WEBVTT - #19 Dean's Friends from Camp 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.280 Hell, I Suck Good Dating with Dean Angler and I 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:08.719 Heart Radio Podcast. Hello everyone, thank you for joining us 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.200 on this twentieth of February episode. I'm Dean Angler, joined 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:17.720 in studio by our lovely Erica and Easton No Mark Today. No, 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.760 my mic wasn't even on. I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.880 Daddy's away so you know that the kids will play 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.440 no Dad or Amy today, which is just the rarest. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:30.400 It's like the It's like an alignment in the solar 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.280 system or something that you only see once every eighty 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.040 five years. Um, here we are. We're also joined in 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.239 studio with a bunch of special guests, a bunch of 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:39.720 good friends of mine that we all met, I mean 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.120 on a silly TV show a couple of months ago, 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.680 The Love Help. You better be watching it because it's hilarious. 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.560 We're two episodes in. We have another episode airing tonight 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.239 and only one more to go on Thursday. Uh. Courtney, 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.120 Kevin and Leslie Murphy are all in studio with me today. 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:58.840 Everyone say hi, are you going alright? So a quick 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.080 rundown you guys, if been watching the show, you probably 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.280 already know most of them. But Courtney from Bachelorette Australia, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:11.520 Kevin from Bachelorette Canada, Leslie from Bachelor Shawn Lowe season USA. Um. Yeah, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.000 so let's go one by one and kind of I'd 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.080 love for you guys to be at to introduce yourselves. Again, 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:17.960 they've probably already seen the show, so they're familiar with 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:19.920 at least a little bit. But um, Courtney, if you 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:21.039 want to start, we'd love to hear a little bit 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.840 more about you. Yeah, where do I start? What a try? 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.399 Thank you? Um, well, yeah, you've probably seen the show, 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.040 and I'm sure you know a little bit about me. Uh, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:35.400 you're still that I kissed Lily. Yeah, maybe maybe it 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.600 could be good for the listeners to know what you 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.399 physically look like if they haven't seen this show. So 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.480 Courtney was about six ft seven, pure perfect teeth, just 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.120 sparkling white teeth things, just describing the most beautiful brown 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:53.720 eyes I've ever seen yours. It's literally in the first episode. Yeah, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.560 yeastily in the first episode. Uh, you'll have to waite 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.720 and see how that ends, because it does brutally you 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.240 end up hooking up with another cheek bloody great TV. Uh, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:06.560 stay tuned. Um, And then at the end of the 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.720 well you come in soon if you let me finish 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.840 Kevin stuff interrupting my time. This is my fifteen minutes 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.240 of fame. But I do end up hooking up with 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.519 Kevin at the end to hooks up with everyone on 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.520 the show. So great TV tune in. I don't know 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.400 more about myself. I I have a kids medical wristband 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.280 company and I'm given medical ristbands a way to kids 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.519 for free in America. Oh no, you did branch it 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.880 out into the US. Yeah. Yeah, so I've got the website, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.959 the US version built before I came over. Real quick, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.200 it's free Medical ristbands dot Com. Couldn't be any easier 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:39.959 than that. So if your kids have asthma, allergies and 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.120 a flax of epilepsi, your diabetes, it's just instant notification 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.920 in childcare, perfect and maybe share like a quick what 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.639 made you want to start that? I worked in childcare 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.400 for ten years, so as a childcare worker, it was 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.400 bloody difficult to identify. You know, you look after forty 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.640 kids on an oval or in school uniforms. They all 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.799 look the same and it's hard to identify conditions and 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.440 they are growing rapidly. So for me, It was about 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.320 just that mediate identification. And a kid comes to you 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.440 huffing and puffing, and you sit there and go, we'll 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.240 just you know, sit down five minutes. Here's a glass 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.760 of water. Little do you know that it's the early 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.640 signs of maybe an anaphylactic reaction or an allergic reaction 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.560 or an asthma attack. And so these wristbands really just 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.560 show exactly what's happening so you can take those first 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:29.000 care steps I suppose to avoiding sometimes a tragic situation 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.000 and wearing yeah yeah, yeah, I rock them all the time, 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.160 just a little bit of self motion. Really. Um, but 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.400 there do you have asthma analogies? I've got asthma, don't 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.600 have any allergies, so yeah, yeah, it's just pure fashion. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.680 I like to come up, which is a testament to 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.119 how good they look, because not only are they identifying 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.480 a condition that a may have, but that's a look cool. Yes, 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.800 thank you, and I'll get you one. Haven't got lots 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.400 of conditions? Can you get like a purple anxiety brieflet 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.160 because I'll just take that one Purple's epilepsy. But I 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:01.400 can create you a custom wristband. It just says, hey, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.320 with the blue. Yeah, there you go. Um, okay, so 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.520 there's Courtney Kevin. How about yourself? What do you want 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.320 to know? I would love to know just everything. How 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.480 How would Bachelor Nation know you? We know you're from 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.400 Bachelor Canada, I know, I know, we don't want to 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:15.840 get too deep into it. And because your stories are 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.479 kind of already shared on the show, but um, just 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.039 kind of like a brief rundown your firefighter in Canada. Yeah, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:23.920 I was in the military in my twenties. I was 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.000 a Navy scuba diver for for a bunch of years 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.200 at West UM. I got out the military became a 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.960 firefighter pretty quick. Um kind of settled it into just 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.000 a simple life, man. I'd like to just go to 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.680 the gym and go to go to work, you know, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.520 spend time with my family. I'm pretty simple dude. So 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.359 when the whole bachelorret thing came up, it was pretty 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.560 outside of my comfort zone. It was just kind of 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.000 a jump in. Don't tell anybody where you're going. I'm 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:45.560 sure you did the similar thing. You just go on 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.640 your own and and see what happens. Um, And how 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.400 did you get on the show? How are you like nominated? 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.239 My sister in law was actually watching Ben Higgins finale 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.360 and she texted me and said, how are you not 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.240 on one of these shows? And I was like, what 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:01.320 show are you talking about? Out and then uh, and 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.839 then I guess, I said, I don't know. I didn't 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:04.720 never thought of it. She happened to google it and 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.480 they were fully cast for Bachelor of Canada already, So 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.800 she wrote an email saying, my brother in law would 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.040 be great for your next season. So then they wrote 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.080 me and said send me some stuff, and then seventeen 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.760 days later we went and filmed. Well my question, So 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.360 they bumped somebody for two weeks before. So we've seen 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.520 crossovers from Canada come on in the US version? What 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.480 stopped you from coming on the US version? So Daniel 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.520 was on our season? Oh of your season? He had 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:31.279 to turn ours down to go one' yes? So why 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.560 would they pick Daniel over you? I didn't apply for 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:37.120 this was well before me. Um, Daniel applied for ours, 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.800 got onto ours, and then somehow when Joe Joe's season 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.360 reached out and said he was on, he got rid 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.080 of ours and came to you guys. Um I met Daniel. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.800 He's an interesting guy. He's very interesting. Yeah, I med 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.080 him a couple of times. Um. Okay. So at this 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.480 point were two episodes in the Winter Games we see 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.640 your first date with Bibiana. Yeah, see a bit of it, 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:58.479 just a little bit of it. Yeah, way enough, what's 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.360 funny about this? And we talked about she passionate, she is, 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.320 she is. Um. We talked about this quite a bit 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.440 amongst ourselves, but you don't really see much of the dates. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.600 It's funny because we worked so hard in these competitions 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.120 to win to get the date, and then they show 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.479 the date for maybe ninety seconds on on TV. Yeah, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.279 so it's like they showed your in baby's day. They 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.040 showed you making out at the end, and at this 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.000 point I think they've shown you and baby kind of 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.240 like ending things amongst yourselves. But even that as that 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.159 was like a couple hours and not a couple of days, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:25.520 and then they kind of make it like seem ten 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.000 seconds long, you know. Yeah, And there was a part 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.440 of our date. I don't know if I'm gonna get 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.760 in trouble, but we were we were one of like 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.640 a little dance part of our date. It was pretty cool, 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.800 like a town hall um country dancing, and it wasn't 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.760 on the episode, and Bibbie was pretty excited about that 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.040 because she worked a little bit. Oh it kind of 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.719 a little bit all these countries. Yeah, a lot of plaid, 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.400 a lot of cowboy boots. Yeah, they were they were 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.160 looking at Bibby. Babbie was the hot commodity in there. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.760 It's a pa shot that you guys never saw it. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:53.919 We got a little bit too. Bob tooken to that 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.479 next level. Um got you. And so now things with 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.599 you and actually are going well for the viewers as 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:01.840 they're watch seen the showing folds. Yeah, I think it's 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.960 going well. We'll see see how the next to go. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.120 It's gonna be fun to watch. It's fun to watch. Yeah, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.440 it is. It is good. Let's excited. Um, have we 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.480 seen as we cry at this point? Well, like, have 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.880 you seen Ashley? I guess because you've been breaking hearts 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.360 left and right, so I haven't seen it. I saw 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.840 actually crying episode one, and I had no idea that 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:18.200 she was crying. When I was leaving on my date 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:19.840 with Maybe she's trying to you and Ben, I think 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.680 at the dining room table and I had zero Yeah, 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.960 and I had zero clue she was crying to bench shoulder. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.760 I'm getting friend zoned again, friends, but I don't I 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.840 didn't see that. I was that ninive person. Just high 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:37.320 five and everybody, you're going on a date. Yeah, um okay. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.600 So there's Kevin and and last, but very not least, 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.920 we have Leslie Murphy, who is from Sean Lowsi's into 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.640 the Bachelor. She came in fifth place. Um that's all 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.280 I'm gonna say about her because I might have a 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:52.080 bias opinion. So Leslie, do you want introduce yourself? Hi, guys, 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:56.400 I'm Leslie. I am five seven and brown eyes and 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.280 I'm a thirty years old Um, and that's what I 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.280 look like off camera. But I'm sure hopefully you've seen 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.000 some episodes of Bachelor Winning Game so far, and um, 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.480 you may recognize me from a few years ago on 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:12.480 Sean this season, and I hold a world record, which 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:17.720 is my claim to fame longest on screen. Wait you 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.400 still hold it like no one. I don't know. I 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.280 think I swear And I was going to ask you, Courtney, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:27.120 because I think Bachelor Australia set out to beat that 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.400 record a few years ago, or at least that's what 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.560 I really twitter. Yeah, I need to look into that 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.320 because if I don't hold that, is there a record 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.400 for longest on podcast kiss because that could be broken today. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.559 That could be broken today. You never five minutes of 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.720 silence and going to be slopping of mouths for the 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:51.520 next Um. Yeah, I'll double check those facts for you. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.640 But Espelians hold my world record, So it wouldn't suppose 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.720 that's that's the worst thing you've ever hold on you. Sure, 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.480 then one thing I did as good at everything? Whoa 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.800 little bro. There's a lot more Canadian listeners than Australian 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:09.280 listeners right now, So if we're talking games, the Australians 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.320 are way low. Everyone's seeing the show. I understand that 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.840 I want everything sci fi like and gentlemen. I continue 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.880 to win everything, so I stay tuned the more gold 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:22.680 medals for Australia. Okay, So so back to Leslie. So 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.200 Leslie was from Sean Lowe season. Um, you were great 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.959 friends with Katherine and I know you talked about this 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.840 at great links with with other people on other podcasts before. Um, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.840 but they got married and you were a bridesmaid in 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.880 her in their wedding, right A little weird? How is 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.800 that a little weird for I think most people involved, 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.440 except for Catherine because she just I don't know, she 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.840 does a really good job of separating, um, their relationship 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.000 and our relationship. But for me, you know, this was 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.680 I guess technically my ex boyfriend and then I was 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.440 in his way where you were a bridesman at the 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.720 bachelor's wedding. Yeah, I did not know wedding. I did 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.440 not know that. You want to be funny, since you 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.880 and Sean set the record for world's longest kiss if 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:12.360 they reset the recording, everyone else's like. She was like, no, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.959 I'll give you this one. Yeah, that's amazing. I don't know. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.480 I don't know if anyone else has seen this. I 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.280 know that there were like certain teasers for it. But 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.520 Courtney on his time of Bachelorette Australia the way because 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.560 you made it hometowns. You were the fourth fourth place 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:30.680 finisher for your season, right, um, and you were pretty brutal. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.560 Because I go around a little bit about this, I 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.800 love you now. Can I see myself loving you in 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.679 two weeks? I don't know. Probably not, most definitely not. 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.960 I'm tapping out. I mean, look, it's it's it's one 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:45.560 of those things. I mean, I I set out on 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.160 the show just to be a hundred percent myself and 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.120 be honest and not sail or do anything I wouldn't 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:52.800 do or say in the real world just because I 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.880 was on a television show. Uh. And I made that 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.760 very clear to her. And I mean, look, we had 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.240 a we had a good connection, and I feel we 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.080 had probably the strongest connection out of the four guys 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.000 who were left. UM. And it was a shame that 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.960 she was so adamant at standing there at the end 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.400 and saying that I love you and you guys know 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.800 how much time you get with each other on these shows. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.040 And I've never watched the show before, never spoken any 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.880 ex contestants or anything. Didn't realize how little time he 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.719 spent with her. Oh him, yeah, that's a little bit 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.520 again in Canada, um. But so yeah, I think just 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.960 being there and have been there for two months and 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.360 only having you know, three dates including my hometown with 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.440 her ah. And I don't know if Australia is different, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.360 but you have a lot of separation time even though 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.719 you are on single dates. And so for me, it 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.040 just wasn't enough to say I love you, and some 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.400 of the other boys were and they were saying those things, 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:49.560 and I don't know if it was they were saying 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.400 those things to stay there longer, but I was like, 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.400 I like you, and I'm keen to see where this goes. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.160 I want to spend more time with you. Let's get 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.280 to the end and say we like each other and 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.800 then go on the real world and transform that lock 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.839 into love and look, and I'm sure if you made 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.040 the right person and the research things love, i'd love 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.920 at first sart and whatnot. But it didn't happen for me. Yeah, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.080 so I'll tell you. I was. I said I love 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.959 you during my hometown date, and I wanted to say 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.319 it two weeks earlier. Really, yeah, you out? Yeah, just 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.319 so there's there's also a time where like it was 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.839 just you know, beautiful. Yeah. I think it would work 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.400 for some people, But I feel like that bachelor bubble 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:25.719 is so easy to get caught up in, which is 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.440 impressive for Courtney and Leslie because you're spending you know, 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:30.559 you don't have I don't know if you guys have 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.480 your phones nothing, no phones lately. You basically are just 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.520 spending all day, every day for two months talking about 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.560 how great this person yeah, and then you're like, Okay, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.199 like I really have real feelings for it. So like 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:40.760 the brutal honesty that you guys were able to I 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.520 guess um maintain is impressive. But I want to pass 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.680 it over to Erica because Erica is is the biggest 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.679 Bachelor probably I've ever met. Dean just like realized like, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.800 oh no, this girl watches It's like I remember back 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.319 to the first Bachelort I was probably like, I'm only 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:58.920 twenty four now, so I don't know I was young. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.920 I just how is it different coming into like the 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:06.760 Bachelor Nation world in the US versus Australia. Well, I 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.560 feel like me and you differ a little bit because 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.520 it's like Bachelor US is huge in Canada, Like I 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.680 think our ratings in Canada are minor compared to what 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.280 like Canadians watched the American and wait to even air 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:24.960 the American version is right, yeah, because yeah, we don't 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.320 get the signals. So I mean it's a little surreal. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.079 Because I've explained this a few times. Showing up on 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.719 the first day, I recognized half of the cast, right, 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.240 Like I had watched Dean on Rachel's season, I had 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:39.120 watched Eric, Eric I think I started watching Nick season 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.960 because that was the one aftermine, So I watched everyone since. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.520 So I recognized Dean, I recognized um, a few of 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.480 the girls I didn't know less. They didn't know Claire, 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:50.040 I didn't know Ashley very well. I just need their faces. Um. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.480 So it's pretty overwhelming when you go in, Like I 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.160 knew who Ben Higgins was, Like I knew he was 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.760 the bachelor. Everyone knows who bad and he's so damn 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.800 tall and handsome. He just just can't not notice them. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.319 But it was fun because we were we were all unknown, 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:02.960 So it's fun to be in the house with all 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.959 these guys because nobody knew us. And yeah, that was 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.040 the most part. Yeah, like did you guys going in, 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.760 You're like, who the heck are these people? I was 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.280 google doble before though. I found out, like you guys 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.880 because uh tweeted you out. Yeah, you tweeted me out 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.120 about a month before we filmed. Me and Jordan's the 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.400 guy from New Zealand tweeted our pictures out because I 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.360 actually actually told me she was like she knew everything 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.840 about me on the first day. It's pretty intimidating too, 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.280 because you meet like a bunch of these other people 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.160 from other countries and like Courtney's tall, Kevin's like super 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.320 buff um, and like all you can really do is 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.360 be intimidated by these guys who you don't know anything about, 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:38.880 but you just know that they've been on the show 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:39.960 in all the countries you know, so it's like the 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.920 first thing you walk into the mansion, for me, I 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.800 was like holy caw, Like I'm terrified. Like all these 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.760 guys are, you know, professionals in their careers, and they're 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.720 all like athletic and they're all handsome, and it's like 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:49.840 the more you get to know them, like the more 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.240 you understand them for their quirks and like they're they're 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.240 I guess what makes them them Like they're not all 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.960 just like Superman exactly so, and it just takes a 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.840 little bit of time. And with the international component as well, 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:04.520 like they had accents when you travel, Like I traveled 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.160 through Eastern Europe for a month last year with my 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.920 roommate and we met like a lot of Australians and 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.440 all of them were like the coolest people I've ever met. 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:10.680 So I'm like, all right, Courtney's going to be a 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.720 hard thrive, like he's gonna be the coolest guy here 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.080 because everyone loves the Australians and you met me. Yeah. Yeah, 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:22.200 Actually I was like, um, what's funny about the first 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.240 episode is I know that you and Lily hit it 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:25.600 off early, but I didn't know you guys share to 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.600 kiss that first or second Yeah. Well, look, I think, 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.880 um sort of going back to the way I held 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.000 myself in the Bachelorette, and we are in this environment 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:40.960 where everything is feel film, and it's kind of it's 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.080 I feel like we mean, Lily had this really solid 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:45.800 connection and more sold than the connection I had with 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.200 the Bachelorette in Australia, which kind of blew me away. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.160 And I really didn't expect to meet someone like her 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.720 in this situation, and so for me, it was kind 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.840 of about trying to remove ourselves from the whole environment 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.840 so that she knew that the way I felt about 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.480 her with the first kiss or whatever wasn't just for cameras. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.000 And it wasn't because we were in the spar and 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.080 there was two cameras there, and there's guys on booms 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.720 and they're kind of sitting there clapping, going and it 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.240 wasn't like a set up environment. So I actually walked 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.520 around the house and tried to find the quietest area 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.760 where there was no cameras. Um. So when I felt 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.720 like the time was right to to kiss her, I 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.240 was going to take her there, which is what I did, um, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:29.000 so just so she knew it was genuine. Um, yeah, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.200 it was. It was at the top of the stairs 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.360 outside the women's door room. I thought to myself, if 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:33.440 things are going to go to the next level of 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:39.680 the bedrooms right there, so it's n't even gone sure, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.560 and then she went through the Maybe that's what you see, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.360 um because I think when we first got up to 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.440 the top of the stairs, I did notice there was 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.480 one of those DOMI cameras, but it was facing the 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.760 other way. And then we were kissing for a little bit, 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.040 and then remember stopping. We'd stop and we talk again, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.160 and then we'd sort of kiss again, and then yeah, 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.200 one time I looked up it was facing right at it. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.440 It was very endearing. It is super cute. Was from 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.200 the Heterosexual mail. And it's funny too because you see 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.120 those little dome cameras around. There's probably what like twenty 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.399 of them spattered throughout the house, and there's always so 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.000 much going on that you never think that those little 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:15.680 dome cameras are going to pick up what you're doing. 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:17.480 But there's all an you like you're like, who's watching 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:18.679 me right now? Like no one's watching me? But then 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.119 there always is someone that's watching you. So it's like 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:22.600 you can try and get away like you said you did, 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.000 and it's like it's definitely reassuring when there aren't camera 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.119 men or camera people holding camera in front of your 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.879 faces so I can see what, like that's how they 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:39.200 catch you actually doing things. There's yeah, like you know that. Yeah, okay, Leslie. 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.080 Also question for you, what made you decide to come 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:45.280 back to like Bachelor World? Great question, good question. It 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.679 was when I heard there was going to be an 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.080 international cast. I was pretty sold on that and the 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.800 fact that, um, the fact that it was a Brandon show, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.000 no real stigma around it, and we were doing Winter 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:01.000 Games and I love that, and um, yeah, I don't know, 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.080 I was. I didn't really have to think about it 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.320 too much. Have you been asked to go on other 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.280 spinoffs before I have? I got asked to Paradise a 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.639 couple of times, and it's kind of a waiting for 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.600 the right moment. It's a hard pass, had pass. Yeah, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.960 I just one for me. I don't know, um, but 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.280 I'm glad. I'm glad to turn that down for that. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.399 It was a nice hiatus. But I'm back. Yeah. It 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.720 was a couple of years. When was it was five years? 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:34.160 Just a couple That means I was you my freshman 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.840 year No no, no, no, not my freshman year of college, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.360 but somewhere around them. So my roommates and I cheered 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.800 for you. I remember, Yeah, yeah, totally, Um, we're going 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.760 back to that. Didn't you want Aria as your bachelor? Yeah? 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.320 Is not what I heard. I'm back, yeah, because because 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.280 I went on right after Sean and Ari's season with 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.920