1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show podcast. So we got 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: this big, we got this alliance now between Cruiz and Kasik. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: It's not one that I think a lot of people 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: saw coming, but I think it's It's absolutely fine. The 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: New York Times points out this this signals a major 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: shift in tone from the Cruise campaign towards Kasey. Remember 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Cruiz was pretty tough and calling him a spoiler. This 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: is you know, go back. This is what Cruz said 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: about Kasik back at the time. Facts are stubborn things. Uh. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: John Kasick is a good man, he's an honorable man, 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: but he has no path to the nomination. It's mathematically 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: impossible for John Kasick to become the Republican nominee. He 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: needs more than of the remaining delegates. And it's worth 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: remembering Kasik went oh for seven, lost twenty seven states 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: in a row. Then he then he won his home state, 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: and then last night he lost again overwhelmingly in both 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: you haw in Arizona. Alright, so then he was a spoiler. 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: But I guess it looks like the spoiler now has 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: become a partner. And the strategy is is to stop 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Trump from getting to twelve thirty seven. Now it's clearly 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: not a partnership of close friendship, but one of necessity 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: if anything else. But casex campaign it broach the idea 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: last month. According to the Times, the Cruise campaign rejected 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: the offer, and I guess the reason it was was 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: accepted now is because of Indiana, and that state now 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: appears to be the do or die uh state in 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: terms of the Cruise campaign and the stop Trump effort. 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: A lot is going to be contingent on what happens 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. But Tuesday's primaries could be very good for 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and not so good for Hillary Clinton. I mean, 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: the Democratic races in Connecticut and Rhode Island appeared to 32 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: be toss ups. Clinton has a lead over Bernie in Connecticut, 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: thanks in large part to a sixty twenty four advantage 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: among African Americans, but in Rhode Island at Sanders, who 35 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: has a lead. So while Trump is up again, he's 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: up competitively in every state by twenty to thirty points. 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: So tomorrow doesn't seem like it's going to be difficult 38 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: for him in any way. But well, again, you have 39 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: to wait for people to vote in the numbers to 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: come in and we'll see where we are after tomorrow night. Um. So, 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: we had a Fox News poll last week that showed 42 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: in the state of Indiana, Trump was leading Cruise forty 43 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: one to thirty three percent and eight point lead case 44 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: It had six without case Itke It's now to two 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: point contest, and that move would allow Cruise to focus 46 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: next week solely on Indiana. There's a report out that 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: a Cruise supporting pack is going to spend about one 48 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: point six million dollars for him in the state of 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Indiana alone, and case It is seating the field to 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: him there. For Kass Party knows he can't win unless 51 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: there's a brokeren convention, So that explains his interest in alliance, 52 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: at least temporarily with Ted Cruz. Remember, if we get 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: to a broken convention, it's all gloves are off and 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: all bets are off and friendships will quickly become rivalries 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: once again. Um, but it does make the whole thing fascinating. 56 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: KASK will focus his attention out West and UH, together 57 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: Cruising KASK are forcing Trump to decide where he's gonna 58 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: spend his time and his energy and his resources. And 59 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: for his part, Uh, Donald Trump is uh, you know 60 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: kind of lashing out of both of them, not in 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: a bad way. He's basically saying this is an act 62 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: of desperation, and in many ways he's kind of right. 63 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean, in many ways. After tomorrow, if if Trump 64 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: is near a thousand, and that's pre California and that's 65 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: pre New Jersey, in pre West Virginia, states that I 66 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: think are favorable to him, then you've got New Mexico, Nebraska, 67 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: and Oregon and Washington. You know, it's hard to see 68 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: how he doesn't get to twelve thirty seven, especially if 69 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: he were to win Indiana. So, um, you know where 70 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: you know it's the race is intense and close, and 71 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: both cruise in case of a trailing Trump no, so 72 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: they know they have to find a way to stop 73 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: him if they have any chance, both crews and case 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: of no, they have to get to a brokered convention. 75 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: That's where we are. Now. Where Trump might be wrong 76 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: is to frame this effort is somehow unusual. Um. In 77 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, remember Mike Huckabee, he stayed in 78 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: the race long after it was clear he wasn't gonna 79 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: win the nomination, and he did it in order to 80 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: keep Mitt Romney from overtaking John McCain and becoming the 81 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Republican nominee. People forget that that was not that long ago, 82 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: and there was very bad blood between Huckabee and Romney. 83 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: In the seventies six GOP convention between Reagan and gerald 84 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: Ford included that included all sorts of maneuver, Reagan selecting 85 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: a liberal Republican uh Richard Schwiker to be his vice 86 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: presidential nominee because Reagan hoped that Schwiker would help him 87 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: win Pennsylvania the nomination because Reagan hoped that that would 88 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: happen it and he barely lost to gerald Ford, a 89 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: sitting president that year. You want a little more history, 90 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: Lincoln did a lot of willing and dealing to win 91 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: the nomination in eighteen sixty when he went into the 92 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: nomination trailing William Seward, the front runner from New York. 93 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Sound familiar, So a cruizing k Serker doing is within 94 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: the rules. Anybody that tells you differently is wrong, and 95 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: we all know that that probably, I guess because things 96 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: are so contentious that it's fairly predictable at this point. Um, 97 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: But whether you like this gambit or not probably is 98 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: determining on where you stand in the race. In other words, 99 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: if you're a Trump supporter, you probably don't like it 100 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: because you can also, I think, argue that the establishment 101 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: wants a broken convention for very different reasons. They want 102 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: a White Night candidate, and many have been very vocal 103 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: about that. If you're a Cruiser Casic supporter, you like 104 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: the idea because you think that has a possibility of working. 105 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: If you're neutral in the race, you find it fascinating 106 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: and maybe you're just eager to see how it all 107 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: plays out. Is it gonna work? Who has I don't know. 108 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: It's not gonna have any impact from what I can 109 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: see on tomorrow's races. And you've got five big states, 110 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania being the big one. We're gonna have some Pennsylvania 111 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: delegates in the next hour. Now. I don't like the 112 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: way Pennsylvania does their primary. And the Democrats in Pennsylvania 113 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: are smarter than the Republicans because the winner in Pennsylvania 114 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: get seventeen delegates. In other words, you win the state, 115 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: you get seventeen bound delegates in Pennsylvania. Now the rest 116 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: of the voting, you literally are not voting for the candidate. 117 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: You're not voting for Kasak or Cruizer Trump, You're voting 118 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: for the delegates, and we have worked hard to find 119 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: out and figure out which delegates are supporting which candidates, 120 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: because I doubt the majority of people have a clue. 121 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: And Linda, along with our friend Rose Tenant in Pittsburgh, 122 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: we put it up on my website. It's up on 123 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: roses website. We have put together a list of the 124 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: delegates in Pennsylvania depending on what district you're in and 125 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: who the delegates are supporting. Because when you go in there, 126 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: you're not gonna see Trump's name or case six name 127 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: or or Cruises name. You're gonna see delegates name, and 128 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna know which delegate supports who. But if 129 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: you look at your district on my website Hannity dot com, 130 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: you'll know. Now why Pennsylvania does it this way is 131 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: beyond any understanding that I have. I can't figure that 132 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: out for the life of me. So you know, it 133 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: could be a brilliant last minute play that we all 134 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: look back on and say, Wow, what a smart move 135 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: that was by Kasker, Cruise Or and that would allow 136 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: crews to win Indiana deny Trump denomination if Trump wins 137 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: as they predict tomorrow and Indiana, probably it's race over. 138 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm just being realistic. If he loses Indiana, it still 139 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: goes on because the percentages of lead that he has 140 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: in these Middle Atlantic and Northeastern states are you know, points. 141 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: So he's gonna get the majority of delegates in all 142 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: five states tomorrow. He's gonna have a pretty good delegate 143 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: hall tomorrow. So what we're now eight days before Indiana. 144 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: We'll find out a week from tomorrow if it was 145 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: worth it. Now they're changing the dynamic of the race. 146 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: It may not work, it may work. Who knows. So 147 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: I'll have to wait and see. Um, there is an 148 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: interesting poll out today. I will say this, you know 149 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: the thing about the Broker convention, And I know, no 150 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: matter what I say, I know people are gonna think 151 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: I'm taking sides here. There is a problem with this 152 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: is this alliance. While it is all perfectly legitimate, it 153 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: is all within the rules that everybody knew going in. 154 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: But there's one thing about the system that irks me. 155 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: In other words, that you can have candidates. Remember John 156 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: cal used John Kasy as an example. How about this, 157 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: I'll use candidate A candidate B, candidate c to make 158 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: it neutral as possible. Just to illustrate the point of 159 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: what is irking me here is you you literally have 160 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: a system that is now designed where the establishment and 161 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: other candidates are actively hoping to get in an environment 162 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: where it's possible that somebody that has won the most 163 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: states by a lot has millions and millions with more votes. 164 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: And in the case of John Kasik, he still has 165 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: less delegates to Marco ruby O got out five weeks ago. 166 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he has a quarter of a million fewer 167 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: votes than Marco Rubio had who left five weeks ago, 168 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: and his hope is is to leap frog over both 169 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz who was one states one delegates, and Donald Trump, 170 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: who has won more states and more delegates and has 171 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: millions and more votes than his closest rivals. And I 172 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: think what they're not factoring in is they put the 173 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: strategy together, is that there's gonna be a lot of 174 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: angry people at the end of this process if it 175 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: goes down that way. You have five million, literally you have, 176 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: you know, millions, six million more voters than you had 177 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: in or sixty percent more voters than you had in 178 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, and the primaries so you know, are you 179 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: gonna be so quick to disenfranchise them? Now? I don't 180 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: care what anybody says. You can explain, these are the rules. 181 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: These are the rules. These are the rules all you want. 182 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: Voters are going to interpret it very differently. They're gonna 183 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: say your rules are about as screwed up as your 184 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: party in Washington. That's how I think it will be interpreted. 185 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: I may be wrong. Now. Other good news besides the 186 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: turnout is and this was from the Battleground Pole George 187 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: Washington University Battleground Pole, and it's a bipartisan pole conducted 188 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: in partnership with the Terence Group and Lake Research Partners, 189 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: and it asked likely voters how closely they followed the 190 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: presidential campaign over the last year. Reported that they followed 191 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: the race very or somewhat closely. More than half fifty 192 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: two reported receiving updates on the campaigns via social media. 193 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: The poll found that of the five candidates still in 194 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: the race, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, and John Casi. 195 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: In the case of Sanders and Casi, they have an 196 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: unfavorable rating below respectively. The other three, Hillary Clinton has 197 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: an unfavorable rating of fifty six percent. CRUs and Trump. 198 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: All the candidates with unfavorable ratings above also have a 199 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: majority of voters saying that they would not consider voting 200 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: for them for president. When asked about increasing increasingly visible 201 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: former President Clinton, respondents showed more positive views towards the 202 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: non candidate. Not that that matters. He'll be smashed by 203 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: the time this is all over. Trust me. In a 204 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: head to head matchup of each of the party's front runners, 205 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: Mrs Clinton leads Mr Trump by only three percentage points, 206 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: even though Trump's unfavorable as are higher, and that's even undecided, 207 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: that's within the margin of error. Quote. The Republican Party 208 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: has a strongly favorable political environment for winning the White House, 209 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: said Polster ed Go as President CEO of the Terrence Group. 210 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: Of a mainstream Republican candidate, where the presumptive nominee, the 211 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: GOP would likely be in a strong position for a 212 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: lot of winds top to bottom. In November, this election 213 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: cycle introduced a new tone and turner of rhetoric used 214 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail. The coarseness of language has started 215 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: to have an impact on voter perceptions in the race, 216 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: and that goes on from there. But the bottom like 217 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: line is this is a winnable race for Republicans in 218 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: spite of what people say. All right, let's go to 219 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: uh Tom in Pennsylvania. Tom, How how are you? You 220 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: got a minute? What's going on? Yeah? What's going on? Hey? 221 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: Lifelong Democrat for forty years and switched over. Became one 222 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: of the sixty thousand or more in Pennsylvania. It became Republicans. 223 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: My wife and I And the worst part is our 224 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: families Democrat and we have family members who hold political 225 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: offices that are Democrats. So we switched to Trump. And 226 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: in fact and I we're going to see Mat Wulkesperiohagan 227 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Son Arena. Wow. Cool it for you. You're involved in 228 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: the campaign. I love people that are active and involved. 229 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: What can I do for much? So that's it. You're 230 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: just telling me you were a Democrat and you switched. Yeah, 231 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: we were die hard Democrats, the whole family. Well, what 232 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: is it? The major switch office years ago? I was 233 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: a Democrat? What made you switch Trump? Why? I like, 234 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: he's trying to get it back to the blue collar worker. 235 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm a blue collar worker and he's coming, he's speaking 236 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: our language. He's not in the pocket. That was a 237 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: big politics, the big machines. Yeah, alright, well not taking 238 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: that money. He's not. He's there for us. I got it, 239 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: all right, appreciate it, James and Tucson. You have twenty seconds. James, 240 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: go ahead. I love your show. Hey, my big issue, 241 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: but if I'm not one of those never Trump people, 242 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: but I do have an issue with Trump kind of 243 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: given in the path on continually, you know, talking about 244 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: lion Ted that I think that there needs to be 245 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: some you know, some standing up to that that that's 246 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: not helpful and it's damaging to the whole process. You know. Look, 247 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: I I think it's a candidates job if you don't 248 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: like what you're being called on the campaign trail, to 249 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: stand up for yourself. And you know what, Ted Cruz 250 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: is very capable of doing it. Oh did you see 251 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: the news today? Did you see where they banned together? 252 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: Where they collude, you know, it's collusion. You know, if 253 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: you collude in business, If you collude in business, or 254 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: if you collude in the stock market, they put you 255 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: in jail. But in politics, because it's a rig to system, 256 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: because it's a corrupt enterprise, in politics, you're allowed to collude. 257 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: So they colluded and actually I was happy because it 258 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: shows how weak they are, It shows how pathetic they are. 259 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: It's so funny. I watched Cruise this morning and he's 260 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: all mixed up because he's losing so badly, and when 261 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: he's under pressure, he's like a basket case. So he's 262 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: stuttering and he's stammering. And I watched him and he's saying, 263 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: I want jobs, and I want the economy, and I 264 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: want this and I want that, all stuff that I've 265 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: been saying for years, and he just started saying it. 266 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't know anything about the economy. He doesn't know 267 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: anything about jobs. He was a failed senator. He couldn't 268 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: get anything past nothing. Look at his legislation. He got 269 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: nothing past. And now he wants to be All he 270 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: is is a guy that will go down and stand 271 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: in filibuster for a day or two, and the other 272 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: senators all, look, when's he getting off? The floods him. 273 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Guy's out pain in the ass. When's he getting off 274 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: the floor. Well, you know, facts are stubborn things. John 275 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: Kasick is a good man, he's an honorable man, but 276 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: he has no path to the nomination. It's mathematically impossible 277 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: for John Kasick to become the Republican nominee. He needs 278 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: more than of the remaining delic You know, he is 279 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: Senator smear and people say, well, you seem to be 280 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: pointing things out. Yeah, I've said all along. You know, 281 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a pincushion or a marshmallow. He smeared Ben Carson, 282 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: he smeared Marco Rubio, he smeared Donald Trump, and now 283 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: he's smearing me. And the Wall Street Journal even pointed 284 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: out that he smeared me in an editorial last week. 285 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: This guy plays that kind of politics. It's down, it's dirty, 286 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: it's negative, and it's not uplifting. If John Kasick we're 287 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: not in the race, we would get to twelve thirty seventy. 288 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: It is possible k six role as a spoiler if 289 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: he pulls just enough votes to let Trump win states 290 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: with a plurality. I have no good explanation. Maybe he's 291 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: auditioning to be Donald Trump's vice president, but Kasy, every 292 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: vote for Kasik is a vote for Donald Trump. I 293 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: live on the on the on the hopes. All right, 294 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: they have at the sights and sounds of the campaign 295 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: moving forward. Happy Monday, if you are not just gripped 296 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: by the ebb and flow of this election. You're never 297 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: gonna be into politics. It is one topsied turvy ebb 298 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: and flow surprised by a minute, and that's a big 299 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: part of our coverage today. Anyway, Happy Monday. Thank you 300 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: Dr loudon fulfilling him for me on Friday, lad you 301 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: could be with us on some good news to start 302 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: the show before we get into the intramural politics, which 303 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: I have no doubt will rev up Twitter, Facebook and 304 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: all social media hatred as people sit there in the 305 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: comfort of their own homes and their underwear firing Trump 306 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: people firing at cruise people, Cruise people firing at Trump people, 307 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: crinel cruise But yeah, exactly, and uh I get it 308 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: all mixed up. But they're firing at each other. It 309 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: has never been this bad, and this is the future. 310 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: Elections are not gonna get any better. It's I've never 311 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: seen it so divided. Pete What's Pete Werner, who who 312 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: was in the Bush administration, actually wrote a column how 313 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: friendships are being destroyed over this primary process. I'm not 314 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: gonna lose one friend over their support for whatever. Canada. 315 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: I'm just not. I refuse to let it get there 316 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: or get that personal. It's it's just insane that it's 317 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: gotten this bad among so many people. And um, you know, 318 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: we could probably do entire hours on this program of 319 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: people telling how friendships and families are now divided over 320 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: the presidential race. And if you want to tell you 321 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: a story, you can sn is a number. But I'm 322 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: not gonna that's not going to be the focus of 323 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: the program today. Let me start out with some good news. 324 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: Matthew Boyle, Breitbart. They compiled new data after the New 325 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: York Republican primary and it shows that among the states 326 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: that have voted so far in this is a very 327 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: good sign. GOP primary and caucus turnout is up well 328 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: more than eight million votes and more than six over process. Now, 329 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: top GOP officials say the intense interest in the primary 330 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: throughout the year only serves to benefit the Republican nominee 331 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: in November, whoever that ends up being, and I would 332 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: agree with that now. So far, nationwide, the GOP has 333 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: seen an increase of eight million, seven hundred, nineteen thousand 334 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: and forty one votes in twenty sixteen primaries, caucuses, conventions 335 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: over UM and a fourteen million, four fifty two thousand, 336 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: five hundred people have voted in each of the states 337 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: and territories that have held contests. So far in twenty 338 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: six and in twenty sixteen, twenty three million, one hundred 339 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: seventy one thousand, five hundred forty one people have voted 340 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: in GOP UH contests. So we're already up literally nearly 341 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: ten million people, a sixty point three three increase in 342 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: just four years on the Republican side, and we're not 343 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: even done. Bryant's previous reacted to the news by saying, 344 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: the voters are flocking to the GOP after the horrible 345 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: eight years of Obama because they know Hillary Clinton would 346 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: be a third term of Obama and be disastrous. Um, 347 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: that's part of the story. I also think Republicans and 348 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: I think the untold story, under reported story in this 349 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: campaign is how this becoming an insurgent ear is a 350 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: direct result. And I got into a long, long winded 351 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: email exchange with a friend of mine over the weekend 352 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: about all of this. How did we get here? How 353 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: did things get so bad? And I think it's you know, 354 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: number one, I think that Americans are just fed up. 355 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: I think they're disgusted and everything that's happened. And and 356 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: by that, I mean you know, you look at how 357 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: people are reacting to, you know, what's gone on in 358 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: this campaign, and you say, my gosh, this is ridiculous. 359 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: Republicans have continued to break their promises one after another, 360 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: and there seems to be no end in sight. You know, 361 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: you go back, repealing, replacing Obamacare, using the power of 362 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: the purse. It's cetera, etcetera. I mean, you just keep 363 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: going back and against worse and worse and worse. I 364 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: mean I have, um, I've never seen anything like it. 365 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: And I am not as worried as some of you 366 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: are about Hillary Clinton. Yes, I I'm saying right here 367 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: and now today, Hillary Clinton can win. Hillary starts out 368 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: with scent of the vote, but she's also a horrible candidate, 369 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: and a lot's going to happen between now and November. 370 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: She has a lot of legal issues hanging over her head. 371 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: But if you want to know why the party is 372 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: blown up, you know it's looking last night that a 373 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: sixty minutes piece on all congressmen and and all they're 374 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: supposed to spend thirty hours a week dialing for dollars 375 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: for the Republican Party It's the same thing with the 376 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. But the net result is we're here because 377 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: Republicans have not articulated an inspiring vision. They there's little 378 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: difference now between Republicans and Democrats. They showed zero backbone 379 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: and battling the Obama agenda on every front, the debt sword, 380 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: even under Speaker Bayners term as as a leader of 381 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: the House. You know, the only fight in recent years 382 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: we've seen is not replacing Justice Scalia. Obamacare was funded, 383 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: Executive amnesty were funded, was funded. No battle because of 384 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: this ridiculous fear of being blamed for shutting down the government. 385 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: You know, say what you will about George W. Bush's 386 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: poll numbers were upside down in sideways, but he fought 387 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: for what he believed in because he knew he was 388 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: right that radical Islam was the was the modern day 389 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: Nazism of our time. And he fought hard for what 390 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: he believed in, and he fought a surgeon he won. 391 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: And I view this current crop of leaders as people 392 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: obsessed with keeping their jobs. As evidence last night on 393 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: sixty minutes and not getting blamed for a government shutdown. Well, 394 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: the only description you can use in those instances are 395 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: weak timid, feckless, spineless. There's what what are Republicans really 396 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: stand for? Where is the contract that Paul Ryan promised 397 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: me for crying out loud last time when he became speaker. Yeah, 398 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: we're coming out with something similar to the contract with 399 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: America Rome. Rome is burning, meaning America's declining. The debt 400 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: is now double what it was when Obama became president. 401 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: He's accumulated more debt than every other president before him. Combine, 402 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: the border is not secure. I mean, I can give 403 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: you there's an article out there today about how ISIS 404 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: was on Fox News and ISIS revealed their plan to 405 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: infiltrate America where through Mexico. No wonder why Americans view 406 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: this building of the walls an important issue. You know, 407 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: our schools are languishing, there's no economic recovery. You know. 408 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: There's an article that I saw this weekend. One in 409 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: five Americans sad lee. One of five American families have 410 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: literally nobody in the family working, not one person, not one. 411 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Here's the article is written in the Washington Free Beacon. 412 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: No one works and one in five US families, in 413 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: other words, nineteen point seven in which not one member 414 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: of the family works Oh, but the unemployment right on 415 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: the Barack Obama's down because they use a Washington calculator 416 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: that's full of crap and they just openly lie to you. 417 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: So our schools are languishing, the debt is awful. We're 418 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: robbing our kids blind. They robbed your Social Security money, 419 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: you know. They there's nothing little done to help people 420 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: that are out of work, out of the labor force. 421 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: They're not helping these of families were not one member 422 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: of the family as a job. They're not helping people 423 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: in poverty and on food stamps. There's zero sense of 424 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: urgency to fix the trajectory upon which we are moving, 425 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: which is towards Greece and bankruptcy. You know. And then 426 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: people are wondering, well, why is there a political earthquake 427 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: going on? Why is there the insurgency? Candidacy is going on? 428 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: Because you idiots, you caused it and for all. And 429 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: they'll be the same people that throw whoever the Republican 430 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: nominee is down the stairs, and then they're gotta turn 431 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: around and lash out it you and me and Fox 432 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: and talk radio as if it's all our fault. You know, 433 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: I I can't think we could do much worse at 434 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: this point. I really don't horrible. What's the name of 435 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: the guy they featured on sixty Minutes last night. I 436 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: liked this guy. He's um Jolly, he's running for Florida. 437 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: He said, I'm not I'm not going dialing for dollars. 438 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spend thirty hours a week David Jolly. 439 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: Good for him. He was great last night. Now, all right, 440 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: so we've got this whole issue unfolding, this alliance that 441 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: has now taking place between Kasi and crews. And I 442 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: guess there's a couple of ways to interpret this, and 443 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: it will probably you'll view it through the prism of 444 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: who it is that you're supporting. That's my guess. But 445 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, just really, I guess what there. I guess 446 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: we needed a more interesting campaign because it hasn't been 447 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: interesting enough up to this point. We all know what 448 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: the danger was, that things were just getting too pooring 449 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: in this campaign. Actually, it's been one of the most 450 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: fascinating years ever. And I have followed presidential politics since 451 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: my teens. So Ted Cruz and John Kasy decided to 452 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: coordinate in future primary contests. This is an effort to 453 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: prevent Donald Trump from getting the nomination in twelve and 454 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: thirty seven delegates, and just like that, the Twitter universe, 455 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: social media, the political world explodes, and I think there's 456 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about here. Look I don't really 457 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: I really mean this. I don't really care who you 458 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: vote for. If you haven't voted yet, I don't care 459 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: who you did vote war. I do hope in the 460 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: end that there will be some mending offenses and some 461 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: piece because there's only going to be one winner. In 462 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: a statement last night, Cruises Manager campaign manager Jeff Rose 463 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: said the campaign would focus it's time and resources in 464 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: Indiana and turn the clear path for Governor Kasik to 465 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: compete in Oregon and New Mexico. And right after that, 466 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: the Casey campaign put out a similar message. John Weaver, 467 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: He's K six manager campaign manager, said that the campaign 468 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: would shift their resources to states in the West and 469 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: give Cruise the Cruise campaign a clear path in Indiana. 470 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: Both campaigns said they expected allies and third party groups 471 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: to follow their lead. As The New York Times points out, 472 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: this signals a major shift in tone from the Cruise 473 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: campaign towards Kasik, whom Cruise AIDS have long cast as 474 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: a spoiler in the race. Well not anymore. The spoiler 475 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: is now become a partner in the stop Trump effort. 476 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: By the way, they have every right to do this, 477 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: and if you're a look, they have every right to 478 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: create whatever alliances they want. If they felt confident in 479 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: their positions. I don't think they would do it. But 480 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: clearly there's only one candidate left. Mathematically that as it 481 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: passed to twelve path the twelve thirty seven, and that's 482 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And Trump right now is plus twenty six 483 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: and recent poles in Pennsylvania, plus thirty four in Connecticut, 484 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: plus thirty eight in Rhode Island, plus twenty in Maryland, 485 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: and he's plus thirty something in Delaware. I mean, that 486 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: could be a five state delegate windfall for Donald Trump 487 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: tomorrow and maybe get them close to a thousand delegates. 488 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: So at that point, you know, Indiana takes on a 489 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: greater a greater purpose. Anyway, we have so much to 490 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: get to, so much to get to. Joining us now 491 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: posters giving us a preview not only what we will 492 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: see tomorrow in Delaware, Maryland, Rhode Island, Connecticut, in Pennsylvania, 493 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: but even beyond we have the brothers John and Jim 494 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: McLaughlin and founders of McLaughlin and Associates. Jim is the 495 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: guy that usually doesn't show up, and John is the 496 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: guy that usually is responsible and shows up on programs 497 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: that he agrees to be on. Welcome always the older brother, Sean, Yeah, 498 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: what is that? I mean, you're supposed to be on 499 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: the air. You didn't show up for the whole half hour. 500 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: It's not like, what were you busy going to the bathroom? 501 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: Something happened, What was going on? How to go to 502 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: the hospital. My apologies. There was a little bit of 503 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: a miscommunication there, a little bit of a miscommunication. In 504 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: other words, you got busy doing something else more important, 505 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: you know. He just it's it's the older brother carrying 506 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: the work. And you know, by the way, Lynda McLaughlin 507 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: would understand. You know, she's the oldest in her family. 508 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: So all right, enough with Linda. We don't you know 509 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: what Linda's head is big enough already. Do we really 510 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: need this? Seriously? The older ones have to carry it. 511 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: Everybody rags on Linda, alright, Berlynda, Linda, Linda, we're getting 512 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: sick of Linda. Well, I know, but everybody has to 513 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: tell me it. Every day. All right, so let's go 514 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: to the polls. So tomorrow we've got five states a 515 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: more interested on the Republican side, I think it's pretty 516 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: well wrapped up, especially because of the corrupt super delegate system. 517 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: On the Democratic side, you got Rhode Island Real Clear 518 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: Politics average Trump plus twenty five at forty nine point five. 519 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: Connecticut it's Trump plus twenty six at fifty two point 520 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: three Real Clear Politics Average. Pennsylvania, the biggest prize of 521 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: the night, you got Trump plus nineteen point four at 522 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: forty five point eight percent, although the two most recent 523 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: polls had him at fifty one and forty nine. Uh. 524 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: And then if you move to Delaware and Maryland, it's 525 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. Maryland it's what plus twenty or for 526 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and uh and pretty much the same thing. 527 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: It's actually is more were in Delaware it's Trump plus 528 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: thirty seven. So what are we looking at delegate wise 529 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 1: tomorrow night for the three Republicans, Well, Trump's Trump's at 530 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: eight forty five now and he needs of the remaining 531 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: seven thirty three that aren't allocated. He needs fifty uh 532 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: to win the whole thing on the first ballot. So um, 533 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: so he's looking in pretty good shape. And and and 534 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: the one that we've talked about in the past was 535 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: always uh, Indiana because the Northeast crews kind of well, 536 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: let's before we get to Indiana, let's stay at the 537 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: five states we got tomorrow because I have a lot 538 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: of Indiana questions. Right, So you've got you've got twenty 539 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: eight in Connecticut, and they're going to be allocated proportionately, 540 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: so you know, he's probably going to get uh, he's 541 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna get close to the Delaware sixteen. He'll get 542 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: the sixteen in Delaware, Maryland, this thirty eight will probably 543 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: get most of the most of the thirty eight. And 544 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania that's the one where is tricky because you have 545 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: seventeen winner take all that, uh, you know, we'll go statewide. 546 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: But then there's fifty four unbound that he's probably I 547 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: have been flanked with. And where were ahead of you 548 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: on this, by the way, because I think it's unfair 549 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: to voters to go in and you're actually voting for 550 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: delegates and you have no idea who the delegates are 551 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: going to support. So we actually did the hard work. 552 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: Linda included to give her props and credit, so she's 553 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: not piste off the rest of the day. Um. But honestly, 554 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: we we went through the hard work of tracking down 555 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: these delegates and we are connected. We have connected on 556 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: my website Hannity dot com the delegates and who they're supporting. So, 557 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: in other words, of the delegate is supporting Cruise, you'll 558 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: know that you'll not to vote for that delegate if 559 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: you want Cruise. If it's Trump, you'll not to vote 560 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: for that delegate. If you want Trump, if it's Casey, 561 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: you'll know who to vote for that delegate. Although not 562 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: too many delegates there are supporting Casey. Yes, so we're 563 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, we're interestill neutral in this presidential ry. So 564 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: we've been able to we didn't haven't had to go 565 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: through the fun part of doing that which the campaigns 566 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: have done. But but you know, you Trump should come 567 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: out of it, you know, with there's about eight are 568 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: gonna be side eighty or ninety, So it should be 569 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: as big a night as he had in in Uh 570 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: that he had with New York. But my math would 571 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: but actually higher. If he takes the state of Pennsylvania, 572 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: get seventeen off the bat, you're saying he gets about 573 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: twenty five out of Connecticut, right, Delaware, you think he 574 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: gets all sixteen winner take all? Okay? And Maryland is 575 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: thirty eighties got a pretty significant lead in Maryland. So 576 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: what does he get out of the thirty eight there? 577 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: He might get it isn't Maryland Maryland's winner take all. Yeah, 578 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: he can get like on paper tomorrow, he can get 579 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: a hundred seventy two delegates, but it's not gonna happen 580 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: because now that's California, alright, so so so so, and 581 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: then you got seventy. You've got seventeen for winning Pennsylvania. 582 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: How many of the fifty four unbound even though there 583 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: are delegates that will be bound to him? Do you 584 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: think he gets in Pennsylvania? That? I don't know. We 585 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: gotta check your website, right, So let's say let's say 586 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: it's fifty total. If it's all right, so that's fifty, 587 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: that's a hundred, and that's like a hundred and twenty 588 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: delegates tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, it's it's gonna be a big 589 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: day to more for Donald Trump. And I think one 590 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: of the ways you can tell that too is Ted Cruz. 591 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: I believe today and tomorrow is in the Indiana both days, 592 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: So you know, they left Casey in Pennsylvania. He actually 593 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: is in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia today. But you know, because 594 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Sean, some of those delegates still are 595 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: up for grabs because of the proportionality that's going on 596 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. But I think that says an awful lot 597 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: by Ted Cruise not being in Pennsylvania. So he might 598 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: come out with anywhere between nine fifty and say nine 599 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: eight delegates tomorrow. Yeah, and I've actually seen some analysis 600 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: where it is possible he's in around a thousand, you know, 601 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: he's he's at around a thousand by after tomorrow. All right, 602 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: So if you look at all those numbers and let's 603 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: say that's the case, is he then the presumptive nominee? Well, 604 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: I think uh, I think a lot of people think 605 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: that already. And the question is is because what's the 606 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: biggest news story today and broke this today was that 607 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: kask and Cruise are gonna split the territory. And basically 608 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna, you know, Kasey is bailing out of Indiana 609 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: and then Cruiz is gonna step aside for Trump in 610 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: New Mexico and Oregon. And and by doing that, it's 611 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: a real sign of weakness because it means that we're losing. 612 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: And and the problem is is that Cruise and Kasey 613 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: grenwly asking people to you know, vote against Trump so 614 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a first ballot win. And the only 615 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: one who really can actually claim that he should be 616 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: on the ballot against Trump in the convention is Cruise. 617 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: Because you know, this idea of a white Knight or 618 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: a third party coming in, you're gonna upset a lot 619 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: of delegates, whether Trump or Cruise people. They're not going 620 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: to change the rule that that rule forty b that 621 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: you have to won eight states and you have to 622 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: run and primaries. So they're gonna leave that, you know, 623 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: as you notice, uh when you were covering last week 624 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: the Republicans when they met in Florida that they didn't 625 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: vote to change any rules. Let's look at the Indiana poles. 626 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: In Indiana, the Fox News poll had Trump plus eight. Um, 627 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: you have one of the poll was Trump plus six. 628 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: That was the w t HR Howie Politics, Paul, I've 629 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: never heard of them before. Do you know them? They 630 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: they're they're polled, They're a statewide pole. They get a 631 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: lot of press in in Indiana because we did. We 632 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: did the polling for the state Center. So then you 633 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: also have Trump's gonna win New Jersey. And in California, 634 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: the Fox poll had Trump Cruise twenty two Kent and 635 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: then the CBS polls yesterday was had had Trump of 636 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: five thirty five with Cast twenty and that twenty. Those 637 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: voters who are picking Kasick in Indiana, from the polling 638 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: that we've seen in Indiana, they're more moderate and Cruises 639 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: people are to the right of Trump's people. So when 640 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: you ask a Ksy voter to you know, vote for 641 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: cruz Um, they don't have the same feelings about Cruise 642 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: that they do about Kasi. So Trump's kind of in 643 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: the middle. He's between the two and them as a 644 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: suwhat conservative of land so what uh what Trump's had 645 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: right now and in Indiana, so he's That's what It's 646 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: gonna be very very hard for Cruise if if Trump 647 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: wins Indiana, it's gonna be very very hard to stop 648 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: him with the momentum going into California. Now, it was 649 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: announced today that a Cruise supporting pack is going to 650 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: spend one point six million dollars and ads against Trump 651 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: in Indiana. So they're going all in. Yeah, yeah, it's 652 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like they're trying to make Indiana the new Wisconsin. 653 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: And and part of that too is it's a winner 654 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: take all state and it's the one state because if 655 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: you look at it, Trump has done well in the 656 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: big states, you know, everywhere from New York, he's doing 657 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 1: well in California right now, he did well in Massachusetts 658 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: where resources you know where the other side. And that's 659 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: one of the dirty little secrets in this race, Sean, 660 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: is there's not a lot of resources on the anti 661 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: Trump side right now. Cruise doesn't have a lot of 662 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: money and John Kasik doesn't have a lot of money 663 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: right now. That's why you're seeing them really trying to 664 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: pick and choose where they're playing what it's really just 665 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: all about the nine delegates. And in Indiana, Trump has 666 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: been running hands already. They have an ad where his 667 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: sons on TV and the people that I work with 668 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: the Republicans out there tell me it's a good hand. 669 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: It's a it's a different side of Trump where a 670 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, we've seen him on your show, 671 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of people out there where 672 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: they've said before Wisconsin when he was in the side 673 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: issues and getting personal. He was way off message. Um, 674 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: you know he learned from that and he's and he's 675 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: clearly changed. He's been more focused on his message. But 676 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: the family side, like like you had in uh the 677 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: night before there was constant primary, you had Trump and 678 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: Milanney on your show. Her being with him gives him 679 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: a better look to the voters. The same same with this. 680 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: So you think this alliance is more out of financial 681 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: they're sort of pulling their financial resources because you say 682 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: they're running out of money, and you think it's a 683 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: sign of weakness. Why do you view that as a 684 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: sign of weakness there behind the delegates, Because if Trump 685 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: keeps on racking up the Delicia, you're gonna lose. He'll 686 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,479 Speaker 1: get Hell, he could win this for for for weeks. 687 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: I've been on show saying he can win on a 688 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: first ballot and uh, he the only one who could 689 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 1: stop him really from that first ballot win is him. 690 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: When he makes mistakes, he goes down in polls and 691 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: he loses. When he's on message and he talks about 692 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: being anti Washington, against the government, and more importantly anti 693 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: Hillary these days, anti Obama and anti Hillary, he rallies 694 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: the Republicans and uh, and that's when he and that's 695 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: when he picks up and that and I also think 696 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: Suan that this process messaging about you know, the never 697 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, stop Trump and you know we're gonna we're 698 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: gonna lay down in places like New Mexico and Oregon 699 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: in Indiana, that kind of messaging I think hurts Ted 700 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: Cruz whenever he's talking process, because the way Ted Cruz 701 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: is trying to win this, he's saying, I'm the proven conservative, 702 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm the real conservative here. He wants to talk issues 703 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: and policies and that's his strength, not talking about process. 704 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: All right, So let me ask this. So then beyond 705 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: that you've got, let's go to the other states. Oregon, Washington, Yeah, 706 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: West Virginia, Indie, Yanna, Nebraska. What am I forgetting? I'm 707 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: forgetting something that you know you've got in Nebraska, West 708 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: Virginia to tant Oregon on the seventeenth, Washington. But then 709 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: the big one is seven California and New Jersey, Montana, 710 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey, New Mexico, South Dakota and New Mexico South 711 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: Dakota all right, and New Jersey all right. So who's 712 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna win those. Right now, Trump's ahead and he's building momentum. 713 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 1: I mean it really comes down to, like literally when 714 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,479 Speaker 1: when we were talking about Wisconsin and you could see 715 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: these north these primers were going to be good for Trump, 716 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: it's been saying, we were saying the place where he 717 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: could get stopped is Indiana. And then Cruz also has 718 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: to really just all right, here's the most important question 719 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you both. So why is it in 720 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: these hypothetical matchups against either Hillary or Bernie Sanders? Why 721 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: is it case of only one one state does the best, 722 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: Cruise does the second best, and Trump does the worst. 723 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: Cas got lower negatives. It's it's it's all right, but 724 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: do you think they're realistic for what November brings or 725 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: it depends obviously what happens. But it's one of those 726 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: things where all the establishment candidates that were running on 727 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: the traditional issues that didn't command the anger of the 728 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: electorate they lost their out. Casey's still hanging in there, 729 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: but you know he's it's mathematically was eliminated a long 730 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: time ago. Cruise. What what's amazing is you got Trump 731 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: and crews who are the front runners, and the reason 732 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: is because they've been the most anti Obama, they've been 733 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: the most anti Washington. They're the outsiders. So so does 734 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: this alliance with Kasek hurt that imaging on Cruises side 735 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: or does it help him? No, he just Jim can say. 736 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: But I think it looks like they're starting to look 737 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: desperate because the mass is going south on them and 738 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: cruises Jim's right when cruises on message being the most conservative, 739 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: which I think that's what you're gonna see in Indiana. 740 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: He's really gonna he's really gonna try to push Trump 741 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: left and winning an ideological battle. And I don't And 742 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: by the way, John and I both agree on this. 743 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question that I think that 744 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: this this does probably hurt him a little bit. But 745 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: you know what, when your cruise and you're case, you're 746 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: looking to change the directory of the race, and the 747 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: only shot they have is to deny him delegates, you know, 748 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that people are 749 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: forgetting about the delegates, and people think these delegates, because 750 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: of some of the things that have been going on, 751 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: they were all these Republican insiders, They're these establishment Republicans. 752 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: I know some of these delegates. I've worked with them 753 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: over the years I've been on other presidential race. Really, 754 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: what these delegates are They're conservative activists. I would even 755 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: make an argument a lot of them. I'm not saying 756 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 1: all of them, but a lot of them are more 757 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: conservative activists than they are Republican activists. And I think 758 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: one of the challenges while right now the math is 759 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: really really good for Donald Trump, Donald Trump needs to 760 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: convince these delegates that he's sufficiently concerned. They obligated, though, 761 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: on the first ballot, to support him in most cases, 762 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: in most cases, you are exactly right, And so can 763 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: they all call in second not vote. They'll be there 764 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: but the convention, Yeah, I agree, all right? So if 765 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: he predictions, do you think if it is a Trump 766 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: Hillary matchup? John McLaughlin, do you think Trump could win? 767 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: You can win that because his negatives although at last 768 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: n Chow Pole, you know, he had unfavorable she had 769 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: a fifty eight unfavorable, So you think yes, But so 770 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: you think these poles are off? I think he can 771 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: change his numbers. Jim, what do you think? I agree 772 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: with you, And I'm not saying the polls are off, 773 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is the race can change. We 774 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: have you know, we have months until the general election, 775 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: and she could be in an orange jumpsuit by then. 776 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: That's a good point, all right, I got it. Roll guys, 777 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for the opportunity, pleasure. We have 778 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: five contests tomorrow, and as I've been pointing out, Trump 779 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: is soaring in Pennsylvania. Up thirty four in Connecticut, up 780 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: thirty eight in Rhode Island, I mean massive. It seems 781 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: like everything that they do to sort of work against 782 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: him doesn't backfires. But it's pretty fascinating. Now, Pennsylvania is 783 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: unique beyond any other state. We've had a lot of 784 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: discussions on this program about delegates and whether they're bound 785 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 1: or unbound, how delegates are selected the states, and whether 786 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: they caucus or primary, and whether or not delegates, you know, 787 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: it's proportional, win or take all. Well, in the state 788 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania, seventeen delegates are awarded to the state winner. Seventeen. 789 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: Now the remaining delegates, fifty four of them are on 790 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 1: the ballot. But on the ballot in Pennsylvania, they don't 791 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: have the names of the delegates who the delegates are supporting, 792 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: just the name of the delegate so you go into 793 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: voting both most people are gonna be like, huh, who 794 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: are these people? So what we've tried to do is 795 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of like a voter service A little bit is 796 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: we match. We're matching the names of the delegates with 797 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: the candidates they have stated that they will support. Now, surprisingly, 798 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: there are not many people in Pennsylvania. As a matter 799 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: of fact, I think we found one for John K. 800 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: Sick and the rest are distributed among among Trump and 801 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: Crew supporters. So we got a couple of the delegates. 802 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: Lynn Ryan is in District three in western Pennsylvania bordering 803 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: on Ohio. Ton Orham is a delegate as well from 804 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: District eighteen that's southwestern Pennsylvania. He's the longest elected delegate 805 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: in the nation, has attended and been a part of 806 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: every election since Ronald Reagan. And Dean Browning is as 807 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: a delegate from District fifteen, which covers five counties. Lehigh 808 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: County is and as sixty miles north of Philadelphia. UM, 809 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: welcome all three of you to the program and appreciate 810 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: you being with us. Tom, I guess because you've been 811 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: at this the longest, I'm gonna start with you. Uh 812 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: to me, It's a little strange and odd and confusing 813 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: for voters in Pennsylvania to have delegate names on the 814 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: ballot and with no connection to the candidate that they're 815 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: most likely to support, as they're all unbound. That's true. 816 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 1: That's true. And uh, I've had people call and say, hey, look, 817 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the voter guide here the Democrats stated 818 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: are supporting, but you guys don't say who you are supporting. Right, 819 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: There is a little confusion, all right. So I think 820 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: you've taken a look, all of you at what we 821 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: put together on my website. Do you think it's helpful 822 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: for the people of Pennsylvania. Oh, no doubt. And I've 823 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: referred to a lot of people over there to say, hey, 824 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: you can go to whether it be Roses site, your site, Bros. 825 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: Thros Tenant is a good friend of mine. Our our website, 826 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: Hannity dot com is my website because I got to imagine, Look, 827 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: I've actually had this experience myself in New York where 828 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: I go into the voting booth and you know, I'm 829 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,479 Speaker 1: rushed and they've had hectic day. I'm raising two kids, 830 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm working two full time jobs, and I race in 831 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: there and then all of a sudden, I'm voting for 832 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: judges and I have no clue who they are, or 833 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: you're looking yeah, or you're looking at a referendum, and 834 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: I didn't really spend enough time studying the referendum. Now, 835 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: I I always make sure I get a copy of 836 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: the ballot before I go in. But I've made that 837 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: mistake in the past, and I can understand people that 838 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: are busy not having the time to go through all this. Yeah, 839 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: and you're in the minority on that for sure, or 840 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 1: so you know, we've done everything that we can, is Uh. 841 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: The delegates that have teamed up, particularly the endorsed team 842 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: here in the eight team were Trump And we've done 843 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 1: some radio, we've done television, not television, Uh, the newspapers 844 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: in the major cities. Uh, and just said here's the 845 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: slate so that at least people know who they are. 846 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: You know, who are the delegates for for Trump in 847 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: our you know, because it's got to be frustrating if 848 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: if you're a voter in a district and you put 849 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, I don't care what preference of candidate you 850 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: want your delegate to represent your vote, especially if the 851 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: candidate you chose actually wins the district, no question, no poa. 852 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: And I'm getting calls like that and saying, you know, 853 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm voting for so and so for president, who are 854 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 1: you for? And they're having to do the homework on 855 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: their own, And uh, I know that in our county 856 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: that we have the entire slate of the eleven of 857 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: us that are running in what we've stated as preference. 858 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: All right, and Dean, you're supporting Senator Crews right in 859 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: District fifteen. Have you had the same confusion in your district? No, 860 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: to to a certain extent that I'd lecture respond and 861 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: say that that's really what campaigns are for, to educate 862 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 1: the voters. Here in the Pennsylvania fifteenth Congressional district, we've 863 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: got his slates of delegates that are endorsed by Senator 864 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: Cruz and the slate of delegates that are also endorsed 865 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump. Both of those campaigns have sent out 866 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 1: mailers to voters to alert them who's voting for who. 867 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,919 Speaker 1: We've got a local talk talk radio show that has 868 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: had has had candidates on to express their views. Local 869 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: newspapers have print out put out yeah but listening to 870 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: be To be fair, though, I mean, there's still going 871 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: to be people, I guarantee you that go into voting 872 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: booth and they don't have a clue. Well, and that's 873 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: the case for almost any election. But wouldn't it wouldn't 874 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: it be For example, don't don't the Democrats associate the 875 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: delegate with the candidate on their ballots? Yes? They do, 876 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: so wouldn't it be simpler for Republicans to do the 877 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: same thing in Pennsylvania? It's certainly. Wouldn't it be less confusing? 878 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it been helpful to the voters? And that is 879 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: something that I'm sure the State Committee will be looking 880 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: at after this primary. If you look at it, historically, 881 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania has really not been in this situation where we've 882 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: rolled in who the nominee is going to be. Uh, 883 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: And that's certainly not the case this time around. Yeah. Now, Lynn, 884 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: you are in District three in western p A. You're 885 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: near the Ohio border. Um, I've got to believe that 886 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: this has been confusing also in your district. Absolutely, and 887 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: it's very disingenuous to the voters that we aren't bound delegates. 888 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: And I'm on the State Committee and I can assure 889 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: you that this is going to be brought up in 890 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: our convention in May, because people did not realize that 891 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: this was the system. I guess the best thing about 892 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: the election this year is that it has put sunlight 893 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: on the situation that people were unfamiliar with. And I 894 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: have to admit I'm a political junkie and I was 895 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: unfamiliar with the unbound delegates. We've never had a significant 896 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: role in the election because by the time the primary 897 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: gets around Pennsylvania, usually the winner has already um the 898 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: nominee for the party has already been elected or nominated 899 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: or selected by the previous UH primaries in the previous state. 900 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: So we're we're kind of late on this late. By 901 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: the way, I made a mistake last Thursday, Dan, I 902 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: don't know how you say his last name, UH VT 903 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 1: from District three, and I made a mistake and said 904 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,240 Speaker 1: he was I think our cruise delegate or an uncommitted delegate, 905 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 1: and he's really a Trump delegate. And by the way, 906 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: this was after we've done a lot of work. So 907 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean that just goes to show how how confusing 908 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: it could be. Let me ask all three of you this, 909 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter who you're supporting. I just think 910 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 1: the voters. Look, I think it's got to be voter friendly. 911 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: I think it's got to be simple for the voter. 912 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: Make it easy for the voter. They shouldn't have to 913 00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: go through this arduous process. If they've been following the debates, 914 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: they know the names of the candidates. Then to put 915 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: the delegate names without the candidate they're supporting on it, 916 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: on top of them being unbound on top also to 917 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: me is very very confusing as the whole process um. 918 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: So I would think that there should be some three 919 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: simple changes, and I want to get all of you 920 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: to weigh in on this. Now, the Republican Party's a 921 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: national party, so I would say any state could have 922 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: a primary or a caucus. It's their choice. Any state 923 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: can choose proportional distribution of delegates or winner take all. 924 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: And I think every state should be mandated to have 925 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: bound delegates at least on the first ballot. Tom will 926 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: start with you, do you think that sounds like a 927 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: fair system? I think not only is it fair, it's 928 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: very transparent in that way. The delegate also has to 929 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: make up their mind and do their homework before they 930 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 1: select a candidate. And not only that, but by the 931 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: way the seventeen at large right now, those came from 932 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: a change just as past this past summer at state 933 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: Committee as well, where we were asked to do to 934 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: have the seventeam because before in District eight team we 935 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: would have had four delegates selected, not not three. Yeah, 936 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: what does your take on a dean? I think it 937 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: would be a fair change to have the candidates that 938 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,720 Speaker 1: are supporting listed next to your name. I do believe 939 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: proportional representation would be more appropriate. After all, we are 940 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: a republic, not a straight democracy. So I'm not entirely 941 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: in papor win or take off. I'm letty. I'm just 942 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: letting the states decide. That's that's my possession on that 943 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: it's but yes, wherever republic I agree, but go ahead. 944 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: And I was going to say, you know, specifically here 945 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: in the Pennsylvania much has been said about we need 946 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,800 Speaker 1: to follow the will of the people. Without somebody getting 947 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: over fifty of the vote in my congressional district. You 948 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: could reasonably say that anything that plus say Donald Trump 949 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 1: gets thirty eight percent and Cruiz gets, Cacious gets and 950 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: then Bush, Rubio and Carson, who by the way, you're 951 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: still on the ballot get the remainder. Then you can 952 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,720 Speaker 1: legitimately say that you know, there's sixty of the voters 953 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: in this district I don't want Donald Trump. Well, that's 954 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: kind of but that's a funky way of doing math. 955 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: Let's be honest here, If the majority, if a plurality 956 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 1: of voters in your district want candidate A over candidate BNC, 957 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: don't you think, Look, I know what I the obligation 958 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: I would feel if I were a delegate, I would 959 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: stick to what my district voted for. I would feel 960 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: an obligation to represent them and their desires or the 961 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: majority or the plurality of voters in that in that 962 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: because it's very look using that mathematical formula, I mean 963 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: it's very hard with three, four or seventeen candidates for 964 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: anybody to get to rot that you're taking. You're just 965 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: going back and saying you would prefer a state a 966 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,280 Speaker 1: straight democracy rather than a republican model. No, I'm saying 967 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: that I would feel an obligation to listen to the 968 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: constituents that I'm representing, and in that particular case, depending 969 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: it was as close as you're describing, it might make 970 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: me lean a different way, and I would feel I 971 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: would feel out people in the district before I made 972 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: a change on a second and third ballot, But I 973 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: think if it's ten percentage points or twenty percentage points, 974 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: I feel a strong obligation represent them. And I feel 975 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: a strong obligation since I'm running and making it very 976 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: clear upfront that I'm running specifically to support Senator Cruz, 977 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: I feel that if I'm elected as a delegate, that 978 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: I have an obligation to those that elected me as 979 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: delegate to represent their views, particularly since I've made it 980 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 1: clear that I'm running to support Senator Cruz. Even if, 981 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: let's say, even if your district goes heavily for candidate 982 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: A and C but not your candidate B, Well, if 983 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: that happens, then the chances are that I'm not going 984 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: to be a delegate. But if I should happen to 985 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: be a delegate, probably true, But with all the confusion, 986 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: you never know and should I be a delegate in 987 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: that situation? Again, I'm running, I've made it clear that 988 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm supporting Senator Cruz, and if I'm elected as delegate, 989 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: just pregut that to the fact that folks elected me 990 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: to support the Senator Lynn. What's your take, Well, I 991 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: think that people need to know. I'm I disagree with 992 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 1: the unbound delegate, and I think it's the guesting game. 993 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that it should be one big question 994 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: mark when you go in there who everyone supports and I, 995 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, God forbid, I ever agree with the Democrats. 996 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 1: But I agree with the fact that they have their 997 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 1: alliance on their slate of delegates, and I think that 998 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 1: we should have the same or we should be bound delegate. 999 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: The the unbound delegate is the big elephant in the room. 1000 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 1: Pardon the ton, but it's so disingenuous to the voters, 1001 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: you know. But I do believe also in in the 1002 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,360 Speaker 1: third congressional, say Donald Trump wins thirty four percent of 1003 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: the vote, shouldn't he at least get one delegate out 1004 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: of that? I mean, yeah, I think he's gonna win. 1005 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 1: It's polling real heavy in favor of Donald Trump as 1006 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: a third congressional But shouldn't he at least get one 1007 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: delegate out of the three? I don't know that would 1008 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,240 Speaker 1: let me ask, maybe Dean, that's a good question for you. 1009 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: You're the cruise supporter again that it falls to the 1010 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 1: to the voters, they are the ones that are making 1011 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: the decision. And we get back to my comment earlier 1012 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: that that's what camping are for, educate the voters, you know, 1013 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: especially especially in closer districts where if they in other words, 1014 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: if they don't place the candidate's name next to the 1015 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 1: delegate and who the delegate is supporting, I think they 1016 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: could make a difference based on voter confusion. And I 1017 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: hate to say it, but Democrats are far more voter 1018 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,919 Speaker 1: friendly in this process than Republicans aren't, at least in Pennsylvania. 1019 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: And I'd like to see the Republicans get their act 1020 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 1: together and fix it because but anyway, John, I wouldn't 1021 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: argue with that. I'm with you. I hate to say it, 1022 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: but I do think the Democrats do have a better 1023 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 1: approach by listing the presidential candidate thanks to the delegate, 1024 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: and that's the change I think Nsylvania Republican Party should make. 1025 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: All Right, you know what you're all, uh. I give 1026 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: you all a lot of credit. It's uh. I'm sure 1027 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 1: a lot of time, effort, work, and probably stress on 1028 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: all of you taking on this position in this role. 1029 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: And I thank you all for your public service and 1030 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: thanks for sharing what's going on. In Pennsylvania with our audience. 1031 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thanks, thank you, thanks for having 1032 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: us on. Thank you you well, you know, facts are 1033 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: stubborn things. John Kasick is a good man, he's an 1034 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: honorable man, but he has no path to the nomination. 1035 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: It's mathematically impossible for John Kasick to become the Republican 1036 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 1: nominee needs more than of the remaining delic You know, 1037 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: he has senator smear and people say, well, you seem 1038 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: to be pointing things out. Yeah, I've said all along. 1039 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a pincushion or a marshmallow. He 1040 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: smeared Ben Carson, he smeared Marco Rubio, he smeared Donald Trump, 1041 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: and now he's smearing me. And the Wall Street Journal 1042 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: even pointed out that he smeared me in an editorial 1043 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: last week. This guy plays that kind of politics. It's down, 1044 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: it's dirty, it's negative, and it's not uplifting. If John 1045 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: Kasick we're not in the race, we would get to 1046 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: twelve thirty seventy. It is possible k SI's role as 1047 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: a spoiler if he pulls just enough votes to let 1048 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: Trump win states with a plurality. I have no good 1049 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: explanation maybe he's auditioning to be Donald Trump's vice president, 1050 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: But Kasi, every vote for Kasik is a vote for 1051 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I live on the on the on the 1052 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: hope side. You know I've already done these things. Okay. 1053 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: See when today voters think that if a politician's lips 1054 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 1: are moving, their lying, so I have, I can show 1055 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: evidence that what I say I've already done and I 1056 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,919 Speaker 1: can accomplish it again both in Washington. Were you kidding? 1057 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: I moved the system down there. You're inferring strongly that 1058 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: Senator Cruz does not have those leadership skills. Well, he 1059 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 1: didn't accomplish anything the whole time he's been in Thank you, 1060 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. All right. That was 1061 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: from the earlier rally of Donald Trump today, and of 1062 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: course sounds and sights and sounds, although you can't see 1063 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: it on radio from the campaign trail. Anyway, We welcome 1064 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: back our three regulars, one representing Ted Cruz. That's D. C. McAllister, 1065 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: senior contributor to the Federalist, Michael Cohen, Executive Vice President, 1066 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: special counsel to Donald J. Trump. I think if if 1067 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: they both weren't married, they'd be going out on a 1068 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: date after the last argument they had. Ron Christie is 1069 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: with us, former special assistant to George Bush and a 1070 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: supporter of John Kasik. Welcome all of you to the program, uh, 1071 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: d C. Let's start with the alliance between kask and 1072 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Cruise from Ted Cruises standpoint. Uh what's the purpose for this? 1073 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: First of all, you're you're tending me to start flirting 1074 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: with Michael on national radio. Is there a problem with that? 1075 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't see a problem. No. Uh. Well, as far 1076 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: as this, well, this is definitely a bold strategic move 1077 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 1: on Ted Cruisers part. And if anyone thinks that this 1078 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: is a big hug for John Kasik or there's any 1079 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of endorsement going on, they haven't watched the Game 1080 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: of Survivor and they don't really understand alliances are that. 1081 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: This is just a recognition of what the reality is. 1082 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: Kasy is in this race, he's affecting it, and Cruise 1083 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: wants to get to that second ballot so that he 1084 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: can win the nomination. All right, So let's go back 1085 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: to when when John Kasig mathematically became out of it 1086 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: and Cruz was saying Kasik should get out, and he said, 1087 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 1: I like John Kasik. He's a great guy, but he 1088 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: has no mathematical chance. And at that point, you know, 1089 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: he made a very strong statement, and now he mathematically 1090 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: is not capable of getting the twelve thirty seven. So 1091 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: let me just remind everybody exactly what he said. Well, 1092 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, facts are stubborn things. Uh. John Kasick is 1093 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 1: a good man, he's an honorable man, but he has 1094 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: no path to the nomination. It's mathematically impossible for John 1095 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 1: Kasick to become the Republican nominee. He needs more than 1096 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 1: of the remaining delegates. And it's worth Rememory kask went 1097 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 1: over seven lost twenty seven states in a row. Then 1098 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: he then he won his home state, and then last 1099 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 1: night he lost again overwhelmingly in both Utah and Arizona. 1100 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: All right, so what is the difference now for Ted Cruz. Well, 1101 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of differences. First of all, 1102 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: I think according to NBC, he has chance or even 1103 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: you see an inn at percentance. It is very unlikely 1104 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: that he'll get the twelve thirty seven, but it's not 1105 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: mathematically impossible. But he does have the eight states necessary 1106 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: to If you look at the bound delegates, it is 1107 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: mathematically impossible. So I think he's somewhere in around a 1108 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: hundred and three or a hundred four percent. But do 1109 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 1: you know what's wan You know what you have here? 1110 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 1: You have Ted Cruz is now run out of options, 1111 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: right he left the state of Pennsylvania so that he could, 1112 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, run off to Indiana. The truth is he's tired. 1113 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: He's feeling the pressure from the millions of people, the 1114 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: silent majority that are all voting for Donald Trump and 1115 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: want Donald Trump to be the Republican nominee. It's just 1116 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 1: it's instead of reading green eggs in him, next time 1117 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 1: you should tell the story of the goose and the gander. 1118 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 1: He he what's what's good for him now is very 1119 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 1: different than what was, of course bad for John Kasik. 1120 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 1: So what is he going to do? What all politicians do? 1121 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 1: They flip flop, do you think want and they do 1122 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: what they need to do in order to get what 1123 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: they want. So now the both a cruising case ex 1124 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,919 Speaker 1: strategy is to prevent Trump from getting to twelve thirty seven. 1125 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Ron Christy canna bring into this look in every state tomorrow. 1126 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 1: I can go through the list of it here Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, 1127 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: Rhode Island, Trump has a significant lead, and uh, you know, 1128 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: we have our posters that we've discussed with earlier and 1129 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 1: they all say the same thing, that it's he could 1130 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: win as many as he could be up to nine 1131 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 1: eighty to a thousand tomorrow, whether time all said and 1132 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: done encountered, he could, but he's still not going to 1133 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,959 Speaker 1: get to twelve thirty seven. And here's the difference, Sean. 1134 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: They're rules, and you and I we've talked about this 1135 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: for the last weeks a couple of weeks. Rules have consequences, 1136 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: and the fact of the matter, Donald Donald Trump, it's 1137 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: near impossible for him to get to that twelve thirty 1138 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: seven figure. So we're gonna go into July and we're 1139 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna have a contested convention and a lot of people 1140 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 1: out there saying, oh, this is so oh we've never 1141 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 1: seen if he ends up tomorrow getting a majority of 1142 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 1: delegates in those five states where he has significant leads, 1143 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,439 Speaker 1: it appears he will. Now the number is probably gonna 1144 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: be down in the forties for him of remaining delegates 1145 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 1: to get to twelve thirty seven. You're saying it's impossible, 1146 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 1: but just the opposite man, that's happening after he won 1147 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 1: ninety two out of ninety five delegates in New York. Correct. 1148 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is that Donald Trump for him 1149 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 1: to run the table, for him to actually have a 1150 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 1: credible chance of getting to twelve thirty seven, he's gonna 1151 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: have to get nearly six. That's but that's assuming that 1152 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: the polls are totally inaccurate for tomorrow. It's it's actually 1153 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,440 Speaker 1: the number of percentage will go down rather dramatically. The 1154 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: number will go down if he sweeps the table tomorrow. 1155 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: But suppose he does. Suppose, hang on one second, suppose 1156 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: he gets still that twelve thirty seven. We've seen this 1157 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: with Abraham Lincoln. We've seen this with Yer old Ford. 1158 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: So you've seen they're predicting that Eisenhower. Even though he's 1159 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 1: up in Indiana, even though he's up nearly, he's he 1160 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: has more the numbers he has in California. The most 1161 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: recent poll, I'll pull it up if you like, but 1162 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 1: the recent, most recent California poll has Trump at forty 1163 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 1: nine crews twenty two. In case of twenty he has 1164 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 1: more than both those its together. But Donald Trump right 1165 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 1: now has a plurality of the votes. He does not 1166 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: have a majority of the votes cast. No, listen, you've 1167 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 1: got to win. You gotta get to twelve thirty seven. 1168 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: No one on this call is denying that, right, nobody. 1169 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: So what we're saying, what Governor Kasik is saying, and 1170 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 1: what Senator Cruz is saying right now, is that it 1171 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: is a mathematic it's almost impossible for him to do it, 1172 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: and people at the delegation storm should have the opportunity 1173 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 1: to vote. But I'm kind of understanding your math. If 1174 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: it's that's going to go down to like half the 1175 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: delegates remaining UM and he has these poll leads in 1176 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: these states, you're just you just seem to be dismissing 1177 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 1: that advantage. I am dismissing that advantage because a I 1178 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: don't think that polls are always accurate and being not 1179 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 1: well inaccurate so far, with Trump, of course, winning UM 1180 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 1: virtually every state where the poll said he would. Hey, Sewan, 1181 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 1: do you know what desperation smells like? It smells like 1182 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: this relationship between cruising kick Right, when you have two 1183 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: candidates Mr Trump was talking about this that have absolutely 1184 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: no path to victory, and the two of them get 1185 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 1: together in order to stop a candidate who's bringing in 1186 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: millions of new voters Republicans, Democrats, Independence alike. It just 1187 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: goes to show you the dysfunctionality in Washington and why 1188 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 1: the silent majority is screaming for an outsider like Donald Trump. 1189 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: All right, So d C, from your perspective, walk us 1190 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: through how this is gonna work. Assuming Look, there's I 1191 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: have literally in front of me a million Pennsylvania polls, 1192 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: a million Indiana poles, a million Delaware, well not a million, 1193 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 1: but a number of Delaware poles, and Maryland poles, Rhode 1194 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 1: Island poles. So assuming that Mr Trump had a good 1195 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,919 Speaker 1: night tomorrow night, tell me how this is gonna work 1196 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 1: going forward to prevent him from getting into twelve thirty seven. 1197 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: From your perspective, the big stop gap is Indiana, and 1198 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: that's why Cruz is focusing all his efforts there. Is 1199 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 1: if he can stop Trump in Indiana, then he will 1200 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 1: most likely stop Trump from getting the twelve seven. And 1201 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 1: this really isn't just about numbers. And I agree with 1202 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: everything that Ron said that you know, this is, you 1203 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 1: know what about statistically Trump to get twelve thirty seven. 1204 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: But there's also a principle here that Cruise and I 1205 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: can speak for Cruise in this and in his supporters 1206 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: that they're fighting for is that it's about the principle 1207 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 1: who is the best candidate to lead this country in 1208 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 1: the right direction. And Crews really believes that that's him, 1209 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 1: and his supporters believe that's him. But don't you think 1210 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 1: all seventeen candidates supporters believe the same thing. Yes, of 1211 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Republican voters don't believe Trump is that personal, Okay, But 1212 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,959 Speaker 1: when you use that math, the math is even less 1213 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 1: for Senator Cruiz though, I mean, that's an argument that 1214 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,919 Speaker 1: kind of comes back and boomerangs on you. Not really, 1215 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: because he's the one who's left, and that he has 1216 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 1: delegates now who want to support him, and that's he's 1217 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: making his case to them that he's the better right, 1218 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: But your percentage of win is is dramatically lower than 1219 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 1: then Donald Trump and John Cases is dramatically lower than 1220 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 1: second ballot. That's when the second ballot have to be 1221 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: decided by those delegates, because they're the ones who ultimately 1222 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: decide on that second ballot who the best candidate is. 1223 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: And this is what we're talking about. This is a 1224 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 1: choice about who is the best person to bring conservative 1225 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,679 Speaker 1: the American people, the Republican Party and the voters, by 1226 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: millions of votes, disagree with what you just said. Now, 1227 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 1: I know you believe that with all your heart, and 1228 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 1: I know Ron Ron is one of my best friends 1229 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,639 Speaker 1: and he supports uh John Kasy. I know he believes 1230 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: it with all his heart. And Michael believes that about 1231 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,640 Speaker 1: his candidate with all his heart. But the reality is 1232 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 1: people have voted in this election, in these caucuses and primaries, 1233 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 1: and they look at it very differently. Sure what they 1234 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: don't realize the Kasick team and the Cruise team their 1235 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: their act, which in you know, in law, would be collusion. 1236 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean, any of the industry that would do this 1237 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: other than the Washington insiders would have a real serious problem. 1238 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 1: And this is this is collusion at its best. The 1239 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,679 Speaker 1: bad part for for the cruise casing match up here 1240 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 1: versus Donald Trump is that they're going to lose, which 1241 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,839 Speaker 1: is just going to make them look even worse because 1242 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: the truth is, for the first time America has a 1243 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 1: candidate who's standing up for the American people, and now 1244 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: the American people for the first time have a voice, 1245 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: and it's resonating throughout Washington. And it's unfortunate that the 1246 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 1: Washington insiders who are petrified that Donald Trump is going 1247 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: to come in because he's going to do what's right, 1248 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 1: not for himself like the standard politician, but for the 1249 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 1: American people. You know, they always say that the real 1250 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 1: poison of politics is money, fame, and power. Trump already 1251 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: has all three of them. So if you call him 1252 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: and he picks up the phone, it's not because he 1253 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 1: owes you anything. It's because he's going to need to 1254 01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 1: do what he needs to. Question again, let me start 1255 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 1: with Ron Christie. At the end of this process, there's 1256 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 1: only going to be one candidate. What I am most 1257 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 1: afraid of is that if you watch Twitter, if you 1258 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: read Twitter, if you read Facebook, if you read any 1259 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 1: social media, I mean, you and I are friends. I 1260 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 1: don't care who you support. Well, you're my friend. That's 1261 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: what I don't know. D C. Well, but I've learned 1262 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: to like d C. McAlister a lot. You know, I've 1263 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 1: known Michael Cohen for years. I um, I can respect 1264 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 1: that other people have different points of view, But I'm 1265 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: really worried that at the end of this process that 1266 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a divided party with a schism, 1267 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 1: and that there's there's gonna be nothing. But you know, 1268 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 1: this whole never Trump, never Cruise, all this nonsense that's 1269 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,480 Speaker 1: going on is not going to be resolved before November, 1270 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 1: and that's gonna lead to Hillary Clinton being president. You 1271 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,800 Speaker 1: and I agree this. All three of these gentlemen who 1272 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 1: remain in this race have got to unify. It's not 1273 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 1: I need to never Trump or I need to never Cruise, 1274 01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 1: it's we need to never allow Clinton, never Hillary. And 1275 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 1: however this process works out, if it's Donald Trump, I'm 1276 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: going to stand behind the nominee of my party. If 1277 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: it's Ted Cruz, I'm standing behind the nominee of my 1278 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,759 Speaker 1: party because I do not want her back in that building. 1279 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,720 Speaker 1: And if that's what it takes in governor case it 1280 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: doesn't win, then that's what we're gonna have to do. 1281 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: Do you see where are you on this? No? I agree, 1282 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,680 Speaker 1: I want to be a defeating Hillary as well. But 1283 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 1: my my concern about Trump is that he has not 1284 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 1: proved himself to be a consistent conservative. Even just this 1285 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 1: week he sided with the Democrats in the North Carolina 1286 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 1: bathroom law. I'm from North Carolina. I don't appreciate that 1287 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 1: he turned on us that way. I actually interviewed him 1288 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 1: about that last week, and I asked him about that, 1289 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 1: and he said, the state should decide. What's your reaction 1290 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 1: to that. But the state did decide, and he criticized 1291 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,560 Speaker 1: them for it, and he actually he stood on the 1292 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,519 Speaker 1: side of Hillary Clinton on that issue, and voters in 1293 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 1: North Carolina came out and voted for Donald Trump. Evangelicals 1294 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 1: came up, people who have been fighting this bathroom issue 1295 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,759 Speaker 1: here and then they get turned on by their candidate. 1296 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,599 Speaker 1: I mean, why are the candidates able to be betraying 1297 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 1: the people, but yet we can't change our votes at 1298 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 1: the convention? I mean, how is that? No? No, listen, 1299 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 1: those are within the rules. I Michael Cohen, I think 1300 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: your position is that you think you're getting a twelve 1301 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: thirty seven. What if the people that do support Ted 1302 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 1: Cruz and the people that do support Kasich still won't 1303 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 1: come on board or the establishment tries to sabotage it 1304 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 1: in some way, which would not shock me. What that Well, 1305 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 1: that's exactly what they're doing right now, is they're sabotaging 1306 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,640 Speaker 1: their own party. They're sabotaging you know, the republic the 1307 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 1: Republican Party and this, and of course they're trying to 1308 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: sabotage Mr Trump's campaign. When he turned around, he said, 1309 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 1: it's for the state to decide. Well, that's his position 1310 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 1: on it. It's for the state to decide, all right, 1311 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 1: quick last word, run. Look, I think Mr Trump does 1312 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,800 Speaker 1: not have a majority of support of the Republican Party. 1313 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,600 Speaker 1: I think Mr Trump is in a spot where he 1314 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,639 Speaker 1: very well could get the nomination, but I think it's 1315 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 1: not going to be before we get to July. I 1316 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,599 Speaker 1: think we're gonna have a contest, contestic ad mention, Sean. 1317 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,720 Speaker 1: Anything can happen. Guys, thank you all for being one 1318 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 1: of us. Really appreciate it. You know what's sad. You 1319 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,599 Speaker 1: know what this election is about. In part I don't 1320 01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: care who you support. There is literally now one in 1321 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:05,080 Speaker 1: five families in the United States where no one in 1322 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 1: the family works at all. That's twenty Now. What have 1323 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 1: I said about the unemployment rate and how phony those 1324 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 1: numbers are and how they only use Washington d C calculators. Well, 1325 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: this backs up everything I've been telling you. Eight one million, 1326 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 1: four thousand families in the US and twenty fifteen of 1327 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: those sixteen million and sixty thousand families have nobody that's 1328 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 1: employed or nineteen point seven percent. Oh, well, the unemployment 1329 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 1: numbers going down, the unemployment numbers going Now there's talk that, 1330 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,080 Speaker 1: in fact, those twenty eight pages may be finally released. 1331 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,560 Speaker 1: In other words, that might implicate the Saudis in the 1332 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 1: nine eleven terrorist attacks against our country. That'll be interesting. 1333 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 1: I feel so bad for Kurt Schilling. Oh, Kurt Chilling 1334 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 1: raised the question of transgendered bathrooms. Now he's fired from ESPN. Oh, 1335 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: it isn't that nice. Remember the the great role model 1336 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 1: Beyonce has described as a role model friend of Barack 1337 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 1: and Michelle Obama. Oh, the role model is now smashing 1338 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: uh tow smitherens. You know, different sets that she's on. 1339 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 1: Isn't that a great? Remember Beyonce better role model? President 1340 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Omama said at a fundraiser. Fundraiser she couldn't be a 1341 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,919 Speaker 1: better role model for my girls because she carries herself 1342 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 1: with such class and poise and has so much talent. Well, 1343 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:41,000 Speaker 1: the Beyonce that just did the anti comp video that one. 1344 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,920 Speaker 1: Do you really want your daughter's dressing like Beyonce? I 1345 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: don't think so, or any rock and roll star for 1346 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 1: that matter, or any pop culture figure for that matter. Anyway, 1347 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,800 Speaker 1: the President. You know our new video, uh from the 1348 01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: visual album Lemonade, shows the Queen know Pop, smashing dozens 1349 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 1: of cars and other objects to smithereens with a baseball bat. 1350 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,120 Speaker 1: Wasn't it that nice? Isn't that great? What a great 1351 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 1: way to raise your kids? There was in the Daily Mail. 1352 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,640 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people talked about Prince. You know, 1353 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say when you have another 1354 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,759 Speaker 1: superstar die from a drug overdose. What can you say 1355 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:30,839 Speaker 1: is you know, if you repeat the behavior of people 1356 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 1: that continually die from drug overdoses, don't be surprised that 1357 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be another one. Sixty minutes last night did 1358 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: another piece on the heroin epidemic in Ohio among children. 1359 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 1: They had this whole board of names of kids that 1360 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 1: are dead from heroin. And most of these kids start 1361 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: apparently with like oxy content and Perkist and Viking in 1362 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: all these pain pills, and then all of a sudden 1363 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 1: they get addicted because it's so were prescribed. And then 1364 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 1: after they become addicted, they can't afford the eighty bucks 1365 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: a pill that it costs on the street, and so 1366 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,360 Speaker 1: they go to the cheaper and better, quote high of 1367 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 1: heroin and then these kids are all dying because these 1368 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, they have no clue what's in the in 1369 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,759 Speaker 1: what they're buying off the streets from these drug dealers, 1370 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 1: and they're all dying anyway. Prince's former drug dealer, according 1371 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,280 Speaker 1: to The Daily Mail, told how the legend spent forty 1372 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,759 Speaker 1: dollars at a time for the drugs that he was taking, 1373 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 1: including fent and all patches. I don't even know what 1374 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 1: the hell. I don't know what any of this is 1375 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,600 Speaker 1: in my entire life now, I do take him a 1376 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 1: fair amount of Ecceterrian extra Strength in the course of 1377 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 1: my die. I have a pretty stressful life, and actually 1378 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,719 Speaker 1: one works. I take one. I don't take two unless 1379 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 1: I really have an awful headache, but as soon as 1380 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,480 Speaker 1: I feel a headache coming on, I take one Etceterrian 1381 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 1: extra Strength or Migraine etcetera. All right, it works for me. 1382 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:02,639 Speaker 1: A cup of coffee, maybe coke, little caffeine does the trick. 1383 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 1: For Hannity, I've never taken a vicodin. I've never taken 1384 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,680 Speaker 1: a percoset. I've never taken an OxyContin. Because I know 1385 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 1: too many people, doctors, lawyers, professional people. They go for 1386 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 1: surgery and they come out drug addicts. It's horrible. And 1387 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 1: yet per capita in uh not Cleveland, Columbus, Ohio, they 1388 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,720 Speaker 1: had a report they're giving out six hundred some odd 1389 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,600 Speaker 1: per capita oxy content pills for every person in the 1390 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 1: in the population in the city. We're creating a nation 1391 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,400 Speaker 1: of drug addicts. And I'm not against drugs. Drugs can 1392 01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:48,200 Speaker 1: say lower our blood pressure lower or cholesterol. Uh, anti 1393 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 1: rejection drugs if you have some type of you know, 1394 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,479 Speaker 1: if you have got kidney transplant or whatever. You know, 1395 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 1: drugs take away pain. Good, that's fine. You're you're dying. 1396 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 1: You get your morphine drip, and you die from your 1397 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 1: morphine drip. Nobody ever tells you that's what it does. 1398 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 1: It literally depresses your breathing to the point you die 1399 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 1: and you're wiped out. Oh no, no, we're just controlling 1400 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 1: pain b us. They're not controlling. But you see, if 1401 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: somebody's on a morphine drip, that's on a death trip. 1402 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,760 Speaker 1: That's what I call it. Any right, So I mean, 1403 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 1: isn't any surprise if Prince is spending forty dollars at 1404 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 1: a time on drugs, you can pretty well predict he's 1405 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna die at some point. It's sad, it's tragic. I 1406 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 1: was never a fan of his music. I don't want 1407 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:39,759 Speaker 1: people anybody dying of a drug overdose. Look at Michael Jackson, 1408 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,680 Speaker 1: the weirdo that he became. It's it's you know, we 1409 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,120 Speaker 1: have a little milk and cookies and and I lay 1410 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 1: him in bed and tuck him in and we light 1411 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 1: of fire. It's charming, it's trying. The whole world ought 1412 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 1: to do it. Really, I need a little milk to 1413 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,040 Speaker 1: go to sleep. Propafall that's the stuff that they give 1414 01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,160 Speaker 1: you when I have had a call on oscopy. I 1415 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 1: s no. They literally you count to five, They stick 1416 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 1: this thing in your own five three poom out. Next 1417 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: thing you do is you wake up. And I'm telling, well, 1418 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 1: did I did I? Did I have anything in there? 1419 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,640 Speaker 1: Was it clean? Any polyps? That's what I'm screaming at 1420 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,439 Speaker 1: the doctor. But when you say bad dead thinking sexual sexually, 1421 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 1: that's sexual. It's not sexual. We're going to sleep. Took 1422 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 1: them in music on. It's a little story till I 1423 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 1: read the very sweet, put the fireplace on, give hot milk, 1424 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 1: cookies sweet. The whole world should do. What's wrong with 1425 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 1: sharing a love? You don't sleep with your kids or 1426 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 1: some other kids who needs a love. They're not your kids. 1427 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 1: Oh what what happened? How many times have you heard 1428 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 1: me say on this program? This is probably the oddest 1429 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 1: thing you'll hear from somebody that's in the public eye. 1430 01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:03,559 Speaker 1: Fame is not is not I repeat, is not healthy. 1431 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,440 Speaker 1: Just don't It's not natural. It's not healthy. You become entitled, 1432 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 1: your ego becomes massive and out of control. Why are 1433 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 1: you smiling at me like I'm the guilty party here? 1434 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,679 Speaker 1: Don't even start you know what? You know? What prevented 1435 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 1: me from from becoming a total nutcase is number one? 1436 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,760 Speaker 1: Two decades of real work, all right, hands on contracting, 1437 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 1: hands on restaurant work, and the other thing. Although I'm 1438 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 1: not the best Christian, I don't like to preach christian 1439 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,599 Speaker 1: but knowing that Jesus exists, it's the only thing that 1440 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 1: keeps me on the straight now guilty irish conscience, and 1441 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,280 Speaker 1: that's it. Otherwise I'd be in deep, deep trouble from 1442 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: every day like I was as a kid. All right, 1443 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,679 Speaker 1: let's get to our phones. Helen is in Kansas City, Missouri, 1444 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 1: k MBZ. What's up, Helen? How are you? I'm good? 1445 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 1: What's going On, How is your Strida golf game? How 1446 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,080 Speaker 1: did you know I was playing golf on Friday because 1447 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 1: I was listening all last weeks when you were there 1448 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,760 Speaker 1: not working. So Dr Loudon gave up that I was 1449 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 1: playing golf on Friday. That's what they did. Yeah, you know. 1450 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,840 Speaker 1: I actually play more in my backyard because I don't 1451 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 1: have enough time to play. I know that sounds stupid, 1452 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 1: but you know it takes like even if you go 1453 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,360 Speaker 1: at seven in the morning, which is the only time 1454 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: I want to play, because I can't stand waiting at 1455 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: every hole. It's awful. Yeah, I know, so I go. 1456 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 1: I want to race her. I can finish around in 1457 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 1: two and a half hours. Shocking that you don't like waiting, No, 1458 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 1: I hate. I am very impatient. I can't believe it. 1459 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't right. But yesterday when the news came out 1460 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,639 Speaker 1: about Bill Cook not wanting to support Trump or Cruise 1461 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,559 Speaker 1: and that Hillary might make a better president, I kept 1462 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 1: thinking I'm in a nightmare and I won't wake up, 1463 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 1: although I kind of well, I don't agree about Cruise 1464 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: because I can't see him anyway. And then I woke 1465 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,720 Speaker 1: up this morning and heard about this alliance between Case 1466 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 1: that and Cruise, and I remember thinking, I'm not in 1467 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,639 Speaker 1: my mare, I'm in an alternate reality. Look, I don't 1468 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 1: think there's any doubt. Look, the bottom line is, Look, 1469 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:15,439 Speaker 1: nobody's won. Trump is the the he is the leader 1470 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 1: by far right. Now Tomorrow is going to tell a 1471 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 1: very big part of the story. In other words, does 1472 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: he have a very good shot at getting a twelve 1473 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 1: thirty seven By all indications and poles, He's expected to 1474 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 1: have a good day tomorrow. And I think, you know, 1475 01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 1: the mission of many is to prevent him from getting 1476 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 1: the twelve thirty seven. And I even believe this. I'll 1477 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,840 Speaker 1: take it a step further. I believe there are Republicans 1478 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,759 Speaker 1: that hope and pray that, whether it's Cruise or Trump, 1479 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 1: that they lose because establishment Republicans want to be able 1480 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,200 Speaker 1: to stick their middle fingers in the face of the 1481 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,120 Speaker 1: voters and say, see, we're smarter than you. And there 1482 01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,360 Speaker 1: and there will be people in the Republican establishment that 1483 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:02,520 Speaker 1: will sabotage whoever the candidate is. Oh exactly, I absolutely 1484 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,920 Speaker 1: believe that. But you know what the bottom line is, 1485 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,559 Speaker 1: you get to decide. It's we the people, all right, Helen, 1486 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. Nick is an Oregon. Nick is 1487 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: mad at me? What's up? Nick? Are you Seann? I'm 1488 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 1: having mad at thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Um. 1489 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 1: I've been following a discussion on a delegate issue. Take 1490 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,640 Speaker 1: off my speaker. You gotta take it off where you're 1491 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,719 Speaker 1: getting a neck cof go ahead. Sorry, I'll sid that again. 1492 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 1: I've been following you a discussion on the delegate issue, 1493 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,160 Speaker 1: and I believe your motives are honorable and true, but 1494 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm convinced they're helping you further the divide between the 1495 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Trump supporters and all of us who support candidates another 1496 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,360 Speaker 1: candidate in the race. I realize you've got a valid 1497 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,559 Speaker 1: point that it would be less confusing for the average 1498 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,120 Speaker 1: voter to have all the states choose for a couple 1499 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,719 Speaker 1: of primary models. I think that's genius. Well, I said 1500 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 1: primary or caucus. I said, I said proportional or or 1501 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,720 Speaker 1: winner take all. Everybody knows the rules ahead of time. 1502 01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 1: And I said, I think every delegate should be bound 1503 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 1: because at least on the first ballot, because they should 1504 01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 1: represent the people at least once I and I absolutely 1505 01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,840 Speaker 1: agree with you, But from a person that supports another 1506 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,639 Speaker 1: individual and in the race, I just think we should 1507 01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,719 Speaker 1: postpone it at this point, and it might encourage Trump 1508 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,080 Speaker 1: to tone down the rhetoric. What are you eating for lunch? 1509 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,639 Speaker 1: By the way, it sounds like you're eating I want 1510 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,400 Speaker 1: to caught me with my mouth full. I'm sorry. It's 1511 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,840 Speaker 1: a taco Is it delicious? Is it is? It is 1512 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 1: a taco bell. So you're on you're eating tacos, You're 1513 01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 1: having on the speaker phone, and you know this isn't 1514 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 1: a very good call because of that, but go ahead, 1515 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,599 Speaker 1: you keep going. I'm I'm sorry, I'm incompetent. I didn't 1516 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:42,639 Speaker 1: I was you don't I love tacos too. Don't worry 1517 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,160 Speaker 1: about it, yep. Anyway, I just think that if we 1518 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:50,160 Speaker 1: would postpone the discussion, especially from a man of I mean, 1519 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,479 Speaker 1: you've got tons of listeners, it might encourage Donald Trump 1520 01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,679 Speaker 1: to tone down the rhetoric and help voters supporting other 1521 01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,280 Speaker 1: candidates should he become the nominee. That it makes would 1522 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,679 Speaker 1: make it easier for us to vote for him, because, 1523 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,640 Speaker 1: quite frankly, not you. I'm getting tired of listening to 1524 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,639 Speaker 1: him cry of a rigged election, and then you combine 1525 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 1: that with his name calling of other delegates supporting men 1526 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,639 Speaker 1: and women using the bathroom of their choice, supporting single 1527 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,599 Speaker 1: pair of universal healthcare, higher taxes on the wealthy. Well, 1528 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 1: you're wrong on the health care issue, because I've interviewed 1529 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,160 Speaker 1: him a bunch of times. Listen, I don't care who 1530 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,800 Speaker 1: you vote for. I really don't. The only thing that 1531 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 1: I think I learned in the last week that really 1532 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 1: troubles me about the delegate issue is that if you 1533 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,679 Speaker 1: want a delegate to switch on the second ballot, guess 1534 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,960 Speaker 1: what you can play the pay for the airfare, you 1535 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,120 Speaker 1: can pay for their hotel. You can take them out 1536 01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,479 Speaker 1: to expensive steak dinners. I don't like that at all, 1537 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,720 Speaker 1: or tacos in your case, a taco I think would 1538 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 1: probably do it for you. And uh but I don't 1539 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 1: like that part of it. And my job is to 1540 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 1: tell the audience everything that I know, and that's all 1541 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing. Anyway. I appreciate you got your tacle. Put 1542 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,479 Speaker 1: a little salt and a little I like hot sauce 1543 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,160 Speaker 1: on mine. I hope you like a little hots also, 1544 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 1: and then may be a little tabasco