Speaker 1: O Line Room's hottest room in the whole entire building.
Speaker 2: Disgusting.
Speaker 3: Just big fellas in there just oozing, you know, oozing
Speaker 3: when you're a big fella, Like your feet don't fit
Speaker 3: on the stairs how because you're your foot I'm a
Speaker 3: seventeen so you can't like not much.
Speaker 2: Listen, today we have an unbelievably legendary guest, Andrew Whitworth.
Speaker 2: We are talking Super Bowl fifty six, the Rams versus
Speaker 2: the Bengals, with the man who played on both teams.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a pretty good week for me and Walter.
Speaker 3: Peyton Man of the Year on Thursday, Jack, Super Bowl
Speaker 3: Championship on Sunday, Jack and a walk off right after
Speaker 3: the game with the kids, like, Hey, we're done. That's it.
Speaker 2: What a way to end it.
Speaker 4: This was the Rock super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Super Bowls come back to.
Speaker 3: Can you get off the field so we can kick
Speaker 3: the football off? I mean, what's going on right now?
Speaker 3: I just like, Hey, I'm trying to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Rock.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're in the middle of the field, but
Speaker 3: can we kick it please? It really started from unfortunately
Speaker 3: you he took the Super Bowl from me the first time.
Speaker 1: You jerk.
Speaker 3: After the game. Look up, see my wife, my son
Speaker 3: Michael sitting there.
Speaker 1: Lap.
Speaker 3: I flex both my arms up at him, kind of
Speaker 3: look up at him and.
Speaker 1: He likes, yeah, you did that. By the way, I
Speaker 1: just want you to know.
Speaker 2: That I'm sorry, buddy, all right, I'm sorry, but I'm not.
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Speaker 2: February thirteenth twenty twenty two SOFI Stadium, Inglewood, California.
Speaker 1: The Rams are trailering the Bengals twenty to sixteen. Late
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: With the ball on the one yard line, Stafford drops back.
Speaker 2: He looks for Cooper Cup. This is Super Bowl fifty six.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Games with Names. Today we have an unbelievably tall, handsome,
Speaker 2: legendary guest, Andrew Whitworth. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: Thanks man, I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 2: Brother. This is Kyler, this is Jack, and today we
Speaker 2: are going to be looking at and talking about Super
Speaker 2: Bowl fifty six, the Rams versus the Bengals. Why'd you
Speaker 2: pick this game?
Speaker 3: You know it's a pretty special game. Segalais jewels. You
Speaker 3: know it's a pretty good day, pretty good week for me, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, aur Walter Peyton Man of the
Speaker 3: Year on Thursday. Check Super Bowl Championship on Sunday. Jack
Speaker 3: kick and I'll walk off right after the game with
Speaker 3: the kids, like, Hey, we're done.
Speaker 1: This has been cool. We're out of here, mate. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The sunset, baby, that's it.
Speaker 2: What a way to end it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you know, really special.
Speaker 3: I mean I think of it when I when I
Speaker 3: picked this game really though, to me, it's you know,
Speaker 3: you know this, when you play for a long time
Speaker 3: every year, when you get to that end of the season,
Speaker 3: it's tough on you physically, mentally, everything, and when it
Speaker 3: doesn't end the right way, it's even worse. And then
Speaker 3: you've got to convince yourself you can go back through
Speaker 3: it again. And it really started from unfortunately, you, you jerk,
Speaker 3: you took the Super Bowl from me the first time
Speaker 3: in fifty three. I guess that was, yeah, fifty three,
Speaker 3: you know, and that's where it started. It was people
Speaker 3: thought I was going to retire after that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't really feel that way, but going into the game,
Speaker 3: you know how that is report every question I got
Speaker 3: asked was You're going to retire after this, and I
Speaker 3: was like, no, I feel like I'm gonna keep playing.
Speaker 3: But I appreciate it. Yeah, but naturally I was thirty eight,
Speaker 3: so I get it right. You know, my beer was
Speaker 3: almost all white, not as much as it was now.
Speaker 3: But I lost that game, obviously, And I can remember
Speaker 3: after the game come up and I came over here
Speaker 3: and found you. You were about to get ready to celebrate
Speaker 3: the confetti's falling, said what's up. Congratulate you, and then
Speaker 3: I take off to leave the field, dude, and I
Speaker 3: see I knew where my family was sitting. I look up,
Speaker 3: see my wife and my son, Michael, sitting in her lap.
Speaker 3: And he's my footballer. I got four kids, you know, twelve, twelve, eleven,
Speaker 3: and nine now chaos.
Speaker 1: But he's sitting in her lap. He's bawling, crying, and
Speaker 1: he's my footballer.
Speaker 3: And I look up at him and I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: just as a dad, You're like, shoot now, like you know.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm pissed, but I know I almost still
Speaker 3: play football, Like I know I'm not done. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: how am I gonna get this, dude? To like get
Speaker 3: this these tears out? So any little kid, right like
Speaker 3: a boy, especially like flex your muscles at me, buddy,
Speaker 3: So I like, I flex both my arms up at him,
Speaker 3: kind of look up at him and smile, like put
Speaker 3: a smile on your face like you I'm mouthing it
Speaker 3: at him.
Speaker 1: And he like.
Speaker 3: Best smile he could get right like seven eight years old,
Speaker 3: is devastated and h you did that. By the way,
Speaker 3: I just want you to know that I'm sorry. But
Speaker 3: Michael Michael, Uncle Joseph. Sorry, I'm sorry, buddy. All right,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: You guys are good. You got what next year you can't.
Speaker 1: You're not only good.
Speaker 3: But you know it was cool because after that game,
Speaker 3: wait to have a conversation, and you know it was
Speaker 3: about you know, things you get out to as opportunities
Speaker 3: to teach your kids, like man, look Mike, like we're
Speaker 3: gonna keep moving forward.
Speaker 1: We'll keep chasing U.
Speaker 3: And you know, to go through the next couple of years,
Speaker 3: struggle a little bit, blow out my PCL and MCL
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, decide to still come back at forty
Speaker 3: and play football and to get the opportunity to go
Speaker 3: play against the team I played for for eleven years
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's why I picked the game, because.
Speaker 3: It was an ending of your time in the league,
Speaker 3: adversity you'd been through, always choosing to come back and say,
Speaker 3: I'm going to chase this thing one more time. And
Speaker 3: when that final snap happened, the first thing I did
Speaker 3: and whenever in Saal, Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow gave
Speaker 3: him a little love and I turned to find my
Speaker 3: family and the greatest reward you can ever have my son,
Speaker 3: Michael's standing at the front of the suite.
Speaker 1: Both arms up, just all smile, flex the ear, dude.
Speaker 3: So to me, it's it's like that super Bowl is awesome,
Speaker 3: but like we know this in sports man, anytime you
Speaker 3: get a chance to kind of back up your own
Speaker 3: words and prove what you're about, and especially to your
Speaker 3: own kid. Uh, it's just a moment. It makes me
Speaker 3: emotional every time I think about it, you know. And
Speaker 3: so it's just cool, man. It's it's a really special
Speaker 3: game for the super Bowl, but also for that opportunity
Speaker 3: as a father to show him what I was about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows that.
Speaker 2: Now people don't realize we fit. Like everyone just thinks
Speaker 2: you get to the top and you go and win
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. But the failures, oh man, that adversity, that's
Speaker 2: the real scar tissue that's built, that calcifies you, and
Speaker 2: that's what makes you go on to be able to succeed.
Speaker 2: And you know, I remember when we lost our Super
Speaker 2: Bowl and twenty eleven in Indianapolis against the Giants had
Speaker 2: that same kind I mean I was still a younger player,
Speaker 2: so we were in different completely situations. I bearly played
Speaker 2: I was like a special teamer still, but getting to
Speaker 2: the top and getting to the last game and losing
Speaker 2: that game is almost the absolute worst thing you can
Speaker 2: possibly feel because you were so close, you were right there.
Speaker 2: In all offseason, you think about the one or two
Speaker 2: plays you could have done. What if I the what ifs?
Speaker 2: What if I would have just caught more five more
Speaker 2: balls that you know, practice that week? What if I
Speaker 2: you know, this happened. And to be able to go
Speaker 2: out and and freaking actually go out and get it
Speaker 2: done after losing. I mean, that's that's that's big leagues
Speaker 2: as big leagues man, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on. Is this the greatest game
Speaker 2: of all time?
Speaker 1: I mean that game? No chance?
Speaker 2: At least we got a man with integrity here, That's right,
Speaker 2: a man with integrity.
Speaker 3: I mean for me personally, yes, in general, no, no chance.
Speaker 3: But I mean it was I mean, you think about it,
Speaker 3: like for me, it was a movie script. I mean,
Speaker 3: you play for one team for eleven years, they tell
Speaker 3: you you're too old, basically like they don't want to
Speaker 3: commit to you playing there anymore, and you end up
Speaker 3: with another team who hadn't had a winning record in
Speaker 3: fifteen years and you end up in two Super Bowls,
Speaker 3: losing one and winning one and finishing against that team
Speaker 3: that told you that, in the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2: It was unbelievable for me against a bunch of LSU
Speaker 2: boys too.
Speaker 3: Come on, I even I had to let him know, like,
Speaker 3: it's still Papa LSU. Right, it's not the young guys
Speaker 3: time yet. All right, it's still my time, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So that was fun, you know, it's great.
Speaker 3: I think Joe, like, you know, we have a good relationship.
Speaker 3: Obviously the year I tore my pc lmcls when he
Speaker 3: tore his a cl so we both went to doctor
Speaker 3: Latrosh and yeah, got some time to be together. But
Speaker 3: you know, so we have a good relationship. But I
Speaker 3: think he's still kind of like, you know, like a
Speaker 3: little like you know, kind of little he mad at
Speaker 3: me still. It's okay, but it is what it is.
Speaker 3: It's just like I was mad at you for a while,
Speaker 3: you know, hey, because.
Speaker 2: It can only be one winner, there can only be one.
Speaker 2: I'll move on, don't worry. You know, there's only one
Speaker 2: happy team. At the end of every year, there's only
Speaker 2: one happy team. Can you walk downstairs with that PCL
Speaker 2: now is still.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good, I'm great.
Speaker 2: That always the thing with the PCL walking down side,
Speaker 2: I tore my PCL and O seven and that's ultimately
Speaker 2: what led to me to retire because over the years
Speaker 2: my knee started sagging back. You know what it is, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then I wore out the medial part of myself.
Speaker 3: You know, the ogre. I am that I have a
Speaker 3: lot of other issues walking down the stairs, and it's
Speaker 3: that my feet don't fit on stairs. A lot people
Speaker 3: don't realize this when you're a big fella, Like your
Speaker 3: feet don't fit on the stairs, so I can't walk.
Speaker 3: I have to walk my feet sideways how because you're
Speaker 3: your foot. I'm a seventeen so you can't like.
Speaker 1: Not much.
Speaker 3: Listen, I get I have to if you guys on
Speaker 3: Thursday can come to Thursday Football check got big wit,
Speaker 3: Little Mike. It's a segment I do anyways, Uh, speaking
Speaker 3: of that, man, you do killer work.
Speaker 2: You're working on Amazon right now, which has been it's
Speaker 2: been awesome for the league, the whole streaming and I
Speaker 2: think I think you know watching you guys. You know
Speaker 2: I'm working at Fox watching you guys. You guys are
Speaker 2: so good together. We share a teammate, CHRISA. Thompson. How
Speaker 2: has it been working on Amazon? Now that you're you know,
Speaker 2: you retire and you get into TV. You're freaking killing it.
Speaker 2: You have so many great insights and thoughts and how
Speaker 2: you speak on TV.
Speaker 3: How you liking it? It's been a blast. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things I love to share.
Speaker 3: Getting a chance to do it. When I got in
Speaker 3: the NFL in two thousand and six, you know, I
Speaker 3: had the you know, I had the honor of playing
Speaker 3: in three different decades of the league. I played long
Speaker 3: enough that it's really unique. Like when you're an offensive
Speaker 3: line room you walked in and I don't think a
Speaker 3: lot of people realize this as a draft, Like as
Speaker 3: an offensive lineman, you walked in. The first talk you'd have,
Speaker 3: it's like you're a line coach just going there and
Speaker 3: be like, none of you guys get to talk to
Speaker 3: the media. You don't say a word. You don't speak
Speaker 3: about this room. You don't talk about our offense. Like
Speaker 3: if you're in an article, like you know you better
Speaker 3: have been forced to comment basically, And so you you
Speaker 3: were kind of told avoid all of that. So the
Speaker 3: first half of my career. I'll never forget when Taylor
Speaker 3: Lawong gets drafted and I think this is so great.
Speaker 1: I tell him this the all time he goes his
Speaker 1: rookie year.
Speaker 3: He goes and works the combine the next year after
Speaker 3: his rookie year, and I remember just being like old
Speaker 3: lineman around the league or texting me, just like, man,
Speaker 3: who is this punk like that thinks he's allowed to talk,
Speaker 3: Like you can't talk about football like you're an old lineman.
Speaker 1: You're telling too much, you know. And so that was the.
Speaker 3: Nature of like our you know, guy, It really took
Speaker 3: a long time for a lot of veteran guys to
Speaker 3: be okay with old lineman who like spoke to the media,
Speaker 3: and that was really what it was like. And so
Speaker 3: I came up kind of with that mentality. And then
Speaker 3: you start to kind of like, all right, it's cool,
Speaker 3: Like that's fine, Like we're just talking about a game
Speaker 3: that we play, we love and it's not that serious.
Speaker 3: And so I think you really think of it. A
Speaker 3: lot of those things have changed, and now to have
Speaker 3: this opportunity as an offensive lineman to be on a
Speaker 3: prime time you know, an analyst desk and talk about
Speaker 3: a game that I love. It's meant so much to
Speaker 3: me as always say, like, I can't wait to celebrate
Speaker 3: guys in this game, and so getting a chance to
Speaker 3: do this like this changed my life, my kid's life.
Speaker 3: It's given me the opportunity to change other people's lives.
Speaker 3: So just that honor to me is what I think
Speaker 3: about every time I get to do it. It's like,
Speaker 3: celebrate a game that, uh, I think is you know,
Speaker 3: we talked with the greatest game of all time, the
Speaker 3: greatest sport of all time, the greatest competition of team
Speaker 3: and the ability to go out and make something bigger
Speaker 3: than yourself, like man, to celebrate that and what this
Speaker 3: whole entire thing is like, Uh, it's really special to
Speaker 3: be a part of it. And that's really what's on
Speaker 3: my mind every time I get on a desk and
Speaker 3: get a chance to talk about this game.
Speaker 2: And you know that you talk about how Linyman don't
Speaker 2: talk like people don't realize the hogs, you guys, are
Speaker 2: the motherfuckers that get the wins. If the Hogs don't
Speaker 2: work together, the team ain't doing shit. And they they're
Speaker 2: the most selfless people I always always connected with the
Speaker 2: lineman because I was a former quarterback, so I'd hang
Speaker 2: out with Logan Mankins. I'd hang out all you know,
Speaker 2: Windell and we were roommates. So that there are a
Speaker 2: special group of guys that are selfless. They all hang
Speaker 2: out in one area of the locker room. They don't
Speaker 2: want any attention. They always talk about their goddamn wives
Speaker 2: and their families. They're the biggest family men in the world.
Speaker 3: Stuff in their faces just they're protectors, you know, all
Speaker 3: over the side of their mouth. They're sweating at all times.
Speaker 3: You go in there, there's sweat all over them. Sitting
Speaker 3: in the facility watching chaste o. Line Room's hottest room
Speaker 3: in their whole entire building. Disgusting, Just big fellas in
Speaker 3: there just oozing, you know, oozing. I mean that's that's
Speaker 3: that's the line room, right, and it's a it's a
Speaker 3: brotherhood and it is and it's special.
Speaker 1: You think of this game, it really is. I mean
Speaker 1: that that that line.
Speaker 3: On both sides of the football is so unique and
Speaker 3: has a lot to do with teams that win every week.
Speaker 3: And uh, I think that's really the biggest honor being
Speaker 3: alignment and they're also think about how unique the position is.
Speaker 3: Always say this, like, think of how many positions in
Speaker 3: the world play with their back to the ball at
Speaker 3: all times in the game? Right I think they're really
Speaker 3: it's the only position I know of literally you are
Speaker 3: always playing with your back to the ball, and so
Speaker 3: it's it's, uh, it's wild to think that it's a
Speaker 3: unique thing, and you look at it in this league
Speaker 3: right now, it's a huge topic of improving that play.
Speaker 3: And I think that's one of the things is that
Speaker 3: it is a challenging thing because it's not really something
Speaker 3: you would just normally think of when you think of athletics,
Speaker 3: of having your back to the ball and not really
Speaker 3: knowing where the action is. And we've continued to eliminate
Speaker 3: their time to prepare, and I think that's one of
Speaker 3: those biggest struggles there is in the league right now.
Speaker 2: That's one thing I've been talking about, you know, one
Speaker 2: of the biggest themes of the year. We were talking
Speaker 2: about with every goddamn team offense line, offensive line, offense line.
Speaker 2: And I think it's a product of what the new
Speaker 2: CBA allows us to do in the offseason. There's less
Speaker 2: padded practices and those big boys. That's where they get
Speaker 2: their reps and they need to It's like it's like
Speaker 2: choreography with these guys. You know, they got to be
Speaker 2: able to pass guys off at but it has to
Speaker 2: be a live rep. You can't you can't simulate that,
Speaker 2: you know. So it's it's been crazy to watch how
Speaker 2: they're going to adjust the O line room and how
Speaker 2: they're gonna because there's always something, they'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: But getting back to you on TV, I think you've
Speaker 2: done an awesome job of giving the viewer a perspective
Speaker 2: of what the lineman sees. Because what people don't realize
Speaker 2: linemen are like the smartest guys on the team. Like
Speaker 2: a lot of the times the Joe Tooney's reading books
Speaker 2: that they have to be able to defend the most
Speaker 2: athletic guys on the fucking field. These d linemen that
Speaker 2: are absolutely monsters, and they got to do it together
Speaker 2: and they got there's so much feel and they got
Speaker 2: to look at the lines and you know, you got
Speaker 2: the center who's calling out bear front, paar front, and
Speaker 2: everyone's got a signal and they're communicating. It's been so
Speaker 2: cool to watch you on TV break that down for
Speaker 2: the viewer, because we haven't, really, like you said, had that.
Speaker 2: There hasn't been many O linemen out there that have
Speaker 2: done that. How great is Chrisable? Good point guard? That's
Speaker 2: what people don't realize. He's the point guard is and
Speaker 2: she can hoop?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, listen, she can actually hoop for real, Like
Speaker 3: you know, we've got a chance to spend a lot
Speaker 3: of time together. So when you're a road team, you know,
Speaker 3: you guys are kind of a home team, right, You
Speaker 3: got a home team, y'all are in the studio. But
Speaker 3: when you're a road team, you get to see everybody's
Speaker 3: messing this, right, like how you travel, how you kind
Speaker 3: of live together, you know, all the ups and downs
Speaker 3: of just life, right, because you're spending forty eight hours
Speaker 3: or more every week together. And so we get a
Speaker 3: chance to bond a lot. Man, She's so special. I
Speaker 3: know how much she loves working with you guys. And
Speaker 3: well she did say she liked her crew better, you know,
Speaker 3: So there you go. You know, So I think she
Speaker 3: tells everybody. I think Caris is wise enough and witty
Speaker 3: enough to tell us what we want to hear in
Speaker 3: the moment. So I think she's told both crews that
Speaker 3: she likes them better be my guess, but she's the
Speaker 3: best man, honestly, Like, it's been really cool to have
Speaker 3: somebody like that, because you got to think on our desks,
Speaker 3: like we started year one, only is this streaming new,
Speaker 3: and this whole entire platform new. But Roan Fitzpatrick, myself
Speaker 3: and Richard Sherman are coming straight off the field, never
Speaker 3: have done this before, and she's sent up there with
Speaker 3: a desk and Tony and Zalaz is their only hope, Like, hey,
Speaker 3: I hope we can keep these guys together because they've
Speaker 3: never done this, and I'll never forget our first show.
Speaker 3: One of the producers is like, hey, guys, if we
Speaker 3: have some dead time right here, y'all just banter and
Speaker 3: we're like, you know, it's breaking. Somebody's like, hey, what's
Speaker 3: the banter? I mean yeah, it's like what does that mean?
Speaker 3: And she's like she's like putting her hand like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, it just means just talk.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, all right, yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: But it's like we have no idea what's going on, right,
Speaker 3: and no one teaches you. That's what people know. That's
Speaker 3: like nothing like yourselves.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 2: Good luck remember that was the first I started swim,
Speaker 2: so they say, the first I go on inside the NFL,
Speaker 2: I get out of TV for the first time. I'm
Speaker 2: nervous as hell. Onces that a camera when when that
Speaker 2: red light's on, you can't you can't fool nobody, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I was just sitting there so nervous, Like, Yo,
Speaker 2: what do you got? He goes, Hey, just be you man.
Speaker 2: You I'm like, all right, thanks, appreciate it. There's no playbook.
Speaker 3: I said, it's throw them in there swim, you know,
Speaker 3: And and it is. But she's been awesome, and I
Speaker 3: think just her leadership, man, you can feel it every
Speaker 3: week like she has a plan and and she really,
Speaker 3: like I thought, the first year was awesome. She would
Speaker 3: meet some I was down for coffee every time before
Speaker 3: we'd like leave the hotel just to kind of hay,
Speaker 3: is there any way I can support you, anyway I
Speaker 3: can set you up better today? Is there any way
Speaker 3: that you'd really like to get in and out of
Speaker 3: things we talk about in a different way? Like it
Speaker 3: meant a lot to her, So having her with us
Speaker 3: has been Man, I don't know if you could put
Speaker 3: a price, tager of value on what she's meant to
Speaker 3: all of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did she give you a journal? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I was special special. She gives great gifts,
Speaker 2: she does thoughtful gifts afterwards. Yeah, she's she's uh, she's
Speaker 2: good to have a girl on the on the set.
Speaker 2: You know, fucking animals just meath heads tightened us up,
Speaker 2: tight up.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt.
Speaker 2: How'd you prepare to face this elite d defensive line
Speaker 2: or a defensive defensive end? How what what is your like?
Speaker 2: What do you look at when you were watching the film,
Speaker 2: when you were playing? Are you looking at scheme? Are
Speaker 2: you looking at individuals? Break us down with that?
Speaker 3: How your I think it's you know, I think it's
Speaker 3: interesting because now doing this, I get a chance to
Speaker 3: have such a broader lens of like things I'm looking at.
Speaker 3: But when I played, you know, obviously my job, you know,
Speaker 3: I spent more of the week, probably at my back
Speaker 3: half of my career on you know, just the attitude,
Speaker 3: the mentality, the focus of the week, of the young
Speaker 3: guys making sure they understood what was going on in
Speaker 3: my room and a lot of other rooms, and even
Speaker 3: you know, somewhat in my career towards the end, I
Speaker 3: was older than every coach on the staff, so it
Speaker 3: was like, you know, also mentoring those guys and kind
Speaker 3: of just being around. I hate, here's something I think
Speaker 3: we could do a little better, have more instas on
Speaker 3: and that kind of stuff. So, but when it came
Speaker 3: to tape, really it as a young player, it was
Speaker 3: really about studying habitual movements. I mean, so for me,
Speaker 3: I was a big you know, I grew up playing basketball.
Speaker 3: I didn't play football really until high school, and so
Speaker 3: I was always thinking of myself as I'm a power
Speaker 3: forward and somebody's trying to go dunk a basketball, and
Speaker 3: how do I keep my body in front of them?
Speaker 3: How would I prepare for the things they liked to do.
Speaker 3: So I looked at past rushers, whether it be a
Speaker 3: James Harrison or Terrell so Rugs or Dwight Freeney early
Speaker 3: in my career, as it went on, the Von Millers
Speaker 3: and Khalil Mix and then now the Nick Bosas and
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. I'm studying the pattern of how they really
Speaker 3: move and I want to learn their steps and how
Speaker 3: their body moves and on what step they like to
Speaker 3: come off with certain moves and what's their go too.
Speaker 3: Mon oh Man and how their hips and knees and
Speaker 3: like what what are little tails?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Is their hand really high on a spin? They does
Speaker 2: their inside lift? Does their outside go down?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Do they kill their hands really low before they bull?
Speaker 3: Do they keep their hands high when they're gonna hand swat?
Speaker 3: Like I'm studying all those movements to where my mentality
Speaker 3: was is it's you know, you see at the combine
Speaker 3: they do this like drill where you like shadow a guy,
Speaker 3: like kick your feet and try to keep up with them.
Speaker 3: My mentality was, I should be making that step before
Speaker 3: you ever make it, because I should know what you're
Speaker 3: gonna do before you do it. And so I would
Speaker 3: go out and I remember Jared Goff when I first
Speaker 3: got to the Rams, like being a young QB, like
Speaker 3: you know Jerry if you know Jerr, like just kind
Speaker 3: of no nuts.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's like just gonna sit and over, Hey, what
Speaker 1: you doing man? You know?
Speaker 3: And I would be out there like repping Chandler Jones's
Speaker 3: moves and he's like, why are you doing changes moves?
Speaker 3: I'm like if I can do them and kind of
Speaker 3: have a feel for him, then like while he's rushing me,
Speaker 3: I kind of in my body even though you don't
Speaker 3: see me on tape doing that. I'm kind of going
Speaker 3: through the motions of how he's moving while I'm taking
Speaker 3: my set to where I kind of know exactly when
Speaker 3: he's gonna hit me, you know, or oh, he's gonna
Speaker 3: pull away, and so I pull away. Like So it's
Speaker 3: like I'm kind of studying and learning their moves and
Speaker 3: trying to move when they move.
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what. It's a dance, baby, it
Speaker 1: is dance. You know.
Speaker 2: It's very similar for a receiver when he's preparing against
Speaker 2: the defensive, you know, a dB you know, is his
Speaker 2: feet stagger when he's gonna give you an offhand jam.
Speaker 2: It's all those little things that you sit and you
Speaker 2: watch so you subconsciously digest it and it allows you
Speaker 2: to react when you're playing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Coop always told me this, like and
Speaker 3: it made me think of like him being the rusher, like,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of being able to like what foot
Speaker 3: is it that that little has he come?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: It's like it's not always off of two, it's not
Speaker 3: always off of three, like sometimes it's one more and
Speaker 3: then it's the same move to where in their minds
Speaker 3: as they click, oh, it's this route and then I
Speaker 3: actually do it off of this step. You know that
Speaker 3: type of stuff, and they always thought of like, man,
Speaker 3: that's the guys that could get me or were different,
Speaker 3: Like I've talked a lot of veteran tackles Trent Williams
Speaker 3: was because we always joked like when the guy comes
Speaker 3: off the bench that we don't know, that's like a nightmare,
Speaker 3: because I would rather face Nick Posa every play than like, wait,
Speaker 3: who's this guy?
Speaker 1: Like who is this kid? Like is he fast? Is
Speaker 1: he slow? Is he powerful?
Speaker 3: Like? Those are the guys that actually made you nervous
Speaker 3: because I don't know his exact pattern, and that would
Speaker 3: scare me more than like a guy that at least
Speaker 3: I know what I'm gonna get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right there, folks. That's off. Yeah, that's not
Speaker 2: two hundred three hundred. That's that's class level. That's way
Speaker 2: up there, five six hundred class level R. What does
Speaker 2: that any mean?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, like you go to well.
Speaker 3: To class coge so one hundred, two hundred three hundred,
Speaker 3: that's like your basic level class is like class level.
Speaker 1: It's advanced. Yeah, you go.
Speaker 7: To add on that how do you think, like, if
Speaker 7: you put yourself across the line of scrimmage, how do
Speaker 7: you think defensive ends are looking at your tape? Like
Speaker 7: what things are they queuing in on you? Or how
Speaker 7: do they think they prepare against someone?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think most of them just know that you're
Speaker 3: number seventy seven. But no, but there's a couple of
Speaker 3: guys that probably study more than that. I mean, Ad
Speaker 3: is literally like that's seventy three, you know, and I'm
Speaker 3: going to annihilate this guy. But I think like probably
Speaker 3: when you're talking about the really elite guys, they're thinking
Speaker 3: of how they could maybe adjust things a little bit,
Speaker 3: but the nature of what they do. And I you know,
Speaker 3: I've gotten a chance in the last two years to
Speaker 3: work with young rushers and stuff like that. Like last year,
Speaker 3: you know, it was publicized a lot that Mike and
Speaker 3: I worked together for a week, And it's those guys.
Speaker 3: You got to remember they have to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 3: And this is the other thing I teach young linemen
Speaker 3: that want to know, I'm like, you do realize it's
Speaker 3: their job to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Now my job.
Speaker 3: So as long as we can dance and you want
Speaker 3: to dance fantastic. Show me guy's got a ton of moves.
Speaker 3: That's awesome because I I am gonna just keep giving
Speaker 3: you nothing and you're gonna keep doing moves and the
Speaker 3: ball's gonna be gone, and then you're gonna tell me
Speaker 3: about how cool your move was, and I'm gonna be like, great,
Speaker 3: I get paid so that you don't hit that guy.
Speaker 3: Other than that, like great, you're gonna have a lot
Speaker 3: of awesome moves and you can be like, oh man,
Speaker 3: I kind of got you at the end.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 3: So that's my thing is those guys that it's they
Speaker 3: have limited time to get there, so they kind of
Speaker 3: have their way. They rush, and so when you're talking
Speaker 3: to those guys to me, I always tell them like,
Speaker 3: don't waste time, like attack, be violent, get to the quarterback,
Speaker 3: and then you got to just trust the moves you
Speaker 3: have as a tackle. Though, on the other side of it,
Speaker 3: it's be patient, be calm, be under control, and really
Speaker 3: just be ready for the moment.
Speaker 1: They actually attack. So it's two sided.
Speaker 3: Really, if you want to be really good at it,
Speaker 3: it's the two things. Like for the one side, it's
Speaker 3: patience and stability and balance and on the other side,
Speaker 3: it's attacking at all times with a relentless effort and
Speaker 3: really a violent mentality to get to the quarterback. And
Speaker 3: so it's really to me, that's the difference of the
Speaker 3: two positions, is that they can watch tape, but it's
Speaker 3: more just for them.
Speaker 1: Do you punch a lot or do you not punch
Speaker 1: a lot? Like me? I never never ever stuck my
Speaker 1: arms out. I mean I looked at it like in basketball.
Speaker 3: Again, I go back to this like if I'm reaching,
Speaker 3: I'm dead right, you reach your feet, stop, you're dead.
Speaker 1: So I'm never reaching, right.
Speaker 3: So the only time I'd ever reach is a guy
Speaker 3: who I knew was really terrible at speed.
Speaker 1: He had no speed.
Speaker 3: Now I'll grab you because I know that, like even
Speaker 3: if you got my hands, I'll be okay, sorry.
Speaker 1: I know this is turned into this is what we people.
Speaker 7: Love this love craft, go deep in this stuff.
Speaker 2: And it's it's just crazy because watching it's like watching
Speaker 2: a young receiver getting off the line of scrimmage. Like
Speaker 2: you were saying, these guys, oh, you know you got
Speaker 2: all these moves and stuff. It's the guys that don't
Speaker 2: cover the ground. They think they're being cute and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's it's the guys that actually come and react off
Speaker 2: of your movement that are probably the tougher guys. You
Speaker 2: grew up in Louisiana, went to LSU up with Saints fan.
Speaker 3: I did not, would you like North Louisiana More of
Speaker 3: North Louisiana where I grew up, they were the Aints
Speaker 3: at you were wearing paper bags, you know, to the games.
Speaker 3: I think, Uh, I was a Cowboys fan, so I'm
Speaker 3: actually closer to where I lived. We were closer to
Speaker 3: Dallas than you are New Orleans. So I grew up
Speaker 3: a Cowboys fan, always a Cowboys fan, you know, So
Speaker 3: that was kind of my It was Troy Iggman, Emmitt Smith,
Speaker 3: Michael Irvin, those guys, Charles Hayley back in the day.
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it. I grew up that.
Speaker 2: And then also, you know, they asked me this question
Speaker 2: of the night honors, like who my favorite?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Growing up, I was really torn because I'm also a
Speaker 3: Niners Joe Montana fan, because sega Joe Montana football, Like
Speaker 3: that was my put my gloves on, I put my
Speaker 3: receiver gloves on. I'd sit in front of the TV
Speaker 3: and like I'm going after it. Right, full gear like
Speaker 3: wristbands on Joe Montana football. I'm going, you know, I
Speaker 3: haven't heard that game, and so I.
Speaker 2: Remember that he had the get his little helmet out
Speaker 2: like the problem up on the cover.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so great.
Speaker 2: I was a Niners fan. I hated the Cowboys. I
Speaker 2: hate Cowboys. My two dogs, My dogs were named Dwighton Montana.
Speaker 2: We stopped becoming Niners fans once we got rid of
Speaker 2: Joe Montana. My dad, my dad loved Joe Montana and
Speaker 2: like when he went to the Chiefs, we almost became.
Speaker 2: We were basically Chiefs fans for two years ago. You know,
Speaker 2: it was it was crazy. He was such larger than life,
Speaker 2: that guy. He was like, God, you were so you
Speaker 2: were you like Montana?
Speaker 3: I was like Montana and Apemen where my guys? And uh,
Speaker 3: you know it might have been because at that area
Speaker 3: we didn't even realize it, but that's really all you
Speaker 3: watched on TV were the Cowboys and the Niners, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know that's those kind of games.
Speaker 1: So that and then you know obviously that.
Speaker 3: I really wasn't one of those guys that was a
Speaker 3: huge pro sports guy when I was growing up.
Speaker 1: It's the South, probably y.
Speaker 3: I just didn't, you know, in North Louisiana, like there's
Speaker 3: no there's no pro team. So I didn't really pay
Speaker 3: attention to it at all. Like I was a college guy,
Speaker 3: like obviously being basketball as duke basketball. I had sideburns
Speaker 3: when I was young. When I first could get them
Speaker 3: Cherokee Parks Baby, Uh, you know that was when my
Speaker 3: Christian Latner grant heel. That was that was my squad,
Speaker 3: So that that was it, you know, and then you know,
Speaker 3: then I went on to college and you know, I played.
Speaker 3: We actually have a little bit of a connection because yeah,
Speaker 3: Nick and Bill Baby, I mean you know Saban went
Speaker 3: to Kent State as well. Yeah, you know, and so
Speaker 3: you know when I was with LSU, Bill would come
Speaker 3: down and like watch our off seasons and stuff like
Speaker 3: that and spend a lot of time with Nick. Obviously
Speaker 3: because of their relationships, we both kind of been ingrained
Speaker 3: very similar things, that's for sure. Yeah, what was playing
Speaker 3: for like for Nick Saban was he well you know,
Speaker 3: I got young Nick, so he was who he was.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I think the best thing I could say is my
Speaker 3: very first time I was a rookie, I mean a freshman.
Speaker 3: We had a game we had Monday morning, early morning film.
Speaker 3: Five minutes late, maybe three minutes late, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was really late getting across campus. And he would
Speaker 3: wait at the door to close it when the time
Speaker 3: would end, and he took those glasses off like he
Speaker 3: always does, and he lit me up into a way
Speaker 3: like I was just like to like tears the rest
Speaker 3: of the meeting, and I'll never forget it. And I
Speaker 3: my wife to this day is so tired of me
Speaker 3: because I am forty five minutes early to everything, Like
Speaker 3: I'm fully dressed before I got to be anywhere ready
Speaker 3: to go. So he you know, it was special because
Speaker 3: you realize, really, you know, I think Kyle Williams and
Speaker 3: I always say this, he's playing Buffalo forever. You know,
Speaker 3: we were high school rivals, college roommates, absolute stud and
Speaker 3: we'd say this. When you played for him there, you
Speaker 3: always felt like, as players, we have to go out
Speaker 3: and lose the game because from a preparation standpoint, and
Speaker 3: you know how what we're ready to do in this game,
Speaker 3: from practicing, knowing what they do, all of that, Like
Speaker 3: he's put you in a situation to win, and you
Speaker 3: have to go play bad to lose. And you really
Speaker 3: did feel that way every time you lost, like gosh,
Speaker 3: we let Nick down because we couldn't have had a
Speaker 3: better playbook to win the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what you.
Speaker 2: Felt like, That's something I felt like I felt my
Speaker 2: whole career. There wasn't a game that we went into
Speaker 2: where you didn't feel like you should have won just
Speaker 2: because of the prep that you went through, like constantly
Speaker 2: going over situations that come up maybe once a year,
Speaker 2: always being prepared for that one thing, uh, knowing your opponent,
Speaker 2: putting the work in like and I think too, like
Speaker 2: you know this with them, like I always was blown away,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like there's lots of coaches that work hard,
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that you know, they put in time, effort,
Speaker 2: all these things, but.
Speaker 3: The intensity level and the focus level of like every
Speaker 3: detail always locked in, never relaxed, like never ever letting
Speaker 3: off the gas a little bit. I was always blown
Speaker 3: away in four years of being with the Nick, like
Speaker 3: I never saw him ever pull off the gas at all.
Speaker 3: It was always full intensity, fully locked into every detail
Speaker 3: that mattered, if every situation and every week. I've just
Speaker 3: even to this day, you know, I told Sean McVay this.
Speaker 3: When I came in twenty seventeen, I got to spend
Speaker 3: like a month or two with him the first couple
Speaker 3: of months there and signing and getting to know each other.
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, you're one of the closest I've
Speaker 3: ever seen, because I've never seen it since I played
Speaker 3: for Nick and out of Magin just seeing Bill when
Speaker 3: he would come visit that he was that way, Like
Speaker 3: I just never seen people that not about working hard, but.
Speaker 2: Just that that locked in all the time. It was
Speaker 2: really rare. You know what it is. It's those those guys.
Speaker 2: They enjoy the grind of preparation. Some guys it's a
Speaker 2: it's a task. It's it's like a it's like a chore.
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, we're gonna those guys. I tell
Speaker 2: the story all the time, and like when I was
Speaker 2: like a second year player in the league, I love
Speaker 2: just being in the locker room. I was still just
Speaker 2: amazed at being a Patriot. March We're doing cold cold plunge,
Speaker 2: hot plunge. I'd be going back and forth ten o'clock
Speaker 2: at night.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I went to Kent State, so we used to have
Speaker 2: to pay for our Gatorade. I was just so infatuated
Speaker 2: with having everything for free.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I used to hang out there and I would go
Speaker 2: in the weight room ten o'clock.
Speaker 1: The backpack with gatorades. Huh. We used stuffing gatorads in
Speaker 1: the backpack.
Speaker 2: Rookie contract, seventh rounder by us. Come on, buddy, you
Speaker 2: should have sold my fridge at home. I had everything
Speaker 2: that they had at the facility. And you go there
Speaker 2: at eleven o'clock at night in March and you see
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick in the corner of the weight room on
Speaker 2: a treadmill with a freaking sweat vest on with a
Speaker 2: big ass book going over the draft with film on
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock in March. Just guys that enjoy. They enjoy
Speaker 2: the preparation process, and they like it was like that
Speaker 2: every year, like and they already had three super Bowls
Speaker 2: at that time, you know when I got there, and
Speaker 2: then when we want a super Bowl, it's like they
Speaker 2: work even harder because they know you become, yep, the target,
Speaker 2: you become America's most wanted.
Speaker 3: People talk about process versus results all this type of stuff.
Speaker 3: They are the process. They are the process, that is
Speaker 3: their result. Like to them, win or losses actually generally
Speaker 3: actually don't matter. They are in the process all the time,
Speaker 3: so naturally the wins come, the results come because they
Speaker 3: never leave the process. They were at all times gathering information.
Speaker 3: Like I always felt like, even when I'm talking to Nick,
Speaker 3: I'm like, is he evaluating what I'm saying? Or it's
Speaker 3: like I'm just trying to have a casual conversation with you,
Speaker 3: But I feel like you're like evaluating what mood or
Speaker 3: mentality I'm in in this moment. I'm just trying to
Speaker 3: ask you how your day's going, you know, But like
Speaker 3: they're that locked in all the time their computers, dude,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's it's crazy. What's so Lsu played
Speaker 3: for Cincinnati, come over to the LA Rams, young hot
Speaker 3: shot new coach Sean mcday.
Speaker 2: Played them in college, went to Miami.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: What was the culture? Like you explained a little, but
Speaker 2: let's jump into that detail of what that culture was like.
Speaker 2: Coming from Cincinnati getting ready to become a Super Bowl team.
Speaker 2: What was that culture like?
Speaker 3: It was unique because I'd been eleven years in sincey
Speaker 3: you know, coach Marvin Lewis the whole time. You know,
Speaker 3: obviously my first couple of years in Cincinnati were rough.
Speaker 3: That was during the period of time when you know, shoot,
Speaker 3: I think we had you know, I don't know, over
Speaker 3: ten guys you know that had arrest and different things
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 1: My first two years on the league. It was just
Speaker 1: it was crazy. I mean it was chaos. Right.
Speaker 2: We used to have a formation called Bengal formation.
Speaker 1: It was a group.
Speaker 3: There's four sets of formations. You're breaking the rules or
Speaker 3: jail breakers, and that was the F would move in
Speaker 3: each at one of these things in these formations. So
Speaker 3: on you know, Brown, he was all the way out.
Speaker 3: On Tiger, he the F would be in the here
Speaker 3: and then on Bengal all the way in.
Speaker 1: We remembered it.
Speaker 2: Bengals are always in jail. They're always there.
Speaker 3: You go.
Speaker 1: See, I knew it was something like that. I knew
Speaker 1: that's where they were going. But no, that's the truth.
Speaker 3: And so then you know, you play there had we
Speaker 3: actually had a great run you know there when Andy
Speaker 3: Dawton and AJ Green and those guys were Shoot, we
Speaker 3: had five years We're in the playoffs or winning multiple
Speaker 3: division championships and just can't figure out a way to
Speaker 3: win in the playoffs. And then you go and it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: you're thirty six years old, you're a free agent. The
Speaker 3: team's kind of telling you you can't play anymore. You
Speaker 3: feel like you can play a lot more. And and
Speaker 3: here comes the Los Angeles Rams. They hired the youngest
Speaker 3: coach in history of the NFL, Sean McVay. I had randomly,
Speaker 3: you know how these things just happened. Literally three years
Speaker 3: before that, Jay Gruden was trying to hire him to Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: and I met him at the Combine and so Sean
Speaker 3: and I had met then kind of struck up a relationship.
Speaker 1: And so I'm no idiot. I mean, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a free agent.
Speaker 3: I'm on the PA and I'm like, hey, listen, the
Speaker 3: Combine's coming up in February. Like I'm going to the
Speaker 3: PA meetings. So at the PA meetings, you know, you
Speaker 3: see people at the combine and you're just saying hey
Speaker 3: to everyone. You know, that type of deal. So I
Speaker 3: ran into those guys. I ran into a bunch of
Speaker 3: different coaches. You know, obviously you're going to be a
Speaker 3: free agent, and you know, I had conversation. It was
Speaker 3: like cool, like Sean just got this job. I know him,
Speaker 3: Like I hope this works out where there's an opportunity there,
Speaker 3: and they were moving Greg Robinson from the left tackle spot,
Speaker 3: so there was an op and I signed.
Speaker 1: There and you know, you joined the youngest head coach
Speaker 1: and here you are.
Speaker 3: I'm, you know, eight years older than this guy, and
Speaker 3: I'm I'm the left tackle, the prized free agent at
Speaker 3: thirty six years old with a white beard, and so
Speaker 3: it was crazy because no left tackle it ever in
Speaker 3: NFL history at thirty six, got like a premium free
Speaker 3: agency contract. So it was a huge leap for the
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams to do something like that that had
Speaker 3: never been done. And it was a lot like honestly,
Speaker 3: for me, like the first year, it was a lot
Speaker 3: of pressure because it's like, I am thirty six, I
Speaker 3: have no idea if my body's gonna hold up or not.
Speaker 3: But I got to be around and see him, and
Speaker 3: it injected probably. I mean, it's probably the last five
Speaker 3: years of my career the most energy, most enthusiasm and
Speaker 3: just affection of loving the game that I've ever had
Speaker 3: my entire football career being around Sean McVay because he's
Speaker 3: one of the rarest people I've ever had the opportunity
Speaker 3: to be around from that focus level, but also the
Speaker 3: ability that who he is is a communicator and how
Speaker 3: you can articulate and bring juice every single week. Like
Speaker 3: when you walk out of his meetings, you not only
Speaker 3: walk out like prepared for the game, you walk out
Speaker 3: feeling like man, you are king like that he has
Speaker 3: just his ability to make you feel the most positive,
Speaker 3: just infectious energy about your team and your group.
Speaker 1: And it was awesome.
Speaker 3: And to think a thirty year old head coach, I'll
Speaker 3: tell you this, she's and you'll get this. He's a
Speaker 3: thirty year old head coach or probably two weeks into
Speaker 3: OTA's his first OTAs and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go check on coach, like I ain't been in there,
Speaker 3: Like after the work, you know, I go do my
Speaker 3: own deal, watch my own stuff. Kind of I'm mentoring
Speaker 3: young guys. I'm getting to know this young team. They're like,
Speaker 3: who's this grand Paul who's working with us, you know,
Speaker 3: And so I'm getting to know these guys and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go check on shop. So I go knock
Speaker 3: on his office door, Hey, come in, Like, go in.
Speaker 3: It's four thirty in the afternoon. You know in late April,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's like he's like got something on
Speaker 3: the TV. Like I can't seem like what's going on
Speaker 3: in the screen, Like what you get what you're doing
Speaker 3: in here? He turns his screen to me, he's watching
Speaker 3: our team meeting. He's like, I go back and watch
Speaker 3: every single time I speak to you guys, because I
Speaker 3: want to break down how I communicate every single day
Speaker 3: of the message and what it is that I meant
Speaker 3: to set out with an intent to make sure you
Speaker 3: guys walked out of the room and felt And if
Speaker 3: I can't feel it, then I want to critique myself
Speaker 3: harder and I critique anybody else. And if I'm the
Speaker 3: hardest on myself and every day I'm delivering a message
Speaker 3: that's consistent with what I want from you guys, then
Speaker 3: like that's the best way for me to be a
Speaker 3: really good communicator.
Speaker 2: And I was like wow, Wow.
Speaker 1: And not only that, we.
Speaker 3: Spent the first month talking about culture communication, like what
Speaker 3: verbal and visual communication looks like, and it's like you're
Speaker 3: sitting in there and I'm like, wow, there's a thirty
Speaker 3: year old head coach. We weren'talking about x's and o's
Speaker 3: every day we are talking about how you be like
Speaker 3: a grown man in football, like don't pout when you
Speaker 3: have a bad play, Like show some juice, bring some
Speaker 3: energy back to the huddle and say let's go be
Speaker 3: better than next snap. Like things where you're like, wow,
Speaker 3: this is like intangible stuff that actually matters, right, and
Speaker 3: it's the glue. And it was really cool to see
Speaker 3: a young guy have really, I mean the balls to
Speaker 3: do that because most people would think, you're, like the
Speaker 3: ownership's looking like you're young, you're higher that you're teaching
Speaker 3: these guys Mexican O's like, where's where's all the stuff
Speaker 3: that we're gonna do that's gonna hurt teams and they
Speaker 3: don't really understand, like, no, that's actually what's going to
Speaker 3: create a football team that's going to be really special.
Speaker 3: So it's really honestly one of the greatest moments of
Speaker 3: my life in my football career. Those five years with
Speaker 3: him was really special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I got to be a little fly
Speaker 2: on the wall with that relationship. One night at the
Speaker 2: Soho house where yeah, we also knew how to have
Speaker 2: a good time, we parttook in a few tequila shots
Speaker 2: and yeah, I could definitely. It was always interesting to
Speaker 2: me because, like you said, you were eight years older
Speaker 2: than him, and to see the relationship between head coach
Speaker 2: and veteran player you in person, it was something very
Speaker 2: different than I ever seen, you know, it was a
Speaker 2: completely different way. And it's pretty cool to hear that
Speaker 2: kind of new wave coach. Yeah, you know, and that's
Speaker 2: what and that's what every teams trying to strike. Now,
Speaker 2: every team is trying to strike to get the next
Speaker 2: McVeigh the hands these guys that are these young guns,
Speaker 2: creative guys. But it's pretty cool to hear that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're brilliant with the x's and o's, but they're
Speaker 2: spending most of their time trying to develop the culture,
Speaker 2: trying to show guys what we are.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And a lot of teams don't know what they are,
Speaker 2: and that's why most teams are dog shit. In the
Speaker 2: National Football League, there's like six seven teams that are
Speaker 2: really vying for a Super Bowl every year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like in Sean, I mean, think about
Speaker 3: this thirty ye old head coach. You think you come
Speaker 3: in with, like, oh man, this team's really struggled last fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he won Super Bowls in the early two thousand, but
Speaker 3: really fifteen years they haven't had a winning record. I mean,
Speaker 3: to come in and really have that mentality of we
Speaker 3: didn't even have a single rule. We had had one
Speaker 3: rule he had on the board and big words we
Speaker 3: not me. It's the only rule of the whole team,
Speaker 3: where whatever you want, do whatever you want. But if
Speaker 3: it ain't a weight decision, then it's not us. And
Speaker 3: so that was it, and that was how we ran
Speaker 3: our room and developed our culture. And it was really special.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad that he had the year he had
Speaker 3: because I think it's probably one of the most you know,
Speaker 3: to me impressive coaching seasons he's had since he's been
Speaker 3: at the Helm. You know, with one of the highest caps,
Speaker 3: you know, dead caps in the entire league, one of
Speaker 3: the youngest teams in the entire NFL h to make
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I mean, what a season. And I can't
Speaker 3: wait because they're they're they got a chance this offseason.
Speaker 3: Lot all the draft picks, the most money they've had
Speaker 3: since he's been the head coach, the most draft picks
Speaker 3: they've had since he's been the head coach.
Speaker 1: They'll be interesting to see what they build.
Speaker 2: It's been an awesome relationship. Him less need that whole operation,
Speaker 2: you know, mortgage the future. They mortgages the goddamn future
Speaker 2: for that Super Bowl, you know. And and people were
Speaker 2: thinking this year they were gonna be a five win team,
Speaker 2: four win team to go out and make the playoffs.
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Speaker 4: To revisit these rams real quick.
Speaker 2: Revisit the rams? All right?
Speaker 4: First we got to start off. This was Andrew's sixteenth
Speaker 4: season in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Sixteen.
Speaker 5: This was Cooper Cup's big year, triple crown winner, triple
Speaker 5: first see Steve Smith and five back when he had
Speaker 5: Jake Delom slanging the rock to him, Jake Delomb, another
Speaker 5: Louisiana guy.
Speaker 4: We got to shout him out. Maybe Stafford's first season
Speaker 4: in LA.
Speaker 5: It was a banner year, career high in TDS, career
Speaker 5: high in completion percentage and Obj joins the team week ten.
Speaker 2: Baby Obj?
Speaker 4: What did that do to the locker room? Andrew?
Speaker 1: Uh, you know what, it was awesome.
Speaker 3: I think that year really was one of the things
Speaker 3: to me that cemented like, really how special Sean is
Speaker 3: in the sense that you think of adding von Miller
Speaker 3: Obj in that season, guys who were established vets who
Speaker 3: played other places, and when they got there, it was
Speaker 3: so cool to see how refreshed. They were to be
Speaker 3: like whoa, Like you just said, I've never seen anything
Speaker 3: like this, like this whole set up and y'all are
Speaker 3: all like having fun, like what actually is going on?
Speaker 3: I remember Obj being like, man, this is like gave
Speaker 3: me a whole new fresh breath of like wanting to
Speaker 3: play football. And it was really cool because we had
Speaker 3: a little lull in that season where we didn't play well.
Speaker 3: We had three game losing streak. We had just gotten
Speaker 3: everybody and we actually lost three games in a row
Speaker 3: and we've gotten all these people on the team of
Speaker 3: Vaughn on the team and Obj on the team, and
Speaker 3: then we kind of found ourselves. It took a little
Speaker 3: bit to kind of get to know each other and
Speaker 3: like get a feel for the new locker room vibes,
Speaker 3: and we took off from there. You know, we lost
Speaker 3: one time and overtime to San Francisco from then on
Speaker 3: and it led us to a super Bowl. So it's
Speaker 3: something that it was a rare, rare team and a
Speaker 3: really special moment for myself. But like I said, I
Speaker 3: think Sean mcvay's story is still not you know finished.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be special to watch this guy keep going,
Speaker 3: because I've told him this multiple times. If he has
Speaker 3: the passionate coach for a long time, he'll be one
Speaker 3: of the best to ever do it. I'm pretty confident
Speaker 3: that that's That's the one thing that worries me though.
Speaker 3: When you're a juice guy guy like that, can you
Speaker 3: sustain that that's tough. That's what I think, honestly, one
Speaker 3: of the most impressive things about Pete Carroll. Yeah, oh
Speaker 3: my god, it's unbelievable. Every time you think those guys
Speaker 3: are dead, that guy comes up with a way to
Speaker 3: get them to play. You're all of a sudden, like,
Speaker 3: who in the world is this football team that we're
Speaker 3: playing because watching on tap, this is not how they
Speaker 3: played the last three weeks. And then he can get
Speaker 3: them to just play at a level that's out of
Speaker 3: this world. But you know, that's the thing. I think
Speaker 3: it will be a shuggle. Plus, I think in the
Speaker 3: new age that we live in media and the opportunities everywhere,
Speaker 3: like these coaches, they didn't have all those things back
Speaker 3: in the eighties and nineties and two thousand, Like Bill,
Speaker 3: there wasn't somebody beating his door every day for There's
Speaker 3: tons of money to go do whatever else, right, So
Speaker 3: I think it is unique now trying to be a
Speaker 3: head coach and do it for a really long time.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of other options, and I think that
Speaker 3: is different for this new young wave of coaches as well.
Speaker 2: So many different avenues of keeping your itch for football
Speaker 2: nowadays with the media as.
Speaker 1: It keeps growing.
Speaker 3: I mean, this this game is insane and how it's
Speaker 3: growing is insane, and they have lots of opportunities to
Speaker 3: do a.
Speaker 1: Lot of ways to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: Jackie break down these Bengals.
Speaker 5: He's twenty twenty one, Bengals ten and seven, coming off
Speaker 5: of four and eleven season. Joe Burrows second season in
Speaker 5: the league. We're in the Zach Taylor era. We talked
Speaker 5: about the Marve Lewis era earlier. This is the third
Speaker 5: year under Zach Taylor. Jamar Chase's rookie season. What a
Speaker 5: rookie season it was, Oh my god, Higgins, I mean, Midhead,
Speaker 5: they had the guys you can remember too.
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was with us in the Super Bowl. We
Speaker 1: lost to you guys.
Speaker 3: So he actually got that ye right during the you know,
Speaker 3: he interviewed for that job during the bye week of
Speaker 3: going into the Super Bowl. Yeah, so we actually got
Speaker 3: that job during that time. So it was, like I said,
Speaker 3: it was a pretty crazy script to end it the
Speaker 3: way it all ended. And you say during one more
Speaker 3: time daring, Yeah from the south Man, it's endearing the
Speaker 3: way you say during.
Speaker 1: That's right during.
Speaker 5: And we got to give a shout out to AJ
Speaker 5: Green here. This is the first time the Bengals started
Speaker 5: a year without aj Green since twenty ten. Jesus Baby
Speaker 5: mainsday Baby, and they won the AFC North for the
Speaker 5: first time since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: I mean, this was an electric year. Just tells you
Speaker 2: one thing. Quarterbacks everything be.
Speaker 3: Stafford was out of his mind I mean he was
Speaker 3: out of his mind this season too, but in that
Speaker 3: year he was he was different. You could tell that
Speaker 3: he was refreshed and felt believed in and I mean,
Speaker 3: think about all those years he had in Detroit and
Speaker 3: just you know, felt like he's fighting for his life
Speaker 3: every week. And then to come to a place I'm
Speaker 3: sure where you meet Sean McVay and you realize, oh man,
Speaker 3: you mean you're gonna tell me, Like I kind of
Speaker 3: felt like I have the advantage when I walk into
Speaker 3: a game every week I think you saw that in
Speaker 3: him and it was fun.
Speaker 1: And I hope he keeps going. Man.
Speaker 3: I know he's been you know, he's had some injuries. Obviously,
Speaker 3: he got beat up pretty good and what a tough
Speaker 3: sucker he is. But man, I hope he keeps going
Speaker 3: because he's a special one and I'd love to see
Speaker 3: him have a couple more years. Him and Sean together,
Speaker 3: they could do a lot of great things. He's a
Speaker 3: freaking stud.
Speaker 1: Jackie.
Speaker 2: What's the game lead up to this thing?
Speaker 4: Andrew mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 5: The Rams got hot one five or six to finish
Speaker 5: the regular season, the Bengals not so hot, three and
Speaker 5: three to finish it off. Both teams were the four seeds.
Speaker 5: As you remember, Joe Burrow went in and slayed my homes.
Speaker 5: That arrowhead gave us the phrase burrowhead, burrowhead.
Speaker 4: Pretty good one, pretty good one.
Speaker 5: Bengals first Super Bowl appearance since eighty nine back in
Speaker 5: the Icky Woods days.
Speaker 1: Did they lose to them?
Speaker 2: Niners? Come on?
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 3: That was actually my super Bowl prediction this year, and
Speaker 3: unfortunately Joe Burrow got hurt. But I went Niners, Bengals.
Speaker 3: I wanted the rematch. I thought we were going to
Speaker 3: get the rematch.
Speaker 4: And this was the rams second Super Bowl appearance in
Speaker 4: three years, as we mentioned earlier, so they had that
Speaker 4: bad taste in their mouth.
Speaker 2: Still, So what do you remember the game leaning up
Speaker 2: to this thing? Are you guys nervous in l A.
Speaker 2: Did you have the weirdest week ever? Did you have
Speaker 2: a template, because you guys were there a couple of years.
Speaker 3: You would think, but it ended up being a home
Speaker 3: game and then the league actually, which I you know,
Speaker 3: it's like one of those things for me, Hey, listen,
Speaker 3: it forked out perfect.
Speaker 1: I have no complaints for the young guys.
Speaker 3: I feel bad that were on that team that never
Speaker 3: been to a Super Bowl because when we went to
Speaker 3: Atlanta and play you guys, you get the allness. You're
Speaker 3: on the road, like we're in an hotel, we're busting
Speaker 3: to the media days. You see all the security.
Speaker 2: You guys stayed at home.
Speaker 3: We stayed in our facility and practiced and stayed in
Speaker 3: our houses, like literally busted.
Speaker 1: Think about that.
Speaker 3: We literally went to the game like it was a
Speaker 3: home game and and like hey, the night before, stayed
Speaker 3: in a hotel by the stadium and just rode over
Speaker 3: to the game and so it was the weirdest week
Speaker 3: we even did. They even allowed us to do our
Speaker 3: media at our facility, so we didn't even have a
Speaker 3: media day.
Speaker 1: So it was a weird, weird week.
Speaker 2: It felt like a you know, late December game that
Speaker 2: you're just at home, and obviously in Cali, you know
Speaker 2: you have the great weather, so just.
Speaker 3: It didn't even feel like you're playing in the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: It was very strange compared to going to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Almost it could be taken as an advantage though for
Speaker 2: a young guy, because there was less distraction.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: I just mean like I hated for them that they
Speaker 3: didn't experience like the allness of what a Super Bowl
Speaker 3: feels like, right, and that that's what I remember the most.
Speaker 3: And then you know, really of the game, I just
Speaker 3: remember it felt like every five seconds I turned.
Speaker 2: Around, we lost in all offensive player, like wait, who's out?
Speaker 3: You know, like you're on the solid you know, it's
Speaker 3: like wait, you're going to get in the huddle and
Speaker 3: you're like wait, wait, where's our tight end? You're like,
Speaker 3: oh wait, where's where's the receiver? It was just constant
Speaker 3: the entire game. We were losing guys.
Speaker 4: Did you guys get to use your same locker room
Speaker 4: that game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh heck, everything was the same.
Speaker 4: That isn't wild?
Speaker 1: Yeah it was wild.
Speaker 4: Should we bounce through this game?
Speaker 1: Real quick bounce through?
Speaker 5: But as Andrew mentioned earlier, I mean Obj balls out,
Speaker 5: scores first, gets the Rams up, then gets hurt right
Speaker 5: before halftime, like he's going.
Speaker 4: For he would be super MVP.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he's just bawling.
Speaker 5: Stafford throws a pick late in the second quarter right
Speaker 5: around men. Rams are up thirteen ten at the half.
Speaker 5: Then oh, got to rewind a little bit.
Speaker 9: This was the Rock super Bowl. Yeah, the Rock gets
Speaker 9: opened it. What was like the fields we can kick
Speaker 9: the football off? I mean, what's going on right now?
Speaker 9: I just I'm right there, like, hey, I'm trying to
Speaker 9: win a Super Bowl Rock. I'm glad you're in the
Speaker 9: middle of the field. But can we kick it please?
Speaker 7: I wonder if he's gonna do that for every single
Speaker 7: of the game.
Speaker 1: You got it?
Speaker 4: He should one of the wildest openings. Were you watching
Speaker 4: that last night? It was insane?
Speaker 2: Lee.
Speaker 5: So, as we mentioned, the halftimes score thirteen to ten,
Speaker 5: Rams are leading. Then at halftime we got Snoop out
Speaker 5: there with doctor Dre kick Pierson's on the field.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine that?
Speaker 1: Well, you know what Bill and Nick would do in
Speaker 1: that situation.
Speaker 2: They would have been cut.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the punter would have kicked the rest of the game.
Speaker 3: We're like, what would you possibly do it?
Speaker 1: They don't care. No, those those guys's gone.
Speaker 2: No one would even think about doing that, right mind.
Speaker 2: I remember seeing this live. I'm sitting there like, is
Speaker 2: that the is that kick Pierson?
Speaker 3: Now? I will say at halftime it was one of
Speaker 3: the hardest parts because you know how long those are
Speaker 3: to like try to listen to the coaches.
Speaker 2: And you're like, dang, that's Eminem and Snoop out there.
Speaker 3: Like it's like you're kind of kind of listening a
Speaker 3: little bit, like I don't know what y'all just said,
Speaker 3: but y'all feel me in a minute, because that was
Speaker 3: a sick halftime show.
Speaker 2: I will give them that legendary la with those guys.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. And then so we come back for
Speaker 4: the second half.
Speaker 5: Bengals start out hot, seventy five yard TD bomb Burrow
Speaker 5: to Chase. This puts the Bengals up all second half
Speaker 5: until a minute twenty three left, when Stafford finds Cup
Speaker 5: in the back of the end zone. A little bit
Speaker 5: of a punt fest there in the second half for
Speaker 5: a while. Take the lead, Von Miller, Aaron Donald, ball out, relentless,
Speaker 5: Zach Joe Burrow seven times.
Speaker 2: Seven times, insane. You get sacked all year though.
Speaker 5: She got hit Super Bowl record. Then Joe gets out there,
Speaker 5: they get out to midfield. We were looking at this
Speaker 5: one earlier fourth and one. They're throwing it. Bring the blitz,
Speaker 5: take him down.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Eric Weddle, Baby, Eric Weddle jumped in the window or
Speaker 3: work to his left. Wettle jumps in the window and
Speaker 3: then he tried to get back and it is too
Speaker 3: Donald baby, Man, what a special guy that was. People
Speaker 3: forget we added him to start the playoffs. He comes
Speaker 3: two years sitting out. He's in his big truck, you know.
Speaker 3: He calls me on the I'm like, I miss a
Speaker 3: call from him.
Speaker 2: I call him back. I'm like, du what's going on.
Speaker 2: I'm coming to join the team, baby, Like what He's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, they signed me.
Speaker 1: I'm coming up. Like I was, like, you've been working out.
Speaker 3: It's like, man, I run sometimes after I coach the kids,
Speaker 3: Like so I've been running some striders joins, the team,
Speaker 3: makes the run, plays all the snaps, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: the whole entire playoffs and a lot of people realize
Speaker 3: this tears his peck completely and play beginning of the
Speaker 3: game never comes out. Plays the rest of the game,
Speaker 3: can't even use one of his arms, and you can
Speaker 3: see him tackling with one arm. And the thing is too,
Speaker 3: he wasn't some pop like. He shredded it so bad.
Speaker 3: He had surgery. It was an eight month recovery. He
Speaker 3: couldn't play off, he couldn't do anything. He had basically
Speaker 3: was like hamburger meat. He had shredded his peck so
Speaker 3: bad and they had to sew it back together and
Speaker 3: he basically for eight months couldn't do anything his arm.
Speaker 3: And I don't think he would trade it for a second,
Speaker 3: but really really special. And then that game too, it's wild,
Speaker 3: like you think of what happened to him. Tyler Higbee,
Speaker 3: you know, gets hurt in the NFC Championship, He's out
Speaker 3: the next time. Then he gets hurt, and then you
Speaker 3: have Bryson Hopkins who hasn't played hardly a snap the
Speaker 3: whole season, who's now you're starting tight end. During this game,
Speaker 3: you lose Odell, Benny Skronick, who's a special teamer. All
Speaker 3: of a sudden, now he's starting. He's a starting receiver.
Speaker 3: So you're walking in the huddle and you're like, well,
Speaker 3: what is going on right now? Can we just keep
Speaker 3: a couple of guys healthy where we can go win
Speaker 3: this game? Uh? That drive though, with Stafford and cup
Speaker 3: Man unfreaking believable that you find your guy. They meet
Speaker 3: every morning at five am on Wednesdays, and it came
Speaker 3: to life right there talking about process over results.
Speaker 1: Baby, Now, how was how was matt right before that drive?
Speaker 10: Was he?
Speaker 1: What was his temper?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: How the first thing I'm gonna do? Just I mean,
Speaker 3: not that you're scared of Matthew. He's real sensitive about
Speaker 3: matt So we call him Matthew's mugh serious, Kelly's gonna
Speaker 3: She's gonna post on. I'm just telling you, he's gonna
Speaker 3: get you on Insta. If you don't, you gotta call
Speaker 3: him Matthew. I'm sorry, Matthew. Matthew very serious.
Speaker 2: But still I was Maddie before that. Ding, Hey, you're
Speaker 2: like me, I'm calling mathe rest of the day.
Speaker 3: No, anyway, So no, you know what's wild is like
Speaker 3: when people talk about the game, right, like, that's the
Speaker 3: things I actually remember.
Speaker 1: It's like him walking in the huddle.
Speaker 3: So you know, if people don't realize this, the quarterback
Speaker 3: is always on the side of the team like, so
Speaker 3: you know, he's communicating the coach all those things. So
Speaker 3: obviously our sideline is away from me, being the left tackle,
Speaker 3: and so Matthew's over on that side until we're looking
Speaker 3: dead into each other every time he's getting a call
Speaker 3: from Shana and kind of see Sean in the background
Speaker 3: making the calls, and I see Matthew like looking up
Speaker 3: at us, and I never him getting in the huddle
Speaker 3: and he was like, hey man, let's let's go do
Speaker 3: something special right here, you know, And there was just
Speaker 3: a look in his eye like I always said this,
Speaker 3: like Matthew to me is like John Wayne, Like he
Speaker 3: just like he's like this cowboy bad dude in the
Speaker 3: sense of he's not a cowboy type guy, but he's
Speaker 3: just a tough never hurt, never says a word like
Speaker 3: it's hit.
Speaker 1: You can literally like oh like nothing.
Speaker 3: Won't say a word like not blaming anybody, never tell
Speaker 3: you a thing like they're draining his knee, his hip, whatever,
Speaker 3: pre like he doesn't care, Like the dude's just tough
Speaker 3: and that and that's who he is. And so you're
Speaker 3: just like in the huddle, it's like, let's go do
Speaker 3: something special.
Speaker 1: Boys.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like yes, sir, you know, like nobody's
Speaker 3: touching you think of a necessary roughness if you will
Speaker 3: the movie, like nobody's gonna touch you. You know, like
Speaker 3: that's literally how you felt with Matthew Stafford in the huddle.
Speaker 3: And you know that drive obviously him and Cup really
Speaker 3: special and every play, you know, it's like that. You know,
Speaker 3: I look on the screen, it's like, hell man, it's
Speaker 3: fifteen play drift. Gosh, it felt like four months. You
Speaker 3: know it literally like every you're like, oh we found
Speaker 3: a first down. Oh we found a first down. Let's
Speaker 3: keep going, Let's keep going, let's keep going.
Speaker 1: Uh So it was.
Speaker 3: It was a wild, wild deal, but I think really special,
Speaker 3: you know, you always think those things in the way
Speaker 3: they end to have those two guys, the relationship they formed,
Speaker 3: the bond, the commitment they made to meet every single morning.
Speaker 3: We also that season had what we called the Breakfast
Speaker 3: Club meet Stafford and Cup and our wives would meet
Speaker 3: every single Tuesday, morning for breakfast. That whole entire season
Speaker 3: at Soho and Soo Soho and Malibu.
Speaker 1: We met every week.
Speaker 3: They'd have it like they were all ready for us
Speaker 3: every Tuesday morning and it really became a great bonding
Speaker 3: experience for us. And we even did it the week
Speaker 3: of the super Bowl. And the roughest one was the
Speaker 3: Tuesday after the super Bowl when we haven't none of
Speaker 3: us have slept it all. But it was like, hey,
Speaker 3: let's have one more and we met that morning and
Speaker 3: it was like, dude, what a journey this whole year
Speaker 3: we won a super Bowl. Now here we are sitting
Speaker 3: here having breakfast again. It was a special year, you
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 2: And that last drive pretty much summed up that team.
Speaker 2: Fifteen plays, you know, executing and gotta have it situations,
Speaker 2: key third downs, your go to players, making go to plays.
Speaker 1: One of the best.
Speaker 3: Not Loooks ever but not the I mean he invented it,
Speaker 3: you know, Patrick said this, like I know the people,
Speaker 3: but like Mahmes has actually said, like I grew up
Speaker 3: watching Stafford like throw the like he is the like
Speaker 3: I know nobody like talks about that much Like he
Speaker 3: is the guy who's like we invented that for a
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 2: Well Joe, Joe used to do it a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 2: a flat, a little little flat, but you know, he
Speaker 2: kind of took it a little crazy a couple times across.
Speaker 1: The damn middle.
Speaker 2: No one doesn't look across the middle. It's kind of like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is this guy doing? It would be
Speaker 2: dialed right there. But to get back, you know, you
Speaker 2: guys got banged up. No sniveling, And that's what the
Speaker 2: heart of a champion really is. You know, next man up.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna sit and worry about things you can't control.
Speaker 2: And there was no better way to probably win a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl than having your offense on the field, going
Speaker 2: out having a long, methodical drive. And you know, I
Speaker 2: remember watching that. I was I was so happy for
Speaker 2: you just because you know, we had, you know, a
Speaker 2: little relationship, and and I was so happy for Matthew
Speaker 2: I won't call him Matt, just because of the career
Speaker 2: he had and the amount of losing he's been to
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, one year come out
Speaker 2: win it with the Rams. It was just a spectacular
Speaker 2: thing to watch. It was a great story. And like
Speaker 2: we were just talking, I mean even right now, like
Speaker 2: it's still the story still going for him and in Cup.
Speaker 2: So any after parties, I was any good stories for
Speaker 2: the after parties who performed at your after party?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: We actually, you know, I'm too old for all that,
Speaker 3: you know, So I wanted to do my own deal.
Speaker 3: So we we actually me Stafford and Cup and a
Speaker 3: couple others kind of went together and did stuff with
Speaker 3: h Wood, kind of set up a deal for us
Speaker 3: at Harriet's and West Hollywood and our families and stuff.
Speaker 1: So we had a deal there, you know, a no sleeper. Obviously.
Speaker 1: I think some people ended up at like Drake's house somewhere.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I ended up agreeing at some point in the night
Speaker 3: way too excited to do Good Morning America like Today's
Speaker 3: showing up a bunch of stuff. So I literally had
Speaker 3: like trucks sitting at my house when I got like
Speaker 3: five am in the morning, got there. They're waiting on me.
Speaker 3: I got in there, did that. I'm getting like gonna
Speaker 3: go back to the house like I think I'm going
Speaker 3: to sleep, and then I get a call and it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: Ellen wants you on today, And I was like let's
Speaker 3: do it, Like all right, Well, it's eight am. I'm
Speaker 3: you know, hammered. I go to sleep right now. I
Speaker 3: don't think I'm making it to Ellen at noon, so
Speaker 3: let's just keep rolling. So we just kept it rolling,
Speaker 3: and I went to Ellen and somehow I didn't get
Speaker 3: myself completely canceled or ruined from going on there with
Speaker 3: no sleep and uh still you know, pretty intoxicated.
Speaker 1: So then after that I passed out.
Speaker 3: You know. We had breakfast Club Tuesday, the parade that afternoon,
Speaker 3: and then uh, you know what, what's wild? We actually
Speaker 3: came right here to the wind. We spent way too long.
Speaker 3: We we got a little excited, you know, a bunch
Speaker 3: of parents, Coop and Anna and Kelly and Matthew and
Speaker 3: myself and my wife Melissa decided to take up the
Speaker 3: win on an offer to come have an epic week,
Speaker 3: and so we spent five days years five days. I
Speaker 3: didn't come back to Vegas. This the most impressive thing
Speaker 3: I've heard about this whole goddamned super out to Vegas
Speaker 3: for like a year because I was like, I don't
Speaker 3: even I don't ever want to see anything in Vegas
Speaker 3: for a long time.
Speaker 1: So it was five days.
Speaker 3: It ended with going to a Chainsmoker's concert at like
Speaker 3: two am at xs standard, oh Man, and I think
Speaker 3: it was one of those flights home where the six
Speaker 3: of us, I don't think anybody said a word to
Speaker 3: each other, Like it was no no talk going home.
Speaker 3: Everyone got in their car like no by hardly at all,
Speaker 3: Like you know, just we'll see you when we see you.
Speaker 3: We'll never talk about this again. Gosh club, We're done.
Speaker 3: We ate too much, drank too much, and slept zero.
Speaker 2: So it was.
Speaker 1: It was a wild week, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Man, that's gotta be awesome in your hometown, home team town.
Speaker 1: Get the dub go to Vegas.
Speaker 2: Final score was twenty three to twenty rams on top.
Speaker 2: Name of the game. What's the name of this game?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: We got to name this game?
Speaker 1: This one's for what?
Speaker 4: This one's for what?
Speaker 2: The Rams House game? We not me game?
Speaker 1: I think that we not me game?
Speaker 2: We me game. Let's do it all right, let's score
Speaker 2: the game presented by Win. Is this the greatest game
Speaker 2: of all time? Let's score it stakes one to ten decimals. Okay, uh,
Speaker 2: here's what I'm gonna probably say. I'm gonna go seven
Speaker 2: point seven, seven point seven.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: I like that this is this is a man of
Speaker 2: Pro Score, Pro Score Score, Star Power team.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of size. I'm gonna go, honestly with
Speaker 3: the halftime show and everything. I'll put ten star Power,
Speaker 3: just be honest.
Speaker 2: Win a bunch of Hall of Famers on that damn
Speaker 2: field too.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: Gameplay O, you know, I thought kind of second half
Speaker 3: was a little of a bore for a while there,
Speaker 3: So I think if I had to do a gameplay
Speaker 3: on this one.
Speaker 7: Also, the penalty at the end kind of like takes
Speaker 7: a little to shine off.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I or the penalty to start the half.
Speaker 3: But you know, we can have that conversation if you want. Anyways,
Speaker 3: she against pulled Jayalen Ramsey down by space. But anyway, so,
Speaker 3: uh say, let's go penalty for penalty, trying to make
Speaker 3: I'm going to seven point seven again?
Speaker 1: Seven point seven.
Speaker 8: This is a gronk.
Speaker 7: This is going to be a gronk style scorer.
Speaker 4: I wonder why we're going seven point.
Speaker 2: Seven the name of the game, ooh uh you know
Speaker 2: we not me game?
Speaker 3: Well, I think because it was the slogan that Sean
Speaker 3: McVay started when he took over the regime and lived
Speaker 3: it through because you had a lot of guys have
Speaker 3: to play in the game with everybody being injured. It
Speaker 3: wasn't one of these games where you had all the
Speaker 3: stars healthy, Uh, going toe to toe and the Bengals
Speaker 3: really had kind of a bad finish and just got
Speaker 3: on fire.
Speaker 1: Uh, you had to stop that momentum.
Speaker 2: I call it we not me game of nine nine,
Speaker 2: We not me game the back end Bengals, That's what
Speaker 2: I always called. They always start off sloan in a
Speaker 2: eight point six.
Speaker 1: Where does it go? What is it rank?
Speaker 2: In the games that we've done, Tyler, This is right.
Speaker 4: Between the twenty ten AFC Division Round game, that Can't
Speaker 4: Wait game.
Speaker 5: And the Bush game where Reggie bush Boy was crazy. No, no,
Speaker 5: no different, different Bush game her yards against Fresno.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're between nineteen.
Speaker 1: Did you catch on any of the method of my numbering?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 2: I knew the point behind you can you?
Speaker 4: I got the point seven, Cala explain the other two? Nine?
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on, and some real numerology here.
Speaker 1: That's worse than math.
Speaker 4: Ten and nine, ten and nine.
Speaker 2: I don't know who ten and nine are anyways, Just
Speaker 2: ten and nine?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 3: Oh, Matthews, come on guys, if you were at Rock
Speaker 3: that trip you think, I mean, I know what branding is.
Speaker 2: It's the win that trip, the win brought us here Cooper,
Speaker 2: Matthew and Big Win.
Speaker 7: If you're on Rob Gronkowski's level, you'd be able to
Speaker 7: do this math in your head.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's grown a big math Guy's a mathematic really.
Speaker 1: I like to know that about it, big numbers guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Andrew, we you wan't to add anything
Speaker 2: to this anything, man, I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 3: Brother, dude, you got to keep killing it. You want
Speaker 3: to plug anything, I'm not a plugger. We had a plugger,
Speaker 3: not a soaker, a plugger anything. I just hang out, man, It's.
Speaker 2: Hey, man, I appreciate you coming. I've enjoyed our friendship
Speaker 2: over the years, even though we see each other rarely,
Speaker 2: but the times that we've seen each other.
Speaker 3: It's always good. Brother, It's always been great. I'm super
Speaker 3: big fan of what you've been doing on Amazon and
Speaker 3: as well. Man, keep trucking bro Let's line perspective, Road
Speaker 3: Team and the Home Team. Bro Team and the Home Team.
Speaker 2: Well that was a good episode.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, wait what again?
Speaker 2: Leader Leader?
Speaker 8: He was even protecting matt Matthew after like remember tired figures. Yes,
Speaker 8: Math's Matthew.
Speaker 4: It's Matthew. We breakfast every Tuesday at seven am. The
Speaker 4: wives were part of it.
Speaker 2: So la though, is it's very like going from Cincinnati
Speaker 2: having breakfast time at Skyline Chili to freaking having breakfast
Speaker 2: time with your wives at Soho Malibu, like.
Speaker 1: You you think it was.
Speaker 5: He said, I'm also gonna since he's not here and
Speaker 5: he can't beat me up. Mister, I'm from Louisiana down
Speaker 5: in the bio. Only drinks Perryer. Now, remember you're telling
Speaker 5: only only drinks sparkling.
Speaker 2: He said, it's because he's from the Bayou and all
Speaker 2: they drink is coke and it's lightnment like that ship man,
Speaker 2: I know they gotta avoid calories.
Speaker 7: His like deep cut on like being an offensive lineman
Speaker 7: and like.
Speaker 2: That's why he's so that's why he was great.
Speaker 5: He was he's all of Famer, big guy, great guy,
Speaker 5: and he gave us some good Sean McVay nuggets.
Speaker 1: That was awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool to see that. Like because he's
Speaker 2: eight years older than everyone, so he brought him in
Speaker 2: off of his experience and you know, he's a big
Speaker 2: part of the success of La Rams. Why the La
Speaker 2: Rams of the La Rams.
Speaker 4: Now, oh for sure, locker room guy, culture guy.
Speaker 2: I mean once once they lost him on the old line,
Speaker 2: you know, people were talking like this ain't Yeah he
Speaker 2: maybe forty, but he runs shop there. And you know
Speaker 2: because of what he the knowledge he gave to a
Speaker 2: lot of the young players, you could see that it's
Speaker 2: translating with this newer team.
Speaker 5: Seriously, Matt Longevity, I mean he was playing at lsu
Speaker 5: W and Saban was there. Yeah, then he was just
Speaker 5: playing in a super Bowl in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Like that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Good, great on TV, too, great on TV.
Speaker 4: Man, he can do it all.
Speaker 8: No one rocks a sweater underneath the jacket, a hoodie
Speaker 8: underneath the jacket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does good.
Speaker 2: Ball to head, pulls off the ball to bring that up.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to February twenty twenty two. One movie Uncharted, Uncharted, great,
Speaker 2: great video game, great video game movie, unforgettable, unwatchable.
Speaker 5: This guy that would say, wasn't it little got him?
Speaker 5: Little guy from Outer Banks, the other kid. I don't know,
Speaker 5: I like that, I liked it.
Speaker 4: I never I don't I don't even know.
Speaker 2: If I saw it.
Speaker 8: We also don't need to do too much of a
Speaker 8: deep cup. This was just like this was two years ago.
Speaker 7: If you don't remember this back in that day, takee
Speaker 7: back in my day.
Speaker 2: We talk about Brun.
Speaker 7: I remember that, like it was two years ago.
Speaker 2: We used to listen to this in the car rides.
Speaker 2: This is a this is a favorite talk about Bruno.
Speaker 2: We don't talk about Brune.
Speaker 4: No big won movie, not even a kids movie.
Speaker 1: And I know it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, around this time, Apple became a trillion dollar company.
Speaker 4: Trillion three insane.
Speaker 2: I thought they had like a trillion.
Speaker 4: In cash something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 8: She can't wait to goggles.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, life.
Speaker 4: Never have to leave your house again.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 2: My phone has been going at slowers. We get a
Speaker 2: new one here sooner.
Speaker 8: I saw, I saw, I said Diplomat Tim Cook, and
Speaker 8: he was wearing the goggles.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he's so cool with.
Speaker 2: Gosh, he's so funny.
Speaker 4: This was also the Slapper around the World month February
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. Will Smith, Oh snap. Part of me
Speaker 4: feels like that was a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Part of me feels like it wasn't that's crazy.
Speaker 8: There is a bit of a COVID time.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought for sure that was like some Hollywood stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we witnessed the Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 8: I don't think it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yo, he's gonna get tossed after that.
Speaker 8: You got to he won an oscar.
Speaker 2: I know when he gets up there and get like,
Speaker 2: I guess if it's your night, it's your night.
Speaker 4: I guess. So I'm team Chris and this one always
Speaker 4: Chris Rock.
Speaker 2: Yeah on, man, you can't do that.
Speaker 4: Come on, I love will too.
Speaker 2: That seemed like some dude party.
Speaker 8: It's a classic example of your personal life affecting your
Speaker 8: work life.
Speaker 2: Thanks Craggy Tyler, Wordle that was introduced to the world.
Speaker 4: I'm never a wordle guy.
Speaker 2: I played a few times, just not smart enough for it.
Speaker 4: I was more of a words with friends with a bee,
Speaker 4: I like the spelling bee.
Speaker 2: On New York Times, Queen Elizabeth the Second celebrates her
Speaker 2: seventieth year in Britain. Talk about longevity serving as the
Speaker 2: monarch and now she's dead, alrip. I love that show.
Speaker 8: What the monarchy the Crown?
Speaker 2: So I learned about all that stuff. I had no
Speaker 2: clue did a.
Speaker 7: I feel like Angie would have a Princess died beanie baby.
Speaker 2: Oh my mom as well? Yeah, yeah, like every yeah,
Speaker 2: every I don't know my mom's age. If you're a
Speaker 2: woman of that age, you love Princess Die. I didn't
Speaker 2: know why why And then you go and you watch
Speaker 2: a show and I don't know where the show, who's
Speaker 2: making what? Make look what? But that's what I think,
Speaker 2: That's what I think of with like everything I learned
Speaker 2: about how the monarch works. I learned about like Britain's
Speaker 2: basically owned everything and then everyone started independent or like
Speaker 2: leaving and stuff just like that. Yeah, like that in
Speaker 2: her lifetime crazy she was, she took over and like
Speaker 2: her dad died at thirty five or something and what
Speaker 2: and she wasn't supposed to be a queen. Her dad's brother,
Speaker 2: her dad brother was supposed to be the king, but
Speaker 2: he did something that he was.
Speaker 8: He wanted to marry an American.
Speaker 2: He did something, Yeah, and so then he became king
Speaker 2: ends up dying. She becomes queen at seventeen, and like
Speaker 2: that's when all like everything from everyone started breaking away
Speaker 2: from the Britain. I don't know, it's a good show.
Speaker 2: You guys should watch.
Speaker 7: I just I just I just read something or saw
Speaker 7: tech talk or anything recently. That King Charles now he
Speaker 7: doesn't like buy in completely to modern medicine, and so
Speaker 7: he has like a potionist. He's got like someone making
Speaker 7: impotions and shit, this is the King of England.
Speaker 4: Geez.
Speaker 8: I checked me on that later. Jack Sports World.
Speaker 2: Sports World National Champions Georgia os Heisman Trophy winner Bryce Young.
Speaker 8: I wonder how he's gonna pan out.
Speaker 2: He needs to have a team around him. That's tough.
Speaker 2: His strength is not like running around and looking like
Speaker 2: a phenom athlete. His strength is like distributing, reading defense.
Speaker 2: You know, he's a point guard. He just that's gonna
Speaker 2: take a while and a good coach around him. Super
Speaker 2: Bowl La Rams were the champions. We went over the
Speaker 2: game n F MVP Aaron Rodgers. It was only two
Speaker 2: years ago, m VP.
Speaker 8: This the first of the back to back crazy yeah right,
Speaker 8: I think so yeah wow.
Speaker 7: And then Brady retires for the first time. Huh remember
Speaker 7: Brady like false started his retirement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then he came back later.
Speaker 8: Because of the It was like it was like a
Speaker 8: schefter tweet, old schefter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shooting from the hip mm hmmm, just letting it
Speaker 2: spray baby, hm hmm.
Speaker 7: Messi and Argentina wins the World Cup over Membapie and
Speaker 7: Frank Was that game was?
Speaker 8: I was saying, that's a classic.
Speaker 4: Games with That's a game. That is a game.
Speaker 2: I would love to do a full games with names
Speaker 2: with Messi in Spanish.
Speaker 8: I sneaky thinks he speaks English, doesn't do it publicly.
Speaker 8: I'll get a leg baby, dude, I'm full MLS since
Speaker 8: Messi has been.
Speaker 2: So maybe like we'll cut in between things where because
Speaker 2: my Spanish is ma somanos But like, yo, wait up,
Speaker 2: how do you say almost a d uh? That was
Speaker 2: a fucking sick ass goal?
Speaker 4: Best episode yet? Oh my god, that would rock.
Speaker 2: That'd be tight. National League fully adopts the d H.
Speaker 4: Hate it, hate it, hate it, hateball. Can't do anything
Speaker 4: right these days.
Speaker 8: Hate it the shot clock I think did something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're watching on TV. But if you go
Speaker 2: to a game, you always want the game to be
Speaker 2: as long as possible. Like when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: we go to a Giants game, like on a school night,
Speaker 2: I was praying for extratings just in case my mom.
Speaker 2: It's like you guys, were up so late. You know,
Speaker 2: that was what I was hoping for.
Speaker 4: Free baseball, Mom, what's the legacy for this game?
Speaker 2: McVeigh?
Speaker 5: We got big ars answered, Yeah, where does? What does
Speaker 5: this do for mcveigh's career and kind of putting him
Speaker 5: on that.
Speaker 4: That short list of best active coaches. What do you think?
Speaker 2: I mean, he's like that new generation. He's like the
Speaker 2: start of the young gun coach that everyone looked for.
Speaker 2: Everyone's looking for the next McVeigh.
Speaker 7: It was interesting hearing Whitworth talking about McVeigh because it
Speaker 7: seems like he had a lot of parallels with what
Speaker 7: you've said about Belichick in terms of like attention to detail,
Speaker 7: focusing this is this, But it seems like he's got
Speaker 7: a more modern approach with how he handles like the
Speaker 7: players and like the personnel and hot stuff. It's just
Speaker 7: interesting to see what kind of works and doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's multiple ways to the to the top, Kyler,
Speaker 2: I think it's curious modern way.
Speaker 3: No I'm not.
Speaker 8: Don't you come at me. I'm the biggest bill guy
Speaker 8: there is. All right, dude, I think they fucked up
Speaker 8: getting rid.
Speaker 2: Of West mass You hear that right now?
Speaker 5: It is funny guy that's thirty eight years old and
Speaker 5: you're already talking about let makevagh coaching tree.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's how you know you're doing something right.
Speaker 2: That's when you know you're doing something right when you're
Speaker 2: thirty eight Yardaddy's magadaddy talk.
Speaker 8: You played against them.
Speaker 2: We played against him.
Speaker 8: When we get him on, we've been talking to him,
Speaker 8: we'll see.
Speaker 2: We gotta get his I gotta get his dad on.
Speaker 2: His dad, his dad's Ohio. They're Ohio people. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, football coach. But I went to the
Speaker 2: practice to do that Cooper Cup interview. Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: And you know he's a football coach because he gets
Speaker 2: straight up in your face and like he's like right
Speaker 2: in your face telling you a story. Literally, like we're
Speaker 2: about to make out.
Speaker 4: Cohose talkers like you remember the editor.
Speaker 2: I was at that game here. I'm like, yeah, like
Speaker 2: you just tell and then he'd walk away go do something.
Speaker 2: He'd come right back over and get my face.
Speaker 1: I'm like.
Speaker 2: That that's in the blood. The coaching's in the blood.
Speaker 2: I love it. Oh yeah, mcvazer NFL Royalty.
Speaker 5: Let's see with some other legacy questions that staff this
Speaker 5: one Stafford. Where does this kind of what does this
Speaker 5: do for the Stafford? Yeah, if you don't win this,
Speaker 5: you think you still think Hall of Fame. You know,
Speaker 5: the yards and everything in Detroit were sick, but you
Speaker 5: didn't have a playoff win till this season.
Speaker 2: So who else is in that class? Who else is
Speaker 2: in his years? See, that's what you gotta think of
Speaker 2: Stafford's class is weird because he overlaps a couple.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's kind of like a Gens X person where
Speaker 8: he's kind of like.
Speaker 1: In the middle.
Speaker 4: He was oh nine draft the same year. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: so Sanchez was in that draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with the Super Bowl one first ballot. Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, he's a tough football player too.
Speaker 8: Man Rivers is probably gonna get him without a win.
Speaker 2: Like I'm taking Maddy Stafford over Phil Yeah.
Speaker 4: Same over Breeze. Yeah, I mean I probably would.
Speaker 8: They're definitely there's a conversation there. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I do kind of lump them together in my head.
Speaker 5: It's sort of like in the same orbit of guy.
Speaker 5: I guess I think he also would.
Speaker 4: Put in there.
Speaker 7: The only difference with Breeze versus Stafford is Breeze was
Speaker 7: able to like resurrect the Saints a little bit and Stafford,
Speaker 7: whether it's his thing or not, that's for debate. But
Speaker 7: Stafford was never able to resurrect the.
Speaker 8: Lions how to leave and get success alswhere So, if
Speaker 8: there's any.
Speaker 2: Sean Payton versus the fifteen coaches, Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 8: Had Drew Brees, never had Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford was competing against Drew Brees and with just
Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson, I'm saying, and he had a couple other players,
Speaker 2: but like he used to get beat up. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, that's a good that's a great argument.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're very similar. I can see both ways on that.
Speaker 2: Will Joe Burrow win a super Bowl in Cincinnati, that's
Speaker 2: a tough one.
Speaker 7: I don't you know what they do have the Chiefs
Speaker 7: slaying Geen if anyone as that, they've.
Speaker 8: Done it for the Bengals.
Speaker 2: But he's been hurt a bunch a lot in.
Speaker 4: The first couple of years here, and can they keep
Speaker 4: that right?
Speaker 2: No one's talked about that, and we all talk about
Speaker 2: Lamar and you know, my guy, Joey b it's just
Speaker 2: he's gotten to a super Bowl, but he.
Speaker 1: He gotta.
Speaker 2: He gotta stay on the field, bro, because he's you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And then are they what are
Speaker 2: they gonna do? They're gonna lose, boyd or they they
Speaker 2: gotta They still have to address the offensive line. The
Speaker 2: defense is always really good. Hubbart Hendrickson and Loui Morillo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I saw him. I saw him in Vegas.
Speaker 4: He's a good old football school. He was cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was cool. We had a drink.
Speaker 4: I love that because he was.
Speaker 2: We used to battle against each other when he was
Speaker 2: in Miami.
Speaker 4: What's he drink, by the way, Yeah, beer guy.
Speaker 2: We were all having a little tequila. Hey all right,
Speaker 2: I like that little Tommy t.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, baby, hell yes, I mean I think Joey
Speaker 4: b gets one. I think he gets one.
Speaker 2: Okay, So who let's talk about AFC right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: Lamar Patrick Mahomes. If this was the year to get
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. I know they had a great defense, but
Speaker 2: like if you had a shootout, you could win second
Speaker 2: down and have a blitz package against the Chiefs. I mean,
Speaker 2: this was your year. Okay, So Lamar, you got a
Speaker 2: piste off Josh Allen. This guy's been humiliated. He's watching
Speaker 2: all this stuff right now. You don't think Josh Allen's
Speaker 2: pissed off at home? Who he's getting into that eight
Speaker 2: nine year or this is it's starting to come and
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And what about John Harbaugh
Speaker 2: and Justin Herbert?
Speaker 4: What about that could be a nice little duo.
Speaker 2: So it's just gonna it's getting harder and harder.
Speaker 3: No, I know.
Speaker 4: And talent's just rising and rising. And you got c. J.
Speaker 4: Stroud coming on, stro, You got a new young buck
Speaker 4: coming on.
Speaker 2: You got I don't know, Trevor Lawrence needs to get it.
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta do something down there. That was
Speaker 2: a bad miss.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that you think about it this year, and I.
Speaker 2: Know it's the teams, but it's a quarterback, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I know it looks it looked it
Speaker 2: was always Spurts with and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you're like, what the hell are we doing? Why the
Speaker 2: Jacksonville what are we doing here?
Speaker 5: After the after they had that come back against the
Speaker 5: Chargers in the playoffs last year, it was like, oh the.
Speaker 4: Peterson Peterson.
Speaker 2: They were banged up a lot. You know, you gotta
Speaker 2: learn it. That's another thing. That's why it's looking look
Speaker 2: at how why the Kansas City Chiefs. How come they
Speaker 2: got to figure it out? Oh no, they know how to?
Speaker 4: They know, they know consistency.
Speaker 2: Can they're the Kings.
Speaker 8: What do you think about this being able to reflect
Speaker 8: on this with two years the Jared Goff Matthew Stafford trade.
Speaker 2: Probably the best trade for both teams in the history league.
Speaker 2: Jared Goff, he's about to get another huge deal. Now
Speaker 2: how much he wants to take will dictate on how
Speaker 2: good his success will be. And Matty Matt Stafford, and
Speaker 2: he got a ball and he looked like he just
Speaker 2: got resurgent this year. M hm like he looks insane.
Speaker 2: He is tough. They're only gonna get better. They found Puka.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get Coop healthier next year. They're gonna get
Speaker 2: a couple of their offensive line played damn well, they're
Speaker 2: only gonna get better playing together, adding Williams, Karen Williams defense,
Speaker 2: young gun. Just I wonder what they're gonna do with
Speaker 2: Aaron Aaron Donald. But the guy next to him, he
Speaker 2: was a second team All Pro, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So like that's what but you see if Aaron Donald
Speaker 2: retires or he doesn't play, You're gonna start to see
Speaker 2: why that guy was second team All Pro potentially. And
Speaker 2: I'm not taking anything away from but when you get
Speaker 2: to play next to, you know, generational talent like you get,
Speaker 2: it makes you better because you're getting the favorable matchup
Speaker 2: most of the time.
Speaker 4: Are we talking John Williams here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I because that looked like one of those
Speaker 5: deals where it's like, oh, he feel so bad for golf.
Speaker 5: He got shipped out to Detroit. He's gonna go there
Speaker 5: and die like it's gonna suck. And then now they're
Speaker 5: the most fun team.
Speaker 7: I'm so happy for the city of Detroit that they
Speaker 7: were able to beat the Rams because that would have
Speaker 7: been catastrophic for that city.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then we did a matchup. I forgot
Speaker 4: it the big match.
Speaker 8: Like I was like watching the games, like if the
Speaker 8: Rams like lose this games, like whatever.
Speaker 2: DC, you got to tighten it up, man. I love
Speaker 2: the aggressiveness, but we gotta settle down. Dude. I know
Speaker 2: you're Parcels guy right or Peyton Sean Payton, Sean Payton guy,
Speaker 2: take some points, man, come on, man.
Speaker 7: Okay, So to wrap up this game, it's the we
Speaker 7: not game. We not me gag saying score eight point six.
Speaker 2: It should be the breakfast club gang breakfast, don't you.
Speaker 4: John?
Speaker 2: Is that what they do now when they leave the
Speaker 2: parking lot of soho soho halloa tires.
Speaker 5: Yeah, fum all time, fist bump oh. And then we
Speaker 5: got to talk about the numerology.
Speaker 2: He did here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he threw us off.
Speaker 2: Hey, no, that's I was slow.
Speaker 8: On the other time, that's hard on my radar.
Speaker 4: I was, I was the as these are of the
Speaker 4: numbers here? What do you think about that?
Speaker 7: I mean, I like that the score wasn't that high.
Speaker 7: I think it's still higher than it should be. But
Speaker 7: like I like like his team, his comarade.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think because he went to seventy sevens you gotta
Speaker 2: threw it like a random number in there. That was
Speaker 2: the outcome. Come to something better, right because he double
Speaker 2: is like, yeah, I'm an eighty six.
Speaker 4: As a diner talk maybe eighty.
Speaker 8: Six score gameplay.
Speaker 7: It did kind of end on somewhat of a controversial call.
Speaker 7: There was another like if the biggest moments of the
Speaker 7: game are like two controversial calls, that kind of takes
Speaker 7: away from like the sanctity of the gameplay.
Speaker 2: The name I never heard we not me.
Speaker 8: It sounds nice a rhymes, but like culturally it's not
Speaker 8: really there, right right, it's star Power.
Speaker 2: Fine, this is a breakfast This is a breakfast club.
Speaker 4: Score Yeah, breakfast love store with the mine now score.
Speaker 8: All right, Well that's that's that episode.
Speaker 2: Let's do the Let's hit the whole hot line to
Speaker 2: see what's on your mind again. That number is four
Speaker 2: two four two nine one two two nine.
Speaker 11: Zero doing don't b'll check.
Speaker 1: Just get off the stupid.
Speaker 11: Damn podcast for getting the fucking team back together already
Speaker 11: called tom is gonna be here tomorrow. Get your fucking
Speaker 11: ass to practice tomorrow. Get grown, come with them. We're
Speaker 11: gonna get this fucking shit going. I'm not going anywhere
Speaker 11: else for starting a new fucking team. Really need fucking
Speaker 11: eleven guys. Get the fucking practice tomorrow. I don't want
Speaker 11: no bullshit.
Speaker 2: Feel put your fucking ship on. I'm telling you, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be raining. Get out, see you on the grass.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Pretty good, bums.
Speaker 4: I like Eddie's starting.
Speaker 2: Start sending in their Belichick impersonations and then I'll just
Speaker 2: give a ranking on it.
Speaker 8: I like that that's a whole new podcast the spinoffs.
Speaker 2: And then uh, I can't wait for the first time
Speaker 2: that I see Bill in person. He's probabing a mother
Speaker 2: fucking over it. Luck juels like, what the fuck me?
Speaker 2: Just shut the fuck up about my whole voice.
Speaker 8: Hey, maybe that's in the Fox Green Room next year.
Speaker 4: Oh man, oh boy, Frank kelland in.
Speaker 6: There too, Yo, guys, it's your boy doll from PA
Speaker 6: quick question and.
Speaker 3: Better and a pair of jort gronks or jewels and
Speaker 3: why is.
Speaker 10: It actually Jackie?
Speaker 6: Thanks?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Oh me, I know that much, brother.
Speaker 5: The legs are a point of emphasis this offseason in
Speaker 5: the weight room, so it ain't me, but I will
Speaker 5: say the amount of comments we would get last season
Speaker 5: when we were back in.
Speaker 4: New York on the jorts. The people love the jorts.
Speaker 4: You rock him, brother?
Speaker 2: You know where? You know where I got the jeorts from?
Speaker 4: Frank? No, those two were Jessica Simson and Dukes of Hazzard.
Speaker 2: You guys remember Flipper, Yeah, the old one from like
Speaker 2: Nick and Knight. Yeah, a little kid used to have jort.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I thought that was tight.
Speaker 4: I would not have guessed that as where he got
Speaker 4: him from.
Speaker 2: He got his name. But I like that show. Okay,
Speaker 2: I lived in Hawaii, had jeorts. It was a fucking
Speaker 2: pet dolphin, like the one from the like the Burt
Speaker 2: Rend like from the sixties, that one. No, it's like
Speaker 2: a TV show Flipper.
Speaker 4: Oh, the New Adventures of Flipper. I think I was
Speaker 4: looking at Flipper. It looks like Flipper was revised in
Speaker 4: ninety five as the New Adventure.
Speaker 2: It's way older than that, Like it's from like the sixties.
Speaker 4: That's when I said the sixties earlier it was. He
Speaker 4: was in like some of them.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: Brian Kelly Luke, the kid.
Speaker 2: It was a kid, Yeah, Bud Ricks.
Speaker 4: Aka Tommy Norton also known as Tommy Norton. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: was uh yeah, all right, yeah he was a George rocker.
Speaker 8: I feel like George is not the best attire if
Speaker 8: you're going to be by the ocean, all I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need more of a year a wicked material.
Speaker 4: Oh man, yeah, he's got them things on Tommy shout
Speaker 4: out Tommy.
Speaker 2: Norton bro hell yeah, hell yeah, a good question.
Speaker 4: Gronk. I bet Gronk could pull him off though.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, his vmos look tight as hell.
Speaker 4: Hell he is well Jules Allo High School kids from
Speaker 4: fox bor and uh we just my football team just
Speaker 4: want to state championship.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was wondering if you heard about that. What
Speaker 2: do you think Foxborough High statey at the Turkey Bowl
Speaker 2: because I played. I think they played the state championships
Speaker 2: in Gillette. Yeah, let's fucking go Foxborough High. Hell yeah
Speaker 2: we were so. We were referenced to you guys so
Speaker 2: many times when we had a bad football player.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, a lot of those kids
Speaker 4: could beat you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, according to coach, Hey, kids have fucking Foxborough High.
Speaker 2: I could do so technically, coach, we really could. They're
Speaker 2: state champions.
Speaker 8: But hey, Massachusetts state championships are bullshit. Why it was
Speaker 8: like twenty five of them. They've got more state champions
Speaker 8: than Texas.
Speaker 2: Why don't you Why don't you just crap in their
Speaker 2: corn flakes?
Speaker 8: No, it's good for them.
Speaker 2: Kyler kids just won state.
Speaker 8: And someone who lost the Division three B Super Bowl
Speaker 8: Central Mass versus Western Mass.
Speaker 2: There it is, guys, Hey, he just he hates you
Speaker 2: because he hates you. He hates you because he ain't you.
Speaker 2: Foxboro High playing in their own backyard. The second rank
Speaker 2: Foxborough High team clinched the i AA Division five Super
Speaker 2: Bowl forty eight twenty one over top ranked and over high.
Speaker 2: Hey Kyler, did they win the last game they could
Speaker 2: have played in it?
Speaker 8: Sure's the congratspots for high Shitna.
Speaker 2: We're sending you guys.
Speaker 8: We've got no information on text us say some merged dog.
Speaker 10: Hell yeah, hey, Jules, my name is Megan. I am
Speaker 10: twenty two and I go to your alma Martar, Kent
Speaker 10: State University. I wanted to call in and ask that
Speaker 10: you bring on someone of the life of Nick Saban
Speaker 10: or someone who was on the ten state championship team
Speaker 10: and talk about that big football win before Staban, of
Speaker 10: course went to professional league to coach. Also wanted to say,
Speaker 10: I've been trying to DM you.
Speaker 6: On Instagram because I would love it if you could
Speaker 6: come to my graduation from kentn State of course this
Speaker 6: spring twenty twenty four.
Speaker 10: It's on the apent by the way.
Speaker 6: Anyway, I think it'd be really dope if you talked
Speaker 6: about that game. Anyway, I hope to see you do
Speaker 6: this and hope to see you at my graduation maybe
Speaker 6: hah yeah, Okay.
Speaker 11: By.
Speaker 4: Megan.
Speaker 8: It took to ten years to go to his own graduation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely gotta Megan. We gotta get saving on rock.
Speaker 2: He's doing TV with the ESPN.
Speaker 8: Now I know he's called College Game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to get on here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: He goes on McAfee all the time. Come on here,
Speaker 4: come see.
Speaker 2: Us, baby. He was I think he's he gives he's
Speaker 2: our number one booster is really I think or he's
Speaker 2: something like that. He donates the most of our football program.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, that's fucking awesome.
Speaker 4: I'm a miss Terry baby love him.
Speaker 2: I would love to have a conversation with Nick. Have
Speaker 2: you guys ever met? We've met I think in passing,
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I love coach Saban. I was a
Speaker 2: type fan because of coach Saban a little bit save.
Speaker 5: I think we all kind of like, yeah, like I
Speaker 5: just want to witness greatness and keep rooting them on
Speaker 5: what game.
Speaker 2: I just like because he went to Kent State. Did
Speaker 2: he play at Kent State or he like, yeah, he
Speaker 2: played nineteen she's talking about nineteen seventy two. I think
Speaker 2: it was seventy two. Is the last time we went?
Speaker 8: Is that when Jack Lambert was there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played with our I think coach may have
Speaker 2: played with.
Speaker 8: Him because Limbert was drafted, what seventy four.
Speaker 5: Saban was there from seventy to seventy two, just defensive back, baby,
Speaker 5: But then he was a GA at Kent State from
Speaker 5: seventy three to seventy four, seventy five, seventy six linebackers coach.
Speaker 5: So yeah, he got his playing careers going there and
Speaker 5: coach his begin his coaching career there.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, what a fucking guy.
Speaker 5: What about a Flashes baby, Golden Flash? What about Antonio Gates?
Speaker 5: You guys definitely running too each other.
Speaker 2: We've seen each other like an All Star or something.
Speaker 8: I think I saw him at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He was around.
Speaker 2: I'm dafting. I mean, Joe Walsh.
Speaker 4: I'm just going down my list of great Kenton State guys.
Speaker 2: Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton.
Speaker 4: People forget Jim Oh, Jim, Drew Carey, Drew.
Speaker 8: Carrey character, he'd be an awesome guess. He's a he's
Speaker 8: like a old time football fan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cleveland Rocks.
Speaker 2: Rocks dude.
Speaker 4: Oh, Steve Harvey too, shout.
Speaker 1: Out Steve Harvey.
Speaker 4: Our Sinio, dude, our Sineo. We're punching above our way
Speaker 4: here at Kent State.
Speaker 8: Hey we oh ship David Sedaris.
Speaker 2: Kent State. Man, I'm telling you we got some fucking people.
Speaker 2: We we when I when I went on my visit there,
Speaker 2: they go, Yeah, we have the uh we have the
Speaker 2: research team that developed the plasma TV. Hell yeah. Three
Speaker 2: weeks later the LCD came out ruined it.
Speaker 4: Plasma was not the wave after that. Fuck Oh, James Arison,
Speaker 4: shout out James Arison.
Speaker 8: Harrison, Gary guy, Yeah, get him get him on, do that.
Speaker 8: He had that like ninety nine yards return for cars down.
Speaker 4: What about what's now?
Speaker 2: I'm thinking we gotta get James Harrison off.
Speaker 4: He's a legend, bro, he could legend.
Speaker 2: You guys left this whole house.
Speaker 8: You guys had a little layover it or little play together. Yeah,
Speaker 8: what is what is ken?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: What is Kent State? Like in the spring around graduation time.
Speaker 2: May fourth, nineteen seventy is when they had the shooting.
Speaker 2: Not cool the state the state troopers. Yeah. But the
Speaker 2: crazy thing is that was like that weekend was like
Speaker 2: a party weekend for it or something. It was like
Speaker 2: the biggest craziest. There was Sherman Street, there was College Street,
Speaker 2: College fast Ermania. Oh, it's pretty crazy, but that was
Speaker 2: an awesome episode. Thank you again. Told Whitworth spectacular to
Speaker 2: have him on. We gotta do some shit with him. Awesome.
Speaker 2: I think he's out, he's around here.
Speaker 4: No, I think he's still around regardless.
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