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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Tuesday, January twentieth and a complicated, unfortunate, ugly,

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Speaker 1: shocking and yes sad family drama is playing out for

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Speaker 1: the world to see. And it's happening to one of

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Speaker 1: the most famous families in the world. And with that,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's a stretch we're talking about the Beckhams.

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Speaker 1: This is certainly the couple, but by extension the family.

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Speaker 1: Are they not one of the most and even long

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Speaker 1: term most famous families in the world.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's Sir David Beckham as well. And then obviously

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Speaker 2: this is a power couple and not just a power

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Speaker 2: couple of power family. They have been extremely public. Obviously

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Speaker 2: they were celebrities in their own rights, but yes, when

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Speaker 2: they came together, their marriage, their business empires, their family,

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Speaker 2: their children.

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Speaker 3: This is I think short of the Royal.

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Speaker 1: Family are the UK. Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Probably the most famous family definitely in all of England.

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Speaker 1: And we've known about them. They've been married decades at

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Speaker 1: this point, have they not. Yes, and four kids and

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Speaker 1: to I haven't said this out loud in a while,

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Speaker 1: but to put it in context, he is one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest footballers ever and led them to some of

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Speaker 1: their greatest successes. They're playing for England. She was a

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Speaker 1: member of the Spice Girls, yes, and they were came

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Speaker 1: together at a time where they were at the heights

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Speaker 1: of their fame and of their individual accolades, and they

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Speaker 1: brought those two together.

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Speaker 2: And then to see Victoria become a fashion icon and

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Speaker 2: she is a businesswoman and a designer and people didn't

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Speaker 2: think she'd be taken seriously. So these are people who

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Speaker 2: have excelled, who are at the top of their games.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we know David Beckham and his football history and fame,

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Speaker 2: but he has turned.

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Speaker 3: That fam into a platform.

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Speaker 2: He's philanthropic, unist piece obviously on ads everywhere. These are

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Speaker 2: people who have tons of money, a huge platform, incredible

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Speaker 2: success and talent and seemingly we thought kind of a

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Speaker 2: perfect family. That is what is portrayed, or has been portrayed.

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Speaker 2: There have been rumors in recent months and we can

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Speaker 2: get into that about a falling out, but now unfortunately

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Speaker 2: those rumors have been confirmed.

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Speaker 1: So let's move forward to where we are here. Now.

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Speaker 1: They do have four kids. Their oldest is named Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: How old is he Brooklyn Beckham is twenty six years old.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty six to the boy, and this is the

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Speaker 1: one that for several months, I don't even know years,

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Speaker 1: but there have been I shouldn't even say rumblings, but

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Speaker 1: there have been signs even the family has given him

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Speaker 1: included about there being some type of rift in the family. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is no longer rumors, This is no longer his hearsay.

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Speaker 1: This is no longer just a tabloid story. He has

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Speaker 1: gone on and written what I would say, just short

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Speaker 1: in which he is absolutely blasting his parents for their behavior,

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Speaker 1: how he's treated him and his wife and robes Key.

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Speaker 1: Here he says he does not want reconciliation with his parents.

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Speaker 1: This is explosive stuff for this family, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to go through with you folks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's shocking, it's jaw dropping, and yes, Brooklyn Beckham

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Speaker 2: has sixteen point four million followers, and he put this

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Speaker 2: is still up guys, as of this recording. I think

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Speaker 2: Instagram stories last for twenty four hours, and as of

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Speaker 2: this recording, it's at our nineteen so it's still up

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Speaker 2: for all to see, and it begins like this. I

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Speaker 2: have been silent for years and have made every effort

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, my parents and.

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Speaker 2: Their team have continued to go to the press, leaving

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Speaker 2: me with no choice but to speak for myself and

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Speaker 2: tell the truth about only some of the lies that

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Speaker 2: have been printed. I do not want to reconcile with

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Speaker 2: my family. I'm not being controlled. I'm standing up for

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Speaker 2: myself for the first time in my life.

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Speaker 1: He goes on for my entire life. My parents have

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Speaker 1: controlled narratives in the press about our family. The performative

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Speaker 1: social media posts, family events and inauthentic relationships have been

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Speaker 1: a fixture of the life I was born into. Recently,

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Speaker 1: I have seen with my own eyes the lengths that

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Speaker 1: mostly at the expense of innocent people, to preserve their

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Speaker 1: own facade. But I believe the truth always comes out.

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Speaker 1: That was the first page.

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Speaker 3: That was the first page.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And then he gets into specifics about the rift

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Speaker 2: and when it first happened. And look, if you have

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Speaker 2: him and his wife, Nicola Peltz, she is I believe

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and he begins life like this. My

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Speaker 2: parents have been trying endlessly to ruin my relationship since

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Speaker 2: before my wedding, and it hasn't stopped. My mom canceled

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Speaker 2: making Nikola's dress in the eleventh hour, despite how excited

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Speaker 2: she was to wear her design, forcing her to urgently

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Speaker 2: Nicola spoke to Variety the year of her wedding and

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Speaker 2: everyone noted she was not wearing a Victoria Beckham dress,

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Speaker 2: which is kind of mind blowing because Victoria Beckham is

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Speaker 2: a dressmaker and her soon to be daughter in law

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Speaker 2: wearing Victoria Beckham's dress, she said, I was going to

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Speaker 2: a few months down the line she realized that her

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Speaker 2: itelier couldn't do it, so then I had to pick

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Speaker 2: another dress. She didn't say you can't wear it. I

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Speaker 2: ended up wearing a Valentino Coteur gown for the ceremony.

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Speaker 2: So that was the first kind of notice that the

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Speaker 2: what Brooklyn had to say about the wedding itself. This

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Speaker 2: one was explosive. He said, my mom hijacked my first

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Speaker 2: dance with my wife, which had been planned for weeks

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Speaker 2: in advance to a romantic love song in front of

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Speaker 2: our five hundred wedding guests. Mark Anthony called me to

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Speaker 2: the stage where in the schedule was planned to be

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Speaker 2: my romantic dance with my wife, but instead my mom

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Speaker 2: was waiting to dance with me. Instead, she danced very

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Speaker 2: inappropriately on me in front of everyone. I've never felt

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Speaker 2: more uncomfortable or humiliated in my entire life. We wanted

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Speaker 2: to renew our vows so we could recreate new memories

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Speaker 2: of our wedding day that bring us joy and happiness,

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Speaker 2: not anxiety and embarrassment. That is significant, And look, he

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Speaker 2: was referring to the couple's August twenty twenty five vow renewal.

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Speaker 2: They put pictures up and notably, the Beckhams weren't there.

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Speaker 2: Her family, the Peltz family, was there. In fact, her

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Speaker 2: father officiated this renewal of the wedding vows. And at

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Speaker 2: the same time there are pictures of the Beckhams on

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Speaker 3: So that definitely raised a lot of eyebrows.

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Speaker 1: I again, folks, try to interpret it this way or

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Speaker 1: that way those yeah, fine, look the speculation can end.

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Speaker 1: He has flat out saying what his version of events is. Please, No,

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Speaker 1: we're only getting one side of the story here, so

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Speaker 1: who knows. I'm sure they see it very differently, but

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Speaker 1: this is tough stuff for any parent to hear.

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Speaker 3: Fame be damned, yes, and oh I cannot eat.

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Speaker 2: I was actually I think every parent will put themselves

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Speaker 2: in this position going, oh my god, I said, Holy hell,

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Speaker 2: Holy hell. But he even goes to talk about what

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Speaker 2: his parents, he claims did weeks before the wedding. He said,

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Speaker 2: weeks before for our big day, my parents repeatedly pressured

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Speaker 2: to my name, which would have affected me, my wife,

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Speaker 2: and our future children. They were adamant on me signing

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Speaker 2: they have never treated me the same since. He goes

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Speaker 2: on to say during the wedding planning, my mom went

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Speaker 2: so far as to call me evil because Nicola and

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Speaker 2: at our table because they didn't have their husbands. Both

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Speaker 2: And he said the night before our wedding, members of

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Speaker 2: both privately and publicly that were sent to the press

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Speaker 2: on their orders. Even my brothers were sent to attack

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Speaker 2: me on social media before they ultimately blocked me out

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Speaker 1: This is family drama. I mean, this is awful. A

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Speaker 1: lot of families deal with family drama, and it's this

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Speaker 1: this was a one off, and who knows what's going

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Speaker 1: no matter what. This is a family. But a lot

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Speaker 1: of what he's suggesting that anyone in the press can

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Speaker 1: you would hate some here somebody doing that to their family.

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Speaker 1: But you know that pr machine around those two is

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And he is defending his wife throughout most

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Speaker 2: He said, my wife has been consistently disrespected by my family,

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Speaker 2: no matter how hard we've tried to come together as one.

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Speaker 2: This was interesting, he said, my mo has repeatedly invited

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Speaker 3: At every corner.

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Speaker 2: When he finally agreed to see me, it was under

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Speaker 2: the condition that Nicola wasn't invited. It was a slap

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Speaker 2: they refused to see me at all.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is one side, but that's some pretty ugly

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Speaker 2: And his father too, but yes, his mother. And this

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Speaker 2: is where I just wrote.

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Speaker 1: Ouch.

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Speaker 2: This one, I feel like was one of the most

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Speaker 2: difficult parts to read. They were all difficult, but this

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Speaker 2: one was especially so. He wrote, My family values public

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Speaker 2: promotion and endorsements above all else. Brand Beckham comes first.

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Speaker 2: Family love is decided by how much you post on

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Speaker 2: social media or how quickly you drop everything to show

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Speaker 2: it's at the expense of our professional obligations. We've gone

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Speaker 2: support every fashion show, every party, and every press activity

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Speaker 2: to show our perfect family. But the one time my

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Speaker 2: during the LA fires, my mom refused.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds okay compared to some other things. He's

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like it. That seems smaller but added to

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Speaker 2: Yes, I just think the big thing is just saying

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Speaker 2: But what I have found personally, especially with my kids

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Speaker 2: Here's where people are pointing to they make mistakes, But

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Speaker 1: They are furious at this kid. Furious. I am so sure,

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Speaker 1: But it's family. And there's the man that there is

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Speaker 2: Well, look, Brooklyn has every right to say his piece

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Speaker 1: Well, his experience is his experience, and he is telling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yes, throughout my career, I've actually been

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Speaker 2: So he ends his post with this. The narrative that

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Speaker 2: My wife and I do not want a life shaped

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Speaker 1: And that's all. She wrote. Sounds like he's going off

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely what. It sounds like, peace out.

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Speaker 1: And I get how long has he been married?

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Speaker 2: Well, they renewed their vows in August and that was

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Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, do something different with their lives.

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Speaker 1: Well we shall, But again, heart goes out to any

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Speaker 1: an eye Just wanted to hop on an update. And

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