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Speaker 2: We've got Lions team reporter Danny Rodgers joining us in

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Speaker 2: Martin game of Big High five today. That's a big one.

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Speaker 2: We're going to keep you update on all the football

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Speaker 2: action today because buckle up, you're in for a fun one.

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Speaker 2: Three NFL games, a lot of bowl games going on today.

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Speaker 3: But the Chargers absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Dominating Charger Patriots, and it looks like they're going to

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Speaker 2: be locking up that wildcard spot?

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Speaker 3: Is it over? Did it finally? Do the game finish?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Chargers of officially lock up the wildcard spot

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Speaker 2: with the win today. A huge turnaround from their season

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Speaker 2: last year. So congrats to first year head coach Jim

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh who completely turned this team around, created a culture.

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert passed Peyton Manning today for most passing yards

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Speaker 2: in your first five seasons. Like he has just been unbelievable, incredible.

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Speaker 2: So that means the last AFC wildcard spot is kind

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Speaker 2: of still open. The Broncos are about to start and

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Speaker 2: currently are in that seventh spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if they win, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have Carmen kind of explain that she's been going

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Speaker 2: through like the possibilities if they win today, because the

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Speaker 2: Chargers won, they can lock up that other wildcard spot.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Well, because they're playing the Cincinnati Bengals, who are also

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Speaker 5: still technically alive.

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Speaker 4: I believe they have about four percent.

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Speaker 3: Yes yeah, Colts Dolphins, Bangs.

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Speaker 5: Colts, Dolphins, Bengals and in Broncos now all yes, buying

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Speaker 5: for that wildcard spot. But because the Chargers won, now

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Speaker 5: it does a winning in scenario because the Broncos are

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Speaker 4: So by doing a process.

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Speaker 5: Of elimination, that the Broncos are now playing a win

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Speaker 5: still alive, and if they win this game, they will

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Speaker 5: their their playoff chances will still be there, as will

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Speaker 5: both of those teams are currently going to be without

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Speaker 2: So it really feels like it's coming down to this

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Speaker 2: kind of beginning that whole shuffle for that wildcard spot.

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Speaker 2: But like three really important games today because then you

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Speaker 2: it's the only way they're really getting into a playoff

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Speaker 5: I'm excited for this Bengals Broncos game because, like I

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Speaker 4: It's been a so you think they're like I, I

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Speaker 2: You can't Joey be well, because Joey's been good. He's

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Speaker 5: And and it's been a little bit too little, too late.

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Speaker 5: But the Bengals defense has gotten a lot better. Terry

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Speaker 5: I do think that these two teams match up pretty

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Speaker 5: well when you look at all, Right, the Bengals defense

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Speaker 5: what bo Nix has done in Denver, and he hasn't

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Speaker 5: He has the sixth lowest downfield at ten percentage completion. Okay,

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Speaker 5: So the Bengals shouldn't have to necessarily worry about that

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Speaker 5: taking the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: WHOA I know, because there's already happening, so we don't

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Speaker 3: have it in our life. They're at into the show.

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Speaker 4: Plus they're at home, yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: Scoring get a rookie quarterback defense finally picking up.

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Speaker 4: They're capable of scoring a ton of points.

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Speaker 5: They've been doing that all season long age their defense

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Speaker 5: They've been really good. They've had a dominant defense. So

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Speaker 2: Be Huyton really developing Bonix and he's coming into his own.

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Speaker 5: He's doing good, like solid necessarily. The reason they're winning games.

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Speaker 5: They're winning game is because of this defense. So everything

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Speaker 5: office a lot. I know that the Bengals have been

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Speaker 5: concern there too, But this really hinges on the Broncos defense,

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Speaker 3: So you're saying there's a chance, I've been saying there's

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Speaker 3: a chance.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to quit, okay so much. They are

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Speaker 2: They really are, and Chase really are.

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Speaker 4: That connection in general is I think the best in

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Speaker 2: It's it's like one of those like, oh yeah, that

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Speaker 2: makes sense. Okay, But let's talk about the number one

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Speaker 2: seed in the AFC, because on Christmas, the chief clinched

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody can stop the Chiefs. They won't

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Speaker 3: Thing that could happen to them.

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Speaker 2: Plus you have Mahomes who is expecting to have his

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Speaker 5: The one seed.

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Speaker 3: Now we can go have the baby. Like I They're

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Speaker 2: Just mentally in such a good place. They've been here before.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, any of the guys that are

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Speaker 2: get back. They have the best player in the league,

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Speaker 2: it's it's hard to find reasons to doubt this team.

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Speaker 2: On top of having, like I said, the best player,

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Speaker 3: And they're going to be rested.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Chris Jones didn't play this last game.

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Speaker 5: You need him back, yes, But and regardless I've been

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Speaker 5: saying that on the macro level, I will not bet

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Speaker 4: I have him in the super Bowl. That is I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but we can't deny what the AFC has become

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Speaker 5: But I think the better question, or the better conversation

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Speaker 5: the Kansas City's locked that up. So now you clinched

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Speaker 5: now consider resting all your starters on your tak off

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Speaker 5: AFC like, there's not bearing on seating, there's not any

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Speaker 5: the AFC. There's nothing that is really interesting about the

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Speaker 5: Bill's last two games. So do you then consider resting

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen. Do you consider resting some of your starters?

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Speaker 5: If you're the Buffalo Bills, I think you would. And

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Speaker 5: same setup as the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Do okay.

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Speaker 5: The first round by but you're going to have a

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Speaker 5: significant amount of rest. You're not as banged up as

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is relatively healthy.

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Speaker 5: He still playing incredible football except for this last week

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Speaker 2: Now that we have, I'm like, all right, there's been

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Speaker 3: Yeah, A complete team.

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Speaker 5: Like it's just like game they ran into the teams

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Speaker 3: Do you think Russ has earned a contract for next year?

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Speaker 4: We're we don't. We don't need to.

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Speaker 5: That's that's a that's a conversation for a different time.

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Speaker 2: Playoffs right now, we'll say that, Okay, what he does in.

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Speaker 4: The playoffs is going to matter a lot.

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Speaker 5: Done with the Christmas the Christmas mandate, Yes, ye, yes.

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Speaker 8: On December twenty fifth, all grit, You're all granted a

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Speaker 2: All right, you guys, three more days until the college

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Speaker 3: Three more days New Year's Eve?

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Speaker 3: Three more days.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we're gonna kind of run through the matchups

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Speaker 2: game one on New Year's Eve, the Fiesta Bowl Penn

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Speaker 2: State against Boise State. Penn State is a heavy favorite

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Speaker 2: Kind of a weird matchup. Like, Boise States had a

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Speaker 3: It's going to be tough.

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Speaker 2: We saw Pence absolutely crush SMU in the first round.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you're going off transitive property here, Boise State

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Speaker 4: Maybe we're not enough credit.

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Speaker 5: Okay, because that's how this works, guys, the transitive property

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Speaker 5: He's huge and fast and defies the laws of physics

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Speaker 5: Second of all, with an expanded playoff like we've had.

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Speaker 5: I'm still gonna take Penn stay same.

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Speaker 3: However, it's going to be closer than anything.

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Speaker 3: Texas A huge.

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Speaker 3: It's been a Cinderella season already for ASU. You did

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Speaker 5: I mean I realized this is this is part of

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Speaker 5: being a fan that I don't get to do with

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Speaker 5: the NFL, but I will do in college football. Which

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Speaker 5: is why I still watch it so religiously, is because

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Speaker 5: I don't have to be rational. I have to say, oh, well,

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Speaker 5: you know this is not gonna have a Listen, I

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Speaker 5: get it realistic. The professional side of my brain it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Texas doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Really have a shot, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 5: The lizard part of my brain that got fried in

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Speaker 5: the sun all four and a half years I was

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Speaker 5: at Arizona State absolutely believes that there's.

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Speaker 4: A chance here.

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Speaker 3: The delusional hope Texas.

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Speaker 5: Listen, Texas, there's it's not as if that they don't

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Speaker 5: have faults, and it's not as if that they haven't

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Speaker 5: had some inconsistencies this year. And again we're talking about

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Speaker 5: Ashton genty being the difference for Boise State.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh, My guy, Cam Skataboo is like he is.

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Speaker 5: He finished fifth in high has been voting, which obviously

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Speaker 5: there's a huge drop off from the top four to

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Speaker 5: the fifth. He wasn't even invited to New York that flight.

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Speaker 5: My dude has been building him Baltimore materiation. He has

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Speaker 5: an increb like. He's been so incredibly productive for the

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Speaker 5: ASU offense. He has been the ASU offense. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: that's that's not a slight to go with our quarterback

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Speaker 5: or any of their receivers. But km's Kataboo is going

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Speaker 5: to give ASU a fighting chance.

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Speaker 4: And I believe in my guy.

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Speaker 3: There you go. Okay, I'm going with Texas.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to these last two real quick, Rose Bull

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Speaker 2: Ohio State versus Oregon, this is who This is the

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Speaker 2: game I am so excited for. This was a fantastic

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Speaker 2: game during the regular season when they met Cox.

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Speaker 4: So if you didn't see it, you're forgiven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ohio State is a two and a half point favorite,

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Speaker 2: even though Oregon beat them during the regular season, So

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Speaker 2: I think that's going to give Orgon a little more

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Speaker 2: added motivation permanent between two.

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Speaker 4: Big Ten teams.

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Speaker 5: I'm ready to claim conference periority right now with Big Ten.

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Speaker 5: I also went to Northwestern guys. That's why I can

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Speaker 5: claim the Big Ten. This is what happens when they

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Speaker 5: have eighteen teams. You have a major bowl game. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you playoff game. Yeah between two Big Ten teamss. We've

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Speaker 5: already played each other. But I mean Oregon beat Ohio

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Speaker 5: State by one point last one back in Week five, yep,

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Speaker 5: but they're playing better ball down the stretch. And I

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Speaker 5: mean Ohio State somehow is still just reeling from I mean,

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Speaker 5: Michigan is in their head to an incredible degree, but

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Speaker 5: like they are just reeling from that loss. Still, Oregon

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Speaker 5: beat Penn State forty five thirty seven in the Big

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Speaker 5: Ten Championship, So I'm still gonna take Oregon.

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Speaker 3: I'm also taking Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last one Sugar Bowl Notre Dame against Georgia a

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Speaker 2: little scary for Georgia because they won't have their quarterback

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Speaker 2: Carson Beck. He got hurt in the SEC Championship game,

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Speaker 2: but Gunner Stockton helped them rally from that like six

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Speaker 2: three halftime deficit to beat Texas in the SEC Championship.

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Speaker 5: Georgia is that they recruit like hell ye, like it's

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Speaker 5: pretty first career start.

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Speaker 4: You don't have Carson back, but first career start.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but like it was gonna happen sooner e he

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Speaker 5: uh yeah, so I'm sugar Bowl like Notre Dames. Defense

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Speaker 5: is really good though, and uh, I really have a

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Speaker 5: safety that I really can they have and and Jeremiah

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Speaker 5: Love They're running back fantastic too, And there's gonna be

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Speaker 5: a close one.

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Speaker 4: I saw.

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Speaker 5: I'm still taking Georgia though. Okay, as much as I sorry,

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Speaker 5: Mike gold Junior, one of my best dies went to

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Speaker 5: guy we all know, Mike gold Junior.

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Speaker 2: Sorry Mike, we all got it all right.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's check out with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

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Speaker 9: Well, the Chargers have locked up a playoff spot.

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Speaker 10: There will be a wildcard team in Jim Hartballs first

517
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Speaker 10: year team improved to ten and six, five and three

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Speaker 10: on the road today. Today's victim was the new of

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Speaker 10: the Patriots, forty to seven.

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Speaker 9: The final score John Robert.

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Speaker 10: Pardon wild Yeah, it was, I mean, well, after you

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Speaker 10: started watching, it was like this Patriot that this team's

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Speaker 10: I can't believe that they kept there, so, I mean

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Speaker 10: especially to your point, Carmon.

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Speaker 5: Because he did leave the game.

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Speaker 10: In the first half, went to the blue tent, went

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Speaker 10: to the locker room, came back out, but to no avail,

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Speaker 10: no second half points, so he could have stayed in

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Speaker 10: the locker room at that rate.

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Speaker 9: Twelve for twenty two.

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Speaker 10: Drake May finished with one seventeen through the air and

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Speaker 10: a touchdown pass to the Mario Douglas. Lad McConkie had

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Speaker 10: two touchdowns ninety four yards, receiving three touchdowns for Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 9: Again, most of the starters.

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Speaker 10: Were out of there by the fourth quarter. The Panthers

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Speaker 10: put Cuba Hubbard on IR with a calf strain. Dolphins

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Speaker 10: downgraded quarterback to tunk about what had a doubtful with a

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Speaker 10: hip injury. Tyler Huntley will get the start against the

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Speaker 10: Browns if Tua cannot play. Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson will

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Speaker 10: not play with foot and back soreness. Joe Flacco going

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Speaker 10: against the Giants. Tony Pollard has the flu. Tennessee running

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Speaker 10: back his status in jeopardy for Sunday's game at Jacksonville,

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Speaker 10: and Jalen Hurst did not clear a concussion protocol enough

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Speaker 10: time to play quarterback for the Eagles against Dallas on Sunday.

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Speaker 10: Ball Hall of Fame first time finalists for the class

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Speaker 10: of twenty twenty five are Eli Manningterrell Suggs, Luke Keighley,

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Speaker 10: Marshall Yonda, and Adam Dennit Terry. In college football, the

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Speaker 10: Yukon Huskies beat North Carolina twenty seven to fourteen, and

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Speaker 10: the Fenway Bowl Nebrass could beat Boston College twenty to

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Speaker 10: fifteen and the Penstripe Bowl.

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Speaker 9: Right now on the Pop tar Bulls.

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Speaker 10: Tied between Iowa State and Miami twenty one apiece and

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Speaker 10: the Best Marketing in College Football twelve thirty left in

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Speaker 10: the first half.

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Speaker 5: I have a box on the way telling me right

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Speaker 5: now and I cannot wait. Pop Terry, Popterars, Bull set

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Speaker 5: me pop Tarts.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, I haven't gotten them yet. You know you're

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Speaker 4: a little delayed.

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Speaker 10: But we need to talk because you get I want

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Speaker 10: to get sent cool stuff too.

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Speaker 9: I'm about to say, can I meet your friends?

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Speaker 10: TCU They thirty four to nothing, laid over Louisiana and

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Speaker 10: the New Mexico Bowl six three left in the third quarter.

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Speaker 10: There you just heard the lady say Carson Back declare

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Speaker 10: for the NFL draft Georgia quarterback he had Tommy John

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Speaker 10: surgery on his throwing arm last week, and Bucks point

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Speaker 10: guard dam Lillard. He's set to play today against the Bulls.

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Speaker 10: He's missed the last four games. The Atlanta Hawks having

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Speaker 10: eighty one to seventy two lead over the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 9: With four thirty four left in the third quarter. Alex

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Speaker 9: back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Martin. You're listening to Fox Football Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 2: Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the tark dot Com studios in Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 2: it is time for our first guest, Lions team reporter

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Speaker 2: friend of the show, Danny Rogers.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 6: Hey lady, thanks for having me. I'm glad this one

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Speaker 6: finally worked out.

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Speaker 5: I know we're making you work on Saturday, despite the

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Speaker 5: fact you don't have college football today and you've got

583
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Speaker 5: college trouble every other day every other Saturday in this season.

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Speaker 5: My girl is booked and busy.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you being here, Danny.

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Speaker 2: And with just two games left, the Lions have still

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Speaker 2: not locked up the division or the one seed in

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Speaker 2: the NFC. This has been an epic division battle for

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Speaker 2: the top. What's it going to take for Detroit to

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Speaker 2: hold on and claim that top spot and get to

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Speaker 2: buy first off.

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Speaker 6: To get this dang division once he locked up has

593
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Speaker 6: been exhausting. If you would have told us coming in

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Speaker 6: even thirteen wins wouldn't do it, I would have already

595
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Speaker 6: been tired before the season started.

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Speaker 3: But this is so cliche, but they just have to keep.

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Speaker 6: Playing Detroit football, and it's really gritty, creative football. It's

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Speaker 6: a next man up mentality as well. God there's been

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Speaker 6: upwards of twenty guys put on IR this season, so

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Speaker 6: the fact that they're still in the hunt for that

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Speaker 6: one seed and that division title is pretty incredible. I

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Speaker 6: know they keep wanting to put Kevin o'connall up for

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Speaker 6: head coach of the Year and all that. That's fine,

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Speaker 6: that's great, but like, come on, we'll get what this

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Speaker 6: roster has had to do with all the injuries, and

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Speaker 6: they're still a high probability Lions get the one seed.

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Speaker 6: So I'm impressed by Dan Campbell and everyone in that

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Speaker 6: building right now.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've been saying it's kind of between Kevin

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Speaker 5: O'Connell and mcdc, but I also think as a I

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Speaker 5: don't know if it's consolation prize, but Aaron's Glen deserves

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Speaker 5: Coordinator of the Year, Assistant of the Year. I mean,

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Speaker 5: we talk a lot about this Detroit offense for good reason.

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Speaker 5: We'll get there in a second, but I need to

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Speaker 5: hear what you've seen from age just in the way

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Speaker 5: that he has had to make up for all of

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Speaker 5: these incredible losses, all of these guys going down at

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Speaker 5: all three levels of the defense at different times.

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Speaker 4: Starting with Aiden Hutchinson all the way back in week six.

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Speaker 5: What have you seen from Aaron Glenn that has allowed

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Speaker 5: him to make up for and kind of hide all

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Speaker 5: of these deficiencies that they've had due to injury?

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Speaker 6: A stone cold killer. Yeah, that man like he's out

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Speaker 6: for blood and you can tell every time he stepped

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Speaker 6: to the podium and he talks and the way he coaches.

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Speaker 6: But one thing that that was really interesting a couple

627
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Speaker 6: of weeks ago when they had to bring in Jamal Adams,

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Speaker 6: Kwan Alexander and a few more guys help bolster the game.

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Speaker 4: I just like bodies.

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Speaker 6: Yes, We're like, how are they all gonna go in

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Speaker 6: and and contribute this weekend? How do you get everyone

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Speaker 6: up to speed. And the biggest key is they're like, look,

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Speaker 6: we do not care if they know thee If they

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Speaker 6: know the playbook, like they can, they have a good

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Speaker 6: idea of what scheme is. They don't have to know

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Speaker 6: every play. What they need to know is how to

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Speaker 6: play Detroit football. So how to clamp down upfront, how

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Speaker 6: gritty and physical and tough those guys are up along

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Speaker 6: the defensive line and not literally you see it every

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Speaker 6: play with Brian Branch, that toughness that trickles all the

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Speaker 6: way to the secondary. So if you understand how this

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00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 6: defense looks and how they want you to play, you're

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Speaker 6: going to be fine. And I mean Brad Holmes is

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Speaker 6: the GM of the year because he keeps plus me

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Speaker 6: guys off practice squads to come join these Lions and

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Speaker 6: they've been fitting in pretty well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, whoever, your pro scouts are cats off to them,

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Speaker 5: break them some cookies for me or something.

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Speaker 7: YEP, I agree.

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Speaker 2: So Aiden Hutchinson was hopeful that he might be able

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Speaker 2: to make a return the season if the lines made

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Speaker 2: a deep playoff runt is there an update on his

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Speaker 2: recovery and can he's still make it back? At some

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Speaker 2: point during the postseason.

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Speaker 6: Oh gosh, you guys know, I'm I'm no doctor. God.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we've seen him go on podcasts. You know

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Speaker 6: that's not Lions or not in the sports world. It's

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Speaker 6: Taylor Latner's podcast. They're really good friends. And he still

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Speaker 6: says he's on track to come back if if Lions

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Speaker 6: making deep run in the playoffs and get to the

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Speaker 6: super Bowl. That's the only update we've gotten. It's not

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Speaker 6: something we suck up or ask about. Everything I'm I have.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to speculate on any of it. I

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Speaker 6: think it was extremely difficult to come back and perform

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Speaker 6: at the level that he would want to though well

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Speaker 6: that they.

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Speaker 3: Need him to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not. I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: learn anything past in Hutchinson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I saw it with the Buccaneers when Vidavea came back

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Speaker 5: two games before the Super Bowl in the postseason, when

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Speaker 5: they when they won the Super Bowl. The twenty twenty season,

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Speaker 5: Viavea came back in the NFC Championship Game and was

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Speaker 5: it absolute monster, played over half the snaps. None of

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Speaker 5: us thought that he was gonna be able to do it.

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Speaker 5: So stranger things have happened. Danny if you need some

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Speaker 5: optimism here.

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Speaker 6: Optimism, Yeah, listen, I get it.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Rather see nothing and then like be happy and surprise

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Speaker 2: when and if it happens.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 5: I do want to get to the offense real quick, though, Danny,

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Speaker 5: because I mean the creativity that we've seen. I keep

686
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 5: referring to Ben Johnson as a petty king because he

687
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Speaker 5: just seems to take what other teams do well and

688
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: tell them I can do it better than you. Every

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Speaker 5: single game we saw the Lions release the video from

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Speaker 5: the mid the micd up from the fumble mumble stumble whatever?

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Speaker 5: What did you hear from the guys leading up to

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Speaker 5: that game? And then afterwards after it all worked.

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Speaker 6: Out, It was hilarious. Nothing they obviously they didn't tell

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Speaker 6: us anything lean up to the game. But I got

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Speaker 6: to Mirror Gibbs right after, who was also a decoy.

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Speaker 4: It was rolled on the ground and he was fantastic.

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Speaker 6: He's the one that gave it away to everyone because

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Speaker 6: that didn't like he got slow, get up, please get

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Speaker 6: off the ground right now. That was everyone's thought, We're like,

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Speaker 6: what is he doing down there? But it decoyed? What

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Speaker 6: fifty he told me after the game, It was fifty four.

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Speaker 6: I think that was the number decoyed that defender long

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Speaker 6: enough for sam Laforida to be open. So it all worked.

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Speaker 6: It was funny they didn't. I don't know because right

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Speaker 6: when I posted, when I interviewed john I don't know

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Speaker 6: if he caught on to how quickly we all we

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Speaker 6: all caught on right to the fact that it was

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Speaker 6: a fake trip. But he was cracking up hysterically. They're

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Speaker 6: just so glad it worked. Ben Johnson, I haven't seen

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Speaker 6: him since that play in the building. I cannot wait

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Speaker 6: to call him out on his dad moves.

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Speaker 2: And that the celebration after, Like, oh my god, how

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Speaker 2: I hire the vibes with this team.

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Speaker 3: It just looks like everyone's having such.

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Speaker 5: Av that audacity. You can do whatever you want, Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna tell him, Yeah, he's a petty dad

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Speaker 6: with those moves, and I will tell him that. I

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Speaker 6: hope he hears this, but yeah, it's it's been fun.

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Speaker 6: It's just no one is being able to just be

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Speaker 6: this creative in an offense at this high of an

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Speaker 6: execution rate in the lines right now, and it's freaking

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Speaker 6: awesome to watch.

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Speaker 2: I love that are the vibes as high as they

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Speaker 2: look on screen like in real life?

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Speaker 6: Are they?

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Speaker 3: What are the vibes as high.

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Speaker 2: Like in real life as they look like for us

728
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Speaker 2: watching like them on the sidelines and on screen?

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like I even probably told Carmen this,

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Speaker 6: what three and a half seasons ago, when we had

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Speaker 6: only won three games. I'm like, it's still is. It's

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Speaker 6: fun to come into work every day like that never

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Speaker 6: changed once, and that's when you knew that things were

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Speaker 6: going in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 3: Danny.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on and giving all

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Speaker 2: that insight and have so much fun this weekend.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you, ladies. You're gratching it.

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Speaker 4: Hope see you soon. Bye, Danny, see you do.

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Speaker 5: Bye.

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Speaker 2: All right when we come back, you guys, the dudes

745
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: and the don'ts in sports. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Kurr here

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Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from the tark

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending

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Speaker 2: your Saturday afternoon with CARMEI and me. It is time,

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Speaker 2: you guys for the dues and the domes in sports.

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Speaker 6: Highlight.

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Speaker 8: So I love that putting the spotlight on the domes

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00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 8: the subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 4: That's insane.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the domes in sports.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to start with a do here. Do

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Speaker 2: interact with your fans. Big shout out to Wenby this week,

758
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: who had two epic fan moments. First, he did the

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00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: cutest little jersey swap with the kid who looks like

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00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: maybe like three or four years old, and took a

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Speaker 2: photo of him holding like the little tiny Wenby jersey

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Speaker 2: that he was wearing, and then the little kids holding up.

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Speaker 3: The giant Wenby jersey.

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Speaker 2: And then this morning, you guys, at nine thirty am Eastern,

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Speaker 2: he tweeted, who wants to meet me at the southwest

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Speaker 2: corner of Washington Square Park to play chess.

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00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: I'm there and he.

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00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: Was there playing fans and would ask why he did this,

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Speaker 2: He said, I just felt like it, And he was

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Speaker 2: there playing chess with fans in the rain.

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Speaker 3: He lost to du pros, but then beat his brother

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Speaker 3: was having a great time.

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Speaker 5: Feel like we should amend that to being do interact

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Speaker 5: with your fans unless you're Nick Sirianni, this is like

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00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 5: he's just remember that from the earlier this year, was.

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Speaker 3: Yelling back, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

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Speaker 5: All right, do use your opportunities wisely. So we talked

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Speaker 5: about with Danny Rodgers about how Ben Jonson just the

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00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 5: audacity of the Detroit Lions offensive coordinator. He called a

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Speaker 5: trick play in which Jared Goff stumbled on purpose, Jamior

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00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 5: Gibb hit the deck, Drea Gibbs hit the deck like

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00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 5: he had accidentally fumbled the football. Coaches yelling fumble, fumble,

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Speaker 5: fumble on the sidelines, trying to freeze the bare linebackers

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Speaker 5: in place because of something that they had seen against

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Speaker 5: Green Bay where Jordan Love actually did umbuld the ball

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Speaker 5: and then his tight end came wide open.

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Speaker 6: End.

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Speaker 5: The play worked out well. Ben Johnson not only called

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Speaker 5: this play against a division opponent, Yeah, he called it

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00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 5: against a team that is reportedly interested in hiring him

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Speaker 5: as their next head coach.

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Speaker 4: This was an extended interview people.

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Speaker 5: Johnson was showing the exactly what he's capable of and

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Speaker 5: using his opportunities to the fullest. Yes, well done, Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 5: my petty King, I adore you. I hope you really

796
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 5: are intrigued by that Chicago job and aren't scared away

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00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 5: from it save for various reasons.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Also, like keep up those silly dances at the end.

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Speaker 4: That was so good. That was so good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I have another.

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Speaker 2: Dude, do continue to support women's sports. This might have

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00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: been the best year ever in women's sports. I'm going

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00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: to run through a couple couple headlines here. The NTAA

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00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: Basketball Championship eighteen point nine million viewers, more than the

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Speaker 2: men's championship game first time ever. The twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: Pairs Olympics the first time that the Olympics featured an

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Speaker 2: equal number of men and women. Then you had Simoone Biles,

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00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: who solidified herself as the best and most decorated gymnast

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Speaker 2: of all time. WNBA had a historic season, most watched

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00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: regular season ever, private charters for the team, biggest brand

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Speaker 2: deal's highest total attendance. The new women's soccer USA VERSUS

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Speaker 2: England match set an attendance record over seventy eight thousand people.

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Speaker 2: The NWSL Championship sold out for the first time. Record

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Speaker 2: attendance for the NCAA Volleyball Final. The USA rugby at

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Speaker 2: the Olympics, like it is just it has been.

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Speaker 3: The year for women. Everyone watches women's sports pretty.

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Speaker 5: Well, in women's sports, speaking of women involved in sports, yep,

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Speaker 5: do respect royalty. Okay, because on Christmas Day we got

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Speaker 5: to Beyonces. And my favorite part of all of this

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00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 5: was something so small during so it was in the

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Speaker 5: Texans game. Halftime of the Texans game, she rivaled any

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl halftime I've ever seen with this performance from

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00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 5: her boy Carter album. But post Malone was a special

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Speaker 5: guest came out.

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Speaker 4: And if you notice it, I've clipped it.

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Speaker 5: I put it on my social media at one of

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Speaker 5: the times that they were working back and forth to

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Speaker 5: each other. Yeah, you just hear post Malone go yes Sam.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he calls everyone ma'am.

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Speaker 4: He does, but like in mid performance.

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Speaker 5: As he's singing, as soon as he's done singing Beyonce,

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Speaker 5: they started singing to him and he goes yes ma'am

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00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 5: and I was just like, yes, hey, homage to this

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Speaker 5: woman who is just changing what we think of genres.

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Speaker 5: As there were so many amazing things in that halftime

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Speaker 5: performance as far as odes to black artists and country

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Speaker 5: music with the women she walked out with you had

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Speaker 5: the Texas Southern Band on the HBCU band on the field,

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Speaker 5: there was a different design. Like all of the designs

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Speaker 5: and the intricacies of the things that they were wearing,

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00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 5: the custom Levi's denim that they were wearing, that all

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00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: paid homage to different things that harken back to, you know,

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Speaker 5: black artists and their impact on country music, which is

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Speaker 5: not something you normally think of.

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Speaker 2: Just also, her daughter Blue Ivy out there dancing with her.

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Speaker 2: She's been on tour with her all summer.

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Speaker 3: Twelve years old.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's insane, you know, Like that was at like

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Speaker 2: she just absolutely crushed it just there with that's so special.

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Speaker 2: That's so special special. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna end

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Speaker 2: this with a don't.

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Speaker 3: Okay, don't pull a WWE move in a basketball game.

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00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but Draymond Green

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00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: did a double arm hook pulled down while playing the Lakers.

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00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: He was standing side for like free throw was happening,

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00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: and he hooked onto two Laker offensive players and literally

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00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: did a leap jump back and pulled them both down

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Speaker 2: with them. Do we know what the WWE name for

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00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: that is? Is there a name?

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Speaker 3: No? Anybody ww fans.

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Speaker 4: Ih.

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00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not as superlex, but it's I don't know

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Speaker 5: it is. I feel like it's called something anyway.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was wild, like it was straight wild.

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Speaker 2: It was so like that, like the fact he acted

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Speaker 2: surprise was insane. All right, when do we come back?

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Speaker 2: Who won Christmas? You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to our two of Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry

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Speaker 2: here with Carmen Vitali. Thank you for spending your Saturday

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Speaker 2: afternoon with us. I hope everyone's having an amazing holiday

871
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: break and happy in between where time does not exist

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00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: and every day feels like a Saturday from Christmas to

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00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: New Year's unless you work in sports, and then we're

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Speaker 2: just here to entertain you. And that's what we've been

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Speaker 2: doing all day, and we've been having a blast. It's

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00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: already been a great NFL Saturday. Chargers are going to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs walking in their wildcard spot with the win,

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Speaker 2: and we got Broncos and Bangles right now, both these

879
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: teams trying to keep their playoff hopes alive. Broncos up

880
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: three nothing in the first.

881
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: Yes, we've got so many bowl games.

882
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: There are so many Bowl games going on right now.

883
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: The airs on a Snoop Dog.

884
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: Are you guys.

885
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 4: Okay, here's my question.

886
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: Just look at this, Just look at the field.

887
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: Here's my question. In the field, these bowl games used

888
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: to be. It used to be like, oh, okay, you

889
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: get all.

890
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 5: The swag, there's all perks and all these other things

891
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 5: to like reward these teams.

892
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 4: That's what like bowl games were.

893
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 5: But now with nil because like I have to imagine,

894
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 5: if the Snoop Dog's Arizona BWL, you probably get hooked

895
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 5: up with some really fun stuff, like if any bowl

896
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: is gonna give you like swag it.

897
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: Right, But does that even matter anymore? Now with nil?

898
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: No, because they're making so much money, they also just

899
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 2: don't want to get hurt. And there's probably so many

900
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: players that aven of the trains for portal by this time. Anyway, Martin,

901
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: are you jumping in on this?

902
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 5: Like that's my question is like does this even matter?

903
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 5: Does does the swag bags? Do the swag bags matter anymore?

904
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: Everybody loves free everyone stuff.

905
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: That's fair. That's fair.

906
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 5: I just I mean, you know, there's there's a whole

907
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 5: lot involved, and I feel like more, more and more

908
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 5: teams are like electing not to play bowl games and

909
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 5: stuff like that. If you're just barely Bowl eligible, you

910
00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 5: don't want to.

911
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 8: Like, I think there's a lot on the line for

912
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 8: this Pop Tarts Trophy. I mean, given that, I am

913
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 8: not question.

914
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 4: At all the pop Tarts Ball that from toaster trophy.

915
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 8: We know it worked because it went off Dura in

916
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 8: the in the announcer boots. Did you see the strawberries alive?

917
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 8: He is alive strawberries. We have storylines, we have multi

918
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 8: year storylines with the Super the.

919
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: Pop Tarts Bowl. It's just incredible.

920
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 7: I know.

921
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 5: I'm not questioning if anybody if it's worth playing the

922
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 5: Pop Tarts Bowl at all. Trust me, the sprinkles along

923
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 5: the sidelines. I'm hoping that there's a Pop Tarts cage

924
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: match at halftime.

925
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 4: That's that's what I need.

926
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: We'll see from that. Also, if he gets any more.

927
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 8: Cagey than Pittsburgh Toledo was in Detroit, that was I've

928
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 8: never seen a flagrant unsportsmanlike like that.

929
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

930
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 8: Apparently they both came out the same tunnel, so they

931
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 8: were like primed up for that.

932
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

933
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, And hey, listen, however, you need motivation in these

934
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 5: uh in these these bowl games that aren't part of

935
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 5: the college football Playoff.

936
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get started with one of the big questions

949
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: this week and debate who won Christmas? Was it the NFL?

950
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: Was it the NBA? No, it was Beyonce. Beyonce One Christmas,

951
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: you guys. Let's just put that out there. NFL viewership

952
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: peaked on Christmas Day at twenty seven million during Beyonce's

953
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 2: halftime performance.

954
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: It was seen in over two hundred countries, which I

955
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 5: have to think is the appeal of Beyonce It's why

956
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 5: Netflix paid lord no how much worth to Beyonce. I

957
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 5: mean they already put up a lot of hundreds of

958
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 5: millions for these games, the rights of these games in general,

959
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 5: but then to also put on that halftime show, which, again,

960
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 5: like I said before, rivaled any super Bowl halftime that

961
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 5: wasn't seen that.

962
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 3: Was a super Bowl on to you probably.

963
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 5: Had to pay Beyonce on top of like paying for

964
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 5: the performance itself. It was so good it was, I mean, yeah,

965
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 5: and if it's gonna get over two hundred countries to

966
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 5: tune into your app, it broke all kind of streaming

967
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 5: records everything Netflix, I mean they got Honestly, I was

968
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 5: really impressed. To aside from all of that because the

969
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 5: Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight, there were so many glitches

970
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 5: and issues and I think all of us were kind

971
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 5: of collectively holding our breath going into these o is

972
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 5: do they have the bandwidth? Is it going to freeze?

973
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 5: Are there going to be technical issues? There was not

974
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 5: a single non frozen frame.

975
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: And they joked about it too.

976
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: Beyonce put out a video the day before where like

977
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: mid video, it did the glitch and you were like, oh,

978
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: oh wait, no, she didn't know I was showing everybody. Okay,

979
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: it was all right, phenomenal, hang all around, very well done,

980
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: but like crushed it.

981
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 5: Yeah no, I mean that's the right answer. Is Beyonce

982
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 5: winning the game? Yeah, winning Christmas, I mean, as she should.

983
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: NFL is now the king of Christmas.

984
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean the NFL game day reached a record breaking

985
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: sixty five million US viewers and.

986
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: Average audience a twenty four million for Kansas City Pittsburgh,

987
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 5: average audience a twenty seven million for Baltimore.

988
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's incredible.

989
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: And then you had which is hard because Christmas used

990
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: to be the NBA's day. Lebron James had some thoughts saying,

991
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: I love the NFL, but Christmas is the NBA's day.

992
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: But not anymore, buddy, Like, I don't know what you want. Like,

993
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: you did have the most watched NBA Christmas in five years.

994
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: You were up eighty four percent from last year, but

995
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: you averaged five point two five million viewers per game

996
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: and Lakers First Warriors peaked at eight point three two millions. That, like,

997
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: that's still peak. Viewership was only a third of what

998
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 2: the NFL got.

999
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's less NFL games, so every NFL

1000
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 5: game ends up drawing more than NBA games because there's

1001
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 5: something more. I personally was not happy about the fact

1002
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 5: that there were games on Christmas because of the way,

1003
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 5: because of Christmas being on a Wednesday. It wasn't necessarily

1004
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 5: that I have an issue with there being games on Christmas,

1005
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 5: but when it's on an unnatural day of the week

1006
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 5: like Wednesday or a two night NFL game, the amount

1007
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 5: of logistics it takes. And like, again, if you're gonna

1008
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 5: you're talking out of both sides of your mouth the

1009
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 5: NFL about player safety because you're saying you're doing all

1010
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 5: this stuff, you're changing the kickoff rules, you're doing all

1011
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 5: these things for playoff, for player safety. And then you

1012
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 5: turn around and you put two games, good games, games

1013
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 5: with actual implications where you can't rest starters on a Wednesday.

1014
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 5: And yes, those four teams played on the Saturday, so

1015
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 5: it's like a Sunday to a Thursday kind of schedule.

1016
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 5: And that's how you're rationalizing it to yourself. But then

1017
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 5: you look at Kansas City Chiefs who.

1018
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: Are playing three games in eleven days. That's insane. That's

1019
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: not player safety.

1020
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: No, you can't work.

1021
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 5: That's the face of your league, the face of the

1022
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 5: league not but like even if it's not the face

1023
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 5: of your league, I mean, these guys, what they put

1024
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 5: their bodies through on a weekly basis. It's why the

1025
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: NFL only has seventeen games is because your body, physically,

1026
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: if you are even if you're an athlete, cannot take

1027
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 5: that big of a meeting. I mean, I've so many

1028
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 5: different players just about what it takes for them to

1029
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 5: recover and keep their body in shape and what it

1030
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 5: feels like after they played a game.

1031
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: They all liken it to me as getting into.

1032
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: A car getting hit by a car.

1033
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 5: Yes, they told me that they wake up the next

1034
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 5: morning after a game feeling like they got hit by

1035
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 5: a car. And that's that's a standard, normal game where

1036
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 5: you came out.

1037
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: A week healthy quote unquote.

1038
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1039
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: So to have your just to have teams playing three

1040
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 5: games and eleven days, to have them playing on a Wednesday,

1041
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: I mean, was it really worth it? And the sad

1042
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 5: part is, yeah, this viewer, this type of viewership, this

1043
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 5: it's not going.

1044
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: To stop now. It's no like you have Christmas, they

1045
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: have Christmas.

1046
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: I mean, luckily we're getting into like a reasonable it's

1047
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: going to be on Thursday next year, right, because it'll

1048
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: just keep me right down, So like, well, we'll have

1049
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: a couple of years of like okay, but yeah, that's yeah,

1050
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: But then what do you do when it's on Tuesday.

1051
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: Tuesday Wednesdays are brutal. Those are brutal. But let's get

1052
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: to that Beyonce Bowl. The Christmas Game, two Ravens crushed

1053
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: the Texans and Lamar Jackson broke Michael Vick's record for

1054
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: career rushing yards by a quarterback and Lamar only he

1055
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: only needed eighty seven rushing yards entering the game to

1056
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: pass pick and he broke his record in one hundred

1057
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 2: and two career games, forty one fewer than Michael Vick

1058
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: took to get that record. And after the game he

1059
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: just said, you know, I'm grateful. That's a record that's

1060
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: been there forever a long time. Michael Vick one of

1061
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 2: my favorite players.

1062
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: It's just out norfolks, stay woo.

1063
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just crazy when you think of how the

1064
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: Ravens season started and there was like a little bit

1065
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: of concern the.

1066
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 3: Zero to two losing to the Chiefs.

1067
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean that was like the toe on the line

1068
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: touchdown the din't count and then lost to the Raiders.

1069
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: But they're getting hot at the right time, like they're

1070
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: on a three game win streak. They've won four of

1071
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: their last five. And Lamar is playing better football than

1072
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 2: his two MVP seasons. He's got the best better completion percentage,

1073
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: more passing yards, better passing touchdowns to interceptions, better passer rating,

1074
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 2: and the most rushing yards that he's had. Like he

1075
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: he is making a real push to get that third MVP.

1076
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: Do you think he can steal the MVP from Josh

1077
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 2: Allen because right now Alan remains a favorite at minus

1078
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: two hundred, and Lamar jumped from plus four hundred to

1079
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: plus one fifty five.

1080
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 5: I have an issue with calling it stealing. His stats

1081
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 5: are better than Josh Allen's. Like I realized that maybe

1082
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 5: that's what Vegas says that I know Vegas knows things,

1083
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 5: but listen, it's not stealing. Lamar Jackson has one hundred

1084
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 5: and twenty point seven passer rating that makes first in

1085
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 5: the league right now, thirty five thirty five hundred pasing yards,

1086
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 5: He ranks fifth second in passing touchdowns, his completion rate

1087
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 5: tenth in the league.

1088
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: Plus on top.

1089
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 5: Of that, he has eight hundred fifty tw rushing yards

1090
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 5: and four rushing touchdowns. So I mean, I don't think

1091
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 5: he's gonna make the four thousand and one thousand like

1092
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 5: we thought that he might be able to do this

1093
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 5: year between four thousand passing yards one thousand rushing yards

1094
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 5: that ever been done. It doesn't look like he's going

1095
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 5: to reach that. Yeah, but you compare that to Josh

1096
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Speaker 5: Allen's stats. One hundred and three point five rating for

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen, that's seventh in the league. He's got the

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Speaker 5: ninth most passing yards, twenty five touchdowns was ranked sixth.

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Speaker 5: His completion rate is only twentieth in the league. So sure,

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen and I do think that this kind of

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00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 5: comes down to, and I've talked about it multiple times before,

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Speaker 5: of all right, how do you view the team around

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen versus how you view the team around Lamargin.

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Speaker 3: Jack Bills wouldn't be there without Josh Allen.

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00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 5: But if this is an individual award, which it is,

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson is out performing Josh Allen. Yeah, that's bottom line.

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Speaker 5: You look at every single metric, and he is outperforming

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen, and he's doing things that Josh Allen isn't

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Speaker 5: doing now.

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is a mobile quarterback.

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Speaker 5: But I really do think that, and this is why

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00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 5: we were talking about it earlier. Where what do you

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00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 5: do if you're the Buffalo Bills at this point because

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00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs have locked up the number one seed?

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Speaker 5: Do you rest Josh Allen down the stretch now that

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00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 5: you have nothing left to play for as far as

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Speaker 5: seating goes, or you've locked up your division already Because

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Speaker 5: if you do yes, you're going to rest Josh Allen

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00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: and you're gonna rest some of your stars and that's

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Speaker 5: gonna be good going to the postseason. But I really

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Speaker 5: think that Josh needs to play a great last two

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Speaker 5: games in order to win the MVP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think the MVP race is going to come down

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Speaker 3: to the last game.

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Speaker 5: So you look at how Josh Allen played last week

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Speaker 5: against the New England Patriots. That game was much closer

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Speaker 5: than I think people thought it was going to be.

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen was only sixteen to twenty nine for one

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00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty four yards and a touchdown and an interception.

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Speaker 4: He had six rushes for thirty yards. Did not play well.

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Speaker 5: Contrast that to what Lamar did on Christmas Day, putting

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Speaker 5: on a show one and sixteen everyone for one hundred

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00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 5: and sixty yards, two passing touchdowns, plus he rushed four

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00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 5: times eighty seven yards and a rushing touchdown for Lamar

1136
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 5: Jackson like put on a show in you know, with

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Speaker 5: his entire team because the Ravens absolutely dominated that game.

1138
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 5: But now you're looking at it like, Okay, if you

1139
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 5: want Josh Allen to get MVP, he has things to prove.

1140
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: Right, he has to, But then it had I think

1141
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: it kind of comes down to, like you have to

1142
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: ask Josh Allen, what do you want to do? Are

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00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: you going to try to go for this individual award

1144
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: or do you need rest? Because it has to come

1145
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: down to his decision at this point obviously these last

1146
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: two games.

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00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 5: Or Sean McDermott can can ben he's the head coach. Yeah,

1148
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 5: he can absolutely make that decision. It's not necessarily then,

1149
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 5: like if you're Sean McDermott, do you want to save

1150
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 5: Josh Allen for from himself? That's that's the big question.

1151
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 5: I think with the Buffalo Bills again, with the Kansas

1152
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 5: City Chiefs locking up the number one seed, you don't

1153
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 5: have anything left to play for. You've already locked up

1154
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: your division, so right now it is it is just

1155
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 5: chasing after an Indie visual award. Yes, And is that

1156
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 5: responsible or is that reckless? You have to have Josh

1157
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 5: Allen for the playoffs to have a chance at beating

1158
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 5: he is.

1159
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: He is the team, he is the Bills.

1160
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: Josh Allen elevated this team beyond what their roster looks

1161
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 5: like on paper. He has elevated the like the expectations

1162
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 5: for this team were not as high as what Josh

1163
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 5: Allen had for this team, and he has elevated them

1164
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 5: to surpass any and all expectations we had at the

1165
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills, given the departures they had and the injuries

1166
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 5: they had, all that kind of stuff across the board.

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00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 5: Josh Allen is the reason that this team is winning.

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00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 5: So what do you do with him? Is the main

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00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 5: question to me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it is.

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00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: And then you got Saquon Barkley a distant third in

1172
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: this MVP race, and he's getting close to beating Eric

1173
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: Dickerson sees single season rushing record. It's currently two one

1174
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: and five yards, has eight hundred and thirty eight, so

1175
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: in two more games he needs two hundred and sixty

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00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: eight yards to pass Edie. It's possible. He's had a

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty yard game this season again the Rams,

1178
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: and he's had ten games over one hundred yards. So

1179
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: if if he reaches at and if he breaks the record,

1180
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: maybe he's in the convo. I mean, I mean the

1181
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: race is really between Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and

1182
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: these last two games of the season, Saquon thrown his

1183
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: name in the hat.

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00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: Now Jalen hurts out.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've been talking about this for a while

1186
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 5: now about Josh Allen having the MVP favorite odds given

1187
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 5: the fact that Lamar Jackson has now won it twice

1188
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 5: already and people are just don't want to give him

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Speaker 5: the award, but his.

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Speaker 3: Numbers are better. And then he had his other two

1191
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 3: mvtas and.

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Speaker 5: It's resulted in uh in wins for the Ravens and

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00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 5: productivity for the Ravens. Like it's it's resulted in team's

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00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 5: success too. But you have that argument for Josh Allen

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00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 5: as well. And then I think after that, when you

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Speaker 5: look at Listen, Saquon Barkley season is incredible and it

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Speaker 5: has mattered so much the Philadelphia Eagles because Jalen Or

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Speaker 5: is not the guy that I mean, he makes that

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Speaker 5: whole offense work, and we've seen what it looks like. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, but Saquon Barkley has been insulation for this

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles offense on top of the fact that they

1202
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 5: have one of the best offensive lines in football.

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00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's.

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Speaker 5: Kind of to me, one of the biggest I don't

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00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 5: want to say a knock because I don't want to

1206
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 5: knock Seguon. What he's done is special and it's very

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00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 5: very valuable. But when you look at the line he

1208
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 5: has in front of him, the Philadelpia Eagles have the

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00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 5: best offensive line in football. Yeah, that helps a running

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00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 5: back tremendously to where I feel like it takes away

1211
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Speaker 5: some of the like it takes away what the what

1212
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Speaker 5: running backs had to do in order to be successful.

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Speaker 5: Like I could run through some of those holes that

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00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line and you know, no one else,

1215
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 5: We've never seen anybody else reverse Hurtle anybody. And like

1216
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Speaker 5: I said, everything that Sequon Barkley has done is been

1217
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: very very special this season. But you can't talk about

1218
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 5: Saquon barkley success without attributing some of it to Eagles

1219
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 5: offensive line, Whereas when you look at Lamar Jackson and

1220
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, they are elevating the team around them, They're

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00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 5: not being elevated, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you also like it. It's the guys

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Speaker 2: around them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I been able to do. Josh Allen is the Bills,

1225
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 3: like he literally put the bills on his back. And

1226
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: it's a.

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Speaker 5: Team game regardless. But you have you're winning games because

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00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 5: of Josh Allen. You're winning games because of Lamar Jackson. Yeah,

1229
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 5: you're winning games.

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Speaker 4: To some extent to what I was.

1231
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Speaker 5: But when you've seen Saquon be limited, it's not just

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00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 5: what the defense is doing against Saquon, it's do they

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00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 5: have Jordan Malatta who was out for you know, a

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00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 5: couple of years, Like do they have Lane Johnson who

1235
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 5: missed a game?

1236
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Speaker 4: Like it matters.

1237
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 5: The offensive line dictates so much of Saquon Barkley's success

1238
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: is my argument, and it's again, I don't want to

1239
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 5: I don't want this to come up like I'm taking

1240
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 5: anything away from Saquon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's fair. We're gonna take a quicker here

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Speaker 2: when we come back. Who's going to be the next

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Speaker 2: So we're starting to get some reports, you guys about

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: the Bears head coaching job we talked about this last week.

1262
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: This is a franchise defining hire that they have to

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: get right, not just for the team, but for Caleb

1264
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: Williams if they want to see the full potential of

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00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: the NFL quarterback that he can be. And there have

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Speaker 2: been two names that made headlines this week. Pete Carroll

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Speaker 2: was one of them. Former Seahawks head coach said he's

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00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: interested in in the Bear's job. And then the hottest

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00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: name on the market, Ben Johnson, the line's offensive coordinator,

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00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: is intrigued by the Bear's job. But let's start with

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Speaker 2: Pete because he's seventy three years old, he's a defensive coach.

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Speaker 3: He did have massive success at the college level, so

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Speaker 3: he could.

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Speaker 2: I guess, kind of help with that transition to the

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Speaker 2: NFL game and build.

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Speaker 3: But if you.

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Speaker 2: Go with Pete Carroll, you have to have a top

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00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: tier offensive coordinator who's going to help develop Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: How realistic do you think this candidate is.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why p Carroll wants to problems.

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00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 5: I listen, there's so much dysfunction in the Bears organization,

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00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 5: as evidenced by the fact that this is the third

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00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 5: time in a row, fourth time in my lifetime that

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00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 5: they're even in this scenario where they've taken a quarterback

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00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 5: in the first round and then fired his head coach

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00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 5: less than a year later. That is tough.

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00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 4: The organization does.

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Speaker 5: Not have a good reputation within NFL circles of people

1289
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 5: I've talked to everything like that. They know it's a

1290
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 5: tough place to get anything done to and there's so

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00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 5: much red tape that you So I don't know why

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00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 5: Pete Carroll would want this gig first and foremost, But

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00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 5: what is intriguing about a guy like Pete Carroll and

1294
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 5: why it matters is getting an actually experienced coach to

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00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 5: come in. And it's not necessarily that he has the

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00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 5: experience himself. It's because of the staff he could bring in.

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Speaker 5: You have the network. If you're Pete Carroll, you do

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00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 5: you know all of the best kind of brightest minds

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Speaker 5: in the NFL. You know who you could bring in

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00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 5: that would that that would get the most out of

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Speaker 5: Caleb Williams as an offensive coordinator. You know, you could

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01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 5: be the CEO head coach and not even call the

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Speaker 5: defense if you're Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 4: If bringing in somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Could create a watch too.

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Speaker 5: That's why I've advocated for like think like I think

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Speaker 5: I would like a guy like Mike Rabel, who is

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Speaker 5: a culture guy, but also as a proven track record

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Speaker 5: of bringing in his first coordinator.

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Speaker 4: When he got the head job in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Lafloor, Yeah, after that Arthur Smith Yeah, both

1312
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Speaker 2: had coaches.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and say what you want about Arthur Smiths as

1314
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 5: a head coach, but as an offensive coordinator, he's clearly

1315
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 5: very good. And Mattletfloor again, thirteen win seasons abound in

1316
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 5: Green Bay, so he knows how to identify talent. And

1317
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 5: that's the most important thing to me about whoever the

1318
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 5: Bears higher is. I want it to be a guy

1319
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 5: that is a culture builder, because it's something that the

1320
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 5: Bears have struggled with basically my entire lifetime. Outside of

1321
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 5: I think Olivia Smith, Ears were pretty good. Yeah, but

1322
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 5: you need to get an experienced guy that can then

1323
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 5: have a network or bring in his network. And that's

1324
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 5: why a guy like Pete Carroll would be appealing again

1325
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 5: at this stage of his life at somebody I got

1326
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 5: he's a young seventy.

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Speaker 3: Three because he is he he is.

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01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 5: But like, why you want the problems of overhauling an

1329
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 5: organization like this, it's it's not going to be easy.

1330
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 5: And this is what I've been talking about this entire

1331
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 5: like so far since the Bears fired Matti Reflus of

1332
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 5: your coaching candidate. Pool is going to be affected by

1333
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 5: the reputation your organization has. Of course they are, and

1334
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 5: I'm very interested to see what ends up happening with

1335
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 5: Ryan Poles. I don't think he's deserved to get fired,

1336
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 5: but I do think that there is some friction at

1337
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 5: the top because when Ryan Poles was hired, Kevin Warren

1338
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 5: was not there. Their team president, Kevin Warren got hired

1339
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 5: and then put over top of Ryan Poles, which is

1340
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 5: not something Ryan Poles initially agreed to. So and then again,

1341
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 5: that gives you if you're a head coach coming into this,

1342
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 5: that means you're below the general manager, who's below the

1343
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 5: team president, who's below ownership. So you now have to

1344
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 5: get through all four of those levels before you even

1345
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 5: get to talk to ownership about making decisions or what

1346
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 5: you need for this football team or anything like that.

1347
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 5: I do think that Pete Carroll could cut through some

1348
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 5: of that, given his track record and experience.

1349
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: He could. I just don't know why he wants these problems.

1350
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: And then the hottest name on the market, Ben Johnson,

1351
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 2: is intrigued by the Bears job.

1352
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 3: I mean I would be too if I was.

1353
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 4: If I hung audacious Johnson.

1354
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: Is he's gonna have a lot of options. He's gonna

1355
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: have literally his choice able to write check. It's going

1356
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: to be what what quarterback does he believe in that

1357
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: he can work with and that franchise that will allow

1358
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: him to help grow a quarterback is that's probably going

1359
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: to be his best better.

1360
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 5: I mean, he's seen an organizational turnaround. Yeah, he didn't

1361
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 5: do it because it was Dan Campbell who was the CEO,

1362
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 5: he coach. It was the culture guy that kind of

1363
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 5: really turned around the belief and Ben Johnson is the

1364
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 5: ex's and o's guy. So honestly, when you look at

1365
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 5: the roster Chicago, I have to imagine he's salivating at

1366
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 5: that because usually a head coaching job doesn't come with

1367
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 5: this much talent. So I get that he's intrigued and

1368
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 5: that he has this fire to be a head coach,

1369
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 5: which he also talked about just in a generic sense.

1370
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 5: But I am still not convinced that he leaves his

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01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 5: gig in Detroit, especially if they don't win a Super Bowl.

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01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they don't.

1373
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 4: Win a Super Bowl, I don't necessarily.

1374
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 5: Know the job's not den throwing anywhere.

1375
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, job's not done.

1376
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 5: And He's got a really cushy gig in Detroit. All

1377
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 5: he has to do is tinker with the offense. He

1378
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 5: at this. I know he got a raise before this

1379
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 5: season that the numbers aren't public as to how much

1380
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 5: he makes. Okay, but he has to be at this

1381
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 5: point one of the highest paid offensive coordinators in the league.

1382
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: You would imagine they paid everyone Affice.

1383
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 5: They paid They paid it like players, they paid staff, everybody.

1384
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 5: So and he's warranted that. So it's like, all right,

1385
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 5: is the extra few.

1386
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 4: Million worth it?

1387
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 5: Is it worth it to be one of the thirty

1388
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 5: two And for a lot of guys it is. Yeah,

1389
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 5: but this is not for the faint of heart in Chicago.

1390
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 5: This is something that they have not been able to

1391
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 5: do for decades. Yeah, my entire lifetime.

1392
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be rough. Let's check it with Martin

1393
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: Wise and see what's trending.

1394
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 10: Well, just under five minutes left in the first half,

1395
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 10: the Broncos have a three to nothing.

1396
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 9: Lead on the Bengals. Well, I mean the Bengals have

1397
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 9: been They're.

1398
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 10: Begging the Broncos to put a drive together here they

1399
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 10: failed a fourth and one in the first quarter. Jamar

1400
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 10: Chase dropped the potential goal ahead touchdown pass in the

1401
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 10: second quarter. Joe Burrow leading all players with eighty one

1402
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 10: yards passing twenty eight yards for Chase Brown on the ground,

1403
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 10: my Koseki leading the Bengals with forty yards receiving. They

1404
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 10: have the ball on their own thirty eight yard line. This, Yeah,

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01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 10: you're absolutely right, barn Burner shades of Thursday Night Football

1406
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 10: six to three Bear, Seahawks over the Bears.

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01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 4: Session turnover on down for the Bengals. Come on, look,

1408
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 4: I did the math earlier.

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 10: Today is the winning teams have had one hundred and

1410
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 10: three points I guess now one hundred and six points

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 10: to twenty two points for losing teams since Wednesday from

1412
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 10: through to week sev Yeah, bad ball.

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01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 9: Speaking of bad ball in the NBA, Now I was fine.

1414
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 10: The Hawks beat the Heat one twenty one ten Tyler

1415
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 10: Hero twenty eight points, seven rebounds and ten assists. In

1416
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 10: college football right now at Iowa State and Miami ran

1417
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 10: A playing a halftimeber the pop Tars Bowl.

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01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 9: Thirty one to twenty eight. Cam wore Miami in the lead.

1419
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 10: Cam Ward with three touchdown passes one hundred and ninety

1420
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 10: through the air. The snoop dogg Arizona Bowl. That's Miami

1421
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 10: of Ohio and Colorado State. The RedHawks have a six

1422
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 10: to three lead over Colorado State in oft SE. NFL

1423
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 10: some got some injury news to Chungue by Loa downgraded

1424
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,959
Speaker 10: to doubtful with the hip injury. Tyler Huntley will start

1425
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 10: if TUA can't play Dolphins one and three without two

1426
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 10: of this year. Quarterback Anthony Richardson ruled out for Indianapolis

1427
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 10: with footing back soreness. Joe Flacco gets the start against

1428
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 10: the Giants. Tony Pollard has the flu and did not

1429
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 10: travel with Tennessee. The running backs status is in jeopardy

1430
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 10: for Sunday's game at Jacksonville, and Jalen Hurts did not

1431
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 10: clear from cunsion protocol and enough time to play against

1432
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 10: Dallas on Sunday.

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 9: Because of the Pro Football.

1434
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 10: Hall of Fame first time finals for Class of twenty

1435
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 10: twenty five, Eli Manning, Toro Suggs, Luke Keigley, Marshall, Jonda

1436
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 10: and Adam vinnet Terry, Georgia quarterback Carson Beck declared for

1437
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 10: the NFL Draft. He also had Tommy John surgery in

1438
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 10: his throwing arm last week. And Bucks point guard Damian

1439
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 10: Lillard set to play today against the Bulls.

1440
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 9: He's missed the last four games due to soreness. Carmen,

1441
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 9: Now it's back to you guys.

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01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: Thank you Martin listening to Fox Football Saturday and Alex

1443
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: Courie with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Tart dot Com Studios in Los Angeles and it is

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01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: time for our next guest, NFL dot Com Rider and

1446
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: friend of the show, nixt Ship.

1447
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

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01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 11: It's my favorite two women in the Yeah.

1449
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 5: Flattery will get you everywhere.

1450
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 4: How are you?

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01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 11: I'm fantastic. Thanks for having me on.

1452
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 3: We love it.

1453
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: Let's start in the AFC North and Lamar Jackson and

1454
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: the Ravens have been rolling, controlling their destiny right now.

1455
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 3: How impressive has this team been down the stretch?

1456
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 11: No, I mean they've been fantastic. You know, we've seen

1457
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 11: their potential in spurts earlier in the season. You think

1458
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 11: about that game against the Cowboys and they ran out

1459
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 11: to a big lead and the Cowboys made it interesting,

1460
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 11: but they held on. We've seen other games they just

1461
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 11: dominated with the ground attack. But what's really impressive about them?

1462
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 11: What was impressive about them? In their most recent win

1463
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 11: was the fact that they could beat you in any way.

1464
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 11: They ran the ball like crazy. They're running traps and

1465
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 11: influenced traps and all kinds of stuff and just getting

1466
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 11: whatever they wanted on the ground. And then you have

1467
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 11: Lamar back in the pocket, one of the better pocket

1468
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 11: passers in the NFL. When he's got time to survey,

1469
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 11: he's throwing the wide open guys more often than any

1470
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 11: of the quarterback in the NFL. And he did whatever

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 11: he wanted in that game. He took off on a

1472
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 11: read option for a touchdown run. Like you know, people

1473
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 11: who like to hate on him and say he's not

1474
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 11: a good passers simply aren't watching ball. They're not watching

1475
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 11: the tape with how he's playing right now. So they're

1476
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 11: on fire. They're sitting at the right time, and especially

1477
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 11: at a perfect time when the Steelers are kind of

1478
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 11: figuring out the new because they thought they were. So

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01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 11: I think they're gonna win the division and they're gonna

1480
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 11: make some noise in the playoffs. It's gonna get real

1481
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 11: interesting something.

1482
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 5: I don't know if it was you that said this

1483
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 5: earlier in the season or before the season even started,

1484
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 5: but when the Ravens acquired Derrick Henry.

1485
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: It was seen as they move not just obviously.

1486
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 5: For the immediate and for this season, but it was

1487
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 5: to help them sustain playoff success. And so how much

1488
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 5: do you think that Derrick Henry being added to this

1489
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 5: roster will now matter in the postseason? How much more

1490
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 5: sustainable does that make their offense so that they aren't

1491
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 5: one hundred percent reliant on Lamar to score points.

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01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 11: I mean, it depends. It's not not going to decide

1493
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 11: to hand the ball to running back more than eight

1494
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 11: times in the affair because what he said.

1495
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:38,839
Speaker 7: Last year and it didn't matter.

1496
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 11: Who you had run in the football. I think Derrick

1497
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 11: Henry's presence will remind him that they can lean on him.

1498
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 11: That's what's really been most impressive about them. And they

1499
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 11: haven't been a perfect team by any stretch of the imagination.

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01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 11: I mean the game they lost.

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01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 7: To the Browns and he's look at the record overall,

1502
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 7: like you've watched them play football and you're like, how

1503
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 7: do they have this many losses? And that they wouldn't

1504
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 7: just good And I think they've kind of worked through

1505
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 7: some of the growing pains.

1506
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 11: Some teams have done well at bottling up Henry, but

1507
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 11: the da alone that you have him available in those

1508
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 11: situations makes you that much more dangerous as an offense.

1509
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 11: And I think that's really the element they lacked last year.

1510
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 11: You know, they knock on Dobbins before he got hurt.

1511
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 11: No knock on Guss Edwards and Keithon Mitchell and Justice

1512
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 11: Hill and everybody else that they've had back there. But

1513
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 11: none of them are Dereck Henry, and none of them

1514
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 11: strikes fear in the hearts of opposing defenses like Derrick Henry,

1515
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 11: nor do they stiff arm guys into oblivion what Henry does.

1516
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 11: So you know, it's funny because like we think about

1517
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 11: the Ravens and they had Greg Roman az Oci and

1518
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 11: they were this dominant rushing attack. I'd take them now

1519
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 11: over then. And that's really what's scary about them, because

1520
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 11: they've upgraded offensively. At receiver, Tod Munkin knows how to

1521
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 11: open up this pass the game. Lamar has more control

1522
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 11: of the line three snap and you're seeing you know,

1523
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 11: I wouldn't say it's the peak, but it's probably the

1524
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 11: best of the Ravens offense has looked since Lamar joined

1525
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 11: the team. And that's a scary thought for other teams.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean Lamar's putting up better numbers this season,

1527
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: that is two MVP seasons, but he's still behind Josh

1528
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 2: Allen as the MVP fave.

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01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 3: Who has your MVP vote right now?

1530
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 11: Because you know, I understand voter fatigue with Lamar. I

1531
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 11: get it. I think last year was kind of a

1532
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 11: weird situation where there was no clear favorite, and if

1533
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 11: Dak Prescott hadn't blown a complete tire in Orchard Park

1534
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 11: late in the season against the Bills, I think he

1535
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 11: would have made it really interesting. You could admit a

1536
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 11: case for chrisim mccaffre as well. It's way end up

1537
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 11: the offensive player of the year.

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01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 7: It's funny though, because two years in a round now

1539
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 7: we've had a team go play an Orchard Park and

1540
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 7: have a plunker. Last year it was the Cowboys and

1541
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 7: Dak Prescott with an MVP candidate. This year was jossh

1542
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 7: Allen having a bit of a clunker against the Patriots.

1543
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 7: So I think it's brought it back to Evan or

1544
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 7: close to Evan. Lamar has had a phenomenal last.

1545
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 11: Two games and it's going to be really interesting. And

1546
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 11: this was last week week and a half to see

1547
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 11: what happens. I would probably put Alan ahead just because

1548
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 11: of who the Bills have become with Joe Brady as

1549
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 11: the offensive coordinator and the way he's just been so

1550
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 11: valuable to that team. But it's really hard to ignore

1551
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 11: what Lamar has done and if he's trying to make

1552
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 11: a case for that MVP, he's doing a hell of

1553
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 11: a job right now.

1554
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think there's there's something to be said

1555
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 5: about elevating a team and how Josh Allen has been

1556
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 5: able to kind of eleve a roster that isn't as

1557
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 5: stacked as perhaps the Ravens are.

1558
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 4: But another player that I mean is.

1559
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 5: Going completely overlood and I understand why because the team

1560
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 5: isn't doing super well, but it's a guy like Joe

1561
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 5: Burrow who has elevated within every limit that he possibly can.

1562
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 4: And it's just I can't quit the Bengals this year, Nick.

1563
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: She can't.

1564
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 5: I can't do it, do it. And I'm watching this

1565
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 5: game against the Broncos and I'm like, oh my god,

1566
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 5: you guys don't even deserve to be in the playoffs

1567
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 5: right now if you can't handle the Broncos right now,

1568
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 5: And like what what what do I what?

1569
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 4: What do the.

1570
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,520
Speaker 5: Bengals need to to shock the world at this point?

1571
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 11: Well, I mean they need to win out, they need

1572
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 11: some help, and it's pretty sample. They need to look

1573
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 11: in the mirror and acknowledge the fact that they put

1574
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 11: themselves in this position. It's the leaky defense that couldn't

1575
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 11: stop a nose bleeders in the beating. It's funny though,

1576
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 11: because they're not the commanders at the time that lost

1577
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 11: the commanders as shocking and then we've seen what the

1578
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 11: commanders are this year. But okay, that kind of makes sense.

1579
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 11: But I give them no excuse, no break at all,

1580
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 11: because their defense has not lived up to expectation. Joe Burrow,

1581
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 11: on the other hand, I can't quit him either. I

1582
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 11: can't quit the Bengals, but I can't quit Joe Burrow.

1583
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 11: He's having one of the best.

1584
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 7: Seasons quarterbacks for a team that may not make the

1585
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 7: playoffs that I could ever remember. And people, you know,

1586
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 7: I do QB Index every week.

1587
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 8: And they're like Burrows two highs.

1588
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 7: Team's got a losing record.

1589
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 11: First off, QB or wins are not a.

1590
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 7: QB stat Yeah, thank you, Nick. And secondly, he's playing

1591
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 7: out of his freaking mind. He just set a record

1592
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 7: for most games with three passing touchdowns at three hundred

1593
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 7: plus passing yard in the history of the NFL. He's

1594
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 7: on fire. He's been phenomenal. He's coming off of a

1595
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 7: wrist injury that made people pay attention. Now he was

1596
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 7: holding the water bottle in a football. So if you

1597
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 7: consider all of that, yeah, you have to think he's

1598
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 7: got a case.

1599
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 11: But I hate so much how it's based on team

1600
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 11: performances and.

1601
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 7: Out of it.

1602
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 11: I think if they were one of the top two

1603
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 11: or three teams in the AFC, he'd maybe be in

1604
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 11: the front or right there with Josh Allen for the award.

1605
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 3: Nick, real quick before we let you go.

1606
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: Chiefs obviously clinching the one seed and the AFC can

1607
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,719
Speaker 2: now rest for three weeks until the visional round.

1608
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: Are you picking Kansas City to pull off a threepeat?

1609
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 11: Oh? You know what's going to put me on the.

1610
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 4: Spoting I know, real question.

1611
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 11: Here's the thing, I'm gonna say, no, Okay, And then

1612
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 11: we're going to be in New Orleans and you and

1613
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 11: Carmen are all going to be fitting there, and we're

1614
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 11: going to be four days away from the Jesus the

1615
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 11: Super Bowl again. Okay, yes, that's the way it goes.

1616
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 11: You know what, I'll say this, until they're not there,

1617
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 11: I will expect them to be there.

1618
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 6: And I think a.

1619
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 11: Lot of that has to do with how Andy Reid

1620
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 11: has done a masterful job.

1621
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 7: You know we did. We did Coach of the Year

1622
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 7: ladders on NFL Daily recently and I didn't put Andy

1623
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 7: Reid in my top five because he just is who

1624
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 7: I expected to be as the greatest currently active coach.

1625
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 7: The we have the Goats all the time, and we'll

1626
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 7: do the currently active coach with the GKAC whatever that acronym.

1627
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 7: But like, he's done a phenomenal job with a team

1628
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 7: that has lost weapons, that had does not have a

1629
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 7: good offensive line.

1630
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 11: Joe Toney's playing tackle for them right now. I know

1631
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,520
Speaker 11: Mahomes is having a great year, even if it's not spectactular,

1632
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 11: and it all starts at their coach. So yes, until

1633
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 11: they're knocked out, I am not going to get.

1634
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 5: Them over one Coach of the Year I remember as

1635
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs head coach.

1636
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 3: That's insane.

1637
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: I'm going to this year.

1638
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: It's not going to that insane. Nick we appreciate you

1639
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: so much. Thank you so much for coming on and

1640
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: giving all your insight.

1641
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 7: No, thanks you ha me on love you yet.

1642
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 3: Thanks ive you.

1643
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: All Right, We're gonna take one more break here, but

1644
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: when we come back, we're making our Week seventeen NFL picks.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from the Tark

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Speaker 2: Talk Coom Studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending

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01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: your Saturday afternoon the in between.

1650
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Speaker 3: With Carme and me.

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Speaker 2: We hope you had a good time with us, because

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Speaker 2: we did. And we're gonna wrap things up with our

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Speaker 2: Week seventeen NFL pick. So Producer Bo lead us through here.

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Speaker 12: Okay, so real quick, here your trusted producer Patrick. He

1655
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 12: says that Carmen went four and one last week and

1656
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 12: Alex went three and two. Yes, she did bring your

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Speaker 12: current records to forty nine in thirty for Alex and

1658
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 12: forty seven.

1659
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Speaker 5: So yeah, come back, come back.

1660
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 4: Every time I wish I got subscribed. That's all the

1661
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 4: comeback is on.

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Speaker 12: We're going to start with the Cardinals at the Rams

1663
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 12: tonight in Los Angeles. The Rams a six and a

1664
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 12: half point favorite.

1665
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: Rams are fighting for the NFC WES. They are playing

1666
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: for their playoff hopes Seattle one this week already, so

1667
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: they need to win. I'm taking the Rams here. It's

1668
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: it's always scary though.

1669
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: When it's a divisional game and one team has nothing

1670
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 3: to lose.

1671
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 2: Cards are out, so it's like you just want to

1672
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 2: do whatever you can to knock them out and not

1673
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: see them get it.

1674
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 3: But they need to.

1675
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: Win, and then Week eighteen is going to be a

1676
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: win and you're in and that's going to be such

1677
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 2: an exciting game.

1678
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1679
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 5: I have the Rams to eighty one point two percent

1680
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 5: playoff chance right now, which is the same as winning

1681
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 5: the division, because they need to win the division or.

1682
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,959
Speaker 4: Get in the NFC wildcard race.

1683
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 5: Is yeah, yeah, basically because the NXE NORD.

1684
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take the Rams.

1685
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 5: I don't know that the Cardinals have the culture quite

1686
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 5: yet to be the ones to kind.

1687
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 4: Of like play out of spite.

1688
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't see that.

1689
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 5: I don't see that fire from the Cardinals quite And

1690
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,440
Speaker 5: feel great to put me wrong, because you're right, division games.

1691
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 4: It's always weird, always weird.

1692
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 11: All right.

1693
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 12: Next up, the Dallas Cowboys what's left of them, head

1694
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 12: to Philadelphia to take on the Eagles wearing their Kelly

1695
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 12: Green jerseys tomorrow. Eagle's a seven point home favorite in

1696
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 12: this one.

1697
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, the Eagles are gonna be without Jaalen Hurts,

1698
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 5: so that's and like the Cowboys have actually been playing

1699
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 5: some good football, leave it to the Dallas Cowboys to

1700
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 5: start trying when it doesn't matter anymore, like December Kings

1701
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 5: when it doesn't matter. I actually am taking the Cowboys

1702
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 5: in there. It's really interesting. I know it's in Philadelphia,

1703
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 5: so that's that's. I don't know, I'm just something just

1704
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 5: tells me to take the Cowboys because you know what

1705
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 5: they will play out of spite they hate.

1706
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 3: They will know they will. I mean, yeah, without.

1707
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts like a Saquon AND's gonna do things. But

1708
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's gonna be enough.

1709
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 2: This is tough because they did not look good without

1710
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts last week.

1711
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 3: I am gonna take.

1712
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: The Eagles just because they have so much to play

1713
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 2: for and can clinch the NFC East with a win.

1714
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: Small chance, not looking great to get that one seed,

1715
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: but I just I think it'll help that Ceedee Lamb

1716
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 2: is officially out for the Cowboys. But yeah, I'm gonna

1717
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: take the Eagles here. I'm just hoping the home field

1718
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: advantage helps.

1719
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 12: The funniest thing possible is the Eagles losing and then

1720
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 12: forcing a game, a game in New York against New York.

1721
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 5: But they have to win to win the Pagant.

1722
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 7: Yes.

1723
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 12: Yeah, and they all hate each other already, so it'll

1724
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 12: be really good. Next up, the Packers a one point favorite,

1725
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 12: although I think this has moved towards the Vikings.

1726
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 4: I believe the change.

1727
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 9: The Vikings are one and.

1728
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 12: A half point favor right now. Oh okay, I will

1729
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 12: double check while you guys are talking, But yes, the

1730
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 12: Packers at the Vikings. Close game either way.

1731
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, a divisional matchup with a lot

1732
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: on the line here. Vikings are on an eight game

1733
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: win streak. They're a lottest team, like one of those

1734
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 2: teams in the NFL right now, they're flying under the radar.

1735
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 2: They're playing for that one seed in the NFC and

1736
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 2: win the NFC North. It's going to be a great

1737
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 2: game either way. But I'm going to give the home

1738
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: field advantage and playing for Tad Mooren to the Vikings here.

1739
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a total toss of.

1740
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 5: The Packers are playing some phenomenal football Toyota than Jordan

1741
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 5: Love and the total Backs right now. But on top

1742
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 5: of that, their defense has figured out how to get

1743
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 5: pressure after that bye week, and they are They're a

1744
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 5: complete team.

1745
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 4: They're very, very scary.

1746
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Vikings, though, I just I want this all

1747
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 5: to come.

1748
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 4: Down a Week eight team.

1749
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 5: I know, I want the Vikings Lions to mean as

1750
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 5: much as possible, So this is just wishful thinking, but

1751
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 5: I want I'm picking the Vikings, okay.

1752
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, And the Vikings have became a one and a

1753
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 12: half become a one.

1754
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 5: And a half way what is one and a half point?

1755
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1756
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 12: The Atlanta Falcons head to Washington hig on the Commanders,

1757
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 12: two rookies facing off against each other and Michael Pennix

1758
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 12: and Jane Daniels. The Commander is a four point favorite

1759
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 12: at home here.

1760
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going Commanders at home. They're playing good football again.

1761
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 5: They're still trying to keep pace with the Eagles. There's

1762
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 5: still a chance, especially if the Eagles, you know, end

1763
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 5: up losing like this is.

1764
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 4: This is a toss up in this division. They hate

1765
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 4: each other.

1766
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 5: So I'm going with the Commanders at this point, despite

1767
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 5: the fact the Falcons of everything to play for you. Yeah,

1768
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 5: Nancy sound is a real toss up, but I want

1769
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 5: it to go.

1770
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: I love I love these games, like there is so

1771
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: much on the line down the stretch, Like this is

1772
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: what you want to see at the end of the season.

1773
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 5: The NFL backloaded divisions. Guy, I know, I know, I schedules.

1774
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to take the Commanders. Jane Daniels has just

1775
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 2: had himself a rookie season. I think he finishes it strong,

1776
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: gets the win, it clinches a playoff spot.

1777
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 5: All right, real quick?

1778
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 12: Last one Lions three and a half points on the

1779
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 12: road in San Francisco against the Niners.

1780
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: It's going to be the Lions. They're playing for the

1781
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: one seed and the division. They need this. We heard

1782
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell say no matter what, he's not rusting anybody.

1783
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 2: They're they're going They're going to win. They're gonna win,

1784
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: and he never would.

1785
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 5: They're playing great football despite all of their injuries, very

1786
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 5: complete football. And the forty nine ers are decimated by injury.

1787
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 5: They have no more motivation. They have nothing to to

1788
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 5: play for.

1789
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: Lions Lions.

1790
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 2: Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon in between with us.

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01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week, same time, same place,