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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha, and welcome to stuff.

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Speaker 1: I never told your protection of my Heart radio. So

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Speaker 1: today's Samantha. I want to ask you. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any award that you are particularly proud of receiving? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I can't really say. I don't think I've

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Speaker 1: but I'm like, that's a shame. You know what, we

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Speaker 1: can fix that. I will make an award for you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm trying to figure out if I ever

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Speaker 1: really have. I don't think so. That makes me so sad,

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking this would be really funny, like

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Speaker 1: a school thing. Okay, well, I definitely gotten the most

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Speaker 1: dependable because I think that was just a popularity like

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Speaker 1: they us throughout names for people to be, you know, superlatives.

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Speaker 1: So mine was most dependable, which I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that means for a high school or if that's like

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Speaker 1: either the biggest nerd or you know, whatever whatnot. I

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Speaker 1: got some drama awards, got tons of accelerated reader stuff

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Speaker 1: in middle school. Yeah, I'm boring. I think I just

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Speaker 1: I uh, I was like, say, a lot of I

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Speaker 1: what was I voted as in high school? Most likely too?

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Speaker 1: It was a weird one like be a millionaire. I

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Speaker 1: and it's out of my head. Now you've got me

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Speaker 1: thinking in like high school terms. But for this episode,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about something bigger than Accelerated Reader. We are

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Speaker 1: talking about the Nobel Prize, specifically perhaps the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Speaker 1: And because it is Black History Months, we wanted to

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Speaker 1: But you can check that out if you want to

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Speaker 1: learn more about them. And there has been some news

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Speaker 1: In Jennifer A. Doudna and Emmanuel Chopontier won a Nobel

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Speaker 1: For instance, in twenty nineteen, only twenty women received the

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Speaker 1: choosing the laureates in Economic sciences. So how do you

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Speaker 1: I think it's really sad that our initial idea was

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Black History Month. Lets talk about some

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Speaker 1: of the women who have been awarded around the world

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Speaker 1: for these amazing things that they've done, because black women

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Speaker 1: continue to be powerhouses and have been powerhouses to from

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Speaker 1: the beginning, and the mere fact that they're not in here.

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Speaker 1: No one's in here, and it took till two thousand four.

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Speaker 1: So when we talk about Ida B. Wells and her work,

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Speaker 1: when we talk about Bell Hooks and her works, and

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Speaker 1: you start talking about what happened, why is this even

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Speaker 1: a thing? Why aren't these people in this conversation, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that it's so short, because the list is

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Speaker 1: so ridiculously short, and this is exactly what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: the systemic right down within organizations like this, and whether

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Speaker 1: or not they should be legitimately looked at as hey,

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Speaker 1: are you actually being representative a world and what's happening

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Speaker 1: in the world or are you just giving people that

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Speaker 1: you know and you kind of like a pat on

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Speaker 1: the back, right right, and and just to reiterate, for

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Speaker 1: this episode, we did include numbers from Nobel Prize at Large,

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Speaker 1: but we were focusing on Nobel Peace Prize. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: like Tony Morrison won Nobel Prize but you did want

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Speaker 1: to focus specifically on the Nobel Peace Prize. And yes

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Speaker 1: it was a depressingly short sad. Yeah, yeah, it is changing.

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Speaker 1: It is and I'm glad that people are looking into

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Speaker 1: it and having these conversations about it. Right. Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: one day, Samantha, I'll think about an award for you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you, I will, I will, I will, And listeners,

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