1
00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,200
Speaker 1: What's that at the bed?

2
00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,160
Speaker 2: It's spooky.

3
00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,480
Speaker 1: Hey, Joky, I'm really sure it's dead.

4
00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:25,480
Speaker 2: It's coming this way. Wait a minute, I was Nandez pose.

5
00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:32,640
Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by

6
00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,599
Speaker 2: Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that

7
00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:42,680
Speaker 2: I like about the paranormal. Oh my god, I got

8
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:49,199
Speaker 2: to talk to my old friend Sasha Koby, who you

9
00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:56,000
Speaker 2: may know as winner of RuPaul's Drag Race. Very exciting.

10
00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,200
Speaker 2: She's all over the place, travel in the world, being

11
00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:06,120
Speaker 2: such an amazing role model for so many including me,

12
00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,880
Speaker 2: and just an incredible performer. I just love her to death.

13
00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,400
Speaker 2: And since she's busy, you know, we've been trying to

14
00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,560
Speaker 2: make this work for a while and we finally were

15
00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,880
Speaker 2: able to make it happen. However, you may have noticed

16
00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,920
Speaker 2: that my audio sounds a little bit different, and that

17
00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,080
Speaker 2: is because I am currently in a hotel room on

18
00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,840
Speaker 2: my old microphone that I used to use during the pandemic,

19
00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,600
Speaker 2: Like when the pandemic first started and it was like,

20
00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,160
Speaker 2: oh God, how do we do this without a studio.

21
00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,800
Speaker 2: I'll just buy the quickest cheapest microphone I can find,

22
00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,040
Speaker 2: So I Duz did that one off and that's what

23
00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm on right now. But nonetheless, we got Sasha Kolby

24
00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,360
Speaker 2: and I am currently in Pittsburgh while recording this opening

25
00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,360
Speaker 2: for Bob the Drag Queen on her This is Wild tour,

26
00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,160
Speaker 2: which is still going. You know, there's lots and lots

27
00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,680
Speaker 2: of dates. You know, this will come out a couple

28
00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,240
Speaker 2: of weeks after I'm recording this, but there's tons of

29
00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,920
Speaker 2: dates all over the world, and you should go see

30
00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,120
Speaker 2: Bob and trust me, I will give her her jury

31
00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,720
Speaker 2: duty summons to come on this podcast at some point

32
00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,440
Speaker 2: as well. You know me, I just know all those

33
00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:22,799
Speaker 2: winners of RuPaul's Drag Race. Anyway, you know, Sasha gave

34
00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,320
Speaker 2: us a full episode and we really got to talk

35
00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:34,040
Speaker 2: about Hawaiian culture and its relationship to the paranormal folklore.

36
00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,120
Speaker 2: You know, all of all of those cultural stories, and

37
00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,800
Speaker 2: I love, I live for all that kind of stuff,

38
00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,120
Speaker 2: and so I think that we should just you know,

39
00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,240
Speaker 2: cut this intro short and just get into some Sasha.

40
00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,640
Speaker 2: As always, I would love for you to see me live,

41
00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:58,000
Speaker 2: and I will be in New York City December eighth.

42
00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:03,920
Speaker 2: I am doing Ghosts Live on stage in Brooklyn. The

43
00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,160
Speaker 2: tickets are cheap as hell. The tickets are like twelve

44
00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,360
Speaker 2: dollars or something, so I know you got I know

45
00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,399
Speaker 2: you got your thing that night, cancel it. I don't

46
00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,040
Speaker 2: come to New York doing shows that often. Oh I

47
00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,720
Speaker 2: know you're in a Broadway show. Get the understudy to

48
00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,840
Speaker 2: go in just this one time. It's only twelve bucks.

49
00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,400
Speaker 2: I've been dying to do Ghosted live in New York,

50
00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,680
Speaker 2: so come buy those tickets. And I've been loving so

51
00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,320
Speaker 2: much all of the amazing feedback about my YouTube series

52
00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,280
Speaker 2: Wherelese Hernette is the Haunted Doll, my comedy series where

53
00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,480
Speaker 2: I go ghost hunting and haunted hotel rooms. So please,

54
00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,720
Speaker 2: if you haven't yet checked it out, find it on YouTube.

55
00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,400
Speaker 2: Ros Hernandez the Haunted Doll. Tell your friends like it, comments, subscribe,

56
00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,640
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. Okay, here we go. Time

57
00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,360
Speaker 2: to talk to winner of Season fifteen of RuPaul's Drag Race,

58
00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:16,120
Speaker 2: Sasha Koby on with the show. Oh my god, I

59
00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:24,159
Speaker 2: cannot believe who I have conjured today, Sasha Colby, Hello.

60
00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,479
Speaker 1: Hi, Ros, It's so good to see you.

61
00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,839
Speaker 2: It's always good to see you. People don't know me

62
00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,440
Speaker 2: and Sasha. We go back. We used to do drag

63
00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,960
Speaker 2: shows together. I think usually like most I would say

64
00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,239
Speaker 2: most of the time, I was like hosting drag brunch

65
00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,680
Speaker 2: or whatever the drag show was.

66
00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,839
Speaker 1: You're definitely the brunchers.

67
00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,279
Speaker 2: Yes, we were a brunch crew in bed by three pm.

68
00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,560
Speaker 1: Do you remember the one that we did all the

69
00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,279
Speaker 1: way out Oxnard and we would just had like it

70
00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,080
Speaker 1: was duringly pandemic too, right like right before pandemic or

71
00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,599
Speaker 1: like right around the pandemic. And I just remember we

72
00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,120
Speaker 1: had like garbage bags full of one.

73
00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,839
Speaker 2: Failed four hundred seats. Everybody had to least one.

74
00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,840
Speaker 1: Dollar fifteen minute numbers and you.

75
00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,280
Speaker 2: Pick that cabbage.

76
00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was a good time.

77
00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,240
Speaker 2: But now you are the most famous woman in the world.

78
00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:33,320
Speaker 2: Now we get direct deposits, you get that routing number out.

79
00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,040
Speaker 2: Where are you? Are you in LA? Right now?

80
00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm home in La. Yeah, finally, like have a little break.

81
00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,479
Speaker 2: That's nice. Yeah, this has been all over the place. Yeah,

82
00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm currently in a hotel room in Pittsburgh, and I'm

83
00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,080
Speaker 2: convinced that this room was haunted, But I think that's

84
00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,320
Speaker 2: just me looking for it's fit to talk.

85
00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:04,400
Speaker 1: About Pittsburgh's haunted. It feels like, Yeah, it's a fun city. Though,

86
00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,120
Speaker 1: I do like the.

87
00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:12,200
Speaker 2: Ghosts of Sharon Needles. So, Sasha Kobe, I have been

88
00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:17,800
Speaker 2: dying for forever to know your thoughts on the paranormal.

89
00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,599
Speaker 1: Oh, let's dive in.

90
00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,919
Speaker 2: Do you believe in like ghosts and that sort of

91
00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,240
Speaker 2: a thing.

92
00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,520
Speaker 1: I do you believe in ghosts? I wish ghosts believed

93
00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,680
Speaker 1: me more, you know, I wish like my ancestors like

94
00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,160
Speaker 1: really like helped me out a little bit more.

95
00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:37,880
Speaker 2: Well believes in you. So that's something. So have you

96
00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,200
Speaker 2: ever encountered a ghost in your opinion or your experience?

97
00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,279
Speaker 1: There is one experience that I definitely know.

98
00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,560
Speaker 2: Okay, give us every detail. Take us to the slumber party.

99
00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,000
Speaker 2: Really set it up for.

100
00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:59,400
Speaker 1: Us, picture it cicily. When I was younger, I always

101
00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,120
Speaker 1: had this like sleeping ghosts, Like was it like when

102
00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,440
Speaker 1: they paralyze you and you can't like sleep paralysis, sleep

103
00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,160
Speaker 1: paralysis ghosts, And it was always like a shadow coming

104
00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,760
Speaker 1: over me. I remember I had that like when I

105
00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,520
Speaker 1: was younger, like a child, as a kid. Yeah, and

106
00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,680
Speaker 1: then it kind of like weaned off. I never really

107
00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,320
Speaker 1: or maybe I was just too distracted or too drunk

108
00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:28,680
Speaker 1: to notice, but I remember that the last time I

109
00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,960
Speaker 1: had one that literally was like a choking ghost like

110
00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,840
Speaker 1: was holding me down and I literally couldn't get up

111
00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720
Speaker 1: out of like out of my bed. I was with

112
00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,280
Speaker 1: my then partner. It was we were living in Orlando.

113
00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if the house was haunted or if

114
00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,280
Speaker 1: my partner was haunted, but as soon as we broke up,

115
00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,320
Speaker 1: I've never had one again.

116
00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,480
Speaker 2: Oh interesting.

117
00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it was like my partner's energy

118
00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,080
Speaker 1: something one of their ghosts didn't like me.

119
00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,280
Speaker 2: See, that's that's a big thing. Your ghosts have to

120
00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,320
Speaker 2: get along with each other.

121
00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:09,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I woke up. My eyes were open. I could

122
00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,080
Speaker 1: literally like kind of turn and see my partner sleeping,

123
00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,320
Speaker 1: but like something was holding my shoulders down, like I

124
00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,240
Speaker 1: couldn't even scream or anything for like a good what

125
00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,200
Speaker 1: felt like two minutes, but I mean that's like eternity

126
00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,520
Speaker 1: in ghost world, right, Yeah, it felt really long. I

127
00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,720
Speaker 1: don't know what happened that made finally I think I

128
00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,680
Speaker 1: was like I had to like shake my legs or

129
00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,000
Speaker 1: something to like get out of it. I don't really

130
00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,360
Speaker 1: know if I was up, or if I was still

131
00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,760
Speaker 1: a dream or if I was in that mid area,

132
00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,120
Speaker 1: that mid space of like dreaming and reality or what

133
00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:51,320
Speaker 1: I call drag, but that one, Yeah, the sleep paralysis ghosts,

134
00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,040
Speaker 1: I definitely saw a shadow. It was like a very

135
00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,839
Speaker 1: ominous looking shadow, non gendered, which I preferred if my

136
00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,400
Speaker 1: ghosts are going to haunt me, like they'd be. So

137
00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,400
Speaker 1: that was really nice.

138
00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,280
Speaker 2: Yes, that was a sleep paralysis, they them demon.

139
00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah it was either.

140
00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:17,920
Speaker 2: A sleep paralysis or no, it wasn't sis sleep paralys them. Yeah,

141
00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,200
Speaker 2: well that is terrifying. I have never had sleep paralysis. Well,

142
00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,199
Speaker 2: so you sleep on your back, huh.

143
00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,920
Speaker 1: I was side sleeper, and that's the weird thing. I

144
00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,040
Speaker 1: don't know why. It was like kind of on my back.

145
00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,600
Speaker 1: I end up like always on my side or on

146
00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,440
Speaker 1: my face when I wake up in the morning. So

147
00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,320
Speaker 1: that was also that demon rolled you over, mama, she

148
00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,840
Speaker 1: said over or they said, I'm not too sure.

149
00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,319
Speaker 2: So you grew up in Hawaii?

150
00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,920
Speaker 1: I did. I grew up in Hawaii.

151
00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:49,800
Speaker 2: Did I say it right?

152
00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? You did? Yeah. Yeah.

153
00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have had people I've done

154
00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280
Speaker 2: the show for five years. I know I've we had

155
00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,880
Speaker 2: listeners from Hawaii. I don't know if I've had guests

156
00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,439
Speaker 2: that are from there, but we've talked a little bit

157
00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,720
Speaker 2: about like some of the cultural beliefs of spirit world.

158
00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,479
Speaker 2: And I know about uh is it the night marchers?

159
00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,720
Speaker 1: The night marchers? I do? I do?

160
00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:21,640
Speaker 2: And what is that?

161
00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:28,439
Speaker 1: So the night marchers? Okay, so there is uh okay,

162
00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,880
Speaker 1: it's also history lesson. So King Kamehameha he united all

163
00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:39,439
Speaker 1: of the eight Islands after Captain Cook, you know, colonized this.

164
00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,280
Speaker 1: He actually King Kamehameha had taken after they kind of

165
00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,960
Speaker 1: pretty much we killed Captain Cook and like chopped him

166
00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,880
Speaker 1: up and like still have his bones buried in a

167
00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:56,640
Speaker 1: beach on the Big Island, and Comehameha actually commandeered his

168
00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,719
Speaker 1: boats and took his like crew like three of his

169
00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:07,199
Speaker 1: like I don't know whatever skippers and made them teach

170
00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,360
Speaker 1: him how to use their cannons. So he actually like

171
00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:16,199
Speaker 1: Commandmeha used white people things to like unite us all

172
00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,439
Speaker 1: or colonize us all and make us all one kingdom

173
00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,720
Speaker 1: for him to rule. So when he got to Oahu,

174
00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,839
Speaker 1: he had already conquered the big Island, Maui and Molakai

175
00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,880
Speaker 1: and these smaller islands, and he worked his way up

176
00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,520
Speaker 1: to Oahu, which is like where I'm from and where

177
00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,280
Speaker 1: Honolulu and Wikiki like you know, the capital and like

178
00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,800
Speaker 1: the big tourist area is. So when he was sailing

179
00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:44,040
Speaker 1: to Waikiki, the people on Oahu could see that coming

180
00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,920
Speaker 1: and they ran up to the mountains. Now it takes

181
00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,600
Speaker 1: like days to go up, you know, towards the mountains

182
00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,160
Speaker 1: and away from his cannons, and commandment had took off

183
00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,280
Speaker 1: all these cannons and started pushing them up the mountain,

184
00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,560
Speaker 1: following these tribes up until they went into the place

185
00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,560
Speaker 1: called the Pulley Lookout, and it's literally a lookout and

186
00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,680
Speaker 1: then it's a drop like a cliff drop, and he

187
00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,280
Speaker 1: literally pushed the cannons and pushed over all these Hawaiians off.

188
00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,120
Speaker 2: Of the mountain. Oh my god.

189
00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,079
Speaker 1: So all of those people actually died like in this

190
00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,720
Speaker 1: valley that we call the Pulley and those are now

191
00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,440
Speaker 1: our night marchers. So when that happened, it was like

192
00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,600
Speaker 1: on I forget what it's like. I guess it was

193
00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,480
Speaker 1: some sort of like lunar thing. But supposedly on the

194
00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,320
Speaker 1: twenty fifth of every month, you can see like a

195
00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,360
Speaker 1: line of like torches going down, like it's completely you

196
00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,280
Speaker 1: can't go up these mountains, like you can see it

197
00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,000
Speaker 1: from like the freeway, but you can see sometimes there's

198
00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,960
Speaker 1: like faint like lights that kind of travel. Those are

199
00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,440
Speaker 1: the night marchers looking for their souls. And there's been

200
00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,520
Speaker 1: a lot of accidents because there's a big highway now

201
00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,559
Speaker 1: going through that mountain. So sometimes there's a lot of

202
00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,920
Speaker 1: accidents on the Age three, which is our highway, and

203
00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,800
Speaker 1: it's because they're crossing the highway and so literally your

204
00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,040
Speaker 1: cars will just get like out of wack up.

205
00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so people are like, oh my god, I thought

206
00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,240
Speaker 2: I was going to hit someone.

207
00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,480
Speaker 1: Don't go over the pulley. Yeah on the twenty fifth,

208
00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,520
Speaker 1: or like my car just went out of whack, and like, yeah,

209
00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,760
Speaker 1: it's crazy. But we've all kind of known about the

210
00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,800
Speaker 1: night marchers. So that's that story, a little history and horror.

211
00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,719
Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, that was that was very impressive.

212
00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know shit about any place

213
00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,320
Speaker 2: I've ever been from. I don't know. You asked me

214
00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,679
Speaker 2: about my hometown, girl, I couldn't tell you shit. That

215
00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,599
Speaker 2: was very impressive.

216
00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,120
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I mean, I'm actually like not another

217
00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,360
Speaker 1: people know that I'm like a history like nerd, and

218
00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,480
Speaker 1: I just know a lot of random facts about things.

219
00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,400
Speaker 1: So it's actually a passion of mine to learn facts

220
00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,400
Speaker 1: that I can say at podcasts.

221
00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,280
Speaker 2: That's great. That's a very useful skill that I do

222
00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,520
Speaker 2: not have. Wow, Okay, has it ever occurred to you

223
00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,199
Speaker 2: like it's the twenty fifth should we go out there

224
00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:08,640
Speaker 2: and see?

225
00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,520
Speaker 1: So? When I was young, I would be at like

226
00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,520
Speaker 1: the dance studio all the time, and a bunch of

227
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:19,240
Speaker 1: my dance friends we were like eighteen seventeen eighteen, and

228
00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,520
Speaker 1: after I think we like tried it like twice a

229
00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,280
Speaker 1: bunch of us. There was like ten of us. We

230
00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,320
Speaker 1: all piled in like someone's van or like someone's car.

231
00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,920
Speaker 1: And there's this book called Chicken Skin that's all like

232
00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,200
Speaker 1: these old Hawaiian like folklore tales and like ghost stories,

233
00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,320
Speaker 1: and we would go and drive around the island, go

234
00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,480
Speaker 1: to the spot that they're talking about, read the story,

235
00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,680
Speaker 1: and then try and look for the ghosts that they're

236
00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,000
Speaker 1: talking about. Ye did like a whole I know, we

237
00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,760
Speaker 1: did like a whole tour, like two nights. It took

238
00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,760
Speaker 1: us because there was two volumes of the book, but

239
00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,760
Speaker 1: we went all over the place. There was one there

240
00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,040
Speaker 1: was definitely like a haunted house on a wahu that

241
00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,040
Speaker 1: everyone knew that that was like some crazy lady used

242
00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,479
Speaker 1: to live there. I'm not too sure about the backstory,

243
00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,000
Speaker 1: but like there's so many things that happened in that house,

244
00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,600
Speaker 1: but it never it was like almost condemned, so no

245
00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,680
Speaker 1: one was even living there. And we tried to like

246
00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,040
Speaker 1: read the story there, and they tried to find the lady,

247
00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,320
Speaker 1: but we didn't find anything. It was a little anti climactic,

248
00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,600
Speaker 1: I think, because we were looking for it, you know,

249
00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,040
Speaker 1: and there was like a bunch of us, like if

250
00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,480
Speaker 1: it was just you know, maybe why.

251
00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm not going to chat. I'm not going to check

252
00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,680
Speaker 2: your sources. If you want to say the crazy lady

253
00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,160
Speaker 2: came out and then disappeared in front of you. That

254
00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,360
Speaker 2: great well, except that, uh, there.

255
00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,680
Speaker 1: Was one we were in like a gulch and there

256
00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,840
Speaker 1: was like some sort of like monster that lived in

257
00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,680
Speaker 1: the goal took a rabid dog with red eyes that

258
00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,360
Speaker 1: would come and attack you. And I remember we were

259
00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,160
Speaker 1: trying to look for this dog, were trying to hear

260
00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,080
Speaker 1: for it. Unfortunately, nothing happened, which I guess not unfortunately

261
00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,360
Speaker 1: one of those things probably attached themselves to me and

262
00:15:59,360 --> 00:15:59,920
Speaker 1: then did the chow.

263
00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:06,680
Speaker 2: I waited for you to sleep years later, years eons.

264
00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,600
Speaker 2: You know what's funny, I just like stumbled upon this

265
00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,960
Speaker 2: news story a couple of months ago, and I'm like,

266
00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull this out when Sasha comes on. So

267
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,600
Speaker 2: I found this video. I won't play the video, but

268
00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,720
Speaker 2: it's a it's just like a clip from the local

269
00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:31,040
Speaker 2: news in Hawaii and they're talking about this mall.

270
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,080
Speaker 1: Call them all that's taunted with the lady you can

271
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:35,600
Speaker 1: hear show.

272
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,160
Speaker 2: No, it's a different one, but I want to know

273
00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,240
Speaker 2: about that. This one is the Windward Mall.

274
00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,040
Speaker 1: That's where I grew What happened there? My god, that's

275
00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,560
Speaker 1: like where our dance serious to be.

276
00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,560
Speaker 2: Stop. Okay. So it's right next to a cemetery, is

277
00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:51,960
Speaker 2: that right?

278
00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,200
Speaker 1: Ah? Yeah?

279
00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:59,280
Speaker 2: So this news report it's from uh k h O

280
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,400
Speaker 2: N two news, you know.

281
00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,480
Speaker 1: Okay, not that it was the news. Oh my god.

282
00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,879
Speaker 2: So this was covered last Halloween, okay. And they interview

283
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:18,000
Speaker 2: this man named Lopaka Kapanui and he hosts the ghost

284
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,000
Speaker 2: tours that are called Mysteries of Hawaii, and he's talking

285
00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,560
Speaker 2: about how this mall, the Windward Mall, is allegedly haunted

286
00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,280
Speaker 2: by children, and that there's like always great, there's always

287
00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,920
Speaker 2: like children all over the place that the security is

288
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,080
Speaker 2: getting called they're messing around whatever, and he tells the

289
00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,600
Speaker 2: story that I'm obsessed with.

290
00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, tell me now, Oh my godness is

291
00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:42,200
Speaker 1: a while.

292
00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,840
Speaker 2: So he says, this woman went on his tour and

293
00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,639
Speaker 2: was telling him like, you're not gonna believe me, but

294
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,119
Speaker 2: this happened. She says she was in the food court

295
00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,520
Speaker 2: one day eating her meal and then this little girl

296
00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,119
Speaker 2: with dirty clothes comes up to her, and the little

297
00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:04,200
Speaker 2: girl go, hey, you know why you've got such problems

298
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,639
Speaker 2: in your life. And then the woman's like why, and

299
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,359
Speaker 2: then the girl goes, because you're fat. So then the

300
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,959
Speaker 2: woman was about to hit the little girl and her

301
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,280
Speaker 2: hand went right through her.

302
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,479
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean I completely believe it. Like

303
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,560
Speaker 1: that's the mall I would go to every weekend with

304
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,400
Speaker 1: my family. I pretty much grew up.

305
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,160
Speaker 2: The little fat shaming girl.

306
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,800
Speaker 1: How about that, though, Let's talk about that, like what

307
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,359
Speaker 1: is like unpacked that ghost?

308
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,280
Speaker 2: And she was about to get slapped by a stranger?

309
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And that sounds about right, like a

310
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 1: complete stranger will slap a child. Where's your mother? I'm

311
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,880
Speaker 1: not surprised. I definitely it looks haunted. I'm just gonna

312
00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 1: start it out, Okay, when we're mall, like it looks

313
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 1: like it's still stuck back in the eighties, like same

314
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,919
Speaker 1: kind of decor. Though, you know, Mall's kind of like

315
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 1: have lost their popularity so practically now when I went back,

316
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: it's like all not even sores, it's just like food.

317
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,159
Speaker 1: So it's just like a big like food court. So,

318
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's a bunch of kid ghosts

319
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,639
Speaker 1: running around there, just fat shaming people.

320
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 2: Calling people fat. But I would be so pissed if

321
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 2: I was sitting there in my Panda Express and this

322
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 2: little kid came up to.

323
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 1: Me, Oh my gosh, like, just let me eating peace. Yeah,

324
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 1: let me eat my orange chicken chomming and peace.

325
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Well, they were talking about how like it's

326
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 2: right next to a cemetery, and like could it be

327
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,959
Speaker 2: that it's built on top of part of the cemetery. Oh,

328
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure they didn't move the bodies.

329
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 1: I'm so sure. I mean, isn't most of like the

330
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 1: land around us like built over some sort of dead people,

331
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,719
Speaker 1: dead something dead something?

332
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. I Mean I'm constantly hearing stories of

333
00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 2: people's ghosts, dogs and cats, and I don't see why

334
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 2: there can't be dinosaur goat like, oh yeah, why not everything?

335
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? What if there's like a like a chicken ghost,

336
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: like an apig ghost, like just like following me.

337
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 2: Yes, there's just a bunch of little invisible chickens everywhere.

338
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 1: That is so wild.

339
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 2: You know what, an invisible chicken ghost says cock a

340
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 2: doodle boo. And Sasha, that is why I am a star.

341
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: Yes, that is why, Sasha.

342
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 2: Tell me one more like fun, okay, fun, Hawaiian sir,

343
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 2: or do you have any of your own?

344
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 1: Oh there is another story, and I swear, Oh my gosh,

345
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: I just remembered this now, Oh, this is gonna be good.

346
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: It's a dance friend of mine. She and I lived

347
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: close to each other, so after dance she would always

348
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: take me home on the way to her house and

349
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 1: we were driving and there is a legend, like an

350
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 1: old Hawaiian legend about one of our goddesses, Pele. Pelly's

351
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: the goddess of the volcanoes and a fire and creation.

352
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: She has a sister named Namaka who's the goddess of

353
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: the water, and another sister who's Poliaju, and she's the

354
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: goddess of the snow, and she lives on top of

355
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: our mountain, Mam Michay. She sleeps on there. But Pele's

356
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: like like she's main character, Like she's the Regina George,

357
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, like she's like volasle, like a volcano, you know,

358
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: like fire is. But there's all these ancient like myths

359
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: about her and like pretty much mostly talking about how,

360
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 1: you know, natural occurrences in nature happen. That's most of

361
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: our like myths, you know, to explain what happens in nature.

362
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 1: But there is an old school like ghost story that

363
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: Peley likes sitt incarnate herself into different types of women

364
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: or like even men. Now I love that, like she's

365
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: fully like gender.

366
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: Fluid exploring herself.

367
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: But there's a there's an old legend that if you're

368
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: driving down a road, it's usually like not lit road,

369
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: and that's what we were doing. We were driving through

370
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: like this like little cliff side of the island before

371
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: we get to my house, and I remember we were

372
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: driving and the story is exactly how we experienced it.

373
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 1: It's a legend of like if you're driving and you

374
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: see an old woman on the side of the road

375
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: hitch hiking, they say not to pick her up, to

376
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: pass her back and there was a legends that some

377
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: people had pulled over to pick up this older woman

378
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 1: and she had all gray hair, and she looked like

379
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: kind of just like.

380
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: Rag, why did you look right at me when you

381
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: said that.

382
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: Supposedly, there was two guys that had picked her up,

383
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: and she got in the backseat of the car and

384
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: she kept on asking and she could smoke a cigarette,

385
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: and she needed to smoke a cigarette, and they were like, oh, no,

386
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: we don't have any cigarettes. But then they started to

387
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: smell ashes and like cigarettes burning, and the driver was

388
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: looking in the rear y mirror and saw the light

389
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: of a cigarette going. But she turned into like this

390
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: beautiful woman and she was an old armor. And then

391
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: he turned around and there was nobody.

392
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so the cigarettes made her younger. Yeah,

393
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: it was really weird, Like it's good for you, is

394
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: that what you're saying.

395
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you didn't you didn't want to give

396
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: it to the old lady, but you'll look at the

397
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: young Like it was almost like praying on the vanity

398
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: of men. And like how they objectified women. I feel

399
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: like too, Like it was wild, like she presented herself

400
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: as an old woman. But then oh, you're not going

401
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: to be kind to me.

402
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: What you're missing.

403
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we knew about the story as kids, and

404
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: we were trying and we were both smoking cigarettes, me

405
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: and my friend Heather, and we swear I was looking

406
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror and she was looking at hers,

407
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: and I was looking at the one that's on the

408
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: outside in the passengers we both could see somebody in

409
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: the back seat smoking a cigarette. I swear to god,

410
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm getting like this, I'm sorry now, Oh my god,

411
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: and literally both turned around and there was no one there.

412
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: And really but you saw like we were both freaking out,

413
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: Like she started driving so slow, like it was like

414
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: so we already were smoking cigarettes, so that kind of

415
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't really like all of a sudden

416
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: smell it, but we were wondering like, oh, maybe she

417
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: jumped in, like because she wanted when and she knew

418
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: we were smoking or something. But we totally am like

419
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: a believer, like crazy, uh, like I saw I saw

420
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: like a lady's reflection in the mirror. Turned around, there

421
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: was no one there, like we both at the same time.

422
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: It was really really weird.

423
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: You got to experience an icon a legend to have

424
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: her and Sasha Kobe in the same car at the

425
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: same time. That is like, that's some royalty.

426
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: That's some goddss.

427
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: There you go, Well, my goddess, I'm curious what your

428
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: thoughts are on psychics.

429
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I totally believe there's this one psychic. She's kind

430
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: of known like in Hawaii. Her name is Lanvo. She's

431
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: like this old Asian lady. A lot of the trans girls,

432
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people in general like

433
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: go and see her to like read her fortunes for

434
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: like the year, the upcoming season. I've never personally went

435
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: to her. I've always wanted to, but all of like

436
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: my drag moms and like like drag sisters and Nancy

437
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: all would go to her, and she was always spotting.

438
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: How does she do it?

439
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 1: She would never say. She would just kind of look

440
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: at you and then she'd be like, you have to

441
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: do this, you have to do that. You're about to

442
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: get this, Like she would just like kind of plainly

443
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: like tell it to you. You know who actually, because

444
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: his wife is from Hawaii and went to the same

445
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: gang studio as mine, is Wayne Brady him and as

446
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: well go and see Lanvo a lot. Yeah, I need

447
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: to see her before she passes. That would be that's

448
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: something I have to do when I go home again.

449
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: How old is she?

450
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was old when I was young,

451
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, like they just never age,

452
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: really weird.

453
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: That's who I want to tell me? What's what?

454
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: I also don't want to know my future, Like let

455
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: me be surprised.

456
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: I don't either. But if I had to choose anyone,

457
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: it would be an old woman, Yes.

458
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: For sure, like I believe like she probably is like

459
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: one of the grandmothers from Mulan, you know, like beads

460
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: of jade for beauty.

461
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I will don't let anything she has to say. Yeah,

462
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: but you have never been to one yourself, Actually I have.

463
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: I did one on ig on Ig live during the pandemic.

464
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: His name is Roy, and I had some family members

465
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: pass and he was able to like connect me with

466
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: my dad who had passed like almost nine years from now, really,

467
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: but this was what like four years ago, and I

468
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: didn't really tell him, like I'm pretty much like a

469
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: skeptic as well as a believer. Like I want you

470
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: to also like prove it to me a little bit. Let's,

471
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, step it up. So I didn't really give

472
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: him a lot of information. And the things that you

473
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: were saying, you couldn't like Wikipedia or Google it of me.

474
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: So it was just very wild, Like he was talking

475
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: about my niece who had passed away like just recently

476
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: when we did that, and yeah, my dad who was

477
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: who had passed I got to connect with him. I've

478
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: always feel like I can connect with my ancestors. I

479
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: feel like my grandmother on my dad's side, who was

480
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: pure Hawaiian, she was the last grandparent that passed away,

481
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: and I was the last. I'm the youngest of seven,

482
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: so I never got to meet any of my grandparents.

483
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: But my grandma Mary passed away a couple months before me,

484
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: and I swear she's like my guardian angel and sometimes

485
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: she jumps in my body and like takes care of

486
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: things for me. I definitely believe that there's just been

487
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: way too many things and synchronicities that has happened not

488
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: to get like deep and morbid, but whatever it all,

489
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is so dishing, But like whatever,

490
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: fam my grandmother, my dad's mom, and my mother did

491
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: not get my mother. She was pretty mean to my grandmother,

492
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: and my grandmother was going to leave my dad the house,

493
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: like the generational home, which is kind of like n

494
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: like first nations, like reservations, but they have like these

495
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: sects of the island in Hawaii called Hawaiian homelands, and

496
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: you have to be a certain amount of Hawaiian, but

497
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: you get the land for free and you can build

498
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: your home, and like it gets passed out from generation

499
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: to generation. So it was first of my grandmother's and

500
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: she naturally wanted to get it to my dad because

501
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: he was the youngest, and then my dad would give

502
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: it to me because I'm the youngest. But I found

503
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: out like some scandals like way after this is probably

504
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: after my dad passed up, was talking to my brothers

505
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: and we're like wait, what, so, like my grandmother really

506
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: didn't like my mom and did not want her to

507
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: have the house, so she actually on her deathbed like

508
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: wrote it to another kid. And technically my mom and

509
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: dad had to move out of that house because my

510
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: grandmother really didn't want my mom living there. But my

511
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: uncle who got the house, he felt sorry for my

512
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: dad and my mom and so he let them live

513
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: there for like ten years, twelve years, and then he

514
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: ended up passing away and on his deathbed, my aunts,

515
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: my dad's sisters, both of them go to his deathbed

516
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, Mom wouldn't want my mother

517
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: to have it, so he signed it over to my

518
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: aunt instead of giving it to my dad and died.

519
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: And then we find out, oh, my gosh said still more,

520
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: you should be charging me like some therapy sessions right now.

521
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: This is like the craziest story. Also, this comes into play.

522
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: I grew up Jehovah's witness so I grew up in

523
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: like a ver like cultie they're also Jehovah's witnesses. So

524
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: when my uncle passed, my dad then found out that

525
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: they had to leave because my auntie Alice, actually got

526
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: the house and so they were like you have to

527
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: get out, and you know Mom didn't want my mother

528
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: in there, so you all got to go. And they

529
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: started they started freaking out, and they already had like

530
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: three three of my brothers and sisters, so there was

531
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: three of them of seven and my mom and dad,

532
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: and they started like rain you or like hoping that

533
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: something would happen, and it just so happened like Jehovah's

534
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: witnesses started knocking on their door and so they started

535
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: like going to the meetings and like going to church,

536
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: and it just so happened at the same time when

537
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: they were transferring like the papers over to my auntie Alice,

538
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: they found out that my auntie Alice is and my

539
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: auntie she's adopted, so she didn't have enough Hawaiian to inherit.

540
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: So it went automatically to my dad and my mom

541
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: and dad went home and said, it's no more Christmas.

542
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: Jehovah did it.

543
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

544
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: They literally thought like they prayed to Jehovah, and Jehovah

545
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: gatto my house, so rounding that whole thing off my

546
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: grandmother who still needs to have the last day because

547
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: that is her property, and like she got it. When

548
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: I was on the call with that psychic, he told me,

549
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: like there is a book or like something like your

550
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: grandmother written pretty much a curse. My grandmother cursed the

551
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: land and buried it in the ground on the property.

552
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: Now when she buried it, it was on like our

553
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: lawn area. But the new house we built over the curse.

554
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Probably how it's a curse and we don't know where

555
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: this book is. Like I literally trying to like dig

556
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: up my house to find this curse. Let's get some shovels,

557
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: I know, like get it. So I believe that it's

558
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of like now under the house that is currently there,

559
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: and I believe it's like to get my mom out

560
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: of the house because.

561
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: It worked, my God.

562
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about generational trauma ghosts. What else do you

563
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: need a little bit of a little bit of like

564
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: cult Let's.

565
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Talk about it honestly. Yes, So do you still have

566
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: like some Jehovah witness in your in your consciousness or.

567
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean I grew up just only knowing that, so yeah,

568
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: I definitely have. Like I think I kept like the

569
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: moral compass, Like there are certain things that I appreciated

570
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: about what they believe in. But for the most part,

571
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't really like man made religion. I believe in spirituality,

572
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: but it's hard for me to like have any religion

573
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: that's saying that my sin being queer is worse than

574
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: the person sitting next to me. Then I know that

575
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: he's fucking his girlfriend's cousin and just got her pregnant.

576
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: But they're gonna they're different, right right, But me being

577
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: gay was an fine. I'm like, I don't believe that,

578
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, I think we're all just gonna go to

579
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: hold and that's here, that's where we are now totally.

580
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. Like most religions, there's stuff about

581
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: like being a good person and like not ye no

582
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: stealing or whatever, and it's like, yeah, that stuff works

583
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: for me or whatever, but yeah, that's just being a

584
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: good person.

585
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's going to get you in

586
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: or out of like the after world or the afterlife.

587
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: And it's wild because they sell it Jehovah's this, they premise.

588
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: Their whole thing is like it's so made for people

589
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: of color, like that specific religion is made to like

590
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: prey on a lot of like there's a lot of

591
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: like Latinos, there's a lot of like Filipinos, a lot

592
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: of Hawaiians that believe that follow you know, Jehovah's witnesses.

593
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: And it's because they make your promise like, hey, your

594
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: life sucks. This life sucks for you, like you have

595
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: it awful if you pray to us and if you

596
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: go to the church enough, you can have the promise

597
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: of this beautiful, everlasting life where we're all equal and

598
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: everyone's good and there's no heaving or help. But your

599
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: ancestors or your loved ones will be raised from the

600
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: dead and you'll all live happily ever after for eternity.

601
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't even want to spend Sunday with you for

602
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: two hours? Why would I want to spend eternity with

603
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: any of the fuckers? Tell me that.

604
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: Please, Yeah, we're just gonna do the thriller dance.

605
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: You're all just gonna for eternity. No, fuck that. I

606
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: don't even want to spend like a fucking hour with

607
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: these people, these fucking hypocrites, let alone, Like you got

608
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: to you gotta sell me on something a little more runny.

609
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what this all leads suit.

610
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: No, I was like, I'm gone goodbye. But I think

611
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: it was at fourteen. I went home one day. I

612
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: was like, I hate it. I hate these hypocrites and

613
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: they're mean to me, and I don't want to go,

614
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: And like I kind of like told them my parents,

615
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: like the truth, and they couldn't argue it. They're like,

616
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: all right, you don't have to go anymore. I also

617
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: think it's probably just they were embarrassed of the queer kid.

618
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: They're like, did you just stay home? That's fine? So

619
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: I watched the tailor room, and those are my gods.

620
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of the afterlife, there's a thing that others believe,

621
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: some believe. I'm starting to believe this that when you die,

622
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: I guess there's a couple of options. Your relatives come

623
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: from the grave and you get to spend the eternity

624
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: with them. You go to heaven, you go to hell,

625
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: or you go inside of a haunted eBay doll. Can

626
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: I show you a haunted eBay doll?

627
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I would love that.

628
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: It's time for the dolls are living, Okay, So this

629
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: is what I do. I go to eBay dot com

630
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: to find various dolls, honey, and there's hundreds of them

631
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: at all times.

632
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: And you are a dolt and a doll collector. I

633
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: love it.

634
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: And I don't collect these, okay, I just give them

635
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: a spotlight. I use my platform to help these dolls

636
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: to get seen, to get talked about. And if anyone

637
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: wants to purchase these dolls, they can. I'm not going

638
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: to now. You know a lot of times they're fabulous, gorgeous.

639
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: That's not necessarily what we got here, but it's fun. Nonetheless, geehaw,

640
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: could you show us Leonyard?

641
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh, Leonard Leonard.

642
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: He's kind of like.

643
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: Leonard looks really sweet.

644
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: He looks like Wilford Brimley. Do you know that guy?

645
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: Totally? He was a postmaster general.

646
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: He looks he.

647
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: Looks like the cream of week.

648
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like a nice older white man with like yeah, like.

649
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: Like he's got some worthers butt a sketch. You want

650
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: some buttter sketch in his Look at his geese.

651
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: I love this whole body. Keep it on that one

652
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: gia I like.

653
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: I like the little uh feet are a little turned in.

654
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: He's shy, shy, and he's got like little jeans that

655
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: are cuffed.

656
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: The jeans are actually rather in fashion right now, Like

657
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: if you took off either of those tops and just

658
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: had one of those, like, you look like anyone in

659
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: silver legs totally.

660
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: And he's got the flannel and the mustache. I mean

661
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: he is kind of a silver leg guy.

662
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: He's giving silver fox silver legs.

663
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: Yes, he's a silver daddy and silver leg is.

664
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Something in his hand is that like a switch?

665
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: It's a wand.

666
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: He's fancy.

667
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what it is, Yeah, okay, it

668
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: could be a switch.

669
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: I was like a fishing pole.

670
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. But okay, he comes

671
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: with a biography. Oh I'm not going to read this

672
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: whole thing, but here's some of it. It says, let

673
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: me tell you about Leonard, a spirit who is protective,

674
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: kind and has a unique ability to ward off evil entities.

675
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: So you could have used Leonard back when you had

676
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: that sleep paralysis. Yeah.

677
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: I feel like my grandmother is Leonard. Okay, yeah that

678
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: maybe you don't.

679
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: Does she need a man?

680
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean there should make a doll for my grandmother

681
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: and put on an ebear.

682
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: It says he can watch over multiple spirits and people

683
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: at once, making him a reliable companion to be by

684
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: your side. His remarkable skill is his ability to work

685
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: with people's shadow selves, helping them accept and understand that

686
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: these shadows are part of their identity. So he kind

687
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: of helps you.

688
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: I'd like a helpful ghost doll. I feel like it's

689
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: not like an Annabelle.

690
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: No, yeah, totally, he's getting me like vibes. Yes, it's like,

691
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: at least, you know, help me a little bit. If

692
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to buy you and have you in my home, like,

693
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: don't just try to kill me.

694
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd rather someone that can help me talk to

695
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: the spirits.

696
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: It says he loves to travel.

697
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's got money.

698
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if he has the money, that's

699
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: the thing you have to buy him and then what

700
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: he's gonna be Like, So where are we going to now? Bitch?

701
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: Are you paying?

702
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: Oh? Babe? I thought too many of those partners.

703
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: He loves to travel. He's always encouraging me to try

704
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: new things. In fact, the reason I picked up a

705
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: couple of new hobbies is because of Leonard. He is

706
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 2: the kind of spirit who will tell you to let

707
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: go of your worries and ed problems and just be you.

708
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: He may not always agree with you, but he will

709
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: always do what's best for you. Oh my god, So

710
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: why are they selling Leonard if he's so great? That's

711
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: always my question with.

712
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: I love him so much. She actually helped me so much. Like,

713
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: so why they're like, no, no, no, he's great, Like

714
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: you just want to spread the joy. I've never heard

715
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: of human being the one to do that.

716
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: So often with these and they'll be like, this brings

717
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: you so much money and wealth. It's like, then why

718
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: are you selling it for five dollars?

719
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: No?

720
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Anyway, it says when he first arrived. He was

721
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: more reserved until he got to know me, so it

722
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: might take a bit longer than usual for him to

723
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: fully settle in with you. In his earthly life, he

724
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 2: was a construction worker and spent his spare time looking

725
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: after dogs. So he that's what I'll do, honey, These

726
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: dating apps, this kennel. He is perfectly fine to be

727
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: homed with pets. He loves to fish out, and that's

728
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: why he's carrying.

729
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: A fishing pole with him.

730
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: There are some extra things about Leonard that make him special.

731
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: Whenever he had a free moment, he enjoyed painting portraits.

732
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: He also had an interest in witchcraft and has learned

733
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: from other spirits around him. This is an unlikely looking witch.

734
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I would not guess that

735
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: this man was into witchcraft, but whatever he says. When

736
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: he was looking for a vessel aka a haunted doll

737
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: to jump inside of or you know it's a regular

738
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: doll to make haunted, he said, he chose the nearest one,

739
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: so that's why he's in that one. It so's the

740
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: best way to communicate with him is through pendulum telepathy.

741
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: Speaking to him in a calming voice.

742
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean I can't do that with people like let

743
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: alone with the doll, Like, thanks for reading me, Leonard.

744
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: He says he died at age sixty nine in a landslide.

745
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Stevie Niggs.

746
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: I was gonna say he should.

747
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: Have retired, but he loved his job in one to

748
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: keep working as long as possible. Finally, if you decide

749
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: to welcome him into your life, you may find yourself

750
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: motivated to try new things or go to new places

751
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: you might expect.

752
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna no, I'm out.

753
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm done exactly. See that's how I am with

754
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: these dating apps with like as soon as I see

755
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: someone hiking, I'm like, no, I'm not doing that with you.

756
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: Or holding a fish. Oh my god, I'm not taking

757
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: the picture. I'm not going on a boat. You white

758
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: boys like to just go on boats and fish. What

759
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: do you do with any psychopathics?

760
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, you're gonna throw me out there.

761
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: And why are you showing me this port dead fish?

762
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: They love to show off these giant fish.

763
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they love to show fish, honey.

764
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: It says you might experience cold spots or cold breezes

765
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: around your face. You'll see orbs or feel something touching you.

766
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: Leonard is okay with animals and children, so you do

767
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: not have to worry about them being around him.

768
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Well, anyway, that's.

769
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: Leonard and anyone listening. If you want to see who

770
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 2: we're talking about, go to Instagram ghosted by ros under

771
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: the Stone retab that says dolls Sasha Kobe, could I

772
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: play some ghost.

773
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Voices like real ghost faces?

774
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: It's time for EVP or ev please, Okay. So here's

775
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: what I do. Okay, was that a real person that

776
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: just walked behind you?

777
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: Or was that a ghost that was a real person

778
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: that wasn't a ghost?

779
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 2: Okay? So here's what I like to do, Sasha. I

780
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: like to go to typically YouTube and find people's EVPs. Okay.

781
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: So people are constantly ghost hunting whatever they believe they've

782
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: captured a ghost saying something. Then they post it and

783
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: then I want you to tell me what you hear,

784
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: and then I'll give you an abcd uh one of

785
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: them being what they believe the ghost to saying. Okay,

786
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: So this first one, this was posted by Hawaiian. Say

787
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: Hawaii Hawaiian Hawaiian.

788
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how come?

789
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 3: How come you sometimes do that Hawaii because there's an

790
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: apostrophe or what we call them oquina in between the

791
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: two eyes, and that means you pronounce each i hawaiianka.

792
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: But there is an okina in Hawaiian because that's like

793
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: technically like whitified. That's our nationality, not really our ethnicity.

794
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for that Hawaiian haunting. And this is

795
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: a place called the Portuguese House. Okay, before I play it,

796
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: there is somebody. There's a living human that talks like

797
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: kind of overlapping it at the end. So just listen

798
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: in for the ghost before it. Uh, what is this

799
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: ghost saying?

800
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: Think of the story?

801
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: Okay, could you hear that?

802
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: I barely heard it. I could hear the human.

803
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 2: I know it's like a whisper. Let me put it again.

804
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: Think of the story. I heard it like a.

805
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me play it again.

806
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: Think of the story like I am done.

807
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: Ooh that's a good one. Wait wait, wait, I think

808
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: of the story. Sure that's possible. That is not what

809
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: Hawaiian hauntings thought. Did they think it was a I

810
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: don't care girl. Do they think it was B I

811
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: didn't tell anybody? Do they think it was C here

812
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: I come or d your iconic.

813
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they thought that. They said C.

814
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: They believe it was B. I didn't tell anybody.

815
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't hear that anybody.

816
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: I think that that is the human talks over the

817
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: anybody got it? I think? Let me play it again.

818
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: I think of the story day man. I wish she

819
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: didn't talk. I know, because I hear I didn't. Now,

820
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: isn't that weird what your mind will think? Well, you're

821
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: just told it's.

822
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: Funny that you said. You ask if it's what my

823
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: mind thinks? Because this next EVP comes from a YouTube

824
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: user named Roz Hernandez The Haunted Doll. Now, this crazy

825
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: bitch believes that she had captured a ghost saying something.

826
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: All right, This is from episode two of my new

827
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: YouTube series Rose Hernandez The Haunted Doll. And I went

828
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 2: to this haunted hotel and stayed in this haunted room.

829
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 2: The hotel is called the Hotel Monta Vista in Flagstaff, Arizona.

830
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: Oh, is that the one that's like westername that is

831
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: still wild? Because I went to flag Staff and I

832
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: was staying at a haunted hotel that they filmed like

833
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: old Western movies, and every room was named after a

834
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: different celebrity, and the Clark. I was in the Clark

835
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: gable room, and I fully thought I saw like a

836
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: haunted family, but they were just a random family on

837
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: the roof. I thought that they were looking in my window.

838
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: Wait a second, that is the hotel I went to.

839
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: That place is very.

840
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: Haunted, super haunted. I did pride there.

841
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, so it was that hotel. By

842
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: the way, I will say full disclosure, and I don't

843
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: know if this was your experience. It was one of

844
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: the loudest places I have ever spent time. And I

845
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: used to work in nightclubs. This place, I could hear

846
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: everything on the street, I hear everything in the building.

847
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: It was loud, so it was kind of hard to

848
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: goost time. But I think that sometimes I could hear

849
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: at least my devices captured voices that seemed to be

850
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: not outside they were in the room because they were

851
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: just too clear.

852
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: I completely believe you heard it's something me here because

853
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: I stayed there, so I get it well.

854
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: The room that I stayed in, room three oh five,

855
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: is haunted allegedly by an old lady who died in

856
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: the rocking chair. And now this rocking chair moves on

857
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: its own. What is this guy saying? Do you hear it?

858
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: I heard something? I know you're something, that's definitely something.

859
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: Thank you. I feel valitated.

860
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: I know you're And then it gets a little the.

861
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: Voice is like a couple of seconds into this.

862
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I hear I know yours.

863
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: Well, that is not what Hrores Fernanda is the haunted

864
00:48:53,600 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 2: all thought? Did she think it was a why you dumb?

865
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: Did she think it was b right? Now? See quiet down?

866
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: Or d Kisasha Kobe come back here for Bride?

867
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: I think you thought they said.

868
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: See I did I believe that this goes? Said quiet down? Now.

869
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if she was talking to me. I'm

870
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: assuming she was talking to the people outside. Now that

871
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: we know it's quiet down, listen up. Okay, oh yeah,

872
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: see I've been doing this for years, just taking people's

873
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: youtubes and putting them on my podcast and putting these

874
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: people on blast. When it's you, it's real vulnerable. Okay.

875
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: I will say, I'm learning a lot today.

876
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 1: My mind, how the tables have turned, how the rocking

877
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: chair has rocked.

878
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna do one rapid fire thing. I'm just

879
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: gonna list up some like paranormal things. And then I

880
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: want to know if you believe in it, if you

881
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: have a story, what do you think Ouiji boards?

882
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: Love them, love the aesthetic, love, use one. No, I

883
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: respect it too much. Oh okay, I got too many

884
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: conjurings going on.

885
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: Do want to conjure things up like that? Out of nowhere?

886
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: You really have to have free time and be open

887
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: to making friends. And I've got enough friends right now.

888
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got both of those on. No, do not disturb.

889
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: I'll start roll filled up with friends. Thanks.

890
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 2: What do you think of Bigfoot?

891
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: I feel like Bigfoot and I was shared the same heels. Actually,

892
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: a delta work calls me sasquatch Kobe, so I must

893
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: believe in it since I am would she call you

894
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: that or sausage Kobe? I don't know, and I'll be like,

895
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: my phone name is sausage Roll.

896
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, sasquatch Kobe.

897
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: That is rude, very dope, so dope.

898
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: But do you think it's real? Do you think that

899
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 2: there is such a thing?

900
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? I believe.

901
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, do they have one in Hawaii?

902
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: They have random like weird little creatures that they talk about,

903
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: not necessarily like a bigfoot or like a Sasquatch. Okay, yeah, yeah,

904
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: more so like they have like these many who ney

905
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: which are like little people like gnomes apparently like they're

906
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: like very gnome like in their tricksters and will like

907
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: kind of like fu fuck with your ship.

908
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of different cultures have that kind of

909
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: a thing. I'm like a lot of Latin American cultures

910
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: have duendees, which is like very similar to that. Okay, UFOs,

911
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: what do you.

912
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Think waiting for one to take.

913
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: Me as well? I'm fighting you for that.

914
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: Just fucking take me back.

915
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm hopefully we both get chosen at the same time, because.

916
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: I feel like we're both that. We'll call right for

917
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: the next rode.

918
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 2: Literally whatever stand by list you need me to sign

919
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: up for. I'm ready.

920
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: I got the points. Let's go like I've been collecting them.

921
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: We'll take delta.

922
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: Things are looking really bad or her, somebody's gonna come

923
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: and get me, honey.

924
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: Well, things are not looking bad in the world of

925
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: Sasha Kobe, tell us what is going on for you?

926
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: Where we can find you, where we can see you.

927
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: You can find me on these streets, honey. Now you

928
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: can find me probably at your nearest airport. That's where

929
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: I can. Most people like, what are you doing here

930
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: as of right now? Actually, I don't know when this

931
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: is gored of air But tomorrow I'm getting my FFS,

932
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: So I'm actually like taking October and November off stop. Yeah. Man,

933
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: finally get my.

934
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: Facial feminization surgery.

935
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

936
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: So I'm one of the last people to get to

937
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: see this version of you.

938
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: Actually I think you are.

939
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: I'll never forget this. I know.

940
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: It's say goodbye to this all of this. Look see mate,

941
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: my UFO forehead.

942
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: You know I've said this before and I'll say it

943
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: again with you here. When I first decided to post

944
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: about transitioning, you were one of the first people to

945
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: reach out to me and tell me congratulations. Meant a

946
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: lot to me.

947
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember. I remember we were we would work

948
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: together and I was like, oh, I totally get that. Yeah,

949
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: it's good for you. And now just seeing how happy

950
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: you are, like immersed in all these ghosts and you're

951
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: still such a light. It's so wonderful cause you're well,

952
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: you need to be. Thank you.

953
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: So you're gonna take some time off, so you're not

954
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: going to be doing.

955
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: Taking some time off November twenty ninth to December twenty third,

956
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: I will be doing a Drag Queen Christmas with Peter

957
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: and Murray, so you can catch me on tour. I

958
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: will be revealing my face in every city. I'm excited. Yeah,

959
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: it'll be fine.

960
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: Where do we get your hair? Where we get your ponytails?

961
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: You can get my Sasha Coby phonytails on solon Extensions

962
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: dot com, or you can go straight to Sashakoby dot

963
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: net and you'll get your little uh, your little link there.

964
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: You can get any of my merch from my best

965
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: Judy dot com or Sashakoby dot net. What else could

966
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: you get from me? I don't know. If you ask

967
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: nicely let me, I don't know. I might give you anything.

968
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. This was such a great episode.

969
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: Ros. I can't believe finally got to do this.

970
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much. This Sasha she is

971
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: just She's incredible and I can't wait to see her

972
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: new face. It's always nice to talk to somebody that

973
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 2: I've known since my drag days. I've gone real drag

974
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: queen lately. I'm touring with Bob the Drag Queen. It

975
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: was just some palm Springs, working with Coco Peru and

976
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: Jackie Beaten, all the old Gales. I love it. That

977
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: is so part of my heritage. And people like Sasha

978
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: and all these queens, they have shaped me into what

979
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: I am today, and they are my heroes. So I'm

980
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: so happy that she was able to join us, and

981
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm happy you're listening in November. Halloween's over all those

982
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: fair weather spooky queens. You know these people, they come

983
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: in during October and then they go all right, no

984
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: more spooky. It's Christmas time, not you people. You people

985
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: are the real freaks that stick around. And I love you.

986
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: I love you all but living and dead. But if

987
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

988
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,959
Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

989
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out

990
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 2: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, So email me

991
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You can

992
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: send a DM or voice message to the show's Instagram

993
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: at Ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there,

994
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: and follow me Roz on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and

995
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 2: on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior

996
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

997
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

998
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the

999
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 2: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising

1000
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by the spine

1001
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac.

1002
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the

1003
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia hard Start, and the

1004
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: frightening Danielle Kramer.