WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: A Good Brother 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.440 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:13.399 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:18.599 Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:23.800 the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:30.280 Newe Scrugs. Here we are on a Monday. Hello everybody. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.120 This is the Players Lounge, brought to you by Hotels 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:36.120 dot Com. He is the Toledo Rocket, Barry Church, undrafted 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:39.560 safety with the Dallas Cowboys, or other running buddy here 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.400 on the show. Danny McCray is out, so he'll return 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.720 to the Players Lounge very soon, out on assignment. I'm 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:51.760 NEWI Scrugs, longtime Cowboys broadcaster here. Um, this is gonna 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.279 be a show band where we're gonna try and keep 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:59.040 it together here from the standpoint of Gary Brown, former 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.480 running back coach with the Cowboys, has passed away at 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:09.039 fifty two years old. Oh yeah, GBS, just a few 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.760 months older than me. It's crazy, okay. So, so GB 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:17.000 was a guy I watched run in college and run 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:21.160 with the Houston oilin I mean, you know, to watch 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.200 him do his thing man as a running back and 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.600 then become a head become a running back coach where 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.520 he was the head of that running back room. Just 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.840 the way he treated those guys like kids. Um Our 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.679 TV station Channel five did a lot of different things 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:40.160 with Gary. We knew him and his one daughter was 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.240 in need of a transplant, so we watched him go 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:48.480 through some family health challenges, man, and I knew he 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.440 was in hospice, and when he got the news yesterday, man, 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.760 it was it was just very sad because he was 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.840 such a good guy. He was an amazing man. I mean, 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.320 he was the type of guy who it didn't matter 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.639 where you were, first round, second round, undrafted, you practice squad, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.720 no matter what it is. He treated everybody the same 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.040 and when you went out there, and he had that 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.239 same demeanor each and every practice, no matter what the situation. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.799 We were five and five and ten, or we were, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.640 you know, thirteen and one, he came with that same 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:25.000 smile to practice each and every day, choking with us, 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.200 keeping everything lighthearted. I mean, the guy was just an 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.359 amazing man, amazing coach. And he you know, he had 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.960 DeMarco when he had his best years. He had you know, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.440 Ezekiel Ellis rookie year when he was flying all over 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.440 the place. I mean, the guy was a hell of 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.160 a coach. But even more than that, he was a 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.800 hell of a man. And there was just so many 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.240 life lessons he would teach you throughout the day. Just 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.079 he would just sit down at our lunch table over 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.200 there after practice and he would just chopping up with you. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:51.720 I mean, he'd be one of the only coaches that 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.000 would sit down and eat lunch with his players and 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.040 he would literally sit there and just chop it up 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.480 about anything, whether it's rap music, football, life in general. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:03.000 I mean, the guy was an outstanding man and he 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.440 treated everybody with just he was just as a standing man. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.000 He give the shirt off his back if he could. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.639 And I mean, just these this news is, like you said, 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.560 it's very saddening. And he was such a young man, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.480 just young in life general, so and he had so 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.200 many trials and tribulations with family health, like you mentioned, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.000 it's just it's just very sad, you know, hearing the 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.040 news about gb passing and um, you know, condoless to 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.480 his family. I know they're going through it right now, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.519 but you know, condoles is to them. And like I said, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:30.799 that guy was as a hell of a coach and 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:32.919 even better. He was a hell of a man, father, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.000 you know, husband, all that good stuff. So, like I said, 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.240 adults is to the family. But that was man, I 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.000 was a shocker right there. You don't want to think 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.280 that when you're twenty six, twenty seven years old, that's 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.920 the midpoint of your life. But essentially that's what it was. Yeah, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.520 for Gary Brown. And whoever speak to this funeral, I 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:54.680 hope they say two words about him, and these two 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.960 words you will understand because of what they mean in 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:02.160 our culture. Good brother out of doubt, without a doubt, 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.680 good brother, solid brother, however you want to call it. Man, 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.360 he was. He was all the above, and that is 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:12.000 a that is a a term that is not giving 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.600 out easily. And you don't say about many people. And 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.680 when somebody speaks up for Gary, does somebody please say 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.760 he was a good brother? He was when you when 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:25.680 you you know, that's why we're sitting here now, man, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.400 with just heavy hearts talking about Gary Brat that was 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.520 a good brother. He liked people in general. He would 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.160 he actually gave a damn about you when he talked 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.480 to you and you and I know in this business 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.719 there's a lot of folks who seeing past you or 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:40.800 what is it you can do for me? Yeah, exactly, 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:42.800 And he was the exact opposite. I mean, I remember 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.240 when I was in Jacksonville, I'll be watching hard Knocks 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.039 over here in Dallas and he was still the running 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.880 backs coach. And I forget the young man's name with 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:51.960 the goggles. I think his name was Hardy. I think 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.200 his name running back Hardy or whatever was. But they 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.640 had segments and hard Knocks where you know, he was 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.000 talking to Zeke at them, and he was coaching Hardy 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.720 just as hard as he was coaching everybody else. It's 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.800 ain't what he needed to do to be able to 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.120 make this team and make an impact in the league. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.920 And he treated everybody to say, like you said. I mean, 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.320 in this business, there's a lot of people that, oh, yeah, 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.000 it'll smile in your face, but then you know when 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:15.920 you turn your back and say something about you. John 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.640 Gruten exactly saw the words and everything said about John Gruten. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.000 When he left. Chris Simms said, you know, John sat 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:23.840 around here, was shaking my hand. Then I heard him 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.280 through the walls at one Buck plays him just sitting 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.800 around here talking trash about you know. Five minutes later, 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.840 that's the kind of guy. He was ingenuous, but not 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.120 Gary Brown. Man. Gary Brown was a good brother. And 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.520 so when you see the tweets and you see the 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.280 remembrances of him, folks, it's real. It is. And I 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.560 just wanted to start to show today to just say, Man, 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:47.360 I appreciated him. And as I covered football through the years, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.080 there are people that you start and you realize, Man, 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.480 that was a good dude. Rich Besochi, who you knew 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.320 was Rich Besichi was that was you know, just like 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.440 GB Man, it's a good brother, right, dud, Dude, there's 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:03.839 not that. Man. A lot of people think, you know, 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.600 the coaches in the NFL, they't they're here, they must 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.120 be great. Not all of them are great, man. Likely 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.400 like there's just a specific few. The handful of guys 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:12.840 that I've been around it I could be like, Man, 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:14.599 like you said, that's either a good brother, that's a 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.560 solid dude. He got your back through, thicking through. Those 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.200 are two of them guys right there, Man, one of 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.320 the most. And you tell me, this is just my feeling. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.280 You played the game, and you've been in two organizations, 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.280 the Cowboys and you've been with the Jaguars, you've got play, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.840 your friends have been with others. The word family gets 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.039 used a lot, and I feel like it's almost propaganda 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.039 the way he gets used family and brotherhood. You come on, 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.880 we're family until unless you as long as you're doing 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.640 what I need and you're giving me what I want, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.960 were family. But then you know, I remember one coach 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:43.640 who was here that if you got hurt, this coach 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.840 wouldn't even look at you players allay man, dude, what 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.680 you look at me? It's wow? Would look at me 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.680 because I was injured. He felt like he couldn't help me, 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.200 so he was You weren't worthy of a hello from 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.640 this coach. You ain't lying. That's every time I did 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.880 nice or my achilles. And there were times when you 0:06:58.080 --> 0:06:59.960 go into the you would go into the meeting room, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.440 they wouldn't even acknowledge that you walked in, like it 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.480 was just just they take a seat the back, like hey, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.000 what's up? You know? But it's wild. It's wild. They 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:11.840 look how they did at Bobby Wagner in Seattle. He 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.720 had to find out he was cut through social media. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.920 The man played, however, been he looked behind eight ten years. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.760 They're all pro, mister Seahawk and that's how he had 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.560 to find out. I mean so, and this is just 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:31.080 my interpretation of this. Pete Carroll and John Schneider, the 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.960 general manager. These these gentlemen good at their jobs and 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:39.520 have gotten raises and have been celebrated for their success 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.640 throughout the league. If you don't have a Bobby Wagner 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:47.400 doesn't work. It doesn't work without him. And that's what 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.080 I find pretty amazing when these types of things happens, 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.560 and how you treat the very people who got you 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:57.600 what you want help build it up. That's it's amazing. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.080 How folks will do you man. I look at coach 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.520 k Duke and the administrative administration. Duke wanted to hire 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.960 Tommy America to replace Showski. Shashevski blocked it. He didn't 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.200 want that. He wanted John Shire to take over. And 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.280 I go back. I was living in North Carolina when 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.000 Mike Shashevski and Duke were the fourth best program in 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.000 the state and they had a group of boosters called 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.760 the Iron Dukes who wanted to run him out. They 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.920 got beat like forty or fifteen in the ACC tournament 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.920 one time by Ralph Sampson and Virginia. They wanted this 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.640 guy goal because he gets there nineteen eighty. Nineteen eighty one, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:31.160 North Carolina loses a national championship to Indiana. Nineteen eighty two, 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.319 Michael Jordan hits the shot and James Worthy's MVP in 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.840 Carolina wins a national championship. Nineteen eighty three, Jimmy Valvano 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.800 a NC State win the national championship on that Lorenzo 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.360 Charles dunk. They look at Mike Shafski like, man, you're 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:44.920 not even good. In a matter of fact, the time 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.280 wake forces around there making NCAA tournam like you're the 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.880 fourth best programs. This guy's bad. Get him out of here, 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.760 That's what they wanted. He hung on. He had Johnny 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.120 dark As, he had Jake Billis, he had Mark Allery, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.400 David Henderson, and his point guard. The point guard he 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.560 got to run the show was tomm Anna. They go 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.960 to They go to the national championship game in nineteen 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.000 eighty six here in Dallas and Old Reunion Arena. They 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.559 lose to Louisville. But then eventually he goes on a 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.720 run where seven final fours in row wins the national championship. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.760 In ninety nineteen ninety two, and Tommy's also on his 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.560 staff as an assistant. Tommy helped build what he had 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.200 and this is how he did Tommy Americer. Ma, Nah, Man, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.560 you don't get it. John Shar gets John shar never 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.319 been a head coach. Never see how they do it, man. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.800 And so I say, man, you these folks talk about 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.280 family so many times in sports. These coaches talk about family, 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.240 and rarely many of them mean it. Gary Brown treated 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.760 people like family, like I said, no matter who you were, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.360 no matter who you were, he would come in there 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.760 and he took it out of his time to come down. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.480 They might have coaches meetings and you know, three full minutes. 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.520 He made sure he came down to that lunch room 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.439 each and every practice to chop it up. Whether it 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.320 be ten minutes, whether it be three minutes, he would 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:55.760 come and chop it up. It didn't even have to 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.959 be about football, Like he rarely talked about football. Mot 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.559 of the time. It was lie topics going out there 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.000 in the world today. I mean, he really would would 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.480 sit down and make sure he had a a really 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.439 good conversation, a solid, genuine conversation with guys out there. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.320 And you know, I thank him for that for sure. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.240 And he had the running back to his house. He had, 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.360 he had, he had different things at his house, and 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.400 so they knew his family and you were talking about 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.400 making it a a brotherhood and the family. That's what that's 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.960 what a lot of these coaches don't do that. He 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.680 brought them to his house to make sure this is 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.640 this is my family. I want y'all to introduce yourselves 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.120 because y'all can be a part of his big family 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.920 as well. I've been a geared house one time, not really, 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:37.920 and that was a part of some love all this 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.560 captains meetings. I gotta get up in there, but I'll 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.679 tell you what, man, it's g was a hell of 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.400 a dude. And that's the STI once again, that's the 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.360 sad parts. You're shitting around here. You're thinking about, how 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.800 does a good guy like that leave us? So sis 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.719 and and that's the part that's that's tough man. And So, 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:59.120 by the way, he was over at Wisconsin, so Wisconsin 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.840 football man, and he was a running backs coach there 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.040 this this past season. And I'm just checking Twitter right 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.920 here and just was he there with with Taylor? No, No, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.040 he was. It was just this just this year. And 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.360 this is from coach Paul Chris. He says Gary was 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.840 a tremendous person, tremendous coach, and the joy to be around. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:18.959 He had great energy and a passion for life that 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.600 showed every day. That's just what we've said. What we've 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.800 just said, this is what I mean. And and I've 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.000 followed me on Twitter at newiscructs. It's n E w 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:33.600 Y Scruggs. I'm gonna tweet this clipper. You just see 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.600 Gary right here with these running backs, and my gosh, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.600 she's so skinny. That's what when I first I saw 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.920 that picture earlier today and I was like, he's so skinny, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.839 But just the way he went about his business and 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.600 his job and you just I mean, and the smile 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.120 you just see on his face. Man, gb Man, I 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.199 know you're looking up and uh just know that that 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:59.959 we those of us who had the interactions. Yeah, we're blessed. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.760 Yes we were man Yes to be here with with 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:08.320 gb um fifty two gone too soon and another story 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.319 of the weekend and I and this, unfortunately, this is 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.120 kind of the theme of our shoulders started to hear 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.160 the passing of Dwayne haskins Man. You talk about fifty 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.120 talk about twenty four, twenty four year old quarterback with 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:24.000 the Pittsburgh Steelers, and he was drafted by the Washington 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.680 football team and that now the Commanders. And to see 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.640 the he got hit by a truck on a highway 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:35.920 in Florida. He was out there training and you know, man, 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.959 he's just it's it's awful. Yea. Not only was he 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.880 twenty four, but he had a family. He had a 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:47.240 wife and a kid and man and despite some some 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.959 negative things that were said about him, I will remember 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:55.959 two things distinctly about Dwayne Haskins. One guy was a 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.679 heck of a player at Ohio State in a place 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.760 that has had a lot of good players. I worked 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.480 up in I worked up in Ohio, I worked in Cleveland, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.240 so I have an understanding of what Ohio State football 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.360 means in that state and what it means to be 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.240 one of the best to ever do it there. Dwayne 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.360 Haskins as a quarterback was a record setting quarterback at 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.640 the Ohio State touchdown folks. What he did there was 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:25.480 you know now, so so I give you that this 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.640 is something that we don't talk about enough of. Okay, 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.880 how good was Dwayne Haskins in Ohio State. He was 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.320 so good Joe Burrow had to transfer. This is true. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.960 This is true. Joe Burrow was on that roster. Joe 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.560 Burrow was he Yes, he beat out Joe Burrow. Urban 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.880 Meyer gave the job to Haskins. He beat out Joe Burrow. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.199 Burrow ends up transferring to LSU, becomes a highs and 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.000 Trophy winner, wins a national championship, and becomes the first 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.240 overall pick in the draft. But that was how good 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.280 Dwayne Haskins was at Ohio State that he pushed that 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.200 guy down. Yea, we see, it's like a guy Joe 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.480 Burrows right now, you play college football, you know, man, dude, 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.719 just to say, I mean, Haskins went out there and 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.200 had one of the historically great years in college football. 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:07.520 I then he led him to the nat in the Natty, 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:12.240 right they didn't That was Corde I mean Cardell Jones 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.199 when they played here. But just his he was a 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:19.760 fantastic football. He was a guy, was a baller. So um, 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.480 they ended up winning the Big Ten and they couldn't 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.120 couldn't get it done in those uh in the PLAYO 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.560 don't play. But but just the guy was a help play. Yeah, 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.080 he was man, you can never take that away from 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.000 him and the hell of a player at Ohio State, 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.600 and um, you know, no need for us to dive 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.240 into what he did professionally. I prefer to think about 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:45.360 the positives for that young man. And you hope his 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.920 family can try and do what they can to process 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.000 this because, honestly, but I don't know how you don't either. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.520 I mean, parents should never have to bury their children. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.640 And I mean that's twenty four years old. He had 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.320 a fan, Emily wife. I mean I couldn't even imagine 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:04.840 what I was doing at twenty four. I mean, this 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.640 is this man, the Chase Claypool social media video, and 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.760 I mean I couldn't get through. I mean maybe he 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.200 shout a tear out that. I mean, that is just 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.760 man to see your friend like that. And then man, man, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.680 it was said if you have not seen the Chase 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.960 Claypool video, if you if you look it up on Twitter, 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.680 it is it will show you what he meant. Yeah, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:32.200 and and what teammates are, Barry, you understand what teammates 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.200 are and what they mean to you. And guys who 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.440 you go to war with, you go, you go to 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.440 war with those guys each and every Sunday. And it's 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.760 not even just the Sundays. You're battling, you know, off 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.640 season training camp, you got OTAs you gotta beat. You're 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.080 you're with these dudes going through the same process, the 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.720 grueling process of football. I mean training camp used to 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.200 have two of days back in the day. I mean, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.520 you're with these guys almost twenty four seven, battling for 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.560 the same type of goals, to reach the same type 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.240 of goals. So you become that brotherhood. You get real 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.200 close with these guys almost like a family, almost like 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.040 a blood family out there. So I can understand what 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.920 was going through Chase clay Pools. You know, just emotions 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.080 as that video was processed. I mean it was just 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.040 to see your brother down like that and just I 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.800 mean in his last moments. I mean, that's that's that's 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.280 emotional right there, man, without a doubt. So for the 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:30.800 Steelers as they try to move forward, I feel for 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.800 that organization because that has to be processed. Man. Yeah, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.120 that's where we you know, we're we all get to 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:41.200 turn the page. They don't. That's there. There's a locker 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.280 to be cleaned out, there's a there's a there's a 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:48.040 brother who's not coming back to the room, and for 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.440 for for those folks, and as you know, there's a 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.840 son who's not coming on dad. All those things that 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:57.280 are there, man Um, I feel for them. I feel 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.320 for him. And so I go back to what my 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:03.760 very good friend Delator McNeil, international speaker, he said, and 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.720 he said it on stage many time. He says, don't 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.440 tell me. You can be here today, gone tomorrow. He says, 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:13.040 you can be here today and gone today. 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He got three days of of of 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:38.000 stuff and uh we're gonna five K run, you gonna 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.719 k n gonna run before the draft, and we got 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.960 drink specials after, So go on to earn your beer 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.159 Arnt Margarita. The man knows how to get out here 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.800 and promote it does he is very church up doing 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.160 Scruggs the players slash Danny McCrae with day off Jazz 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.119 handling things for Uss. Chris Bean is taking care of 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.280 missus Bean back home. Our best way. It's just to 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:05.639 her in a speedy recovery. Here from the show, a 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.320 lot of draft stuff. I'm seeing. People are talking wide receiver, 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:14.600 people talking about offensive line, and I'm not married to 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:19.040 anything right now. Okay, what does that mean, bad big man? Yeah, 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.080 because I want to do what I want to do. 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:25.439 The Pittsburgh Steelers approach. The Pittsburgh Steelers rarely trade up 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:27.800 or down. They stay where they are. They take the best, 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:31.239 best availability because they're just you know, along the way, 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:32.840 what do we know it is going to happen. They're 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.760 gonna be some guys that like, who are you drafting 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:40.040 that guy? Here? For instance, the Raiders got pick up 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:44.520 all the receivers they want. We want Henry Ruggs had 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.040 Jerry Judy out there, Jerry Judy better player than him 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:51.960 at Alabama, CD LAB but they you know, justin Jefferson 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.959 out here, so so they not we want that guy. Okay, 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.480 And so here where the Cowboys just sitting around, all right, 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:01.480 We're just gonna like this thing unfold. So then Jerry 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.840 Judy comes off the board. I mean, here's CD LAMB 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.520 just sitting here looking at your seventeen. They were going 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.800 most likely Trevon Diggs where you and I talked about 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.800 the guy man take Diggs here's seat. No, we just 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.080 go sit up here and we'll just take CD Lamb 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.879 right in front of them. The uh, the Falcons were 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:22.240 dead Quinns. Last year they took a J. Terrell out 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:26.160 of Clemson who's turned out to be really good, good 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.800 football play. And so the Cowboys take CD Lamb. What 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.120 do they do, like stick, just keep all waiting who 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:35.000 falls to you in the second round? Yeah, we thought 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.200 was gonna be a for sure first round play. Okay, 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:39.959 so you're sitting around here with two blue chip players 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.480 turn out to be great. So at twenty four, where 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.760 everybody's trying to say slidest person, you know what, man 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.679 to sit there, because if the best defensive lineman is there, 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:50.280 then you can take the best defensive line. It's the 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.639 best officer. I mean, you've got options. You've got options. 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.000 Will say to sit there at twenty four and take 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:57.080 a good football player. And this is true, but I 0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.000 will say this in this trap that there's gonna be 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.439 some position where they got hit. They gott a hit 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:03.680 because I like we talked about earlier, this offensive line 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.080 is aging some holes here in here that we need fixed. 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:07.760 So they're gonna have to hit on one of these 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.720 pacific positions. I think, like you said, it's got to 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:11.639 be somewhere in the trenches, either the D line or 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.640 the offensive line. They've got a hit. Now. I don't 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:16.720 think you know, a ton of cats are gonna go 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.439 off early in the boards. I think they'll have their 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:22.000 choices of you know, hopefully hopefully those couple centers, the 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.359 one from Iowa and I forget the other one out there, 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.359 so hopefully they'll have the choice of those two guys, 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:27.879 and maybe they'll hit on one of those. But I 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.760 think they have got to address the trenches in this 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.400 draft early early as possible, because we saw what happened 0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.480 in the playoffs. They got bullied and beat up in 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.280 the trenches. Well, and I look at the Thursday Friday, 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:40.879 those are your first your first three rounds, Round one 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.120 on Thursday, round two, three Friday. I believe they'll you'll 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.159 get there. But at twenty four and Ozzie knew some 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:49.520 it was a Hall of fame tied in with the 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.080 Cleveland Browns. But I challenge you that this was also 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.240 a Hall of Fame general manager for the Bravest. He 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.840 brought some talent in. He did never missed, man, he 0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:01.639 hard hard. He missed our receivers for some reason. He couldn't. 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:07.560 He couldn't. But everywhere else you're really really good. It's 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.760 really really good. So so just stay right there and 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.440 go get yourself as draft pick who is going to 0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.400 be a solid, contributed starter for you for the next 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.400 four or five years. The minimum got so, so that's 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.080 how I see this thing. People want to, oh, we 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.639 need the receiver, do you. I don't think you need 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:26.960 him as much. I don't think the skill position I 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.680 think you can address later on in a dress so 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:34.680 you can shake a tree. There's an oh man to 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.680 my speed and just production. I mean, there's plethora of 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:39.919 receivers out there, so I think you can definitely get 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.000 into that in the later round, maybe third, four, fifth 0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.920 type selections. And as far as the defensive skill players, 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.440 I got, you got, you got corners. You still have 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.320 guys that are that were draft picks last year that 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.119 are still trying to develop them to crack the lineup. 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.560 So you you you're deep at corner safety, may need 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:56.400 a little bit of touch up on. We already talked 0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.520 about the defensive line. So I think on both sides 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.760 of the football, your skill position, you can reach it 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.000 later in the later in the draft for those. So 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:04.760 it comes down to the trenches in the first couple 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:06.879 of rounds, and I think we have plethora of of 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:08.600 guys in there that we can go ahead and grab 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:14.200 and make this team better. I am looking at the 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.560 wide receiver position and I see so many people that 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.520 want to, you know, just just put the Cowboys or 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.359 a receiver that's sexy position. That's what it is, and 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.000 it's fantasy football, That's what it is. You look at 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.000 fantasy football exactly what it is. And I go back 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.680 and just say, Okay, who's the last receiver you just 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:34.320 signed a contract, big deal. Second second round pick. Yeah, 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:38.800 second round pick. And before him, Tyreek Kill was fifth 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:47.160 round pick, issue right right? Okay, before that Adams second 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:50.119 round pick. So this premise that you have to have 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.639 these guys in the first round hit to be receiverty 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:56.240 no not at all, Super Bowl MVP and a Triple 0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.359 Crown receiver. He was a triple receiver or receiving yours 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.800 TD these receptions he won all three last years. Not 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.359 a first round pack small school guy too. Yeah. So 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.680 so I'm looking at this thing from a receiver standpoint. 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.840 For these fans that are doing these smart drafts right now, 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:12.840 you don't really have to know what you have to do. 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.320 And this is where it barry you understand is haven't 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.840 played the safety. It becomes about how does this guy 0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.639 fit within our scheme exactly? How does he fit with 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.320 what you're trying to do, How does he play off 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.520 a CD Lamb? How does he work with the Dak Prescott? 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.880 And so not everybody's going to fit in that fashion. Nope, 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:29.560 can't do it. Because if you look at our skill 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.560 position on the offensive side, you got you you're tight 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.320 end who he might not be a dynamic guy, but 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.000 he's a solid, solid pass catcher out there. You got 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.719 Cede Lamb, who he can be that move around guy. 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.479 He could play in a slide, he could play outside, 0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:42.080 he can be your gimmick guy. He could be your 0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.479 all around wide receiver. And then you have Gallup who, 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.600 hopefully you know when he comes back from injury maybe 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.160 two three games into the season, he's your bona fide 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.040 outside receiver. So you got to figure out a way 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.720 to get that. I think that slot type receiver that 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.800 can work in between those those numbers and those hashes 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.680 and can get you some of these cool quarterback friendly 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:02.720 kind of like a Beasley situation. And I feel like 0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.399 you can find a plethora of those in this draft. 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.400 You don't have to go early to find a guy 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.520 like that. You can address those trenches with our skill position. 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.520 We can found a receiver later on in the draft. 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.199 I promise you he'll be just as productive as if 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.120 we found a guy in a version second. And there's 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.160 some talented receivers in this draft that they're really extremely talented. 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.280 But I will tell you this, and I've done this 0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.320 before pass drafts. I haven't done it yet, Peter, but 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.920 go back to where you see five or six receivers 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:29.399 go in the first round, and then look at the 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.560 number of those receivers. Of the five or six guys 0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.480 who actually work out, it's a low number, very low. 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.840 You got maybe one or two. It's a low number. 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:41.280 You're gambling very high. You probably and I have to 0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.520 run the analytics and statistics on it, but it's probably 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.679 closer to a standard deviation of getting a better interior 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:53.480 player be offense or defense that works out for you 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.000 in the earlier round than a receiver. It's just tough 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.200 because going back to the variables quarterback system, there's just 0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.080 different things. Man to go into that thing as a 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.520 whole and that receiver. It's not just you know, this 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.000 is who I gotta block. I gotta lineup and I 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.160 gotta block this guy. You gotta read defenses. They're in zone, 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.199 they're in man. Then if they're in zone, that makes 0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:11.920 your route do this. If they're a man, you gotta 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:13.359 do this with your route. So it's a lots of 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.119 big time learning curve from college to NFL. You know, 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.000 now the days are getting these receivers and these air 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.679 raid offenses where they just line up and hike the ball. 0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:22.640 You gotta run a specific route now when you get 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.919 to the National Football League. I mean there's a lot 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.159 to understand with running routes and what to do at 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:28.720 the top of your route to get a defensive back 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.920 off of you. I mean, it's reading defenses. There's a 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.960 lot that go into it. So I think it's harder, 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:34.960 like you said, to come in as a skill position 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.200 as a receiver and get quality snaps versus an interior guy, 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.040 like an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman, where they 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.360 got one specific job either block this dude or beat 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.280 that dude on the block. And the missing on a 0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.479 wide receiver just does so much damage. You just look 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.800 at Philadelphia and what's happened with Jail. They had to 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:50.280 go spend the number on a number one pick the 0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.080 next year on a receiver for a while, two of them, 0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.880 all right, So instead of you getting Jefferson, you took Raker. 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.440 So now you gotta go spend another pit. You gotta 0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.440 move up in the draft, give a third to go 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.400 get a receiver. And that's that's where you said you 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.479 miss on that thing. Man. Oh it can. It can 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.920 hurt you. It can roll down hill quickly, right it can. 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.320 It can. It can be hard on you. Man. So 0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.440 that's why I'm like, man, if I'm an miss I'm 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.880 missing somebody on the inside here, because, like you said, 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.120 you got skill, You got guys out there that can 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.680 get the job done. To me, we just gotta show 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:22.960 up that offensive line. So let me take this in 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:27.400 a Mike McCarthy Terry Church. So many times when a 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:31.080 player is either in the last year of a deal 0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.400 or a player seems to understand, Hey, I've got this contract, 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.880 but we know it becomes a what have you done 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.720 for me lately? Are you living up to your version 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.120 of the contract. Sometimes guys give you some really good 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.400 performances under that pressure. You know, pressure, what you know, 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.080 you squeeze orange, what you get? You get orange juice, 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.280 you get what's inside. Pressure makes diamonds. What if Mike 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:58.560 McCarthy gives you something this year that's really because he 0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:00.640 has to know you. Come on, baby, you read the 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.640 t league. Oh, he sees it. They might not be 0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.840 saying it to your face, but you can see what's 0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.880 going on out here, right. You see the landscape. So 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.200 you do have control over this right now? Yeah, you 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.160 know this is Sean Paynton been higher yet. You know 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.320 Dan Quinny got the job yet, So you still have 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.680 an opportunity to turn this thing. You're away. They call 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.560 it a proven year, right, You see it all the 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.560 time with players. They take those one year, prove it 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.760 years and we'll see what happens there. Joe Flacco Baltimore, 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.479 maybe a couple of years ago, he had one year 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.880 left on his rookie deal, goes out there, wins the 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:34.040 Super Bowl Spore deal. He said, Nah, that ain't it. 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:35.959 I think I'm an elite quarterback. We're out there one 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.160 Super Bowls and one Super Bowl MVP and a quarterback. 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:39.959 Because I also think of it this way, if you're 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:45.120 Mike McCarthy, Yeah, clearly he doesn't feel that that he's done. 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.360 He feels like he's got more years coaching. Yeah. So 0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.880 so let's say you have another year where you win 0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.760 the division and maybe they make a change. But if 0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:57.840 you've won the division, you've had two years in a 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.360 row where you've got you're you're somebody else out there 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.240 is going to see you right right, So there's a 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.240 lot here. That's the one I thought about. Man, there's 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.360 a lot for Mike here, there is a lot. And 0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.200 if I'm Mike, and if I'm if this is this 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.080 is my one year proved, pressure makes diamonds. I can't 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.960 bust on this situation. I'm calling plays, I'm going down. 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.560 If I'm going down, I'm going down swinging. I can't 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.720 go down for somebody else calling to run when I 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.200 wanted it to be a pass or vice versa. If 0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:26.120 this is if the if I'm pushing all my chips 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.560 in the middle for this one season. I gotta be 0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.200 the guy making these calls. Now, I'll come back and 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.280 hit you. Because he talked a little bit about it. 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.400 He had said, Hey, when you're calling plays, there's just 0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.400 so much of you that's not involved in the rest 0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.880 of the team. And he wants to be involved in 0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.880 the rest of the team. Being involved in the rest 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.240 of the team. I mean, are you sprinkle here and there, 0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.280 But at the end of the day, you're not really 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.880 putting your suggestion out there. You're just helping everybody else 0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:51.800 out Like, and you're the head guy. I'm like Mac, 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.280 I gotta put all my chips on the on the 0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.400 side of the ball that they brought me here to 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.240 do to do things with, and that's the offensive side 0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.080 of the football. And if I'm him, you know, like 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.280 you got dan Quinn over there, Hey, this is your 0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.600 defense right now. I understand that you might be next 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.360 in line to get this job if I fail, But 0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:09.680 this is your defense. You got to go out there 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.280 and make it do what it do. I'm gonna handle 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:12.760 this officer side of the ball and do what I 0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.840 do best. And I supposedly called players because I was 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:16.280 in the lab. I was in the lab while I 0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.520 was out. So hopefully he can come back here. But 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.160 like you said, no, this is gonna be an extremely 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.000 pressure field year for him, and you know, hopefully he's 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:25.920 able to come in there and meet the table and 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.280 hopefully's able to rise to the occasion, because like you said, 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.240 if he doesn't and he has a mediocre year, I 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.400 can see him out of here. I can see it. 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.800 I think we're gonna get a real He's you know, 0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:44.840 he's from Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. He'll he'll have the chip he 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.479 got him. He may have an Orlando Scandrick size chip 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:54.400 now that Scandrick size chip coming into this year. How 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.720 can you not feel disrespected if you're like, oh, you 0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.239 gotta feel extremely I mean, you got guys over here 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.880 talking about didn't understand all. Yeah, so I'm paid. I mean, 0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.680 he's a hell of the coach. Now I'm still here. 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.760 I'm still coaching. I just I might not have done 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:09.520 a long run in the playoffs, but I got this 0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.360 team to the playoffs. We turned it all the way around. 0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:14.440 For when I first arrived here and you over here 0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.920 talking about Sean Payton, dan Quinn, I mean, he had 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.720 a lot of suitors out there I'm the head coach. 0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.480 Like it's got to he's got to feel some sort 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.920 of disrespect from this whole this whole translation the rich 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.360 Eisen interview he gave it. I mean, really the interview. 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.360 I need to see Mike McCarthy on to really give 0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:34.280 us the whole thing. And he need to go to 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:39.000 the red table. You need to go to Jayden entanglement. 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.360 You want the tea spill, go to the red That's 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.760 where he needs to get on next Jaya. I don't 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:53.000 know if you do football coaches, but please please bring 0:33:53.160 --> 0:34:00.320 Mike mc you get all the tea that I mean, really, man, 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.200 that's where he needed to be. He need to be on. 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.160 He needs to be on a little get everything all 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.560 the back behind the scenes and what's going on, how 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:10.200 he really thinks about painting and everything. It's gonna it's 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.040 gonna come out, come on that red table, is what 0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.359 Jerry had to say in It's a radio show. I mean, 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:18.120 I'm telling you then you got I mean who we're 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.280 telling man, red table talking and Jada and Mike McCarthy. 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:25.719 It means entanglements and every types of it. Yes, it 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.279 would be very very good, but like you said, it's 0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.640 gonna be extremely because I mean, what type of work 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:34.680 conditions are that knowing you know your replacement right, you know, 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.080 he might be right next to you in the in 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.160 the coaches meetings. You got Sean Payton looming over your head. 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.759 And if he gets on TV eventually, who knows, he 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.719 might go talk and cowboys are struggling over there, you know. 0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.040 But McCarthy, he doesn't really you know, I don't know. 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.440 So it's just a whole bunch of pressure just mounted 0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.400 on top of his shoulders. And like you said, hopefully 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.520 he can rise to the occasion. Hey, look, if it's 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.400 one thing we've seen over you know, talk about tea 0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:01.279 being spilt, um, it's a shot. Peyton is a wanted guy. 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.800 Steven Ross was ready to go ahead and bring in 0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.799 Tom Brady and hire Sean Payton and give up assets 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:09.960 to the Saints. And so look, you're gonna have to 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.480 give up assets to get him because there's a contract. 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.640 So if Stephen Ross's sitting up here ready to do 0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.600 it until flora Is hit him with the lawsuit, there's 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.520 gonna be more people looking for Sean Payton. So even 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.360 though he retired, they still got to like pay that contract. 0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:26.480 If they want him to come back, Well, they own 0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.759 the rights. Oh okay, I didn't know that, man. They 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:31.719 own the right. So when Brett Farve tried to come 0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.640 back that he wanted to sign Minnesota, be like, no, 0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.080 we got your rights. We're not trade. We're not going 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.280 to trade you to Minnesota State sent into the Jets. 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:41.440 You're not even be an NFC. He was sending you 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.040 over here. Even if you were to half have you retired, 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:49.160 it was just slating. Nope, Ron came back Tampa. Tampa 0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.040 had to trade to make a trade in the wing. Ye, 0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:56.480 so so they got the rights. Otherwise you imagine how 0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.839 many people we retired from the NF come right back. 0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.600 I'm dudes, do you play Jacksonville? You wouldn't retire. I'm out. 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.080 That's what we're doing. I'm out conflince here, I'm out 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:12.200 later back right. Do you know how raggedy the league? 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:18.319 That's all you had to do, castle Tom Brady forty days. 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.640 I'm back. I'm back, popping up over here somewhere. You know, 0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.640 they have to have those contracts and play. Brother, you 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.520 have agents and teams if you retire will come get you. 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.400 That's all you gotta do. Just get up out of here. 0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.800 Deshaun Watson would have been retired. How long that is? 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:40.160 That is true? A lot of castle Baker Mayfield retired 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.239 right about there, A whole lot of folks. Then a 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.840 whole lot of folk. Bank are gonna game somewhere. No, 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.839 it's gonna be back. Okay, Okay, here's what's gonna happen. 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Man, 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.000 ain't gonna that mean I ain't gonna just bat your 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:26.360 eye had right, So eighteen million dollars and we know 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.279 the Browns can't pay you eighteen million dollars this year. 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:33.919 May so they're in lies the whole rub of things, man. 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.040 And this is what's so frustrating when I hear about 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:40.960 DeVante Parker gets traded to New England for five, I 0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.200 mean four three? And why did you get a Cooper 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.000 for five? Even in my man Clarence Hill Dog team 0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.840 put that out there. I'm like, folks, because it's about deadlines. 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.440 So I've been I've been studying this in my negotiation TCU. 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.840 So once everybody in the league knew there was a 0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.360 deadline that you had to meet or Cooper was getting 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.239 twenty million dollars, you lost the leverage. I want a 0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:07.200 three man, you got three days you could take this file, right, 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.400 you got you got three days, or you gonna had 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.320 to pay this dude a whole twenty meal. So you 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:12.960 bet to take this five. I got this five for you. 0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:14.200 What you're gonna do with it? What you write, what 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.200 you're gonna do, and nobody else will do it because 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.719 everybody knew, hey man, you gotta pay this guy if 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:22.680 you don't millions, right, and you don't want to pay 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.920 the twenty million, So they're in lies. The ability to 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.440 make the deal happen. People gotta understand the battner your 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.360 best alternative to a negotiate it out agreem and no 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.200 siate degree, which means what's your bottom line? What is 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.319 your what is the thing you're most interested in. If 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:41.040 you're the Cowboys, getting Cooper's twenty million off your kick 0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.279 it off the books. That is the most important thing 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.839 to you, not getting a three, not getting a two. 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.480 It's we don't want to pay twenty million dollars because 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.160 it's guarantee. Because if we pay this dude twenty million dollars, 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.560 we can't keep other people. So we've got to get money. 0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.320 Everybody else knows this, man, It ain't They ain't the 0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.440 only ones that new that. Everybody knows this. So when 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.279 I when I see different media folks coming out there, 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.160 we Cooper only got for five because of the leverage 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.200 man that Stephen Jones has always said this to the 0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:11.080 deadlines to make deals. That's true, because everybody knew you 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.320 had to sit around here pay him twenty million and 0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.279 didn't want because you just said you didn't want to 0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.080 do it. Is everything. Dude, you didn't advertise somebody you 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.040 don't want to do it. Should have captaining. But that's 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:23.520 another story for another situation. But so that's the issue there. 0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.040 Now you go back to Baker Mayfield, everybody in the 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:29.080 league knows you can't pay him eighteen million dollars what's 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.040 his deadline for what's the what's the deadline for that 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.400 bottom line you want to get you what you want 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.000 to do by June first is get the cut so 0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:36.600 you can split it up into you know, write it 0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:39.680 off over two years, over two years to that lump summit. Yeah, right, 0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:41.600 so we know you don't want you're not trying to 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.919 pay Baker Mayfield eighteen million dollars and paid the Shot 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.719 Watson back up and you signed a backup quarterback, Jakobe Brissette. Yeah, 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.880 so how many quarterbacks you're trying to pay doesn't be 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.200 the whole Yeah, no, nothing for nobody else. So why 0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.520 are you trading for Baker Mayfield? Anybody don't do that? Now, 0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.200 the Washington Commanders would have been wiser to trade for 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.080 him than that old mess they got in all they 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.400 gave up a Carson Wentz. But hey, it's the command 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:05.680 they gonna it's what they gonna find a way to 0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.560 mess things up. That's what they wandering in the desert 0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:11.399 when it comes to a quarter for bad for Roma. 0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.239 But you know that's what it is. You signed up 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.960 for it. He signed up for the deal. At some 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:20.680 point I say no, say no, Ron, tell him no, 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.719 the a just wonder back man, Like I said, man 0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.600 Z Patrick, you you all did that. You all did 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.480 that to yourself. This is true. So people knowing that 0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.520 Baker Mayfield's gonna come free, why am I gonna pay game? 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.759 I give him premium for it? And why do I 0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.320 want to give a pick for a guy who I 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.480 don't know if he's that good? I see the average 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:43.600 quarterback okay, and I want to pay. I want to 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.839 give up picks for you versus Hey man, you want 0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:50.319 a spot, come on down here, battle for one. If 0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.640 you're Pete Carroll, Hey man, I'm on a pick I take. 0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:57.160 I'd take him over Drew Lock over the seattle. So like, 0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.279 hey man, you know I played with short dudes before. 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.120 Woman Little Doe was like, you want to get you 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.160 some or not, but I ain't given. I ain't paying 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.960 him eighteen. Well no, you're not paying eighteen, not without incentives. 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:11.920 Hey man, here's here's ten playoffs, here's ten and then 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.920 we'll incentivise you right for us again, the negotiations where 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:20.600 you sit around here that I'm learning so much. That's 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.000 what you do. Man, if you play X and that 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.239 ont of games, you get this bonus you, you know. 0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:26.719 I mean, there's a whole bunch of things you can 0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.080 put into the contract to incentivize him to get him 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.520 back to the eighteen millions. But also if you're him, 0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.880 hey man, Seattle has been a winning program with a 0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.680 good head coach who's won with quarterbacks of your stature. 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.200 So for Baker Mayfield, that could be a very positive results. 0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:41.799 And if I'm set, I would feel very good if 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:43.160 he got out of the open market. I can make 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.520 a deal for Baker Mayfieldeah, yeah, it could be done. 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.279 So so there's there's places to go. But no, I'm 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.000 not gonna pay. I'm not gonna give up a draft pick. 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:51.880 Nor am I gonna pay eighteen million dollars for the guy. 0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.440 It doesn't you don't have to. And he's too much 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:56.279 of a presence too that that kind of hurt him 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.399 as well, just being that he always got to say something, 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.279 you know, like some some casters, you know, hey man, 0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.239 you just let kind of roll off their shoulder, and 0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:05.839 not not with this dude. He gonna he gonna say something, 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.400 which is why I go back to why Dak Prescott 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:13.279 is such a good football player and such a good 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.120 guy for this team. Yeah, if you wanted to be 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.959 a talker. A lot of people listen, will let you talk. 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:24.680 Oh yeah, mics in front of you, right right. And 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:26.480 that's why I have a lot of respect for him, 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.600 the way he handles the job. Where he goes about 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:30.359 you don't see him doing a whole lot of talking here. 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:32.440 And that was where Baker got into trouble. You did 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:36.320 way too much talking before you know. You gotta delivering 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:40.239 twelve progressive commercials before he did anything in the league, 0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:41.840 you know. And I don't have an issue with that, 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:43.359 but at some point in time, you had to back 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:48.040 up what you're doing, ye house, And when management felt like, 0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:51.160 hey man, you're immature. Do they say we want an 0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:54.640 adult that quarterback? Your wife fall up here on the 0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.880 on the ground. That's another thing. He can't try to 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.320 sit up here and basically say other people on the 0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:04.680 team need to fight with the heart he had. Then 0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:06.440 he was talking about other cats money back in the 0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:08.320 day with Duke Johnson. I said, that's the one of 0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:09.880 the biggest known knows. You can do it a lot. 0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:13.400 You had the stuff with you and Jackson. Just stuff 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.520 that done after right. The organ they don't want this, 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:20.760 they don't want this Hugh Man. Another guy who doesn't 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.520 get enough credit for how he handled himself was Eli 0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.480 Manning oh Man. Eli never gave you anything and that 0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:28.320 and that type of media I don't live it in 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.480 New York. I mean the scrutiny he was getting the 0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:33.520 two towns who bowl champ and he was still getting it, 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.160 and he never went on threels. So that's something that 0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:38.239 Baker's got to learn, and maybe Pete Carroll is the 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.080 kind of coach that'll give it to him. You're also 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.239 out there off in Seattle. It takes your minute to 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:44.880 get to Seattle. People are flocking there to Seattle. Not 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:46.640 a lot of you know, not a lot of prime time. 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:48.920 It's you know, so you don't have a whole lot 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.320 of huge media presents in terms of as they do 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.560 it in New York or Philadelphia either right here with 0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:56.160 the Cowboys, So that would be I think Baker may 0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:58.160 feel maybe helped to go to a place it's kind 0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.480 of remote market, head coach who can help him and 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.480 guide him along the way, who knows how to deal 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:05.640 with that, and a season coaches won a Super Bowl. 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.040 So maybe Baker can get something there. But you know, 0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:10.239 he's got his own issues here and and you know 0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.080 he'd be wise to chat with someone like Dak Prescott. 0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.080 How do you deal with it? Because Dak is a 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.319 model citizen of what you should be. When you got 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.560 that much scrutiny on you, you have his wife talked 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:24.799 to Tad Prescott how to tweet? How to tweet your 0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:29.920 anger and displeasure without going over the line, tiptoeing it right, 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:31.959 Just give him a little bit of give a little smoke, 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:39.880 not all the smaller a little smoke. Hey, that is uh, 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.800 that's the players, that perfect way to jazz. We appreciate 0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:47.000 you feeling it for cresh um yo church man fun. 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.840 We'll get McCree back here sooner or later. Thanks everybody 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.080 for checking out the place out back with you next Monday. 0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:56.239 I'm off to Rangers opening day. Yes, park Man, he 0:47:56.360 --> 0:48:00.200 got offense, got some cloud cover to He's good. That's 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:03.640 indoor now, that is right. You gotta worry about man, 0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:08.640 what's going on? Condition? Climate control? Man? What is glackle? 0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.759 What's out with you? Later? Buy? This has been a 0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.400 production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:16.160 Football Club.