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Speaker 3: My daughter says she's ugly because she looks like her dad.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's about what you look like on the inside, sweetheart.

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Speaker 3: My husband and I have three daughters. They are all

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Speaker 3: absolutely gorgeous. Our oldest nineteen and youngest thirteen look more

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Speaker 3: like me, while our middle daughter, seventeen, looks like her father.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dakota, and we're here to give good advice Googly,

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Speaker 3: But we don't have all the answers. We only know

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Speaker 3: what we do, so please, please, please please let us

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Speaker 3: know what you do in the comments below. My husband

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Speaker 3: definitely has more strong and unique features, but I find

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Speaker 3: him incredibly good looking, which is why I even married him.

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Speaker 3: Our middle daughter, however, has decided that her father is

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Speaker 3: ugly and by looking like him, so is she.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I feel very sad that she's trying to compare herself

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Speaker 3: to BS beauty standards. Unfortunately, she's also been teased at school.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, and while we managed to stop that, it

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Speaker 3: us trying various techniques recommended by therapists, her attitude is unchanged.

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Speaker 3: But it's really escalated the past few years when she

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Speaker 3: started blaming her father for inheriting his genes. I have

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Speaker 3: shut her down every time, but my husband just lets

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Speaker 3: her blame him if I'm not around. That sucks. Recently,

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Speaker 3: my poor husband broke down in tears while we were

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Speaker 3: daughter looks like him and that he can't help that

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Speaker 3: he's ugly. No, he has never had issues with his

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Speaker 3: My husband also said that we shouldn't maybe look into

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Speaker 3: paying for some of the plastic surgery our daughter has demanded.

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Speaker 3: I disagree with that completely, and we fought over it.

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Speaker 3: The next day. I confronted my daughter and I told her,

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Speaker 3: I understand she has serious self esteem issues, but she's

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Speaker 3: being cruel to her father. This triggered a meltdown from her,

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Speaker 3: and she hasn't talked to any of us since. She

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Speaker 3: even eat unless one of us leaves food outside her door.

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Speaker 3: My husband is gutted and is still blaming himself.

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Speaker 2: Was I wrong to say what I did?

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Speaker 3: And we have some relevant comments and the verdict which

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Speaker 3: is from that comments, but we'll get that in a second.

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Speaker 3: What do you say if your daughter or your son

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Speaker 3: was like, you gave me this space, I look hideous

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Speaker 3: because of you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, first of all, I'd be like, you're seventeen.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna look like this forever. You look like

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Speaker 2: you're seventeen, and yet you want plastic surgery, you wait

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Speaker 2: until you're in your mid late twenties, because that's when

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Speaker 2: you really actually settle into your appearance in your face,

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Speaker 2: I think, and if at that point you're still like

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Speaker 2: viciously unhappy with the way you look, well you can

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Speaker 2: do plastic surgery. But I think the root of the

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Speaker 2: problem isn't really how you look, it's how you look

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Speaker 3: Let's read these relevant comments and again the verdict says,

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Speaker 3: not the A hole for what Opie did. Three to

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Speaker 3: the Head says, as someone said it, it's just a

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Speaker 3: genetic lottery, and she got what she thinks is the

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Speaker 3: that my kid doesn't blame me for suffering from a

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Speaker 3: genetic illness that makes my kid unable to do most

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Speaker 3: day to day things that other teenagers do. That being said,

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Speaker 3: you and your husband are definitely not a holes, and

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Speaker 3: your kid obviously needs more help than what she's been

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Speaker 3: getting in terms of therapy. It sounds like it goes

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Speaker 3: deeper than just being a braddy seventeen year old.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to vote no A.

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Speaker 3: Holes here because we don't know the extent of your

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Speaker 3: the help she needs from I'm a therapist that looks deeper. Hope.

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Speaker 3: He responds with we have tried a few different therapists,

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Speaker 3: Milsery T says, not the A hole, but also have

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Speaker 3: you thought of getting her checked for body dysmorphic disorder. Granted,

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Speaker 3: I've had self esteem issues my entire life and also

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Speaker 3: he responds with she's been evaluated for it, but it's

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Speaker 3: it's very unfair that my husband has to bear that

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what would be the next step, but

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Speaker 3: it's clear she does need help. Whatever you do, please

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Speaker 3: don't pay for her plastic surgery. That's only rewarding her

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Speaker 3: crappy behavior. She's almost eighteen. If she wants it that badly,

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Speaker 3: sounds very dangerous. One surgery is shaving her jaw down practical.

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Speaker 3: Wes says, I don't know. I might have to go

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Speaker 3: with everyone sucks here. If she's getting bullied and wants

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Speaker 3: and rumor the daughter was horribly bullied about her face

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Speaker 3: Daughter is being horrible to her father, blaming him. But

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Speaker 3: sometimes what is attractive or accepted as a quirky look

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Speaker 3: is it possible that between her being your daughter as

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Speaker 3: well as resembling your husband, you aren't acknowledging that. I

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Speaker 3: Opie replies, she doesn't have the average feminine features. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I get dismissed. The surgeries she wants do not sound

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Speaker 2: That's what I was saying is it's like, sure, if

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Speaker 3: But there's also the thing of what if the surgery

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Speaker 3: She can just do whatever she wants.

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Speaker 3: We do have an update December eighth, twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: It's headed in the positive direction mostly.

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Speaker 3: My daughter ended up moving to my parents' house last month,

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Speaker 3: as it'll unallive me that she wants to change the

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Speaker 2: I feel like this girl's brain isn't fully developed, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of these things and thoughts and feelings are

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Speaker 2: when you're that age, really oftentimes because you're just in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's what I'm really, really, really scared of. She

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Speaker 3: has the plastic surgery. Great, she hates it. She still

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Speaker 3: hates her face. Right what now, you're like you did

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Speaker 3: like this is going to change my life. It might,

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Speaker 3: it might, who knows it might. But if she gets

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Speaker 2: She takes it, you have to be able to own

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Speaker 2: it first before you just like rely on like some

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Speaker 3: Let's finish this story. And even more difficult is how

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Speaker 3: will be working on it. Final comments here, Commenter number

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Speaker 3: she does not have body dysmorphic disorder. Believe it or not,

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Speaker 3: And all decisions my husband and I have made have

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Speaker 3: been guided by mental health professionals and doctors. Just because

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Speaker 3: I think you're navigating this in a very delicate way,

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Speaker 2: My father's wife faked being sick and ruined his life.

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Speaker 2: About francine always had the quote unquote health. Problems she

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Speaker 2: I i see. Her fast forward to this past year

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. Two francine was quote unquote diagnosed with

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Speaker 2: Live my siblings AND i made sure we supported our distraught,

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Speaker 2: very quickly got sicker and. WEAKER i took a leave

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Speaker 2: WHEN i was no longer covered By francine's, plan here's

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Speaker 2: ever texted her was BECAUSE i needed. SOMETHING i told

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Speaker 2: her that was, true, because AND i, quote let's face,

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Speaker 2: it you are as interested in me AS i am in.

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Speaker 2: knowing full well my relationship with, her or when my

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Speaker 2: even Know i'm coming up on my graduation date for nursing,

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Speaker 2: school or know How i'm doing in? General how dare

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Speaker 2: be an adult and admit we aren't even, friends let alone.

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Speaker 2: to have a relationship with me that, bad you should have.

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Speaker 2: Tried WHEN i was twenty, one in, PRIVATE i told my,

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Speaker 2: is lying about HAVING i. Thought first stated by my

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Speaker 3: Crazy one nice text, BACK opi that's a pretty good

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Speaker 3: you called her. Out but also that's. Insane she, SAYS

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Speaker 2: Me that's just, crazy, dude that's just. Insane it's, like you.

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Speaker 3: Know especially when you just lost one of your most

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Speaker 2: agreed that it's fishy And vanessa wouldn't answer either. Way

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Speaker 2: saying that she has no idea what her mother's issues.

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Speaker 2: for her healing. Process my father And hannah blatantly said

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Speaker 2: them argue towards the end of their RELATIONSHIP i would

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Speaker 2: TOGETHER i always liked my mom's, boyfriends except one guy

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Speaker 2: that hurt her feelings pretty. Bad AND i loved my

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Speaker 2: dad's second. WIFE i never even minded that my parents

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Speaker 2: her not because she's married to my, dad but because

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Speaker 2: her personality makes it hard to even be. Friendly and

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Speaker 2: none of this is about the. Insurance she holds it

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Speaker 2: over our heads and threatened to take, myself my, siblings

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Speaker 3: Out i'd be, like, Hey, dad have you seen the doctor's?

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Speaker 3: Results like did she actually go to a, doctor not

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Speaker 2: Crazy but she doesn't go to a specialist for. THAT

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Speaker 2: i bet she does it in her freaking. Bathroom she

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Speaker 2: just shoving coffee grounds up her butt and being, Like i'm.

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Speaker 3: Absurd, NO i, WOULD i would, say because especially it's

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Speaker 3: SIGNS i would have just called your dad and be, like, what,

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Speaker 3: like how is she? Doing you, know what are her?

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Speaker 3: Signs and like what has the doctor's been. Saying it's

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Speaker 3: like and if and if the dad, says, Oh i've

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Speaker 3: seen the test, results that's one. Thing but if your dad, says, oh,

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Speaker 2: Well of course it's you, KNOW i doubt she's even

431
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: going to a. Doctor that's What i'm, saying you, know

432
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 2: to be, Clear And i'm sorry if this is you,

433
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: know anyone who with a cancer, diagnosis you, know stay

434
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: strong and this you, know this could be triggering to

435
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: hear all these talk about. Cancer but it's like stage

436
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: four is when it's gone far throughout the body where

437
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: it's like you could have you, know lung, cancer but

438
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: now you've got cancer in your like, legs you, know,

439
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 2: wherever like it's it's moved to other. Parts so the

440
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: fact that this woman is being, like, OH i need

441
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 2: to move To Upstate New york for the, Air it's,

442
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 2: like that's not gonna that's not gonna help. You if

443
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: you have stage, four it's not gonna do. Anything it's really,

444
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: realistically it's not gonna do anything if you have stage,

445
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: One like you have to treat this. Stuff and it's

446
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: ridiculous to me that your, dad you, KNOW i would

447
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: just go to my dad be, like, Look I'm i'm

448
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: just worried about this woman's ability to just like pull

449
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: the wool over your. Eyes she's hurting. YOU i don't

450
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: care that you're married to. HER i care that you're

451
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: married to someone who is hurting you.

452
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 3: Actively BUT i feel Like dad's gonna not. Care dad's, like,

453
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 3: oh this is my.

454
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: Wife you should.

455
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 3: Care this is my. Wife, yeah she's.

456
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: Lying to you about, honey or respect my.

457
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 3: Wife respect my.

458
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: Wife i'd be coming from a place of mental, illness

459
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: BUT i can't imagine myself staying with somebody who could

460
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: who could do this to. ME i just.

461
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: Can't what are you, know you're just a.

462
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: Kid op, SAYS i want to add this story as

463
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: well about fran scene or First thanksgiving. Together francceine left

464
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: in a rage because she made us go around the

465
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: table and say what we were thankful. For my brother

466
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 2: said THAT i live in a safe, place and my

467
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: sister said for my. FAMILY i said for my. Friends

468
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 2: francine took that as a jab at her and, left, saying,

469
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: WELL i Guess i'm not welcome, here AND i Guess

470
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: i'm not your family because you don't want to love with,

471
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: me you don't want to, live laugh love with. Me

472
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: we were all genuinely, confused and when she came, Back

473
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: vanessa told her outright she was crazy for thinking it

474
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: was a jab at her and it had nothing to

475
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: do with. Her, franccene is that chice? CRAZY i swear to.

476
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: God there's more relevant comments. Here comment one, SAYS i

477
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: don't think you're the ahole for Answering franccene like you,

478
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: did BUT i would lay off of accusing her to

479
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: other people of lying about her Lung. Ope he, says that's,

480
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: fair but please know it wasn't just my thought that

481
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: came from. Nowhere there are lots that don't line, up

482
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: AND i do hear what you're, saying Fran scene undergoing any. Treatments,

483
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: ope he Says franccene isn't undergoing any kind of treatment

484
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: and said she was allergic to. Chemo SO i assumed

485
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: she would have left us by. Now apparently a holistic

486
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: doctor told her she could cure it with animas in

487
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: a juice. CLEANSE i don't. KNOW i just think a

488
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: lot of stuff she's telling us doesn't line. Up AND

489
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: i get the sense that my dad doesn't even fully know.

490
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: Either i'll keep you and your comments in mind WHILE

491
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 2: i process a lot of. This AND i DO i

492
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: have seen alternative medicine work or like alternative. Practice like

493
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 2: it was a, friend one of my friend's, Aunts and

494
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't just like Oh i'm gonna drink. Juice it

495
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: was like complete dietary, change very, strict like regiment of

496
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: like certain. Five it was, like you, know like a

497
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: Whole it was a whole.

498
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: Shebang it was a complete overall of like your life.

499
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: Right and it did and it and it she went

500
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: into remission and she was, free AND i believe you,

501
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: know she was intermission for quite a, while and it

502
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: ended up coming back but it's like you can get

503
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: that same exact result with traditional cancer. Treatment you can

504
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: even get results where you know, people oh that doesn't.

505
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: Work it's like there's also times where like you, know

506
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: you're not receptive For. Chimo it's like it truly is

507
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 2: not like a one size fits all. Solution but, regardless

508
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: it's like, THIS i don't think this person IS i

509
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: don't think she's telling.

510
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 3: Truth Until, YEAH i was gonna say until op can

511
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: on both, ends until it can be proven one hundred

512
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: and ten percent that she either a has it or

513
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: doesn't have.

514
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: It we can't just be like.

515
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: Assuming we can't just be LIKE i, mean it makes

516
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: a lot of sense if you line it up with

517
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: the ope's, facts but you can't just be like she

518
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: doesn't have it or she does have. It it's just

519
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: like ONCE i need, PROOF i need. DATA i need

520
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 3: all all that, proof which, sucks but especially with, her

521
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: with all the allergies and, EVERYTHING i wouldn't take. THAT

522
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: i would take it with a grain of.

523
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: Salt yeah there's a download commentaryor you're twenty six years.

524
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: Old in on top of Letting daddy And francine pay

525
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: for your cell phone and health, insurance this whole. Time

526
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: you're only getting your own policy now because you've hit

527
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: the age. Limit you're something? Else? What what an? Idiot

528
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: it's the dumbest Thing i've ever. Heard what, Hope he.

529
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Says i'm on my own phone plan WHEN i. Wasn't

530
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: my dad actually talked me into staying on it BECAUSE

531
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: i was in school and they got a discount Because

532
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: i'm a. Student and the reason Why i'm on the

533
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: insurance is BECAUSE A i can because My daddy likes

534
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: Knowing i'm, covered and b because it'll cost me three

535
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: fourths of my monthly income to get my. Own i'm

536
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: getting my own now because, yes the clock is, struck

537
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: BUT i. Can't but CAN i afford it and finish?

538
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: SCHOOL i don't. KNOW i might be out of. Luck

539
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: francine holding my insurance is the only amount of support

540
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: she's shown. ME i don't know if you know, this

541
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: but it takes more than that to have a relationship with.

542
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: Someone another commenter, says follow the, money in my, opinion

543
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 2: not the a hole to call her. Out if you

544
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: see shady things happening with finances or really anything that

545
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: can cause material impact to your, father talk to dad

546
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: about the will and he, trusts and he changes to a, state.

547
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: Etc OTHERWISE i wouldn't bother giving her that. Energy, hope he,

548
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: SAYS i never thought about all. That i'm going to

549
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: ask my sister to ask him about, it since they're.

550
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: Closer third commenter, says so you're in nursing, school BUT

551
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: i guess that chapter wasn't in the, exams so you

552
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: never bothered the combination of foods can give you an allergic,

553
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: reaction or even things you've had for years can suddenly

554
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: do that due to a compromised immune, system or a

555
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: system an, overdrive or a new component on or a

556
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: new component in the. Item another chapter you. Missed unless

557
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: you have, chemo you don't necessarily look bad even with

558
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: LUNG i think your story is bs she had a

559
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: kid at forty six or forty. Seven let's pretend that is.

560
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: TRUE i guess that you also missed the chapter where

561
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: women after pregnancy can be led with a lot of health,

562
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: issues especially a much older. Woman she gets it from

563
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: giving a joint gift with with your. Father that's what

564
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: married couples. Do. Uh from your, Description i'd say she's

565
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: an old lady with a compromised immune system and possibly,

566
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: hypochondriac but definitely. Autistic she has you in her health,

567
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: insurance saving you, Thousands yet you call your mom and

568
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: grandma your only support. System what do you expect a

569
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 2: stranger paraphrasing from you to. Do she's not your, friend

570
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: she's not your, family but, hey let's save tens of

571
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: thousands on her. Back add to the why you know,

572
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: what this is the only country in the, WORLD i

573
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: think where people are so weird about health insurance where

574
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: it's like a personal failing if you're not willing to

575
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: buy into a busted system that makes no.

576
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: Sense we don't know If opie's from The, states BUT

577
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: i Get New.

578
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: York we got they, are and it's, like because this

579
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: is like the only place where that's a.

580
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: Thing it's really.

581
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: Bad it's, crazy and it's crazy that people are brainwashing

582
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: into thinking you're a for not wanting to immediately just

583
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: like draw a fourth or a third or half of

584
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: your paycheck every. Month it failed to her freaking. Dude,

585
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: yeah it's. Insane add to the fact, that, yeah she

586
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: is not interested in. You, GOSH i wonder why you

587
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: sound like a dream. Stepdaughter and, yeah she's not going

588
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: to put herself into a position of having to deal

589
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: with you longer than she has. TO i feel like

590
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: this is coming from a triggered step. Mother you're all effing,

591
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: adults and she gets guff from you from coming to

592
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: your rugby match but not staying for the whole duration of.

593
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: It you're the. Ahole of course she can be. Exaggerating

594
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: of course she could be making the whole thing about.

595
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: Herself but even if she's pretending about the whole cancer,

596
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: thing everyone sucks. Here you're not innocent or. Nice you're

597
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: not innocent or. Nice even if she's passing, away she's

598
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: not going to accept you suddenly driving her to her doctor's.

599
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: Appointment she is only good enough for you when you need,

600
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: something and she needs nothing from. You opie, Says i'm

601
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: not that far my schooling. Yet WHEN i SAID i

602
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: had a graduation, date it was my projected. Plan, yes

603
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: she had a kid that. Late nothing Like reddit to

604
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: diagnose my dad's wife with. Autism what a weird thing to.

605
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Say here's the, Thing she's never acted like my. Family

606
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: there are things in addition to, theater matches and gifts

607
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: that prove. That for, example later WHEN i tell her

608
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: she never talks to. Me since this happened In, FEBRUARY

609
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: i haven't spoken to. Her i'm, sorry BUT i don't

610
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: owe her. Anything when my dad had us be put

611
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: on the, insurance a thing she threatens him with whenever

612
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: she gets, upset she threatens to take all of, us including,

613
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: him off of the. Plan as part of his child's,

614
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: support he got to pay my mom less by getting

615
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: us health. Insurance, Again i'm not bothered she wasn't interested in, me,

616
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: because LIKE i, SAID i wasn't interested in her as.

617
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: WELL a lot of the EXAMPLES i gave were just that.

618
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: EXAMPLES i can give examples of myself not being interested

619
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: in her. Either as for the support system, COMMENT i

620
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: never said my dad isn't supportive or that Fran scene

621
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: isn't supportive in other, ways just uninterested in me as a,

622
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: person to the point where the only thing we have

623
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: in common or know about each other is on an insurance.

624
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: Card my grandmother was my a one since day one

625
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: and acted as a second mother to. Me that's WHAT

626
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: i meant WHEN i Said maine support System maine doesn't

627
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: mean Only francine again only cares If i'm having a

628
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: baby and. Win it's literally the only thing she asks

629
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: me anything. Else all of these other examples are things

630
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: she never asks me. ABOUT i return the, energy SO

631
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: i don't ask her. Either the fact that she freaked

632
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: out on me as if we had this lifelong connection

633
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: made me freak the f out on her the WAY i.

634
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: DID i don't know why people keep calling her my

635
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: step mom WHEN i blatantly made the distinction she is

636
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: my dad's. Wife there are a lot of stepparents in

637
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: these comments that are mad at me about this. Post, lmaoh,

638
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: yeah that's exactly a bunch of triggered step, parents and

639
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: it's you know. Whatever, honestly this is why half the

640
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: time When i'm on the internet COMMON i want to

641
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: reply to, You i'm just, like there's no reason to.

642
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: Even, reply no need out, There, yeah don't need To

643
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: you don't deserve my.

644
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: Energy unless it's, funny unless it's just a, goof there's

645
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: no need to, reply it's not.

646
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: Serious the only TIME i like replying to comments is

647
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: like it's like IF i have the whole like fact

648
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: of like shutting them, up, like oh this, guy this

649
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: guy is talking about The.

650
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: Philippines he's Not.

651
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: Filipino you're, like let's get into this.

652
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: Update oh, boy oh, boy it's been a long, time

653
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: AND i went back and read some comments on my original.

654
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: Post i'll give you all this short version of what's

655
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: happened in the last. Year to keep it. Short she.

656
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: Lied my dad and her had an ugly divorce that

657
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: ended with my father being, homeless and scene winded up

658
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: revealing that she owed over sixty thousand dollars to her

659
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: ex in alimony and he was taking the house where,

660
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: her my father and sister were. Living the week Of

661
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: thanksgiving last, year she booted them both out and they

662
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: were both homeless up Until august of this. Year before anyone, asks,

663
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: NO i didn't have the means to help. Them the

664
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: entire thing was. Crazy she broke off the key in

665
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: the lock to stop them from getting their, things stole

666
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of money from my, dad and bought a

667
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: house In New, york destroying my dad's credit and so

668
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: many other petty and disgusting. Things yet she is still,

669
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: alive and, yes she was questioned about her, illness but she's.

670
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: Fine my dad realizing everything was a lie was, very

671
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: very upsetting to. Watch in my, opinion she destroyed his.

672
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: Life there is a special place for people who won

673
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: lie about The Big sea and two who do this

674
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: to some like can do this to anybody and just

675
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: live their life that is. Insane there's a special place for.

676
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: THEM i would hope it's. Prison can we can we,

677
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: like can we just institute a new island like when

678
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: people used to get shipped when they had. Leprosy just

679
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: an island.

680
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: Of people like this, WOMAN i Mean australia.

681
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: Just, no just a stray, Up like we can build an,

682
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: island like How china's been building all those islands so

683
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: that they can like take claim over like certain. Territory

684
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: but we can just build an island and have all

685
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: of the just awful people live on that island. Together

686
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: i'm not.

687
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: Wrong about, that, Right like they sent a lot of like.

688
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: Lepers but ALSO i.

689
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: Know THAT i know that The British empires sent people

690
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: were criminals To. Australia they tell.

691
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 3: A lot of people that they're like not fit For.

692
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah they were just, like we're sending you To australia

693
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: to serve out your, sense survive the. Wildlife and THEN

694
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: i THINK i think, yeah essentially they were just, like, yeah,

695
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: whatever just stay there. Forever we don't care.

696
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: Those people were, like we're we're. Hardcore we tamed the.

697
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: Animals so to everyone who SAID i was the ale,

698
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: suck we. WI i have officially started my clinicals and

699
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: hope to wind up in peds on collegy on after.

700
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: GRADUATION i think about my grandmother all the time and

701
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: wish she was alive to talk about to talk to

702
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: her about. Everything comment one, says you can't just be

703
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 2: booted out of where you legally. LIVE opi, replies Fran

704
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: scene's name and her exes were the ones on the

705
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: papers for the. House ooh, ooh so she actually didn't

706
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: break any. Laws. Dang comment two, says as someone who

707
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: has been in the kitter world from the TIME i was,

708
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: Sixteen i'm twenty seven at the end of the, month

709
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: going into pediatric oncology is. Amazing my nurses were some

710
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: of the only people who kept me sane during my long,

711
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: stays AND i could never thank them. ENOUGH i actually

712
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: named my service dog after my favorite nurse who would

713
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: come in early to snag my chart from whoever was

714
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: on my night. Shift that, said in regards to everything,

715
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Else i'm so. Sorry is there anything your father can

716
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: do legally against fran scene like prove she prevented him

717
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: from obtaining his, property and then the. Theft opie, SAYS

718
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: i am genuinely very excited about my. Career comment three,

719
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: says your father chose this woman over his own. Kids

720
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear what kind of man he. Is he's

721
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: getting exactly what he. DESERVES i have no sympathy for.

722
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: Him oh with all these just like awful comment.

723
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: People are just very black and white to where it's

724
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: just like one or the. Other what what are we

725
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: calling out dad?

726
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: FOR i, mean LIKE i, said if if he had

727
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: found out she was lying and didn't divorce, her THEN

728
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: i would have a.

729
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: Problem he probably got it. All at the same, time.

730
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: Is opie's father taking his ex to? Court opie, says

731
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: for WHAT i, heard he is taking her to court

732
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: and taking her. Crap is why she fled the state

733
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: and got crap under my dad's. Name and that is

734
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: the end of that.

735
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: Story sam here ogi. Host we're going to get back

736
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: to these. Stories but here's three minutes fads from our.

737
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 4: Sponsors, first my sister in law SAID i stole her

738
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: mom moment and turned the whole family against.

739
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 5: Me, well you're gonna be a mom for a long.

740
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 5: Time we'll have.

741
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 4: Time this spans over a period of almost a. Year last,

742
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: year my sister in law thirty six told me twenty eight,

743
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: female that her daughter's bike was too small and told

744
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: me THAT i needed to buy her a new bike that.

745
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 4: FITTER i don't mind helping out. Family we can financially

746
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 4: afford to help and are happy. To by the, way

747
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: this comes from comprehensis of mud eight one one and

748
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: if you want us to meet your own, stories go

749
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: to the r slash okay storytime. Subreddit I'm, Carly I'm,

750
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: angie and we're here to give good. Advice, Goofully but

751
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: we don't have all the. Answers we only know what

752
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: we would, Do so let us know what you would

753
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 4: do in the, comments And opie says after we got

754
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: her a, bike my sister in law asked if the

755
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 4: kids could come over for a few hours and ride

756
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 4: bikes with. Mine we. Agreed after my niece got her new,

757
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: BIKE i took a picture and sent it to her,

758
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: parents which was responded to with a vicious text from

759
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 4: my sister in law accusing me of trying to steal

760
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: parenting milestones from her and How i'm awful and shouldn't

761
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: be a part of the.

762
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 5: Family what after you just demanded me THAT i buy

763
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 5: your kid a? Bike?

764
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: What she accused me of teaching her how to ride

765
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: a bike without training wheels and said that ALL i

766
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 4: do is hurt those around me and cause mental and emotional.

767
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 4: TRAUMA i tried explaining to her that the neighborhood kids

768
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: were the ones who taught. HER i only bought the,

769
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 4: bike which again she demanded THAT i. Do my sister

770
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 4: in law told me not to text call her because

771
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 4: she was too livid and didn't want to say something she'd,

772
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: regret and that they would tell us when to send

773
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 4: the kids.

774
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: BACK i was. BEWILDERED i had.

775
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: Her kids at my house AND i didn't know what to.

776
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 4: DO i talked with a close friend and, neighbor and

777
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: they confided in me that they were getting scared for the.

778
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: Kids they mentioned some of the things the kids had

779
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: said about their home life and that they had just

780
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: gotten off the phone WITH cps because they felt the

781
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: kids needed a welfare.

782
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 5: Check oh my, god that's a little. Intense what did we?

783
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: Miss, HONESTLY i agreed with, them but BECAUSE i had

784
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: the kids at my house so, FREQUENTLY i didn't THINK

785
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: i needed to. Call four hours, later we finally got

786
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: a text that they were ready for us to bring

787
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 4: the kids. Back my husband walked them. HOME i sent her,

788
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: response stating THAT i don't believe in yelling at someone

789
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: and not allowing. COMMUNICATION i explained what really happened and

790
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: THAT i simply took a picture from my. DRIVEWAY i

791
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 4: also explained that their child had ridden a bike. Before

792
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: since they had ridden my daughter's bike while sister and

793
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: brother in law were there and they saw, it they

794
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: must have forgotten that she already knew. HOW i said

795
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: sorry and THAT i would love to, communicate And i'm

796
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: not trying to pay myself as a perfect. PERSON i

797
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: was definitely mad in. ANGER i did tell her that

798
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 4: it was unfair to put the burden of raising her

799
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: kids on, me that while we understand they're going through a,

800
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: lot their kids needed their own. PARENTS i was tired

801
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: of getting yelled at by her for the things my

802
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: niece was missing at, school AND i was tired of

803
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: having to foot the bill to take care of. THEM

804
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: i have my own. KIDS i said THAT i would

805
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: happily back, off and Because i'm backing, off there's important

806
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: information they needed to. KNOW i told her about the

807
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: NEIGHBOR'S cps. Call in, HINDSIGHT i KNOW i could have

808
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 4: handled that. BETTER i shouldn't have reacted in anger and

809
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: could have been more. Compassionate my husband's parents joined in

810
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: on the. Fight they all convinced themselves THAT i was

811
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 4: the one who CALLED. CPS i had a very harmful

812
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 4: childhood and have never opened up to them about. It one,

813
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: DAY i created a group text with all of my

814
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: husband's family and. APOLOGIZED i told THEM i was sorry

815
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 4: THAT i reacted in. Anger in my, RESPONSE i tried

816
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: to clear up the situation as much as possible and

817
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 4: explained why communication is so important to. Me my sister

818
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: in law then told, ME i know you had a rough.

819
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 4: Childhood that's why we were all trying to show you

820
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: how a loving family actually, works because someone has to teach.

821
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 5: You i'm, sorry this is a loving. Family, yeah this

822
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 5: is my role, mom and it's like you're like yelling

823
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 5: at me for helping.

824
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: You my husband was. Livid he told everyone he was

825
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: done watching them treat me this way and that we had.

826
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 4: Tried we were again met with the silent. Treatment months,

827
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 4: LATER i tried apologizing, again this time wrote handwritten apologies

828
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 4: and Olive french and expressed my desire to move. FORWARD

829
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 4: i invited them all over for. Dinner this broke the

830
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 4: silence and they actually, declined saying they were too busy

831
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 4: and the kids can play At. Thanksgiving thanksgiving rolled around

832
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: AND i thought it went. Overwhelm no one talked to,

833
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 4: me but they all talked to my husband and. Kids

834
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 4: they ended up canceling a Family christmas party because my

835
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 4: husband AND i are the only ones doing well financially

836
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: and it would be too. Hard many things have happened

837
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 4: over the past few months to get to, now BUT

838
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: i had a feeling to Plan easter. DINNER i sent

839
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 4: out invitations over a week ago for the twenty third

840
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: of this. Month on the, INVITATION i put PLEASE rsvp

841
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: SO i can plan for each child instead of doing

842
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: An easter egg hunt or doing a scavenger. Hunt AND

843
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: i was planning on having enough clues so each kid

844
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 4: could read two of them so everyone feels included at

845
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: the end of the scavenger. Hunt i'm crocheting. BUNNIES i

846
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 4: asked for AN rsvap SO i could have adequate time

847
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: to put together over eighteen clues And crochet Nine. BUDDIES

848
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: i asked my sister in law if she would help

849
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: me plan it BEFORE i sent out, invitations and she

850
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 4: completely ignored my. TEXT i took that as a no

851
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: and sent out my invites to everyone in my husband's.

852
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: Family everyone RSVP'd, yes except that one sister in. LAW

853
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: i also sent invites to my side of the, family

854
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: and they ALL rsvp. Yes my in laws don't know

855
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 4: my side is. Invited DO i need to tell? THEM

856
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 4: i reached out to my sister in law individually a

857
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 4: week AFTER i sent the, invite asking if she was

858
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: going to make it to the. EVENT i also asked

859
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 4: a separate. Question she only answered the other one and

860
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: completely ignored my question about the twenty. Third knowing her past,

861
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: history she's the type of person not TO rcp and

862
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 4: just show up with her four, kids expecting everything to

863
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: be prepared for. HER i told my, Husband i'm not

864
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 4: gonna entertain that behavior this. Time if they show, up

865
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: we'll tell them, sorry we weren't expecting your. Kids they can,

866
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: participate BUT i don't have anything prepared for them other

867
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: than a. Bunny he Thinks i'd be an a hole

868
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: IF i didn't prepare everything because the kids will miss.

869
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 4: Out i'm, exhausted but ready to hear my. Judgment WOULD

870
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: i be the a hole and we have an?

871
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 5: Update this is honestly like one of the most understandable

872
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 5: questions in like, yeah in these, stories LIKE i feel

873
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 5: like a lot of them are, Like, okay you know

874
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 5: what your answer is this.

875
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 4: One this one could go kind either way BECAUSE i

876
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 4: do agree with husband that like it is going to

877
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: a affect these, Kids LIKE i don't know if the

878
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: way to be Like i'll show her is in the

879
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 4: one thing that's like going to affect the.

880
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 5: Kids, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly it's like this it makes

881
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 5: sense that she would want to use this opportunity.

882
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: Because it's the first time she's had. Too, yeah and

883
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: then like maybe we wait for the next, one right.

884
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 5: Something and then also, too it's like if like if

885
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: she does just go along with, this then maybe that's

886
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 5: a sign that like she can.

887
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 4: Right it's just a lot of but maybe she's still

888
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 4: making the crocheted bunnies though they just didn't have the

889
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: scavenger hunt.

890
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: Clue, yeah which is kind OF i would think was

891
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: be the. OPPOSITE i would think that the crochet is

892
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 5: a lot more work Than.

893
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: YEAH i would think so. Too i'm, like can you

894
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 4: make this scavenger hunt both ways so that there's just

895
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: like extra?

896
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: Clues, yeah go along with another. Kid so, YEAH i don't, know.

897
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: BUT i don't think it's that big of a deal

898
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,479
Speaker 4: if you do decide to do, It, LIKE i can't

899
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: imagine these kids are really going to be like m m,

900
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 4: oh my, god my aunt suckscuse she didn't think to

901
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: include me in SOMETHING i wasn't coming to right THE

902
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: i don't think they're gonna hold it over you when

903
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: you sound like you hang out with them a lot

904
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: and you're really nice to. Them, yeah.

905
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 5: EXACTLY i also, think, like you, know if we're thinking about,

906
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 5: how if we're considering like how our, actions what kind

907
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 5: of messages or actions will, say maybe we should just

908
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 5: talk to.

909
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 4: Her maybe maybe we just be, like, hey kid's gonna

910
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 4: get left.

911
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 5: Out, yeah like, yeah just your kid's gonna get left

912
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 5: out if you DON'T. Rsvp also, LIKE i don't like

913
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 5: that you don't do, That so, yeah you, know give

914
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 5: it a.

915
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: Go my sister in law just texted me sorry for

916
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: the LATE, rsvp BUT i finally heard back on a

917
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: scheduling THING i was waiting. On, yes we can come

918
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 4: to The easter thing on the twenty. Third Also, aunt

919
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: my husband's aunt who they live with and who has

920
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: so she's planning on, attending but she may wake up

921
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 4: that day and not be. COMING i have heard everyone's

922
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 4: responses And i've been looking up. ATONING i promise to

923
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: update you all on how the event, goes AND i

924
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: also promise that this will be the last TIME i

925
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: plan to get. Together the backbone is. GROWING i swear

926
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: it's hard since we built our house close to my in,

927
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 4: laws who are all, neighbors so we can help them

928
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 4: in their old. Age LIKE i mentioned, above my husband's

929
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 4: aunt has pancreatic and his parents are often. Sickly my

930
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: father in law has a degenerative joint. Disease so up

931
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: until my sister in law moved in with my husband's,

932
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: aunt we were helping to take care of them. Both

933
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 4: then she moved in and we figured they would take

934
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: over some of the. Care they, haven't but also won't let.

935
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: Us i'm coming to terms with the loss of the

936
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: FAMILY i wanted my children to, have But i'm now

937
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: more aware of the Example i'm showing them of what

938
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: is and isn't, okay and we have an. Update, okay

939
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: fear of phone, Link i'm gonna dive right. In let's

940
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 4: we talk about it at THE.

941
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 5: Ct i'm totally fine with that update.

942
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: Too all, right here's an update now that the event has,

943
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: passed since my sister in law finally are. Suped right

944
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: before the, EVENT i went all out to make sure

945
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: everyone was included and had a great. Time each kid

946
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 4: had three clues in the scavenger, hunt so thirty clues,

947
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: total and they demolish it in thirty. Minutes one of

948
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: my nephews ended up being a complete menace to my.

949
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 4: Daughter he was chasing her with a squirt bottle and

950
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 4: kept spraying her. Glasses when my daughter told an, aunt

951
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 4: she was told to suck it up because the older

952
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: boy cousin was having fun and he doesn't get to

953
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 4: come over very, often so let him have. FUN i

954
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: had no idea that was said to her by her,

955
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: grandma mother in. LAW i was in another room running

956
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: a concandy machine in the. Garage i've since talked to

957
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: my daughter and explained that it was inappropriate behavior and

958
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: that grandma was. Wrong on top of, THAT i didn't

959
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: get a single thank you or good. JOB i had

960
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: my mother in law help with a few clues for

961
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: the scavenger, hunt and after it was all, done my

962
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: sister in law had the audacity to say good. Job

963
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: grandma then completely ignored me and didn't acknowledge the hard

964
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: Work i'd put. In after the scavenger, hunt my sister

965
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 4: in law complained that her toddler's easter BUNNY i made

966
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: didn't have safety eyes or nose and SAID i messed

967
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: it up and cause a fight with her. CHILDREN i

968
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: tried explaining without, apologizing that it isn't recommended to put

969
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 4: safety eyes and noses on stuffed animals for children under.

970
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 4: Three my nephew was, one AND i didn't think it

971
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: was smart to add, them especially since the KIND i

972
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 4: have can come apart if pulled hard. Enough but Apparently

973
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: i'm the villain for making a Different she didn't believe

974
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 4: me and complained about HOW i made her life more

975
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 4: difficult because now she has to embroider eyes onto. It

976
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 4: there was a couple things Where i'm, Like, okay, Maybe,

977
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: op you're just reacting about it a little. Bit BUT

978
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: i think that at this point she's at her breaking,

979
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: point AND i totally get. IT i get.

980
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: It.

981
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 5: Yeah it's like once you've they've done enough like justifiably annoying,

982
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 5: things now everything is.

983
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: Annoying, yeah and there's still being like mind YOU opi

984
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 4: like a lot of these things are still. Big we're

985
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: not saying that like this is rude of.

986
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 5: Them, yeah they're being just straight up.

987
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: Rude.

988
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, job and then just not acknowledging you at. All

989
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 5: you know, That, yeah and then complaining about making a

990
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 5: studd animal, Safer, like, dude she just crocheted a whole stuffed.

991
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: In nine of. Them that's for all the.

992
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 5: Children, Yeah like that's saying so much work and so

993
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 5: much time.

994
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: You can you can you go crochet nine of? Them?

995
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 5: Then, yeah go go embroider two eyes.

996
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: NOT i gonna take you very.

997
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 5: Long.

998
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah just Like, THANKSGIVING i was ignored by all my in.

999
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 4: Laws my mom came BECAUSE i invited, her and in

1000
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 4: her quest to be the world's best, grandma she brought

1001
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 4: a cotton candy. Machine the kids were thrilled her AND

1002
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 4: i had a good time figuring out how it worked

1003
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: and got completely covered in cotton. Candy my in laws

1004
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 4: thought it was the worst idea, possible how could giving

1005
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: the children sugar be a good? Idea they all left

1006
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 4: After Cotton candy after spending just an hour and a half.

1007
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: There my father in law complained that there were extra

1008
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 4: guests over and then he couldn't have the family. Meeting

1009
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 4: he told everyone except my spouse and me about basically

1010
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 4: he couldn't ambush me and the entire family tell me

1011
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 4: What i'd done wrong this past. Year everyone complained about

1012
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 4: every little detail of the, event and no one helped

1013
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 4: me plan it WHEN i, Asked i'm officially. Done i'm, exhausted,

1014
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 4: frustrated and, hurt and this is definitely the last Event

1015
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 4: i'll ever plan for. Them that is the end of that.

1016
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 5: Story.

1017
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: Wow, YEAH i would go pretty low contact with these

1018
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 4: people and they'd definitely not be coming back to my

1019
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 4: house for.

1020
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 5: Sure you went my Con, Kenny, no didn't think.

1021
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 4: So they didn't. Think you're not getting, anymore.

1022
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 5: Not getting any of.

1023
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 4: That they just sound like awful, people and you sound

1024
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: like you love a good. PARTY i, agree great, time

1025
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 4: you sound. Great and that's the end of this. Story

1026
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: we're gonna go to the next.

1027
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,040
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1028
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: Stories but a quick free minute break of ads from our.

1029
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Speaker 5: Sponsors my mother in law is alienating me from my,

1030
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: son and my husband is letting it. Happen tell your

1031
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 5: husband to stop, it, said my mother in law was

1032
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 5: practic be a. Stranger WHEN i had my, BABY i

1033
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 5: had postpartum pre eclempsia and hemorrhage with A c. Section,

1034
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 5: wow me and my husband and hers did a three

1035
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: shift schedule with the. BABY i felt weak and sick

1036
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 5: and was in a very bad. Place long story, short

1037
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 5: she did work. HARD i don't Know i'm throwing her a,

1038
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 5: bone but still was repeatedly, neglectible to the point WHERE

1039
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 5: i had to tell my husband that he needed to

1040
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 5: tell her to. Leap and by the, way this comes

1041
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 5: From Gea. Lavender and if you want to summit your own,

1042
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 5: stories go to the r Slash okay story time stub

1043
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 5: read it And I'm, Angie I'm, carly and we're here

1044
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 5: to give you good Advice, Googly but we don't have

1045
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 5: all the. Answers we just know what we would do

1046
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 5: in the. Situation so let us know what you would

1047
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 5: do in the. Comments So op says there was an

1048
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 5: incident WHERE i caught her feeding him in the bathtub

1049
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 5: while having a panic. Attack what that was it for?

1050
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 5: Me he gently booted her and we refused to leave

1051
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 5: her alone with. Him after, THAT i felt LIKE i

1052
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 5: was in a. Nightmare after she, LEFT i swear my

1053
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 5: son AND i were basically attached to each, other snuggling

1054
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 5: NonStop for. Months, okay SO i wish we had a

1055
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 5: little bit more detail on, that because this sounds like

1056
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 5: a little. Bit this sounds like a very traumatic. Time

1057
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 5: But i'm only getting that from your. REACTION i don't.

1058
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 5: KNOW i wouldn't expect that to BE i just. Don't

1059
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 5: i'm not with you, there But i'm gonna trust. It

1060
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 5: i'm so full of regrets for that time. PERIOD i feel.

1061
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 5: HAUNTED i felt trapped in my decision to have my

1062
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 5: mother in law around like that. POSTPARTUM i kept telling

1063
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 5: myself to be, strong my baby needs to bond with

1064
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 5: other people BECAUSE i may not. LIVE i THOUGHT i

1065
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 5: was going to pass away and had nightmares every night

1066
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 5: for a. WHILE i HOPED i had. Lived to gain

1067
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 5: some family. Connections we didn't become, close just texted pictures.

1068
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 5: OCCASIONALLY a year, later mother in law and father in

1069
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 5: law visited and we hung out and went to the

1070
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 5: restaurants and such for a.

1071
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 4: Week it was.

1072
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 5: FINE i felt, Like, okay past was messed, up BUT

1073
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 5: i can have a normal relationship going. Forward, apparently my

1074
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 5: husband set some basic time space to respect boundaries with

1075
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 5: her and she had been violating. Them so before they left,

1076
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 5: town he invited both of his parents to. Therapy he

1077
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 5: and his mom ended up arguing, immediately like five minutes,

1078
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 5: in according to, him because he called her communication, dysfunctional

1079
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 5: and she left the. Room that was In. July she

1080
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 5: hasn't contacted us, since even through an er, trip even

1081
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: when my husband texted her a video of my son

1082
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 5: taking his first. Steps he called her on her birthday

1083
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 5: and his dad called him and said that she didn't

1084
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 5: want to. TALK i just don't get. It, recently he

1085
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 5: mentioned something that she, said my mom said my favorite

1086
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: color was red as a. KID i asked her where

1087
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 5: they had been. Talking he said they have a family

1088
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 5: group chat and she started talking to him. There he

1089
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 5: was very. Nonchalot we go to couple's therapy and he

1090
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 5: seems to underreact to discussing. Her we had a session

1091
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 5: about her behavior and he said that she's done no

1092
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 5: contact to certain family. Members he said she expects people

1093
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 5: to just pretend it never. Happened he said he isn't giving,

1094
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 5: in but it sure looks like that's what he's doing to. Me,

1095
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 5: now we get a call yesterday that his grandfather mother's

1096
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 5: father is passing away and we may need to. VISIT

1097
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 5: i don't really know what to. DO i don't want

1098
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 5: to reach out, first but according to, him you will

1099
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 5: have to eventually because she, won't and he gets very

1100
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 5: upset at the idea of us having a bad. Relationship

1101
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 5: i'm at a. LOSS i feel like this bad relationship

1102
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 5: has been thrust upon. ME i have never ever done

1103
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 5: anything other than smile and nod to her everything from

1104
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 5: dire situations to comments about my. WEIGHT i smiled and

1105
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 5: basically gentle parented her away from. Conflict but INSIDE i

1106
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 5: am so angry and. HURT i can't even imagine How

1107
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 5: i'm supposed to deal with this person and navigate this.

1108
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 5: Situation my husband has no. Answers he's just LIKE i

1109
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 5: know it's not, normal But i'm used to. It i'll

1110
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 5: just ignore what she's doing but keep talking to. Her

1111
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 5: our kid needs. Grandparents his dad doesn't talk to, me,

1112
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 5: either but he never. HAS i know this is going

1113
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 5: to result in a fight between my husband and, me

1114
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 5: BECAUSE i really feel Like i've been treated badly And

1115
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 5: i'm so hurt and. ANGRY i can't repress it. Forever

1116
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 5: BUT i don't know how to move. Forward he is

1117
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 5: just so casual about her going no contact like THAT

1118
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 5: i am going to be coming in offensive and making him.

1119
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 5: DEFENSIVE i can already see. It BUT i don't want

1120
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 5: this in my life or my son's. Life AND i

1121
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 5: didn't create the. SITUATION i have never dealt with someone like.

1122
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 5: THIS i really don't know what to. Do and we

1123
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 5: do have some, comments but do you have any comments so.

1124
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: Far confirming it's his?

1125
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: Mom?

1126
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: Right?

1127
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah so her mother in, law her mother in.

1128
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: Law i'm kind of like at that point where it's,

1129
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 4: like if he is the one that's kind of just, like,

1130
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 4: Hey i'm kind of over.

1131
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 5: Her, YEAH i think that is his mom more.

1132
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 4: SO i can understand being really disappointed that you're losing

1133
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: that connection. Still but if he's the one that's, like,

1134
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: HEY i really don't want to talk to my mother, anymore,

1135
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: RIGHT i think we kind of gotta let it. Happen.

1136
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 5: YEAH i, think LIKE i know that you're in family

1137
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 5: therape and that's great that you guys are like talking

1138
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 5: and talking about. Things SO i hope that you guys

1139
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 5: have been having that conversation, of, like you know how

1140
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 5: you feel about, things because if you're in family therapy

1141
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 5: and she's in the family, therapy and then LIKE i

1142
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 5: wonder if do you even feel like you can like speak?

1143
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 5: RIGHT i don't know that's up to, you BUT i,

1144
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 5: mean hopefully like a conversation about, like, HEY i DON'T

1145
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 5: i don't want my kid around this. Anymore like hopefully

1146
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 5: that will kind of convince him to be, Like, okay

1147
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 5: we gotta lock in. Here, yeah you gotta figure out.

1148
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 4: She actually knew something about it or move.

1149
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 5: On, yeah we do have some. Comments comment number one

1150
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 5: says he knows his mom very. Well evidently this is her.

1151
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 5: Normal he here is don't participate in her. Game when

1152
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 5: she has had enough of not talking to any of,

1153
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 5: you she will contact.

1154
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 4: You she secretly likes.

1155
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 5: You scrambling over her and not talking to you and

1156
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 5: wanting you to jump through hoops to get her to

1157
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 5: talk to. You her joy is your. Reaction don't give

1158
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 5: it to. Her she will find that she's missing out

1159
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 5: on her. Grandchild let your husband send out any. Information

1160
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 5: if you are in a group chat with other family,

1161
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 5: members post pictures or videos, there do not send it to.

1162
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 5: Her she is wanting to punish you and your husband

1163
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 5: for daring to give boundaries and have you give her

1164
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 5: what she. Wants when she talks to you all, again

1165
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 5: and she, will as this is HERM, o respond back

1166
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 5: as though nothing. Happened don't say we missed, you or

1167
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 5: bring up what she missed on or. Anything just talk

1168
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 5: to her like you had lunch. Yesterday she will be

1169
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 5: hurt that her game didn't, work but maybe she will

1170
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 5: realize that her tantrum didn't get the results that she

1171
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 5: was hoping. For if you want to jiggle her, cage

1172
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 5: that's a crazy. Saying i've never heard that. BEFORE a

1173
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 5: picture of video with little one with your family or

1174
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 5: an aunt giggling or having fun will make her realize

1175
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 5: that she's cutting her own nose. Off nice Comp number two, Says,

1176
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 5: okay so our kid needs grandparents is a very bad

1177
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 5: starting point for any decision or. Actions the truth is

1178
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 5: kids don't need. Grandparents it can be an amazing and

1179
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 5: anefficial thing to have them in their, life but it's

1180
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 5: definitely not something a child Needs what a child really

1181
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 5: needs is emotionally available and loving and consistent. Caregivers usually

1182
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 5: those are parents or a single. Parent that is the

1183
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 5: only thing that children really need in terms of healthy

1184
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 5: and nurturing. Development many children don't have grandparents or have

1185
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 5: grandparents that are not worthy of being in a child's,

1186
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 5: life and they are not traumatized by. That no one

1187
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 5: was ever traumatized because they didn't have. Grandparents common number three,

1188
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 5: says let her be no. Contact nobody can control. Her

1189
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 5: for whatever, reason she doesn't want you in her, life

1190
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 5: and that's. Fine the question, is is dear husband going

1191
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 5: to try and push. This i'm on the other side of.

1192
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 5: THIS i have no ill will towards her, anymore but

1193
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 5: that doesn't mean THAT i ever want to be around her.

1194
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 5: Again she's bad for my mental health. Period it's honestly

1195
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 5: more loving and compassionate for us not to have. Contact

1196
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 5: i'm guessing that last part was op responding to the, Comment,

1197
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 5: yeah just got pushed together a, bit but we do

1198
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 5: have an. Update do you have any thoughts before we?

1199
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 4: GO i don't have any.

1200
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 5: Thoughts, YEAH i think this is go. EITHER i think

1201
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 5: the commenters summed that up. Perfectly, yeah do what you need.

1202
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 5: To you'll your kids will be. Fine if they don't have,

1203
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 5: Grandparents it'll be. Fine it's gonna be. Fine we do

1204
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 5: have an update follow up on mother in law going no. Contact,

1205
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 5: yes it is a husband problem. A according to my,

1206
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 5: husband she had been no contacts IN, dms occasionally responsive

1207
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 5: in the family group, chat and the last thing she

1208
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 5: told him was that she was mourning the relationship with

1209
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 5: our son and prepared to never see him. Again. Wow

1210
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: we had a video call with his passing away grandpa last.

1211
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 5: Night it was. Enlightening neither of his parents dressed me

1212
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 5: or talked about me at, all but they were both

1213
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 5: cooing and fussing over my son like nothing was, wrong

1214
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 5: saying see you, soon do you remember, me we still love,

1215
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 5: you et. Cetera his mother stayed off, camera cooing. Along

1216
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 5: then she referenced some pictures from daycare that she saw

1217
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 5: that day and asked for his head measurements to make

1218
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 5: him a winter. Hat so, one my husband has been

1219
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 5: sending her pictures of our son and talking to her

1220
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 5: daily in real. Time. Two apparently at some point she

1221
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 5: stopped quote mourning the relationship and is planning to have

1222
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 5: one with our son again my husband didn't tell me

1223
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 5: any of. This it seems they are arranging a future

1224
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 5: family dynamic between, them my, husband and our son that

1225
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 5: doesn't involve me at. All that's kind of.

1226
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 4: Wild, yeah you got like they really need to get

1227
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 4: on the same page of what levels of contact are

1228
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: gonna be had kind of.

1229
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 5: Thing, yeah and then your husband needs to hold to. It,

1230
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 5: yeah so they really just have not to. Her she

1231
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 5: has been no contact and her husband has been no

1232
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 5: contact with his, mom and all of a, sudden now

1233
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 5: she's finding out that it's they've been chatting up a storms.

1234
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 4: And sending pictures the whole, time.

1235
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 5: This whole, time and just not including the whole. Time

1236
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 5: see when it said it was a husband, PROBLEM i was, thinking, like,

1237
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 5: oh he's just like not having his spine or. Whatever

1238
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 5: he's like not not like letting her or he's letting

1239
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 5: her do this and that or, whatever but not just

1240
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 5: straight Up, yeah my husband is excuting me.

1241
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 4: Too, yeah that's, cool.

1242
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 5: Easy we do have a little bit more to the.

1243
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 5: STORY i THINK i have to put a stop to. It.

1244
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 5: YEAH i really don't want my son to see me

1245
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 5: treated like this and think that it's. NORMAL i don't

1246
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 5: want him to have grandparents who dole out conditional love

1247
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 5: and gifts while behaving this way towards his parents and

1248
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 5: eventually to. HIM i need to decide my boundaries AND

1249
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 5: i will take my husband to therapy and lay them.

1250
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 5: DOWN i am thinking no contact with me until she.

1251
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 5: Apologizes no. Contact that isn't the bare minimum unless she

1252
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 5: agrees to a therapy session with me and my. Husband she,

1253
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 5: won't BUT i obviously can't trust them in, private very

1254
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 5: limited monitored contact with our son once a year if

1255
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 5: they choose to, visit since they are thankfully long, distance

1256
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 5: we will not visit them or leave our son alone

1257
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 5: with them. Ever and that is the end of that.

1258
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 5: Story well, Way, WELL i have a really hard time

1259
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 5: believing that your husband is going to agree to all,

1260
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 5: that but or.

1261
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 4: Like he'll agree to it and it's still going to,

1262
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 4: happen and you're not going to know what's, happening and

1263
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 4: it's not gonna.

1264
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 5: Repeat, yeah BUT i, mean at least you know what

1265
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 5: you want, now and maybe you can also dream, up,

1266
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 5: like you, know just in case he doesn't do, that

1267
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 5: what Will.

1268
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly where will you? Go what's what?

1269
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 5: Happened and that's the end of this story