WEBVTT - 14. Chandler Jones on maximizing his talent 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.319 I were back another week with I think one of 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:13.920 my favorite teammates I'd ever played with. Funny guy, great 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.720 in the locker room, great on the field, the best 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:20.840 pass Russian football, Chandler Jones. I'll let you answer that. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.400 What's going on, man, I'm I'm doing good, man, I'm 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.119 glad to talk to you. I was just telling the 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:26.800 producers back here, I said, I was just getting ready 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.880 to head to bed, and uh, they said Logan wanted 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:30.280 to talk to me. So I called out of bed 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.519 to come hiller to So what's up? Let me tell 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.159 you know what, would Devin mccordy tell you, man, we 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.720 don't take naps, man, That is true, and he would 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.440 tell me to shave my head as well if you 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.639 were kid the hairline check. No, how you been, man, 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.080 You've been killing it out a z. I haven't been 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.520 able to play with you in a couple of years. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.959 Has been has been a journey, honestly, but Arizona has 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.040 been has been tremendous. Even with this season. It didn't 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.480 end how we wanted to to, obviously, but we definitely 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.160 were headed in the right direction and we had tim 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.000 plus wins and and hopefully you know whoever I'm playing 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.399 for the next year. We can build on that. And 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.880 that's the question. I mean, you're the guy. I mean, 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.760 you're you're going into Fredency. So you've been traded, you 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.479 got an ascension. This is your first time hand Fredency. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.720 That's so funny that you said that, because I was 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.120 just on the bus with a few other guys and uh, 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:20.840 you know they're asking me about you know, what are 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.319 what am I gonna do next season? And you know, 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.040 I said, there's a lot of different things that I 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.440 have to think about with with me, for my personal 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.160 with myself, and this is a time where I could, 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.440 you know, really focus on myself and what what fits 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.440 for me, you know, being a free agent. Uh, in 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.679 my ten of eleven years of playing football, I've never 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.200 had the opportunity to, uh to pick what scheme I 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:44.880 wanted to be in or what kind of defense. You know, 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.120 I've always been handed to, you know, not complaining, but 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.000 you know I was drafting to the Patriots, and then 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.160 I was traded to the Arizona Cardinals. And you know, 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:54.920 while I was in the Cardinals, I had about three 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.960 different defensive coordinators, a lot of different defensive coaches, and 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.160 I never had the opportunity to actually say, hey, this 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.040 is what I want to do. I've always been handed. 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.600 So this is gonna be very interesting for me because 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.520 I get to pick what scheme I'm gonna be in, 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.080 and and uh, you know that's one thing that's gonna 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.400 be a huge thing of my decision or what I 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.960 want to do, is you know what I what I 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.720 would like to do if I would want to rush 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.799 the pass or dropping coverage or whatever we want to do. So, um, 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.240 it's exciting for me. And uh, this is a great 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:23.679 position to be in. And I wouldn't want it to 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.080 be any other way, right, I mean you look at me. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.240 Look we came in young players, your draft the year 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.840 before me. We kind of grew up together. You're somebody 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.720 who's won a Super Bowl. You're somebody's who's been the 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.720 highest paid player in football or defensive player in football 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.919 at the time. You set the market. Um, now you 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.840 go to freidency and you're talking about schemes. So you know, 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.640 some players have made good money in their career and 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.560 I've set the market, and they say, at this age, 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.160 I care about winning. I care about championships, and so 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.560 I care about Some players have one championships on their 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.440 career and say, hey, I gotta care of my family. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.880 So where do you rank it. I think when you're 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.800 going to fred this, you gotta figure out what's gonna 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.519 make you happy. And it seems like you're talking a 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.520 lot about schemes. So how does that list work for 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:08.200 you in terms of money, scheme and obviously the ability 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.800 to play in championships because you're fortunate to check a 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.160 lot off right right. And you know, that's funny that 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.920 you pointed out that I said scheme, because to be 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:17.760 completely honest with you, Logan and I'm telling you this 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.480 being my friend, it's not about money at all, Like 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.800 you said, where I am in my career. I've gotten 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.400 the contracts, I've gotten the super Bowl, But but I 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.760 think scheme is huge or or for me, it's winning 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.520 more championships. Like I'll say it again, it's not about money. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.040 I will say. I will want to go to a 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.960 place that maximizes my talents, I would say. You know, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.120 I I say, in my career, there was a lot 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.600 of times that I caught myself out of position, you know, 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.880 and it's I I do take the blame, but at 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.640 the same time, it's like, Hey, should I have been 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.040 doing that? And uh? And I think I have enough 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:50.720 comfort where I am in my career at this age 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.360 to say that. Um So, I think when it comes 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:59.280 to my decision, where where does Chandler Jones become Challenge Jones? 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.960 Where could he make smizes his challenge? I mean, I 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.720 think there's a few times you see it this season 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.760 where you're like, what who is this guy? We won 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.880 five sex against your old team? Right? I know you 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.240 hear like if I was, like, he's laughing about it? Yeah, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.160 So I know, I'm pretty sure you'll see flashes of it, 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:15.920 and I'm pretty sure there's period of times when people 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.000 might say, oh, why is it disappearing? Where is this going? 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.320 Not to put it on just a game plan, I'm 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.200 sure there's a lot of different things that goes into it, 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.520 but I think going into free agency, I'll say this again, 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.200 what team maximizes Chandler Jones talents? Well, look, I know 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.320 a team you know, I'm your friend. I know a 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:38.080 team that has a decordinator, you know, and Pat Graham 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.719 has a new head coach, you know, and Dable he's recruiting. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.200 He's just kind of big, has a big market place 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.680 might need some help on the pastor us, so I'm 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.040 sure I'll be in your ear. But for the New 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.200 York fans as listen to this, if I don't pitch 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:53.720 to get Chandler Jones in New York, got to do 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.839 my job. He's been. For the New York fans that 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.440 are listening, he's been doing this not just on camera 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.480 on Twitter, actually going to his trainer through and shout 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.120 out to Brett Fisher, the guy I've been going to 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.479 for all my rehabs in my career. He went to 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.880 his Combine gym, and I wouldn't be here going to 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:12.839 my tenth year and have any of the success I 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.520 have without Brett Fisher out there in Arizona, who Chandler 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.360 now trains with and has done great things. He's helped 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.919 a lot of players behind the scenes. There's just so 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.440 many people that go into our um to go into 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.200 people's careers that you need to thank. And Chandler will 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.400 be thanking them when he gets his Hall of Fame 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.160 speech one day, because he has a hunter plus stacks. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.400 So tell me, tell me the art of pass rushing. Man. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.120 I'm just curious, as as as a fan of football, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:43.960 what do you think about because I think you know, 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:45.719 I know you, and I know how you walk around 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.360 the locker room and make everyone do one on one 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.839 pass rushing with you and always joking about it. But 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.719 it's all you think about. To tell me what goes 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.279 into that week and getting a seconds that tackle? What? 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.400 How do you break it down for the viewer? Yeah, 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.640 I sleep dream pass rush and as Logan said, any 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.800 opportunity that I get, it's a mental RiPP it's to 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.320 walk through. I'm always trying to go through pass rush. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.440 But I think, honestly, I think I've mastered it. And 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.280 not trying to be arrogant, but I just I think 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.000 they say you have to do something a hundred or 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.040 ten thousand times and you're becoming a master or whatever 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.159 that quote goes. I've I've mastered it. I think I 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.119 think there's time, there's different there's a lot of different 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.440 components into actually getting a sack. The biggest part of 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.640 pass rush is actually setting the guy up, no matter 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.640 who you're going against, and I think I'm a huge 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.320 believer or not rushing the name, but rushing the body. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.320 You can say you're going against Trent Williams Andrew Wentworth 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.520 Taylor Luan. I don't go against a name. I don't 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.640 really know who I'm wanting is. I don't really care for. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.799 I think there's guys that have longer arms or different 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.600 sets than the others. But at the end of the day, 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.839 I think it's all the same. It's all about setting 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.800 a guy up and actually catching him on his off 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:52.840 foot when it comes to power. But those are whole 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.480 different things. But I think I've definitely mastered pass Russian. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.520 I love doing it. I think I could still do 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.560 it for a long period of time. Now, who is 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.520 your um? Because you said it's not about name, it's 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.560 about bodies. Who plays the position that the tackle position? 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.040 You know, who's the best player? Who who who's really 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.600 good with their skills and not maybe the biggest name 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.720 or or whatnot. I'm always impressed by a guy like 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.160 David bat Who's he doesn't even watch the pastor he 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.280 watches the ball and gets to his set. And then 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.000 so I'm going against Chandler Jones at the end and 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:28.520 I'm not even gonna look at him. I'm gonna get 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.720 to my spot. That's how confident or or how his 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.040 process work. I always thought that was interesting. You know 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.600 to see how he goes And so who are some 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.840 guys as you think, are really do it the right 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.880 way and really tough at what they do. I'll say too, 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:42.760 And one of the guys is one of the guys 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.560 I was going against every day in practice. He's here 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.000 at the probo DJ Humphries. He's a guy that I 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.640 think he's definitely came a long way. He's actually understanding 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.240 the position of offensive tackle posted just out talenting and 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.560 out musclim people. Um, he understands that there's a lot 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.920 more to it than just you know, the physical game. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.640 And of course Trent Williams and you know, of course 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.680 he's an All Pro player, But to actually go against 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.960 Trent Williams, I'm I'm speaking to the guy that actually 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.320 has gone against him. Um. A lot of people speak 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.480 on ESPN and they speak on NFL films about all 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.120 this guy's an animal, he's a monster, and that's what 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.520 they're seeing. And I'm a player that actually gets a 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.480 chance to actually lock up with this guy and tie 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.360 up with him. So what they're saying times ten seriously, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.760 and uh, he's a hell of a player and he's 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.560 a guy that honestly, Um, there will be times in 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.520 the game where some of my moves won't be working, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.280 and I will say, hey, I'll tell the guy that 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.360 plays the other side, Hey, let's switch. My moves aren't working, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.960 Let's go. And he's just he commands that kind of respect. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.080 He's a hell of a player. And and uh, Trent 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.319 Williams is probably one of the one of the guys 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.120 that I would want to play against the lease on 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.280 an imposing team. Yeah, I know, I heard, you know 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.920 when when Kiddles saying that Trent Williams best player in 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.720 football and you see his feet, you know, I think 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.599 the best football player is all about your hands and 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.880 feet regards the position. His feet are silky like a 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.680 corner at that size. That's just a rare, rare thing 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.680 that you can't teach. Um. He's born with and he 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.040 worked at and he's and he's mastered it for sure. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.240 So I see these like pass rushers, right, he always, 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.200 you know, the draft hypes up pass rushers. And I 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:16.839 don't know how you slipped to the bottom of the 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.120 first round, of the middle half of the first round, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.720 or whatever, but you see these You see these pass 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.760 rushers and they come in with one move, right and 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.400 they come in a rookie year and can't get a sack. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.640 So when did you develop your two three? When did 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.600 that come? Where you came with your counter moves? And 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.280 I always relate to pass rushing as you would probably 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.400 knows boxing or m m A where you need to 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.079 kind of set guys up. Like you said, so when 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.680 did you start coming with that? What'd you come in with? 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.120 And then when did you develop the next couple? Yeah, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.439 I feel like, obviously it's kind of obvious, but what 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.000 I came with came in with two now is night 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.880 and day. And I know you say I slipped to 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:56.800 the bottom of the first round in the draft, but 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.559 I only had ten career sex in college, so I 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.839 think I thought I went up and I had had 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:06.480 a third round grade. But the forty four A seven 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.320 logan always has the tough trash you could ever just 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:14.520 ask questions. I love this guy, but but honestly, I 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.520 think it really clicked. I think my fourth year, my 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.640 fourth or fifth year, it really clicked. And and I 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.280 could say this at year ten. There's a point in 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.439 time and everyone's career where it's either you love football 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.840 or you don't. There's gonna be a time, and it 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.680 happens in a lot of NFL careers that could happen 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.640 in college. To me, I think I I think my 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.440 fourth year I really studied the game, and that just 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.680 shows my love for the game and not just studying 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.960 the game, but also studying myself. I think I stopped 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.800 kind of trying to really just out athletic people and 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.800 kind of just trying to duke him out and really 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.400 study steps or studying what to do at the point 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:57.120 of contact and study length and stab swiping a certain moves. 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.800 I think one day in practice, I think, goes Man Patricia, 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.199 you know, you know, Maddie Pete. One day in practice, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.160 Mamperatrician said, hey, run to this spot and stick your 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.000 inside on arm out, And I'm like sure. I ran 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.120 to the spot and stuck, and a guy fell in 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.120 his butt. He fell in his he literally fell flat 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.439 in his But after then, right after I started doing that, 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.520 I kind of started just working with that move and 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.200 doing different things off of it. Run to the spot, 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:21.920 stick my arm out and swape, stick my arm out 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.520 and spin, and that was always the counter. So to 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.520 this day, I literally kind of just kind of just 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.400 still run to that spot and stick my arm out, 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.280 and it's been working a lot for me. It reminds 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.640 me of something where I saw Kyrie Irving and they're 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.640 showing his handles and like, all right, Kyle Irving is 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.400 one of the best ball handlers in basketball, like put 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.760 them up with any debate, and he's got it and 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.400 he's doing all this stuff, and he's like, I really 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.280 only do the same three or four moves. I only 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.800 practice the same there or four dribbles. Is just I 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.400 know how to relate over how I combine them is 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.720 what merely makes it looks crazy or how to maenipulate 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.440 your defender. But he didn't go out there and practice 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:59.520 nineties seven different basketball dribbles in and one mixtape stuff. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.640 He's doing his same three or four fundamental moves he 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.920 just does. He's mastered how to layer him up right, 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.439 and then everything off of that is is either reactionary 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.839 or instinctual and per se. So yeah, it's the same thing. 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.440 It's the same as a thing. So I know some 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.240 of this has to has to come some of your 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.440 training or some of how you you know, understand spatial 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.640 awareness has to come from your brother. Obviously, John Jones, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.760 and you both your brothers art. So what was that 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.080 like growing up with another brother in the NFL and 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.560 other brothers the baddest man on the planet. Um so, 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.000 so how was that from childhood to where you are 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.400 now in that bond. Yeah, Well, being the youngest, I 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.400 have the opportunity to actually learn a lot, you know, 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.960 you kind of you learn from mistakes in from the success. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.640 You know, I see my older brother do something and 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.600 have success with it, I'm gonna do it, and and 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.480 vice versa. It's not working for him. Well even with 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:54.120 even to be example, leaving early for the NFL draft, 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.040 you know, my brother had the opportunity to leave and 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.400 he didn't and I saw that, and he actually got 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.000 injured and fail lower in the draft. I had the 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.280 opportunity to leave and I actually saw that, and that 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.040 was opportunity. I said, hey, you know what, I'm gonna 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:06.559 go because I don't want to go back to school 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:07.880 and have the same thing happened to me my brother. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.800 So there was a small example. But even growing up, 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.160 it was very competitive. We always compete who can run 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:15.920 to the frigerator of the fastest, who could eat their 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.760 bola possitive the fastest. Everything was a competition, and I 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.480 think that's what credit to a lot of our success today, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:27.240 just just being competitive, that competitive nature. I remember, so 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.520 you know, you're at the Pro Bowl, You've been to 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.560 a bunch of them, you've been a Super Bowl. I 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:38.000 remember after we won our first Super Bowl together in Arizona, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.360 or at the afterpart and have whisk Leith and all 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:44.280 that there, And I didn't realize how big the Super 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.719 Bowl is until you're not in it, right, because when 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.439 you're in it, it's just when you're a f C 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.920 Championships blah blah blah blah blah, NFC Championships, it's just bubble. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.080 You don't even really know. You got your year in 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.200 the season. And then you go and then like all 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.559 right and limit all distractions, and you go and you 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.480 play the game the games where we know, the pace 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.000 of the Super Bowl is a little slower with the 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.160 commercials and the halftime, but do what you do, right, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.559 that's just what we know. And then you win the game. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.840 You're like altists, we're gonna turn up. And then at 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.280 the after party, I see your brother, I think he 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.280 had triple H. And I grew up a wrestling fan, 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.440 and you start to see some of the musicians there 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.960 and you're like and they're dapping you up. You're like, man, 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.800 I'm taking shots for Triple H. I'm like, damn, this 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.400 is a big deal. Like I'm twenty three years old, 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.040 just won the Super Bowl taking shots with John Jones, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.520 and you remember that that was real? Remember that, I 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.880 was saying into So even though that was my brother, 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.040 everybody else in that room, I was just like, even 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:39.600 Rick Ross was that back there. I don't know if 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.360 you remember that. Yeah, that was a good time. That 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.920 was really a good time. So these guys that since 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.200 you man, I'm really like, you know, I'm really happy 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.040 for you know, these you know, some teams go all 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.000 the time, but to see different teams go and see 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.200 those guys experience them. I mean, those guys go entire 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.760 career without Super Bowl Me and you can talk about 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.400 the memories of that season and and and you know, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.560 just like like it's nothing to us. It's and you 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.280 win it, and then the next year you just move on, 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.400 Like it's like the rings in a safe and you 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.760 just move on. You don't go around talking on the 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.600 super every day. So the realities of life, it keeps 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.520 it moving. It is your is your ringing a safe 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.720 where you gotta replica somewhere? What you got going on? 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.480 My rings in a safe? Saying I got a replica 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:27.480 sitting in my little shrine at home though, but everyone yeah, 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.200 ring replica, but people pick it up and I tell 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:30.840 him like, it's the real thing, but it's not the 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:36.080 real ring. You just gave it away. I got a 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.920 trophy replica. I got my trophy. I got a ring replica. 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.040 I didn't do that right away. I didn't get the trophies. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.680 I was like, man, I'm not paying. I was like, 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.280 I wanted to. I wanted the trophy, Like I don't 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.400 you know only you know only the team gets to 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.520 get the Lombardi right. So Den mccorey is like, man, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.480 go get you a replica because one day you're gonna 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.840 do charity events. You're gonna be podcasts going in your 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.080 office behind your people. Don't have it. So when I 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.480 wanted the second one a couple of years later, I 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.080 was like, can you make the first one too? So 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:02.880 you got them, but what they are I don't see 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.520 him down both in this house, man, I got I 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.480 got a multiple homes and this logan Ryan Fellers from 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.040 my I took this guy into my wing and now 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.640 he's talking about something not in this house. This is 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.200 crazy to me. So I'm proud of you. I want 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.400 to give this guy a hug. Listen, man, I see 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.840 these stats come out man every year, the most most 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.920 sacks since blah blah blah, the most blah blah blah, 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:33.120 Chandler Jones, Aaron Donald, t j whoever. You know, Uh, 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.280 Robert Quinn, You're always at the top of these lists. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.600 But I feel like you're slept on. Tell me, do 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.680 you feel underrated or or you're not slept on? But 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.600 you're not Defensive Player of the Year every year, but 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.760 you're you're having more sacks and these guys every year. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.280 To me, to be completely honest with you, when we 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.840 were teammates, I think I would I would have felt 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.080 like I was underrated for sure earlier in my career 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.760 to be like, oh, you know, I got these numbers 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.200 I got. But you know, when you when you have 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.439 the opportunity to win the Super Bowl and uh and 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.119 to actually get a contract where you don't have to 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:12.800 work anymore after football, you know, of course I want. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.159 There's other goals that I want, you know, there's I 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.080 never want Defensive Player of the Year, all these all 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.119 these things, I don't wait too heavy on them, to 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.159 be honest with you, think like you're saying, these numbers 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:23.960 don't lie at the end of the day when you 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:25.920 look at the numbers, just like, all right, this guy 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.320 don't have a Defensive Player of the Year. But these 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.840 numbers are crazy. You know what, what what do you do? 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.119 So I know what it is. And at the end 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:34.640 of the day, I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.919 regardless of the accolades. That's just that's just how I 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.840 was raised, That's how I am. So uh, it definitely 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.560 drives me to play, to to to play even harder, 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.359 to play even better. So that's even dangerous. So it's 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.000 gonna make it look even more crazy. So I'll keep 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.480 balling and the accolades and keep not coming. But Julian 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.640 Jones is gonna still go get You're gonna get them sacks. Though, 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:55.639 What was that year like in the Red Sea out 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.399 there in Arizona? I mean, if it got off to 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.240 a great start for y'all, obviously, like explained, but it 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.960 seems like Arizona hasn't you know, Actually, you know that 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.720 they won Um maybe ten years ago, and the fits 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:10.280