WEBVTT - Bishop Lamont talks industry rituals 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.640 We like to welcome you to another episode of the 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:08.160 Gainst the Chronicles podcast, and I'm big steal Jill. Y'all 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:10.720 already know what it is. Today we got one of 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.360 my homeboys. I don't like to use that word special guest, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.079 because the last few weeks we just had homies just 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.680 happened to be here and we said, you know what, man, 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.280 you're coming on the show. Today we got the homie Man, 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:22.480 one of the illest lyricists on the West Coast. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:22.759 Man. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:25.439 He was part of the group that just came in. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:27.360 They din't just come in, man, they kind of kicked 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:31.000 the door in, Man, the New West, Yes, sir, the 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:32.440 New West. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:33.440 I remember it was. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:35.879 Yeah, there was a lot of cats that was real 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:41.320 sick about that. And I guess he don't need no introduction, 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.600 so it speak Bishop Lamont, Bishop's cracking dog. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:44.560 To be here. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:45.120 Man. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:46.800 You know what, we might as well go into that 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.320 because we got two people here, because I know eight 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.960 was very much. It was one of those dudes that 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.800 was real vocal about what the fuck is these new 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.720 niggas coming in talking all this shit. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:04.920 For all all, there's nothing personal against any particular artists 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:11.640 or that I've never had any drama, so to speak, 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.560 with any new artists. I love any artists coming up 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:24.200 out the West Coast trying to uplift what we have 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.480 as far as music and the foundation of the West Coast, 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:33.000 you know. But as you know, some of us old cats, 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.720 we just had a took it a little a little 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:43.080 offensive by saying new West because we felt like we 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:49.200 were all West as a whole and what was changing 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:54.480 as far as new artists coming from the West Coast, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:59.200 we just wanted to keep it West Coast, you get me. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:04.440 But no disrespect to none of the new artists representing 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.280 the West Coast, because let's face it, you all got it. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:15.280 We all gotta advance, and we all gotta uplift whatever 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.440 is coming out of the West Coast and representing us 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.520 as a whole, because you know, a lot of people 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.440 kind of write us off every now and then when 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:30.400 we tend to not follow the trendy shit or try 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.440 to follow what's going on as far as hip hop concern. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:34.280 You know what I'm saying. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.720 Message, But first off, thank you for bringing up this conversation, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.799 because to have this conversation with you of all is 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.160 a blessing because we never had that back then. But 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.800 the first misconception about the New West was thinking that 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:50.400 we was excluding our big homies, our peers. We were 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.840 saying New West for anybody never got an opportunity. A 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.679 nigga could be fifty something years old. You could have 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.320 been the Ghost Riders or the producers, whatever it was 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.920 behind these other people were tired of being stepped on 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:00.840 and used. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:01.480 As X, Y and Z. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.440 And so that's what that rebellion was really about. And 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.120 it was only targeted at those that was hating on us. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.760 And that was Ice Cuban snoop at the time. Okay, 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.800 clearly that's what that was, and it was it was. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.760 It was crazy to see it happen, and I never 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.120 I never knew that exactly. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:23.200 Y'all felt like why did you feel? Because I never 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.960 you know, like I said, when it came to guys 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.280 like you, I knew what you was about, Enmanship. You 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.680 know what I'm saying. Uh, you you put your work in. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.120 You know a lot of the homies you knew about Bishop. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:38.120 You feel me so. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:39.080 And I was your. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.160 Biggest fan because I lived off climart and a laundry. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.440 I would be up at West Park and I would 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.080 be down there at the liquor store. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:47.320 You see what I'm saying. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen you. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.960 So there's a difference with the real ones that we 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:54.600 look up to and then others. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:55.760 That was like, no, fuck that. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.920 What we were frustrated about, though, was that why do 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.320 we have to keep going through this concentration camp. It's 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.839 not a thing of an institution. It's a thing where 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.920 I'm gonna use you for all your right and take 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.000 all your styles. I'm gonna use you for all your 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.440 producer ideas, your fashion ideas well. Once I've drained you, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.240 then I'll release you. But what would you look like? 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.880 You'll look like a replica? So why do we have 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.640 to partake that way? We are down to work with y'all. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.840 That's what we were doing. But when you don't want 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.840 to pay us, or you don't want to treat us right, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.200 or you don't want to you don't want. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.040 Us to have our space. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.960 I remember when Snoop told me on the phone after 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.200 it was done, shouts out to doada in and day one 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.640 for making that happen. But he put us together on 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.480 the phone and he was like, I want to apologize 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.479 for what went on with that, but I just felt 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.920 like it wasn't your time to be on the court. 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.440 Yet, you know what I'm saying. It's the little homies, 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:44.120 And I said, I understand. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.520 That, but it isn't your right to tell us that 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.200 if we can ball you up on the court, it's 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.200 our time, just like when it was your time and 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.560 y'all had to bust out from under easy. Even though 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.520 we didn't like the way that went down, that's what 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.120 happened because it was like a civil war to us 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.000 because we fans of everybody, so that's not what the 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.599 New West wanted. My principles was based on like the 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.719 barbershop picture, the on reaching over the wall. I believe 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.200 in bunch of Carter. I believe in Fred Hampton. You 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.760 understand the principles of each one teach one in reach. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.560 That's the movement, because the more people we put on, 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:14.320 the more. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:14.760 Power we have. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.400 Like the South, we was losing more niggas was having 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:19.880 to run to the East coast and get signed the 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.960 East Coast labels instead of having it thriving on the 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.440 West coast and having all this talent in our backyard 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.320 so we can fortified things and do it better than 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.640 niggas did it before. That's what it was supposed to 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.200 be about. But then ice Q started saying so much 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:33.479 shit and. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:33.800 Blah blah blah. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.200 I just went real left and they started picking sides, 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.120 sninking it was a agism. No, this is about niggas 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.920 having an opportunity to shine. All these niggas that never 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.919 got credits on albums, that never got their names on 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.440 what they wrote, that never saw no royalty checks. Fuck that, 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.680 we knocking down the doors. I'm up at the beach 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.640 trying to get every nigga on the radio, Twala. As 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.480 Twala asked Dorsey Fuller, I was. I was trying to 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.479 get everybody through the door. We go to Power six. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.120 I'm telling you, man, listen to all these niggas. Why 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.080 an't we playing West Coast niggas? That was the New 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.680 West movement. Kiki Loko was with us, All Blessings, all 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.160 kind of people was with us, Little ice Cube, I 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.000 can't remember all the cat that was with us, Dale 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:16.040 Ron so many OG's was was Jazzy. Jazzy Blessings to 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:20.680 Jazzy was navigating me. I had counsel with Elders. I 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:22.360 wasn't going against my heroes. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.440 So that's it. I'm gonna stop. Thank you for this. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.080 I ain't even thought about that ship year. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:34.000 I should definitely feel that because as a as an 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:40.719 artist coming up in that time, I never, you know, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:48.960 felt like I was even on that you know, Ice 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:50.960 Cube Snoop Dogg level. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:58.359 I used to. I never reached out to nobody's camp. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:03.240 You feel me Like, I guess just from day one, 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.960 I just like felt like, fuck it. It was just 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:10.040 me and Chill and Slip and I'm not gonna try 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.640 to give a demo to Cube. I'm not gonna try 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.040 to give a demo to Drake. I'm like, I'm like, 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:22.560 fuck it because I came up off hood mentality. It 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.120 was just me and the homies in the hood, fuck 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:29.240 everybody on the outside. So I never looked to go 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:35.920 get discovered by nobody else. So you know, did I 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:41.119 feel like, damn, come, I ain't you know the Ice 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:45.040 Cubes And I come like I felt like at a point, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:49.760 like what Nigga's blackballing the niggas because I'm spitting the 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:54.679 same get on fucking tails and I'm fucking preaching about 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.000 the tales from the hood, and you know, and I 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.160 wasn't about you know, let's go to the club and party. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.160 I was about like niggas getting shot on the blocking and. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.920 Let's say this on top of that, how dope is 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.080 it when we looking at can it all be so simple? 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.320 And your ass is right there with Wu Tang, then 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.040 you're on the y'all remix. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.320 That's a lot of respect from East Coast dudes. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.680 But that's how dope you was, and they recognized it, 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.880 and we saw that like he on he he universal. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.800 I got that was shot out pre boat shout out 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:30.800 Wu Tang, shot out old dirty, I mean, shout out uster, sir, 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:35.960 our motherfucking Pete Rock. Like I fucked with a lot 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.920 of East Coast dudes. I know, not that you know. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.760 I didn't fuck with my West Coast homies, but like 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.520 you said, I seemed to got more respect from you 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.600 MC Coast dudes, and. 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.360 That was me m C eight. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:51.719 I know what it is. I know what MC. When 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.960 I hear him rhy, I'm saying I studied, Yes, sir. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.920 See, at that time, the West Coast suffered really bad 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.840 from like what I call a quoted down syndrome. Everybody 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.319 that ever came out the West Coast that was successful, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.840 came up under the n W A family tree, right. 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.720 You know, they were either byproduct of doctor Dre. They 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.439 were either a byproduct of ruthless records they feel from 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.679 that bring as a matter of fact, Above the Law 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.520 had Snoop before Dre did. Yes, they had you know 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.720 Snoop and Warren. They was messing with above the Law 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.200 and they kind of took the whole g funk thing 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:27.040 over there, you. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:27.440 Know, to Dre. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.640 And that's how we used to have a lot of credit. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:33.760 We used to talk on the phone about it. Hutch 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.880 was put me up on all that in the real history. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.320 That's why it was so weird when you know, all 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.080 this stuff happened with Easy and all that. But that's 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.840 what happens with business and stuff goes wrong and it's 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.320 the wrong people in the mix. But yes, but that 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.520 was the problem because imagine, why does everybody have to 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:51.000 come under the. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:52.840 Umbrella of just these individuals. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.439 Let people go be their own people, because it's like 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.960 a molestation situation. They want everybody to get fucked No, 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.840 learn from the mistakes and let other people do better. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.480 Get off that sick disease and stop handling that down. 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.440 We need more success here. A lot of our young 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.760 cats that were on their way to success got murdered. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:11.400 Think about the. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.880 Young cats we had. Was it to teach me how 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:14.559 to dugy. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.760 That blessed big? 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.400 Why so it's like you think about this and opportunities 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.120 and how big these songs are going, and what can 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.400 change these children's lives and their families lives, and how 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.840 big we can go. It kept getting knocked down. That 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.720 was a whole other aspect of it. We got to 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.040 push and be able to get people other places. But 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:34.760 you know, when we go to Capitol or we go 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.240 to death jam, are you down with doctor Dre? Are 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.360 you down with Snoop? Are you down with so and so? 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.160 Why do we gotta be down with anybody? Why can't 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.000 you just listen to the demo? If you ain't got 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.199 no affiliations with any of those houses, they don't want 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:46.880 to sign you. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:47.360 You know what I mean. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:48.560 It was a lot of that back then. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:55.400 That's almost I was fortunate enough to like sneak in 0:10:55.520 --> 0:11:00.360 the side door. When when Easy and Dre and them 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.800 started cracking. You know how the labels due they sit 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:04.199 up and. 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.040 Go, oh we gotta ooh, that's cracking. We need to 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:08.359 find one of them. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.160 It was fortunate enough that I had a motherfucking you 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:16.000 know snake who was able to snake his way in and. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.120 Use the shoulder rubs. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:21.720 He knew from oh I know this cat, I know 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.840 this cat, and I know this cat. Listen to these cats, 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.760 you get me And they were like, oh so to them, 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.360 it was like we got us one of them, Like 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.800 we didn't actually fall from up under the easy umbrella, 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.240 but like a motherfucker was breaking in the house and 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.800 they left the motherfucker's side window. We was able to 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.920 climb through the side window before the whole trickle down 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.200 of you know, oh do you know easy, Yeah, you 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.440 know Dre do you know snoop or cube or you know. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.719 We was able to get a deal off of that, 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.800 and fortunate I was able to build off of that 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.280 to where I didn't have to wait to come up 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:08.640 under the the easy Dre cube umbrella. I mean, because 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.400 let's face it, that was the West Coast. You fell 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.920 up under those umbrellas. It was that in the area 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.120 was like holding on the gallows, and we. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.400 Missed the opportunity with them. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.880 You wouldn't support them when that high move was moving 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.079 big if we can just unify, we could put a 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.360 stranglehold on ship like the South did, like the New 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:24.880 York did. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:26.800 It's time for us to get some rings. That's what 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:27.760 the New West was about. 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:28.800 You know how we are. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.360 But it's just how we are as far as and 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.600 that's unfortunate for us, as far as you know. And 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.280 I don't know if you want to put that on 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.360 neighborhood ties or I don't know what it is, but 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.240 as far as with the West Coast, we just can't 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.040 do that ship, and we should, you know what I mean, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.240 We just I don't want to see that, and I 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.880 always want to ask. It's funny because if you did 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:56.120 come up under a nigga, you not fitly get with 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.440 that nigga, get you feel beat message all you go. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.040 I believe be subject to be held up under a 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:09.480 certain level. If you sign to a motherfucker, the big dog, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:11.400 I don't want you. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:11.719 Now. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.240 You got as much talent you probably you probably could. 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.720 You probably could lap a nigga on the on the 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.160 track a couple of times. And so if the big 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:26.040 dogs see that, they're probably gonna do whatever is in 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.760 their power to keep you at a certain level. You 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.080 ain't gonna get as much promotion. You're not gonna get 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.160 as much radio play. You're not Instead of seeing the 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.040 vision of I can promote this nigga, I don't give 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.720 a fuck. I sell platinum, So what if he selled 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:47.240 double triple platinum. That's more motherfucking money and my motherfucking cut. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:48.760 Because I'm a businessman. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:57.560 Let me ask you this, man, I'm at the speaking 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:08.479 how could you How didn't you wind up on Ruthless Records? 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.240 I didn't wind up on Ruthless because at the time, 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:19.560 like I said, my mentality was on some neighborhood shit. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:24.440 So Easy and them was from the East side of Country. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:26.800 I was from the West side of Content. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:27.800 You know. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.920 I just always had my own identity because of gang 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.960 banging and shit. Everything was about the hood. So when 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:41.200 it came to music and and doing shit like that, 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.880 like we like even though we was crip niggas, it's 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.120 like they was from over there. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.320 We from over here. So I didn't. I I never 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:56.000 pushed like all easy, sign me, sign me nigga. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.240 You know we hard we see him dub you know, 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.200 me and Chill woof the wom nigga, I just said 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.160 fuck it. And me and child just got to making 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.200 demos in the garage with the homie and I started 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.040 rapping about the hood, nigga hood, this hood, that hood, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.320 this hood that. So when it came time for us 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:21.400 too ready to get busy, we went like everybody else went. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.040 We went to lonzo Route. You get me. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.800 I went to I went to Lonzo's with some other 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.960 niggas and a known happened to be there. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:32.760 You get me. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.840 And like I said, when when you when you when 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.160 you got that mine of you know, greediness and you 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:40.440 know shit, and then you know. 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.680 It's the nigga that's talent right there right. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.760 And then you see the for ma, you see the 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:51.320 formation of Okay, easy cracking right now, that easy e 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.480 shit and that that ship that Linzo in them was 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:58.720 like fuck now they sitting up like these motherfuckers is 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:02.680 taking off. So just imagine a little seventeen year old 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.600 cripp ass height come walking through the door. You know 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.920 what I'm saying, And I'm like, nigga, the hood, this 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.520 nigga hood that and fucked the one times nigga we 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:15.000 sipping Thunderbird to block this and block that them niggas 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:15.600 was like ding d. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:18.400 Feel me. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.040 So like, that's how I didn't go to the easy 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.720 because Unknone was like, hen, come on, nigga, we can't nigga. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:26.440 I can't take. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:27.480 Belling through nigga. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:33.080 This motherfucking motherfucking blue Timbot boots on nigga, the khaki suit, 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.840 the sweatshirt. Nigga came in that motherfucker spitting about nigga 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.400 on the west side of camp. The niggas trag new 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.360 and Blue this and woofy wo them niggas was like, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:43.400 oh shit. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.160 Uh uh. 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.960 Aknone was like shit, hey, what's your name, little nigga? 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.800 And this is DJ Slip and Woofi Woo and the 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.840 rest was history. That's how I didn't come up because 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.880 they was already like they already had labels. A No 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.880 had Techno Hop, A No had all the hood shit. 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.560 A No one had keen t he had ice tea 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.960 he like he had the hood shit. So and I 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.000 used to listen to those records and buy those twelve inches, sir. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:17.320 So. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.720 I used to buy that little yellow twelve inch with 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.280 the red white and tech No Hop. So when that 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.280 nigga was like, yeah, that's my label tech No Hop, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.600 I'm like this nigga no ice tea six in the morning. 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:32.080 Message this nigga no keen t payback to mother and 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.400 if you're from compting, you better bring the gun. I'm 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.840 like this nigga know the niggas, So of course I 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.480 was like a fucking with this dude. And that's how 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.040 I didn't fall up under Ruthless. I fell up under Tech, 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:47.720 No Hop and Unknown. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.120 But you know, same shit, And that's crazy because when 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:56.120 you think back on it, Easy was poised to have. 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.959 If he wouldn't have had them cats wouldn't defected from 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.040 Ruthless records, right, he would have won. 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:06.040 That was Snoop, Warren g and all of them possible. 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:12.480 But if they all because but you gotta understand this 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.959 is what I say, and I'm sure you done went 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:20.240 through it because we all have. You get fucked when 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.480 you come into this business and it just trickles down. 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:24.520 You get me. 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.720 This nigga fucked this nigga, so he learns how to 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.159 fuck this nigga. He learns how to fuck this nigga, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.280 and so on and so on and so on. You 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.720 never have a motherfucker who go you know something, this 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.720 nigga write all his shit he produced his shit. 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:41.440 Whut he won't. 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.400 I don't do nothing but put his shit out. I'm 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.359 not finna take ninety percent of his money. I'm finna 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.800 give a nigga his money and then we gonna built 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.000 like that because this nigga gonna introduce me to this nigga, 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.679 so I'm gonna do the same. And now you're sitting 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.920 up like, motherfucking what's my nigga who was from Arrows? 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:01.919 Or my nigga Berry Gordy or. 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:09.080 Get me? Because you you you, you. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.040 Gotta learn you Sometimes you have to be good to 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:12.760 the artists. 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:13.800 Sometimes you got to. 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.040 But sometimes, like I said, when you come into this 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.240 rap game, I don't give fuck who you are. From 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.600 the time you start, you're gonna need a manager or 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:28.200 producer or a fucking independent label or production company or whatever. 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.399 And then they gonna sign you and you naive. You 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:35.000 know you want to get in. It's your dream. I 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.320 wanted like I was naive. I didn't know nigga. I 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.359 was seventeen y years and what motherfucker, I'm on the 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:46.480 block selling crack nigga. Nigga contract nigga here, I don't 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:50.200 know ship nigga. You might well like the easy video, Nigga, 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.359 you probably had to be a fucking forty out to 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:53.840 put a big rope on my deck. 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.920 And Nigga, what the game? I don't know. Ship, Nigga 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.360 taking your money for this? He taking your money for that. 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:05.480 But I'm my dream is like my nigga biggie said, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.159 I see my name on fucking right on magazine. I 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.840 see my picture, Nigga, Limos is coming and pick me up. 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:13.399 And Ship. 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.800 I'm walking around Sony music and ship like that, and 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.560 niggas is treating me like, oh hey, hey, nigga, I'm 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.879 walking through grabbing all kind of fucking CD. 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.000