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Speaker 1: The great LeVar Arrington is with us. One of the

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Speaker 1: great athletes I've ever seen. He is a host of

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Speaker 1: two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern Monday through Friday.

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Speaker 2: He's doing not he's doing six days a week. Israel

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Speaker 2: six days a week. LaVar Arrington, What is the other show?

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Speaker 2: Because I already forgot you told me about it right before. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you have another show on the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Game is on Saturdays with TJ Housmazzata, Plexico Burst. That's

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Speaker 3: also Fox Sports Radio and on Eastern Eastern time. That's

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Speaker 3: that's noon to two pm. So on your weekend.

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Speaker 2: I love that you're doing weekend. It's amazing. Put us

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Speaker 2: where you were, put us there.

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Speaker 1: As Penn State is losing its third consecutive game, they're

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Speaker 1: losing it at home and they're losing it to Northwestern.

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Speaker 2: What is going through LaVar Harrington's mind? Who went to

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Speaker 1: Who is I would say in my Mount Rushmore Penn

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Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington is firmly entrenched in that Matt Rushmore. So

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Speaker 3: That's pretty flattering? Uh So I was there for all

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Speaker 3: three losses, all right. So I was there at the

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Speaker 3: white out. Obviously, I made an appearance making the picks

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Speaker 3: It didn't. It didn't alarm me. It was just disappointing

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Speaker 3: the u c l A game and I just the

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Speaker 3: because I probably didn't even say this on my radio show.

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Speaker 3: On the sideline, during the u c l A game,

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Speaker 3: something just didn't feel right. The energy didn't feel right,

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Speaker 3: when that game finished, I usually spin the second half

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Speaker 3: But I'm just you asked me the question. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: answer the question, yes, But if you've ever been around

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a weird feeling that you get and

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Speaker 3: it's like that, and I felt that at UCLA. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why. I can't sugarcoat it. I can't say

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Speaker 3: I don't know why that feeling came over me, but

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Speaker 3: I wasn't convinced.

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Speaker 3: And it's said that that my hunch was was correct,

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Speaker 2: Wow, So yesterday on Saturday, it was not a surprise

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Speaker 2: to you, LeVar.

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Speaker 4: It was not. Unfortunately, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: You speaking of sugarcoating stre gouts right off the bat, said,

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Speaker 5: he might have gotten lucky and and said, yes, you

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Speaker 1: I want my Mount Rushmore Penn State athletes before the

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Speaker 1: end of this interview, I will give them to you.

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Speaker 2: LaVar. Arrington's going to be first every single time. I

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Speaker 2: would love I'm going to give you the time and

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Speaker 5: I want to give you the time to come up

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Speaker 2: Gonna do that it anyway, but I do have it.

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Speaker 3: Would be if I was not, though you're on it.

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Speaker 5: LaVar, what is the the era that we are leaving

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Speaker 5: now for Penn State? Like, describe what James Franklin did,

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's a legit great question because so

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Speaker 3: I'm always humble enough to say I'm wrong if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 4: You're in the Big.

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Speaker 3: Ten and you're playing Michigan in Ohio State every single year.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to beat them. You're not going to

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Speaker 4: James Franklin came in and took.

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Speaker 3: And to me, I didn't even realize we didn't have

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Speaker 4: But along the way, people don't talk about the.

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Speaker 3: Structure that he implemented, his ability to recruit, his ability

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Speaker 3: He was a high accomplisher on so many different levels,

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Speaker 4: He was truly a pillar.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm being honest, because of the magnitude

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Speaker 3: relevant to Pitt State history as Joe Paterno is.

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Speaker 2: Me. Wow, that's that's quite the quite the statement there.

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Speaker 5: But I will say that's just to add on to

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Speaker 5: what you said, Uh, Bill O'Brien, I had to google

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Speaker 5: to see where he was now.

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Speaker 2: He's aid Boston.

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Speaker 2: Currently one and five and they're one way.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe maybe maybe he hasn't learned anything isn't that good?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, yeah, I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 2: LeVar.

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Speaker 6: I'm a fan of of the Marvel movies and the

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Speaker 6: like Doctor Strange. The multiverse theory, is there another universe

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Speaker 6: where James Franklin and Penn State win that Oregon game

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Speaker 6: and then they're there? You know, everything's normal, everything's right

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Speaker 3: Are when you know it's possible. We were one to

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Speaker 4: I just can't.

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Speaker 3: As much as I would like to live in that

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Speaker 4: Played there?

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Speaker 3: Look, little LeVar, LeVar the second is wearing the leven

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Speaker 4: Two games a year.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it was the big games, and you can

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Speaker 3: This feels way worse than having to deal with a

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Speaker 3: for you. There you go, you got it right.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's what I can tell you about Taylor's alternate universe.

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Speaker 2: If it does pay. You beat Oregon, then you beat

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Speaker 2: I mean, how about that?

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Speaker 3: Nah, I can't get involved with that because I'm too deep.

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Speaker 5: So respectfully, you see the problem with Taylor's timeline question

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Speaker 6: LaVar unrelated to the upcoming coaching search. When you get

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Speaker 6: what do you remember most about a young Matt Ruhle.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, I know where he's at it with this.

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Speaker 3: He was smart. Yeah, he wasn't athletic at all. We

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: That's what.

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Speaker 3: It struck me as strange because I sat and I learned.

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: You know what? Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like that question. I'm a fan. I mean,

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Speaker 1: We should just ask him, throw coaches out him and

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Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien, I'm not a fan. Yeah, knew that one. Already.

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Speaker 2: Uh what kind of running back was LaVar Arrington in

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Speaker 4: That was pretty good, man, I know it's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: So and then Jack Ham went to Penn State.

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Speaker 3: I really it would be a difficult It's a difficult one.

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Speaker 3: but you KNOW i.

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00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 4: COULD i had hops LIKE i. WAS i was.

442
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 3: AGGRESSIVE i worked like A Dennis. RODMAN i was going

443
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: to outwork.

444
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 4: YOU i was. QUICK i knew how to use my.

445
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: ELBOWS i knew how to get my butt on your your,

446
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: thighs so you couldn't like just like manhandle me because

447
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: you were six inches seven inches taller than me at hour.

448
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: FORWARD i just outworked, dudes and then when the ball

449
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: was coming off of the rim or the, BACKBOARD i

450
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: would move myself in position WHERE i could jump over

451
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: dudes that were like six seven six eight six.' nine

452
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: i played Against A. DONALD foyle I played i Played

453
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: against uh?

454
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: What what who was?

455
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: The?

456
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 4: Other uh who was the other? Big dude it Was A.

457
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: Donald foyle and he Went to georgetown Big To. HEIDI

458
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 3: white i played.

459
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 4: Some. Dudes, MAN yeah i.

460
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: Was out there like if if if you were, PAYING

461
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: attention i did some wild s. Out there so maybe

462
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: somebody was sitting there and like will develop his dribbling

463
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: like because THAT'S what i. COULD dribble i just wasn't

464
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: a point guard. Type Dribbler like i'm not Going to kyrie.

465
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 3: Irving anybody. I'm not i'm not doing no crazy. He

466
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 3: dribbling so maybe they thought that they would would develop.

467
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: MY dribbling i. Don't Know But cala perry.

468
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: Loved me he even brought that TEAM that, I had

469
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: marcus cam being on that one year they had that really.

470
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 4: Good run he.

471
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: Brought them to, our, our, our our our basketball court

472
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: to practice to Play against pitt and use that as

473
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: an opportunity to. Recruit Me bobby huggins really loved ME

474
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: because i fit the mold Of A. Cincinnati bearcat Uh And.

475
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 3: DANNY forston i was on the Team With, danny forston

476
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: who ended up Going to cincinnati and. Played there So

477
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: and danny wasn't. To me he wasn't even the best

478
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: player on. The team we had a guy by the

479
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: name A Tin o HUNTER that i thought was probably,

480
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: the best, you know just pure ballplayer on. The team

481
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: but there was a lot that went INTO why i,

482
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: Got recruited and, YOU know i never looked at that

483
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: as like a, real viable like option to try to go.

484
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 4: PLAY basketball i.

485
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: Was gonna say you could have probably been The Greatest

486
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 5: penn state basketball player of, all TIME because, I mean

487
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: I Mean, joe, crispin right that's.

488
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 4: My god he was.

489
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: A dude i, SAY this i would have gave you

490
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 3: some exciting MOMENTS because i used to take off like

491
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 3: my float game, was, serious man it, was serious and

492
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: it was it. Was explosive, you know it was. SUPER

493
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: explosive i, TAKE out i take off outside of the key,

494
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 3: on somebody and it didn't matter how big, You were

495
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: i'm gonna take off.

496
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: On you SO.

497
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: And i did that on the. Football field, YOU know

498
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: i did that on the. FOOTBALL field i was jumping.

499
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: Over dudes that's they Named The, LeVar leap like taking

500
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: the THINGS that. I did and basketball CROSSOVERS like i

501
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: had a.

502
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: Nice crossover that was. ABOUT it i had a.

503
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: NICE crossover i might go by you and go dunk

504
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: on SOMEBODY and i might. PULL up i had a

505
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: nice little mid. RANGE jumper i. WASN'T bad i really.

506
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: WASN'T bad, I mean i got recruited by. The school

507
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: y'all just said So And, GEORGE clown i. Wasn't Bad

508
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: like i'm actually like an urban legend in. Streetball corners,

509
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: you know if you go my my legend kind of,

510
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: like whispers, you know if you go to certain Places,

511
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: in pittsburgh like on, this court like there was some

512
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: real battles and one of the names that would come

513
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: up would.

514
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 5: Be mine if are you act like this is. A

515
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 5: secret you are one of the Greatest athletes i've ever

516
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: seen in.

517
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: My LIFE like i don't even, in fact is there

518
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: a sport your?

519
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: Bad?

520
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: Ats, oh marriage, NOT again i actually think that's.

521
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: That marriage actually.

522
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 6: See var LaVar your freshman your Freshman year carolina lost

523
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 6: in the final Four to utah in nineteen, ninety seven nineteen. Ninety,

524
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: piece yes in my personal, record book yes you were.

525
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: MISSING piece I mean i would have been good for

526
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: at least four or five REBOUNDS and i would have,

527
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: got IT and i would.

528
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: Have got you at least four four to six.

529
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: Garbage points like just off Of pure i'm faster than

530
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: you to the ball or on. That outlet you're not

531
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: going to be able to keep up with me and

532
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: throw it, to Me and i'm about to like bring

533
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: the house down with with with like a. NASTY one,

534
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean i'm like just to give you, guys CONTEXT

535
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: when i was at the height of like, PLAYING basketball

536
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: i could put, my wrist my wrist at the top

537
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: of the, white banking the.

538
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: Banking square that's that's HOW high i. Could jump SO so.

539
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: I used to be able to grab.

540
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: THE LeVar i was going some. Wild.

541
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: STUFF bruh i Wasn't going my hands are, too small

542
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: my fingers aren't long enough to like do all the

543
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: stuff with.

544
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: The BALL but.

545
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: I would i could do momentum dunks LIKE so i

546
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: wasn't really holding the ball to go through my legs

547
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: and stuff.

548
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: Like that that wasn't where we. Were at but YOU

549
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: like i would. POWER people i was more Like A

550
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: dominique wilkins in the WAY that i took On form

551
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: like it, was hard like Like.

552
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: Like i'm trying to break the rim down type stuff

553
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: like you was gonna fill them the the ENERGY when

554
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: I when i, brought It and i'm gonna put my

555
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: knees up and all that Stuff like.

556
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 6: That's exactly What ed.

557
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: Codin, needed yeah, no doubt HERE'S what i.

558
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: Was iking guarantee you LeVar five hard fucking fouls every.

559
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: SINGLE game i was Gonna.

560
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: GET hey i was gonna get. Sneaky Once so i'm

561
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: gonna elbow you on. Your Quad i'm i'm a jab

562
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: you on your ribs like like like like like like,

563
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: real Quick Like i'm i'm gonnahit like you KNOW what.

564
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: I Mean i'm i'm gonna get on. In there i'm

565
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: gonna get on in there. Real quick thank you. So, Much,

566
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: see yeah there.

567
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: You go?

568
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: All, RIGHT yeah, i, certainly uh that certainly would have been,

569
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: you know THE way i would have, moved on you

570
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: know what what we had?

571
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: Going on, sorry, Somebody nohrs.

572
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: You're good you've been talking.

573
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: A lot you need.

574
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: Some REFRESHMENTS Lev i we're gonna end with Uh With

575
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 5: Steve Goatts's mount rushmore in. A SECOND but i went

576
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 5: to a real, Basketball school University. OF florida i happened

577
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: to be There When steve sperry here was THERE and

578
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 5: i was a student athlete or student writer at. The

579
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: time and remember one time he called one of my

580
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 5: column stupid in front.

581
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: Of everybody it. Was great that was twenty.

582
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: Years OLD but i was wondering if you have Any

583
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 5: Favorite steve, spurrier STORIES because i love, the dude even

584
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: though that was one of our.

585
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: First interactions you know what's interesting about that is he

586
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: was probably breaking, on YOU if i could give you

587
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: some perspective, on it like he was probably just busting,

588
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: on you, you know busting your balls really like. He

589
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: is he is one of the, most unassuming sneaky characters that. You'll,

590
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: meet yes so he might have just was given, you

591
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: game like just messing.

592
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 4: With.

593
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: YOU bro i, Stuck AROUND so i think. That worked

594
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: WHAT'S that i?

595
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: STUCK around i, MEAN yeah i mean you've obviously like

596
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: you've done well in. The business, you know it's interesting

597
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: That That Steve coach Spurrier has even to, this day

598
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: we have a. GREAT relationship i see him At The

599
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: College football Hall of fame dinner every. Single year every

600
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: once in, A while i'll be at a, different place a,

601
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: different school and he'll, be there like just guests visiting

602
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: and stuff, like that and then just always a pleasant

603
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: person to. BE around i think very Fondly Of. COACH

604
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: spurrier i thought he was like the first wave of

605
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: like the, new age new era type of coach at the.

606
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: College level like all of these.

607
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: Guys that we see now that, you know the hypos

608
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: and the landings and ALL the i Felt Like coach

609
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: spurrier was like the first one to be that type

610
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: of style.

611
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: OF coach i really joy playing for him as.

612
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: A player but super super enjoyed, him also maybe even

613
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: more so as. A person AND so i feel like

614
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: that's the ultimate testament to, you know. Somebody's legacies who

615
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: are they as a person not so much and who

616
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: are they for their body? Of WORK but i always

617
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: Thought That coach spurry was like a really down to

618
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: earth like for all the things that. HE'S accomplished, i

619
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: mean one Won the heisman as, a player, you know won,

620
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: national titles, you know just just was an.

621
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: Amazing coach he.

622
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: Got caught up in that web of toxicity that EXISTED,

623
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: in dc just like everybody else did, you know nobody

624
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 3: was going to to out maneuver that gotlet. You know

625
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: AND so i thought that was said that that, you

626
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: know that was a part of his STORY and i

627
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: was on the teams that was a part of. That

628
00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: story but, you know in, THE end i think my

629
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: Experiences With coach spurrier were super positive and then continue

630
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: to still be. Super positive AND like, i said he's

631
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: not a malicious type. Of dude he's not even almost

632
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: like he can, be serious but it's very very like he's.

633
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: A sniper he is, a sniper but he's joking around

634
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: that think is what.

635
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 4: He said, FOR sure i would be sure to say

636
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: it's very.

637
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: Witty sniping it's not it's, Not malicious like he wasn't

638
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: trying to break. You down if he said your, article

639
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: sucked he was probably just he was probably busting, your

640
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: balls like like you turned out to be a superstar

641
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: in the in. The industry he. Probably knew he. Probably

642
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: saw he probably knew it and realized that's what, it

643
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: was and gave you a. Hard TIME if i was,

644
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: BETTING man i would, assume.

645
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: Yes because you can, handle it because he knew you

646
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: were going to. Be successful regardless of what. You see

647
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: you're not hanging on to it though.

648
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: Fifteen, Years.

649
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 5: Well i'm also hanging on to stuff like when he

650
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 5: said he can't spell CITRUS WITHOUT. U t it is

651
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 5: the most damning shot you can take out of school

652
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 5: in the history of any school In the University.

653
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: Of tennessee still isn't over?

654
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: That, Joke, yeah yeah.

655
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 3: That's, funny yeah you can't spell citrus Without ut ACTUALLY.

656
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: Uh t go BEFORE the u and citrus though it's.

657
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: The wrong person, there though, ALL RIGHT C. I T

658
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: r U s. I, BELIEVE yes.

659
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: I mean it.

660
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: Would be better IF the u was BEFORE, the t, you,

661
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 3: Know NATURALLY but, I mean i guess you do have

662
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: both letters.

663
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: In there, SO yes i still care about the commanders. Very, Much,

664
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: correct yes you still care about, that team. THAT organization

665
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: i don't, really associate, ALL right i don't.

666
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: REALLY associate i love, the FANS but i don't REALLY

667
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: like I guess i do chair.

668
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: For him.

669
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: I've tried, I've TRIED like i went back last year for,

670
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: A game i just don't feel connected, to them. GOT

671
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: it i just don't feel. The connection and it's like

672
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: it's SAD because i really have some fond memories of,

673
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: the people, you know, my teammates. The Experiences But dad

674
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: snyder afted up. Bad man like that was literally Like.

675
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 4: Like dan was like it was.

676
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: Bad MAN so i DON'T really i FEEL like i

677
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: felt like after last YEAR when i went To the,

678
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: PITTSBURGH game I said i wanted to come. Back me

679
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 3: i'm all about. Giving back i'm a person. Of service.

680
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: I'M not i don't want to go back and be

681
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: waving a flag and everybody get pumped Up like i'm

682
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 3: not your. Freaking mascot i'm not, a. Mascot dude i'm more.

683
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: About Substance so i'm big on first responders and military

684
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: and our veterans and stuff, like that our. Active MILITARY

685
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: and i, told, them like we're in the, nation's, capital

686
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: like let's connect on me being a Part Of if

687
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: i'm going to, COME back i would love to come

688
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: back and be a part of working with. Our vets

689
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: and that WAS why i came back to that game,

690
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: in particular because it was a military.

691
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: Appreciation game it.

692
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: Wasn't, everybody's, Like oh lavarley came back so he could

693
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: See The pittsburgh, steelers play like and, So what I'm a,

694
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: Steelers fan but it just happened to fall on the

695
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: day that it was. MILITARY appreciation i never heard anything back,

696
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: after THAT so i just assumed that they used me, to,

697
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 3: say look we Even Got LeVar arrington to, come back,

698
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: and now so good. For you you got. It there

699
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: you go use it how. You WANT but i, DON'T really.

700
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: I don't i don't bang with them like THAT because

701
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 3: i just don't feel like even with this, new group

702
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: LIKE maybe i just wasn't good enough where they would

703
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: take a good run at us having a conversation for

704
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 3: me to want to be. Involved AGAIN but. I don't

705
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: i don't lose any sleep, over it, YOU know. I

706
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: don't i don't have, a riskins, you know blanket or

707
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: a PILLOW that i cry in, At night like why

708
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: did this happen? TO me i was fortunate and blessed

709
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: enough to be good enough to be drafted BY a,

710
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: bs franchise and that's what happens when. You're good so

711
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: it is what. IT is i live the LIFE that

712
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: i Live because i've always been a. Good dude i'm

713
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: gonna continue to be a. Good dude and if there's

714
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: something toxic that's a part of that good, DUDE rhythm i.

715
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: JUST don't i don't really like to, entertain IT and

716
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: i don't know that IT'S not i feel like things

717
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: have Changed, In Washington So i'm i'm happy for the

718
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: FANS because I love i truly loved my RELATIONSHIP that

719
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: i had with. The fans but outside, of that, you

720
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: know it's not Like how i'm Connected To.

721
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: Penn state i'll say it.

722
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: Makes Sense Has LeVar arrington ever had any desires to

723
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: be a?

724
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: HEAD coach.

725
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 4: I was a high school head coach for three years,

726
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 4: oh boy doing.

727
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: That job i'm a very, cerebral dude like one of

728
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: the most intelligent dudes you'll. Ever. MEET now i know

729
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: they say when you, self proclaimed you're probably really not,

730
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: very intelligent but this might be one of those rare

731
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: instances where you.

732
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: Got to make an exception to.

733
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 3: THE rule i felt as though being. A, CUP first

734
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: i coached as an assistant Coach With antonio Peers At Long.

735
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: Beach polly that WAS how i, started coaching and then

736
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: after he Left For, ARIZONA state i did.

737
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 4: NOT follow i did not want.

738
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: To spend that type of time and not be around

739
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: my wife and my kids and just miss out. On

740
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: life like we talked earlier before we started the interview about,

741
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: DOING radio i do radio six days, a week but

742
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 3: it's so non intrusive to. My Life like i've already

743
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: finished my, for Today, Right yeah i'm On The. West

744
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: coast it's only what tip forty Three where i'm at,

745
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: Right now i'll be done at six am.

746
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: Every day.

747
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: That's crazy you need to, co host, you, KNOW right i.

748
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: Don't know if you want to get up at one. Thirty,

749
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: am bro you don't tip at one, thirty now that's the.

750
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 4: Hard part the hard part is.

751
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: Getting up but once you're awake and you get going at,

752
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: three am you know you're done at, six am like

753
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: and you, guys know just like this, right here we've

754
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 3: probably been on this call for over forty forty minutes

755
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: or so.

756
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: ABOUT now i, don't know it's.

757
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: Probably close but once you get to talk and this isn't,

758
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: even breaks, you know you break. It up, you know

759
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: it's like three breaks, an hour and before you know what,

760
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: you're done and all you did was talk about things,

761
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: you love talk about things that, interest you and then the.

762
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: SHOW'S over i get to do that, every day and

763
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: people get to come up to me, AND say i

764
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: listened to you on my way, to WORK or i

765
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: listened to YOU while i was at my boring.

766
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: Ass job you made it better.

767
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: For me whatever it, may be connection, to friends, every

768
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: day just doing what IT is i.

769
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: Enjoy DOING so i LOVE what. I do i love

770
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: it way more.

771
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: Than TELEVISION if i do anything like, real television why

772
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: is it to be something like This where i'm doing

773
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: it on podcasting and stuff.

774
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 4: LIKE that i feel like REGULAR network tv is.

775
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: So lame, it's dry, it's stale it's just a bunch,

776
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: of bs if you, ask me it's a bunch of

777
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: people that don't really relate to the people trying to

778
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: pick talent to relate to the people with the news

779
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: that they HAVE where i think technology is really really

780
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 3: created and open and for people to just be who

781
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: they want.

782
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 4: To BE like i was always told to cut.

783
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: MY ear i want the first dues that did national television,

784
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 3: with dreadlocks you KNOW what. I, Mean like i've never

785
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: had a problem with BEING who i am and. Expressing

786
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: myself it SEEMS like i was maybe ahead of my

787
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: time because now it just seems like everybody's allowed to

788
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: be who they want to be on. Television ANYMORE but

789
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: i like TO believe i bring up a level of

790
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: professionalism that, that really, you know transcends just getting fixated

791
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: with what what my appearance, might be you KNOW what? I, mean.

792
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: Yeah of Course Am Eastern Fox. Sports rady who doesn't

793
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: need a. Co host He, Has, joe okay he doesn't.

794
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: Need, ONE well i don't even want to get into

795
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 5: the Fact that joe got his name on, the podcast

796
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 5: but the two pros don't get their.

797
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: Actual names his Name, is jonas so it's not really

798
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: his name He's a joe like he's.

799
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: A regular two pros and a Cup? Of jonas does?

800
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: IT work a Couple of jonas, doesn't work even though

801
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: he does drive.

802
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: The show so, All Right Mount Rushmore penn state, athletes

803
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: before before, you go it's not, Just, Football, okay no

804
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: it is just football at.

805
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 3: Its football then it's really. Really bad it's. Really bad that's.

806
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 3: Really bad that's bad.

807
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 4: For Me.

808
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: LaVar arrington is On The. Mount, Rushmore okay barkley is

809
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: On My. Mount Rushmore jack hamm is On The, mount

810
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: Rushmore And franco harris is On The.

811
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 4: Mount rushmo so you did? State?

812
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL yeah i just just, JUST well i mean who was?

813
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 2: Worthy OUTSIDE can i? Give you ask?

814
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 5: You what i'll give you one that we've never heard of. Until,

815
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: today ready his Name Is. Jesse arnell but here's why there's.

816
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 5: No debate he is the greatest Athlete In penn. State

817
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 5: history he Was A, basketball american A Football All American,

818
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 5: honorable Mentioned Led penn state to their only, final four

819
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: second all time, in points all time. Leading rebounder he

820
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 5: WAS an nfl AND an nba, draft pick and.

821
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: He Was a.

822
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 2: Harlem GLOBETROTTER wow i didn't.

823
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: Know that that's.

824
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: Pretty, dope yes that's pretty go ahead.

825
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 4: To athlete than Me Though.

826
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: John cappeletti Noel Was john keppeledi is a.

827
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: Great pool that's The.

828
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 6: Only Heisman In penn, state history nineteen.

829
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: Seventy three that's a, great pool Even Though ken carter

830
00:43:59,280 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: should have.

831
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 4: Got it And Then rashawn saloon rest. His soul we

832
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: went Into the Hall of.

833
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: Fame together but that was one hundred Percent Of Key

834
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: John carter heisman.

835
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: Trophy year they were.

836
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: NOT undefeated a lot of it was because most of

837
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: it was because of his ability to run. THE ball

838
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: i mean his if you look at the amount of

839
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: carries versus the yards between the two, of them and

840
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: it's pretty. Sick comparison Man Like Kei john carter did

841
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: damage and he didn't even play most of the second

842
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: half of the game, That year like you think, about

843
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: that and showed Up Against ohio State. And michigan how

844
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: do you how do you not Win the heisman if you,

845
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: go undefeated you're Newly Into big ten and you Go

846
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: against Michigan And ohio state and you show, UP like i,

847
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 3: don't know BUT capalll leti cap definitely cap it would

848
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: be Very very it would be very difficult for me

849
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: two TO say i would be. On there it just

850
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 3: would be. Like that leslie comes, To Mind shane conlin comes,

851
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: to mind like, you guys Said. Jack ham that's just.

852
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: The linebackers we ain't even Got To. Dave robbins you're

853
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: on There, before, Micah RIGHT he's, i mean we haven't

854
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: even got that's new, school Greatness right micah, for COLLEGE

855
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: because i don't think he had enough of a body

856
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: of work in college to be at, that conversation like

857
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: like we're talking upper echellence of, like Greatness Like Paul

858
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: pus leslie Won the beaneric. Twice, TWICE yes I Wasn't all.

859
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: AMERICAN twice i was a, consensus all like a unanimous

860
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: all of you can't get any higher. Than Unanimous but

861
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 3: i'm on. There twice most guys Only Get all american.

862
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: Status once And and i'm still the only true sophomore

863
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: to ever Win defensive Player In. Big TEN so I

864
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: got i got. SOME flex i got some, flex wins

865
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: you KNOW what. I MEAN but i don't want to

866
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: make it. About me i'm, telling you Like, GOT saquon i,

867
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: think definitely he definitely belongs, On There, Kei jhanna they

868
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: definitely belong. ON there i mean there's just a host

869
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 3: of guys that really if you think about it in terms,

870
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: of Football Like lidlle mitchell could belong, on There The.

871
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: Redding rocket if you Think About lenny moore Like Like

872
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: lenny moore is like, to me he's like the goat.

873
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 3: Of goats, You Know, Lenny Moore charlie pittman and guys.

874
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875
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876
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: BROWN thomas, i mean there's.

877
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Speaker 5: JUST there I don't carter's GOOD FRIEND. O, j McDuffie

878
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Speaker 4: The, different juice the one that didn't Do anything Greaty.

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881
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: RY collins, i mean it's just it's just hard to

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Speaker 3: narrow it down where you, would say who is Your?

883
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Speaker 3: AMOUNT rushmore, i mean do we throw triplet on there

884
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Speaker 3: because of, historical reasons like the whole we are. Came

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Speaker 3: from if he ain't playing, with us if he's not staying,

886
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Speaker 3: with us then none of us are saying none of

887
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Speaker 3: us are playing like and he could.

888
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 4: Bawl and like.

889
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: It is way better.

890
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: Than basketball we have, a tradition, so, rich yes and

891
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: so it's hard to. Do that it's it's even like.

892
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: A CONVERSATION but i love my school man.

893
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: Literally, state yeah we love.

894
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: You man thank you for, doing. This bros and a

895
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Cup of joe six to Nine? Am eastern is that

896
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: a Cup of joe you're drinking?

897
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: Right, now Yes.

898
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: Spooky, Pumpkin Joe.

899
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: Spooky joe crispin, different.

900
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Speaker 5: Podcast enough of You and crispin check it might be

901
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: the third best basketball Player In penn.

902
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 2: State history that's, you know.

903
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: He's crazy so we Were Roomiest. PORTER hall.

904
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: I was my room was right here or here Me And,

905
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: sam krinshaw which We were hoopers that, played football and

906
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: then their room was right next to us with Him

907
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: and Jossy. Klein her so we were. There together we came,

908
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: in together we were. Freshmen Together so chrispin is a,

909
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 3: dope dude and. He's there he's coaching there, now currently so.

910
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: You should be coaching.

911
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: There now?

912
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: All right, all, right.

913
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: Hey look THE people i love and, LOVE me i

914
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Speaker 3: ain't gonna have them changing up On.

915
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: Me pennsylvania yeah the.

916
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: Hell out we love you as.

917
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: A player but you suck as. A, coach leavar It's Like.

918
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: Aaron glenn i've been, telling him get out. Of HERE

919
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: why i don't?

920
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 4: Like You, oh man good luck, on, That, jeez.

921
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: LeVar get out.

922
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 4: Of.

923
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: Here man we appreciate.

924
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: The time get some rush check about six to Nine

925
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: am eastern every, single day two pros and a Cup,

926
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: of joe And on saturdays. As, well LeVar we, appreciate,

927
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: It man thank you so much For doing.

928
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: Take, care gods