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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan in

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are thrilled to sit

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Speaker 1: down with Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Monkin. Todd, we came

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Speaker 1: prepared for the interview. We're wondering, where's your answer sheet?

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Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't come with it this.

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Speaker 2: Time or what? Well, it's the off season, okay, Well

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Speaker 2: if you're.

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Speaker 1: To answer your question, well, I know when I figure

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Speaker 1: you might have some notes, right, like just come with it.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: You retire that after the last game play sheet in

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Speaker 1: the drawers is done.

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Speaker 2: Shall we start the year back up. I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: I don't have to have it now.

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Speaker 3: So we always joke once like we're talking about the

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Speaker 3: draft making predictions, like we have a final answer, Like

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Speaker 3: that's when we say we're laminating it, Like it's laminated,

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Speaker 3: it's done. You can't tinker like that's it's done. Like

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Speaker 3: when is the play sheet laminated for a Sunday game?

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Speaker 3: Like when is it locked and loaded? It's laminated, ready

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Speaker 3: to go Saturday?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it'll be Saturday. I'll take it out.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it out of the waist.

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Speaker 2: A little bit different. Home games a little we have

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Speaker 2: a little bit more time, Yeah, before I have to

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Speaker 2: leave the office, because you still have time for the

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Speaker 2: meetings that night. But if you're going to catch a plane,

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Speaker 2: like I've got it done before head home to pack

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Speaker 2: or whatever you got to do to get to the plane. So,

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Speaker 2: but most of the time you're looking at Saturday or

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Speaker 2: the day before the game, sometime around lunchtime, sometime within

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Speaker 2: that band between noon and one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Are you a tinkerer, Like do you kind of always

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Speaker 1: go back and maybe I'll change this, Maybe I'll change

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Speaker 1: the order of that first drive, Like do you do

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Speaker 1: a lot of tinkering?

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Speaker 2: Well, the first drive's easy to tinker with because you

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Speaker 2: haven't called anything yet. Now chances are we've thought through it.

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Speaker 2: But the call sheet itself is done. The only tinkering

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Speaker 2: that could take place is if you made a mistake,

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Speaker 2: if somehow there was a typo that we didn't catch. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we use the wristbands for a lot of our call sheets,

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Speaker 2: for a lot of our calls in the game, and

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Speaker 2: what if one's wrong. The call sheet has it right,

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Speaker 2: but the wriskband doesn't have it right. Like that's the

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Speaker 2: tedious part of it. During the main part of the

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Speaker 2: week is the tedious of making sure you've got things

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Speaker 2: organized the way you want it. You can see it

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Speaker 2: on the call sheet what you're practicing. But the latter

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Speaker 2: part of the week wants you when you get into

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Speaker 2: Friday afternoon where I'm really working on the call sheet

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Speaker 2: and I'm getting most of it done by dinner time,

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Speaker 2: and then you just and you have to get ready

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Speaker 2: for the next morning's walk. But then you're the next

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Speaker 2: day before you actually, as you guys said, laminate it,

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Speaker 2: because I do laminate my call sheets. Not everybody gets

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Speaker 2: it that way. Once it's that you're pretty sure you're

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Speaker 2: ready to go, because it'll go to Megan. She'll end

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Speaker 2: up looking it over and making sure that she does

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Speaker 2: the wristbands, and we have someone recheck it just to

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Speaker 2: be sure. Just it's like anything you're you're now calling it.

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Speaker 2: It's like a media presentation. It's like the teleprompter. You know,

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Speaker 2: you want it to look the way you want it

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Speaker 2: to look.

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Speaker 3: How many play I'm curious, how many plays do you

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Speaker 3: put on the first like script out? Is it fifteen? Well,

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Speaker 3: it's twelve plays? And do you like, what's the percentage

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Speaker 3: that you call those twelve plays in order?

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Speaker 2: Is it a hard like?

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Speaker 3: Also you're I'm saying, like, also your pin back and

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Speaker 3: you're at your own eight yard line. You weren't expecting that.

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Speaker 3: Do you still stay in the script?

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Speaker 2: No? Okay, no situations. You know it's rundown calls. So

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Speaker 2: those are rundown calls. Those are drive starters. So I

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Speaker 2: don't have it to where no matter what, it's going

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Speaker 2: right down the sequence. Okay, So if you stay in rundowns,

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Speaker 2: if you stay in a positive you know, down in

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Speaker 2: distance ahead of the chains, it could go right down,

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Speaker 2: especially the runs. But get back on track your second, long,

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Speaker 2: third downs, you're backed up, you're in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: Then no, and there's been other times. You'll get through

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Speaker 2: some of it. A few of them you want to

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Speaker 2: read erect they're not playing nickel to eleven personnel, they're

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Speaker 2: playing bass. Well, this might not exist. We might not

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Speaker 2: get to this. You get to halftime and some of

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Speaker 2: them aren't on there because I'll pivot if I have to,

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Speaker 2: based on what you see, based on what you expected,

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Speaker 2: So you can certainly pivot. Nice.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we got sidetracked talking about the place sheet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you just gotta got back from the combine. What

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Speaker 1: were some of your takeaways from Indianapolis?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't takeaways. I don't think it's ever going

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Speaker 2: to stop. Players are getting bigger, faster, or stronger, and

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Speaker 2: that's just the nature of Thirty years ago, a three

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Speaker 2: hundred pounder was big, and now three hundred pounds is small.

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Speaker 2: So you're just continuing to grow and get faster and stronger.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think that, and I think with

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Speaker 2: with you're just seeing more and more polished players and

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Speaker 2: polished interviewers and as people. Because with whether it's what

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Speaker 2: it takes to get into school and college, what it

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Speaker 2: takes to stay in school, what it takes to maintain

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Speaker 2: a high level performance as a player, Like, it's harder

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Speaker 2: and harder to get through that time if you're not

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Speaker 2: squared away, if you haven't worked hard as a player,

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Speaker 2: if you haven't worked hard to be the best version

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Speaker 2: of you as a person, Like you see fewer and

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Speaker 2: fewer guys where you have questions about certain aspects of

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Speaker 2: their game and also certain aspects as people. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean that makes sense, but it just feels that

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Speaker 2: way over time, you're just getting less and less. Question

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that people still don't make mistakes or that

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Speaker 2: they're but you know, there's more, there's more coaching taking

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Speaker 2: place at early ages with all the you know, individual coaching,

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Speaker 2: even outside of your own team, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: So you're coming off a year todd where this offense

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Speaker 3: was was great. I mean, you guys were historic in

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Speaker 3: terms of the production that you had. So so what

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Speaker 3: is the focus and the process right now and how

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Speaker 3: do you try to stay at that level of productivity,

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Speaker 3: which is you know, Ryan's been watching multiple football his

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Speaker 3: whole life. You know, I've been here a long time

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Speaker 3: and this is as good as we've seen. But how

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Speaker 3: do you try to stay at that level? And is

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Speaker 3: it realistic to stay at that level year after year?

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Speaker 2: Well, we have good players, So keeping good players, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's one thing Eric and Ozzie and the organization has

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Speaker 2: done a great job of not only you know, getting

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Speaker 2: good players, but keeping them. So that's first and foremost

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Speaker 2: because it's it's about the players. But you know, one

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Speaker 2: thing that's great about working here is that coach Harball

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Speaker 2: loves football. Like he says it. He says says it

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Speaker 2: to our staff. You know, you'll love it here if

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Speaker 2: you love football. That's a fact because in the off season,

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Speaker 2: John wants to know what's next, Like, what's next. We'll

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Speaker 2: get our time off, but what's next. How do we

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Speaker 2: get better? How do we what is going to be

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Speaker 2: the next thing? What's next for Lamar, what's next for

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Speaker 2: our players? So last year was the same way it's

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Speaker 2: good off season as I've ever had in terms of

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Speaker 2: how we're going to streamline what we do for Lamar,

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Speaker 2: our players, our coaching staff, getting the most out of everybody.

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Speaker 2: So that's a real broad stroke. But like you said,

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Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, we've had this conversation coach

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Speaker 2: and I where you have to drill down to certain

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Speaker 2: aspects of your offense. Because if you just look at

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Speaker 2: a broad stroke, you're like, we're good at this, we're

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Speaker 2: good at that. That go to that, Okay, how do

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Speaker 2: you get Bret at Well, there's a lot of things

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Speaker 2: that we can certainly get better at systematically. How we

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Speaker 2: do it, how we practice, how we continue to you know,

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Speaker 2: put Lamar in charge, Like how we's even more comfortable

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Speaker 2: to line of scrimmage of getting to a premium play.

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Speaker 2: How do we help that because not everything still was

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Speaker 2: exactly the way you want it. Maybe the numbers said that,

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Speaker 2: but there's plenty of plays like all right, well maybe

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Speaker 2: we're better off doing it this way. We're better off

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Speaker 2: saying it this way, Maybe we're better off practicing it

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Speaker 2: this way. So there's there's a lot to still work

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Speaker 2: what others are doing. You're always trying to stay one

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Speaker 2: step ahead as best as you can the curve. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's that old saying. You know, I don't know who

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Speaker 2: But yes, it's basically like, you know, learn every day

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Speaker 2: like you're gonna live forever and enjoy each day like

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Speaker 2: at your last. Like you know, it's kind of like that,

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Speaker 2: like when we're in here, let's get after and enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna learn every day, like all right, what's

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Speaker 2: out there that we're not doing or we can do better?

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Speaker 2: It could be even just a week. So I know

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Speaker 2: that I rambled there, but it's that's the fun part

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Speaker 2: on the field, that's what we that's what we worked on. Boy,

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Speaker 2: we're better at that. So that's that's the fun part

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Speaker 1: Harves has talked about, you know, being excited for version

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Speaker 1: you know three of this offense in your mind, what

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Speaker 1: does version three look like?

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Speaker 2: Kind of like we just hit on I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: probably like version three. I think there's more that we

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Speaker 2: keep continuing to to put on Lamar's plate. And that's

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Speaker 2: probably unfair to say we're putting it on his plate

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Speaker 2: because it's it's our offense, it's his offense. But it's

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Speaker 2: really like in terms of and some of it happens

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Speaker 2: naturally because the terminology is same, a lot of the

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Speaker 2: understanding of what we're trying to get accomplished, I think,

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Speaker 2: and where we're headed with certain things. So I think

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Speaker 2: that's part of it. But it's also like, and some

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Speaker 2: of it's also Lamar's comfort with me and just us

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Speaker 2: and what do you want? What do you like? Why?

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Speaker 2: How can I do it better? How can we do

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Speaker 2: this collectively better? How is it that we get to

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Speaker 2: solutions quicker on the field and off the field, And

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Speaker 2: that's every year you just you gain that and how

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Speaker 2: we do it better as a staff and game planning

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Speaker 2: and what we're getting to and and some of it's

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Speaker 2: in calling a game. Situations that come up in a

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Speaker 2: game that you're better prepared for. Sequencing of plays. You

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Speaker 2: have to be careful a little bit because it's you know,

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Speaker 2: it's I'm always disappointed when a play doesn't work, even

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Speaker 2: even though you know that that's not you know that's

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Speaker 2: not you know, it's not possible that all the plays,

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Speaker 2: every single one is going to be that way, but

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Speaker 2: you're disappointed when it doesn't. But I think the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing that John and and talking with coach is that

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Speaker 2: it's a lot easier if you've done all the work

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Speaker 2: leading up to that and it still doesn't work. Like

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Speaker 2: you try to take the onus off of like whether

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Speaker 2: it's our preparation or something that falls directly on you

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Speaker 2: know us as a staff. You know that you you know,

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Speaker 2: time at the line of scrimmage for Lamar eleven, guys

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Speaker 2: only myself, but the staff, the organization. I just don't,

430
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: you know. It's all it takes is to just look

431
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: around and say, there's there's only thirty two NFL jobs.

432
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: There's only thirty two offensive coordinators. Some of them are

433
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 2: head coaches. And that's thirty two in the world, right

434
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 2: ten miles. There's thirty two doctors, thirty two lawyers. Like

435
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: this is hard, you know, and they pay me a

436
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: lot of money to try and be elite, and so

437
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't ever lose sight of that. That's why,

438
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: like I said, in six months, I don't spend any

439
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 2: money because if not, and you'll have lots of time

440
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: on your hand. So like that's just it, you know,

441
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: it's just you know, I don't. I don't take it

442
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: for granted. I don't. I don't look at it any

443
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 2: different other than you know, trying to fight your your

444
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: end off too, you know, be as good as you

445
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: can be in this moment.

446
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: Nice Garrett mentioned Lamar and the whole MVP conversation, and

447
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: I know that you're concentrated on winning games and not

448
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: dishing out awards, but I'm curious for your for your

449
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: perspective on this, because a big part of the debate

450
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: that people were having fans pundits like us or whatnot,

451
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: was that, you know, well, Lamar has Dereck Henry and

452
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: Derek Henry really helped out Lamar this season, and of

453
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: course there's truth to that. They help each other be better, right,

454
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: what's your perspective? And people kind of held that against

455
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: Lamar and said, well, maybe you shouldn't win because he

456
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: had Dereck Henry he almost ran for two thousand years.

457
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: What's your perspective on that kind of conversation.

458
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, again, I love you know, quotes that people have,

459
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: but I heard this a long time ago. And the

460
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: statement of comparison is the thief of joy that it

461
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: really takes the fun, the life out of just why

462
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: can't people just be great? And I don't know why

463
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: people have to try and decide who the best of

464
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: all time in the NBA, which seems like it's ongoing,

465
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: or who the best quarterback is when they're elite. First

466
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: of all, if you're in the NFL, you're elite. But

467
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: I don't care. If you're a starter in the NFL,

468
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: you're elite. You're one of the best in the world.

469
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: You one of thirty two. That's pretty freaking elite to me.

470
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: Thirty two in the world at what you do? Wow,

471
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: you know, let alone. Then trying to dissect that Lamar

472
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: was very deserving, Josh Allen was very deserving, Joe Burrow

473
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: had a great year, Sae Kwon, Barkley had a great year,

474
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry had a great year. There's offensive linemen that

475
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: have great that aren't even ever talked about. There's Miles Garrett.

476
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: That guy could be the MVP every year. Are you

477
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: kidding me? You have to try and block that guy

478
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: every year? Like twice. I'm hoping they trade him Steelers

479
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: out of trade t J. Watt too, Let's trade him

480
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: all out of the division. I mean, I don't. I

481
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: don't get into that. You know, did Lamar have a

482
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: unbelievable year? Of course he did, that's obvious. I don't

483
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: need to defend anything. I don't need to compare or

484
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: try to judge who's who Anyways, Yeah, I know, Michael

485
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: Jordan probably could have been the MVP for eight to

486
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 2: ten years running. I don't know. He's elite, So could Lebron,

487
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: so could whoever these guys are. And to me, if

488
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: you're in the NFL, you're already elite. And I don't.

489
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: I only compare my job based on where we're finished

490
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: statistic finished, statistically in the areas that matter whether you

491
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: win or not, not specifically to a play color that

492
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: makes sense. I don't look at it and go because

493
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: I think there are so many elite offensive coaches in

494
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: our league. They should be we're in the NFL. If

495
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: you're not, then what are we doing? But what helps that?

496
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Players help that of course, and a great staff like

497
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: we have. But at the end of the days, it's

498
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: I want to be at the top in those categories

499
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: and the ones that why you win, that equate owt

500
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: you win, but not per se comparing me to an individual,

501
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: if that makes sense, you know, I want it because

502
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: that helps us win in those areas. And if that

503
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: helps us win, then it's not like, well I'm better

504
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: than so and so that way, it's I'm just trying

505
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 2: to get the categories that fall into winning, if that

506
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: makes sense. Yeah, So that's the only thing that I

507
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: compare is like, God, why are we here? Why aren't

508
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: we better than that? And what are they doing? You know,

509
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: not like well I'm you know where you get almost

510
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: upset about it. And Lamar's not wired that way. He's them.

511
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I've said it a million times, like he's

512
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: I've never been around I shouldn't say that. Mike Evans

513
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: was like that, crazy enough, I've been around some really

514
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: humble superstars. Lamar is a unbelievly humble superstar. That doesn't

515
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: mean he's not competitive, doesn't want to be great, but

516
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: he is Mike Evans unbelievably humble. Their team guys, sure

517
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: they want to be thought of as the best at

518
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: what they do, but Mike Evans wanted to just win.

519
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: That's what he wants to win. And Lamar just wants

520
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: to win. But he also knows that him playing well

521
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: in the position is going to greatly increase that because

522
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: we all know it's it's your chances of winning exponentially

523
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: if you have a great quarter Yeah, that's the way

524
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: it is good players around.

525
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, what's what's something about Lamar and his eliteness

526
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: or greatness that people may not know or appreciate enough.

527
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: First off, T Martin does a great job with him,

528
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: Like he does a a great job and so lucky

529
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: that when we got here that we were able to,

530
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: you know, move Tea from from receivers to quarterbacks. Bill work.

531
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: He's an unbelievable conduit between me and Lamar because I'm busy.

532
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: He gets, you know, I'm not in there all the time.

533
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: So that that's the start of it. But he has

534
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: unbelievable vision, how he sees the field. When I first

535
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: got here and when when Lamar signed his contract, I

536
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: think it was that press conference and I'd never been

537
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: around Lamar, and Coach Harbaugh brought it up. He said,

538
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: you know, talked about that, Yeah, you know Lamar's ability

539
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: to see the field, and he was right, Like the

540
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: way he sees the field and plays the game is

541
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: one of one. Like I mean, like his ability to escape,

542
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: and you always knew he escaped, but it's so calm

543
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: Like he escapes. He jumps right, jumps left, jumps back forward, fate,

544
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: put hand in someone's face, masks he like like there

545
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: is no panic of throwing it away. Like he always

546
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: feels like he's in control. Never not seen him in control,

547
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: seize the field unbelievably well, like feels like he's in control.

548
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: Those are things that you didn't know, you don't know,

549
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: and you see it and you're like, well, that's not

550
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: only is he this this this he's it's uh, it's

551
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: it's unique and it's fun to work with because the

552
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: things that I like to do or that we like

553
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: to do as coaches, those are things that are very

554
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: difficult to teach when you have those other things and

555
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: he's done a great job, like you can even see

556
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: like Lamar's accuracy off platform that throws that he makes

557
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: like like you this year is so incredible that even

558
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: with the few amount of interceptions that he threw, try

559
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: to go through the year and find ones where like

560
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: they dropped it right, he threw it right in the

561
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: middle of someone's chest that we all would do where

562
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: he didn't see him like that didn't occur if it

563
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: did not very often, or or he just missed a

564
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: throw like it's a rarety, We're like, while we threw

565
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: that one in the dirt, Yeah it happens, not all

566
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: that often. Might have overthrown him by a little, but

567
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: it wasn't like so off you know what I'm saying,

568
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: to work, So those things are he's gotten so much

569
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: better through tea in him and just you know, and

570
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: we're doing the same things over and over, so that helps.

571
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: But his ability to find windows, his vision, his ability

572
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: to move, you know, see things around him and stay

573
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: under control is unique.

574
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: He asked you about Derrick Henry and obviously Harrek had

575
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: an awesome year, almost run for two thousand yards. Should

576
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: he still has plenty of gas left in the tank

577
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: and worked out as a perfect signing last year. How

578
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: do you build off of a tremendous first year for

579
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: Derek in Baltimore?

580
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: Well, I forgot to even talk about Derek. So Derek,

581
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: I mean, what a great addition, not only a great player,

582
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: but a tremendous pro and a great teammate. And it's

583
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: just different. I'm going to start off with this, like

584
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: Lamar has been around her. Now everybody knows Lamar and

585
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: you know, but Lamar in some ways looks like everybody else,

586
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: like just looks like everybody's just a human being walking

587
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: in the building. Like there's Lamar talks. Derek doesn't talk,

588
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: and he looks like a Greek god. So that's like this,

589
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: it's like a mythical creature in a good way, just

590
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: walked through their It's like this big guy, contagious smile,

591
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: doesn't talk, he just works, and it's like you don't

592
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: know what to make of it. It's like, okay, Derek,

593
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, and then you watch him run and it

594
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: just like wow, like it became like this mythical like

595
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: like Lamar, what do he compare to the cars or something?

596
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go that far, like it's a movie,

597
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: Like I look at it like a like I'm a

598
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: Greek god walked in and it's like almost different because

599
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: he looks different, he acts different. He's a pro. It's

600
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: important how he prepares, how he takes care of himself,

601
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: how he's ready for the game. It's you can't even

602
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: put a price on that of what it looks like.

603
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: Like guys, young guys look at the way he goes

604
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: about his business and the way he carries himself. And

605
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: then like said, to see the big guy run, you know,

606
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: they're just it's so cool, you know, in that regard

607
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: from that end of it, But I thought our along

608
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: with that, he's a team guy. Sure, does he want

609
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: the ball? Yes, you know, does he want to run

610
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: for a ton of yards? Yes? Because it helps us

611
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: win and he believes in himself as a player. He's

612
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: never said anything to me, even though there's probably plenty

613
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: of times that he would want the ball more often,

614
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: which I respect, So does Isaiah likely, so does Mark Andrews,

615
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: so does everybody. But I respect that about all of

616
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: our skill guys, they're very they're very understanding of when

617
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: you have multiple skill guys. But Derek is awesome in

618
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: that regard. And I thought our run game guys did

619
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: an unbelievable job. Travis Sweitzer, you know George Warhop coming

620
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: in once we lost Joe and Willie Taggert and George

621
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: gotzee because you know, you got to get the big

622
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: guy running man. If you can get the big guy running,

623
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: how do we get him running man? When he hits

624
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 2: that hole, whether it's a gap scheme, wide zone, some

625
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: sort of zone, you know, cut the defense, some sort

626
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: of trap, or wham. When you get the big guy going,

627
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: him getting a second level. And I thought they killed it.

628
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: Our run game guys killed it, and then he killed it.

629
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: He allowed him to shine, allowed him to let his

630
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: skills shine.

631
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: Great. You mentioned these coaches. How big is it to

632
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: get your your off as a coaching staff back? You

633
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: know you keep the staff in tax.

634
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: No, it's we got a great staff. We got a

635
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: great staff. I mean, I get way too much credit.

636
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: You know, we got great players and we got a

637
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: great staff. And they come up with a game plan

638
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: and I just I just get to call it and

639
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: I get to oversee it. And but again I'm gonna

640
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: steal another saying that people.

641
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: You know, you're full of these quotes.

642
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: I love it. I remember that's the greatest thing about

643
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: social media is that if whatever you look at, you

644
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: keep getting back. It's like you look at famous quotes,

645
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 2: now you start getting quotes for I don't want many quotes,

646
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, so you're like looking at it,

647
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: and it's like someone says, the best way to get

648
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: to a perfect idea is have a lot of ideas.

649
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: Like you got to have a lot of guys that

650
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: add to your game play. You can't be the only guy.

651
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: Like that's that's so wrong to think that you've got

652
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: it all. Just I mean the guys that are all

653
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: part of the game plan. It doesn't matter if you're

654
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: part of the offense. You're part of the game plan.

655
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: And I always when I didn't call it, I like

656
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: none like coming up with a player a thought that

657
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: works as an assistant it's really cool. Or your players

658
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 2: as an assistant coach they play well, that's really cool.

659
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: Or you taught something on the field or play you know,

660
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: or I'm the OFFENSI core when we score right, whatever

661
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: you're responsible for, your name's on it. So and I

662
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: think you get more when it's collaborative. I think it's

663
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: the same with your players. Like when it's collaborative and

664
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: you're part of it, you're going to get more out

665
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: of everybody. And that's the same with our staff because

666
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: you want it to be collaborative because it's easy when

667
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: it goes one way, But if it goes the other

668
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: way and you only want to make a decision very difficult,

669
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: very difficult, it's not collaborative. Now, we should have done this,

670
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 2: could have done this. Well know, we all did it together.

671
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: This is what we are. This is who we are

672
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: as a Raven staff collectively. And that doesn't mean you

673
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: get your way, but you're gonna ever say that's part

674
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: of it, like to decide what we run. That's that's

675
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: what they pay me to do because that's what they do.

676
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: But you're going to have your say and what we

677
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: can do, how we do it, why we do it,

678
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: And it's also part of that. If if you don't

679
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: take ideas, you don't allow your staff to have that

680
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: important so the players, you won't get them anymore. Doesn't

681
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: matter what it is in any organization. You know, if

682
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: Steve Bushatti consistently asked you, Garrett, like what do you

683
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: think would what you do here? And after about five

684
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: times they don't do one of them, You're like, what

685
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, what the hell I do, doesn't matter what

686
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: I say. You want involvement, you want collaborative, then the

687
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: players have to be involved and the coaches have to

688
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: be involved. And to me, that's where you you get

689
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: the most out of anything that you're trying to do.

690
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: And so I'm just real lucky because we have not

691
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: only great players, great teammates want to be involved, want

692
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: to know why we do things. The staff does a

693
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: great job of game planning, and the longer year together,

694
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: that is, they become to know things that you look

695
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 2: forward forward to look you look for in the game

696
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: plan and whatnot. What's all my scars are that I

697
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: don't like that you know? And whatnot? On any relationship,

698
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully it gets better with age and the

699
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: more you're together.

700
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: The this year time last year, we're all talking about

701
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: the offensive line and you know it was getting kind

702
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: of reworked to replace three starters on that line. Just

703
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: when you look back on it, how do you feel

704
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: about the way that the offensive line progressed throughout the year,

705
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: and does it give you more confidence that hey, there

706
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: could be more turnover this year, and that's all right,

707
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, like hopefully we keep Ronnie. We're optimistic that

708
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: we can. But if it happens right that, like we're

709
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna be all right, you know what I mean?

710
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: Well, first off, you're right. In all the years I've

711
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 2: been in the NFL or does excuse me, it doesn't

712
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: matter what level you are of, there's always some animosity

713
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: when you have to replace players that you haven't seen

714
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: do it. That's a fact. I don't I don't care

715
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: what it is. It's like if you went in to

716
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: see a doctor for the first time and you have

717
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: to have an operation and it's their first one. It's

718
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: a little bit wait a minute, like is this really

719
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: you know? But that other guy retired already moved on,

720
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: Like you don't have a choice. So you got to

721
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: trust in the draft and the development. You have to

722
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: trust in putting the pieces in the right spot. You

723
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: have to trust in some of your game planning to

724
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: mass some of that. And then ultimately, a coach told

725
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: me a long time ago, another one I remember it

726
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: is the sooner you learn to coach the guys that

727
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: show up in your room, the happier you'll be the moment.

728
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: That's the way it is. You coach the heck out

729
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: of those guys. It does not matter. It does not matter.

730
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: There's nothing in my contract that said, well, you know,

731
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: we lost these guys like we're okay, you know if

732
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: we go five hundred, like, no, you we got to

733
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: figure out how we're going to do it, put the

734
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: pieces together so we can move the ball and score.

735
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: It does not mean we still have enough. And you know,

736
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: with the old line, Joe had done a great job

737
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: to start with it. Hop took it from there and

738
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: the guys, you know, and we got some you know, Roger,

739
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: we drafted Roger was able to move us to Daniel inside,

740
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: which was huge. And then you know Ronnie had had

741
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: a great year and Pat McCary playing at left guard

742
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: like he'd been kind of a rotational center tackle maybe

743
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: not as much guard, you know, but I mean, what

744
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: a great year those guys had collectively, and we stayed healthy,

745
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: Like how does that happen? Even collectively? Offensively? We we

746
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: didn't lose a lot of games to our wideouts, our backs.

747
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: Justice we lost a couple you know, in and out

748
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: maybe you know, shod and then say at the end,

749
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: but really we stayed relatively healthy. The old line stayed

750
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: healthy the whole year, other than when we lost Andrew,

751
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: which moved Patrick in there. But Ron he played so

752
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: well that it allowed us to, you know, maybe chip

753
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more on Roger's side and do some things.

754
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: But that's part of the NFL. I mean, you can't

755
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: everybody's like, boy, you want to be with an organation

756
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: that drafts well and and identifies talent well there Eventually

757
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: you can't keep everybody that's just a nature. The way

758
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: this sleek works, it's not you can't. You have to

759
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: make tough decisions and you have to trust in Eric

760
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: and Ozzie and John to make the right decision. Then

761
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: whatever that is, it's over. It's over. Eliminate human nature. Well,

762
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: if we had this, it it's over. This is what

763
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: we have. This is what you have to do. And

764
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: luckily we've had a lot, we've had a lot to

765
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: work with. I've been blessed in that regarde. You know

766
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: that we've not only skill guys, but we've got you know,

767
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: guys up front that really played played well, and we've

768
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: been able to run the football and control the game.

769
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Roger played really well obviously as a

770
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: rookie season. I thought fole Lely came of a way too,

771
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, first first time playing red guard.

772
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: No, it's you don't know. But you got really good coaches.

773
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: You've got guys that really want to be good. There's

774
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: a reason why you drafted them. Now you've got to try,

775
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: like heck to get it out of them. Yeah, you know,

776
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: and that's our job. You know. You can't that Georgia

777
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: was easier. There's are times where we were able to

778
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: get in a given year, ten first round picks with

779
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: the guys that we got. Well, you don't get that here, right,

780
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: You've got to do a great job of trusting the

781
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: evaluation process and the guys that you know that that

782
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: decide on who we take eric and then keep developing them.

783
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: And that's one thing that's great about a stable organization

784
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: that I've seen over the years. And I'm getting off

785
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: a little tangent here, but it's like the key to

786
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: a stable organization starts in personnel and the head coach

787
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: because they're going to see it through with a player.

788
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: When you change out coaches and personnel, everybody wants to

789
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: change out, So then you're constantly changing out forget systems,

790
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: you're never seeing the best of that player because they

791
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: develop at a different rate. So whether it's is it

792
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: Ben Powers played his best football like in his fourth year,

793
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: you know, or or you take in John Simpson and

794
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: you develop him and he gets his confidence back and

795
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: he moves on, or whoever that is that you just

796
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: you know, Charlie Kohlar compared to him when I got here,

797
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: Like Ryan Jensen we had and we sign him at

798
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: Tampa away from here, Like those are the guys that

799
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: if you're trading out, you don't see the fruits of

800
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: your labor. You know, you just don't because you're ready

801
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 2: to move. You need it. And I get it because

802
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: as coaches we needn't be a good one now. He's

803
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: only going to be good in four years really for

804
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: who So I get it. I get that. I'm not

805
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: naive to that, but yet you got to trust it,

806
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: Like there's a reason why we took them. There's a

807
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 2: reason why. We just got to continue to keep developing

808
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: them as a staff and find what they can do,

809
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: not what they can't do. That's another big part of

810
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: it is they've got to be able to do something

811
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: or we wouldn't have taken them. Where is that? You know,

812
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: we don't have this, but we have this. Okay, well

813
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: let's pivot to that. You know we're not there's Well,

814
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: they don't fit our systems, so we just won't be

815
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: very good because we just don't what No, they are

816
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: our system. Our players are our system. Our system is

817
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: who they are, and that's the way it has to be.

818
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: Is that always been your coaching philosophy? Like I fit

819
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 3: my I fit my system to the players.

820
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Well, I'm been a coordinator, like for thirty five years.

821
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: I've had my moments where I haven't been. But it

822
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: just seems like that makes so much sense. I don't,

823
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't. It never made any sense

824
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: to say that this is what we do and be

825
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: stubborn with it, like you learn. Like prime example, like, uh,

826
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: we were at Eastern Michigan. We're playing Michigan State and

827
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: I'm coaching, I'm calling the plays and we weren't a

828
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: big motion shift stack, you know, and we line up

829
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: against Michigan State and uh Nick Saban was there and uh,

830
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: I think it was the first game of the year. Now,

831
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: it might have been the second game. We might have

832
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: played the first game maybe, I don't know, first or

833
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: second game. We either beat a one double something like that.

834
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: We went there and we went seven straight three and

835
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: outs to start the game. I mean our punter, you know,

836
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: probably dehydrate it. But we didn't move our guys. We

837
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: were stationary and we just kind of said, well, you know,

838
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: if we're not good enough, we're just not good enough.

839
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: Well we found that out in a hurry. We weren't

840
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: good enough. Well, here we're lucky. We have guys can separate.

841
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: We don't always have to be stacked bunch, move boom around.

842
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: But what are you gonna do? Just say, well, it's

843
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: not what we do right, Well, you're gonna get fired eventually.

844
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: To me, yeah, just I don't do that.

845
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: You guys would have to pivot right right totally.

846
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: Whatever you're asked to do or whatever the expectations are,

847
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 2: you'd have to pivot. Or you better find someone that's

848
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: only looking for that system and it fits. You know,

849
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: what is the system trying to score a bunch of

850
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: damn points and don't turn it over? That's really what

851
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: the system ought to be. And who do you have

852
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: that gives you that to do that. Now, I can

853
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: never do something that I don't know, but I do

854
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: think that you're always trying to find any way to score.

855
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: And it does start with having great players. I don't

856
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: put myself above anybody like I. Still you're going to

857
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 2: struggle if you don't have really good players. I've been there,

858
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: and then you don't want to call it. Then it's

859
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: no fun to call it. Okay, so you want good players,

860
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: let's start with that. But after that, why do you

861
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: how do you get the most out of what you have?

862
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: That's really what you're trying to do. Yeah, and that's

863
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: that's what we're paid to do.

864
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 3: You have two good players in particularly at wide receiver,

865
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: and the receiver group isn't a really is it a

866
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: really good spot? Say Flowers just went to the Pro Bowl,

867
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: first Pro Bowl receiver in franchise. Sister Rashad Batman gets

868
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: the contract extension last year and then has the best

869
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: season of his career. This receiver group is in a

870
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: really good spot going into the off season. How good

871
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: do you feel? I guess about the receiver group and

872
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: what is your outlook on that position? And then of

873
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: course you got some free agents and young players. But

874
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: what's your outlook on the receiver position.

875
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 2: Well, I'm so happy for shod you know, he stayed

876
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: relatively healthy. Same in the off season. You know, we

877
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: didn't have Odell, so he's able to study healthy. We

878
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: didn't have another receiver, you know. I think you'd have

879
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: to talk to a shot on this. But and then

880
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: to have the work that he puts in show up

881
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: in terms of targets, in terms of getting in the

882
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: end zone, staying healthy, because that's work you have to

883
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: put in for your body. And then you know, when

884
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: Zay went down, we're trying to move him around, And

885
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: I think that builds a player's confidence, like, hey, now

886
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: we're going to move you around, like hey, the on

887
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: a son. You to learn where to get not learn,

888
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: but make sure we're set because we'll struggle if we don't.

889
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: I think that comes with any relationship. I think that

890
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: takes time, you know, for him to trust that we're

891
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: we believe in you as a player, we believe in

892
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: your skill set, we believe in you're going to stay healthy,

893
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: that you're a big part of what we do. And

894
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: so I'm happy for him. Zay is you know Zay's

895
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: just a tremendous player, like he just and he comes

896
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: in the building every day with a smile on his face,

897
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: and he's fun to beat around, and he's you know,

898
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: he practice is hard and you know he's like I said,

899
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: he's just what you want in a wide out and

900
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: he allows you to coach him hard and he you know,

901
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: now he wants the ball. I get it, Like I'm

902
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: a skill coach, Like that's what I do, Like I

903
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: like to throw it. They hired me because I like

904
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: to throw it. Okay, but I know you can't control

905
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: the game if you can't run it. But when you

906
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: have so many skill players, like you got to understand

907
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: it still's only one ball, like he I don't always

908
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: control that, and our guys have done a great job

909
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 2: with that, Like how do you balance that? And that's

910
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 2: gonna be even harder this year because they great year.

911
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: I mean Bateman best year as a pro, Say Flowers

912
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: best year as a pro, mark all those touchdown catches,

913
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: say likely we can even get more involve Tarrick Henry,

914
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 2: I mean Lamar Jackson like gets It's awesome to think

915
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 2: of all that, but one of the first things we're

916
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: enough to tell them, guys just understand, like that means

917
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: we should be really good on offense, but it's gonna

918
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: be difficult. And I want every guy to touch the

919
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 2: ball a lot. I'm I'm for you, but I'm also

920
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: the most important things that we score and we win.

921
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: Like sorry, there's nothing in my contract that says I

922
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: get more money for touches or touchdowns. If it did,

923
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: I would go towards that, like if I got it,

924
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: If I got I get there and say, I mean

925
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: I get it. If I get an extra one hundred

926
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for every touchdown pass, we'd never run it.

927
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: I mean we just wouldn't. I get it, just like them,

928
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: I get it. They get paid based on their skill set.

929
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: But I'm paid to score points and for us to

930
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: win and do everything in our power to under the

931
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: guidance of John Harbaugh and har organization, that what gives

932
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: the best chance to win, and that includes getting those

933
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: guys the ball, but not specifically just because I'm getting

934
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: them the ball, if that makes sense. But they're awesome

935
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: that way. Our guys are awesome that way in terms

936
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: of handling that because it's not easy and in the

937
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 2: world we live in fantasy, you know, and we live

938
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: in in terms of just you know, their self worth

939
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: of touching the ball like an old lineman. They don't

940
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: look at it. I only pulled three times this week,

941
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: but I think that that doesn't matter to them, you know.

942
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: But to skill guys touching the ball, scoring all those things,

943
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: it is who they are. It's who they are, it's

944
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: who they're known and what they get paid for. So

945
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: I our guys were great, They're awesome, and we've we've

946
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: drafted and developed the right kind of guys that allows

947
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: us to still be that way, you know, and and

948
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: again try to do the best we can to put

949
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: the ball in the ends one as often as we can.

950
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: Is that the most difficult portion of the like people

951
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: aspect of your job, right, Like there's the scheme and

952
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: the all the game planning and all that spart but

953
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: just with dealing with people is like balancing that equation

954
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: of keeping everybody happy when you have as many playmakers

955
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: as you have, and and what have you learned in

956
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: that regard over your years of coaching, Well.

957
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, Well I shouldn't go one hundred percent.

958
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that that's the hardest part. It's just

959
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: part of it. Yeah. I was in Jacksonville a few

960
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: years ago and I was coaching white outs. We played

961
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: the Colts and we won the game. Oh, we lost

962
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: the game, but one of the whiteouts I had and

963
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm not getting gets physically who the people were what,

964
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: but one of our whiteouts had you know, seven catches

965
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: one hundred something yards, touchdown or two and we lost. Well,

966
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: you're going to grade your guys after the game. Well there,

967
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: we got together with personnel and the owner and we

968
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: talked about it and I said, you know, this player,

969
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: you know, had his best game as a pro, blah

970
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: blah blah, you know whatever. And one of the I

971
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: can't I think he was a general manager said well,

972
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know if this young man is

973
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 2: really a team player, because after the game he didn't

974
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: seem too upset that we lost. And in my heart

975
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: of hearts, I'm sitting there going, you know, if that

976
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: player has seven catches one hundred and fifty yards two

977
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: touchdowns every game and we lose every game, he's a

978
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: multi millionaire and a first ballot Hall of Famer. If

979
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: we win every game and he catches two balls for

980
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: fifteen yards and no touchdowns. He's making the league minimum

981
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: and he's out of the league with the Sharkers. It's

982
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: part of what we do. Basketball Players want shots, Baseball

983
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: players wanted bats. Skilled players want the ball, and so

984
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: you have to understand that, and I do, and you

985
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: hope that they understand what you have to do. But

986
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: I want guys that want the ball. I'd be disappointed

987
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: if they didn't, if they didn't want opportunities, I would

988
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: feel less of them. And yet you can't say, well,

989
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: I don't want as many players because they're going to

990
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 2: all want the ball. No, I'd rather manage. I'd rather

991
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: try to manage a lot of really good players that

992
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: are all capable of really helping us win and move

993
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: it and being explosive and try to manage their touches

994
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: than not having enough going. God, I wish we had

995
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: some more guys that could touch the ball, but you

996
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: do have to weigh that.

997
00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: You know.

998
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: Last one that I have for you is the clips

999
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: of you in the booth on game day. These sometimes

1000
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: go viral. I mean, you're an emotional guy in the booth.

1001
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: You bring the energy in the booth.

1002
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: So what do you what do you or your.

1003
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 3: Family members, your wife think when they see the clips

1004
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 3: of you in the booth kind of blow up. What's

1005
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 3: the reaction when they see all that stuff on social media?

1006
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: She doesn't say anything. Okay, well let's say about her.

1007
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: She doesn't. She's used to it now.

1008
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think of it when you

1009
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 3: see the clip back of the game you.

1010
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: I don't know what she actually thinks of this. There's

1011
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: probably a lot of I mean, I don't know. I mean,

1012
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: like anything that you do. I'll just say it this way,

1013
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 2: like I'm no different than as a human being than

1014
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 2: anybody in this building or on this planet. Like that's

1015
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: how she sees me. She finds it funny just that

1016
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: someone would actually want my autographer, that they would want

1017
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: to say hi to me, Like she's just I mean

1018
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: that idiot, you know like that guys, you know, so

1019
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: like to her, it's almost comical to begin with like that,

1020
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: like because there are two sides to everybody, the well

1021
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: you have to be at the job and what you do,

1022
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: and that you try to be as a husband or

1023
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: a father or human being a person, right like you know,

1024
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: like yeah, people send me the clips or then they

1025
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 2: say something about like whatever. But I do get excited,

1026
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: I do get emotional, I do get frustrated. I have

1027
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: to forget the cameras there. I don't know that it's there.

1028
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: I'd prefer it's not there. I don't it's not my decision.

1029
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: If my water bottles in front of them, they send

1030
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: like a message to move your water bottling. All right, fine,

1031
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Like I don't decide that. Yeah, no, so yeah, do

1032
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: I think that if you know the camera's on you,

1033
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: that you'd like to be a little bit more calm

1034
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: or John has to do that because it's always he

1035
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: never like that's that's different. That's and I know I

1036
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: am too, but it's like, you know, it's like he

1037
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: does a much better job being composed, and I do.

1038
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying in general, like it's you know,

1039
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: you're much more tied to it, like to the play

1040
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: or the execution of it or why and.

1041
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: So to see like it's fun, it's funlaining about the game.

1042
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: I know, I know you weren't complaining. I didn't mean

1043
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: it like that. It's just it just it is what

1044
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: it is, and that you're just anything that you're emotionally

1045
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: tied to. I think if a camera is on you.

1046
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 2: That's the way it is. A fan watching the game

1047
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: and if they had the camera on them, then chose it.

1048
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: You would find certain things like that, or if your

1049
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: kid was playing a baseball game and you're sitting there

1050
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: as a dad and you're dealing with that part of it,

1051
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: or anytime that there's something you your name's on it,

1052
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: or something that you irresponsible for, you know you're gonna

1053
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: get emotional within the moment of how you like to

1054
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: see it. And because it's immediate, that makes sense and

1055
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: it's right now. You know, it's not if I own

1056
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: a sandwich shop, I have one hundred of them, you know,

1057
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: on High five when we sold Italian subday, you know,

1058
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: like but if you only sold one or two, maybe

1059
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: be more excited. Like it's just a matter of like

1060
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: this is now, Like there is no carryover, Like it's

1061
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: got to happen now this moment, that play, this execution

1062
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: good or bad, you know, and you try to stay

1063
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: as even keeled as you can to get to the

1064
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: next play. And you're better when you can stay in

1065
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: that in that mindset like Eric has to do in

1066
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: the draft. You know that part of it when it

1067
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: comes up, make a call pick, do all the work before,

1068
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: and try to stay as calm as you can in

1069
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: the moment and make an educated decision who you're gonna

1070
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: take or what play you're gonna call, and then live

1071
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: with it. But you try to do the work and

1072
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: as best you can. And then and then letter if

1073
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: I get more frustrated, which we should get frustrated, is

1074
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: when it falls directly on me, and they all fall

1075
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: directly on me. But we're gonna have eleven on the field.

1076
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: We're not gonna have ten or twelve. We're gonna fight

1077
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: like hell to where Lamar's doesn't have anxiety the line

1078
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: of scrimmage like where he's We're not up against it,

1079
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: trying to waste time outs like that's on me. That's

1080
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: on our structure, our organization, substitution, All those things directly

1081
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: situational football, not getting the call and calling it wrong

1082
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: or the wrong personnel, those are things that directly those

1083
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: affect me more than anything. Yeah, do I want a

1084
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: perfect play, do I want whatever? There is a human

1085
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: element that comes into it. But the things that are

1086
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: directly tied to the things that are structurally that you've

1087
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: got to make sure you're elite at that because you

1088
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: want if we ran power every play of every game,

1089
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: at least trust and it looked like you want to

1090
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 2: look like you may never win a game, but you

1091
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: would at least look like you want it to look

1092
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: like like you want it to look like you want

1093
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: it to look like. Or to line up emotions to

1094
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: shift things. I had to line of scrimmage or cadence

1095
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: those things, because when you're jumping off sides, when you're penalized,

1096
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: when you're doing those things as we were earlier in

1097
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: the air, it's a bad look as bad as the

1098
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. It's all bad. But that's really bad. So

1099
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: that's that's the first and foremost part of it is

1100
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 2: how do we structurally get it to where it looks

1101
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: like you want it to look like.

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00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm curious to go inside the head of a play

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00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: caller and when you call a play, how often do

1104
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, yeah, like that one's gonna hit,

1105
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: And how often do you like when it gives out

1106
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: of your mouth? I feel like I want to change

1107
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: that one immediately, but I can't.

1108
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 2: It's too late.

1109
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't have any time. But you know what I mean, Like,

1110
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: take me into that.

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: It happens all the above. I can't tell you how often,

1112
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: but there's times like you've called a certain play for

1113
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: a certain look, and I may even say in the headset,

1114
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: this one's got a shot. I mean, this one's got

1115
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: a real shot, Like it's exactly what we want. Now

1116
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: we'll just see if we execute, because you might have

1117
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: a shot playing you get beat on the protection. It's

1118
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: human error, like, that's no guarantee you get the exact look.

1119
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: Those are the ones you try to avoid that are

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Speaker 2: almost awey almost. Yeah, when you have a lot of

1121
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: almost you're pretty average on offense. God, if we just

1122
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 2: would have done this and this, we're almost. So you

1123
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: try to eliminate the almost. And there's others that are

1124
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: just like that. Man, this isn't this isn't good. You

1125
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: didn't notice a personnel change defensively, you didn't have like

1126
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: I didn't notice that certain receivers out like a quick

1127
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: screen to say, flowers a lot better than Todd Monkin

1128
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: if he has to be out there. I mean, but

1129
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: you didn't notice it. And also like well might not

1130
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: get aid. But you're those things do come up, and

1131
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: those are also things you try to shrink to have

1132
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: your best players out there, to have the best call possible,

1133
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: to have the right time at the line of scrimmage,

1134
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: all those things that give you the best chance, optimal

1135
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: chance to be successful. And you're never going to be perfect.

1136
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: You just shrink the margin for air, like you're doing

1137
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: in the draft, like you're doing everything when you're picking

1138
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: your partner. You just shrink the margin forrer. You don't

1139
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: know what you don always know, you don't, you don't,

1140
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: you just but you are trying to do that. They

1141
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: shrink the margin frer. That's all the prep work, all

1142
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: the preper just trying to shrink that as best you can.

1143
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: And then the more you do that, then you will

1144
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 2: have more plays. And if you have good again, all

1145
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: starts good players, but then the rest of it it'll

1146
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: look like you want it to look like, because there's

1147
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 2: other times like man that wasn't very smart. Yeah, and

1148
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 2: that still happens. It will happen this year, Yeah, it'll

1149
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: happen every year that you're doing it.

1150
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: Last question for me. I know that you like to

1151
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: find plays anywhere, anywhere and everywhere. You're always on the

1152
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: hunt for a play. So in the off season, you

1153
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: know when you're not going to the combine or you're

1154
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: not doing this or that before practice start, Like am

1155
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: I just imagining you? You're on X or you're on

1156
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: YouTube and you're just like you're finding stuff everywhere.

1157
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say so much on We get all the

1158
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: video of all the teams, so it's much more on

1159
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: our own teams. We study, like you like.

1160
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: Really creative outside the box, kind of like tea.

1161
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: You want to study, Yeah, you know, whether it's this year.

1162
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: I always take at least two teams. But so that

1163
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: part's a little overrated. The fact that, like in the

1164
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: off season, you can't break down everybody. You just do

1165
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: it's a race against twenty four hours. It's twenty four

1166
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: hours in the day, Like you can't get to everybody.

1167
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: But you give projects for other coaches like look at

1168
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: this team and third down, look at trick, whatever it is,

1169
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: whatever you're looking for. I'll break down two teams and

1170
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: look at like I did to last year, and that

1171
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: benefit is great that I'll look at to again. But

1172
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: every week when we're getting ready for an opponent, I'm

1173
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: watching other team's offense, like you're watching how teams are

1174
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: attacking them. It's like every week like it's not like

1175
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: it's very rarely like because you're watching, well, that's good stuff.

1176
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: I like that. How are they doing that? And then

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01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: it resonates in your mind and you do see it

1178
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: on social media. You're not on and a ton, but

1179
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: there is stuff that shows up there and you do

1180
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: get to her like, man, that's really good stuff. Why

1181
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: aren't we doing that?

1182
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: You know?

1183
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: Why are we doing that? It's the same in everything again.

1184
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: Now I'm back to that comparison thing, you know, because

1185
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: it's the same no matter what we do. You know,

1186
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: why aren't I and I God have shaped I don't

1187
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 2: have that nice house, Why don't I have the way

1188
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: I want to look that way or whatever that might

1189
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: be that work. I don't have that nice car. I

1190
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: do the same thing and play like yeah, dang, it's

1191
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: pretty sweet, you know, and then you feel like, god,

1192
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm missing what am I?

1193
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: You know what?

1194
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: Why aren't I as good as that?

1195
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 3: You know?

1196
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: And yet then people tell you we watch your stuff

1197
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: all the time. Then it makes you feel good, you know,

1198
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: watching us, so that that that's part of it, but

1199
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: and that what we're supposed to do, Like like am

1200
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: I not supposed to look at that? And say, well,

1201
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: that's really good. That could make us better. Like how

1202
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: many times when I'm trying to fix something around the house,

1203
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: which I do very little now someone else. But if

1204
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I look it up on the internet,

1205
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: right of course, and I look at the YouTube.

1206
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, videos, yep, so what we do?

1207
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool. They're doing it this way, like

1208
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: why isn't that neat? Or video of a play? But

1209
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: then you're talking to someone how do you install? How

1210
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: do you how do you do this? How do you

1211
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: do this? And then you take that information and then

1212
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: you try to you make it your own ideas to

1213
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: the perfect idea and you just kind of make it

1214
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: your own or a different way of doing the same concept.

1215
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 2: You do that every week in a game plan, let alone,

1216
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: what you're looking at? Individual coaches ought to be doing that,

1217
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 2: not doing the same drills they've been doing for ten years, right,

1218
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: they should be looking at route God route. You know

1219
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: they all have names, every guy that teaches route running

1220
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: on there. You know, they ought to be like a

1221
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: route God, route King, King Route. They all got their

1222
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: own little nickname. Well, how are they doing it right?

1223
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if I use everything to look at

1224
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 2: some of it.

1225
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: Your social media feed is like inspirational, the football quotes

1226
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 3: and these crazy plays like that, and drills and drilled.

1227
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: Well, now we've gotten some Sage life advice, some social

1228
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: media advice. Yeah, we've gone down all in the past.

1229
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: This has really been a treatment. Thank you.

1230
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: You bet guys, this is great man. You bet you're

1231
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: listening to the Lage Podcast. We're coming to you from

1232
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 3: the Sea Geek Studio. We also want to mention our

1233
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: partners at Draft Kings Sportsbook. They are an official sports

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01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: betting partner of the Baltimore or even Draft King Sportsbook.

1235
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 3: The Crown is yours. Well, we got the place sheets

1236
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: here to close things out.

1237
01:05:58,960 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we follow the script.

1238
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: Yes, this is our fifteen place script deviated a little

1239
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: bit from the call sheets. Circumstances you never know what

1240
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: roads you're going to go down with Todd, so we

1241
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: had the DVA from the script. But good stuff.

1242
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1243
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the conversation. As always, he's great and

1244
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: he's a great coach.

1245
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 3: I love his perspective. I think he's got Obviously he's

1246
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 3: coaching this offense at such a high level, and I

1247
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 3: think there's no reason to think this offense can't be

1248
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 3: right back to where they were this year. I think

1249
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: that they're just going to keep ascending. And he's the

1250
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 3: guy you want to have leading that seering that shit.

1251
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is I always tell Ravens fans,

1252
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: as you mentioned during the interview, you know, I've watched

1253
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: a lot of Ravens football over my career and appreciate

1254
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: what we have here. It had for a long time,

1255
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: Ravens fans, that it hasn't always been like this, and

1256
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: we got the best player in the world and Lamar Jackson.

1257
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: We have an awesome old coordinator and Todd Munkin, who's

1258
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: directing number one offense in the league.

1259
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: Times are good.

1260
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: Enjoy it, Ravens fans, and just like we enjoyed that conversation.

1261
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 3: Awesome. Well, thank you so much for listening or watching,

1262
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 3: and we will be back with you again soon