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Speaker 3: Here we go, Jim Hoy, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Into another episode of Stupidity, the biggest podcast in the

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Speaker 3: We're cheating.

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Speaker 2: I don't even care if you'll listen to the goddamn

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Speaker 3: I do care, Honestly, I do care.

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Speaker 5: Mike can I just point out the irony that you're

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Speaker 6: To listen to.

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Speaker 3: Should we do it again? Take two? Let's do it again?

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Speaker 3: Give it in three two?

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Speaker 2: What Welcome into another episode of Stupidity, the biggest podcast

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Speaker 2: Listening is no longer optional, it is mandatory.

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Speaker 4: Have they.

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Speaker 3: Now you feel better?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: Jim Bones mckag is going to join it.

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Speaker 6: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I have said this for as long as I have

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Speaker 2: been on the air, that's twenty years. There is one

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Speaker 2: thing consistently that I have said throughout the years that

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Speaker 2: is the truth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just what okay?

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Speaker 2: And that is that Master's Week is my favorite week

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Speaker 2: on the sports calendar. We had Tom Rinaldi on earlier

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Speaker 2: this week. He was fantastic. Augusta is getting underway this week.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. And Jim Bones McKay was on Phil

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Speaker 2: Mickelson's bag for twenty plus years.

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Speaker 3: He is my favorite golfer.

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Speaker 2: Mickelson is and that makes Bones my favorite caddie and

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Speaker 2: he's going to join us, and I am super excited.

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Speaker 3: Mike, are you feeling it?

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Speaker 4: It's Master's Week, Michael Man. Let's bring that excitement too,

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Speaker 4: Jim Bones McKay.

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Speaker 3: Right now, all right, very exciting. This is my favorite

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Speaker 3: week on the sports calendar. It's the only thing in

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Speaker 3: my career I've been consistent about, Chris. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's the only thing that I've been

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Speaker 2: Master's Week is the favorite week on my sports calendar.

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: It is the only thing You've been honest?

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Chris. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Jim's honest. Jim Bones McKay joins us here.

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Speaker 2: Legendary caddy will talk about what he's doing at just

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Speaker 3: Really a legendary golf figure.

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Speaker 3: Do you consider yourself to be a legendary golf figure?

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Speaker 7: No, I don't. I don't consider myself to be legendary

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Speaker 7: But you know, caddying and now the TV thing, but

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Speaker 3: Why was it lucky? Explain the luck involved?

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Speaker 7: Well, certainly there's some luck involved in caddying, you know.

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Speaker 6: Well, I will say I got lucky with my nickname.

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Speaker 6: You know, I you know, I've got a nickame.

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Speaker 2: I guess how'd you get the nickname? It came from

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Speaker 7: We were determined France, and we were It's like a

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Speaker 7: He had no idea what my name was because I

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Speaker 7: just started caddying, and he started screaming out these random names,

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Speaker 3: You're a caddy, you're not fucking Freddy's waiter.

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Speaker 7: The good thing is that we are very very close

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Speaker 7: his lawn time daddie Joe, who now caddies for Tiger.

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Speaker 7: We've all been the best of friends for years. And

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Speaker 7: one of my favorite things about Fred is that, you know,

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Speaker 7: when he if he went to one hundred dinners on

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Speaker 7: So we spent a lot of time together over the years.

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Speaker 7: So I'm glad I got it from him.

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Speaker 6: Tru or false.

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Speaker 5: Fred Couples will be on the leader board of the

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Speaker 2: There's always a cagey bet hanging around after the first

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Speaker 7: You know, Yeah, I can't argue with that. I mean,

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Speaker 7: certainly gets really jacked up to go there and play,

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Speaker 7: you know, certainly getting towards whatever age he is now

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Speaker 7: can't imagine. There's a lot of terms he gets keyed

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Speaker 7: it'll be a shame, you know, the year he stops

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Speaker 7: Tiger loves him. They play practice rounds together all the

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Speaker 4: Bones.

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Speaker 2: How is it if Freddy Couples was on this zoom

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Speaker 2: right now? Okay, he would and I'm saying by far

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Speaker 2: he would look the youngest of the five of us zoom.

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Speaker 4: How's that possible?

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Speaker 6: You know, I tell you you're right.

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Speaker 7: He you know, he's he's got those good jeans, those

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Speaker 7: you know, he's just that guy. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: he's a fun loving guy. He certainly gets plenty of rest,

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Speaker 7: we all know that. But he's just such a lovable person.

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Speaker 7: Love having around and and and again, you know, whether

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Speaker 6: He's just one of the all time grats as far

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Speaker 2: Bob if he can help us out, because it is

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Speaker 2: my favorite week on the sports calendar.

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Speaker 3: I love the event. I love everything that surrounds the event.

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Speaker 2: If you could, we had Tom Rinaldi on yesterday who

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Speaker 2: has covered many, many Masters tournaments, and I asked them

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Speaker 2: the same question, if you could describe for us in

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Speaker 2: the audience, what makes this week and that place so special.

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Speaker 7: I would say it's the most beautiful course in the

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Speaker 7: no matter what goes on with television, it'll never do

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Speaker 7: uphill everything is, downhill, you know how green it is.

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Speaker 7: Everything's perfect. You'll never see a piece of garbage on

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Speaker 7: and have to pay way more money than you should.

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Speaker 7: It's the most classy event in sports, I think. And

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Speaker 7: the members, there are some great folks there that are members.

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Speaker 7: They treat everybody incredibly well. It's just special. And uh,

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Speaker 7: you know the fact that you know it's that major

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Speaker 7: again that's played on the same course every single year

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Speaker 6: There's just the history is crazy.

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Speaker 7: You walk across the bridge Ben Hogan's Bridge, this is

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Speaker 7: where you know Faldo did this, or Tiger did that,

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Speaker 7: or Babba hit the wedge, shot out of the woods

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Speaker 7: something amazing, you know, given the history of golf happened there,

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Speaker 7: and it just it just reeks of it when you're there,

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Speaker 7: and it's it's just a fantastic place to be able

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Speaker 3: Oh and what would I have to do to play there? Like,

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Speaker 3: tell me, like, you're gonna get me in there? Meet

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Speaker 3: you and Chris and maybe Phil. What do you think?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, are you friends with Goodell?

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Speaker 7: I mean he's a member there, right, I mean I

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Speaker 7: think I read this week that man there they you're out. Sorry, okay, okay,

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Speaker 7: you know all you need is one, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, if you if you bump into Condolleza Rice somewhere,

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Speaker 7: you know it's But I will say they're incredibly friendly.

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Speaker 6: A couple of my best friends are members there.

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Speaker 7: They hang out in the caddy house with you and

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Speaker 7: eat you know, egg salad sandwiches and tell stories.

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Speaker 6: It's it's a blast.

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Speaker 2: Right well, listen, I was hoping that maybe your best

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Speaker 2: friends would become my best friends. Maybe it's worth a shot.

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Speaker 2: I want to play a weird game with you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: a weird game. The winner gets ten million dollars. Okay,

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Speaker 2: ten million dollars.

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Speaker 3: It is you.

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Speaker 7: So it's no secret that Phil likes to play golf

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Speaker 5: Who makes these rules that Tiger gets to go first

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Speaker 7: There's plenty of ego out there, but you know Phil's

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Speaker 7: and bolts of it in terms of carrying the bag,

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00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 7: raking a bunker and telling the guy he's got one

443
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,359
Speaker 7: sixty eight. But the question is that when your player

444
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,359
Speaker 7: is standing in the fifteenth fairway at the Masters and

445
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,119
Speaker 7: there's wind in and he's got adrenaline pumping through his body.

446
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,399
Speaker 7: Can you help him decide on the right club, knowing

447
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 7: full well that you know, he might win the Masters,

448
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 7: and he might look incredibly silly, you know, not winning it,

449
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 7: depending on how it goes. So it's all about how

450
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 7: you do and those really really big moments. You got

451
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 7: to take care of your person. You get there, you're

452
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 7: there before they get there, you're there long after they leave.

453
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 7: You better know the golf courses inside and out. You

454
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 7: better know your player inside and out. And you know

455
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 7: it's how are your communication skills? A lot of it,

456
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Speaker 7: I think is about the economy of words. I mean,

457
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Speaker 7: if we've got a big decision to make and se

458
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Speaker 7: got you ask me what club I like, I better

459
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Speaker 7: be able to tell you in about ten words or less.

460
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Speaker 7: Otherwise I'm just going to add to the stress of

461
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 7: the moment. And so it's like that. But you know,

462
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 7: if you're in it for the money, you're in it

463
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 7: for the wrong reasons. It's a traveling circus out there,

464
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 7: a great relationships, great times. At some point, a Caddy's gonna,

465
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 7: you know, write an incredible book and people aren't going

466
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Speaker 7: to believe all the great stories all the things that

467
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,120
Speaker 7: go on out there, and it's just I was incredibly

468
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 7: lucky to get out there when I did, and to

469
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 7: work for a guy that won majors and you know,

470
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 7: played in twenty two team events, eleven Ryder Cups, stuff

471
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 7: like that.

472
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Speaker 2: I was a spoiled rocket by the way, you won

473
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Speaker 2: the ten million dollars or so you know with your story.

474
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 3: Okay, But I.

475
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Speaker 2: Only asked that question because it leads to this. Have

476
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Speaker 2: you ever given Phil or any other golfer you were,

477
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: you know, mostly been on Phil's bag, But have you

478
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 2: ever do you have a story where you gave him

479
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 2: maybe the wrong advice and Phil got pissed at you.

480
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 7: Well, you know, the great thing about Phil is, and

481
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 7: I don't want to get too kind of technical here,

482
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,719
Speaker 7: the great thing about Phil was he's a very responsible player.

483
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 7: So we're standing in the eighteenth hold and I tell him, man,

484
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 7: I love six iron. I love six iron. He likes seven.

485
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 7: But he goes with me and he had six iron

486
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 7: and the hot dog stand over the green and we

487
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 7: lose the tournament. He was a guy ultimately that would

488
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 7: say that's okay. I was the guy that took the

489
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 7: club out of the back So if you were a

490
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 7: player that takes responsibility like that or like Tiger does,

491
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 7: like a lot of the top players do, it's a

492
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 7: great quality to have because those guys tend to not

493
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 7: underachieve in my opinion. And so Phil was responsible. Did

494
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 7: I make mistakes? Absolutely?

495
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: I did.

496
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 7: Hopefully I made you know, got things you know, right, way,

497
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 7: way way more than I didn't. And you know, I

498
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 7: think things went well as a result. But I mean,

499
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Speaker 7: I don't care who you are, who you caddy for.

500
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 7: You butt heads out there, you argue, but you know,

501
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 7: hopefully you're on the same team and you just try

502
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 7: and do better.

503
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Speaker 3: The next day, Were you on the bag for the

504
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Speaker 3: two thousand and nine US.

505
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Speaker 6: Open, the one at beth Page.

506
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Speaker 2: I was, yeah, yeah, can you can you put us?

507
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Speaker 2: That's the one where Phil what driver on eighteen?

508
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 3: Correct?

509
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 6: Now that you're talking about wing foot in O, I'm.

510
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 4: Sorry wing foot?

511
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Speaker 3: Oh six? Yes? So can were you on the bag?

512
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Speaker 3: O six? Wing foot? Yeah?

513
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 7: I worked from the first twenty five years of his career,

514
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 7: and certainly you know there are there are. The funny

515
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Speaker 7: thing about that day is and I certainly get asked

516
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 7: about it a lot, and and you know, that was

517
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 7: a decision he made based on what went on prior

518
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,959
Speaker 7: to the round of the Thing I tell people all

519
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 7: the time is, you know, if a guy walks to

520
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 7: the first T and tells you, hey, man, I don't

521
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 7: have it from a ball striking standpoint, and you're just

522
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 7: trying to manage that, you know, you make decisions accordingly.

523
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 7: And that's what went on on that eighteenth T. But

524
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 7: what surprises people is they say, boy, that just had

525
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 7: to be a bitter pill, and certainly it was. It

526
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 7: really stung, and it stings to this day. But it

527
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 7: doesn't sting nearly as badly as when you play really

528
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 7: well and don't win. So like when he lost to

529
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 7: Payne Stewart in nineteen ninety nine, or lost to Goosen

530
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 7: and Shinecock in O four. Phil played great and he

531
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Speaker 7: didn't win. That hurts way more.

532
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 3: Were you trying to talk him out of driver though?

533
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: Like can you take us on that eighteenth tee box

534
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: the US Open, because it's the one.

535
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: That has to haunt him, as you mentioned till this day.

536
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 7: You know, I can't betray his trust in terms of

537
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 7: what specifically we talked about. But you know, basically I

538
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 7: would just say to anybody that questions what went on there.

539
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 7: For anybody to assume that he was going to take

540
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Speaker 7: out less club and make this majestic swing in the

541
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Speaker 7: middle of the fairway, It is asking a lot on

542
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 7: a day when he was troubling with his ball striking.

543
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 7: So what he did that day, he would do again,

544
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 7: And I wouldn't change anything I did.

545
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 6: That's just golf.

546
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 7: But I also will say too, what people don't realize

547
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 7: is that the t shot certainly was very poor, but

548
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 7: it was the second shot. You know, we ended up

549
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 7: getting a good break off the team, and the second shot,

550
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 7: you know, we got into more trouble. What was funny

551
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 7: to a degree and kind of ironic was when I

552
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 7: went back there for the US Open last year, I

553
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 7: realized that had somebody not put a concession stand where

554
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,239
Speaker 7: they did that day in two thousand and six, our

555
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 7: ball would have gone into all a fairway on another

556
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 7: golf course and we would have had an unobstructed view

557
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 7: towards the eighteenth green and probably won the tournament. But

558
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 7: the fact they put the hot dog stand where they did,

559
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 7: the ball bounced off it and went in the trees,

560
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 7: you know, you don't win the event.

561
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 6: So it's funny how golf is.

562
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: Find out who that person want was, fire them, Chris go.

563
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 5: Now you mentioned Phil is always great about when you

564
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 5: would make a mistake. Kyoways kind of took responsibility. But

565
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 5: do you have one mistake that you made over the

566
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 5: years that just sticks out at like a yard of

567
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 5: that you just misread You grab the nine instead of

568
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 5: the six. Well like just like the worst mistake you

569
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 5: ever made.

570
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 7: The worst mistake I ever made was at that US

571
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 7: opening against Paint Stewart in nineteen ninety nine. On the

572
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 7: seventeenth hole, they were tied and they both stiffed it

573
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 7: on this parts three down the hill. Phil hit it

574
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 7: to about ten feet, Painted it to five or six,

575
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 7: and Phil brought me in for the read there, and

576
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 7: I thought the ball was pretty straight and you could

577
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 7: tell it broke to the right. So Phil messes pain

578
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 7: makes to go up by one and beats us by

579
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 7: a shot with the pot on eighteen.

580
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Speaker 6: And you know that's cadding.

581
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 7: If you caddy out there long enough for a good

582
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 7: enough player, those things are going to happen. It stings,

583
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 7: But you know I've got some Master's flags and the

584
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 7: British Open flag on the wall next to me and

585
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 7: I'll get over it.

586
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: Put us there when Phil won his first Masters, knowing

587
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: how much that tournament means to all.

588
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: Golfers, but especially to Phil. Put us there when he

589
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: won the first one.

590
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 7: Just incredible, you know, so much heat because he was

591
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 7: having trouble winning his first one, Tiger shows up. They've

592
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 7: become that much order to win.

593
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 3: You know.

594
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 7: You're in the last group on Sunday at the Masters

595
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 7: and he gets off to a poor start. She's thirty

596
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 7: eight on the front nine and makes this incredible par

597
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 7: put on ten and then just goes nuts. Bertie's five

598
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 7: out of the last seven to win by one, birding eighteen.

599
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 7: It was incredible and incredible relief, just the joy, you know,

600
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 7: for him getting that monkey off his back, you know,

601
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 7: winning a tournament that I think when he was young,

602
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 7: he watched the Masters. I think it was in like

603
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 7: nineteen eighty and he turned to his mom and said,

604
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 7: I'm gonna play golf for a living, you know, based

605
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 7: on what he'd seen. I think Ballisteris may have won

606
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 7: that year. It was incredible. You want to hear another

607
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 7: funny story.

608
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: Oh please?

609
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 7: So you get done with your player and you know,

610
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 7: as a caddy, you can't leave. So Phil wins the Masters,

611
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 7: and you go see Jim Nance and you go talk

612
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 7: to the press, and you go have dinner with the members. Well,

613
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 7: if you're a caddie, you sit around with the clubs

614
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 7: until all this is over. So I'm sitting down on

615
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 7: a bench outside Augusta National Golf Club waiting to see

616
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 7: Phil again and so I can throw his clubs in

617
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 7: his car and we can all get out of there.

618
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 7: And by the time I do, I think it's and

619
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 7: I see some rustling. Now this we're now it's I

620
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 7: don't know what time it is, but it's been hours since.

621
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 6: I've seen Phil.

622
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 7: And I see some movement over by his car, and

623
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 7: so I pick up the bag and start walking towards him,

624
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 7: and I can kind of see Phil, and there's three

625
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 7: grown men with him. And as I get closer, I

626
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 7: realize I don't know who any of these guys are.

627
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 7: And that's surprising because I've worked for Phil so long

628
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 7: I know everybodyon is inner circle. So as I get

629
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 7: closer and closer, they're now hugging. I'm like, well, this

630
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 7: is weird. You know, Phil's hugging these guys, and you

631
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 7: know I've never seen him before in my life. So

632
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 7: I get there, I throw the bag in the car,

633
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 7: shut the thing and leaves and I come to find out. So,

634
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 7: as you guys know, if you win the Masters, you

635
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 7: know you're downstairs in the locker room. You take care

636
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 7: of the locker room guys. But once you win the Masters,

637
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 7: you move upstairs to the Champions locker room and you

638
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 7: never go into the regular locker room again. Well, those

639
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 7: guys he were hugging with the locker room, the locker

640
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 7: room attendants from the regular locker room, and he tipped

641
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 7: them so much money over the years. These guys are

642
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 7: now losing a tremendous amount of cash because Phil was

643
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 7: going up to the Champions locker room. So they were

644
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 7: basically in tears and distraught that Phil had won the Masters.

645
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 2: What a great story, got, Lefty, I mean Chris Lefty,

646
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 2: the Lefty's all that. Wait, So I'm wondering, what's the

647
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: best tip or gift he's given you? Uh?

648
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 7: Wow, you know, you know he always took great care

649
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 7: of me. The following year we got to the Masters

650
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 7: to defend in five, and he gave some people in

651
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 7: his inner circle a green faced rolex with something special

652
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 7: inscribed on the back of the watch. And you know,

653
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 7: I'm you know, I'm never gonna own a Rolex in

654
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 7: my life for crying out loud.

655
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 6: I'm a caddie.

656
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 7: And to have one with an AUGUSTA Green face on it,

657
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 7: I mean, are you kidding me?

658
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 6: So that was pretty.

659
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: Cool, unbelievable.

660
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna play a quick game, get you

661
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Speaker 2: out of here. You've been great and you've been gracious

662
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Speaker 2: with your time. But first, tell us about what you're

663
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Speaker 2: doing with AON because it sounds like you're doing some

664
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Speaker 2: wonderful work. The AON Risk Reward Challenge holes for the

665
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Speaker 2: PGA and LBGA. Tell our audience about it and tell

666
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Speaker 2: people how they can help.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's fantastic. It's just something really cool to get

668
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Speaker 7: plugged in. It's called the Aon Risk Reward Challenge and

669
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Speaker 7: it's basically what a ON has done is they've picked

670
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Speaker 7: a hole at each event that these men and women

671
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Speaker 7: play over the course of the year on their tours.

672
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Speaker 7: And it's all about, you know, strategy and decision making.

673
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 7: So you play that whole four times over the course

674
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Speaker 7: of the week. They let you, you know, take your

675
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Speaker 7: two best scores. They average out over the end of

676
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Speaker 7: the year, and the winners on both tours, both men

677
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Speaker 7: and women, make a million bucks. And you know it's

678
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 7: and it's I really love it because I'm a caddy,

679
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 7: and it's all about, as we've talked about, the strategy

680
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 7: and the decision making. You get on these very iconic holes,

681
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Speaker 7: whether it's the tenth at Riviera or the seventeenth out

682
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Speaker 7: here at the Phoenix Open, where all kinds of craziness

683
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Speaker 7: go on, and Brooks kept chipped it in for Eagle

684
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Speaker 7: on his way to the win this year that not

685
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Speaker 7: only won in the tournament, but put him in a

686
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Speaker 7: great position relative to the a On Risk Award Challenge.

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Speaker 7: So it's just a lot of fun. The players and

688
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Speaker 7: the caddies are really tuned into it, and it's just

689
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Speaker 7: a really cool thing to keep up with. Is the

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Speaker 7: players make their way through their respective tours over the

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Speaker 7: course of the year.

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Speaker 3: That's a great job by you.

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Speaker 2: Bone. All right, we're gonna play and we'll continue to

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Speaker 2: promote that as we continue on here. Quick game, but

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Speaker 2: we'll get you out of here. Kay, You've been awesome

696
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Speaker 2: and I hope to have you on again. Bones are

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Speaker 2: no bones, Okay, bones are no bones, all right, the

698
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Speaker 2: guy who dresses the part but doesn't play the part.

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Speaker 2: I have a guy in mind. His name's Mike Ryan.

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Speaker 2: He's our executive producer.

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Speaker 6: Bones or no bones, No bones on that one.

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Speaker 4: Good. I have a feeling you be no bones at all.

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Speaker 2: These guy who was making excuses before he steps up

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Speaker 2: on the.

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Speaker 7: First d There's plenty of those no names, And I

706
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 7: always get worried on the tour when you see the

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Speaker 7: guys in there and the equipment trucks on Wednesday, the

708
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Speaker 7: day before the tournament, who are getting something reshafted or changing.

709
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 7: You know, those guys always kind of freaks me out.

710
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Speaker 7: So I'm always looking for a guy that loves their equipment.

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Speaker 6: As you say, no excuses, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Chris, I know you have a quick question. Let

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Speaker 3: me get through these and then we'll go to you.

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Speaker 3: But I was hitting them so well on the rain.

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Speaker 3: Bones or no bones, me man.

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Speaker 6: I got my member guest in two weeks and I

717
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Speaker 6: will use that. I promise you.

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Speaker 3: The bones. Wow, shocker, that's good.

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Speaker 4: Bones are no bones?

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Speaker 3: The guy on the green five feet away, Hey, you're good.

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Speaker 6: It's a Ryder Cup year. No bones.

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Speaker 7: You're not getting that from me breakfast balls. Bones are

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Speaker 7: no bones, minimum two off the first t absolutely bones.

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Speaker 4: Yes, really, Nicholson take breakfast balls.

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Speaker 6: Come on, let's be on better than me. Man, are

726
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Speaker 6: you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: I'm all right, Chris, go ahead if you have a

728
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Speaker 2: quick question.

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Speaker 5: I'm just curious other caddies, like, is there beef ever

730
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Speaker 5: between other caddies. What's something another caddy can do during

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Speaker 5: a round that might annoy you.

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Speaker 6: That's a good question. I will say. The Ryder Cup

733
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Speaker 6: can get a little shippy. You know.

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Speaker 7: You just can't talk enough about how important an event

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Speaker 7: that is and how much the players are into. And

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Speaker 7: it drives me crazy when people say all the Americans

737
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Speaker 7: just don't care as much to the Europeans, that's why

738
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Speaker 7: they haven't one of much one as much.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's just the opposite.

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Speaker 7: You pour your heart and soul into that event and

741
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Speaker 7: it means a tremendous amount to everybody, especially the winning part.

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Speaker 7: So you know, I've seen guys, you know, players and

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Speaker 7: caddies get a little chippy there. Certainly, if you feel

744
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Speaker 7: like another caddy is getting your player's way, that would

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Speaker 7: be a problem. But it's a fraternity out there. My

746
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Speaker 7: best friends are caddies. I've got Jordan SPI's caddy, Michael

747
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Speaker 7: Grella coming in for that membery guest I just mentioned.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I love those guys and girls, so it's

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Speaker 7: it's a great group. And uh, I'd never I'd rather

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Speaker 7: hang out with caddies than anybody else.

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Speaker 5: Now you don't have to name names here, but there

752
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 5: is one caddy out there that every other caddy is

753
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Speaker 5: like this guy.

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Speaker 3: Was walking through lines.

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Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, but I want them to name names or

756
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Speaker 2: is it you?

757
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Speaker 7: Until this show comes with adult beverages, I can't go there.

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Speaker 2: This has been fantastic. Thank you, by the way. Being

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Speaker 2: in the shower or no bones?

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Speaker 6: Say that again?

761
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Speaker 4: Peeing in the shower? Bones or no bones? No how

762
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Speaker 4: about the pool bones or no bones?

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Speaker 6: I got my kids wouldn't have me, man, I can't.

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Speaker 2: Get all right, get out of here.

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Speaker 3: A great work with aon Thank you for your time,

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Speaker 3: very gracious. I hope to do this again. Man, this

767
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: is a blast, and I look forward to the invitation.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna call me one day.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go play augusta happy Masters.

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Speaker 6: Make to everybody?

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Speaker 4: What's your give me your dream?

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Speaker 2: Perfect scenario Sunday Final Pairing at Augusta this Sunday, Bones

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Speaker 2: McKay wants to see who.

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Speaker 7: I'd like to see. I certainly think that DJ and

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Speaker 7: Speed are the two favorites. I'm not you know, that's

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Speaker 7: nothing out of this world in terms of, you know,

777
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Speaker 7: surprising people.

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Speaker 6: This speech story is amazing.

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Speaker 7: This is a guy that, if I'm not mistaken, when

780
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Speaker 7: he played the Phoenix Open in February on the gambling sites,

781
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Speaker 7: was one hundred and twenty five to one to win.

782
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 7: So he shoot sixty one that Saturday and has just

783
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 7: you know, obviously trended up and up and up, and

784
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Speaker 7: he's still not all the way there, he said at himself.

785
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Speaker 7: But the great thing about it is at Augusta, you

786
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 7: don't have to be perfect off the tee. You've just

787
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Speaker 7: got to be really good with your irons, keep the

788
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Speaker 7: ball around the hole. So I'd love to see DJ

789
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Speaker 7: Speith and on JT, who I think is the other

790
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Speaker 7: third favorite.

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Speaker 6: In the mix.

792
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Speaker 7: This is what I'm doing is pray for no rain.

793
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 7: If it doesn't rain, it could get crispy, it could

794
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 7: get dangerous. It'll be so much fun to watch if

795
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 7: we get a dangerous Master's which were we looking like

796
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 7: we could get, you know, considering what looks like early

797
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Speaker 7: in the week.

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Speaker 5: A love a dangerous masters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he does it. He likes the weather, he

800
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: wants see the colors, he wants to be pure man.

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Speaker 4: DJ's arrived at that place.

802
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: I remember Tiger and his probably would say, listen, my

803
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: best is better than everyone else's best.

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Speaker 4: And I think DJ is there where. If he's got

805
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: his game, his.

806
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: Best is better than anyone else's best.

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Speaker 6: I think right now, you know I can't argue with that.

808
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 7: I'll say this, He's the most feared player in the game,

809
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 7: and nobody can ride a wave of momentum more than him.

810
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 6: I won't argue with your point all but I.

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Speaker 7: Will say I think that Justin Thomas is the most

812
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 7: skilled player in the game. Two different things. Justin's got

813
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 7: more shots, he's got length, he's got wedges. But again,

814
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 7: you know, typically in my experience, other than with Tiger,

815
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 7: you get a guy playing well, they play well for

816
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 7: two or three weeks. You know, Dustin can rattle off

817
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 7: six or eight weeks of phenomenal play. You know, it's

818
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 7: the way he carries himself. He can intimidate guys, and

819
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 7: he's the most resilient player in the game. I can

820
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 7: go out there and do TV, you know, at whatever event,

821
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 7: and the guy's made a double bogie half an hour ago.

822
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 7: You bump into the fairway and he goes, hey, man,

823
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 7: what's going on?

824
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 6: He's just that guy.

825
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 7: He brushes everything off and as you guys know what

826
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 7: major is, that's an incredible quality to have. And again,

827
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 7: if you get past him, there's a great chance you're

828
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 7: gonna win.

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Speaker 3: Bones.

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Speaker 2: This was fantastic, man. Thank you so much for the time.

831
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Speaker 2: Continue the great work with aon and what you're doing there.

832
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 6: But thank you man.

833
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: This was this was dream come true stuff for us,

834
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Speaker 2: and we hope you enjoyed it them.

835
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Speaker 6: Thanks fellas. You guys take care god.

836
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Speaker 3: I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that so much.

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Speaker 2: Mike, you were kind of like headed into Jim Bones McKay.

838
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Speaker 4: I asked, were you excited for the Masters?

839
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm wondering if Jim Bones McKay got you any

840
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: more excited for the Masters in AUGUSTA this week.

841
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: You got me from a man to a man. Mike.

842
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: One other question for you. You sounded I don't know

843
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: what's happening with your internet. Perhaps it's the microphone you

844
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: sounded a lot like Chris Cody.

845
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: During that interview. That was Chris Cody.

846
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: It was stupidity,