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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I threw an analogy today. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you understand why that cotton candy tastes so good?

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Speaker 1: We've never seen Jendarium Price as like a lead back.

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Speaker 1: for sure that Jenarium Price is excellent and that he's

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Speaker 1: when he falls if he's in that Remandre range. You know,

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Speaker 2: Okay, next week questions a little buyer sell based on

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can kind of buy it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, this one scares me just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Kollar kool aid?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that there was that.

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Speaker 3: People think he's going to be a big receiving threat

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Speaker 2: Yes so, and not even like or maybe just a

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Speaker 2: who was not in that top twenty Ronde Gastono Gainsten. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm drinking the He's gonna play a lot of snaps

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Speaker 1: good offenses. But I don't know, man, I think that

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Speaker 1: this McDaniel system, he likes having, you know, pieces that

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Speaker 2: In that same article, there was a lad McConkie where

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Speaker 2: they talks about how he's just the number one, and

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Speaker 2: hoping for with with any sort of McConkie bags. All right, Shaheed,

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Speaker 2: breakout player, big time player, I think is what BTP

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Speaker 2: the show. You Buying are selling that he's going to

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Speaker 1: Didn't you Didn't you write the headline here and you're

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Speaker 2: what I say, At first, I don't know a breakout player,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, there's no tea and I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: because it's bet.

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Speaker 1: I think Shaheed is definitely the second best wide receiver

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Speaker 3: And then Cooper Cup I think is just kind of.

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Speaker 1: Over that that age Cliff and you know, sunsetting within

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Speaker 1: run heavy they were last year.

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Speaker 2: All right, are you ready to get hurt again? JJ? Like,

434
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: are you ready for some pain? This is what I

435
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: want to know? Or are you just going to say no,

436
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to get hurt because I mean, who

437
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: wants to get hurt? Yeah, Well, if you draft Jayden

438
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 2: Blue or Marshawn Lloyd, you might be asking for it.

439
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: And both these guys have had reports come out in

440
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: the past week about their number two like in line

441
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: for the number two back in a backfield that really

442
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: does not have a ton of competition, it's got one

443
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: starter ahead of them. So are you ready to get

444
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: hurt again with either Jaden Blue or marsha On Lloyd.

445
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: I think that Marshawn Lloyd is more undervalue than Jaden

446
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: Blue is right now. And the reason I say that

447
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 1: is because now obviously the reason why he hasn't produced

448
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: is is because he's been he's been banged up. He

449
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: was a from a prospecting perspective, I didn't love him,

450
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: but he was a He's definitely athletic, and he was

451
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: definitely I viewed him as.

452
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: Like a really really good one bee in a backfield

453
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: like that.

454
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: That's where like he could go right, maybe a one

455
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: A in like a scenario where that B is just

456
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: not like overly talented, but he was definitely gonna be

457
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: like a split backfield type player in the NFL. But

458
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: now you're sitting with a scenario where Josh Jacobs still

459
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: has an unresolved off the field issue. It hasn't been

460
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 1: totally resolved. We don't know what that's gonna look like.

461
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: And if Marshawn Lloyd is healthy, he's probably gonna be

462
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: the one A in that backfield if Josh Jacobs were

463
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: to be sidelined. And that's an offense. I say the

464
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: stat all the time, but since Matt Lafleur got to

465
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay, his teams have never ranked outside the top

466
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: half of the league in touchdowns per game. And so

467
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: I think that Marshaw Lloyd is a good click right now.

468
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: Jayden Blue's fine. I you know the thing that annoyed

469
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: me with Jayden Blue last year? Yes, I had him

470
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: as a darth Row. I'll take the l But the

471
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: thing that annoyed me with Jayden Blue last year is

472
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: that a lot of people were buying into him simply

473
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: because of situation. But I actually like liked him as

474
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: a prospect. I thought that he was a pretty good prospect,

475
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: good pass catching profile, you know, had a lot of speed.

476
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 3: Obviously, it just didn't click for him.

477
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: And so like, I'll still buy in a little bit

478
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: because I did think that he was a better prospect

479
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: than what he showed last year. And I would argue

480
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: that some of what he showed last year was more

481
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: off the field, given what we heard through the media

482
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: and what we heard through the coaches. So I guess

483
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get hurt again.

484
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. All right, Hopefully this guy doesn't

485
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: hurt us because we have we've had some high marks

486
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 2: for him. Casey Concepcion espn uh daniel A, Yes, pussy.

487
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how you say his last name. But

488
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: the saw the headline on wrote a world and then

489
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: someone uses on X. Also is that he's gonna be

490
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: used in a bevy of ways. So a bevy of

491
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: ways for Casey. That's good for us.

492
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also saw the the chatter of Todd Mounkin

493
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: and and them using him like he used a Flowers,

494
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: which is what we talked about right after uh they

495
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: drafted Casey Conceptsion. So I think Conceptsion is a really

496
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: good prospect the model does that model actually didn't like

497
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: like it had mackay Lemon ahead of him, but it

498
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: wasn't by much because Concepcion had a really versatile profile

499
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: lined up both inside and out. You know, this final

500
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: year he was more of a perimeter receiver and he

501
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: had his best season in college. You know, he did

502
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: stuff on the ground as well, and that's why I

503
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: think he's an intriguing player even in a bad offense,

504
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: because they can move him around. He's a good route runner.

505
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: You know. The biggest question mark with him is his hands,

506
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: and I don't really I don't. I don't like focus

507
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: on that too too heavily with my wide receiver valuation

508
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: because drops, for instance, it is not the stickiest stat

509
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: in the world. But also you know, you're talking about

510
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: like a guy who could have ten drops in the

511
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: season versus six or five or something like that. It's

512
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: just not enough for me to move to you know,

513
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: you got to get open in order to see that

514
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: target in the first place. There's been very good wide

515
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: receivers historically that have not had the best hands in

516
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: the world, but they get open, and I think Casey

517
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: Conceptsion can get open I've draft him a little bit

518
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: more over the last couple of weeks. He's not like

519
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: a priority for me right now because I do think

520
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: the environment isn't that strong, and I actually kind of

521
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: like Jerry Judy as a dart throw late in drafts.

522
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 3: But I do I do think Casey Conceptsion is a

523
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: really good prospect.

524
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: Okay, some more reports about Zavi on Thomas that you

525
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: know he is the most the most surprising rookie there,

526
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: the most, the biggest surprise for the Bears, but also

527
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: that he needs to earn Ben Johnson's trust. Yeah, and

528
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: we saw that kind of last year with Luther Burden.

529
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: You showed me a picture or a screenshot of your

530
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams stack yesterday on DraftKings where you had Xavion

531
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: in the twentieth round.

532
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's it's an additional piece that I

533
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: think is going to at the very least get manufactured

534
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: touches this year. He's a player that can line up,

535
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: you know, the backfield and do some cool jet sweeps

536
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: with and stuff like that, or do some end around stuff.

537
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: So I think that he's gonna get some manufactured looks.

538
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: But here's the thing guys Like this time of year,

539
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: when you're talking about shorts and guys practicing in shorts

540
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, a player like Xavian Thomas is

541
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: going to look a lot better than what he's probably

542
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: gonna look like in July, late July, right where you

543
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: know that that's that's more real football stuff. This is

544
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: this is there sorts and the speedy guys, the twitchy guys,

545
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 1: They're going to look a lot more interesting and you're

546
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: gonna want to write about them as a result of that.

547
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: I think Zavian Thomas was actually a little bit undervalued

548
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: as a player given the way that people viewed him

549
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: post draft, because it was a reach them drafting him

550
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: in a Round three. But everyone kind of wrote it

551
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: off similarly as you wrote off Arian Smith last year.

552
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: And while I do think Xavian Thomas is not you know,

553
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: he's still a high risk type player in like the

554
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: Zap model, he did. You know, he did play for

555
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: a relatively crowded room in college, you know, not guys

556
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: who were studs, but guys who at least were NFL

557
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: players or you know, were you know, like like day

558
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: three to undrafted type players. But then on top of that,

559
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: you know, he did touch the ball in really unique

560
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: ways in that offense, Like he got a lot of

561
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: rushing production, which is something that the ZAP model does

562
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: favor and look at at favorably. So I'm not like

563
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: shocked by this reporting because Ben Johnson's one of the

564
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: few coordinators that would trust to be able to get

565
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: a player like this really interesting looks.

566
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's the to me, this is like his

567
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 3: his like new.

568
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: I know that they have Khaliff Raymond right now, but

569
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: like this is his new Khaliff Raymond where you can

570
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: see a scenario where he just has these like random

571
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: one off spike games because he can get down the

572
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: field and he can do a lot with some speed.

573
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: But he's not gonna be someone that we're gonna probably

574
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: rely on very consistently and fantasy football.

575
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Omar's coming for the wide receiver three spots. Apparently

576
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: he is all but locked down the three spot there

577
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: for the Jets. But I guess the question is what

578
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: is that worth?

579
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're also talking about Kenyon Sadik still

580
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: being involved in the Ernia. Yeah, he's been hurt right now.

581
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: You know, they have Mason Taylor at tight end two

582
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: that that could that could at least see some looks

583
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: and then obviously, you know Garret Wilson's gonna see his

584
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: and ad Night Mitchell is. I mean, we've said this

585
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: how many times on the show, Like I think eighty

586
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Garrett Wilson are there one, two and from

587
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: like a twelve personnel perspective, and they could run a

588
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: dec amount of twelve given Frank Reich, you know, in

589
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: the way that he uses tight ends, but also just

590
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: the personnel, Like, look what they have from from a

591
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: tight end perspective. So I think that Omar Cooper is

592
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: an okay prospect. I wasn't really overly high on him,

593
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: but I wasn't low on him. I think that he

594
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: was a relatively neutral type player. But I don't want

595
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: to get over excited because there are some circumstances surrounding

596
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: him that could cap his ceiling. You know, Smith is

597
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: obviously his quarterback too, But yeah, like he should be

598
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: the wide receivers three. That should be a given. No,

599
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I saw this report too, and

600
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, this would be a bigger This would be

601
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: more of a banger for me if it was like, oh,

602
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: he's clearly ahead of Adanai Mitchell you know where.

603
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: But that's not been the case this, you know, over

604
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: the last two months.

605
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Brissette ready to serve, I mean Jacob Brissett. Basically,

606
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: what they're saying is that he just wants a little

607
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: more guaranteed money to be a starter. He's making peanuts

608
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: right now. I get that. Make it happen to Cardinals.

609
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: Let's get past this.

610
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: I agree, I've cooled down on like the Cardinals hate that.

611
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: I like. I still think Trey McBride will be overdrafted

612
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: in most drafts. I think Jeremiah Love is a good pick.

613
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: And I'm I've become more okay with the with the

614
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver picks because the gap between Marvin Harrison Junior

615
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: and Michael Wilson has completely gotten the It's the proper

616
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: gap now, right in my opinion. Right, and so because

617
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: like when we started our process of evaluating for the

618
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: season of for the twenty twenty six fantasy season and

619
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: stuff like Michael Wilson and a lot of dress was

620
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: going ahead of Marvin Harrison Junior, like back back pre

621
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: draft and such, right, and now it's like a two

622
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: round difference it's like a very significant difference between the two.

623
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: And that's basically how my rankings have it, you know,

624
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: Like I agree with it, So I'm now, you know,

625
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: here on July first, I Nes made a really interesting

626
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: point that he thinks that Airs. I think it was

627
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: I go on all these shows, I can't keep it straight,

628
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure Nes was the one who said

629
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: that he thinks that Arizona could be better than expected

630
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: offensively this year, which I don't think is a terrible take. Like,

631
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty reasonable take given how bad

632
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: that defense is and what you know we saw last

633
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: year and these weapons that they have in that offense

634
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: and obviously a new system, new coach, et cetera. I

635
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: just think that they are not going to be throwing

636
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: and running as many pass plays as they did last year,

637
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: and that could be a problem for a player like

638
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: McBride when you are kind of buying, because it's not

639
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: like McBride was a phenomenal on a per route run basis.

640
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: He ran really hot in touchdowns and he ran an

641
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: obscene amount of routes, and so that's what scares me

642
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: about McBride. But the other guys, you know, there are

643
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: opportunity cost is in that significance. So now I'm just

644
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: kind of like whatever, I might still call out Michael

645
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: Wilson in the avoid section of the guide because there

646
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: might be in a difference in season long versus Yeah,

647
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: what we see in basketball, like there's a very real

648
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: chance that we just see I see a lot of

649
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: people just say, like, Michael Wilson was so good last year,

650
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: he's better than Marvin Harrison Junior, and which he might be,

651
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, we don't know, but I think there's a

652
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: lot enough logical reason to have, you know, the gap

653
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: that we see right now and best ball between those

654
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: two guys, whereas in season long there might be less

655
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: of a gap. And if that's the case, then I'll

656
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: probably be more off of Michael Wilson.

657
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: More good news coming out of the Mahomes camp that

658
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: he is going to be ready for eleven v eleven

659
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: when training camp starts. That's what you want to see

660
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: if you are, you know, invested any sort of Kansas

661
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: City player.

662
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little bit worried about Mahomes though from

663
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: a from like an ADP standpoint, not not not like

664
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: a but like like he got he had good rushing

665
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: production last year, and I just like, I know that

666
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: he averaged over twenty points per game last season, but

667
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: we also saw a lead up of him being a

668
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: pretty mediocre fantasy quarterback like for for multiple seasons, Like

669
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: this is not I just I just think that he's

670
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: got it.

671
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: He's got name recognition that's going to be in his favor.

672
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: And I am admittedly a couple of spots below adp

673
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: with with Mahomes right now.

674
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, the guy. One guy is not on this list.

675
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to put him on here. It's

676
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk. We talked about this in the Best Ball

677
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 2: Chats in the Late Round discord yesterday, just about Okay,

678
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: at what point are you just like, all right, he

679
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: is going a little bit too overboard. I have so

680
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: many Brandon Ayuk teams because like, if he had his

681
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: head on straight, he's going into two hundreds. He could

682
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: be a legit, like top one hundred player if.

683
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: He if he had if everything was fine off the

684
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: field with Brandon Nyuk and he went to Washington, he

685
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: would be probably in like like I'm saying again, if

686
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: everything was fine and off the field, that's the caveat right,

687
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I bet he would be after giving up it, you know,

688
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: having not played for a year, and like you know,

689
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: I know that part of that is the off the

690
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: field stuff, but he hasn't played in so long, so

691
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: there's definitely gonna be some negative market sentiment around that.

692
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: What do you think he'd be around? Probably the rookie

693
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: wideouts and Marvin Harrison Junior. Where he would be drafted, I.

694
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: Would say round seven, Okay, So I would say, are

695
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: like after the Jags guys, after Brian Thomas Junior?

696
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would put I mean I have the Jags

697
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: guys in that that same that that other range. So yes,

698
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: I would say, like probably before like the Courtland Sutton

699
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: type players. Yeah, yeah, I would agree. Yeah, I agree

700
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: with that.

701
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean I just at some point you

702
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: just have to kind of cut bait and quit catching

703
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: the falling knife. And that's kind of That's kind of

704
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: where I'm at right now. All right, So let's get

705
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: into some data, today's data, all right. What we're looking

706
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: at here JJ.

707
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what we're looking at is a chart from

708
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: the Draft Guide, another one, another table where I look

709
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: at wide receiver hit rates by previous season, average death

710
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: of target and that's going back from twenty fourteen and

711
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: then to twenty twenty five, and you can see how

712
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: these guys played against expectation ADP expectations. So if they

713
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: underperformed by four more points by and I'll highlight them

714
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: here by two or more points, if they overperformed in general,

715
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: if they outperformed ADP expectation by two or more points

716
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: per game, and then four more points per game. And

717
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: I had this trend last year where I looked at

718
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: deep ball catches as a proxy to finding some late

719
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: round gems, and instead this year I looked at a

720
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: dot because a dot actually is a is a better gradient, right,

721
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: It's not as as restricted and threshold based as raw

722
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: receptions would be. Right for deep balls. You know a dot,

723
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: you could have a nine point oh one nine point

724
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: oh two, and I like statistics that are more like

725
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: that because you're covering your ground a little bit stronger.

726
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: And so when you look at previous season a dot,

727
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: you can see guys that had really low A dots.

728
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: And this is in the wide receiver forty three to

729
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver sixty range, So I say late round wide receivers.

730
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: Technically they're not like round eighteen wideouts, but they're in

731
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: that like range of like you're definitely thinking bench player

732
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: and they're not. You know, they're wide receiver fives on

733
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: your on your fantasy team. This is a stat for instance,

734
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: that I would be very hesitant with Khalil Shakir, who

735
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: has a very low A dot right. And so you

736
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: can see on average, the players with an A dot

737
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: in the previous season below nine yards, they've they've underperformed

738
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: versus expectation by about point six or by about point

739
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: seven points per game. And then as that A dot increases,

740
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: they do better against expectation. And a lot of the

741
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: reason for that is you're looking at late round wide receivers.

742
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: They're not going to get high target sharars more than likely,

743
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: and so how do you combat a lower target share.

744
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: You get down the field, you make splash plays, and

745
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: then you can find your self and fantasy lineups that way.

746
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: So look for more of those deep threats whenever you're

747
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: whenever you're drafting late, especially in a best ball environment,

748
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: because those are the players that generally outperform their their

749
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: cost at the highest rate.

750
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Yeah, we have lots of these cool charts

751
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: in the draft guide. Don't ask me how I know,

752
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: but uh.

753
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: Become very intimate with all the tables in the the guy.

754
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's get on to it. It's the main event.

755
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: It's the late round, main event. We want to stress

756
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: JJ that this is for fun.

757
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: This is fun, you guys.

758
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, these scary comps are for fun. We're having so

759
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: much fun. People that go to scary movies for fun,

760
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with those people. You don't like scary

761
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: movies at ah, Man, No, I don't. I've got a

762
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: few stories.

763
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: You know what I like. I like. I don't like

764
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: scary movies. I like uh like, I'm okay with sad movies,

765
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm okay like I like feeling right yeah, and

766
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: so like I'm fine with movies that make you at

767
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: the end sit back and be like, wow, that was

768
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: really powerful and sad.

769
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 3: But it's okay. You don't need happy endings all the time.

770
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, I just.

771
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: My emotions. Like the jump scare they will always they

772
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: will always scare me.

773
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

774
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: And in college this is like, you know, a big

775
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: rabbit hole. But in college someone tried to set me

776
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: up with a girl and we went over to this

777
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: big like place where I didn't know any of these people.

778
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: And I sat next to her and they're like, Oh,

779
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna put on a movie. And it was some

780
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: scary horror movie. Yeah, and they turned off the lights

781
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: were watching it and the first jump scare, I scream

782
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: and I kicked the girl who was in front of me,

783
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: and they had to they stopped the movie and turned

784
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: on the lights. One of the top five most embarrassing

785
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: moments of my life.

786
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, I'm not. I don't really understand the idea

787
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: of being scared. I understand the feeling of like wanting

788
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: to like reflect and maybe feel sad. Like I watched

789
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: like I look, I'll say it. I like the show

790
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: This Is Us. I thought This Is Us was phenomenal,

791
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: phenomenally written, but it was also like, you know, onions

792
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: were being cut sometimes when I was watching that show.

793
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: Because it makes you reflect, it makes you think, right.

794
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: It makes you appreciate what you have, and like, that's

795
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that you can really take away

796
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: from media, in my opinion, and then you know, take

797
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: with you throughout life. Whereas being scared, you know, I

798
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: don't want to see I don't want to see a

799
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: dude chasing someone with a dagger. You know, I don't

800
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: need that. I don't need to think about that when

801
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm walking down my street.

802
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: Come on, all right, speaking of guys being chased with

803
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: a dagger, you have these scary comps. Man. I wanted

804
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: Julio Jones in twenty twenty one to be a thing

805
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: for the Titans so bad and it was just an

806
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: epic letdown. You have the scary comp for Julio Jones

807
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 2: of twenty one as this year's DJ Moore. Possibly.

808
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the way that this works is that same

809
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: way that we did last week. I looked at all

810
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: of the similarity scores that were over eighty so eighty

811
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: percent match are better for the higher end picks in

812
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: the in drafts, right, and I saw I basically got

813
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: the worst comp market score comp of the players that

814
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: had pretty strong comps. Right, So, like Julio jones Is

815
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one is actually a decent comp for DJ

816
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: Moore's twenty twenty six. And the reason for that there's

817
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: four factors overall adp SO where they were drafted, positional

818
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: adp SO where they were drafted within their position market score,

819
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: which is the stuff that we've been talking about. That

820
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: takes ADP, it takes previous season metrics, and it spits

821
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: out a score to help determine how we should rank

822
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: these guys and how we should view these guys and

823
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: then NFL year. So as a player gets older, you know,

824
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: it's a little bit looser with the way that it

825
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: looks at NFL. These scores look at these similarity scores

826
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: look at NFL year. So like DJ Moore though is

827
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: year nine, and Julio Jones was year eleven. They both

828
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: changed teams. Julio Jones switched from going from Atlanta to

829
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee that season, and Julio Jones ended up scoring six

830
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: point four PPR points per game. I look all of

831
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: these comps, you guys, I don't think that they're going

832
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: to happen, right, but I do think that it's really

833
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: important when you're looking at these players you don't have

834
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: rose colored glasses on online that you are able to

835
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: see the downside risk with some of these players, because

836
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: there were a lot of people who are like, well, Julio.

837
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 3: Can't fail miserably, and he failed miserably.

838
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: He was a horrible, horrible pick that year. So just

839
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: know that DJ Moore has at least a scary floor.

840
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: I think his ceiling is interesting, but his floor is

841
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: definitely scared.

842
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: All right, Cam Scattabo truthers look away because his comp

843
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: is Jeremy lang For in twenty sixteen.

844
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: I really like Cam Scataboo this year, Like I have

845
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: him ranked ahead of Javonte Williams and Travis Etn right now,

846
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: which is definitely against market in the way that the

847
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: market used things. So he's probably gonna end up being

848
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: a target for me in the draft guide as a

849
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: result of that, because I think that if he were

850
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: fully healthy, he'd be like a uh where he'd go

851
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: where like Jeremiah Love at the very least is going

852
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: uh in drafts.

853
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: So uh.

854
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: But but you have to be you know, honest and

855
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: say he is a day three pick, early day three,

856
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: so I don't really care as much. But he is

857
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: a Day three pick, and there's some ambiguity going around,

858
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: you know, like surrounding him, and his top bad comp

859
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: was Jeremy Langford in twenty sixteen, Jeremy Langford was the

860
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixth overall pick. Camp Scataboo is one

861
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: hundred and fifth overall pick. That's not even part of

862
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: the equation here for finding these comps. It's just interesting

863
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: how these comps get spit out. And there is some

864
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: similarity in terms of the story that you can tell because.

865
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: Langford had some production his rookie season.

866
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't as good per game as Camp Scattaboo's, but

867
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: there was production from Langford which allowed him to be

868
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: a basically a fiftieth overall pick the following year. But

869
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: Langford obviously fell flat in his face. He had six

870
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: PPR points per game as a second year player. I

871
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen with Skataboo. I actually like Skataboo.

872
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: But again, let's look at the bear case here.

873
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: Bear case suits, did there all right? This next one

874
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: that this is the one that this should scare you.

875
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: This is frightening. You have Jendarian Price with a comp

876
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: of Caleb Johnson twenty twenty five. Yeah, look, I don't

877
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: think this is just what people are starting to heal. JJ.

878
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: You're bringing up this.

879
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: I know, but look look here, here, here's the reason

880
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: why Caleb Johnson got spit out. Number one. They were

881
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: both rookies, or you know, Generium Price is a rookie

882
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson was a rookie. Market score Generium Price is

883
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: only at twenty four point three. Caleb Johnson's at twenty

884
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: point four. By the way, all the market score stuff

885
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: you're going to be able to get in the draft guy,

886
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a table at the end of the draft, guy,

887
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: where you can see what everyone's market score is. And

888
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: it's only looking at top one hundred and twenty picks,

889
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: so top ten round picks at running back and wide receiver.

890
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: So a market score of twenty four is not necessarily

891
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: like horrible because you're only looking at that within the

892
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: context of you know, top ten round players. But yes

893
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: it is bad for where he's being drafted. The overall

894
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: ADPs aren't that that dissimilar. That's probably where it does

895
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: vary a little bit. Again, I don't think that this

896
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: is gonna happen because I do think that Caleb Johnson's,

897
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, like like Jalen Warren and Kenny Gainwell were

898
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: really good players and it was easier for a team

899
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: like Pittsburgh to use them like I think they're gonna

900
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: use Jenarium Price in some way also had better draft capital.

901
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: That being said, it's everything I talked about earlier, like,

902
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: don't assume that if no one else is there, quote unquote,

903
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any competition that it can't go south,

904
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: because it can.

905
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: Okay, if you have any Parker Washington shares in your

906
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: dynasty teams, then just look away because this scary comp

907
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 2: is Hunter Renfro in twenty twenty two.

908
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: How perfect is this comp though, Hunter Renfro and year

909
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: everyone go google Hunter Renfro's Pro Football Reference page and

910
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: then look at what Parker Washington has done. They did

911
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: had some production, and then year three they blew up,

912
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: and then year four happens and the Hunter Renfro disappears.

913
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: He had six PPR points per game that year. They're

914
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: overall ADPs sixty nine versus seventy one, their positional ADP

915
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: thirty three versus thirty. Their market scores. You have thirty

916
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: seven for Washington, you have forty three for Renfro. So

917
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: market score liked Renfro, you know, a decent bit, and

918
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: it was it was an l from a market score

919
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 1: standpoint that year. And I'm afraid that we could see

920
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: that with Washington because market score doesn't mind Washington. I

921
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: like Washington. And so it is a little bit scary

922
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: to think that this could just be a Hunter Renfro blip.

923
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: And I don't think I've seen the Renfro comp made

924
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: for Parker Washington. You know, Like it's like people are

925
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: trying to come up with reasons as to like why

926
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: you wouldn't go after Washington because he had really good

927
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: peripherals and he's in a good system, and I think

928
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna get another contract.

929
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: Things are pointing up for Parker Washington. But this Renfro

930
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: comp does give me at.

931
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: Least some pause.

932
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Britain Strain just got three for forty five and

933
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: they say that Parker Washington might be next on the list.

934
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: So that should give the Parker Washington Nasty truths some

935
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 2: hope there next on the list. O Matthew Golden compared

936
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: to sky Moore in twenty twenty three, who did not

937
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: fall for this skuy More trap in twenty twenty three.

938
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't this feel perfect though? As a floor comp I don't. Again,

939
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: this is the lower outcome here, it's not the median outcome.

940
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: But you could see this happening that sky Moore just

941
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: didn't live up to the hype, you know, good, good

942
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: situation for him. People liked his talent generally is kind

943
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: of a little bit split, but liked him enough, you know,

944
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: as with pretty good draft capital. Didn't do anything his

945
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: rookie year, but even still, situation kind of elevated him

946
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: going into year two. He had almost an identical overall

947
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: ADP as Golden does, almost an identical positional ADP. You're

948
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: looking at wide receiver fifty compared to forty and Matthew

949
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: Golden as a market score of one. Again that's that's

950
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: among top ten round players, but it is very low.

951
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: It's one. Sky Moore's was zero, So props the market score.

952
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: You know, they missed out on Hunter Renfro, but definitely

953
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: hit on sky Moore because we can look back and

954
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: we can see how market score viewed certain players, just

955
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: because we can calculate that, and obviously sky Moore scored

956
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: less than four PPR points per game that year. So again,

957
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: I just thought that it was a really interesting the

958
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: fact that it was the top it's actually his top

959
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: comp period, but the fact that that was, you know,

960
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: one of the top comps for Matthew Golden when there

961
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: are so many interesting similarities, I thought I had to

962
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: shout that out on today's show, JJ, you know what's scary.

963
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: Changes are scary. Some people are just really afraid of changes,

964
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 2: like when you change a new team. So Isaiah Likely,

965
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: his comp is John new Smith from twenty twenty one.

966
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: And that's when John new Smith finished his rookie contract

967
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: and he went to New England and he was draft

968
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: it as sort of like a fringe tight end one,

969
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: high end tight end two, and he was terrible four

970
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: and a half PPR points per game. He obviously went

971
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: on to Miami. He ended up being very good in

972
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: fantasy football. But there is that outcome for Isaiah Likely too.

973
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm drafting Likely. I think he's a really interesting player

974
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: this year. You know, you have a situation where he

975
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: will play slot in slot role, and slot alignment is

976
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: something that we should be looking for in our tight ends.

977
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: That that's going to be part of the guide this year.

978
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of similarities with John new

979
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: Smith from twenty twenty one when you look at overall ADP,

980
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: positional ADP and market scorer. So yeah, there's there's some

981
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: there's there's a Baar case for Isaiah Likely.

982
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: You know what also scary, JJ, I love these transitions

983
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: getting old. Getting old is scary. As someone who's down

984
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: in his forties, I'm scared of getting old. You've got

985
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin compared to Robert Woods in twenty twenty two.

986
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Market score does not like Chris Godwin because Chris Godwin

987
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: was not very good last year period. Like you have

988
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: to if you're drafting Chris Gobwin, which I have. He

989
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: at one point he was one of my highest roster

990
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: wide receivers on DraftKings. He's not anymore, but at one

991
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: point I was drafting him a good bit. You have

992
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: to basically be doing that by telling yourself a story

993
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: that last year he was banged up and he was

994
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: recovering from an injury, which I think is very valid. Right,

995
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: And so you can look at market score though, and

996
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: if you want to look at it completely objectively of

997
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: how he performed in what year of the NFL he's in,

998
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: you could sit there and say, hey, this is a

999
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: scary pick, and it is kind of a scary pick.

1000
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: Robert Woods twenty twenty two is when he changes environment.

1001
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: Another Tennessee Titan wide receiver going to die. You know,

1002
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: his career just just just finishing up there, and you

1003
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: know him not being able to do, although he did

1004
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: go to like Pittsburgh and stuff later on his career.

1005
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, Robert Woods is a definitely a scary tale

1006
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: for Chris Godwin. I don't think that this is the

1007
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: outcome we're going to see, but it was, you know,

1008
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: a top scary comp form.

1009
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: We could just have a section that compares guys scary

1010
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: comps to Titans receiver. Yeah, Andre Johnson, Yeah, Andre Johnson,

1011
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: Randy Moss. I mean, it is kind of.

1012
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Crazy how the Titans just throw that is the the

1013
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: the instant DeAndre Hopkins. You say DeAndre Hopkins too, Like, yeah,

1014
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: the instant one of these guys goes to Tennessee. You

1015
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: know it's over. That's Calvin Ridley. I mean.

1016
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: Maybe not, we'll see, all right. Kyen Williams compared to

1017
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: last year's Alvin Camara.

1018
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the NFL year is obviously different here, Kien Williams,

1019
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: year five, Alvin Kamara, you're nine, But the positional ADP,

1020
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: overall ADP and market score are very very similar. So

1021
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: market score is probably not that on point with Alvin

1022
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: Kamara last year. We obviously didn't have the metric last year,

1023
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: but it wasn't totally on point with him, but I

1024
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: think this kind of speaks to what could happen with

1025
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: Williams in terms of just like effectiveness and efficiency not

1026
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: necessarily being there, but him being a volume getter, and

1027
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: that's been very helpful for him in fantasy football. It

1028
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: was it was there. He was better efficiency wise last year,

1029
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: but Blake Horn was too, and so kind of kind

1030
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: of plays into what we talked about earlier with Blake horm.

1031
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: I just thought it was an interesting comp given I

1032
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: will say market score does not hate Kien Williams, which

1033
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: makes me, you know, That's why I've been kind of

1034
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: on the edge of putting him as an avoid or not.

1035
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you know sometimes using your imagination can be scary,

1036
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: but you're going to use your imagination on this one.

1037
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 2: It's for Shod White compared to Eddie Lacy in twenty seventeen,

1038
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: Eddie Lacy move teams year five and that was the

1039
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: last year of his NFL career. Rashad White finishes his

1040
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: rookie contract, moves teams year five, and then it was

1041
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm hoping I got I'm drafting a lot

1042
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: of Rashod White. To me, he is the guy that

1043
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: you want in the Washington backfield. He's going to be

1044
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: someone that's going to be a target in the draft guide.

1045
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: So I've been drafting him a lot.

1046
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: With that being said, the Eddie Lacy comp there's a

1047
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: lot of similarities when you look at the overall demographics

1048
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: of what their profile says, and they're both on new teams,

1049
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe it does go south.

1050
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're scaring some people in the chat I think

1051
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: right now and last but not least, you know, like

1052
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: how scary movies you know, like red Rum. Yeah, I've

1053
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 2: got I got another scary word for you. A rob

1054
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two.

1055
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alan Robinson when he went to the Rams. That

1056
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: is Mike Evans. One of his top comps this year

1057
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: is Alan Robinson as a ram I I have.

1058
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: We were so hopeful with Alan Robinson going to the

1059
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: Rams too.

1060
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: I know people were loving the the Alan Robinson like

1061
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: he was a fourth round pick, firm firmly, you know,

1062
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: towards the end of the draft season. I know his

1063
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: overall ADP doesn't say that here, but like firmly in

1064
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot of leagus he was going like early fourth

1065
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: in a lot of like analyst leagues and stuff. But

1066
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: very similar overall ADP between him and Mike Evans. Very

1067
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, they're later in their career and Alan Robinson

1068
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: scored eight and a half PPR points per game that year,

1069
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: and it was it was bad. It was not a

1070
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: good season. I don't think I genuinely, my heart of hearts,

1071
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: do not think that's that's the outcome for Mike Evans

1072
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: this year. Am I heavily targeting Mike Evans. I haven't.

1073
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: But if you want to talk about like an aged

1074
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: player or at least you know, towards that end of

1075
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: his career, who changed teams this offseason. I like Mike

1076
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: Evans more than I like DJ Moore. DJ Moore scares

1077
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: me more than Mike Evans.

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00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense. Okay, that's it for these scary players.

1079
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: JJ uh So people, can you know, tune back in

1080
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: if they've been covering the like when you tell your kids,

1081
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: like cover your eyes or cover your ears.

1082
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah you can. You can take

1083
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: the ear offs off.

1084
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 2: Now you got it. We're gonna wrap this up, all right.

1085
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: I do want to say before you wrap this up,

1086
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: I didn't put this in a news section, but part

1087
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 2: of why we cheer like or the bad magic fancy football.

1088
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: It's just like these incredible athletes, right. And we had

1089
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: a report come out this week about Chris Johnson CJ

1090
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: two K diagnosed with ALS. I posted on X but man,

1091
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: as someone who's just a lifelong Titans fan who loves

1092
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: Chris Johnson, I met him and got to talk with

1093
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: him at the NFL Draft in twenty nineteen. Man, this

1094
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: guy was just larger than life and faster than anything.

1095
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 2: And to see that compared to where he is now,

1096
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: you know, a year into this diagnosis, it is just Man,

1097
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: it's just heartbreaking.

1098
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: So it's it's a horrible disease. All the best wishes

1099
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: to him and his family. One of the things that

1100
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: I always think about with Chris Johnson, it's kind of

1101
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: just like a random aside and just a I don't

1102
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: know why I popped in my head, but I remember

1103
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: he was I think it was when he was with

1104
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: the Jets and they weren't using him enough, like because

1105
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: he was obviously I mean, he's just he was a

1106
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: phenomenal player. Yeah, And there was a quote where he's

1107
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't even be in the game when he was

1108
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: talking talking to reporters when they were like, why aren't

1109
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: you you know, why why aren't the Jetsu and x

1110
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: y Z. He's like, I don't even be in the game,

1111
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, sort of like an Alan Iverson practice type

1112
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: presser for for Chris Johnson. But like you you know,

1113
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: when stuff like this happens, it's just you read all

1114
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: of these like really great, feel good stories about that

1115
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: person and how he was off the field, because none

1116
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: of us get to really truly interact with these guys

1117
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: for the most part, you know, day to day or

1118
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: anything like that. We just see them through the media

1119
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: and we don't know what's going on behind and closed doors,

1120
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: not only with this fight, with this horrible disease, but

1121
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: also how he is as a human and a person,

1122
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: and watching that interview was just devastating, but also you

1123
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: could see the courage inside him and you could see, uh,

1124
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, his words were just so powerful for anyone

1125
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: else that's going through a similar fight, and anyone else

1126
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: who has family members or friends that are going through

1127
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: a similar fight. It's horrible.

1128
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: You know, we need to find a cure for this.

1129
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: Like it's scary, it's everything right, Like it's just it's

1130
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: just the worst part of being human. Is this kind

1131
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: of thing, and so you know, both of us wish

1132
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: him the best. You know, not that anyone is going

1133
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: to be listening, that's part of that circle. But you know,

1134
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: I just I just I I hope that they can

1135
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: find peace and that that things are you know, slower

1136
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: to develop than they expect, or they find some hances,

1137
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: or he's able to help get the word out to

1138
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: get better enhancements in terms of curing this disease. It's

1139
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: just it's horrible and best wishes to him and his family.

1140
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Petrip said Madden legend, Like even as a

1141
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: Titans fan watching him anytime he touched the ball, if

1142
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: he got some sort of scene, he was just gone.

1143
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: I love to have him in fantasy Oh because you

1144
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: could you know, you'll be sitting there that was you know,

1145
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: you'd be tracking games. Then all of a sudden you

1146
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: see the line of yes, like, oh my god, fifteen

1147
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: Fantasy points just now, you know, like it was amazing,

1148
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: incredible shout.

1149
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: Out to us. He j two K again. Man, what

1150
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: what a testament that that he has with with this

1151
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: fight going on. Okay, as far as what we have

1152
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: going on at late round again, just a lot of

1153
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,640
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1159
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,320
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1160
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,560
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1161
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,919
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1162
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,280
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1163
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,320
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1164
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1169
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate everyone for tuning in. It's officially July.

1170
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the real start of the fantasy

1171
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: football season. So hopefully everybody's ready, man, because it's coming.

1172
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: To scott Fishball happening. Some scott fishball leagues have already happened.

1173
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: I was at the scott fish Ball event in Charlotte.

1174
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: This past week, I celebrated my eleventh wedding anniversary with

1175
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 1: my wife at the Scott Fishbowl event. That was great.

1176
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: Look, we did stuff afterwards kitchen. It was fine. No,

1177
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: all right, I'm just gonna shut my mouth now.

1178
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: Again Late Round there for draft gigs. But no, I

1179
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: always say Scott fish Ball is like the unofficial started

1180
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: fantas football season, but it just seems like that's not

1181
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: even true anymore because of everything else going on with

1182
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: Best Ball and everything else. But it is a huge

1183
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: part of the fantasy season, So looking forward to that,

1184
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: and again appreciate everyone for tuning in and we'll see

1185
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: you next time here on the Late Round Fantasy Football Show.