: not going to share all twenty two and twenty two, 224 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: but I selected a few from each domain yesterday that 225 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I decided that I would talk about a little bit. Okay, 226 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: So for work, again, not going to go into tons 227 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: of detailed work goals because I think that's just a 228 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: little bit outside the scope of this podcast. But one 229 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: work goal that I have is to go to an 230 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: in person conference. Now, again, that's a little bit of 231 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,359 Speaker 1: an outcome goal in that it relies on my institution 232 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: lifting travel restrictions that are in place right now, and 233 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: that is clearly not under my control. But it's still 234 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: a goal because I really really missed going to them, 235 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: and I think it would just bring some i don't know, 236 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: like connection back into my work that I feel like 237 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: I've been missing during this pandemic time. And I've spoken 238 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: before about how I don't really feel like virtual conferences 239 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: are a great alternative. I guess if I wanted to 240 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: turn that into a process goal, I would turn it 241 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: into submit abstract proposals to two conferences, because my guess 242 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: is that if I get accepted to present something and 243 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: the conference is not offered virtually and only in person, 244 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: I might be able to get permission anyway, just you know, 245 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: because they really want us to present things. So again, 246 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: oh go ahead, no, I was gonna say. And probably 247 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: part of that is like a professional fellowship goal too, write, 248 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: which is also something that you could control as well, 249 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: if like you want to be engaged with more people 250 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: in your profession. In person, like that is something you 251 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: can do regardless of whether there's a conference, right, Like, 252 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: that's that's something that you would have more control over perhaps, 253 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: but in person requires going places, right So I mean truthfully, 254 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: I could also just use my own funds and travel 255 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: to a work conference, but part of me is a 256 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: little stubborn and doesn't wish to do that necessarily. But 257 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: maybe I would because I really really really do miss it, 258 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: and if I had a poster accepted somewhere, I would 259 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: really want to present it. So I'll just make that 260 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: a goal and hope that it can happen. So that's 261 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: the work goal that I'm going to share here. More 262 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: of the goals I'm going to share are in the 263 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: self and family realm. So in this self realm, I 264 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: want to do another mini wardrobe improvement, and specifically I 265 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: want to focus on having better casual outfits that I 266 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: feel confident wearing, and to get some jewelry. I'm forty one, 267 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, how old am I? And I have very 268 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: few pieces of jewelry, and I don't mean like super 269 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: fancy jewelry. There's like a nice middle ground between the 270 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: jewelry that might be at the Dollar Store or something, 271 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: and fine jewelry, and I would like to explore that 272 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: middle ground, especially like smaller artists and brands or looking 273 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: at like art fairs and stuff like that, because I 274 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: just feel like jewelry can make an outfit look so 275 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: put together and if not, now when, like, I feel like, 276 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: now's my chance. So I want to get some jewelry 277 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: this ye I, this is going to be a funny one. 278 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: I would like to I'm got to say it. I 279 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: want to stay in one planner this year. Laura's like, okay, 280 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know where that was going. This is a 281 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: professional hazard for her, Like it's you know, it's like 282 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: saying I'm going to only wear black, and yet all 283 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: the greatest designers in the universe are sending me their 284 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: wonderful clothes, Like it's kind of hard to do. It 285 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: is hard to do, but I have missed just kind 286 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: of sticking to one system. To be fair, I've kind 287 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: of It's not like I switch every week, but I 288 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: have been switching every few months or so. And I 289 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: just want to really explore and dive deep into my 290 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: Hobo Nichi system next year. It doesn't mean, I won't 291 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: use other things as like adjuncts, but I just want 292 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: to like stick to my main planner. So that's a 293 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: goal for me. And then my third self goal that 294 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to share is that I think I want 295 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: to ramp up and try training for more running stuff again, 296 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: which is a goal that comes in and out of 297 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: my life in various phases. It's also very weather dependent, 298 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: so you know, the fact that the new year happens 299 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: when our weather's wonderful makes me all excited about it, 300 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: and then June hits and I'm like, what was that 301 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: goal for It's terrible. But our new house has room 302 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: to put our treadmill inside where it's air conditioned, and 303 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: therefore I think I might be more excited about running 304 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: in the summer than I have been in previous years. Plus, 305 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: my kids are finally at an age where if in 306 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: the afternoon they were playing video games, I could actually 307 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: very realistically do a run in my house and it 308 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a big deal. So I do feel like 309 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: I've reached kind of a new stage where maybe I 310 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: could build back some more running in my life. So 311 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to try to train for a 312 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: five k like try to train for like a faster 313 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: five k, and then maybe I will consider a longer 314 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: distance race in the fall or winter. So yeah, those 315 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: are my self goals. I think we should alternate because 316 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to just keep talking. Well also because 317 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to run out of them very quickly. All right, Well, 318 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: then my work goal is to launch Tranquility by Tuesday 319 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: in the fall. For those listeners who haven't heard me 320 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: yacking about this, this is my next book, Tranquility by Tuesday. 321 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: Nine Ways to calm the chaos and make time for 322 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: what matters, which is based on a time perception study 323 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: I did where people learn time management rules, implement them 324 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: in our lives, report back you know, spoiler alert, It works, 325 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: people feel better about their time. But anyway, I want 326 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: to be happy with the launch, and to that end, 327 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: I commit to doing three things each week to promote 328 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: it from now until when it comes out. Obviously, after 329 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: it comes out, I'll be doing stuff too, but ideally 330 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: I do more. I had, you know, had a conversation 331 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: with somebody many years ago talking about book launches, and 332 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, I'm trying to do something, you know, 333 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: like in the it was like a month before my launch, 334 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm trying to do something every single day, 335 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: and he was like, one thing, why aren't you doing 336 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: like five things twenty things every day? I'm like, well, okay, 337 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: I guess I'm just slightly less into self promotion than 338 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: some other people. But I do need to do it, 339 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: like hate it as I do, I do need to 340 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: do it. So ideally i'll do more, but as we 341 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: learn in Tranquility, by Tuesday three times a week as 342 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: a habit, so I need to at least do that, 343 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: and you know, that will lay the ground for bringing 344 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: it to as wide an audience as possible, because I 345 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: think it will be helpful. I am so excited to 346 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: read this book, by the way, like legitimately excited, and 347 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: I feel like we have to think about how we 348 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: want to do like a special episode on the podcast 349 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: or maybe some sort of book club episode. We'll have 350 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: to think about it. Well, that'd be great, very very 351 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: excited for this. That could be two things one week. 352 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: Very great. We've already solved that problem. I'll just do 353 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: you know, I can do my family ones and then 354 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: we'll go to you for a minute. My family goals 355 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: is to settle into our new home. We may be 356 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: moved by January first, it may happen slightly after that, 357 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: but it's going to be a transition. Like this is 358 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: just there's no way around it. You know, moving is 359 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: incredibly disruptive. I mean to all your systems, like, you know, 360 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: where are the keys, where are the you know, Zoo card, 361 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: the Zoom membership cards, where are the umbrellas, where are 362 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, everything, Like you have to rebuild all your systems, 363 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: and I want to make it feel like home, you know, 364 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: over the course of the year, make it really feel 365 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: like our place. And you know there will be all 366 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: sorts of things that come in with that. You said 367 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: you want to refresh your wardrobe. I mean that'll be 368 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: part of it. I now have a really lovely closet 369 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: with lots of space, so you know, it'd be good 370 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: to have clothes that I feel happy about having in 371 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: that closet rather than you know, the sweater with holes 372 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: in it from fifteen years ago. So just stuff like that, 373 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: and in general, you know, wanting to have more couple fun. 374 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: We did an episode recently on marriage and you know, 375 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: staying close with your partner through the busy years. I 376 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: think things are going to improve somewhat as Henry gets 377 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: older over the next year. He'll turn two at the 378 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: end of December, so he'll be three by the end 379 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two. And it does start getting better. 380 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean already he can be somewhat entertained by watching 381 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: a video for you know, five minutes before he gets distracted. 382 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: But it's just things do start to settle down a little, 383 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: You start to get some of that space back, and 384 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll use some of that for you know, just 385 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: having more adult fun. You know, I feel like that's 386 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: been something that we've had a lot less of for 387 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: various reasons with small children and the pandemic and so forth. 388 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, those are in that category. What's your next category? Well, 389 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: I'll do family too, to mirror years. So as everybody knows, 390 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: we are both moving on very similar timeframes. We close 391 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: in January and we're probably going to move in February 392 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: because we want to do some like extremely minor, like 393 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: nothing compared to what Laura has done renovations. Like our 394 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: renovations consist of painting and ripping out one area of carpet, 395 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: and I think we're going to call it good. So 396 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: we're excited about that. And my plan for settling into 397 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: the house, and I believe I made this goal last 398 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: year and I did not meet it, but I think 399 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm ready now is to go through the organized three 400 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: sixty five one hundred day program. And by the way, 401 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: I am now like a paying like I. Lisa did 402 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: initially give me the program and then I was like, 403 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: I love your stuff so much, I'm just going to 404 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: go all in and so I have paid for a 405 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: lot of her stuff now and I just really enjoy 406 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: it and I'm excited to go through the house and 407 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: look at all one hundred areas. And she does say 408 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: that if you do it three times, your house will 409 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: feel completely under control. So I'm going to do it 410 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: in this new place. So I'm very excited about that now. 411 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: In terms of kind of like kids and quality time, 412 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking about mommy days, but I think I'm 413 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: going to try something a little bit different and instead 414 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: aim for once a month to do like a post 415 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: work mommy outing, So that way I don't necessarily have 416 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: to take an entire day off and it doesn't have 417 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: to be like fun festival for the kid, which is 418 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: what it ends up being. But that way, I think 419 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: we could have some concentrated quality time, because I think 420 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: the issue is getting that one on one, which is 421 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: harder and harder to do. And so if I aim 422 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: for one kid, each kid once a month, that's like 423 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: three weeks out of the month that I'm doing like 424 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: a one evening thing. And I think that's doable because 425 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: our nanny's happy to stay and many times actually starts 426 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: her day pretty late, so it's not an issue to 427 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: have her stay a little bit later. So I'm excited 428 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: we're going to try that. And I would like to 429 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: host a couple of things this year, so hoping to 430 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: have a book club, maybe bringing back the parenting book club. 431 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: We will see that was so much fun, maybe with 432 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: some people who live closer to me now, although I 433 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: think some of my still, you know, forty minute away 434 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: friends would still be interested. And I want to have 435 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: at least one dinner party in our new home, which 436 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: I think will be doable and it'll be a nice 437 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: way to welcome some of our neighbors. We're actually already 438 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: kind of friends with the people who found us the 439 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: house in the first place, two doors away, so they'll 440 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: probably be our first dinner party. So very doable, but 441 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: I think we'll be rewarding and fun dinner parties would 442 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, we should do something in my new house, 443 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: have people over to my new house that, you know. 444 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: To get my head around doing that, well, I'll skip 445 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: to my self goal. I only have in three categories anyway, 446 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: So my self goals are two things. First, I want 447 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: to read through the entire works of William Shakespeare. Now 448 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: people are like, well, that sounds quite like a big thing, 449 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: and maybe it is, but I'm going to do it 450 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: in the course of a year, and our longtime listeners 451 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: know that I've been reading through War and Peace one 452 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: chapter a day over the course of twenty twenty one, 453 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: which it has about three hundred and sixty chapters. I 454 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: am nearing the end. I'm actually in the epilogue now, 455 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: but the epilogue has like thirty chapters. So that's why 456 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: I still, you know, reading through December towards the to 457 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: the end of the month, with much of his musings 458 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: on the nature of history. I really wish Tolstoi had 459 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: cut some of that, but anyway, so I've it's been 460 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: a very manageable pace. It only takes a couple of 461 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: minutes a day, and so you really absorb the whole work, 462 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: like you you know, really get to know the character. 463 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: You're not rushing through it. I have read Warren Piece 464 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: in the past, but I was trying to go quickly, 465 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: because when you've got a fourteen hundred page book, you're like, 466 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: I got to get through it. But when there's no 467 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: pressure to get through it because you know you're only 468 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: going to read a couple pages a day, he could 469 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: really pay attention and pick up a lot of stuff 470 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: that you wouldn't have otherwise. And so that's how I 471 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: want to do Shakespeare. I've obviously read a great many 472 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: of the plays. I've seen many performed. You know, I 473 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: had a job in college where I was filing and copying, 474 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: and I would listen to listen to his works on 475 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 1: a CD, like because that's the portable CD player, like 476 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: with my headphones while I was filing and copying. I 477 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: would actually, wait, I have to interject, because I had 478 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: like that same job. Okay, and you were listening to 479 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: Shakespeare and I was reading online transcripts of friends. So what, okay, 480 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: how does what even is that? Like? My job was 481 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: really easy. It was like nineteen ninety eight or something, 482 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: and I went to board dot com because obviously I 483 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: was bored. Yes, and they have like they had like 484 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: all the groups of friends so you could like read them. 485 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: But I just like when you said the Shakespeare say, 486 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't read while I was doing this job, right, 487 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: I had to. I was like physically making copies, and fine, 488 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: you could have been listening to anything, and you chose Shakespeare. 489 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: Like that says a lot about you. I'm very impressed. Well, 490 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: you know, it seemed like a good thing to do 491 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: at the time, but you know, so, yeah, I was 492 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: listening to performances of his plays, which is probably a 493 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: better way actually to experience it than what I'm about 494 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: to do with reading it. But you know, this is 495 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: what it is. I'm going to be able to look 496 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: more at the words and see the word play and 497 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: so anyway, I have a schedule somebody this is I'm 498 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: obviously not the first person to come up with doing this. 499 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I have a collected works of William Shakespeare, which humorously, 500 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: I've got to read this to you because it is 501 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: so funny. I'm showing Sarah the book, but it has 502 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: oney and twenty four pages purchased for three pounds and 503 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: ninety nine pence in As it turned out, there is 504 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: a little inscription on here that says, purchased at Stratford 505 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: on Avon, England by Michael Conway during the summer of 506 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, that it's so cute. I love that 507 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: so well, maybe you could if there's any performances of 508 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: Shakespeare that happened to go on in your area, or 509 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: perhaps maybe one in New York, you could like celebrate 510 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: by going to a couple of ye place. Yeah, no, 511 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: especially if I find one of the more obscure ones 512 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: like that would be really hilarious if you're like, nobody 513 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: ever performs that. But now I'm going today. Yeah, it's 514 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: only going to be i mean, ony twenty four pages, 515 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: it's only going to be three pages a day. And 516 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: there it's small print. I mean it's like, you know, 517 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: like King James Bible size print. But it's gonna be doable, 518 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: Like it's very very doable in three hundred and sixty 519 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: five days to read through all of that. So I'm 520 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: excited about that. Actually, that's gonna be gonna be cool. Finally, 521 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: strength training, which yes, I set this as a goal 522 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: like pretty much every year. But my goal is to 523 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: do the exact same thing I did this day, which 524 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: is to this year, which is to do something every 525 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: single day. And it's more that I'm trying to build 526 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: the habit and build the interest and as it comes. 527 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: As I'm a very stubborn person and so i don't 528 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: really feel like doing much, but I'm gonna just keep 529 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: building the habit of doing something and hope that some 530 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: days I will be inspired to do more by having 531 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: the habit of doing something. And you also, every day 532 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: this year I do at least you know, a single squat, 533 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: usually more, usually more, I do many other things, but 534 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, something and more when I can. So yeah, 535 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: those are my goals for the year. That is awesome. 536 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: I love it. Well. My one other category that I 537 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: have is blog slash pod, and I don't have any 538 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: growth goals, especially since we'll have to do another episode. 539 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I have left Instagram like for now, like maybe for whatever. 540 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, and so I don't know how growth 541 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: is going to go. But but I had a professional 542 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: that Laura actually is friends with or knows who is 543 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: going to help me write an ebook, meaning that I'm 544 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: not going to write it. I mean we're going to 545 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: write it together. But it's not really going to be 546 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: like as big of a project for me, as it 547 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: is going to be a collaborative thing. And so I 548 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: think there's a lot greater chance that it will actually 549 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: happen compared to years past, where it was like this 550 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: big side project that I was going to accomplish. So 551 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: I'm very excited about that. I don't have any specifics 552 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: to give you, like dates, but it will be based 553 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: on my best laid plans, work and ideas. And this 554 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: will be news to her because she's waiting to hear 555 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: back from me. So she hears you call her and 556 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: tell her, then I'll email her today. I mean, she 557 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: she had a whole proposal, and I was like, okay, 558 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: I'll let you know. So I like it though, and 559 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: I think I think it'll be worthwhile. And so you 560 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: heard it here first, and yeah, I think this is 561 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: one that I hating. I'm glad it's finally going to be. 562 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: The book is going to exist. That's great. And yeah, 563 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: as she said, I mean, you know, it was one 564 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: more thing to fit on your schedule and you're you know, 565 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: doing a lot of other things, so clearly this was 566 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: something that you knowired a little bit of help to 567 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: bring to fruition. You have the ideas, you just need 568 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: someone to execute on it, and that's that's the way 569 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: to go. So I'm very excited about this. Yay. So 570 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: that's that's my blog pod goal. And then just keep 571 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: all this fun stuff going, which is a goal in 572 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: and of itself. So those are our goals for the year. 573 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: I guess we have more, perhaps Sarah at us I don't, 574 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: but you can read all about those on her blog 575 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: obviously the shoebox dot com, so please be checking that out. 576 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: So we are going to go to our question section. 577 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: So I'm going to read it and then Sarah can 578 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: answer first and I will follow up with that. So 579 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: this is from a mom who has dialed back to 580 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: she's a pharmacist and she has dialed back to one 581 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: day a week doing that job. She is very happy 582 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: with the current arrangement, but she says that she feels 583 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: guilty because she is not setting an example for her 584 00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 1: kids of keeping a big job. So, Sarah, what is 585 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: your response to her and her feelings of guilt about this? 586 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: This one was hard, actually, it was a very long 587 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: question and I left out some of the details, but 588 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: part of it had to do with like, her mom 589 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: worked hard and is she living up to that. However, 590 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: she was pretty clear that she was quite happy and 591 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: it was more about feelings about what she should do 592 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: rather than what her family needed. And so my thought 593 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: is that she should just like not change anything just 594 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: because she feels guilty about the idea that she's not 595 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: living up to somebody else's prior example or idea. But 596 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: she could still emphasize to the family that her decision 597 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: to work less wasn't due to just her being the mom, 598 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: but due to just what felt right for her and 599 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: how she enjoys the arrangement and is glad for the 600 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: professional experience she got earlier on. I also have to say, 601 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: since this person is in the pharmacist field, that is 602 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: a career I'm guessing would be pretty easy to ramp 603 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: up at some point if you wanted later, so you know, 604 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: discussing that with your kids as well being like, Wow, 605 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: I chose a job that you know right now, I'm 606 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: really really happy doing it very part time, but in 607 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: the future maybe I'll do more later and maybe I won't. 608 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: And this is more of a lesson of like do 609 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: what makes you happy, rather than like follow some specific trope. 610 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know. My gut feeling was to really 611 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: like work hard, to let go of that guilt and 612 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: enjoy the arrangement if it works for you and your family. Yeah. 613 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean again, if you are happy with your life, 614 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: that is awesome and that is really the only thing 615 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: that matters. I think it, especially with something like this, 616 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: it is good to model the idea of keeping a 617 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: hand in the game. And so I'm really glad that 618 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: she did stay one day a week. I mean, obviously 619 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: you know whether she needs to work or not, you know, 620 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: in quotes, but just a model that, like you don't 621 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: completely opt out and retire and then have some like 622 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: moment where like, oh I need to figure out what 623 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: to do professionally with my life. Like no, No, she 624 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: kept a hand in. She's at a place where she 625 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: can scale up if she needs or wants to at 626 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: any point, especially with a career like this, where she 627 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: has gotten all this training she's maintaining and can you know, 628 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: do more in the future if she wants. I mean, 629 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: my one caveot obviously I didn't see the whole question 630 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: Sarah have paraphrased this for us in the notes, but 631 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: the fact that she was writing into us may mean 632 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: that there's some feeling in there, that there's some unmet ambition, 633 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: and precisely because she is working fewer hours than you know, 634 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: she theoretically could be there may be some space, I mean, 635 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: particularly as her children grow to meet some of that need. 636 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: And possibly not in the way of just working more 637 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: hours in the pharmacy, because maybe it's that she doesn't 638 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: actually really want to do more hours, especially if she 639 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: was doing a retail pharmacy type job. You know, it's 640 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: obviously different if you're like in a hospital or whatever, 641 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: but it's kind of the same thing like day to 642 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: day if you're in a retail pharmacy. And so maybe 643 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: that's really all she wants to experience of it. It's 644 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: a day or two a week. But maybe she could 645 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: become more involved in sort of the pharmaceutical industry, right 646 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: Like she could be involved in the industry association. She 647 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: could take on a limited time leadership role, right like 648 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: help with conference planning. That's something that would be a 649 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: limited timeframe, but she could you know, make that happen 650 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: and meet a lot of people that way and sort 651 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: of stay at the forefront of the field, even though 652 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: she's doing fewer hours than kind of the retail version 653 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: of it. That would all be developing, you know, other skills, 654 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: keeping life interesting, modeling, taking one's career seriously, no matter 655 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: how many hours she is actually working. So that would 656 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: just be my thought on that. I love it all right. 657 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: So love of the week, Sarah, what's yours? Oh? Mine 658 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: is so basic, But I've kind of changed up my 659 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: weekend routine and I'm starting to just pretty much accept 660 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: the fact that grocery delivery is just our normal right now, 661 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: and I love it. Every time it comes, like I 662 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: didn't have to go to the store. I could peacefully 663 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: sit on my computer as a meal plan and just 664 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: it all comes. It's like magic. Yes, I tip, well, yes, 665 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: I know, it's like an incredible privilege to be able 666 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: to to use this service, but it's very much worth 667 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: it to me, and I love it. That's great. So yeah, 668 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: my love of the week is that Michael has often 669 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: been grocery shopping with Henry in tow. The two of 670 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: them go grocery shopping, which is just a really nice 671 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: way to have Henry out of the house for an 672 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: hour or so. The two of them just go go 673 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: around the shopping cart, you know, do their thing. One 674 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: thing with having somebody else procuring groceries, you just have 675 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: to think about what you want and make sure that 676 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: those items make it on the list. And obviously, you know, 677 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: the more Michael does the grocery shopping, the more he learns, 678 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: like what I want, and so the things come that 679 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: are like, you know, I have to just own up 680 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: to the fact that I want him to purchase at 681 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: least one pint and possibly two of the Ben and 682 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: Jerry's non dairy fish food that phish that flavor it's 683 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: like chocolate with marshmallow guy caramel and dark chocolate fish 684 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: without any dairy. I haven't quite figured that out because 685 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: caramel is like usually entirely milk based and chocolate and 686 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: all that. But it's good. I don't know, it's awesome. 687 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: So and I have to start asking him to add 688 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: rotissory chickens to the thing, because he would you know, 689 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: it never would occur to him Viraro tissary chicken. But 690 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: I actually love them and I eat them for lunch 691 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: when I go to the grocery store. Some anyway, my 692 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: love of the week is having him do that, but 693 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: it was going to be the non dairy fish food. 694 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: But you know, I think I've said that before anyway. 695 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: All right, well, this has been best of both worlds. 696 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: We have been talking about our goals for twenty twenty two. 697 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: Please check out our blogs for more on this. Sarah 698 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: the shoebox dot com and of course, Laura vandercam dot com. 699 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: We will be back next week with more on making 700 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: work in life fit together. Thanks for listening. You can 701 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com or at 702 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and you can find me 703 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This has been the 704 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: best of both worlds podcasts. Please join us next time 705 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: for more on making work and life work together.