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Speaker 1: safety with the Dallas Cowboys, or other running buddy here
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Speaker 1: to the Players Lounge very soon, out on assignment. I'm
Speaker 1: NEWI Scrugs, longtime Cowboys broadcaster here. Um, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a show band where we're gonna try and keep
Speaker 1: it together here from the standpoint of Gary Brown, former
Speaker 1: running back coach with the Cowboys, has passed away at
Speaker 1: fifty two years old. Oh yeah, GBS, just a few
Speaker 1: months older than me. It's crazy, okay. So, so GB
Speaker 1: was a guy I watched run in college and run
Speaker 1: with the Houston oilin I mean, you know, to watch
Speaker 1: him do his thing man as a running back and
Speaker 1: then become a head become a running back coach where
Speaker 1: he was the head of that running back room. Just
Speaker 1: the way he treated those guys like kids. Um Our
Speaker 1: TV station Channel five did a lot of different things
Speaker 1: with Gary. We knew him and his one daughter was
Speaker 1: in need of a transplant, so we watched him go
Speaker 1: through some family health challenges, man, and I knew he
Speaker 1: was in hospice, and when he got the news yesterday, man,
Speaker 1: it was it was just very sad because he was
Speaker 1: such a good guy. He was an amazing man. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was the type of guy who it didn't matter
Speaker 1: where you were, first round, second round, undrafted, you practice squad,
Speaker 1: no matter what it is. He treated everybody the same
Speaker 1: and when you went out there, and he had that
Speaker 1: same demeanor each and every practice, no matter what the situation.
Speaker 1: We were five and five and ten, or we were,
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen and one, he came with that same
Speaker 1: smile to practice each and every day, choking with us,
Speaker 1: keeping everything lighthearted. I mean, the guy was just an
Speaker 1: amazing man, amazing coach. And he you know, he had
Speaker 1: DeMarco when he had his best years. He had you know,
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Ellis rookie year when he was flying all over
Speaker 1: the place. I mean, the guy was a hell of
Speaker 1: a coach. But even more than that, he was a
Speaker 1: hell of a man. And there was just so many
Speaker 1: life lessons he would teach you throughout the day. Just
Speaker 1: he would just sit down at our lunch table over
Speaker 1: there after practice and he would just chopping up with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, he'd be one of the only coaches that
Speaker 1: would sit down and eat lunch with his players and
Speaker 1: he would literally sit there and just chop it up
Speaker 1: about anything, whether it's rap music, football, life in general.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was an outstanding man and he
Speaker 1: treated everybody with just he was just as a standing man.
Speaker 1: He give the shirt off his back if he could.
Speaker 1: And I mean, just these this news is, like you said,
Speaker 1: it's very saddening. And he was such a young man,
Speaker 1: just young in life general, so and he had so
Speaker 1: many trials and tribulations with family health, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just very sad, you know, hearing the
Speaker 1: news about gb passing and um, you know, condoless to
Speaker 1: his family. I know they're going through it right now,
Speaker 1: but you know, condoles is to them. And like I said,
Speaker 1: that guy was as a hell of a coach and
Speaker 1: even better. He was a hell of a man, father,
Speaker 1: you know, husband, all that good stuff. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: adults is to the family. But that was man, I
Speaker 1: was a shocker right there. You don't want to think
Speaker 1: that when you're twenty six, twenty seven years old, that's
Speaker 1: the midpoint of your life. But essentially that's what it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for Gary Brown. And whoever speak to this funeral, I
Speaker 1: hope they say two words about him, and these two
Speaker 1: words you will understand because of what they mean in
Speaker 1: our culture. Good brother out of doubt, without a doubt,
Speaker 1: good brother, solid brother, however you want to call it. Man,
Speaker 1: he was. He was all the above, and that is
Speaker 1: a that is a a term that is not giving
Speaker 1: out easily. And you don't say about many people. And
Speaker 1: when somebody speaks up for Gary, does somebody please say
Speaker 1: he was a good brother? He was when you when
Speaker 1: you you know, that's why we're sitting here now, man,
Speaker 1: with just heavy hearts talking about Gary Brat that was
Speaker 1: a good brother. He liked people in general. He would
Speaker 1: he actually gave a damn about you when he talked
Speaker 1: to you and you and I know in this business
Speaker 1: there's a lot of folks who seeing past you or
Speaker 1: what is it you can do for me? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: And he was the exact opposite. I mean, I remember
Speaker 1: when I was in Jacksonville, I'll be watching hard Knocks
Speaker 1: over here in Dallas and he was still the running
Speaker 1: backs coach. And I forget the young man's name with
Speaker 1: the goggles. I think his name was Hardy. I think
Speaker 1: his name running back Hardy or whatever was. But they
Speaker 1: had segments and hard Knocks where you know, he was
Speaker 1: talking to Zeke at them, and he was coaching Hardy
Speaker 1: just as hard as he was coaching everybody else. It's
Speaker 1: ain't what he needed to do to be able to
Speaker 1: make this team and make an impact in the league.
Speaker 1: And he treated everybody to say, like you said. I mean,
Speaker 1: in this business, there's a lot of people that, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll smile in your face, but then you know when
Speaker 1: you turn your back and say something about you. John
Speaker 1: Gruten exactly saw the words and everything said about John Gruten.
Speaker 1: When he left. Chris Simms said, you know, John sat
Speaker 1: around here, was shaking my hand. Then I heard him
Speaker 1: through the walls at one Buck plays him just sitting
Speaker 1: around here talking trash about you know. Five minutes later,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy. He was ingenuous, but not
Speaker 1: Gary Brown. Man. Gary Brown was a good brother. And
Speaker 1: so when you see the tweets and you see the
Speaker 1: remembrances of him, folks, it's real. It is. And I
Speaker 1: just wanted to start to show today to just say, Man,
Speaker 1: I appreciated him. And as I covered football through the years,
Speaker 1: there are people that you start and you realize, Man,
Speaker 1: that was a good dude. Rich Besochi, who you knew
Speaker 1: was Rich Besichi was that was you know, just like
Speaker 1: GB Man, it's a good brother, right, dud, Dude, there's
Speaker 1: not that. Man. A lot of people think, you know,
Speaker 1: the coaches in the NFL, they't they're here, they must
Speaker 1: be great. Not all of them are great, man. Likely
Speaker 1: like there's just a specific few. The handful of guys
Speaker 1: that I've been around it I could be like, Man,
Speaker 1: like you said, that's either a good brother, that's a
Speaker 1: solid dude. He got your back through, thicking through. Those
Speaker 1: are two of them guys right there, Man, one of
Speaker 1: the most. And you tell me, this is just my feeling.
Speaker 1: You played the game, and you've been in two organizations,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and you've been with the Jaguars, you've got play,
Speaker 1: your friends have been with others. The word family gets
Speaker 1: used a lot, and I feel like it's almost propaganda
Speaker 1: the way he gets used family and brotherhood. You come on,
Speaker 1: we're family until unless you as long as you're doing
Speaker 1: what I need and you're giving me what I want,
Speaker 1: were family. But then you know, I remember one coach
Speaker 1: who was here that if you got hurt, this coach
Speaker 1: wouldn't even look at you players allay man, dude, what
Speaker 1: you look at me? It's wow? Would look at me
Speaker 1: because I was injured. He felt like he couldn't help me,
Speaker 1: so he was You weren't worthy of a hello from
Speaker 1: this coach. You ain't lying. That's every time I did
Speaker 1: nice or my achilles. And there were times when you
Speaker 1: go into the you would go into the meeting room,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't even acknowledge that you walked in, like it
Speaker 1: was just just they take a seat the back, like hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? You know? But it's wild. It's wild. They
Speaker 1: look how they did at Bobby Wagner in Seattle. He
Speaker 1: had to find out he was cut through social media.
Speaker 1: The man played, however, been he looked behind eight ten years.
Speaker 1: They're all pro, mister Seahawk and that's how he had
Speaker 1: to find out. I mean so, and this is just
Speaker 1: my interpretation of this. Pete Carroll and John Schneider, the
Speaker 1: general manager. These these gentlemen good at their jobs and
Speaker 1: have gotten raises and have been celebrated for their success
Speaker 1: throughout the league. If you don't have a Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: doesn't work. It doesn't work without him. And that's what
Speaker 1: I find pretty amazing when these types of things happens,
Speaker 1: and how you treat the very people who got you
Speaker 1: what you want help build it up. That's it's amazing.
Speaker 1: How folks will do you man. I look at coach
Speaker 1: k Duke and the administrative administration. Duke wanted to hire
Speaker 1: Tommy America to replace Showski. Shashevski blocked it. He didn't
Speaker 1: want that. He wanted John Shire to take over. And
Speaker 1: I go back. I was living in North Carolina when
Speaker 1: Mike Shashevski and Duke were the fourth best program in
Speaker 1: the state and they had a group of boosters called
Speaker 1: the Iron Dukes who wanted to run him out. They
Speaker 1: got beat like forty or fifteen in the ACC tournament
Speaker 1: one time by Ralph Sampson and Virginia. They wanted this
Speaker 1: guy goal because he gets there nineteen eighty. Nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 1: North Carolina loses a national championship to Indiana. Nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan hits the shot and James Worthy's MVP in
Speaker 1: Carolina wins a national championship. Nineteen eighty three, Jimmy Valvano
Speaker 1: a NC State win the national championship on that Lorenzo
Speaker 1: Charles dunk. They look at Mike Shafski like, man, you're
Speaker 1: not even good. In a matter of fact, the time
Speaker 1: wake forces around there making NCAA tournam like you're the
Speaker 1: fourth best programs. This guy's bad. Get him out of here,
Speaker 1: That's what they wanted. He hung on. He had Johnny
Speaker 1: dark As, he had Jake Billis, he had Mark Allery,
Speaker 1: David Henderson, and his point guard. The point guard he
Speaker 1: got to run the show was tomm Anna. They go
Speaker 1: to They go to the national championship game in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six here in Dallas and Old Reunion Arena. They
Speaker 1: lose to Louisville. But then eventually he goes on a
Speaker 1: run where seven final fours in row wins the national championship.
Speaker 1: In ninety nineteen ninety two, and Tommy's also on his
Speaker 1: staff as an assistant. Tommy helped build what he had
Speaker 1: and this is how he did Tommy Americer. Ma, Nah, Man,
Speaker 1: you don't get it. John Shar gets John shar never
Speaker 1: been a head coach. Never see how they do it, man.
Speaker 1: And so I say, man, you these folks talk about
Speaker 1: family so many times in sports. These coaches talk about family,
Speaker 1: and rarely many of them mean it. Gary Brown treated
Speaker 1: people like family, like I said, no matter who you were,
Speaker 1: no matter who you were, he would come in there
Speaker 1: and he took it out of his time to come down.
Speaker 1: They might have coaches meetings and you know, three full minutes.
Speaker 1: He made sure he came down to that lunch room
Speaker 1: each and every practice to chop it up. Whether it
Speaker 1: be ten minutes, whether it be three minutes, he would
Speaker 1: come and chop it up. It didn't even have to
Speaker 1: be about football, Like he rarely talked about football. Mot
Speaker 1: of the time. It was lie topics going out there
Speaker 1: in the world today. I mean, he really would would
Speaker 1: sit down and make sure he had a a really
Speaker 1: good conversation, a solid, genuine conversation with guys out there.
Speaker 1: And you know, I thank him for that for sure.
Speaker 1: And he had the running back to his house. He had,
Speaker 1: he had, he had different things at his house, and
Speaker 1: so they knew his family and you were talking about
Speaker 1: making it a a brotherhood and the family. That's what that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of these coaches don't do that. He
Speaker 1: brought them to his house to make sure this is
Speaker 1: this is my family. I want y'all to introduce yourselves
Speaker 1: because y'all can be a part of his big family
Speaker 1: as well. I've been a geared house one time, not really,
Speaker 1: and that was a part of some love all this
Speaker 1: captains meetings. I gotta get up in there, but I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, man, it's g was a hell of
Speaker 1: a dude. And that's the STI once again, that's the
Speaker 1: sad parts. You're shitting around here. You're thinking about, how
Speaker 1: does a good guy like that leave us? So sis
Speaker 1: and and that's the part that's that's tough man. And So,
Speaker 1: by the way, he was over at Wisconsin, so Wisconsin
Speaker 1: football man, and he was a running backs coach there
Speaker 1: this this past season. And I'm just checking Twitter right
Speaker 1: here and just was he there with with Taylor? No, No,
Speaker 1: he was. It was just this just this year. And
Speaker 1: this is from coach Paul Chris. He says Gary was
Speaker 1: a tremendous person, tremendous coach, and the joy to be around.
Speaker 1: He had great energy and a passion for life that
Speaker 1: showed every day. That's just what we've said. What we've
Speaker 1: just said, this is what I mean. And and I've
Speaker 1: followed me on Twitter at newiscructs. It's n E w
Speaker 1: Y Scruggs. I'm gonna tweet this clipper. You just see
Speaker 1: Gary right here with these running backs, and my gosh,
Speaker 1: she's so skinny. That's what when I first I saw
Speaker 1: that picture earlier today and I was like, he's so skinny,
Speaker 1: But just the way he went about his business and
Speaker 1: his job and you just I mean, and the smile
Speaker 1: you just see on his face. Man, gb Man, I
Speaker 1: know you're looking up and uh just know that that
Speaker 1: we those of us who had the interactions. Yeah, we're blessed.
Speaker 1: Yes we were man Yes to be here with with
Speaker 1: gb um fifty two gone too soon and another story
Speaker 1: of the weekend and I and this, unfortunately, this is
Speaker 1: kind of the theme of our shoulders started to hear
Speaker 1: the passing of Dwayne haskins Man. You talk about fifty
Speaker 1: talk about twenty four, twenty four year old quarterback with
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and he was drafted by the Washington
Speaker 1: football team and that now the Commanders. And to see
Speaker 1: the he got hit by a truck on a highway
Speaker 1: in Florida. He was out there training and you know, man,
Speaker 1: he's just it's it's awful. Yea. Not only was he
Speaker 1: twenty four, but he had a family. He had a
Speaker 1: wife and a kid and man and despite some some
Speaker 1: negative things that were said about him, I will remember
Speaker 1: two things distinctly about Dwayne Haskins. One guy was a
Speaker 1: heck of a player at Ohio State in a place
Speaker 1: that has had a lot of good players. I worked
Speaker 1: up in I worked up in Ohio, I worked in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: so I have an understanding of what Ohio State football
Speaker 1: means in that state and what it means to be
Speaker 1: one of the best to ever do it there. Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins as a quarterback was a record setting quarterback at
Speaker 1: the Ohio State touchdown folks. What he did there was
Speaker 1: you know now, so so I give you that this
Speaker 1: is something that we don't talk about enough of. Okay,
Speaker 1: how good was Dwayne Haskins in Ohio State. He was
Speaker 1: so good Joe Burrow had to transfer. This is true.
Speaker 1: This is true. Joe Burrow was on that roster. Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow was he Yes, he beat out Joe Burrow. Urban
Speaker 1: Meyer gave the job to Haskins. He beat out Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: Burrow ends up transferring to LSU, becomes a highs and
Speaker 1: Trophy winner, wins a national championship, and becomes the first
Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft. But that was how good
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins was at Ohio State that he pushed that
Speaker 1: guy down. Yea, we see, it's like a guy Joe
Speaker 1: Burrows right now, you play college football, you know, man, dude,
Speaker 1: just to say, I mean, Haskins went out there and
Speaker 1: had one of the historically great years in college football.
Speaker 1: I then he led him to the nat in the Natty,
Speaker 1: right they didn't That was Corde I mean Cardell Jones
Speaker 1: when they played here. But just his he was a
Speaker 1: fantastic football. He was a guy, was a baller. So um,
Speaker 1: they ended up winning the Big Ten and they couldn't
Speaker 1: couldn't get it done in those uh in the PLAYO
Speaker 1: don't play. But but just the guy was a help play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was man, you can never take that away from
Speaker 1: him and the hell of a player at Ohio State,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, no need for us to dive
Speaker 1: into what he did professionally. I prefer to think about
Speaker 1: the positives for that young man. And you hope his
Speaker 1: family can try and do what they can to process
Speaker 1: this because, honestly, but I don't know how you don't either.
Speaker 1: I mean, parents should never have to bury their children.
Speaker 1: And I mean that's twenty four years old. He had
Speaker 1: a fan, Emily wife. I mean I couldn't even imagine
Speaker 1: what I was doing at twenty four. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is this man, the Chase Claypool social media video, and
Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't get through. I mean maybe he
Speaker 1: shout a tear out that. I mean, that is just
Speaker 1: man to see your friend like that. And then man, man,
Speaker 1: it was said if you have not seen the Chase
Speaker 1: Claypool video, if you if you look it up on Twitter,
Speaker 1: it is it will show you what he meant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and what teammates are, Barry, you understand what teammates
Speaker 1: are and what they mean to you. And guys who
Speaker 1: you go to war with, you go, you go to
Speaker 1: war with those guys each and every Sunday. And it's
Speaker 1: not even just the Sundays. You're battling, you know, off
Speaker 1: season training camp, you got OTAs you gotta beat. You're
Speaker 1: you're with these dudes going through the same process, the
Speaker 1: grueling process of football. I mean training camp used to
Speaker 1: have two of days back in the day. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're with these guys almost twenty four seven, battling for
Speaker 1: the same type of goals, to reach the same type
Speaker 1: of goals. So you become that brotherhood. You get real
Speaker 1: close with these guys almost like a family, almost like
Speaker 1: a blood family out there. So I can understand what
Speaker 1: was going through Chase clay Pools. You know, just emotions
Speaker 1: as that video was processed. I mean it was just
Speaker 1: to see your brother down like that and just I
Speaker 1: mean in his last moments. I mean, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: emotional right there, man, without a doubt. So for the
Speaker 1: Steelers as they try to move forward, I feel for
Speaker 1: that organization because that has to be processed. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where we you know, we're we all get to
Speaker 1: turn the page. They don't. That's there. There's a locker
Speaker 1: to be cleaned out, there's a there's a there's a
Speaker 1: brother who's not coming back to the room, and for
Speaker 1: for for those folks, and as you know, there's a
Speaker 1: son who's not coming on dad. All those things that
Speaker 1: are there, man Um, I feel for them. I feel
Speaker 1: for him. And so I go back to what my
Speaker 1: very good friend Delator McNeil, international speaker, he said, and
Speaker 1: he said it on stage many time. He says, don't
Speaker 1: tell me. You can be here today, gone tomorrow. He says,
Speaker 1: you can be here today and gone today. No, nothing's guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Nothing is guaranteed. So all right, let's hit our first
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Speaker 1: to I want to hit you with it and see
Speaker 1: maybe me because you played this game and you've understood
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Speaker 1: everybody's trying to say slidest person, you know what, man
Speaker 1: to sit there, because if the best defensive lineman is there,
Speaker 1: then you can take the best defensive line. It's the
Speaker 1: best officer. I mean, you've got options. You've got options.
Speaker 1: Will say to sit there at twenty four and take
Speaker 1: a good football player. And this is true, but I
Speaker 1: will say this in this trap that there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some position where they got hit. They gott a hit
Speaker 1: because I like we talked about earlier, this offensive line
Speaker 1: is aging some holes here in here that we need fixed.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to hit on one of these
Speaker 1: pacific positions. I think, like you said, it's got to
Speaker 1: be somewhere in the trenches, either the D line or
Speaker 1: the offensive line. They've got a hit. Now. I don't
Speaker 1: think you know, a ton of cats are gonna go
Speaker 1: off early in the boards. I think they'll have their
Speaker 1: choices of you know, hopefully hopefully those couple centers, the
Speaker 1: one from Iowa and I forget the other one out there,
Speaker 1: so hopefully they'll have the choice of those two guys,
Speaker 1: and maybe they'll hit on one of those. But I
Speaker 1: think they have got to address the trenches in this
Speaker 1: draft early early as possible, because we saw what happened
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They got bullied and beat up in
Speaker 1: the trenches. Well, and I look at the Thursday Friday,
Speaker 1: those are your first your first three rounds, Round one
Speaker 1: on Thursday, round two, three Friday. I believe they'll you'll
Speaker 1: get there. But at twenty four and Ozzie knew some
Speaker 1: it was a Hall of fame tied in with the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. But I challenge you that this was also
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame general manager for the Bravest. He
Speaker 1: brought some talent in. He did never missed, man, he
Speaker 1: hard hard. He missed our receivers for some reason. He couldn't.
Speaker 1: He couldn't. But everywhere else you're really really good. It's
Speaker 1: really really good. So so just stay right there and
Speaker 1: go get yourself as draft pick who is going to
Speaker 1: be a solid, contributed starter for you for the next
Speaker 1: four or five years. The minimum got so, so that's
Speaker 1: how I see this thing. People want to, oh, we
Speaker 1: need the receiver, do you. I don't think you need
Speaker 1: him as much. I don't think the skill position I
Speaker 1: think you can address later on in a dress so
Speaker 1: you can shake a tree. There's an oh man to
Speaker 1: my speed and just production. I mean, there's plethora of
Speaker 1: receivers out there, so I think you can definitely get
Speaker 1: into that in the later round, maybe third, four, fifth
Speaker 1: type selections. And as far as the defensive skill players,
Speaker 1: I got, you got, you got corners. You still have
Speaker 1: guys that are that were draft picks last year that
Speaker 1: are still trying to develop them to crack the lineup.
Speaker 1: So you you you're deep at corner safety, may need
Speaker 1: a little bit of touch up on. We already talked
Speaker 1: about the defensive line. So I think on both sides
Speaker 1: of the football, your skill position, you can reach it
Speaker 1: later in the later in the draft for those. So
Speaker 1: it comes down to the trenches in the first couple
Speaker 1: of rounds, and I think we have plethora of of
Speaker 1: guys in there that we can go ahead and grab
Speaker 1: and make this team better. I am looking at the
Speaker 1: wide receiver position and I see so many people that
Speaker 1: want to, you know, just just put the Cowboys or
Speaker 1: a receiver that's sexy position. That's what it is, and
Speaker 1: it's fantasy football, That's what it is. You look at
Speaker 1: fantasy football exactly what it is. And I go back
Speaker 1: and just say, Okay, who's the last receiver you just
Speaker 1: signed a contract, big deal. Second second round pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: second round pick. And before him, Tyreek Kill was fifth
Speaker 1: round pick, issue right right? Okay, before that Adams second
Speaker 1: round pick. So this premise that you have to have
Speaker 1: these guys in the first round hit to be receiverty
Speaker 1: no not at all, Super Bowl MVP and a Triple
Speaker 1: Crown receiver. He was a triple receiver or receiving yours
Speaker 1: TD these receptions he won all three last years. Not
Speaker 1: a first round pack small school guy too. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: so I'm looking at this thing from a receiver standpoint.
Speaker 1: For these fans that are doing these smart drafts right now,
Speaker 1: you don't really have to know what you have to do.
Speaker 1: And this is where it barry you understand is haven't
Speaker 1: played the safety. It becomes about how does this guy
Speaker 1: fit within our scheme exactly? How does he fit with
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do, How does he play off
Speaker 1: a CD Lamb? How does he work with the Dak Prescott?
Speaker 1: And so not everybody's going to fit in that fashion. Nope,
Speaker 1: can't do it. Because if you look at our skill
Speaker 1: position on the offensive side, you got you you're tight
Speaker 1: end who he might not be a dynamic guy, but
Speaker 1: he's a solid, solid pass catcher out there. You got
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb, who he can be that move around guy.
Speaker 1: He could play in a slide, he could play outside,
Speaker 1: he can be your gimmick guy. He could be your
Speaker 1: all around wide receiver. And then you have Gallup who,
Speaker 1: hopefully you know when he comes back from injury maybe
Speaker 1: two three games into the season, he's your bona fide
Speaker 1: outside receiver. So you got to figure out a way
Speaker 1: to get that. I think that slot type receiver that
Speaker 1: can work in between those those numbers and those hashes
Speaker 1: and can get you some of these cool quarterback friendly
Speaker 1: kind of like a Beasley situation. And I feel like
Speaker 1: you can find a plethora of those in this draft.
Speaker 1: You don't have to go early to find a guy
Speaker 1: like that. You can address those trenches with our skill position.
Speaker 1: We can found a receiver later on in the draft.
Speaker 1: I promise you he'll be just as productive as if
Speaker 1: we found a guy in a version second. And there's
Speaker 1: some talented receivers in this draft that they're really extremely talented.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, and I've done this
Speaker 1: before pass drafts. I haven't done it yet, Peter, but
Speaker 1: go back to where you see five or six receivers
Speaker 1: go in the first round, and then look at the
Speaker 1: number of those receivers. Of the five or six guys
Speaker 1: who actually work out, it's a low number, very low.
Speaker 1: You got maybe one or two. It's a low number.
Speaker 1: You're gambling very high. You probably and I have to
Speaker 1: run the analytics and statistics on it, but it's probably
Speaker 1: closer to a standard deviation of getting a better interior
Speaker 1: player be offense or defense that works out for you
Speaker 1: in the earlier round than a receiver. It's just tough
Speaker 1: because going back to the variables quarterback system, there's just
Speaker 1: different things. Man to go into that thing as a
Speaker 1: whole and that receiver. It's not just you know, this
Speaker 1: is who I gotta block. I gotta lineup and I
Speaker 1: gotta block this guy. You gotta read defenses. They're in zone,
Speaker 1: they're in man. Then if they're in zone, that makes
Speaker 1: your route do this. If they're a man, you gotta
Speaker 1: do this with your route. So it's a lots of
Speaker 1: big time learning curve from college to NFL. You know,
Speaker 1: now the days are getting these receivers and these air
Speaker 1: raid offenses where they just line up and hike the ball.
Speaker 1: You gotta run a specific route now when you get
Speaker 1: to the National Football League. I mean there's a lot
Speaker 1: to understand with running routes and what to do at
Speaker 1: the top of your route to get a defensive back
Speaker 1: off of you. I mean, it's reading defenses. There's a
Speaker 1: lot that go into it. So I think it's harder,
Speaker 1: like you said, to come in as a skill position
Speaker 1: as a receiver and get quality snaps versus an interior guy,
Speaker 1: like an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman, where they
Speaker 1: got one specific job either block this dude or beat
Speaker 1: that dude on the block. And the missing on a
Speaker 1: wide receiver just does so much damage. You just look
Speaker 1: at Philadelphia and what's happened with Jail. They had to
Speaker 1: go spend the number on a number one pick the
Speaker 1: next year on a receiver for a while, two of them,
Speaker 1: all right, So instead of you getting Jefferson, you took Raker.
Speaker 1: So now you gotta go spend another pit. You gotta
Speaker 1: move up in the draft, give a third to go
Speaker 1: get a receiver. And that's that's where you said you
Speaker 1: miss on that thing. Man. Oh it can. It can
Speaker 1: hurt you. It can roll down hill quickly, right it can.
Speaker 1: It can. It can be hard on you. Man. So
Speaker 1: that's why I'm like, man, if I'm an miss I'm
Speaker 1: missing somebody on the inside here, because, like you said,
Speaker 1: you got skill, You got guys out there that can
Speaker 1: get the job done. To me, we just gotta show
Speaker 1: up that offensive line. So let me take this in
Speaker 1: a Mike McCarthy Terry Church. So many times when a
Speaker 1: player is either in the last year of a deal
Speaker 1: or a player seems to understand, Hey, I've got this contract,
Speaker 1: but we know it becomes a what have you done
Speaker 1: for me lately? Are you living up to your version
Speaker 1: of the contract. Sometimes guys give you some really good
Speaker 1: performances under that pressure. You know, pressure, what you know,
Speaker 1: you squeeze orange, what you get? You get orange juice,
Speaker 1: you get what's inside. Pressure makes diamonds. What if Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy gives you something this year that's really because he
Speaker 1: has to know you. Come on, baby, you read the
Speaker 1: t league. Oh, he sees it. They might not be
Speaker 1: saying it to your face, but you can see what's
Speaker 1: going on out here, right. You see the landscape. So
Speaker 1: you do have control over this right now? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know this is Sean Paynton been higher yet. You know
Speaker 1: Dan Quinny got the job yet, So you still have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to turn this thing. You're away. They call
Speaker 1: it a proven year, right, You see it all the
Speaker 1: time with players. They take those one year, prove it
Speaker 1: years and we'll see what happens there. Joe Flacco Baltimore,
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of years ago, he had one year
Speaker 1: left on his rookie deal, goes out there, wins the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Spore deal. He said, Nah, that ain't it.
Speaker 1: I think I'm an elite quarterback. We're out there one
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and one Super Bowl MVP and a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Because I also think of it this way, if you're
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Yeah, clearly he doesn't feel that that he's done.
Speaker 1: He feels like he's got more years coaching. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: so let's say you have another year where you win
Speaker 1: the division and maybe they make a change. But if
Speaker 1: you've won the division, you've had two years in a
Speaker 1: row where you've got you're you're somebody else out there
Speaker 1: is going to see you right right, So there's a
Speaker 1: lot here. That's the one I thought about. Man, there's
Speaker 1: a lot for Mike here, there is a lot. And
Speaker 1: if I'm Mike, and if I'm if this is this
Speaker 1: is my one year proved, pressure makes diamonds. I can't
Speaker 1: bust on this situation. I'm calling plays, I'm going down.
Speaker 1: If I'm going down, I'm going down swinging. I can't
Speaker 1: go down for somebody else calling to run when I
Speaker 1: wanted it to be a pass or vice versa. If
Speaker 1: this is if the if I'm pushing all my chips
Speaker 1: in the middle for this one season. I gotta be
Speaker 1: the guy making these calls. Now, I'll come back and
Speaker 1: hit you. Because he talked a little bit about it.
Speaker 1: He had said, Hey, when you're calling plays, there's just
Speaker 1: so much of you that's not involved in the rest
Speaker 1: of the team. And he wants to be involved in
Speaker 1: the rest of the team. Being involved in the rest
Speaker 1: of the team. I mean, are you sprinkle here and there,
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you're not really
Speaker 1: putting your suggestion out there. You're just helping everybody else
Speaker 1: out Like, and you're the head guy. I'm like Mac,
Speaker 1: I gotta put all my chips on the on the
Speaker 1: side of the ball that they brought me here to
Speaker 1: do to do things with, and that's the offensive side
Speaker 1: of the football. And if I'm him, you know, like
Speaker 1: you got dan Quinn over there, Hey, this is your
Speaker 1: defense right now. I understand that you might be next
Speaker 1: in line to get this job if I fail, But
Speaker 1: this is your defense. You got to go out there
Speaker 1: and make it do what it do. I'm gonna handle
Speaker 1: this officer side of the ball and do what I
Speaker 1: do best. And I supposedly called players because I was
Speaker 1: in the lab. I was in the lab while I
Speaker 1: was out. So hopefully he can come back here. But
Speaker 1: like you said, no, this is gonna be an extremely
Speaker 1: pressure field year for him, and you know, hopefully he's
Speaker 1: able to come in there and meet the table and
Speaker 1: hopefully's able to rise to the occasion, because like you said,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't and he has a mediocre year, I
Speaker 1: can see him out of here. I can see it.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get a real He's you know,
Speaker 1: he's from Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. He'll he'll have the chip he
Speaker 1: got him. He may have an Orlando Scandrick size chip
Speaker 1: now that Scandrick size chip coming into this year. How
Speaker 1: can you not feel disrespected if you're like, oh, you
Speaker 1: gotta feel extremely I mean, you got guys over here
Speaker 1: talking about didn't understand all. Yeah, so I'm paid. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a hell of the coach. Now I'm still here.
Speaker 1: I'm still coaching. I just I might not have done
Speaker 1: a long run in the playoffs, but I got this
Speaker 1: team to the playoffs. We turned it all the way around.
Speaker 1: For when I first arrived here and you over here
Speaker 1: talking about Sean Payton, dan Quinn, I mean, he had
Speaker 1: a lot of suitors out there I'm the head coach.
Speaker 1: Like it's got to he's got to feel some sort
Speaker 1: of disrespect from this whole this whole translation the rich
Speaker 1: Eisen interview he gave it. I mean, really the interview.
Speaker 1: I need to see Mike McCarthy on to really give
Speaker 1: us the whole thing. And he need to go to
Speaker 1: the red table. You need to go to Jayden entanglement.
Speaker 1: You want the tea spill, go to the red That's
Speaker 1: where he needs to get on next Jaya. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you do football coaches, but please please bring
Speaker 1: Mike mc you get all the tea that I mean, really, man,
Speaker 1: that's where he needed to be. He need to be on.
Speaker 1: He needs to be on a little get everything all
Speaker 1: the back behind the scenes and what's going on, how
Speaker 1: he really thinks about painting and everything. It's gonna it's
Speaker 1: gonna come out, come on that red table, is what
Speaker 1: Jerry had to say in It's a radio show. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you then you got I mean who we're
Speaker 1: telling man, red table talking and Jada and Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: It means entanglements and every types of it. Yes, it
Speaker 1: would be very very good, but like you said, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be extremely because I mean, what type of work
Speaker 1: conditions are that knowing you know your replacement right, you know,
Speaker 1: he might be right next to you in the in
Speaker 1: the coaches meetings. You got Sean Payton looming over your head.
Speaker 1: And if he gets on TV eventually, who knows, he
Speaker 1: might go talk and cowboys are struggling over there, you know.
Speaker 1: But McCarthy, he doesn't really you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: So it's just a whole bunch of pressure just mounted
Speaker 1: on top of his shoulders. And like you said, hopefully
Speaker 1: he can rise to the occasion. Hey, look, if it's
Speaker 1: one thing we've seen over you know, talk about tea
Speaker 1: being spilt, um, it's a shot. Peyton is a wanted guy.
Speaker 1: Steven Ross was ready to go ahead and bring in
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and hire Sean Payton and give up assets
Speaker 1: to the Saints. And so look, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: give up assets to get him because there's a contract.
Speaker 1: So if Stephen Ross's sitting up here ready to do
Speaker 1: it until flora Is hit him with the lawsuit, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be more people looking for Sean Payton. So even
Speaker 1: though he retired, they still got to like pay that contract.
Speaker 1: If they want him to come back, Well, they own
Speaker 1: the rights. Oh okay, I didn't know that, man. They
Speaker 1: own the right. So when Brett Farve tried to come
Speaker 1: back that he wanted to sign Minnesota, be like, no,
Speaker 1: we got your rights. We're not trade. We're not going
Speaker 1: to trade you to Minnesota State sent into the Jets.
Speaker 1: You're not even be an NFC. He was sending you
Speaker 1: over here. Even if you were to half have you retired,
Speaker 1: it was just slating. Nope, Ron came back Tampa. Tampa
Speaker 1: had to trade to make a trade in the wing. Ye,
Speaker 1: so so they got the rights. Otherwise you imagine how
Speaker 1: many people we retired from the NF come right back.
Speaker 1: I'm dudes, do you play Jacksonville? You wouldn't retire. I'm out.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. I'm out conflince here, I'm out
Speaker 1: later back right. Do you know how raggedy the league?
Speaker 1: That's all you had to do, castle Tom Brady forty days.
Speaker 1: I'm back. I'm back, popping up over here somewhere. You know,
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Speaker 1: Baker may fo had. I had this conversation with a
Speaker 1: Suoner fan just last week. I said, first off, just
Speaker 1: give me that clip from the Fresh Press. Win Smith
Speaker 1: was mad about his daddy. Who man, Baker put it
Speaker 1: out there for the coach. I want to go to
Speaker 1: the coach and they've got mad ride. Why I don't.
Speaker 1: Nobody won't be right because you owed eighteen million dollars
Speaker 1: a year stays the state price. Man, eighteen million dollars. Man,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna that mean I ain't gonna just bat your
Speaker 1: eye had right, So eighteen million dollars and we know
Speaker 1: the Browns can't pay you eighteen million dollars this year.
Speaker 1: May so they're in lies the whole rub of things, man.
Speaker 1: And this is what's so frustrating when I hear about
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker gets traded to New England for five, I
Speaker 1: mean four three? And why did you get a Cooper
Speaker 1: for five? Even in my man Clarence Hill Dog team
Speaker 1: put that out there. I'm like, folks, because it's about deadlines.
Speaker 1: So I've been I've been studying this in my negotiation TCU.
Speaker 1: So once everybody in the league knew there was a
Speaker 1: deadline that you had to meet or Cooper was getting
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars, you lost the leverage. I want a
Speaker 1: three man, you got three days you could take this file, right,
Speaker 1: you got you got three days, or you gonna had
Speaker 1: to pay this dude a whole twenty meal. So you
Speaker 1: bet to take this five. I got this five for you.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do with it? What you write, what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do, and nobody else will do it because
Speaker 1: everybody knew, hey man, you gotta pay this guy if
Speaker 1: you don't millions, right, and you don't want to pay
Speaker 1: the twenty million, So they're in lies. The ability to
Speaker 1: make the deal happen. People gotta understand the battner your
Speaker 1: best alternative to a negotiate it out agreem and no
Speaker 1: siate degree, which means what's your bottom line? What is
Speaker 1: your what is the thing you're most interested in. If
Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys, getting Cooper's twenty million off your kick
Speaker 1: it off the books. That is the most important thing
Speaker 1: to you, not getting a three, not getting a two.
Speaker 1: It's we don't want to pay twenty million dollars because
Speaker 1: it's guarantee. Because if we pay this dude twenty million dollars,
Speaker 1: we can't keep other people. So we've got to get money.
Speaker 1: Everybody else knows this, man, It ain't They ain't the
Speaker 1: only ones that new that. Everybody knows this. So when
Speaker 1: I when I see different media folks coming out there,
Speaker 1: we Cooper only got for five because of the leverage
Speaker 1: man that Stephen Jones has always said this to the
Speaker 1: deadlines to make deals. That's true, because everybody knew you
Speaker 1: had to sit around here pay him twenty million and
Speaker 1: didn't want because you just said you didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it. Is everything. Dude, you didn't advertise somebody you
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. Should have captaining. But that's
Speaker 1: another story for another situation. But so that's the issue there.
Speaker 1: Now you go back to Baker Mayfield, everybody in the
Speaker 1: league knows you can't pay him eighteen million dollars what's
Speaker 1: his deadline for what's the what's the deadline for that
Speaker 1: bottom line you want to get you what you want
Speaker 1: to do by June first is get the cut so
Speaker 1: you can split it up into you know, write it
Speaker 1: off over two years, over two years to that lump summit. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so we know you don't want you're not trying to
Speaker 1: pay Baker Mayfield eighteen million dollars and paid the Shot
Speaker 1: Watson back up and you signed a backup quarterback, Jakobe Brissette. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so how many quarterbacks you're trying to pay doesn't be
Speaker 1: the whole Yeah, no, nothing for nobody else. So why
Speaker 1: are you trading for Baker Mayfield? Anybody don't do that? Now,
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders would have been wiser to trade for
Speaker 1: him than that old mess they got in all they
Speaker 1: gave up a Carson Wentz. But hey, it's the command
Speaker 1: they gonna it's what they gonna find a way to
Speaker 1: mess things up. That's what they wandering in the desert
Speaker 1: when it comes to a quarter for bad for Roma.
Speaker 1: But you know that's what it is. You signed up
Speaker 1: for it. He signed up for the deal. At some
Speaker 1: point I say no, say no, Ron, tell him no,
Speaker 1: the a just wonder back man, Like I said, man
Speaker 1: Z Patrick, you you all did that. You all did
Speaker 1: that to yourself. This is true. So people knowing that
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's gonna come free, why am I gonna pay game?
Speaker 1: I give him premium for it? And why do I
Speaker 1: want to give a pick for a guy who I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's that good? I see the average
Speaker 1: quarterback okay, and I want to pay. I want to
Speaker 1: give up picks for you versus Hey man, you want
Speaker 1: a spot, come on down here, battle for one. If
Speaker 1: you're Pete Carroll, Hey man, I'm on a pick I take.
Speaker 1: I'd take him over Drew Lock over the seattle. So like,
Speaker 1: hey man, you know I played with short dudes before.
Speaker 1: Woman Little Doe was like, you want to get you
Speaker 1: some or not, but I ain't given. I ain't paying
Speaker 1: him eighteen. Well no, you're not paying eighteen, not without incentives.
Speaker 1: Hey man, here's here's ten playoffs, here's ten and then
Speaker 1: we'll incentivise you right for us again, the negotiations where
Speaker 1: you sit around here that I'm learning so much. That's
Speaker 1: what you do. Man, if you play X and that
Speaker 1: ont of games, you get this bonus you, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a whole bunch of things you can
Speaker 1: put into the contract to incentivize him to get him
Speaker 1: back to the eighteen millions. But also if you're him,
Speaker 1: hey man, Seattle has been a winning program with a
Speaker 1: good head coach who's won with quarterbacks of your stature.
Speaker 1: So for Baker Mayfield, that could be a very positive results.
Speaker 1: And if I'm set, I would feel very good if
Speaker 1: he got out of the open market. I can make
Speaker 1: a deal for Baker Mayfieldeah, yeah, it could be done.
Speaker 1: So so there's there's places to go. But no, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna pay. I'm not gonna give up a draft pick.
Speaker 1: Nor am I gonna pay eighteen million dollars for the guy.
Speaker 1: It doesn't you don't have to. And he's too much
Speaker 1: of a presence too that that kind of hurt him
Speaker 1: as well, just being that he always got to say something,
Speaker 1: you know, like some some casters, you know, hey man,
Speaker 1: you just let kind of roll off their shoulder, and
Speaker 1: not not with this dude. He gonna he gonna say something,
Speaker 1: which is why I go back to why Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: is such a good football player and such a good
Speaker 1: guy for this team. Yeah, if you wanted to be
Speaker 1: a talker. A lot of people listen, will let you talk.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, mics in front of you, right right. And
Speaker 1: that's why I have a lot of respect for him,
Speaker 1: the way he handles the job. Where he goes about
Speaker 1: you don't see him doing a whole lot of talking here.
Speaker 1: And that was where Baker got into trouble. You did
Speaker 1: way too much talking before you know. You gotta delivering
Speaker 1: twelve progressive commercials before he did anything in the league,
Speaker 1: you know. And I don't have an issue with that,
Speaker 1: but at some point in time, you had to back
Speaker 1: up what you're doing, ye house, And when management felt like,
Speaker 1: hey man, you're immature. Do they say we want an
Speaker 1: adult that quarterback? Your wife fall up here on the
Speaker 1: on the ground. That's another thing. He can't try to
Speaker 1: sit up here and basically say other people on the
Speaker 1: team need to fight with the heart he had. Then
Speaker 1: he was talking about other cats money back in the
Speaker 1: day with Duke Johnson. I said, that's the one of
Speaker 1: the biggest known knows. You can do it a lot.
Speaker 1: You had the stuff with you and Jackson. Just stuff
Speaker 1: that done after right. The organ they don't want this,
Speaker 1: they don't want this Hugh Man. Another guy who doesn't
Speaker 1: get enough credit for how he handled himself was Eli
Speaker 1: Manning oh Man. Eli never gave you anything and that
Speaker 1: and that type of media I don't live it in
Speaker 1: New York. I mean the scrutiny he was getting the
Speaker 1: two towns who bowl champ and he was still getting it,
Speaker 1: and he never went on threels. So that's something that
Speaker 1: Baker's got to learn, and maybe Pete Carroll is the
Speaker 1: kind of coach that'll give it to him. You're also
Speaker 1: out there off in Seattle. It takes your minute to
Speaker 1: get to Seattle. People are flocking there to Seattle. Not
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, not a lot of prime time.
Speaker 1: It's you know, so you don't have a whole lot
Speaker 1: of huge media presents in terms of as they do
Speaker 1: it in New York or Philadelphia either right here with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, So that would be I think Baker may
Speaker 1: feel maybe helped to go to a place it's kind
Speaker 1: of remote market, head coach who can help him and
Speaker 1: guide him along the way, who knows how to deal
Speaker 1: with that, and a season coaches won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So maybe Baker can get something there. But you know,
Speaker 1: he's got his own issues here and and you know
Speaker 1: he'd be wise to chat with someone like Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with it? Because Dak is a
Speaker 1: model citizen of what you should be. When you got
Speaker 1: that much scrutiny on you, you have his wife talked
Speaker 1: to Tad Prescott how to tweet? How to tweet your
Speaker 1: anger and displeasure without going over the line, tiptoeing it right,
Speaker 1: Just give him a little bit of give a little smoke,
Speaker 1: not all the smaller a little smoke. Hey, that is uh,
Speaker 1: that's the players, that perfect way to jazz. We appreciate
Speaker 1: you feeling it for cresh um yo church man fun.
Speaker 1: We'll get McCree back here sooner or later. Thanks everybody
Speaker 1: for checking out the place out back with you next Monday.
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