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Speaker 1: Welcome in to jag Vam Pennantie Stevens here, Lady Brian

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Speaker 1: Sex and John Osier as well. We're coming to you

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Speaker 1: on a Tuesday after we traveled back from the game

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Speaker 1: in London at Wembley Stadium on Sunday. It was a

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Speaker 1: tough one to watch right out of the gate. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into our big things, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by g e AJ Government Employees Health Association Benefits for federal.

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Speaker 2: Employees and retirees.

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Speaker 1: So big thing number one is question mark, what did

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Speaker 1: we see out there exactly? We thought we were gonna

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Speaker 1: get a competitive game, Liam Cohen going up against his

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Speaker 1: former employers and the RAMS, and we saw nothing of

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Speaker 1: the sort. Liam talked a little bit about the slow start, just.

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Speaker 3: Like everybody else in there. In there, you know, you

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Speaker 3: gotta look inward first, like what am I doing as

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Speaker 3: the head football coach. That's not clear right now? How

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Speaker 3: am I communicating these things? How am I and how

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Speaker 3: are we practicing these things? That's what I've got to

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Speaker 3: look at, right I mean, I've got to look at

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Speaker 3: the whole thing ultimately, But not going to stand up

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Speaker 3: here and blame these players. It starts with me.

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Speaker 1: Brian coach pointing the finger at himself. His team didn't

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Speaker 1: look prepared to start that game.

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Speaker 4: No, you know, I was at a commercial flight from

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Speaker 4: London to Jacksonville yesterday and surrounded by Jaguars fans, and

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Speaker 4: I feel compelled to say this. They all have a

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Speaker 4: lot of confidence in the coach. What they saw the

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Speaker 4: first four weeks is what they believe this team is.

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Speaker 4: Despite the fact John in the last two weeks we

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Speaker 4: have seen what twenty three penalties, fourteen sacks, no takeaways,

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Speaker 4: only three touchdowns, there is a belief level in what

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Speaker 4: he just did there in that sound by, which was

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Speaker 4: to put it back on himself and suggest that he

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Speaker 4: and his staff have to do things to get it solved.

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Speaker 4: I'm not exactly sure what the right move is when

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Speaker 4: it was misst after mistake and penalty after penalty that

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Speaker 4: cost them, but at least this coach is somebody who

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Speaker 4: understands that it starts with him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, I think we're seeing that the Seahawks game

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Speaker 5: was a game against a very good team. So first

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Speaker 5: six weeks. Fine. Look, sometimes coaches in the next day

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Speaker 5: press conference sort of meander through and you don't really

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Speaker 5: know what they're getting at Liam on Monday was very clear,

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Speaker 5: and I think when you look at this game, he

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Speaker 5: couldn't be more right. They were in third or second

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Speaker 5: and long the first three drives. They have got to

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Speaker 5: stay in managible situations and they can't be making mistakes

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Speaker 5: to put themselves behind sticks early in gangs. To me,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna talk for two weeks about what's wrong. They

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Speaker 5: have to stop making mistakes so they can find out

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Speaker 5: if they're any good or not. And I think they

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Speaker 5: are good when they don't put themselves in these situations.

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Speaker 4: Well, KAYI, this morning, they're sitting in his position in

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Speaker 4: the seventh spot in the AFC, despite these last two

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Speaker 4: losses that leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth. You know,

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Speaker 4: they're tied for the fourth best record in football, and

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Speaker 4: at four and three they're one spot ahead of Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: They'd be in at the season ended today. It doesn't,

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Speaker 4: but they're in a good spot at least to use

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Speaker 4: these two weeks wisely and get back to where they

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Speaker 4: were playing by the time they take the field in

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Speaker 4: Vegas on November two.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's good to remember that starting the season we

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Speaker 1: knew this tough part of the schedule was going to

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Speaker 1: be that first part, and for them to be four

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Speaker 1: and three is impressive. At this point, let's go to

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Speaker 1: big thing number two. We're gonna be a little more

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Speaker 1: positive here. Exclamation point. Travis Hunter get his first career touchdown.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of a coming out party. Is they

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Speaker 1: kind of forced it to him a little bit more

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Speaker 1: on offense this week. We didn't see a ton of

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Speaker 1: him on defense though, John, But I have to imagine

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Speaker 1: after what we've seen from Travis Hunter, he has to

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Speaker 1: be more of the offensive.

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Speaker 2: Game plan going forward.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he does. And I'm getting a questions

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Speaker 5: and I'm sure you guys are why they just play

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Speaker 5: think as a coaching staff, you're now only looking at

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Speaker 5: don't think you're gonna see him playing ninety five percent

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Speaker 5: the challenge remains Brian. They sort of still have to

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Speaker 5: hold him back. He would go out there and do

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Speaker 5: anything they asked him to do. You gotta protect him,

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Speaker 5: but he's gonna play more offensively. I don't know what

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Speaker 5: but he's got to have the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: He's a dynamic player, as we've seen all season long,

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Speaker 4: and he's just I don't know. He's one of those

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Speaker 4: guys that he makes things happen no matter what you're

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Speaker 4: asking him to do. I think he's your best defensive back.

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Speaker 4: He might be your best defensive player right now based

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Speaker 4: on his production. The footwork on that third downplay Kui

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Speaker 4: spectacular at the timing when the ball got into the

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Speaker 4: you just see that there's defenders all around him, and

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Speaker 4: yet if the ball is put where he can make

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Speaker 4: best player on offense and your best player on defense.

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Speaker 4: One man's opinion. Figure out how to make that work.

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Speaker 4: You know how much he can sustain because, like you

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Speaker 4: were talking about, John, it's a long season and you

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Speaker 4: can't play ninety five percent of the snaps every game

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Speaker 4: and expect he's going to be on the field when

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Speaker 4: the season comes to a close. I just I don't

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Speaker 4: a balance there somewhere. Smarter people than me will find it,

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Speaker 4: and I can't wait to see it.

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Speaker 2: Our final big thing today is going to be period. Now.

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Speaker 2: Not everything is wrong, but a lot of things do

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Speaker 2: need to be fixed.

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Speaker 1: One of those penalties. They had thirteen penalties against the Rams,

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Speaker 1: which isn't going to cut it by any means. And

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Speaker 1: then also just you know the sacks allowed in that game.

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Speaker 1: He allowed seven sacks for the second straight week. Also

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Speaker 1: the offensive line and the defensive line failing to get

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Speaker 1: to the Matt stafford at all. So, Brian, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff that needs to be worked on. What's

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, So the offensive line is given up fourteen

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Speaker 4: Patrick McCary had three of the thirteen penalties, two for

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Speaker 4: in Baltimore and is doing that. You're getting Whitett Mylin back. Okay,

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Speaker 4: in that group because the last two weeks have really

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not so concerned about I don't think these

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Speaker 5: their situation, meaning you're down fourteen nothing, twenty one nothing

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Speaker 5: When you're down that big to start, you're gonna give

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Speaker 5: team knows you need to pass. I'm gonna harp on

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Speaker 5: Leam's gonna harp on it, and it's what's wrong. You

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Speaker 5: have to start better. You can't keep being down seven

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Speaker 5: ten can't be second and thirteen because of a sack

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Speaker 5: this team has the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us here on JAGSA. I'm coming up after

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Speaker 1: the break. We'll look back at some of the tape

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Speaker 1: from a Sunday's game at Wembley Stadium's.

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Speaker 2: Back into jag ZAM.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna look back at some of the tape from Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I don't wanna call it highlights because there wasn't a

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Speaker 1: ton of those in the game, but we will look

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Speaker 1: at some moments and maybe some things that we can

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Speaker 1: glean from.

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Speaker 2: What we saw go down.

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Speaker 1: So I will start out with the first play of

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Speaker 1: the game, because when I say, I don't think they

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Speaker 1: were ready to go from the first nap. This was

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Speaker 1: kind of a tough one to immediately take a sack

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Speaker 1: right there, And I think even said in his postgame

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Speaker 5: In the ball.

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Speaker 4: Second straight week, starting the game on the first play

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Speaker 5: On the sack. Yeah, it You wonder if you're you're

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Speaker 5: drifting that way. He just doesn't want to take any

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Speaker 5: it seems like from that point on you were trying

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Speaker 4: And I don't like the idea of not taking any chance.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this game, and especially this coach is all

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Speaker 1: We'll move it forward a little bit because I think

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Speaker 1: the Rams got after it quite quickly, and before we

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Speaker 1: knew it was seven to twenty one. Nothing but DeVante Adams,

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Speaker 1: you know, three touchdowns on the day with just whoever

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Speaker 2: Any given moment.

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Speaker 1: And this is part of my frustration, was out seeing

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Speaker 1: he didn't play on defense until the third quarter, and

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Speaker 1: by then it almost felt out of hand, right, So yes,

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Speaker 1: he's at this point your best offensive player, but he's

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Speaker 1: still your best cornerback. So yeah, it's getting to a

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Speaker 1: point where you know it would have been well. Also,

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Speaker 1: we just we'll talk about the past break up, but

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Speaker 1: it was tough with seeing what the secondary was trying

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Speaker 1: Dewey hasn'ten playing great the last two weeks and just

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Speaker 1: some miscommunications.

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Speaker 2: It's tough to see from the defense. John from just

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Speaker 2: right out of the gator.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look at I think the same thing on that

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Speaker 5: side of the ball, Y you uh, you can't get

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Speaker 5: down to good teams. The Jaguars aren't good enough yet

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Speaker 5: to play from behind and play well because when good

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Speaker 5: want and their situations add up to better situations than yours.

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Speaker 5: So again, I think it goes back to the very beginning.

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Speaker 5: They're a good team. They can win in situations. The

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Speaker 5: Jaguars don't have multiple ways to win. They have to

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Speaker 6: Away right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go way back. In the nineteen forty

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Speaker 4: You don't look, no doubt, you don't look like the

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Speaker 1: It would have gotten it felt over felt like last

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Speaker 4: So now you get to fourteen seven again, the Rams

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Speaker 5: A lot of situations felt out of their control after.

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Speaker 1: That mentioned it, Cam little misses a kick here, and

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Speaker 5: This kid's been too good for so long, but he

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Speaker 4: I'm with the coach on his approach to sticking with him.

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Speaker 4: Now, and I would I would be very willing to

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Speaker 5: It is funny with kickers though. Maybe in the Seattle

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Speaker 5: It's still a long we will kick it.

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Speaker 7: Help is not on the way, And by that I

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Speaker 4: Wembley Stadium. It's what he said yesterday in his news conference.

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Speaker 4: You got to take what you got because you're not

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Speaker 4: bringing in wholesale replacements to change things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're talking. You're going down the laundry list of

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Speaker 5: what happens in the first year of a regime. When

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Speaker 5: you come in. They have a lot of their guys

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Speaker 5: in good situations. They don't have a mature a Gladstone

445
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Speaker 5: has developed all these spots and they've developed all these players,

446
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Speaker 5: so they need to stay healthy. And I think it's

447
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Speaker 5: what you're talking about. Figure out how to win some

448
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Speaker 5: situations with the guys. He got until you start getting

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Speaker 5: a roster of.

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Speaker 6: Debt and the best. The third example of that is

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Speaker 6: Brenton Strange.

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Speaker 4: You've got Hunter Long and Johnny Munt, and neither one

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Speaker 4: of those guys, both of them combined don't give you

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Speaker 4: what Brenton Strange does, let alone each one in parts

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Speaker 4: and pieces. You're not going to go find a player

456
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Speaker 4: who can do what Brenton Strange does for you. So

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Speaker 4: you've got to figure out something else until you get

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Speaker 4: it back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I went I'm a man of pros, you know,

460
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Speaker 5: I'm probably work with a poet at heart. So I

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Speaker 5: went with fourteen and none won't get it done.

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Speaker 6: That's it, little alliteration.

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Speaker 5: And you know, fourteen sacks and then no sacks on defense.

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Speaker 5: That can't happen. And again I go back to the

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Speaker 5: reason it's happening is not because this team is capable

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Speaker 5: of having better numbers on both sides. But you cannot

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Speaker 5: play games where it is so hard to get sacks

468
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Speaker 5: because you're so far down, whether it's so easy to

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Speaker 5: give up sacks when you're in such bad situations. They

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Speaker 5: have to play smart, and they have to get themselves

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Speaker 5: in a situation again where they find out if they

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Speaker 5: can be a more functioning team than they already are,

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Speaker 5: you're probably not gonna blow a lot of teams out,

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Speaker 5: and you're probably not gonna have a lot of twenty

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Speaker 5: one point comebacks. You have to stay above your feet

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Speaker 5: in these games and figure out a way to be

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Speaker 5: in the situations where you can succeed.

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Speaker 4: Well, they did it against Kansas City because they were

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Speaker 4: pretty good on third.

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Speaker 5: Down that night and no penalties and before right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, four penalties, and so they were in a position

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Speaker 4: where they could play and come back down fourteen nothing

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Speaker 4: to take the lead and then eventually win the ball game.

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Speaker 4: But what you're saying is what we talked about earlier.

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Speaker 4: There's a formula and then the formulas you gotta have sacks.

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Speaker 4: You've got to have sacks, and you have got to

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Speaker 4: protect your quarterback, and the formula does not being played

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, but I did like the rhyme. John appreciated it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Mine is about Travis Hunter, because I think it is

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Speaker 1: time to see what we've got in the sense of

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Speaker 1: I know they're working through playing time. It seems to

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Speaker 1: be changing week by week. But after seeing that play

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Speaker 1: against DeVante Adams, for me. I think he needs to

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Speaker 1: be on defense as much as physically possible, and I

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Speaker 1: still think he should be a focus on offense. I

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Speaker 1: also haven't seen a point yet where he's been winded

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Speaker 1: and wanting to come out of a game. So I

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Speaker 1: think it's time to start pushing those numbers up on

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Speaker 1: both sides in the game and seeing once you reach

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Speaker 1: that limit. You haven't seen it yet, And I think

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Speaker 1: at this point he's your best player at times on defense,

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Speaker 1: and he is definitely your best player on offense right now,

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Speaker 1: and I think we need to.

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Speaker 2: See him in that role. That's the role they want

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Speaker 2: him to be in.

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Speaker 1: They told talked about him changing the game, and it

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Speaker 1: now needs to be the time to do that, think,

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Speaker 1: especially at the bye week. He's gotten through a chunk

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Speaker 1: of the season already. You don't necessarily have to worry

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Speaker 1: about the burnout as much.

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Speaker 2: Now's the time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what's gonna be interesting here Brian is

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Speaker 5: finding out if he's look he was dynamic on offense

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Speaker 5: the other day. Is he a player? And I don't

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Speaker 5: know the answer to this. Can he be your one? Meaning? Uh,

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Speaker 5: does he know enough about all the receiver positions where

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Speaker 5: you can say he is your one, he's going to

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Speaker 5: draw a double coverage that's gonna open up things right

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Speaker 5: for other players? Or is he more situationally at wide receiver?

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Speaker 5: He's really really good. I mean, and what you've see

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Speaker 5: in a receiver is that there's a point in the

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Speaker 5: future Uh. I don't know how quick they get there

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Speaker 5: where he is going to have to be accounted for

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Speaker 5: defensively and you're gonna be able to design your game

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Speaker 5: plan on they have to cover Travis over here. Now

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Speaker 5: here's what we can do based off that.

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Speaker 4: I think the head coach has told us repeatedly since

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Speaker 4: training camp that it was gonna be a process for

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Speaker 4: him to figure out.

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Speaker 6: All three positions.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any way It's not fair to

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Speaker 4: expect that he could come in here and know more

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Speaker 4: than the one position. To know three right now would

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Speaker 4: be ridiculous. He will get there, though, So yeah, and eventually,

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Speaker 4: as you just said, he he's going to be that guy. Uh,

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Speaker 4: but right now so naturally on defense, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: just I don't know how you take a player with

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Speaker 4: those skills at a position of such great need and

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Speaker 4: not play just put.

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Speaker 2: Him out there on their best guy. Let him play football.

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Speaker 2: Uh say with us after break will tell you what's

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Speaker 2: coming up the rest of the week. Here for the

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Speaker 2: bye week Jags fans.

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Speaker 8: I feel like we're going, we were really going together

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Speaker 8: and we're getting better. But today we I feel like

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Speaker 8: we had a step back. And then as a leader,

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Speaker 8: I feel like that that's that's definitely one of me

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Speaker 8: being a uh a big key part in that. But

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Speaker 8: I'll let you guys know that I let him down

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Speaker 8: and they appreciated me. But like I said, man, I

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Speaker 8: I really do love 'em and we we gonna get better.

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Speaker 8: And and I know, I know I've I've been through

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Speaker 8: my fair share of adversity, so I think we can

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Speaker 8: we can get through this event today.

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Speaker 2: For the defense as well, we can talk a lot

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Speaker 2: about the offense.

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Speaker 1: Defense had a tough one and Jordan louis probably uncharacteristically bad.

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Speaker 2: Game for him.

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Speaker 1: This defense has looked a lot different when they have

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Speaker 1: him to get in the takeaways, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: something that is going to have to be addressed in

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Speaker 1: the bye.

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Speaker 6: Week and we talked about it has the same with

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Speaker 6: that Travon Walker.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and again I'm just a big fan of Trayvon.

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Speaker 5: Obviously he got hurt against San Francisco. The defense has

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Speaker 5: not looked the.

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Speaker 1: Same and when he went out of that game is

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Speaker 1: when they.

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Speaker 2: Started to get back into it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So this team, you can say all you went

577
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Speaker 5: about not talking about injuries, and you have to have debt.

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Speaker 5: There are certain guys this team needs on the field.

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Speaker 6: I ain't Travon, Bretton Stranger two guys absolutely.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to throw this in one more time.

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Speaker 4: Being on that flight, on the commercial flight home out

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Speaker 4: in London, there were so many Jaguars fans who had

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Speaker 4: such a good time. I mean, they hated that the

585
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Speaker 4: team lost, but they enjoyed the game at Wembley STAIU

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Speaker 4: and they enjoyed London. They enjoyed the whole spectacle of it.

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Speaker 4: So it was fun to listen to them talk. And

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Speaker 4: I didn't hear a lot of same old jaggs. I

589
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Speaker 4: heard a lot of how's Liam going to fix it?

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Speaker 4: So I just that was a fun vibe to be around.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday.

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Speaker 4: There were a lot of energetic people who believe that

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Speaker 4: this team is different. It's hard to say it when

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Speaker 4: they get beat like that in London right a year

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Speaker 4: after they got beat like that by the Bears, It's

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Speaker 4: hard to bear that out. But people kind of understand it.

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Speaker 4: They kind of see that things are starting to change,

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Speaker 4: albeit slower.

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Speaker 1: Than they'd like, and trust in some understanding that the

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Speaker 1: problems will be addressed.

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Speaker 4: Some belief in Tony Biselli, James Gladstone and Liam Cohen.

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Speaker 4: We've heard it, we've kind of felt it. Yesterday was

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Speaker 4: like a nine hour focus group on the back of

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Speaker 4: a Virgin Airlines on the way from heath Row to Atlanta,

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Speaker 4: so the feedback was pretty optimistic.

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Speaker 2: Here's hoping we're going to be with you once more

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll talk a little bit about kind of look

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Speaker 1: back at the first seven weeks or so and what

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Speaker 1: we've got coming up after the bye week as we

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Speaker 1: look ahead as well, So we'll see you back here

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Speaker 1: in DIAXAM tomorrows.

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Speaker 5: Contens