Speaker 1: I were back another week with I think one of
Speaker 1: my favorite teammates I'd ever played with. Funny guy, great
Speaker 1: in the locker room, great on the field, the best
Speaker 1: pass Russian football, Chandler Jones. I'll let you answer that.
Speaker 1: What's going on, man, I'm I'm doing good, man, I'm
Speaker 1: glad to talk to you. I was just telling the
Speaker 1: producers back here, I said, I was just getting ready
Speaker 1: to head to bed, and uh, they said Logan wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to me. So I called out of bed
Speaker 1: to come hiller to So what's up? Let me tell
Speaker 1: you know what, would Devin mccordy tell you, man, we
Speaker 1: don't take naps, man, That is true, and he would
Speaker 1: tell me to shave my head as well if you
Speaker 1: were kid the hairline check. No, how you been, man,
Speaker 1: You've been killing it out a z. I haven't been
Speaker 1: able to play with you in a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Has been has been a journey, honestly, but Arizona has
Speaker 1: been has been tremendous. Even with this season. It didn't
Speaker 1: end how we wanted to to, obviously, but we definitely
Speaker 1: were headed in the right direction and we had tim
Speaker 1: plus wins and and hopefully you know whoever I'm playing
Speaker 1: for the next year. We can build on that. And
Speaker 1: that's the question. I mean, you're the guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're going into Fredency. So you've been traded, you
Speaker 1: got an ascension. This is your first time hand Fredency.
Speaker 1: That's so funny that you said that, because I was
Speaker 1: just on the bus with a few other guys and uh,
Speaker 1: you know they're asking me about you know, what are
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do next season? And you know,
Speaker 1: I said, there's a lot of different things that I
Speaker 1: have to think about with with me, for my personal
Speaker 1: with myself, and this is a time where I could,
Speaker 1: you know, really focus on myself and what what fits
Speaker 1: for me, you know, being a free agent. Uh, in
Speaker 1: my ten of eleven years of playing football, I've never
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to, uh to pick what scheme I
Speaker 1: wanted to be in or what kind of defense. You know,
Speaker 1: I've always been handed to, you know, not complaining, but
Speaker 1: you know I was drafting to the Patriots, and then
Speaker 1: I was traded to the Arizona Cardinals. And you know,
Speaker 1: while I was in the Cardinals, I had about three
Speaker 1: different defensive coordinators, a lot of different defensive coaches, and
Speaker 1: I never had the opportunity to actually say, hey, this
Speaker 1: is what I want to do. I've always been handed.
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be very interesting for me because
Speaker 1: I get to pick what scheme I'm gonna be in,
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know that's one thing that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a huge thing of my decision or what I
Speaker 1: want to do, is you know what I what I
Speaker 1: would like to do if I would want to rush
Speaker 1: the pass or dropping coverage or whatever we want to do. So, um,
Speaker 1: it's exciting for me. And uh, this is a great
Speaker 1: position to be in. And I wouldn't want it to
Speaker 1: be any other way, right, I mean you look at me.
Speaker 1: Look we came in young players, your draft the year
Speaker 1: before me. We kind of grew up together. You're somebody
Speaker 1: who's won a Super Bowl. You're somebody's who's been the
Speaker 1: highest paid player in football or defensive player in football
Speaker 1: at the time. You set the market. Um, now you
Speaker 1: go to freidency and you're talking about schemes. So you know,
Speaker 1: some players have made good money in their career and
Speaker 1: I've set the market, and they say, at this age,
Speaker 1: I care about winning. I care about championships, and so
Speaker 1: I care about Some players have one championships on their
Speaker 1: career and say, hey, I gotta care of my family.
Speaker 1: So where do you rank it. I think when you're
Speaker 1: going to fred this, you gotta figure out what's gonna
Speaker 1: make you happy. And it seems like you're talking a
Speaker 1: lot about schemes. So how does that list work for
Speaker 1: you in terms of money, scheme and obviously the ability
Speaker 1: to play in championships because you're fortunate to check a
Speaker 1: lot off right right. And you know, that's funny that
Speaker 1: you pointed out that I said scheme, because to be
Speaker 1: completely honest with you, Logan and I'm telling you this
Speaker 1: being my friend, it's not about money at all, Like
Speaker 1: you said, where I am in my career. I've gotten
Speaker 1: the contracts, I've gotten the super Bowl, But but I
Speaker 1: think scheme is huge or or for me, it's winning
Speaker 1: more championships. Like I'll say it again, it's not about money.
Speaker 1: I will say. I will want to go to a
Speaker 1: place that maximizes my talents, I would say. You know,
Speaker 1: I I say, in my career, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of times that I caught myself out of position, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's I I do take the blame, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, Hey, should I have been
Speaker 1: doing that? And uh? And I think I have enough
Speaker 1: comfort where I am in my career at this age
Speaker 1: to say that. Um So, I think when it comes
Speaker 1: to my decision, where where does Chandler Jones become Challenge Jones?
Speaker 1: Where could he make smizes his challenge? I mean, I
Speaker 1: think there's a few times you see it this season
Speaker 1: where you're like, what who is this guy? We won
Speaker 1: five sex against your old team? Right? I know you
Speaker 1: hear like if I was, like, he's laughing about it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I know, I'm pretty sure you'll see flashes of it,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure there's period of times when people
Speaker 1: might say, oh, why is it disappearing? Where is this going?
Speaker 1: Not to put it on just a game plan, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of different things that goes into it,
Speaker 1: but I think going into free agency, I'll say this again,
Speaker 1: what team maximizes Chandler Jones talents? Well, look, I know
Speaker 1: a team you know, I'm your friend. I know a
Speaker 1: team that has a decordinator, you know, and Pat Graham
Speaker 1: has a new head coach, you know, and Dable he's recruiting.
Speaker 1: He's just kind of big, has a big market place
Speaker 1: might need some help on the pastor us, so I'm
Speaker 1: sure I'll be in your ear. But for the New
Speaker 1: York fans as listen to this, if I don't pitch
Speaker 1: to get Chandler Jones in New York, got to do
Speaker 1: my job. He's been. For the New York fans that
Speaker 1: are listening, he's been doing this not just on camera
Speaker 1: on Twitter, actually going to his trainer through and shout
Speaker 1: out to Brett Fisher, the guy I've been going to
Speaker 1: for all my rehabs in my career. He went to
Speaker 1: his Combine gym, and I wouldn't be here going to
Speaker 1: my tenth year and have any of the success I
Speaker 1: have without Brett Fisher out there in Arizona, who Chandler
Speaker 1: now trains with and has done great things. He's helped
Speaker 1: a lot of players behind the scenes. There's just so
Speaker 1: many people that go into our um to go into
Speaker 1: people's careers that you need to thank. And Chandler will
Speaker 1: be thanking them when he gets his Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: speech one day, because he has a hunter plus stacks.
Speaker 1: So tell me, tell me the art of pass rushing. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, as as as a fan of football,
Speaker 1: what do you think about because I think you know,
Speaker 1: I know you, and I know how you walk around
Speaker 1: the locker room and make everyone do one on one
Speaker 1: pass rushing with you and always joking about it. But
Speaker 1: it's all you think about. To tell me what goes
Speaker 1: into that week and getting a seconds that tackle? What?
Speaker 1: How do you break it down for the viewer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I sleep dream pass rush and as Logan said, any
Speaker 1: opportunity that I get, it's a mental RiPP it's to
Speaker 1: walk through. I'm always trying to go through pass rush.
Speaker 1: But I think, honestly, I think I've mastered it. And
Speaker 1: not trying to be arrogant, but I just I think
Speaker 1: they say you have to do something a hundred or
Speaker 1: ten thousand times and you're becoming a master or whatever
Speaker 1: that quote goes. I've I've mastered it. I think I
Speaker 1: think there's time, there's different there's a lot of different
Speaker 1: components into actually getting a sack. The biggest part of
Speaker 1: pass rush is actually setting the guy up, no matter
Speaker 1: who you're going against, and I think I'm a huge
Speaker 1: believer or not rushing the name, but rushing the body.
Speaker 1: You can say you're going against Trent Williams Andrew Wentworth
Speaker 1: Taylor Luan. I don't go against a name. I don't
Speaker 1: really know who I'm wanting is. I don't really care for.
Speaker 1: I think there's guys that have longer arms or different
Speaker 1: sets than the others. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think it's all the same. It's all about setting
Speaker 1: a guy up and actually catching him on his off
Speaker 1: foot when it comes to power. But those are whole
Speaker 1: different things. But I think I've definitely mastered pass Russian.
Speaker 1: I love doing it. I think I could still do
Speaker 1: it for a long period of time. Now, who is
Speaker 1: your um? Because you said it's not about name, it's
Speaker 1: about bodies. Who plays the position that the tackle position?
Speaker 1: You know, who's the best player? Who who who's really
Speaker 1: good with their skills and not maybe the biggest name
Speaker 1: or or whatnot. I'm always impressed by a guy like
Speaker 1: David bat Who's he doesn't even watch the pastor he
Speaker 1: watches the ball and gets to his set. And then
Speaker 1: so I'm going against Chandler Jones at the end and
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna look at him. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: to my spot. That's how confident or or how his
Speaker 1: process work. I always thought that was interesting. You know
Speaker 1: to see how he goes And so who are some
Speaker 1: guys as you think, are really do it the right
Speaker 1: way and really tough at what they do. I'll say too,
Speaker 1: And one of the guys is one of the guys
Speaker 1: I was going against every day in practice. He's here
Speaker 1: at the probo DJ Humphries. He's a guy that I
Speaker 1: think he's definitely came a long way. He's actually understanding
Speaker 1: the position of offensive tackle posted just out talenting and
Speaker 1: out musclim people. Um, he understands that there's a lot
Speaker 1: more to it than just you know, the physical game.
Speaker 1: And of course Trent Williams and you know, of course
Speaker 1: he's an All Pro player, But to actually go against
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, I'm I'm speaking to the guy that actually
Speaker 1: has gone against him. Um. A lot of people speak
Speaker 1: on ESPN and they speak on NFL films about all
Speaker 1: this guy's an animal, he's a monster, and that's what
Speaker 1: they're seeing. And I'm a player that actually gets a
Speaker 1: chance to actually lock up with this guy and tie
Speaker 1: up with him. So what they're saying times ten seriously,
Speaker 1: and uh, he's a hell of a player and he's
Speaker 1: a guy that honestly, Um, there will be times in
Speaker 1: the game where some of my moves won't be working,
Speaker 1: and I will say, hey, I'll tell the guy that
Speaker 1: plays the other side, Hey, let's switch. My moves aren't working,
Speaker 1: Let's go. And he's just he commands that kind of respect.
Speaker 1: He's a hell of a player. And and uh, Trent
Speaker 1: Williams is probably one of the one of the guys
Speaker 1: that I would want to play against the lease on
Speaker 1: an imposing team. Yeah, I know, I heard, you know
Speaker 1: when when Kiddles saying that Trent Williams best player in
Speaker 1: football and you see his feet, you know, I think
Speaker 1: the best football player is all about your hands and
Speaker 1: feet regards the position. His feet are silky like a
Speaker 1: corner at that size. That's just a rare, rare thing
Speaker 1: that you can't teach. Um. He's born with and he
Speaker 1: worked at and he's and he's mastered it for sure.
Speaker 1: So I see these like pass rushers, right, he always,
Speaker 1: you know, the draft hypes up pass rushers. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how you slipped to the bottom of the
Speaker 1: first round, of the middle half of the first round,
Speaker 1: or whatever, but you see these You see these pass
Speaker 1: rushers and they come in with one move, right and
Speaker 1: they come in a rookie year and can't get a sack.
Speaker 1: So when did you develop your two three? When did
Speaker 1: that come? Where you came with your counter moves? And
Speaker 1: I always relate to pass rushing as you would probably
Speaker 1: knows boxing or m m A where you need to
Speaker 1: kind of set guys up. Like you said, so when
Speaker 1: did you start coming with that? What'd you come in with?
Speaker 1: And then when did you develop the next couple? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like, obviously it's kind of obvious, but what
Speaker 1: I came with came in with two now is night
Speaker 1: and day. And I know you say I slipped to
Speaker 1: the bottom of the first round in the draft, but
Speaker 1: I only had ten career sex in college, so I
Speaker 1: think I thought I went up and I had had
Speaker 1: a third round grade. But the forty four A seven
Speaker 1: logan always has the tough trash you could ever just
Speaker 1: ask questions. I love this guy, but but honestly, I
Speaker 1: think it really clicked. I think my fourth year, my
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth year, it really clicked. And and I
Speaker 1: could say this at year ten. There's a point in
Speaker 1: time and everyone's career where it's either you love football
Speaker 1: or you don't. There's gonna be a time, and it
Speaker 1: happens in a lot of NFL careers that could happen
Speaker 1: in college. To me, I think I I think my
Speaker 1: fourth year I really studied the game, and that just
Speaker 1: shows my love for the game and not just studying
Speaker 1: the game, but also studying myself. I think I stopped
Speaker 1: kind of trying to really just out athletic people and
Speaker 1: kind of just trying to duke him out and really
Speaker 1: study steps or studying what to do at the point
Speaker 1: of contact and study length and stab swiping a certain moves.
Speaker 1: I think one day in practice, I think, goes Man Patricia,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Maddie Pete. One day in practice,
Speaker 1: Mamperatrician said, hey, run to this spot and stick your
Speaker 1: inside on arm out, And I'm like sure. I ran
Speaker 1: to the spot and stuck, and a guy fell in
Speaker 1: his butt. He fell in his he literally fell flat
Speaker 1: in his But after then, right after I started doing that,
Speaker 1: I kind of started just working with that move and
Speaker 1: doing different things off of it. Run to the spot,
Speaker 1: stick my arm out and swape, stick my arm out
Speaker 1: and spin, and that was always the counter. So to
Speaker 1: this day, I literally kind of just kind of just
Speaker 1: still run to that spot and stick my arm out,
Speaker 1: and it's been working a lot for me. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of something where I saw Kyrie Irving and they're
Speaker 1: showing his handles and like, all right, Kyle Irving is
Speaker 1: one of the best ball handlers in basketball, like put
Speaker 1: them up with any debate, and he's got it and
Speaker 1: he's doing all this stuff, and he's like, I really
Speaker 1: only do the same three or four moves. I only
Speaker 1: practice the same there or four dribbles. Is just I
Speaker 1: know how to relate over how I combine them is
Speaker 1: what merely makes it looks crazy or how to maenipulate
Speaker 1: your defender. But he didn't go out there and practice
Speaker 1: nineties seven different basketball dribbles in and one mixtape stuff.
Speaker 1: He's doing his same three or four fundamental moves he
Speaker 1: just does. He's mastered how to layer him up right,
Speaker 1: and then everything off of that is is either reactionary
Speaker 1: or instinctual and per se. So yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's the same as a thing. So I know some
Speaker 1: of this has to has to come some of your
Speaker 1: training or some of how you you know, understand spatial
Speaker 1: awareness has to come from your brother. Obviously, John Jones,
Speaker 1: and you both your brothers art. So what was that
Speaker 1: like growing up with another brother in the NFL and
Speaker 1: other brothers the baddest man on the planet. Um so,
Speaker 1: so how was that from childhood to where you are
Speaker 1: now in that bond. Yeah, Well, being the youngest, I
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to actually learn a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of you learn from mistakes in from the success.
Speaker 1: You know, I see my older brother do something and
Speaker 1: have success with it, I'm gonna do it, and and
Speaker 1: vice versa. It's not working for him. Well even with
Speaker 1: even to be example, leaving early for the NFL draft,
Speaker 1: you know, my brother had the opportunity to leave and
Speaker 1: he didn't and I saw that, and he actually got
Speaker 1: injured and fail lower in the draft. I had the
Speaker 1: opportunity to leave and I actually saw that, and that
Speaker 1: was opportunity. I said, hey, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go because I don't want to go back to school
Speaker 1: and have the same thing happened to me my brother.
Speaker 1: So there was a small example. But even growing up,
Speaker 1: it was very competitive. We always compete who can run
Speaker 1: to the frigerator of the fastest, who could eat their
Speaker 1: bola possitive the fastest. Everything was a competition, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what credit to a lot of our success today,
Speaker 1: just just being competitive, that competitive nature. I remember, so
Speaker 1: you know, you're at the Pro Bowl, You've been to
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, you've been a Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: remember after we won our first Super Bowl together in Arizona,
Speaker 1: or at the afterpart and have whisk Leith and all
Speaker 1: that there, And I didn't realize how big the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl is until you're not in it, right, because when
Speaker 1: you're in it, it's just when you're a f C
Speaker 1: Championships blah blah blah blah blah, NFC Championships, it's just bubble.
Speaker 1: You don't even really know. You got your year in
Speaker 1: the season. And then you go and then like all
Speaker 1: right and limit all distractions, and you go and you
Speaker 1: play the game the games where we know, the pace
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl is a little slower with the
Speaker 1: commercials and the halftime, but do what you do, right,
Speaker 1: that's just what we know. And then you win the game.
Speaker 1: You're like altists, we're gonna turn up. And then at
Speaker 1: the after party, I see your brother, I think he
Speaker 1: had triple H. And I grew up a wrestling fan,
Speaker 1: and you start to see some of the musicians there
Speaker 1: and you're like and they're dapping you up. You're like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm taking shots for Triple H. I'm like, damn, this
Speaker 1: is a big deal. Like I'm twenty three years old,
Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl taking shots with John Jones,
Speaker 1: and you remember that that was real? Remember that, I
Speaker 1: was saying into So even though that was my brother,
Speaker 1: everybody else in that room, I was just like, even
Speaker 1: Rick Ross was that back there. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember that. Yeah, that was a good time. That
Speaker 1: was really a good time. So these guys that since
Speaker 1: you man, I'm really like, you know, I'm really happy
Speaker 1: for you know, these you know, some teams go all
Speaker 1: the time, but to see different teams go and see
Speaker 1: those guys experience them. I mean, those guys go entire
Speaker 1: career without Super Bowl Me and you can talk about
Speaker 1: the memories of that season and and and you know,
Speaker 1: just like like it's nothing to us. It's and you
Speaker 1: win it, and then the next year you just move on,
Speaker 1: Like it's like the rings in a safe and you
Speaker 1: just move on. You don't go around talking on the
Speaker 1: super every day. So the realities of life, it keeps
Speaker 1: it moving. It is your is your ringing a safe
Speaker 1: where you gotta replica somewhere? What you got going on?
Speaker 1: My rings in a safe? Saying I got a replica
Speaker 1: sitting in my little shrine at home though, but everyone yeah,
Speaker 1: ring replica, but people pick it up and I tell
Speaker 1: him like, it's the real thing, but it's not the
Speaker 1: real ring. You just gave it away. I got a
Speaker 1: trophy replica. I got my trophy. I got a ring replica.
Speaker 1: I didn't do that right away. I didn't get the trophies.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm not paying. I was like,
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I wanted the trophy, Like I don't
Speaker 1: you know only you know only the team gets to
Speaker 1: get the Lombardi right. So Den mccorey is like, man,
Speaker 1: go get you a replica because one day you're gonna
Speaker 1: do charity events. You're gonna be podcasts going in your
Speaker 1: office behind your people. Don't have it. So when I
Speaker 1: wanted the second one a couple of years later, I
Speaker 1: was like, can you make the first one too? So
Speaker 1: you got them, but what they are I don't see
Speaker 1: him down both in this house, man, I got I
Speaker 1: got a multiple homes and this logan Ryan Fellers from
Speaker 1: my I took this guy into my wing and now
Speaker 1: he's talking about something not in this house. This is
Speaker 1: crazy to me. So I'm proud of you. I want
Speaker 1: to give this guy a hug. Listen, man, I see
Speaker 1: these stats come out man every year, the most most
Speaker 1: sacks since blah blah blah, the most blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, Aaron Donald, t j whoever. You know, Uh,
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn, You're always at the top of these lists.
Speaker 1: But I feel like you're slept on. Tell me, do
Speaker 1: you feel underrated or or you're not slept on? But
Speaker 1: you're not Defensive Player of the Year every year, but
Speaker 1: you're you're having more sacks and these guys every year.
Speaker 1: To me, to be completely honest with you, when we
Speaker 1: were teammates, I think I would I would have felt
Speaker 1: like I was underrated for sure earlier in my career
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, you know, I got these numbers
Speaker 1: I got. But you know, when you when you have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to win the Super Bowl and uh and
Speaker 1: to actually get a contract where you don't have to
Speaker 1: work anymore after football, you know, of course I want.
Speaker 1: There's other goals that I want, you know, there's I
Speaker 1: never want Defensive Player of the Year, all these all
Speaker 1: these things, I don't wait too heavy on them, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, think like you're saying, these numbers
Speaker 1: don't lie at the end of the day when you
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, just like, all right, this guy
Speaker 1: don't have a Defensive Player of the Year. But these
Speaker 1: numbers are crazy. You know what, what what do you do?
Speaker 1: So I know what it is. And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: regardless of the accolades. That's just that's just how I
Speaker 1: was raised, That's how I am. So uh, it definitely
Speaker 1: drives me to play, to to to play even harder,
Speaker 1: to play even better. So that's even dangerous. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna make it look even more crazy. So I'll keep
Speaker 1: balling and the accolades and keep not coming. But Julian
Speaker 1: Jones is gonna still go get You're gonna get them sacks. Though,
Speaker 1: What was that year like in the Red Sea out
Speaker 1: there in Arizona? I mean, if it got off to
Speaker 1: a great start for y'all, obviously, like explained, but it
Speaker 1: seems like Arizona hasn't you know, Actually, you know that
Speaker 1: they won Um maybe ten years ago, and the fits
Speaker 1: and all that when they wanted to when they were
Speaker 1: out there with their Super Bowl years. So what was
Speaker 1: it like to get that back there and the kind
Speaker 1: of get that fan base going obviously with the Phoenix Suns,
Speaker 1: the whole Phoenix area. You love Arizona that I love.
Speaker 1: Arizona is nothing. There's no place like Arizona. Promise you.
Speaker 1: The fans are great. Even when I got traded there,
Speaker 1: I mean they embraced me with open arms that they
Speaker 1: were happy to have me. I mean, it was the transition.
Speaker 1: Even the players, I meant Larry Fitzgerald, Calais Campbell. So
Speaker 1: I remember my first day there, Kalaris Kembells in the
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria said hey, come sit down. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show you where you stay there, where you want to live,
Speaker 1: where you gonna he I mean, they had this committee
Speaker 1: with players that the kind of just grabbed me as
Speaker 1: soon as I got there, and and their fans and
Speaker 1: and even coach b A and even the owner that
Speaker 1: I mean everyone, everyone just they did a good job
Speaker 1: of actually making me feel welcoming at home. I actually
Speaker 1: bought a house there, only my only one house I
Speaker 1: owned one house, Like, I'm like, uh, I got Logan here,
Speaker 1: but I actually bought a house there, and uh, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's definitely a place where even after football
Speaker 1: you would want to kind of just go back there
Speaker 1: and kick it. So it was a good idea for
Speaker 1: me to get a house over there for sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a great place to train. The weather, obviously, it's great,
Speaker 1: great people out there. I've been familiar with it just
Speaker 1: for my career of spend a lot of time in
Speaker 1: the off season, and I just don't know, I think
Speaker 1: it's something great for the people that are listening and
Speaker 1: how much time we put in. So when you when
Speaker 1: you finish this Pro Bowl, um, what is your off
Speaker 1: season look like? When do you kind of start training
Speaker 1: or do you stick right in And how does it
Speaker 1: go for you at this point? Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: felt really good after this season. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know, but I had I got COVID
Speaker 1: during the season and I missed two games, and for
Speaker 1: some reason, when I came back from COVID, my body
Speaker 1: kind of took like a second win, like a recharge,
Speaker 1: and I like even going through over the year, like
Speaker 1: my body felt amazing, So usually I will take I'll
Speaker 1: take a break from working out before I kind of
Speaker 1: get into working up because I will have to recover
Speaker 1: from the bumps and bruisers for the season. But I
Speaker 1: feel like offseason chain right now, so I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go right back into it. I'm gonna go book
Speaker 1: over at x OS and and I want to go
Speaker 1: right back in the training, the pilates, the weight lifting,
Speaker 1: and and you start building back this this body for
Speaker 1: for next season. Yeah, and obviously building into fredency and
Speaker 1: and and that's gonna be exciting for you. And that
Speaker 1: possible change or possible come back. It's just I think,
Speaker 1: you know, as you know, I grew my family, right,
Speaker 1: have two kids, and I have a wife, and all
Speaker 1: these moves you talk about, it affects. It affects, uh, everybody.
Speaker 1: Like the reason why I two homes, right, I bought
Speaker 1: the house up here on from New Jersey, went back
Speaker 1: to the Giants, thought a house here, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to Florida where my home's at.
Speaker 1: And and being a warm and trained and this and that,
Speaker 1: like up my daughter first grade, that's not her best interests,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not her best interests. She's been we've
Speaker 1: been dealing with co but obviously the last two years
Speaker 1: been homeschooling the kids, and and now she has a
Speaker 1: friend group, and now she has a little girl click,
Speaker 1: and now she's in first grade. She's doing well in school,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to pull your kids out of school.
Speaker 1: Uh So, it's always things you gotta think about more
Speaker 1: than you know. When you're young and just say I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go here, I'm gonna go to Vegas, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go here, I'm gona train here, I'm gonna go try
Speaker 1: this out. It's like now, as you get older, your
Speaker 1: priorities kind of changing the sense where you make your
Speaker 1: work very true, very true, especially I think in my situation. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to say, you know, this is
Speaker 1: your free agent, free free agent year, go out there
Speaker 1: and ball out, but there's a lot of different components
Speaker 1: that goes into that. You you know, it's hard to
Speaker 1: say there's a point in time during the season where
Speaker 1: I didn't think that where am I gonna live next year? Well?
Speaker 1: Who am I going to play? For? Thinking about that
Speaker 1: when you have no kind of like a security or
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's a that mental state
Speaker 1: of football, not just playing the game, but just knowing
Speaker 1: that your family. I have a three year old, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So there's a lot to it.
Speaker 1: And like I said, this is a very exciting time
Speaker 1: for me personally. And uh, I'm glad that you know
Speaker 1: this season is over unfortunately, and then how we wanted
Speaker 1: it to but for me to walk off to feel
Speaker 1: healthy and and uh and the way I did, I
Speaker 1: can walk up with with with my chest and my
Speaker 1: chin up for sure. Now you're in a hundred sack club.
Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? To get that milestone
Speaker 1: or just that elite you know, elite pier surrounding just
Speaker 1: an elite status of a hundred plus secks. A lot
Speaker 1: of guys played this game. The durability that consistency needed
Speaker 1: obviously has to span over eight ten plus years. How
Speaker 1: does that? What does that speak to you? And what
Speaker 1: does that mean to you? It means a lot to me,
Speaker 1: honestly to get a hundred sex I know what it
Speaker 1: takes to get a hundred sex um and even the
Speaker 1: percentile people of active players right now in the NFL,
Speaker 1: everyone else that has a hundred sex in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think are all in the draft class in front
Speaker 1: of me. So I think that puts me and myself
Speaker 1: in a category awards like and I even I missed
Speaker 1: the whole season last year, So I think that puts
Speaker 1: me in the category where it's like, wow, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone else has a hundred sex or had a year
Speaker 1: or is it or two years ahead of me. But
Speaker 1: I think that that puts me on on a strong pace.
Speaker 1: And I don't like to play the pace game because
Speaker 1: you know, you set yourself up for failure. But when
Speaker 1: you sit back and you look at the numbers, when
Speaker 1: you look at my numbers, it's a good feeling to
Speaker 1: look at for sure. So one fifty end goal is it?
Speaker 1: What is the You're not putting a number on it.
Speaker 1: Only God knows. Only God knows only God. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm at one or seven
Speaker 1: and a half right now. So you know, I started
Speaker 1: this thing off by saying, you're one of the best
Speaker 1: you know, teammates I played with, and obviously in New
Speaker 1: Wing that we had a special locker room, which I
Speaker 1: think attributed to a lot of on field success, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us learned from each other
Speaker 1: how to be great pros. A lot of players in
Speaker 1: that locker room have played nine ten plus years, different organizations,
Speaker 1: Captains and different organizations, leaders and different organizations, walk to
Speaker 1: the payman of year candidates and different organizations. What do
Speaker 1: you think you learned playing under Bill Um, playing in
Speaker 1: that locker room for the first couple of years of
Speaker 1: your career that you kind of took with you just
Speaker 1: your New England days. Well, one thing, one thing I
Speaker 1: really admired about Coach Belichick is that I felt like
Speaker 1: he didn't just care about the football player part of you,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like he he made sure that
Speaker 1: you understood the importance of the people around you and
Speaker 1: not just your teammates, but you know the jenitors and uh, Bill,
Speaker 1: when we first got there, he uh he would literally
Speaker 1: put and you can you can um you know this.
Speaker 1: He will put pictures of these people up on the
Speaker 1: on the screen and these would be jenitors, these would
Speaker 1: be the people that work in the cafeteria, the nutritionists,
Speaker 1: and he would ask the rookies and the new people
Speaker 1: around the facility, who is this And he made sure
Speaker 1: the rookie you know who the jenitor was, who what
Speaker 1: was their name, where are they from? And I think
Speaker 1: doing exercises like that, it goes a long way because
Speaker 1: I carry that, I carry that to this day and
Speaker 1: think about that's all I knew, that's what was instilling,
Speaker 1: instilling to me as a rookie. But even to this day,
Speaker 1: I sit there, I talked to the genitor, I sit
Speaker 1: there and have a conversations just become from that exercise.
Speaker 1: And I'm ten years in so I'm pretty sure there's
Speaker 1: a lot of different exercises that that he did that
Speaker 1: kind of carries with you to this day, to the
Speaker 1: other teams, and it kind of spreads throughout the throughout
Speaker 1: your the organization. Yeah, I think. I think the versatility
Speaker 1: obviously moving you know, moving guys around where they want
Speaker 1: to or not, makes you learn multiple positions, learn the defense,
Speaker 1: learned the scheme from, you know, different positions. When you
Speaker 1: can teach your position to somebody else, say now do this.
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm playing for Pat Graham right now,
Speaker 1: the same New England defense and I've started all five
Speaker 1: spots in the secondary, both corners, the slot, obviously strong safety,
Speaker 1: free safety, and it's nothing you know, I've played it,
Speaker 1: but I'm able to see the game for all five spots,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's rare. But I was kind of
Speaker 1: raising that and that was my that was my edge,
Speaker 1: was my versatility. So I think moving players around challenging players.
Speaker 1: One thing I always remember is um O t A
Speaker 1: s how will be out there with no jersey number
Speaker 1: right and you had to literally say, hey, Chandler, watch
Speaker 1: the crack Blob. You know, I forgot about that. That
Speaker 1: was fifty five, you know, watch the Cracker. I had
Speaker 1: to say your name. You really had to communicate, and
Speaker 1: and that's what goes into obviously football is communication and
Speaker 1: goes into any type of team building atmosphere, whether at
Speaker 1: work what No matter what you do, you gotta know
Speaker 1: who people are and be able to communicate with them.
Speaker 1: And I also feel like that itself and made us
Speaker 1: more family oriented. And I feel like when you're on
Speaker 1: the field and you're about to go in the war
Speaker 1: with someone that you see it as your legit brother,
Speaker 1: I think you will play harder for that person. You
Speaker 1: will go to extra almost like the movie three hundred
Speaker 1: when you when they say you protected you, you hold
Speaker 1: your shows a little bit to the right, so you're
Speaker 1: not just protecting yourself but you're protecting them in next
Speaker 1: to you. It's almost like the same thing. And doing
Speaker 1: things like that where you're kind of getting to know
Speaker 1: the person more and you're calling them by their name.
Speaker 1: Ultimately it makes the team better. So you came up
Speaker 1: when you're in Arizona with that air guitar. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: felt like, did you did you do that? Like, we're
Speaker 1: on the Patriots and you did that against us? Where
Speaker 1: did that? Where did that come from? Where does that celebration? Even?
Speaker 1: Where do you think of that? That's something o them
Speaker 1: because you were trying a lot of different stuff. I was.
Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of things. I was dancing.
Speaker 1: I know a few other guys were throwing shade on
Speaker 1: my dance move, so I stopped dancing. Chest bumps. I
Speaker 1: was going up and you remember that. I've been chest
Speaker 1: bump you a few times. Even jumps after a second.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of jumping everyone on the team. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, it just came to me. I
Speaker 1: remember I was playing the Jacksonville Jaguars and I had
Speaker 1: a huge TfL in the backfield they had They ran
Speaker 1: a counter and had a tear feel, and that the
Speaker 1: way I got up. I was already under knee and
Speaker 1: it was just perfect. I just like to spinning my
Speaker 1: arm and it was a thing. And I got to
Speaker 1: sack the very next play, and I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I want to do this again. So I
Speaker 1: realized every time I did that, I started making plays.
Speaker 1: So it became almost like a superstition. And even if
Speaker 1: I made a tackle, I think, even if I do
Speaker 1: my air guitar whatever you wanna call it, to spin around,
Speaker 1: I'll make another play. So that was the thing behind it.
Speaker 1: And uh, I kind of I didn't do that at all.
Speaker 1: I didn't do it, not once this season because this
Speaker 1: was more of a business season. So a lot of
Speaker 1: people ask why don't you, why don't you dance any
Speaker 1: Why don't you do your little spinning around. It wasn't
Speaker 1: about that this year, but it was. It will definitely
Speaker 1: come back, for sure. It'll definitely would definitely be a
Speaker 1: time that you'll see the air good tower to spin around.
Speaker 1: So your body's feeling good, You're in a good place. Um,
Speaker 1: another Pro Bowl. Um still playing at a high level.
Speaker 1: You're ready to go to all suitors. I'm excited for you. Man.
Speaker 1: The sack master can still do it consistently, Hunter and
Speaker 1: seven sacks. Appreciate that. I appreciate you joining me, man.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to break it down with people.
Speaker 1: What goes into it. Obviously, it's not just you out
Speaker 1: there and get sacks right. You have to study, you
Speaker 1: have to prepare, you have to think about it, you
Speaker 1: have to almost live it. And there's someone who I
Speaker 1: literally see do that all the time on and off
Speaker 1: the field. You're talking about sacks and pass rushing and
Speaker 1: joking about it and being serious about it. So I
Speaker 1: just think you're a true mass of your craft, man,
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you got to break it down for people. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I appreciate your time, my guy. So
Speaker 1: go take that and that man, I will. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that so ful. I'm gonna see you know. I love you. Yes,
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