1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I want to talk 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: about something that happened in the election that you all 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: heard about. You heard about suddenly Donald Trump in the 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: election getting Muslim and Arab support, Arab American support in 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan. And this is kind of like 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: a shock to people. They're like, wait a minute, Wait 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: a minute. This group has historically gone with Democrats, but 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: it's been slowly changing. So if you weren't paying too 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: clods of attention, it changed a little bit in twenty sixteen, 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: more in twenty twenty. Then we saw a bigger switch 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: over in twenty twenty two, and then in twenty four 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: it was the largest amount of the Arab American population 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: in Michigan that went for a Republican ever. And I 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: think that what we saw in these last few years 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: was that our values are more aligned than we really knew. 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: And I think that there's been a push from the 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: media to keep us apart. But really, if you look 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: at the Christian and Muslim values very similar, when you 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: talk about making sure that your family is protected, you know, 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: when you look at what the schools are teaching, when 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: you look at boys and girls sports, all these things. 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: We're very aligned, and so we saw something interesting happen 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: with a couple of the mayors in our Arab American community. 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: So we had the mayor of ham Tramick on. You 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: may remember Mayor glib was on and he talked about 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: his support of Donald Trump. Well, now I'm pleased to 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: have Mayor Bill Bosi, he is the mayor of Dearborn 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Heights and Mayor Bozzie. You also endorsed Donald Trump during 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: the campaign, didn't you. 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I did, and I'm proud to have done the 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: endorsement and I'm really grateful with the results. 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Well we are grateful with the results too. But I 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: know that it wasn't easy, and I know that it 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: continues to not be easy because there's always going to 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: be a push for certain communities to go back to 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party and anything that happens in Washington, d C. 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: I know you hear about it on a regular basis. 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: And we were with you a few days ago talking 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: about what's going on in the state of Michigan and 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: what's going on in the Middle East, and you were 41 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: telling me some of the stories from your childhood, and 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: I was thinking, man, I'd really love to have you 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: tell these stories on the podcast, because I think people 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: need to hear it from your standpoint. We've heard, we've 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: had folks on from Israel and talking about what it 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: was like growing up there, what it's like today with 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: the I guess we'd call it a civil war that's 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: going on between Gods and Israel. You lived in Lebanon 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: as a child, and you told us some stories that 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: I think American people just don't even recognize, of seeing 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: kids shot by snipers right in front of you. I 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: wanted you to share a little bit about what that 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: was like. 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I obviously I was born in 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: Lebanon and I was born in South Lebanons, a bit Dishbael, 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: just just reborder Israel. You know, that's the village, and 57 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: you know the village is is has had some you know, 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: there's been issues between Israel and the city. You know, 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: got bombarded, you know, several times, you know, especially when 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: I was living there. I was so I was born there. 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: We lived in Bay Route most of the time my 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: earlier days. Then during the war when the war started, 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: uh in the seventies, let's mid seventies, we moved to 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 2: south to the south which has been to sad and 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: that town basically was we had to leave Bay Route 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: because of that. So I was close to ten years 67 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: all at the time, and you know, basically if you 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: need anything, you had to go across this railroad track. 69 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: I remember it like it was yesterday, and you have 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: to basically warm up and just like basically just run 71 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: as fast as you can to go across the railroad 72 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: track because on the other side there used to be 73 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: a bakery so buy bread. And during that time there 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: was a lot of you know places that closed because 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: of the Civil War. You know, snipers are everywhere, and 76 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: you know the snipers used to take out kids, you know, 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: because you know a lot of the kids that used 78 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: to go play around the railroad track or the ones 79 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: that used to run across the railroad track to go 80 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: to that buy stuff for the family. So I remember 81 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: like one time, you know, just like running across like 82 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: so fast, you know, because your heart you're a drone 83 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: mis kicking and you know, like you don't know if 84 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: you're going to be the next one to go down. 85 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: And you know, I've seen I've seen kids, you know 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: go down. You know, snipers, you know, taking them out 87 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: and I remember the one day when they actually some 88 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: of the militias they came in and they they they 89 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: fired RPGs where the sniper fire was coming from. And 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: you know, here you're a ten years old watching this stuff, 91 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: you know, live, and they took out a sniper that 92 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: was actually shooting at kids. And that's you know, that's 93 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: you know some of the I mean, it was every 94 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: day was like that. You know, there's you know, snipers 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: that useduld take out you know, people playing in the streets. 96 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: You know. I remember this lady, you know, there was 97 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: there was shooting in the street and you know we 98 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: had to hide behind you know, these the stairwells, and 99 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: one of the ladies she just wanted she was curious. 100 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: I remember, like, like I said, she was standing next 101 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: to me. She picked her on the corner and she 102 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: was she was out, she was taking out my sniper 103 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: and she was like laying in blood in front of me. 104 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: And so again this is stuff that you know I experienced, 105 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, as a child. And when that stuff got 106 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: out of control, you know, they were like, I mean 107 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: there was a slaughter basically, you know in the area. 108 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: You know, they were doing between the religions. You know, 109 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: the Muslims were being slaughtered at the time in our area. 110 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: So we basically left Beirut, went to South Lobanon and 111 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: it was good at first, but then you know, I 112 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: remember my dad was in the US at the time, 113 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: so we wanted My mom said, hey, if you want 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: your kids alive, you got to get them out of this, 115 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: you know, because of my dad was working in the 116 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: US at the time in Detroit for Chrysler, and so 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: basically he started his paperwork to get us into the 118 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: United States. You know, there's five kids in our family, 119 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: so I have you know, four boys and one girl, 120 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: and my dad started the paperwork. So we went to 121 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: the South waiting for our visas to clear. And so 122 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: when we finally got cleared, the night before we actually 123 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: left South Lebanon, the Beirut airport was shut down. You 124 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: had to go, I mean, the embassy was shut down. 125 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: So we had to go to this area by Cerea, 126 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: you know, to get our visas. Then we had to 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: go to Lebanon to get ready to move back to 128 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: the state, to move to the States. And so that night, 129 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: I remember, we got bombarded. You know, Israel was bombing 130 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: our village at the time. And there was all night. 131 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: Remember all night, we were up all night. You know, 132 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: they were bombing the village, you know, they were so 133 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: all the kids were hiding underneath. There was no bomb shelters, 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: you know, we were actually hiding underneath, uh, just one 135 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: building underneath the stairwell, you know, just making sure that 136 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: and thank god, you know, our building. They the building 137 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: we were at didn't get head but my grandparents home 138 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: got had you know, was demolished. But this is the 139 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: kind of stuff I lived. And you know when when. 140 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I was a child, did you lose your grandparents? 141 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: My parents? My parents actually they were hiding with us, 142 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: you know, across the street. You know, my my my 143 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: grandparents died of natural causes. And but I have a 144 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: lot of cousins that were killed, you know, during the war. 145 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I remember first cousins were killed, 146 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: you know, during the war and just recently and they route, 147 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: uh three members of like sucking cousins were killed. And 148 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: the latest bombing, you know, and they when they started 149 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: bombing Lebanon, you know, three of my second cousins were 150 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: killed with their families. 151 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: So what youre was it when you came to the 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: United States, We. 153 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: Came close to. It was December nineteen seventy six, Okay, yeah, 154 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: it was right before actually after Christmas, we came to 155 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: the US. I remember landing in New York and first 156 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: time I've ever seen snow in my life. You know, really, 157 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: that's the worst year in snow. I think. 158 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to New York. 159 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to you. Yeah, welcome to New York. And Michigan. 160 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Michigan. Well, nah, And this year I think is 161 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: probably similar. We've had a lot of snow this year, 162 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: and I think we've got another snowstorm coming right now. 163 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. 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So you come to the 186 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: United States, when you look back and when you've seen 187 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: i mean over even the last two years since October seventh, 188 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: and what we've seen since then, do you believe that 189 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: there is the chance for peace in that region? 190 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: Well, you know, before, under the previous administration, there was 191 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: no question that there wasn't going to be any peace. 192 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: You know, because of that the administration was not doing anything. 193 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: You know, the Biden administration or even Harris. I don't 194 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 2: know who's running the administ less less administration. 195 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: No, I don't think any of us now. 196 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: No, maybe one day we'll find out. But I had 197 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: no no confidence at all with the previous administration. And 198 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: one of the things that President Trump first thing he 199 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: went on stage anywhere in the United States, he's talked 200 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: about peace. He talked about ending the wars. And you know, 201 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: even me, you know, as as a marine veteran, you know, 202 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: even myself, I'm like, I don't want to I don't 203 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: want our kids to go into war, you know, especially 204 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: World War three. You know, that's what a lot of 205 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: people's scare was, like, Oh my god, my kid's gonna 206 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: be drafted, you know. I mean we were on a 207 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: break at World War three, you know, and everybody was 208 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: beating the drum beats of war. Everybody's talking about nuclear 209 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: war fighting there, whatever nuclear weapons they had, you know, 210 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: so it was very serious. You know, this is not 211 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 2: was just about an election. This is about you know, 212 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: peace throughout the whole world. 213 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: No, I agree, and I think that we finally have 214 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: someone who is a truly skilled negotiator. I mean, even 215 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: what we've seen in the past few days with hostages 216 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: coming home, and there's talks between Trump and Putin, and 217 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: it seems as though there's talks. Well, we've we've been 218 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: on and off again on the ceasefire, but it seems 219 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: like there's an opportunity to potentially come to a ceasefire 220 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: and get the hostages home In the Middle East. I 221 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: know you've taken some heat for the recent comments of 222 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: about what Trump is thinking in the Middle East. You 223 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: talk to me a little bit about the fact that 224 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: when you live in an area like Gaza and you 225 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: have this war going on, just like you had as 226 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: a child, where you're seeing people die in front of you, 227 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: and oftentimes we hear one side or the other one. 228 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: We're in the United States, and again, people in the 229 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: United States have not, for the most part, experienced this. 230 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: Most of us who grew up here have not experienced 231 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: what it's like to be in a war zone or 232 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: being bombed, especially as a child. And we talked about 233 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: what the future of Gaza looks like and why do 234 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: the people there get behind a government that committed this 235 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: attack on October seventh, And you said something interesting to me. 236 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: You see, you probably don't know what It's like when 237 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: you feel like you're being attacked all the time and 238 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: this person is standing up and saying we're going to 239 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: protect you. It really is a different viewpoint. I mean, 240 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: we don't know what it is to be on the 241 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: ground there. 242 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know some of the stuff. You know, 243 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: I shared my experience as a kid. You know. Here 244 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: you got a ten year old boy, you know, and 245 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: it's not just me, you know, you got all all 246 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: the people around me, and you know, a lot a 247 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: lot of people we immigrated with and later on we 248 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: reconnected in the US. You know, had the same feelings, 249 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: same sentiments, and you just want anybody to come and 250 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: protect you. You don't care who that person is. When 251 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: you know, it's just like a bullying school, you know, 252 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: when you you know, I was bullied when going through 253 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: school because of you know, obviously my accent, you know, 254 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: the way we looked, you know, we make We immigrated 255 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: to Dearborn and at that time, it was not a 256 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: good time in our you know, seventies, and so we 257 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: got there was a lot of discrimination. We get bullied 258 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: all the time. So you always want somebody to come 259 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: and help you. You know, it's just somebody to stand 260 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: up for you. And whoever stands up for you, you know, 261 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who they are. These are the people like, 262 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: oh my god, this person or that group you know 263 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: stood by me. They're trying to protect me. And that's 264 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: that's you know. And you know, even me as a child, 265 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: you know, I've always heard about, you know, the United States, 266 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: and my grandpa used to talk about the United States 267 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: and you know how powerful the United States at the time, 268 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: the United States and Russia. And even as a child, 269 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: you know, my grandpa was very smart, you know. He 270 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: used to say, you know that the United States is 271 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: going to become so powerful, you know, nobody's going to 272 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: mess with it. And as a child, used to say, 273 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: my god, you know, you know, I want the United 274 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: States to come and help us, you know, help us kids, 275 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: and you know, and we had no idea. We just 276 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: want somebody to help us, to just bring peace. And 277 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: you know that's one of the reasons that when when 278 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: I joined the Marines, you know, I just wanted to, 279 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: like anywhere I went, you know, I wanted to make 280 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: sure that I say that, like, hey, we're here to 281 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: protect you. You know, we're you know, just even kids 282 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: like right now, That's why I love kids, you know, 283 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: I love our youth. You know, I just I try 284 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: to connect with as many as I can, you know, 285 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: even the war that was going on, and you know, 286 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: and as you know in Lobanon, we have a lot 287 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: of people from that region here living in both cities, 288 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: dear One and dear One Heights. So you go talk 289 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: to them, a lot of them more affected, you know, 290 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: you just sit on and talk to them, you know. 291 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: And that's why a lot of people voted for President 292 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: Trump because they really had a hope for peace, because 293 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: he's the only president that actually took peace, and he 294 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: was the only president for the last I don't know 295 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: how many years that actually came and tooked to our 296 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: community and just said that hey, I want peace. Enough 297 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: is enough? 298 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was something that we had not 299 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: heard that. I mean, in the past we've been told, well, 300 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: certainly not a Republican, but even Democrat presidential candidates had 301 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: not come to Dearborn had not come to Dearborn Heights 302 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: or Ham Trammick and sat down and really discussed this. 303 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: And I think this year was unique in the fact 304 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: that we are dealing with this major conflict that the 305 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: entire world news about and even even though there had 306 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: been conflict in this region for years, this was really 307 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: on the national and international screen where people were constantly 308 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: talking about what was exactly happening over in the Middle East, 309 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: and there was this feeling of you know, this is 310 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: this is a year's long war. We can't get involved. 311 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: There's nothing we can do. And I think that was 312 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: kind of the message from the Biden administration, if there 313 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: was one. I mean, there was really a lack of 314 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: messaging there, but for most of what we heard, it 315 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: was like, there's not a whole lot that can be done. 316 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: We're negotiating to see if we can get these hostages back, 317 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: but there's not a whole lot. You said something interesting 318 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: interesting to me, and I think Mary Gllibs said the 319 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: same thing, was like, we voted for this because partially 320 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: we believed this was the best chance at having the 321 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: conflict end. 322 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: Yes, And you know what, like there's misconceptions here in 323 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: the area and our people as well. You know, they 324 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: think they think that democrats canna bring peace. You know, 325 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: we have some powerful democrats here in Michigan, and even them, 326 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: they couldn't really do anything. You know, they tried, but 327 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: they couldn't really do anything with Biden Harris administration even 328 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: before you know, I said, I spent you know, twenty 329 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: one years in the Marine Corps, and even other Democrats, 330 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: they really haven't really done anything, you know, for peace. 331 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: And that's the thing that I was afraid of the most, 332 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: is trying to bring another four years of Democrats in 333 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: the White House. And you know, under the bi under 334 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 2: even Obama administration, people thought he's going to be you know, 335 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: with peace. I think there's more slaughter in the Middle 336 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: East that happened during his administration the eight years under Obama. 337 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 2: Uh you know, I mean the Isis and all that 338 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: stuff was what became to power under his administration. So 339 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: there's stuff that was done before and I didn't you know, 340 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: and a lot of us they don't want to relive, 341 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: you know, what happened in the past, you know, especially 342 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: the chaos in the Middle East that happened in the past, 343 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: and you know so far uh you know, I I 344 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: know we talked about, you know, our president. You know, 345 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 2: we just have to have you know, good messaging, you know, 346 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: to the people in the area to say, hey, you 347 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: know what, we still we want peace We're not taking 348 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: over you know, any properties or any We're not going 349 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: to displace anybody from certain regions, you know, and and 350 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot even countries in the Middle East. 351 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: You know, they're saying same messaging and the same the 352 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: people here as well, they're saying the same thing. They're like, 353 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: oh my god, you know, they're going to take over 354 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: the Middle East. You know, they're you know, we all 355 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: you know that my cousins might, everybody's going to be 356 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 2: this place. So that's that's stuff. That's the scare. 357 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: Now, stay tuned. We've got more coming up with Mayor 358 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: Bill Bosi after this, But first I want to talk 359 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: to you about my partners at the International Fellowship of 360 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: Christians and Jews. After more than a year of war, 361 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: terror and pain in Israel, there is still a great 362 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: demand for basic humanitarian aid. 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Some people have 379 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: come out and tried to say, you know, sometimes Trump 380 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: comes out with these very bombastic statements and there's something 381 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: that comes of that, and you just kind of I mean, 382 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: we are a few weeks in and that's similar to 383 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: what we've seen with the tariffs. I mean, I think 384 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: that he understands leveraged. We know that the president understands 385 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: leverage better than probably any past president we've had, and 386 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: we know that he's working some angle. It's not as 387 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: though he's just throwing something out there. And I think 388 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: this is important for the people in your community, but 389 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: also in the United States in general, to understand that 390 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: he's not just making a generalized statement and walking away 391 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: and saying this is how this is going to happen. 392 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: He really is in there negotiating. He has a special envoice. 393 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: He's appointed people immediately, everybody got to work right away. 394 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: And the goal is really peace, I mean the ultimate goal. 395 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: And that's what I think we have to keep in mind. 396 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: And that's why I know you believed in him and 397 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: some other folks have believed in him, is that the 398 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: goal is peace, and that's coming from him. He has 399 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: been consistent in saying the goal is around the world. 400 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing that I share the same 401 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: message as you just mentioned. I mentioned the same things like, hey, 402 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: let's just wait, you know, because from day one, President 403 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 2: Trump is in advocating for peace. So we have to 404 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: see what the end results are. Just wait, you know, 405 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: be patient. And he's getting attention from all over the world. 406 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: You know, people, you know, they're I mean, when he 407 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: makes a statement, everybody's listening, and that's that's that's great. 408 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: You know, you need to you know, I mentioned that 409 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: before and one of my teachers, you know, one of 410 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 2: the rallies that you know, in this whole not just 411 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: our country, the whole world, they need some good, powerful 412 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: commander in chief in the United States. So when that 413 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: president says something, people are gonna listen. The last administration, 414 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: it was a joke. Nobody took any of them seriously. 415 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: So now people are listening. You know, Russia's listening. You know, 416 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 2: China's listening, even North Korea's listening. Our president, which this 417 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: is is very powerful. And and again you know our 418 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: country obviously you us first, and uh and that's what 419 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: the president, you know, he's he's got a challenge ahead 420 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: of them with everything that was put in this you know, 421 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: was put in place, and you know, we have our 422 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: economy issues. You know, everybody another topic comes up in 423 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: this area is economy. And so we says, just be 424 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: patients because a lot of things that president's doing. He's 425 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: got a great team and they're trying to put the 426 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: best thing, you know, for our country so we can 427 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 2: prosper and make sure that you know, we have a 428 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: very peaceful not just us, that world. 429 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: Well, so let's talk about that, because the economy in 430 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: Michigan is the auto workers for people across the country. 431 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: You heard that Donald Trump was talking to the auto workers. 432 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: We had auto workers for Trump. You're both of your 433 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: parents were auto workers. This actually in the communities of 434 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Dearborn and Hampshram. Obviously a lot of those folks are 435 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: working for the automotive makers. And I think that that 436 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: is a key demographic in not just just Michigan. I 437 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: mean we're talking about folks in Tennessee and Kentucky and Ohio, 438 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: a lot of the Midwest. A lot of what we 439 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: do focuses around manufacturing and the auto industry. And that 440 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: was something that people were getting very nervous about because 441 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, this is potentially leaving if you 442 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: look at I mean, even Germany just recently said we're 443 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: closing down three of our Volkswagen plants because we've suddenly 444 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: let these Chinese vehicles in and we can't compete. That 445 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: was something Donald Trump said, I'm not going to let 446 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: this industry go away. What did that mean to you 447 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: and what did that mean to Dearborn Heights and Hamtramck. 448 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know, so as I you know, you mentioned 449 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: both my parents. They were both actually part of the UAW. 450 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: Both my mom and dad they worked on they worked 451 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: on the line, and for me, I was an engineer 452 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: at Ford as well, and so I spent years at 453 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: Ford as an as an engineer, traveled different plans, talked 454 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: to a lot of employees, a lot of UW workers. 455 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends of mine that actually 456 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: still work for the big three, you know, they work 457 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: for GM or Stelantis now in for it, and you 458 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: know the biggest care for them is to shift everything 459 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: overseas and to shut shut plans down. You know, I 460 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: mean we've seen it here in Michigan. We have plans 461 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: shut down. And the messaging that President Trump put down, 462 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: you know, I mean one of the things that was 463 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: very powerful. One of the plans was going to be 464 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: by the Chinese in Mexico. They pretty much poulted everything 465 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: because they weren't sure what President Trump's going to do. 466 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: This is good for us, and this is what a 467 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of hourly employees, which like you've 468 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 2: never really seen that before. They lean more towards Republicans, 469 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: you know, especially President Trump is because he cared about 470 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: the economy, he cared about the jobs going overseas, and 471 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: that's something that UW always says. They don't want work 472 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: or jobs to go overseas because you know, I mean, 473 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 2: we have a lot of plants here in Michigan, and 474 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: that's very critical to make sure that the people here, 475 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: you know, they have jobs and to make sure that 476 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: the work and the vehicles, you know, stay here in Michigan. 477 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't want to buy a vehicle, you know, 478 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: like when I was overseas, you know, you can buy it, 479 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: like say a Japanese car. You know, they're tax that 480 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: obviously they are the tariffs or there's no tariffs on it. 481 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: But any US car is actually less expensive than the 482 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: most expensive vehicle over there. Costs a lot more in Japan. 483 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: So they put tariffs over there on American car, So 484 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: why can't we do it here? Right? 485 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly like Singapore, all of those places, it's 486 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: outrageously expensive to buy an American car there. So why 487 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't we protect our industry? And I do think that 488 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: this is a such auation where we you know, he 489 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: tells the story about the guy who was telling him 490 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: we're building these megafactories, but they're not coming to the 491 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: United States. They're going to be built in Mexico. But 492 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: as soon as you started to talk about it, everybody 493 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: kind of backed off and decided they weren't going to 494 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: build these factories in Mexico anymore. I mean, when I 495 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: was campaigning in twenty twenty two, that same person sat 496 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: down with me and said, look, these factories will be built. 497 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: Not a single one of these factories will be built 498 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: in the state of Michigan. And I think that's something 499 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: that auto workers even have seen. The jobs are depleting. 500 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: I mean we from twenty twenty, I think twenty twenty 501 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: to today, we've lost one hundred and fifty thousand or 502 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: no two, from two thousand to today, we've lost one 503 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand auto jobs in the state of Michigan. 504 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: That's a massive amount of auto jobs to lose. And 505 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: we've seen the factories closed, We've seen the factories being 506 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: built in other states. I think that was a big 507 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: It seems like that was a big deal to the 508 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: workers to say we want to continue to have these here, 509 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: and really that industry makes all of Michigan go. And 510 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have said, if we 511 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: don't have the automotive industry. Have we been able to 512 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: diversify well enough? You were talking about, well we can 513 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: diversify into the military kind of supply chain, and that 514 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: you come. I mean, you are a marine, so you 515 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: understand this. You know that we have quite a bit 516 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: of opportunity here. What is that? How did that play 517 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 1: into your decision to support President Trump? Because I know 518 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: when I was running the governor of Michigan at the time, 519 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: her name is Gretchen Whitmer. People probably sadly know it. 520 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: She was out there and she was really pushing to 521 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: get some I think it was some flights into Selfridge. 522 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: She wanted to have some additional an additional military base 523 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: in the state of Michigan. Wasn't able to get that, 524 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: But there is the opportunity for Michigan to kind of 525 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: rise up as this military supply. I mean, it's very 526 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: the work is very similar to what we do in automotive. 527 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: It's very precise and uses the same type of equipment. 528 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: Is that the future? Do you see that as a 529 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: future for us? 530 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: So you know, that's that's a good point. When I retired, 531 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: actually there was a unit out of Selfridge. That's the 532 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: unit I retired out of spent a few years at Selfridge. 533 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 2: It's I don't know, it's a huge base. There's all 534 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 2: services are there, including Department of Homeland Security. They have 535 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: they have a site over there as well. There's a 536 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: lot of potential at the base right now. During nine 537 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: to eleven it played a huge role for the safety 538 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 2: the security of this country, you know, Selfridge, and they 539 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: did shutter a couple places military bases in Michigan. And 540 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: we you know, obviously we can't keep doing that, you know, 541 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: we have to have something here. You know, Selfridge is 542 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: a big base, and there's like so much potential. You know, 543 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: we have take hom is unwarned and they do a 544 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: lot of vehicles military vehicles as well, and uh this 545 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: this area, there's so much, so much potential in Michigan, 546 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: like we can do you know, so much talent and 547 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: a lot of military members, you know, a lot of 548 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: like say reserves as well, you know, you have active duty. 549 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: You know, when they when they shut the Air Force 550 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 2: moved out of Michigan, out of Selfridge, they want a 551 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: beilieve to write Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. They 552 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: took a lot of talent from the state and they 553 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: took a lot of resources from the state, which is 554 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: it's not really good. You know, you have a lot 555 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: of you know, if you have reserves. You know, these 556 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: these guys, a lot of them, their engineers, their doctors, 557 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: their lawyers, you know, so they go in the reserves 558 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: because they want to serve their country. So you're taking 559 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: a lot of talent. But even Selfridge is so much 560 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: potential you can bring in as well. You know, you 561 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: can bring in a lot of people to come and workrage. 562 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: You know. I remember one time, I believe they had 563 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: like over fift ten to twenty thousand people that used 564 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: to live on Selfridge, you know, so now it's all gone. 565 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: So there's you know, I could share that with you, 566 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: you know, history because I've seen it. You know, I've 567 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: lived there. But uh, you know, the talent one of 568 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: the bigs. The other problem I was going to bring 569 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: up is a lot of our youth. You know, I 570 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: talked to a lot of residents both my said, like 571 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: there when they're one high school so close. You know, 572 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: we have it in our clients and a lot of 573 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: parents that are really having issues with their kids. They 574 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: get an education and they move out of the state. Yes, 575 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: because there's nothing here. You know, there's nothing for them, 576 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: So why are you shifting jobs to go somewhere else overseas. 577 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: Why don't we just do it here in Michigan. 578 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: That to me, that is that's that's been the frustration 579 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: for so long in Michigan, is that we are educating 580 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: kids and they are leaving the state. And you know, 581 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: you bring up an interesting point, and I think this 582 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: is something that Elon Musk has been looking at, and 583 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: this is driving the left crazy, but it's so important. 584 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: Michigan could be the source for all of our military 585 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: equip or a significant portion of our military equipment the 586 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: Midwest in general. In fact, we used to at our factory, 587 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: we used to make the axle housings for MRA vehicles. 588 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: But the funny part about that, now that you have 589 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: me thinking about this and government waste and what we've 590 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: seen with Donald Trump kind of digging back and clawing 591 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: back at the government waste, is it for us to 592 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: make the axle housing. We would make the axle housing, 593 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: and then the piece that fit on the end that 594 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: the axle housing would go to, it would go to 595 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: France from Michigan, go to France, and then it would 596 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: have machining done and some assembly, then it would go 597 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: back to Wisconsin, and then our other casting would ship 598 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: from Michigan to Wisconsin to be fully assembled. I mean, 599 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: think about the waste there that we are shipping military 600 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: equipment over just the tiny piece. And that's the thing 601 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: that I don't think people realize. Look at your car. 602 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: Look at how many pieces every little button, every piece 603 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: of glass, every piece of plastic, every piece of trim, 604 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: those all have to be manufactured, and they're generally all 605 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: manufactured in a different place and then they come together. 606 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Stop allowing all of this to happen all over the 607 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: world when it can happen right here in the Midwest, 608 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: and it should stay in the Midwest. And this is 609 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: something that I think you and I could talk about 610 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: for a very long time. And I think it's something 611 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: that the American people need to understand because the way 612 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: you are talking about it, this should be our top 613 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: priority is how do we build the military? And we should. 614 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: You know, we'll have to have you back on because 615 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to you about what you see 616 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: with the military and what you see with the president 617 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: being able to build the military, but you have to 618 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: have the equipment steel is critical for that. We see 619 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: what he's doing with the steel tariffs. But the way 620 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: to build up a state like Michigan is really we 621 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: have to be prepared as a military. We have to 622 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: have the equipment has to be built in the United States, 623 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: and that can be done here in the state of 624 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: Michigan so easily. We have to have somebody looking at us. 625 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: We have to have a great partnership with DC and 626 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: cut out this incredible waste where we're shipping parts overseas 627 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: just to bring them back. I mean, I think that's 628 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: a huge opportunity for us. 629 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 2: Yes, I totally. I'm one hundred percent with you on 630 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: that one. Because when I was I worked as an engineer, 631 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: so I traveled all over the state of Michigan. I 632 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: used to audit suppliers, you know, both automotive and also aircraft. 633 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: You know, when I worked at Bowing, I used to 634 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: audit aerospace companies here in Michigan. And some of them 635 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: shut down because you know, the work, like you said, 636 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: goes overseas, yes, go somewhere else. Like why we can 637 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: do so much here in our state, in the Midwest, 638 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: here in our state of Michigan. And I can tell you. 639 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: This state has so much potential. We have so much 640 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: stuff that we can do here in the state of Michigan, 641 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: and I have some ideas, but you know, I'm hoping, 642 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: you know, we get a chance when President Trump settles down, 643 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 2: you know, with all cutting some of the waste. I 644 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: agree with you. There's a lot of waste that and 645 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: I agree with all the waste that he's cutting, and 646 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 2: there's obviously there's a lot more. But let's save the 647 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: tax player some money and you know, enough waste and 648 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 2: just keep the jobs here in the US. 649 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: There's I think there's so much hope going forward. I 650 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: think there's so much opportunity and definitely for our state. 651 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, I could talk to you for hours 652 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: about this, and at some point we probably will, but 653 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: we'll definitely have you back. Mayor Bill Bossie, thank you 654 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: so much for coming on today. 655 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate you, Thank. 656 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: You absolutely, and thank you all for joining the Tutor 657 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, go to Tutor 658 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: dixsonpodcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 659 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts and join us next time. Have 660 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: a blessed day.