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Speaker 2: Episode four eleven, Thomas Rhett Mike, what do you think

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Speaker 3: I think this is like the most the artist has

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like Thomas Rhett and you know, we've definitely had

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Speaker 2: I told him that we were making our mind up

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Speaker 2: It's called Angels. Here's a little clip in Thomas Rhet's

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Speaker 2: why that's an unconventional type of love song. So here

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Speaker 2: we go Thomas Rhett, follow him at. Thomas Rhett akins

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Speaker 2: A fun fact about Thomas Rhett. If you know him

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Speaker 2: Thomas htt got it? Thank you, Thomas Rhett, And here

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Speaker 2: Does it ever feel problematic to you that you're like, man,

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, until the world kind of tells

436
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,679
Speaker 1: me what is good. I'm not even sure that I

437
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,399
Speaker 1: know what good is anymore. And so I've had to

438
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 1: take a big step back from even the music I've

439
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 1: been writing, like I haven't listened to and this is

440
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: rare for me, but like when I'm about to start

441
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,719
Speaker 1: making records, man, I'm listening to my demos daily, like

442
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 1: in the car, in the gym on the lake with

443
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 1: my kids, and I haven't listened to a song of

444
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 1: mine in two months because I have to just get

445
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 1: so far away from it that when I come back

446
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 1: to it for the first real time, I want to

447
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 1: be blown away by it rather than like, gosh, I

448
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,719
Speaker 1: think this is the next record, but I'm sort of

449
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,679
Speaker 1: like already sick of it and it's coming out in

450
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 1: three months, you know what I'm saying.

451
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 2: I would assume that that's already the case with most people,

452
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 2: But like how you're talking about and the way that

453
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 2: you've done it, I could see where that would be

454
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 2: amplified if you're not putting it out like you'd probably

455
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: like to do. Like you said, every week it's something else.

456
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 2: It's something else that you could quickly be tired of

457
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 2: that season that you're in right then and beyond to

458
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,640
Speaker 2: something else. But you've already started this project and you're still, well,

459
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 2: you created all this in that season.

460
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: You can't just let it go.

461
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it would have been easy just to put

462
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 2: it out then, for sure, So I can see where

463
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,360
Speaker 2: that does a creative dilemma.

464
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: But I think I'm still I'm still a little bit

465
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 1: of the old school mindset of like, if you have

466
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 1: a good body of work, at least give it a

467
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 1: real chance and give it a real plan. You know what,

468
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, I feel like I'm not one of

469
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 1: those artists that can just like chunk songs out and

470
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: hope that they become famous on TikTok. Like, I just

471
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: don't know that I'm one of those artists that can

472
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: happen to. Maybe I could have like a viral song,

473
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 1: but like, that's not how I want to release music.

474
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Speaker 3: Is it?

475
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 2: Because you don't know if you're Because I don't agree

476
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: with what you're saying about you. I think you don't

477
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 2: think you should do it. But I think you're as

478
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 2: good as anybody else putting music on TikTok. But are

479
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: you Because the nature of that is you got to

480
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 2: put a bunch of it that doesn't work for sure. And

481
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: so is that part of it too, where you don't

482
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Speaker 2: want to put a bunch of stuff that you know,

483
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 2: just a numbers game. If you put out five things,

484
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 2: three and a half or four of them is not

485
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: gonna work for sure.

486
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 1: It's weird. Man. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have

487
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 1: an answer.

488
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 4: Hank Ty, the Bobby Cast will be right back and

489
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 4: we're back on the Bobby Cast.

490
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Speaker 2: TikTok's cool to me again for music because it's really

491
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: what I use it for now. I've used TikTok for

492
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 2: a lot of different things. Through again, I'll use the

493
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: word seasons where it's like funny stuff and then it's

494
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 2: like a lot of golf videos. But now I watch

495
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: and find a lot of great music that I listened

496
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 2: to personally. For example, So there's one girl woman, her

497
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 2: name is Jackie Vincent. She's from Austin and she's a

498
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: blues player and she's so good and it's rare. I'm

499
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 2: so jaded. You're jaded too, in the way I would

500
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: just get to be around great people. It's a beautiful jadedness.

501
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 2: See so much greatness all the time. You really got

502
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: to be different to stand down.

503
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: Stand out.

504
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: And I like saw it and I was like, oh

505
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 2: my god, Like rarely do I hear or see anything

506
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: where you're just like it just feels different for sure,

507
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 2: And so I started following her. And the cool thing

508
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: about algorithm, Well, the bad thing is they know everything

509
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: you're doing, and they monitor you and big brothers watching

510
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: in China's god as all that stuff that doesn't matter.

511
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 2: But the good thing is they like, know what kind

512
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: of music you like?

513
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: Ye?

514
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: Last night I'm on and there used to be a

515
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: group called Carmen and it was two people, my dear

516
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: and mccarmen. It was a guy and the girl. Okay,

517
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: so he was They were a singer and rapper and

518
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,239
Speaker 2: it was like the two thousands. And I saw this

519
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: girl and her name was like Queen something, and she's

520
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: speed wrapping like bust rhymes, and I'm like, I think

521
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: that's the woman from Karmen. So I went into it

522
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: and it was her, but without TikTok and me just

523
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: flipping through and finding this for sure, I just don't

524
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: know if I wouldn't be completely bored with music again

525
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 2: at this point because being so jaded by it. What

526
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: if you were get on your TikTok? What what do

527
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: you see on yours? Because of what you're looking at?

528
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: Can I be very honest with you?

529
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather not lie unless it's a really good lie.

530
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: I haven't been on social media since January.

531
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's great. That's even weirder and better than what

532
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: you would have said. Yeah, why because I'd rather go

533
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: down that road.

534
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was getting to a point where, I mean,

535
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: it sounds super cliche to say it, but it was

536
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: just taking up so much of my time, you know

537
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I was finding so much of

538
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: my worth in a post, and like, especially since all

539
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: the algorithm stuff changed, you started to get you started

540
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: to be like man, like I used to post videos

541
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: and they'd get like a million views, no doubt. And

542
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: then you start to see this thing of like, Okay,

543
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: my views are starting to go down. Does that mean

544
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: that I am starting to suck more? You know what

545
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's what That's what my brain would

546
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: tell me.

547
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 2: That's what I think. That's I think it's probably everybody

548
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: a creative. I think that is absolutely fair.

549
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: And so you know, then you would like put songs

550
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: out and then some people would think they were really cool,

551
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: and then some people would just hate on them. And

552
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: then you start to see all the people in our

553
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: genre that the bloggers just be like this, this is

554
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: trash Thomas Repp music, this is not what he's best

555
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: at all these kind of things, and so then you

556
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: start making music out of fear. You start produce. One

557
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: of my producers named Julian said, you can't work out

558
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: of hit desperation, you have to work out of hit inspiration.

559
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: And I think for a while there dude, I was

560
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: working out of hit desperation because I was so terrified

561
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: of what this genre would think about what I thought

562
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: was cool that it got to a point where I

563
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: just wanted to write what I think they think would

564
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: be cool.

565
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 2: It's a lot of predicting going on, a.

566
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: Lot of predicting of being like, well, maybe if I

567
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: write songs that sort of feel like a loop comes thing,

568
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: then these people will kind of think. I'm like, okay again,

569
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And maybe if I can

570
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: do some of this stuff that like Morgan is doing,

571
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: then maybe this group will think that I maybe I

572
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: can fit into that group. But I didn't like get

573
00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: here by ever fitting into a grip.

574
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: You actually did the opposite.

575
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: I did the complete opposite, and so I started to

576
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: really not be myself anymore, just kind of lamed right

577
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: with honestly just vanilla straight down the middle stuff.

578
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: Okay, what was the bottom for you that made you go?

579
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: I got to get up. I have to because something

580
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: had to happen for you to go. I got to

581
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: make a change in my life.

582
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it was. It was. It was around Christmas

583
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: time last year, and like I kind of go into

584
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: weird places when I'm off the road, because it feels

585
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: like a therapy. Are all your podcasts like therapy sessions, Like.

586
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: Hey buddy, I am who am?

587
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: Okay? I go to a lot of therapy myself, maybe

588
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: the same. But when I'm off the road is a

589
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: really challenging time for me because when you're on the road,

590
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: you're getting three straight nights of like dopamine.

591
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: Celebrations, Yes, love, how are you?

592
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? And then you come home and I love

593
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: my children and I love my wife. It is the

594
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: complete opposite. It's like retractable dopamine, if that makes any sense.

595
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I will leave a stage being told I'm

596
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: the funniest person in the whole world by a couple

597
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 2: thousand people are and then my wife's like, you did

598
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 2: not take out the trash, and she loved me more

599
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: than they ever will for sure. But you're right that

600
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: dopem it is not and you you just feel it's

601
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: a different kind of loneliness, no doubt.

602
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know I was off the road. I've

603
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: been off the road for like two or three months

604
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: and just constantly in my freaking phone, you know what

605
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean. Like my kids are like literally asking me

606
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: questions upon question, and I'm literally just I can't. I'm

607
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: not even hearing them because I'm just here. And so yeah,

608
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: it was like January first. It was like one of

609
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: my like New Year's you know, resolution type things that

610
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: I thought would last for like two weeks because I've

611
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: never really fully quit social media, and then yeah, January, man,

612
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't even seen an app since January.

613
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: So I hired a team. I mean, everything that we

614
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: post is from me. It's just that I'm not physically

615
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: on scrolling looking at the comments doing the stuff.

616
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: Why I got a message from you to day, I

617
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: send you a much Apple gift cards because you said

618
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: I needed to send you that. Gosh, you were like

619
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: any Apple gift cards and bitcoin, so I sent you.

620
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Said yeah, yeah, so you should have that. That wasn't you.

621
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: That was the son of a gun.

622
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: I got scammed again. Good self awareness. I think we

623
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 2: all know. I have a friend. You know him too.

624
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: He's one of my best friends. I won't say his

625
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: name here, but he locks his apps up. He has

626
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: a it's not Dirk's, but Dirk's also does this, but

627
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: he goes to a flip phone at different times during

628
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: the month when he's starting to feel a little anxious,

629
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: and then when he's not and he's on his smartphone,

630
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: there is an app. Oh, I don't care, Hey, get

631
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: on it's it's Twitter.

632
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: Twitter. Yeah, it's a Twitter notification.

633
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: Don't forget to me. He has an app that locks

634
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: all of his social media up at like five pm

635
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: and you can't get off. You can't get on it

636
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: unless you have the code. The only person has his

637
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: code's manager, gotcha, And so he is. I would like

638
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: delete it off my phone every day and then just

639
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: re download it. I would do that and then just

640
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: then get on the internet on my computer. Yeah, and

641
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: then do like the browser version. I'd be like, well,

642
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: I'm kind of you. You know, I have a weird

643
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: relationship with social media, but I think that self awareness

644
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 2: is like, that's extremely valuable that you found that. Do

645
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: you think you'll ever go back?

646
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: Probably at some point in time. And I've quit a

647
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: couple of things this year that I mean, I quit

648
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: nicotine this year, which I have. I love nicotine so much.

649
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: Never had it. What's good about it? Get me started? Like,

650
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: sell me on it?

651
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I started dipping when I

652
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: was like, you know, eighteen years old, Grisley winter Green.

653
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: And then when I turned like twenty eight, I started

654
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: using this stuff called zen is that in the pack?

655
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like it's like just nicotine and mint,

656
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: and like it kind of just became I'm trying to

657
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: quit things that are crutches for me, you know what

658
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like social media was a crutch. It was

659
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: the place where I went where I needed validation, but

660
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: then it was the place that I hated when it

661
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: didn't validate me, you know what I'm saying. Polar And

662
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: so nicotine was kind of like like that crutch for me.

663
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: It was just like when I felt nervous, nicotine, when

664
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: I felt weird nicotine, when I felt happy nicotine. It

665
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: was like always just a thing. And so I mean,

666
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: I haven't been off of it that long, but it's

667
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: been been three weeks, which is the longest ever gone.

668
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: So I think I'm gonna start after that. In the

669
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: in the year of quitting nervous, that's a long time.

670
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: So uh So, if you're not dipping, this is gonna

671
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: be a dumb question because I never did what about

672
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: supplemented it with no And that's a different thing because

673
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: I have an addiction. I have a big addict in personality. Same,

674
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: But what's so bad about just nicotine if a lot

675
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: of the stuff that's in cigarettes or a lot of

676
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: the cancer, Because just nicotine.

677
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Itself is correct, So what's so there's actually like a

678
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: couple of good benefits of nicotine apparently from podcasts I've

679
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: listened to. I don't know how much this is right.

680
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying kids should you shouldn't dip, correct,

681
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: you shouldn't smoke, And I'm not talking about all the

682
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: other things inside of it. Yeah, but I'm just curious

683
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: because caffeine and nicotine, I just alone.

684
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the heck's the difference?

685
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: Really, I don't feel like either one of them are

686
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: giving you.

687
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: They can do different things to your brain. So here's

688
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: here's what I'll say. So, when I was using nicotine,

689
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: my like resting heart rate would be like up in

690
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: the mid seventies, which is pretty high. The week I

691
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: quit using zen, my resting heart rate was like forty nine.

692
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: It was that drastic.

693
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: That's a that's signific that's a big jump. And so

694
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: then you mix nicotine and caffeine, you're looking at like eighty,

695
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, I'm young,

696
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: and I'm probably work out. Dude, just having Nickety in

697
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: and caffeine and chill got to day. Yeah, exactly exactly.

698
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: Did you Cardier?

699
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, I think it was just it was

700
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: one of those it was such a comfort blanket, you

701
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like it got to the

702
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: point where it's like if I would, like, if I

703
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a can, I would go rummage through all

704
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: my old camouflage from duck hunting season just to see

705
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: if there was a freaking can. It felt like I

706
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: felt like a drug addict in a way. Did you

707
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: well that?

708
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: And that's an addiction trade?

709
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

710
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: Did you go through with draws at all?

711
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Not as much as I thought I would, because everybody

712
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: told me they were like, man, you just need to

713
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: kind of switch to a different like cause there's three milligram,

714
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: six milligram, all these things. And so I'm not one

715
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: of those people that can just kind of tailor off

716
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: of things. Like you said, hey, only get on Instagram

717
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: one day a week. I'd be like, that's never going

718
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: to work.

719
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't do moderation either, me either, So I.

720
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: Went freaking cold Turkey and for like, you know, five days,

721
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: it really sucked because you kind of start to after coffee,

722
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: oh this is a good time, after a meal, this

723
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: is a fun time. Oh during golf, this is a

724
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: great time. And then you start to kind of figure

725
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: out that it's every part of your day where you

726
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: wanted one. And so I think I'm okay now, Like

727
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: there's definitely mult some times where I'm like, man, I

728
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: would love to have a zin right now, but just

729
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: not trying to get in the habit of telling myself

730
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: no this year so.

731
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: And now the addiction part to me. I come from

732
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: a family of addicts, and it's why I don't.

733
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: I can't.

734
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: I never had to drink because I know that I'll

735
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 2: love it. I wish, Oh man, I'd love to just

736
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: freaking go crazy. I'd love to do heroin. I'd love

737
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: to do it all. But I know I can't do

738
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: any of it because with that we talk about the awareness.

739
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: It's like you not on social media now, I have

740
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: hopefully the awareness of I can't because I know what

741
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: out but I have to put other things in that place. Yeah,

742
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: it's either it's going to be work, Yeah, it's going

743
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: to be golf, right, There's going to be an addiction

744
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: of some sort. My goal is to have a healthier

745
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: addiction because I know there's going to be something there

746
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: for sure. So what are you doing? What are you

747
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: doing now to fill that time and to feel that need?

748
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: It is? Yeah, dude, But I mean yeah, I feel

749
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: like you and I are very similar because I'm I'm

750
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: a pretty phazy person. I don't know if you are.

751
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: But like every couple of years, there's something new that

752
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to master, you know what

753
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I remember five years ago it was

754
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: like fly fishing. Like I'm one of those people that

755
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: will I will go get all the best gear, I

756
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: will follow all the fly fishing accounts. I will buy

757
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 1: the book one Hundred Places of fly Fish Before you

758
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: Die and try to hit all of them. And then

759
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: it's like, once I get to a point where I

760
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: feel like I've done a good enough job, it kind

761
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: of just gets pushed to the side. Does it make

762
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: sense I.

763
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: Did it with poker? Yeah, we could walk down this together.

764
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: But yes, I love to get to a point where

765
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: I've mastered it enough for my brain to be satisfied that, Hey,

766
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: I conquered that, and for me, let's move on and

767
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: let's do something else.

768
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: It's good that you can even say that your brain

769
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: gets somewhat satisfied with stuff, because I think my brain,

770
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: instead of being satisfied, it goes, I'm not satisfied at

771
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: sucking at something else now, Yeah, because I don't know

772
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: if I just have the capacity to be satisy. I

773
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: think you're a bit healthier than I am, and that

774
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: webit a lot there are, right, So it's like I

775
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: don't have the satisfaction. I can't. I don't do that. Well,

776
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: what I do is I'll go, Okay, I got really

777
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: good at freaking playing poker and I'm still enjoying it.

778
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: But I need to find something else that I need

779
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: that I suck at and.

780
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Like build and grow.

781
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: I need to grow all the time to prove to

782
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: myf I'm not a freaking loser. Yeah, you know that.

783
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: That's always that's yeah. Do you do you feel that.

784
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: Way with music at all? Where it's like I have

785
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: got to take a step and I gotta do I

786
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: gotta grow in some way?

787
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

788
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: Or is it I've grown or is it I've just

789
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: changed who I am, and I'm just gonna make music

790
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: based on the person that I am. Now, Like, do

791
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: you ever learn a new instrument at this point?

792
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: I mean, do you ever pick up? You ever try

793
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: to sing a new way? Yeah? I mean I yeah,

794
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: like a vocal.

795
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 2: Lesson even but I started.

796
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: I started doing vocal lessons for four or five years ago,

797
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: and my voice is more powerful today and I can

798
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: hit different notes than I could five years ago.

799
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Because you want to and learn something that you're already

800
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: doing at a high level. Correct, that's crazy to think about,

801
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: Like it is wild. You're already doing it at a

802
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: level higher than ninety nine point and do all the

803
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: nines percent of the entire population of the world. Yet

804
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 2: you go, I'm going to go and learn it more. Yeah,

805
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: that's a bit psychotic, even, Yeah, in a great way.

806
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: I do that. I do it mostly with our show.

807
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: With our show, right, Like it's really hard for me

808
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: to play the same show year.

809
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: After year, live show. You're talking live show.

810
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: And so even if it's to a point where someone

811
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: might get a little bit frustrated that Die Happy Managers

812
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like the record, I feel like I owe

813
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: it to a fan base to at least let them

814
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: know that I put a boatload of thought into the show,

815
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: into the set list and the production, into even the

816
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: way that I speak, in the way that and the

817
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: stories that I decided to share with the crowd, Like

818
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody showing up to Indianapolis for the

819
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: third time to see me and be like, it's the

820
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: same show I saw last year. You know what I'm saying.

821
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: But it does get challenging because my band and I

822
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: talk about this all the time, right, Like that was

823
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: one thing about Taylor's show, Like Taylor does have a

824
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: lot of hits, but she played a lot of songs

825
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: that were not hits. And that takes serious courage to me,

826
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: because dude, I walk out there. We have like two

827
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: songs in our ninety five minute show that weren't hits too,

828
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: And every single night my heart starts race before I

829
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: play them, because I go, does anyone care about this

830
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: song that I loved on record? Too? Like it's just

831
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: wasting the crowd's time.

832
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: Do you start to look at them as who's walking

833
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: out or who's getting a beer? Or oh yeah, And

834
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: even though it's probably the same amount of exact amount

835
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: of people, Then when you're doing one of your heads.

836
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: You're just noticing, you just notice it different.

837
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: Just then for sure you're purposefully going let me find

838
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: people that don't like me. It's like social media.

839
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a I used to have a real

840
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: I used to have a very unhealthy relationship with crowd

841
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: because it's easy for me to look in the crowd

842
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: and know who is who really wanted to come for me.

843
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: Like I say it in our show every night, I'm like,

844
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: hey to all the dudes that came tonight because their

845
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: girlfriends or their wives begged them to be here, I

846
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: just want to say thank you. You know what I'm saying, Like,

847
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that they feel known and seen,

848
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: and I know that they are here against their will,

849
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: but my goal is for them to leave being like

850
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: that was actually really fun. Yeah you know what I'm saying.

851
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: That's all I want. It's for people to walk away

852
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: with a smile on their face and enjoy their art.

853
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: That's our main mission statement before we take the stage,

854
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: just put smiles in people's faces. But dude, I used

855
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: to five years ago. Man. I remember my wife looked

856
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: at me after a show and she's like, you feel

857
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: better about yourself, because I used to find the one

858
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: dude in every crowd that just hated life, you know

859
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I would call him out, you

860
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I would I would like

861
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: get my guitar and I'd be like, hey, dude, you

862
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: want to you should come up here and sing with me.

863
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: And I'd get him up on stage and I'd be like,

864
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: you look like you really love country music. He's like, yeah,

865
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: I do. And I'm like, man, let's sing some classics together,

866
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And this sounds horrible because

867
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: it is horrible, But I would go play like an

868
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: old Merle Haggard song and I'd be like Memories and

869
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: drank Storm mixed too well, and I'd hatem a microphone

870
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't know the words, and it made me

871
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: feel so good that I knew more classic country than

872
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: that dude. Did you know what I'm saying? Because my

873
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: show is very very pop and eccentric and pop country

874
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: and all the things in day.

875
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: Which you're probably going, Oh, he thinks I'm too pop,

876
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: So I'm going to show him how absolute country. He's

877
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: not as country as I am, exactly. Yeah.

878
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: So I remember walking off stage dude, just feeling like

879
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: the biggest turd, you know what I'm saying. And my

880
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: wife looked at man for the show and she was like,

881
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: do you feel better about yourself? And I said, absolutely not.

882
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: She was saying it in that way, in the way yeah,

883
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: you know.

884
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: What I mean. Yeah, And so it's like I've grown

885
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: so much in the last five years now, I just

886
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: kind of I just kind of take it for what

887
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: it is. And I know the people that love coming

888
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: to my shows and know the people that would rather

889
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: not be there and rather be somewhere else. But I'm

890
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: just trying to make it entertaining and fun for for everybody.

891
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: Man, So I think that if you have any like

892
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm a neurotic about that thing. I feel like. I

893
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: posted a video today of my because I'm touring this

894
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: comedy show. Now we're going to do a special and

895
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: so I'm a little nervous about what goes where. And

896
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: I posted a video today with the guy and he

897
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: was like, I didn't really want to come. My wife

898
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: dragged me here. Yeah, But I didn't know that until

899
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 2: we were doing this thing on stage together. And so

900
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: I would always see the people that didn't want to

901
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: be there and go I'm gonna impress them for sure,

902
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: which wasn't healthy because I should just do what I

903
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: do because obviously people came to see me do what

904
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 2: I do, not stretch myself in ways that maybe uncomfortable

905
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: and not good for the show.

906
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

907
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: Bobby Cast.

908
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: I was talking with Kip Moore, who was doing a

909
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 2: theater show.

910
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: We were talking.

911
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: We were talking about that specifically, like people in the crowd,

912
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: and I told Kip I said, hey, I just stare

913
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: at foreheads now because I don't. I'm too insecure to

914
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: look at faces and smiles and eyes. I look at foreheads.

915
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: And once I talked to a guy after a show

916
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: who was just mean mugging the whole time, just like

917
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: you know, you know you've seen him just not having

918
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: a good time. Yeah, And I only talked to him

919
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 2: because he came up because I was signing much stuff

920
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: and he came up and this is the same dude

921
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: whose mean mugg and he was like that was so

922
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: much fun. And I like, really, I said, you were

923
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: sitting so cause you never smiled. He was like, no,

924
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: that's just how I sit. I'm just not out.

925
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm just not an outward laugher bro. So that's and

926
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: I feel like hopefully we have come to the same conclusion.

927
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 1: It's like people show that they're pumped in very different ways.

928
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: We put our expectations. Yeah, how we would act on

929
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: them exactly that way toward us.

930
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Right Like if I go to Berna Mars concert, I'm

931
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: freaking going to town like I'm dancing, I'm jumping, and

932
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: I expect people that if they're having a good time,

933
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. But this is not how

934
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: it works. And I think for so long I was

935
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: kind of like, man, like, listen up, you know what

936
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, I remember there was a dude on

937
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: the front row one time in a and I reme.

938
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: I remember I was wearing this hat that said Matthews

939
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: on the back and it's the type of compound bow

940
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: that I shoot, and he was wearing a hat with

941
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: the same exact logo on it, and dude, it was

942
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: like song seven and the lights went dark, and I

943
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: literally I told the bands to hold up, and I

944
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: went down on the subway and I looked at that

945
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: guy and I said, are you okay? There's like ten

946
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: thousand people in the room. I said, are you a height?

947
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: I said, because you look like you're having the worst

948
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: time in your life. And he goes, bro, this is

949
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life.

950
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: And I was just telling my wife about how me

951
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: and you probably shoot the same bow. I was like,

952
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: I was like great, and I high fight to him

953
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: and we started the thing. And it was at that

954
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: moment where I was like, man, people just show their

955
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: fun in a different way. And it started to happen

956
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: a lot when we started traveling internationally. I don't know

957
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: if you've heard saying that.

958
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: I bet that culture. I just all different cultures do

959
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: it all to do.

960
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: It's like Western Canada is different than East Coast Canada,

961
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The northeast of the USA

962
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: is different than the southeast of the USA. London shows

963
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: their appreciations super different than Glasgow or Belfast, you know

964
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like you kind of start to

965
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: get this cultural little thing where you go, Okay, we're

966
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: in this part of the world and we understand that

967
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: they just kind of clap here, you know what I'm saying.

968
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Like we were in Texas this weekend and there's a

969
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: lot of people that were pretty rowdy in Texas, but

970
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people like to sit in Texas. That

971
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're having a bad time. It just means

972
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: that that's how they watch concerts. And so at some

973
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: point you kind of got to be like, hey, we're

974
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: going to do it. We do best regardless of what

975
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: is happening out there, you know what I'm saying.

976
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: It was a hard place for me to get to,

977
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: just I just got to do me regardless of for

978
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: sure what they're doing, because I was being so selfish

979
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: thinking that they didn't give me what I would give

980
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: in this same situation, that they're wrong and they must

981
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: hate me, But that's only because I think that what

982
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: I do is the right way to act. Can you

983
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: feel good? And so I needed that lesson and I learned.

984
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: And even with ticket sales and stuff like you're talking

985
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: about being selfish with a crowd, it's like, it's always

986
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: amazed me how you could do a three night run

987
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: in all three towns are within let's say, five hundred

988
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: miles of each other, you know what I'm saying. And

989
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: you sell out the Thursday night and you sell out

990
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: the Saturday night, but the Friday night was the worst

991
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: selling show of the weekend. And you sit in there

992
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: and you go, what is it about this town that's

993
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: right in the dead center of two sellouts, but on

994
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: this one in particular, we had to close this section

995
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: and close that section to make sure that we put

996
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: the people in there that needed to be in there.

997
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: And you kind of go, well, you know, we walk

998
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: on stage and you're like, no, that doesn't not give

999
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: you a pass to go put on a less awesome.

1000
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: Chef strug ice Trug.

1001
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: But you walk out there and you go, well, there's

1002
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: only like it's not sold out, so like, I'm just

1003
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: going to give like seventy percent of myself. But that

1004
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: is the most selfish thing in the world you could

1005
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: ever do to the people that did show up because

1006
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: they wanted to be there. You know what I'm saying.

1007
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking out of my brain because I

1008
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: feel I am. I feel like I'm a loser, right

1009
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: and I didn't sell out, and I focus only on

1010
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: the empty seats, correct, And I think I've gotten better,

1011
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: but only because I was so selfish and such a

1012
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: loser about it for so long. And my wife, My

1013
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: wife has been a great source of slapping me straight

1014
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: a lot of times, right, because no one ever slapped

1015
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: me much. Let's slap me straight, right, Because once you

1016
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: get to a point, it's not like we have a

1017
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: lot of people around us that are just like yeah, no, no, no,

1018
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: we have to we have to at a certain point

1019
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: start to find the people we trust for sure that

1020
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: can give us a bit of pushback. When you eat it,

1021
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: that's right, and it doesn't feel good, and it's and

1022
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: it is so counterintuitive to pursue something that doesn't feel good.

1023
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1024
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: So, but my wife would go, hey, uh, you know

1025
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: the people here that have filled up like eighty five

1026
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: percent of this theater, they're not looking around going I

1027
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: wonder how many empty seats there are.

1028
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Well, he really, he.

1029
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: Must just not be as good as he goes. They

1030
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: spent the same amount of money to each single person.

1031
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: I know it, man. And and she's right. Yeah, my

1032
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: wife says the same thing, dude, like I've called her

1033
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: for ten years. Hey, it's not sold out tonight. She said, Honey,

1034
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: how many times have you told me this? You know

1035
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just get out there and do what

1036
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: you do best.

1037
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: Because the people that bought a ticket came to see

1038
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: you and they don't know, so go give.

1039
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: Them a great show like we played. We were in

1040
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: Chicago last weekend and sold out to the United Center.

1041
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: That's always been a dream of mine to sell that

1042
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: place out. Jordan's house and there was we had a

1043
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: lot of people hanging after the show, and this one

1044
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: girl said, I'm so glad you played at the United

1045
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: Center because it's so much bigger than Wrigley, And I

1046
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: was like, no, it's not. Wriggley is triple the size

1047
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: of this place. But when you start to really see,

1048
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: like how people judge, people think that arenas are stadiums

1049
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: and amptheaters are smaller than arenas. And it's just like

1050
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: we we know because we see the piece of paper.

1051
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: It's granulate that looks at the freaking ticket Master chart

1052
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: and goes, okay, there's fifteen hundred open seats.

1053
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: And there's a percentage of this price.

1054
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody knows, well, they do now, but nobody knows

1055
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: or cares. You know what I'm saying.

1056
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

1057
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

1058
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: I always have a guilt to the this is so stupid.

1059
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: I've never even says before I have a guilt to

1060
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: the promoter even at times, dude the same or I'm like, hey,

1061
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: I feel bad, I'm sorry.

1062
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

1063
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never said that out loud before, but I

1064
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: have a if a show does not do what my

1065
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: expectation was and I'm just like, I'm I'm really sorry

1066
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: about it.

1067
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. And that's where like comparison probably the biggest

1068
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: reason I got off Instagram. Like, I love everybody in

1069
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: this genre. It is nothing but love. But when you

1070
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: watch other people do something better than you, you watch

1071
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: somebody do three nights in an arena and you barely

1072
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: sold out the first one, you kind of go, what

1073
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: do we do wrong? You know what I'm saying, Like,

1074
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: what do I gotta do to sell out two nights

1075
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: at this place? It just may not ever be in

1076
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: the cards for you, you know what I'm saying. And

1077
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: also the three.

1078
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: Nights that they did at the arena, we're only seeing

1079
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: the shots of all.

1080
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: The full parts. Correct, correct, but you know what I'm saying,

1081
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: It's like, for sure, I feel like there's a new

1082
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: record broken every day.

1083
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: Oh with everything, with everything streams on a Friday, from

1084
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: a record that's been a number it's yess.

1085
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: And the emails we get from our publishers and and

1086
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: all these things, and it's just like, man, I must

1087
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: just be are we are we doing okay?

1088
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's a fight to differentiate too, like everybody is

1089
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: finding their way to show that they do what we're

1090
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: talking about, that we deserve to be here correct, and

1091
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: we're all extremely insecure correct or would even be doing

1092
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: this correct? Like why are we trying to find love

1093
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: from creat creating something?

1094
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: You know?

1095
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, it is a it is a constant. The

1096
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: last thing about this that I'll mentioned is just to

1097
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: ask if you do it, because this is if it

1098
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: makes me? People not so crazy. Honestly, before a tour

1099
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: like this last tour, I did like seven shows just

1100
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: here last year. Yeah, and then I was like, you know,

1101
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this show on the road. And so

1102
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: tour's about to go on and I already look at

1103
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: tickets like crazy, I'm again so neurotic. But before they

1104
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: go on sale, I go, man, at this one, this

1105
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: could be the one where it just kind of all

1106
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: doesn't go right anymore and I might have regressed. And

1107
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: that's and I started to get my feelings hurt before

1108
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: it's even time, before there's any even any data.

1109
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Bro, we are the same human being.

1110
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: It's just like, maybe this is this might be when

1111
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: I have to end it, Kate little come and go.

1112
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: The tickets aren't even on sale yet. Why are you

1113
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: already down? And I'm like, because I probably am. People

1114
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: aren't gonna buys many this time.

1115
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so.

1116
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: I get my spiral when there's no there's no need

1117
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: to even start spiraling for sure?

1118
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: Do you do that?

1119
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1120
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: You do? I mean bro, Like yeah, even before this tour,

1121
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: like the day that this tour went on sale, the

1122
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: first thing I want to do is call my manager

1123
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, where are the spots we need

1124
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: to work on. I'm not focused on the fact that

1125
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: we blew six out the first day that went on sale,

1126
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like we saw about in Minneapolis,

1127
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: like within thirty minutes the day that they went on sale.

1128
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: But I sit there and I go, what's wrong? What's

1129
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: wrong with that one? And you know, how can I

1130
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: do we have any time for me to go up

1131
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: there and do like a bunch of interviews, you know, before,

1132
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: so that more people know about it. And at the

1133
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: end of the day, dude, it's like people are coming

1134
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: or they're not, you know what I'm saying. And at

1135
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: some point you got to trust your team. I'm telling

1136
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: this to myself. You got to trust Live Nation, and

1137
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: you got to trust your managers that they go, hey,

1138
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: we haven't even done our big push yet, not a

1139
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: lot of marketing has gone into this. And you also

1140
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: have to know that Instagram now, if you want people

1141
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: to see your stuff, you got to pay Instagram a

1142
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: thousand bucks or whatever it is. And so you got

1143
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: to be mindful of, like how much marketing money are

1144
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: we spending to make sure that all of my whatever

1145
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: five me and followers are seeing this and all that

1146
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And so, yeah, I never focus on

1147
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: the good stuff. It is one of the things that

1148
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do so much more this year of

1149
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: just being like, man, we just sold this freaking place

1150
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: out and it was awesome, instead of just being like, yeah,

1151
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: I know, we saw that one out, but you know,

1152
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: next weekend we got Charlottesville, Virginia, and there's you know,

1153
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: we've only sold like four thousand tickets, and so you know,

1154
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: I think we're just like looking for someone to tell

1155
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: us that it's gonna be okay. You know what I'm saying,

1156
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: At least for me, I complain about my voice Monday

1157
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: through Saturday. I'm like, it ain't gonn work tonight. Man,

1158
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna work.

1159
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 2: Do you feel?

1160
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: And I'm looking for somebody to be like t R

1161
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: this is the seventh millionth time you said your voice

1162
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: isn't gonna work, and you get out there and you

1163
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: kill it. I'm just looking for that weird.

1164
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: About getting sick? Do what are you weird about getting sick? Like? Ah,

1165
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: I might be getting sick a couple of days before

1166
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: it does that.

1167
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: No, I just know my body, and I know that

1168
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm always one hundred percent on Thursday nights, ninety percent

1169
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: on Friday nights, and it's lucky if I'm seventy five

1170
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: on Saturday night. She's how my voice works. And so

1171
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: then you start to go, well, I'm thirty three years old.

1172
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just not working like it did when I

1173
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: was twenty five or whatever, and it's like, no, dude,

1174
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: your voice is fun. You just got to get this

1175
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: to be better, you know what I mean?

1176
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: And then you hear Ronnie Dunn saying still like seventy,

1177
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: I know, and you're.

1178
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: Like, you know he took care of his voice.

1179
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter.

1180
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: And god, dang, I know what do you do?

1181
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: If that's fun?

1182
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Then what do I do that's fun?

1183
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? What's fun? Just's what comes to your mind when

1184
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: I say what's fun? Golf?

1185
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: Golf is really fun. But I but I even make golf.

1186
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 2: I was about to say, are you like me where

1187
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: you say it's.

1188
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: Interesting that you ask me what's fun because it's hard

1189
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: for me to think of anything that's fun.

1190
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1191
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: Same, do we suck? I don't even like. I don't.

1192
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, where do you like to go on vacation

1193
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: or what do you like to do for fun? And

1194
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't know? Right, And I love golf until but

1195
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: then I if it doesn't go exactly right or it

1196
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: doesn't going away, then I hate it. I'm miserable.

1197
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: It makes me miserable. I haven't played. I didn't play

1198
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: golf for like three years, mainly because I have so

1199
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: many kids and it's impossible to like get out and

1200
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: go do it. But this year a buddy of mine

1201
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: invited me to play in this tournament in September, and

1202
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: I was like, well, what's the tournament? Told me about

1203
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: this stuff, and he was like, yeah, but you have

1204
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: to be a single digit handicap to play in it.

1205
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, Like I'm like a fourteen

1206
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: or fifteen maybe. I mean, if I really work out it,

1207
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: I can probably get down to a nine. And now

1208
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: here it is in August and I've done nothing but grind, grind, grind,

1209
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: And I've played probably twenty rounds of golf and I've

1210
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: entered them all in my freaking gin handicap system. And

1211
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: I shot an eighty eight at wing Foot, which is

1212
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: one of the hardest courses in New York, and it

1213
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: only took my handicap down by point one. And I'm

1214
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: sitting there going this sucks. Like golf is supposed to

1215
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: be a blast with your friends, and if I shank

1216
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: one in the woods, I'm the worst person to be

1217
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: around because I'm sitting there going that lesson I took

1218
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: last week. It worked last week, but I ain't working

1219
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: this week. Do you get in your head pre pre

1220
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: so much so that it affects posts correct and so

1221
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: like this tournament is like literally happening in three weeks,

1222
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm playing with a bunch of people

1223
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: that are sick golfers, like pros and athletes and people

1224
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: that are plus twos and plus threes, and I'm just

1225
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: sitting here nervous out of my mind because I'm like,

1226
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: if I get paired with somebody that's a two and

1227
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: they're looking at me as a nine, that goes, hey, man,

1228
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: I know that you're not going to help us out

1229
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: a lot, but I need you to burdy like three

1230
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: or four holes. That's all I'm gonna think about of, Like,

1231
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: am I going to help my team? And if I don't,

1232
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: you've pre spiraled. Again, you pre spiral.

1233
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: You've just did what I just there's no reason for

1234
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: you to do that yet. And there is a reason

1235
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: to spiral at times, for sure, because that's a defense mechanism.

1236
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: But again, you're spiraling. And I say this out of

1237
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: love and understanding. You're spiraling when you don't need to

1238
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: freak inspiral because you're not even time to spiral yet.

1239
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: Correct.

1240
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: It might be time to spiral eventually. Correct, But that's

1241
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: but you pre spiraling is actually going to lead you

1242
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: to spiraling.

1243
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. But I have to have these

1244
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: conversations too.

1245
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: That'say, okay, this is not good for me to go

1246
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: crazy right now because it's actually going to make me

1247
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: less effective correct later. It's like I have to have

1248
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: a dialogue with myself, which is actually a monologue, but

1249
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm so crazy. It felt like two people talking to

1250
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: each other.

1251
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: My brother in law is my photographer on the road,

1252
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: and last weekend he looked at me because it was

1253
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: like a fifth Saturday in a row that I was like, dude,

1254
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can do it, man, you know,

1255
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: and he was like, tr I feel like you create

1256
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: a black hole and then you just step into it.

1257
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: And like that rocked me. Like coming from like my

1258
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: brother in law, who's like one of my best buzz

1259
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: in the world, is like, dude, if there is something

1260
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: that hasn't even gone wrong, you will create something that

1261
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: will go wrong and you will latch onto that for

1262
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: the rest of the day. It is my biggest faults

1263
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: as a human and probably, you know, more than likely

1264
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: the biggest reason that me and Lauren ever get into

1265
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: arguments is like Christmas or Thanksgiving or a trip to

1266
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: Disney World. I'm sitting there going Disney World, so like,

1267
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, are we gonna the kids gonna take naps

1268
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,240
Speaker 1: during the day, or like are we just going to

1269
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: to crush through or like we're trying to do four

1270
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: parks we do in three And she's like, well, you

1271
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: just can we just go and do Disney and have

1272
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: fun as a family. I'm like, yeah, but I kind

1273
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: of needn't know, like when I'm going to need to

1274
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: stress out, here's dur in the day, here's the beauty.

1275
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: Though, that same we're going to come back to this,

1276
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: that same thing that drives us crazy is also what

1277
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: drives us into really positive places. Sure, what allows us

1278
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: to have success, but to also use that success to

1279
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: things that we talked about at the beginning of this interview,

1280
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: that allows us to make small changes in our little

1281
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: pockets of the world that we feel so as much

1282
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: as we're trying to improve that part of us, we

1283
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: have to also be thankful. I'll just say me you can.

1284
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: But I think it that those same traits allow us

1285
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: to succeed in the places as well. We just don't

1286
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: focus on them because we don't focus on the good

1287
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: things for sure, which is exactly what we're talking about here.

1288
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, it is. I don't think I realized that

1289
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: we were this much alike. I've known you for a

1290
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: long time.

1291
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: I just think it's a yes, and we're it's just

1292
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: anybody creating. Yeah, it's so vulnerable all the time. You

1293
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 2: don't want to act vulnerable, especially if you have some success,

1294
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: because you're like.

1295
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: Why would I be.

1296
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm killing it, that's a rock and roll let's go.

1297
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: But really you're just as insecure as you ever were. Yeah,

1298
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: maybe even more.

1299
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: So, maybe more so.

1300
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: I used to think people be like, when when were

1301
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: you your happy, happiest, and now the same with you.

1302
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: In my career, I'm in the audio part radio podcasting,

1303
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: like I'm killing it, just killing it.

1304
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: It's the best.

1305
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm making so much money. I get to do whatever

1306
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: I want. And they're like, is this the happiest And

1307
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I'm happiest because I have a

1308
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: great wife. But I think I was like healthier, happier

1309
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: when I was the beginning of the struggle.

1310
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: Same. The happiest time of my career was when I

1311
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: had nothing to lose. That's I would album one. Yeah,

1312
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: you kind of just get to do whatever you feel

1313
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: like you want to do. There's you got any fans anyway,

1314
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: So you ain't got any fans to lose. Is nobody

1315
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: disappoint Nobody disappoint. You just get to come on fresh.

1316
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: And that's so unhealthy of us, Yeah, because we're at

1317
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: such great places in our.

1318
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: Life for sure, yet for sure, and so many were

1319
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: fans of our.

1320
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: Work, and I just am like, you know, I was

1321
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: the happiest when I was playing Kinkerpey Junior. Could barely

1322
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: afford a PS two and would you struggle to get

1323
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: to work with gas money? But I was like there

1324
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: was everything was in front of.

1325
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: Me, joyful in the ground. Yeah, you know, and I

1326
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: should be.

1327
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: And I'm getting better at it at this version, getting

1328
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: better only because I'm aware.

1329
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: For sure.

1330
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: Awareness is the first step to all of that.

1331
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1332
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: Oh man, I feel like I just I should. I

1333
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: should pay you some money here for like, I feel

1334
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: like I should therapy session here. What kind of clubs

1335
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: do you play?

1336
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: You titlists?

1337
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: You don't have to do you play, you have a

1338
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: deal with them.

1339
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: I've met a few of their reps, and they've always

1340
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: taken care of me. Pretty awesome. Yeah, but I think

1341
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm hitting way too aggressive, Like I've hit blades. I'm

1342
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: hitting blades like the T one hundreds. You could probably

1343
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: spare to hit the T three hundreds this point.

1344
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: So because you think you're not precise enough in your aggression.

1345
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Like, I mean, I've I have gotten a

1346
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: lot better. I have gotten down to a single. Well,

1347
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: I've gotten down to a ten, which is not a single,

1348
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: but that's more than I thought I was gonna be

1349
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: able to get down to. I'm so unpredictable off the

1350
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: tee with my driver. Is that your weakest area? Probably

1351
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: my weakest area. Yeah, I'm a short game and putting it.

1352
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: Putting is not bad, and I can get onto a green,

1353
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: but if I, like am constantly hitting from the woods

1354
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: or having to drop off my T shot, you just

1355
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: can't score over I can't score.

1356
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm a twelve. Yeah, and I really haven't got to

1357
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: play a lot consistently. That's a couple of weeks of flake.

1358
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go play this tournament. Yeah, And I just

1359
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: feel like I just got to get the reps in

1360
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 2: to at least feel confident there, because you know, confidence

1361
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: is such a big part of it.

1362
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you walk out there and you're you know,

1363
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: you're you're no longer in the cave, like hitting the

1364
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: track most anyway in front of like a thousand people.

1365
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: Nerves getting golf. I get in golf. I played Pebble

1366
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: Beach last year and Jim Nance's call. I hear him

1367
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: calling me calling my shot as I'm up there and

1368
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm hitting and their people everywhere, and I'm freaking I'm

1369
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: so freaking tight.

1370
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: Do you shank it or you drill? I drilled it? Yeah? Yeah,

1371
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: Oh yes, it's like eight feet that wasn't under pressure? Yeah? No,

1372
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: not always. My point is I get so nervous, yeah

1373
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: doing that?

1374
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, although what do you mean do live TV five

1375
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: million people watching. I don't only get nervous.

1376
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,959
Speaker 1: I'm prepared. Same, I'm prepared. I've been training forever.

1377
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: Radio five million people in the morning, like, no problem.

1378
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: Maybe do comedy two thousand and three people live. I'm

1379
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: putting jokes out there. Maybe they'll laugh.

1380
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: All good.

1381
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been through it. I've been through it good

1382
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: and bad. I know the worst than the best. It

1383
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: can be. You put me on a freaking tea if

1384
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm just playing through and there's four people watching me.

1385
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: Bro it's I think it's because we feel like, in

1386
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: a way we have mastered our craft, and we're confident

1387
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: to do it in front of anybody in the world.

1388
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: We have not mastered the craft of golf. We have

1389
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: so you step up there like and you kind of

1390
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: just go. You know this, this app tells you that I

1391
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: have shot a couple of eighty two's in my life.

1392
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: But what you were about to witness could be a

1393
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: head injury from someone that I'm about to snipe right

1394
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: off the left side.

1395
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: Of the face with the ball, like him in the head.

1396
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: We're not prepared for that.

1397
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hit him in the head. I thought I

1398
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: hit it on the green, but it hit their head

1399
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: and bounce to the green. It's terrible.

1400
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: You hit them on the head.

1401
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they hit it. I was at pebble

1402
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 2: and she's standing by the green and it went up

1403
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: and I thought I hit a rock and rolling on

1404
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: the green. Hit her on the face. Yeah, hit her

1405
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: on the face.

1406
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, it sucks.

1407
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: It was awesome at first because I was jumping around

1408
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: giving very high five and somebody came up and went, hey, so.

1409
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: You land it on the green because they hit her

1410
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: face first.

1411
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: Hit her face and brickers hitt of the green. I

1412
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: mean it's on.

1413
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. No it isn't. I mean in terrible, terrible, terrible,

1414
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: amazing and terrible.

1415
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: What's up with the vinyl?

1416
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: So you have so many for the number ones?

1417
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: Now you just were doing a big so young and

1418
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: that when I read you have twenty number one, you

1419
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: have twenty number one?

1420
01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. It's bizarre. It is weird, man, it's bizarre.

1421
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: So you have I mean, it's like you should be

1422
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: fifty five. I know, dude. And like it was kind

1423
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: of a big conversation because I think there was a

1424
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: lot like the label really wanted to call this Greatest Hits.

1425
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: I just felt like being a thirty three year old

1426
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: coming out with the greatest Hits just looked wrong, you

1427
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So this is more of a

1428
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: celebration of twenty number one's vinyl, because I do love vinyl,

1429
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: and I think that vinyl is really cool for a

1430
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,479
Speaker 1: lot of people these days. It's kind of coming back

1431
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: in style and kind of a collector's item. And I

1432
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: feel like my fans have always really loved like kind

1433
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: of limited run merchandise or hats, and like this is

1434
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: like super limited run and just seemed like a cool

1435
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: way to kind of say thanks to everybody you know.

1436
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, twenty number one celebration is more of the thing.

1437
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Eddie and I talked about this. But

1438
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: when I was considering moving here, living in Austin, and

1439
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: we were together somewhere and I had my I've had

1440
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: my phases and seasons of country music growing up age

1441
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: zero through thirteen.

1442
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: That's all.

1443
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: It was my Grandma on classic country on the radio

1444
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: thirteen out. Then I got really ind alternate and hip

1445
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: hop music. But there was a whole, like early two

1446
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: thousands version of country that I just wasn't here in,

1447
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: just wasn't involved in it. I'm working on pop radios,

1448
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: listening to hip hop and rock, and they we were

1449
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: talking about me coming here, and I was only going

1450
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: to move if it was gonna be like the first

1451
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: real national It was just a lot of contract stuff.

1452
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: I said, let me listen to country music. Put it

1453
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: on flip it on. First song was beer with Jesus

1454
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: that Eddie and I were together. I was like, I'm

1455
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: thinking about going over there. Let's and it's you. I

1456
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: can have it. That just feels like one hundred years

1457
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 2: ago and yesterday at the same time. I know, was

1458
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: that your top twenty, your first few songs singles?

1459
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: My second single?

1460
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it feels like yesterday, but it also

1461
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 2: again it's like ten million years ago because it's just

1462
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: been through.

1463
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: A lot all of us have. Man, yeah, it's it's insane,

1464
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: man Like I can I me mean, the band laugh

1465
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: about it a lot. But I remember being just a

1466
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: new artist being like, man, what would it be like

1467
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: to have one hit like in our set so that

1468
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: we didn't have to rely on singing freaking friends and

1469
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: low places twice? You know, I'm saying, like, how awesome

1470
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: would be to have one hit in your show? And

1471
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: then you get one and you're like, oh, this is amazing.

1472
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: But what if we had three? You know what I'm saying.

1473
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: We could start with a hit, in with a hit

1474
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: and put one in the middle. That'd be so fire.

1475
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: Then you get three and you're like, cod but five

1476
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: and you know where I'm going with this. But it's like,

1477
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: now you're at twenty almost twenty number ones, twenty one

1478
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: number ones, and you go, Okay, we have enough now

1479
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: to fill up a ninety minute set of nothing but

1480
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: number one songs. And as amazing as that sounds. It

1481
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: really forces you to look at your set and now, go, Okay,

1482
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: of the twenty number ones, which ones were the game

1483
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: changers and which ones were the ones that we just

1484
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: kind of snuck in by a point? Does it make

1485
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 1: sense because you play die Happy Man and you play

1486
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: slow on Summer. Slood on Summer was a hit, but

1487
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: Die Happy Man was a game changer. You play Marry

1488
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: Me up next to Remember You Young? Remember You Young

1489
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: was a hit and it was a great song, but

1490
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: Marry Me was a game changer. And so you kind

1491
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: of start to go through your career and you go, man, like,

1492
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: hits are great things to keep your momentum kind of stacked,

1493
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: but like every now and then, man, you've got to

1494
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: have a big boy, you know what I'm saying. And

1495
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: so that's kind of where I find myself as a

1496
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: thirty three year old man doing this now for eleven years,

1497
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 1: six albums deep. It can no longer be about here's

1498
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: a collection of songs that I think are kind of fun,

1499
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: and there's for sure two radio singles on there, and

1500
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: this one's kind of weird enough to maybe stream one

1501
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: hundred million times. It can't be that anymore. It's got

1502
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: to be like, Yo, here's eleven songs that I think

1503
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: are so different from me. I've never dodged in this territory.

1504
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: And even if they all suck, at least we took it.

1505
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: We swung for the fence. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1506
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: what good is it doing me to just like sit

1507
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: down and write some just like generic country songs.

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01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: Well, the only good would be the dope, I mean,

1509
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: hit you get up, going out. Here's the number one

1510
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: party for right for tom. But what does it do

1511
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: greater good for you? Nothing?

1512
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a but it's a hard.

1514
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: It's hard because I will I will write some of

1515
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: those tunes and they will probably be on the on

1516
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,479
Speaker 1: a on a record, and you go, okay, like, here's

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01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: the couple that I think are like the big the

1518
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: big ones. But if they both fail, I've got a

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01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: couple that I think will work. That makes sense.

1520
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: It does, and you know, it's chasing the capital G

1521
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: good and what makes you feel good for sure, And

1522
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: it's I've just I've tried to make a lot more

1523
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: capital G good decisions, right, I don't always yeah, because

1524
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: sometimes I still need to be told I'm worth you know,

1525
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: sometimes pasionally like you're still be still the man, They're

1526
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: still You're still killing it, no doubt. I had three

1527
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: final questions, what's the boot that the COVI thing you're doing?

1528
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: Do you have to eat to Coves?

1529
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't.

1530
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't wear boots.

1531
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: I wear boots, but not count I'm from Arkansas. I

1532
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: grew up with a bunch of cowboy boot people. That's

1533
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: why I don't wear cowboy hat wear boots because I

1534
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: just feel like me people are going to know because

1535
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: I've had some pretty lucrative boot offers, I just it's

1536
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: not me, so get it. So I appreciate that because

1537
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: you're probably gon se me like one hundred pair of

1538
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: diamond studded I'm going to pass on that.

1539
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to send you a pair. I don't have

1540
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: to wear them, you just to put them on.

1541
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: The shafts on those so yeah.

1542
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: So, but but you wear boots, Yeah, I wear boots

1543
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: every night on stage, and I've worn to Covis for

1544
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't know the last five years, and they've always

1545
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: been really cool about just kind of sending me boots

1546
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: whenever I needed a new pair, and I literally when

1547
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: I was still on social media. I just hit up

1548
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: the their Instagram account and I was like, hey, I'm

1549
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, be really cool if we did a collab together,

1550
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: And then the owner reached back out to me. I

1551
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: was like, man, we've never done a collab with anyone,

1552
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: so we should do this. And so we started this

1553
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: thing a year ago and we designed six boots, three

1554
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: men's and three women's, all named after people in my family.

1555
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: And they just came out last week and it's been

1556
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: a blast.

1557
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool. Yeah, and you like them?

1558
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: I love them. I was just in Austin and they've

1559
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: got like that's where their flagship story is and walked

1560
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: in and they had my whole display set up right

1561
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: in front of the thing, and it was really cool.

1562
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: All right, two questions left, Angels. You're a single, now

1563
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. But is it about the

1564
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: sacrifices that Lauren, that your wife has for sure given

1565
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: for you? Yeah? I don't know what is she that's not.

1566
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: That's a love song, but it's not a year so

1567
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: beautiful love song.

1568
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably the most like unique love song I

1569
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: released about her, just because most of my other ones

1570
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: are very You're the most incredible thing, like our love

1571
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: stories butterflies and rainbows all the time, and Angels is

1572
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: definitely one of those ones where it's like, man, you've

1573
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: given up a lot, you know, to allow me to

1574
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: like do what I do for a living, and you've

1575
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: given up a lot of your passion for a long

1576
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: time to follow me on the road and do this

1577
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: thing and support me and more of just like an

1578
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: apology and thank you in a way. And so the

1579
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: song might like I've been playing it live, you know

1580
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: a lot this year and just watching grown men like

1581
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: sobbing in these buildings, like hugging the person that I

1582
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: with has been pretty powerful.

1583
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: So something that I saw that I've been meaning to

1584
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: tell you about was that I saw the video of Lauren.

1585
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: Maybe it was not knowing the names of your albums,

1586
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 2: oh yeah, And I just was like I show it

1587
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: to my wife and I was like, this is us

1588
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: because she doesn't listen to the show, right, she doesn't

1589
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: hate she just for sure she lives the show.

1590
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: She lives.

1591
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 2: She hears me saying all this crap at home, saying

1592
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: she knows. When I'm also on the air for emphasis,

1593
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, turn it stories up a little bit here

1594
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: and there, even like book she doesn't know any and

1595
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is us and she goes, well, you

1596
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: know what, Lauren probably lives with all of this of

1597
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: Thomas Rhad stuff all the time. That she doesn't have

1598
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: to go and check out an album because she lives

1599
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 2: it every single day of.

1600
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: Her Sure, she's already heard the demo seventy thous all

1601
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: of it.

1602
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's heard me work out a jokey two

1603
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: times where I just try to bring it up in conversation.

1604
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: She's like, I know your testim material on me. Yeah,

1605
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 2: I know your testimonial. No, maybe I just really She goes,

1606
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 2: that's a you're working a joke on me right now.

1607
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 2: And so that actually my final question isn't a question,

1608
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: but except like I felt that come on because I

1609
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: watched it and I showed my wife and she was

1610
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: like yeah, and and what she said about Lauren, which

1611
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 2: I felt that yea to her.

1612
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: And when that video became like such a thing. I mean,

1613
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: every interview I did for the next two weeks was

1614
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: about that video. And uh, and Lauren looked at me

1615
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: and she's like, do you feel like that makes me

1616
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: look like I don't care, and I was like, no,

1617
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: like because I know that you care. You know what

1618
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just think there's a lot going on

1619
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: in our lives, you know what I'm saying, Like we

1620
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: have four children under the age of eight, Like we

1621
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 1: got to plan, we got to plan a night a

1622
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: week in advance for us to just talk about what

1623
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: happened this week, you know what I'm saying, Like there's

1624
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: so many things that maybe like she talked to her

1625
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: mom about or I talked to a buddy about that

1626
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: gets brought up and it's like, we never told me

1627
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: about that, and you're kind of like you and well,

1628
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: we eman had a moment. You know what I'm saying.

1629
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 1: We are in the freaking weeds. It's like we go

1630
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: they all four of my kids came on the road

1631
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: this weekend and including in much of our family, and

1632
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: like a bunch of my family got back from the

1633
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: road and they were just like, I'm so worn out,

1634
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I know, and you didn't even play shows,

1635
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so it's like me

1636
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: and Lauren are kind of at that stage where it's

1637
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: like I kind of go on the road and I

1638
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: do my thing, and she stays here and she does

1639
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: her thing, and we come back and we try to

1640
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: collaborate the best that we can until we can find

1641
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: one night to just hash it all out, talk about

1642
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: what happened with the kids, talk about what happened at work,

1643
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: and then we're then we're set straight again for like

1644
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: the next week. But it's like it's just challenging, bro.

1645
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, so, like I know, we don't see each

1646
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 2: other as much as sometimes we'd like to, but that's

1647
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: the nature of this whole plays. But I love you,

1648
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: love you too, But you know, when it comes to

1649
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 2: like solid dudes like your as well as they come

1650
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: and congratulations on the vinyl and things of life and

1651
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: being good looking and be able to sing and just

1652
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 2: you know, great calves. Get do this all day. But

1653
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wrap it up, all right, Thomas, Right.

1654
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: Everybody, first stretch you, Bud.

1655
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: This has been a Bobby cast production.

1656
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: Mm hm