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I 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:12.440 am Jeff Joniack blitzes on, Donnie got what was like 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.280 playing for coache goodgo I don't want to answer any 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.360 questions like that pressure coming is a big trouble, Donnie 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.320 Goes Mottest. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:28.280 Sweat Bears et Cetera, brought to you by Miller Light 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.360 with the voices of the Bears, Jeff Joniac and Tom Thayer. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.080 Well, it's been an emotional and contemplative week at Hallis 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:39.879 Hall with the entire McCaskey Hallis family, Bears employees, coaches, players, fans, 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.120 ex players, and of course the passing of Virginia Hallis. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.520 McCaskey laid the rest at the age of one hundred 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.279 and two with Super Bowl winning Bears guard top there. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.000 I'm Jeff Joniac and this is episode one of the 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.200 Bears et Cetera podcast. It's brought to you by Miller Lte. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.000 Our special guest this week is the one and only 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.840 on our Zoom call. It's Nutty Buddy, but it is Peanut, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.480 Charles Peena Tilmey kind enough to join us. So you doing, Charles, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.080 Nutty Buddy? Where did this come from? 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:10.400 Lance Lance Briggs. He he got me. He gave me 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.680 the nickname Nutty Buddy. So when I don't want to 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.440 use my name peanut Tin, I'll just use uh, I'll 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:17.360 just use Nutty Buddy. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.640 From what I understand, there was one person who would 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.880 never call you peanut Tillman, and that would be the 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.400 late Missus McCaskey. Always Charles, correct. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:30.360 Always Charles. She was man one o two. How about 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.680 can we just comment that. We'll talk about that for 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.759 a second, one o two, one hundred and two years old. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.280 How about that? How blessed was she? And to not 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.200 only be it, to live the wonderful life, to be 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.640 one hundred and two. She was witted at one hundred 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.000 and two. She could walk and talk and mentally she 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:52.600 was as sharp as attack. She she yeah, she was, 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.160 she was with it. I I that's that's that's a 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.280 that's a great way to go out. One O two 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:02.640 family kids grant like that's man. I hope I'm that blessed. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:04.520 You know. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.360 The thing about yesterday or the service for Virginia McCaskey 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:12.760 is that everybody that I see because of the people 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.840 that she's brought together throughout her lifetime in my lifetime. 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.760 I enjoy seeing everybody. And it's kind of a weird 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.000 set of circumstances because when I was at my mom's 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.720 service and my dad's service, eventually, every once in a 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.880 while you do get emotionally by the eye contact you made. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.560 The only person I got emotional with when I saw 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.360 him walk into the building was Virginia McCaskey. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.800 But yesterday, when I was at that event, the. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:44.480 Alumni that came before me, the alumni that came after me, 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:51.880 I truly enjoy seeing being around, hugging, handshaken, whatever course 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:56.799 of the conversation it takes you. And she is solely 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:02.160 responsible for the gratitude inside that room yesterday that everybody 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.399 appreciated absolutely. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:05.040 I mean. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:06.799 It was. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:13.280 It was a funeral service, however she was celebrated, you know, 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.079 like I mean that was that was a feeling that 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.040 I got. I think the service, it was a beautiful service, 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.519 and it was it was a joyous I wish we 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.480 could have been together on a different occasion. However, it 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.120 was a great. It was great seeing my teammates, you know, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:33.840 other other owners, the commissioner fellow alone. It was I 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.360 don't want to use the word a joyous occasion. However, 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.720 we were able to We were able to smile and 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:40.119 celebrate Miss mccaski. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.120 You know what, I heard a quote the other day 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.600 and it said, with grief, there can be happiness. Yeah, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.320 and and and it kind of fit the room there, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.680 because the grief that we are all suffering with the 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:57.120 passing of Virginia McCaskey, there's also a happiness that goes 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.600 with eye contact of guys you like seeing, and whether 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.040 it's sitting in the pew and getting a chance to 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.960 say hi to a guy like Erlacker, who I have 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.920 such admiration for as the football player that I broadcast 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.000 for for all those years. But then after our careers 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.920 are over, it's almost like we become not he and I, 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.720 but all the guys in that room become better friends 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.560 because everything that we've we've gone through in our in 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.160 our professional lifetime. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.400 Yeah, I know, the one thing I've learned about the funerals, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.039 and then I haven't done a ton, but I've been 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.520 to a few, and they always put things in perspective 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.040 and it makes you see, It makes you see the 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.640 bigger picture, you know, And and every every hers was 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.600 missus mccaskey's funeral is no different than your say, and 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:47.640 it just makes me you want to see the bigger 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.480 picture as far as like, you know, the relationship I 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.360 have with my kids, my friends, being kind, treating people 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.240 with kindness and just you know, just showing love and 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:01.360 just appreciation for all the things that are more. And yeah, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:05.480 I'm grateful to you have known her. I'm grateful to 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.800 have really really known her. The thing that I want 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:15.200 people to know about Miss McCaskey is she when my 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.880 daughter went through her heart transplant, Ms McCaskey felt I 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.520 think she felt so bad to where she couldn't do anything. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:28.280 So she wrote she wrote me a handwritten letter, great penmanship, 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.360 she wrote this letter. Yeah, she wrote this letter in 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.840 my family and I and essentially just said, you know, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:38.440 I'm sorry for what for what you're going through, and 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.000 you know, please I will be praying for you and 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.800 your family and your daughter, especially for speedy and healthy recovery. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.320 And you know, made the Lord bless you. I mean, 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:55.120 just a very She was a kind, gentle, sweethearted woman, 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.679 and I was very appreciative of the main owner reaching 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.720 out to myself and my family at that time and 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.200 that meant the world to me. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.560 For savings and service. Get more with Geico. Yes, there's 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.160 the maternal instinct that really any person that was that 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:10.560 like a. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:14.200 Drop for uh, it was and we got a lot 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:21.960 of that was that was that was funny. But but 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.080 just throw them in there. Yeah, it's hilarious. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:26.800 You'll get more of them. You'll get more of. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.840 It's like you got like advertisement to rents. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.000 Yeah, we gotta spread we gotta spread them out. We 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:36.960 can't do them all in once. 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:37.720 Some repeat. 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.000 But but I gotta say that it's it's the maternal instincts. 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.719 And she, in fact, no matter who she came in contact, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.559 there was a motherly aspect about her. For this woman 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.880 who was a mother of eleven children and as you 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.960 pointed out, the many grandchildren, the great grandchildren, the four 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:59.400 great great grandchildren, and being at the service at the 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.760 at the way of the day before and spending some 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.000 four hours there and just seeing the line and I 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.960 don't know how many people actually went through that line 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.160 over the course of seven eight hours, but everybody, and 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.680 as Tom you referred to, it did feel like a 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:19.960 family environment, a family reunion of sorts, even though we 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.480 are not a part of the family. The McCaskey hallis family. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.800 We are in a sense if you've been around the 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.600 organization for as long time he forty years, pe in 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:34.080 it a couple decades here myself. Wow, three decades. It's 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.240 a crazy number. And you are welcomed into her family. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.720 And no matter if you played or in our case, broadcast, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.040 or if you're in the cafeteria working that line. I mean, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.120 that's the unique aspect of it. She brought people together. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.400 She did bring people together, and I hope she is 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:57.400 upstairs with our maker, you know, seeing her hubby, her dad, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.040 and all the people that she missed out on, and 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.720 you know, her son and her kids. I don't know 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.720 to her kids had pass away, So I hope they're 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.160 up upstairs having a grand old time. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.720 You know, Charles, I've always wanted to ask you this 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.920 question because there's a little there's some similarities in our 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.560 upbringing with the Chicago Bears. I remember going to the 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:21.040 Hula Bowl when you played at Maui Memorial Stadium, when 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:22.760 you are senior in college and. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.880 I didn't know who you were. I didn't know a 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:25.520 lot about you. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.280 I was just watching you guys play football, and then 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.360 you came to the Chicago Bears, and you walk in 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.839 that door as a young kid, you walk out the 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:37.600 door as a more mature kid. So when I left 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.560 the Bears, I chose to go to the Miami Dolphins. 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.120 When you left the Bears, you chose to go to 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.040 the Carolina Panthers. Was an easy choice for you? Did 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.719 you not want to leave the Bears behind? Because it 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.200 wasn't a just it wasn't a clear cut decision, Okay, 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.280 I'm going wherever I'm going to go. I had to 0:08:55.640 --> 0:09:00.360 think about it because of we were raised by the Bears. Yeah, 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.200 but then it was a difficult decision. 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:08.000 It was extremely difficult. It's funny you say that, and 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.880 I haven't thought about that in a while. That's a 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.800 really good question. Yeah, it was a very difficult decision. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.679 I didn't I didn't want to leave. I was I 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:22.000 was actually scared to leave because Chicago was the only 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.400 thing that I knew and I was very comfortable. I 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:30.640 liked the situation. I liked the organization. I liked my teammates, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.120 I liked my house, I liked the area. I liked 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.839 our fans, I liked the team. I like, you know, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.040 this is the people in the building. I was extremely comfortable, 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:44.360 so it was it was extremely hard to leave. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:45.360 What made it. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.600 Easier is when they didn't retain my contract and I said, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.400 all right, cool. That made it a little bit easier 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.199 when they said we're not signing you again. So that 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.640 made it a little easier to leave and go to 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.959 a different team. But initially I was I was scared. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.560 Thomas Davis tried to get me to to Carolina years ago, 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.079 but I was just like, no, man in Chicago, like, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.000 I'm cool here. He wanted me to go two years 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.920 prior to that, and I just kept resigning with Chicago. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.160 He kept tronto. I was just like, no, man, I 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.840 like Chicago. It's the only thing I know. So yeah, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:21.800 it was definitely definitely a hard decision to leave. You're 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.520 absolutely right, you know what. 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:28.000 I wish that for this current team, Like the longer 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.280 you stay, the more you obviously grow roots here. You 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.800 have family, you don't want to move your kids. It's 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.480 a great city. And if you're a Bear, your love forever. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:42.280 If you're a Bear who wins, you're honored forever. You know, 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.000 if you win a super Bowl like Tommy or just 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.959 if you're one of the greats of the game. You're 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.160 going to always have a place and everybody's heart here 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.040 in Chicago. So I hope, I wish that for guys. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.880 The constant change obviously is not allowed for that in 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:01.800 recent years, but I certainly hope that for this particular bunch, right, No, Well, I. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.920 Think that's probably one of the sad things about the 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.600 sport is guys, and it's it's kind of the average. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:09.800 It's kind of just what people do. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:10.280 You go. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.599 Three years, four years, and then you're off to a 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:18.680 new team. You know, Tom, what I can appreciate about 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.920 your when you played, most of the time, you just 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.360 stayed in your position. Excuse me, you stayed at one 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.199 organization for the entirety of a career. I'd kind of 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:30.959 like to see that more. But with how the game 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.240 is and contracts, you know, sometimes this is not the 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.200 right fit. So I totally get it, and I totally 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:41.560 respect it. However, like you said, Jeff, yeah, I hope 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.000 that the nucleus, the core group of these guys. I 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.319 hope they stay together for a while because they have 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.000 a lot of potential to do a lot of amazing things. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:52.160 You know. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.400 It's one thing that's I think The most amazing thing 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.439 about you, Charles is the further you become removed from 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.280 the game as a player, the bigger you get. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:00.800 Ye, because. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:06.480 It's true, Well, it's between Pop Warner, high school football, 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:11.360 college football, Canadian League, the NFL, the UFL. There's I 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.000 hear Peanut punch week in and week out. There's never 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.880 a weekend goes by that there's not some highlight that 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.800 that is brought up. And then that's the amazing thing 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.559 about you and the success of your career, because I 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:30.040 still think cornerback is the second most difficult in football 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.079 to play outside of quarterback. And then your unique brand, 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:39.800 your unique style of playing that position, and then what 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.280 you left in your legacy in the way it's taught, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:48.920 coach preached. Now it's amazing because every weekend I watch 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:50.520 football and I watch highlights. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.240 I think at Charles Tillman, Well. 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.200 They're talking about it too every time, especially in. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.199 The postseason, because they make references to them, and it's like, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.880 oh my god. I mean, there's not a day go 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:01.480 by that you don't hear about him. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:06.360 I'm I'm really honored by that. It's it's funny to 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.439 just that you all say that obviously the New York 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.599 not New York, excuse me, the Eagles. Sirianni. He he 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.800 made the comment and he said, yeah, we watched the Peanuts. 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.880 Tell me. I told my video guy, hey, get every 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.559 punch out that that man had, and he said, I 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.760 showed him to our team. I showed him and I 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.719 thought it was I thought it was great. I'm I'm 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.079 I'm honored by it. And I had a chance to 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:34.000 talk to one of the linebackers, Bond. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:36.800 Yeah. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.800 I talked to Bond and he literally is like, hey man, 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.719 we've been watching the film. I'm a huge fan. And 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.319 then him and I we just chopped it up and 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.920 had a conversation and really just I gave him a 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.599 quick tip like, hey man, here's you know. This is 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.959 what I this is how I was successful at it. 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.319 Make it your own. But when a guy does this, 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:58.880 this is what I'm doing. When he does this, this 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:00.959 is what I'll do. I'll count with this. So just 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:05.800 trying to give him some tools to to help himself win. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:10.199 But yeah, I appreciate it. I love the fact that 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.199 it's kind of changed the game and people are doing it. 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.280 You know, defensive players are making a cautious effort to 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.920 just not just make the tackle by like with force, 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.560 but they're actually attempting to punch the ball out, not 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.560 the old school get it, rip it and you know 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.320 the thing that they taught in high school back in 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.440 the day when I played. But now they're just like, nah, 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.360 he don't even do this some more, just get in 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:38.080 there and punch that thing. So yeah, man, I like 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.160 to think I was a guy that bought out thinking 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:45.320 outside the box. And yeah, it's something that's stuck and 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.720 I'm I'm kind of I'm really proud of I'm really 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.360 proud of my stylog. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.880 The other thing is catching a good thing, your peanut. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.000 The peanut punch just rolls off your tongue. That's that's 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.880 something that's going to live forever in the NFL. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.600 Right if your name was like Larry, it just wouldn't 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.560 work Larry Larry. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.000 Yeah, we'd have to come up with something different. 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:06.440 Yeah. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.440 Thank you to our partners CDW and Lenovo who make 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.000 things happen. How about amazing things happen? 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Just talking to Briner Lacker at the ceremony 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.160 the other day, just that just his face is stunned. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.200 I mean, it's it's it's a lot because he met 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.600 a lot to all of us. That was the first 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.280 year I was the play by play anouncer for the 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.560 Bears with Tom and how Barkish and Dick Guron. You know, 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.480 I asked a lot of advice of Dick Duron about 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.720 that first year and it was a playoff year. It 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:11.280 was a great year. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:12.320 Yeah, I was. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.200 I was sad to get that that called. You know, 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.840 mis McCaskey died the day before, and I gotta I gotta. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.560 I got a text message from Vance Bedford, my old 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.240 dB coach, and he was the one who informed me 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:28.960 that coach Tron had passed away. And yeah, coach coach 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:34.760 Heran was a soft spoken, uh defensive genius. I mean 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.560 he was a bad man back in his day when 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.840 he played. And I didn't. I didn't know that I was. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.720 I was clueless to who he was at first when 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.240 I got drafted, and Dwayne Joseph was like, wait, you 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.960 don't know who coach Ryan Man? You better google his name. 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:53.200 He got a nice resume. And because obviously you know, 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:54.960 if you know coach Sern, he's not going to brag 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.800 about himself. He's not gonna talk about himself. So I 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.640 had to. I had to school myself on who he was. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.879 And you know, you can pull up some clips and plays. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:07.520 It was an all Pro maate, you know, made the 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.000 Pro Bowl like he was nice with it. He was 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.080 nice with it. And I want dig I'm I can't. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.280 I'm in Chicago because of dig Giron. You know that's 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.359 that's what I want. Coach Smith, all respect to him, 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.600 he didn't bring me to Chicago. Coach Giron brought me 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.800 to Chicago. I only got a chance to play for 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.560 him for a year, but I'm very grateful that he 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:34.119 saw something in me to want, uh, I want the 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.040 Bears to draft me, to get coach excuse me, general 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.120 manager ger Angelo to draft me. So I'm extremely grateful 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:44.920 for for coach Duran and allowing me to start my 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.720 career in such a wonderful friendship. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:49.840 Did you ever ask him what it was that you 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:51.240 he signed you? 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.960 No, I didn't. I did not. I just remember really 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.639 for the most part, it was him and Coach Blosh 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:04.200 Uh the DC and they just long, linky, tall guy. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.600 If I remember Craigically, coach Coach Block said just because 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:12.040 they needed a taller corner and I was a tall corner, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.399 that I could play safety or I could play corner. 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:16.600 Funny thing, what I don't think a lot of people 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.639 know is I don't think people know I played safety, 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.359 and when I got drafted, I didn't know if I 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:27.159 was a safety or a corner. And then we were 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:31.440 walking in the hallway to my very first dB meeting 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.159 and I had I was talking to coach John and 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.600 I was like, I'm sorry, coach, I'm kind of new 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.800 to this. I don't I know I'm glateful to be here, 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:42.879 but I just kind of want to am I am 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.760 I safety? Or am I a corner? Like I don't, 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:46.680 I don't really have a position. I don't I don't 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.440 know anything right now. And he goes and it's kind 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.280 of like his soft spoken voice was like, Eh, we're 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.360 gonna try out that corner first to see how that goes. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.080 And I said okay, and yeah, I never I never 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.280 looked back once he said I was a corner. I 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.840 never looked back. I never even thought about failing. I 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.120 just was like, hey, I'm a corn National Football League, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:06.440 let's make it work. 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:07.760 Charles. 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.080 You never had an offensive minded head coach in your 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:10.920 professional career? 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.119 Did you never all defensive coaches? 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:14.600 Yeah? 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.280 I think that kind of probably was to your benefit 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.600 early in your career. When you're talking to a defensive 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.320 back about where you best fit, you know, they probably 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:28.159 have vision and anticipation of what your skill set is 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:29.159 best best for. 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:34.680 Absolutely it was a coach drawn coach Smith And no, 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:41.199 I did have I had one offensive coach twenty thirteen 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.400 and twenty fourteen those two years, George Tressman. Coach Tressman. Okay, yeah, 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:46.760 I forgot yeah, yeah, Yeah. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.119 Yeah, for savings the service get more with Geico and 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.280 a Chicago's hometown team for over one hundred and twenty 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.399 five years, jewel Osco's grocery game remains strong as they 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.359 continue to deliver weekly savings on family favorites. You can 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.960 also count on jewel Osco for hot digital deals, convenient 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.040 drive up and go services, and more. Final moments here 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.720 with Charles Penat Tillman. You're at the Super Bowl. I 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.600 know it's an award that many players feel is short 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.840 of the Hall of Fame, is the most honored gift 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.280 as the Walter Payton Man of the Year, which you 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:17.159 were one. You go every Super Bowl probably for a 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.359 lot of other reasons. But when you walk into whatever 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.399 sound that is going to be this case, it was 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.600 New Orleans and you go down meet Radio Row and 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.520 all that is that still feel wonderful to you that 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:29.240 you were that man. 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.359 It does because the award of the award has gotten 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.919 a lot bigger. I talked to Marty Lyons. He played. 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:39.560 I don't know if he was a d N or. 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.080 Detailed defensive in Terror or defensive Lions? 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:43.440 Tom. 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:44.119 Did you block him? 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:45.200 Did you block Marty Lions? 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.760 How'd you fare. I have a little scar on my forearm, 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:51.159 my right forearm from we. 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.920 Played him December tenth, nineteen eighty five, freezing cold in 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:55.560 New York. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.639 I think we beat him ten to nothing. 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.280 But he was part of that New York sack exchange. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:01.640