1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: I were back another week with I think one of 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: my favorite teammates I'd ever played with. Funny guy, great 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: in the locker room, great on the field, the best 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: pass Russian football, Chandler Jones. I'll let you answer that. 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: What's going on, man, I'm I'm doing good, man, I'm 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: glad to talk to you. I was just telling the 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: producers back here, I said, I was just getting ready 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: to head to bed, and uh, they said Logan wanted 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: to talk to me. So I called out of bed 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: to come hiller to So what's up? Let me tell 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: you know what, would Devin mccordy tell you, man, we 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: don't take naps, man, That is true, and he would 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: tell me to shave my head as well if you 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: were kid the hairline check. No, how you been, man, 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: You've been killing it out a z. I haven't been 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: able to play with you in a couple of years. 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 1: Has been has been a journey, honestly, but Arizona has 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: been has been tremendous. Even with this season. It didn't 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: end how we wanted to to, obviously, but we definitely 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: were headed in the right direction and we had tim 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: plus wins and and hopefully you know whoever I'm playing 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: for the next year. We can build on that. And 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: that's the question. I mean, you're the guy. I mean, 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: you're you're going into Fredency. So you've been traded, you 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: got an ascension. This is your first time hand Fredency. 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: That's so funny that you said that, because I was 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: just on the bus with a few other guys and uh, 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: you know they're asking me about you know, what are 29 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do next season? And you know, 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: I said, there's a lot of different things that I 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: have to think about with with me, for my personal 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: with myself, and this is a time where I could, 33 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, really focus on myself and what what fits 34 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: for me, you know, being a free agent. Uh, in 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: my ten of eleven years of playing football, I've never 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to, uh to pick what scheme I 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: wanted to be in or what kind of defense. You know, 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: I've always been handed to, you know, not complaining, but 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: you know I was drafting to the Patriots, and then 40 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: I was traded to the Arizona Cardinals. And you know, 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: while I was in the Cardinals, I had about three 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: different defensive coordinators, a lot of different defensive coaches, and 43 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: I never had the opportunity to actually say, hey, this 44 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: is what I want to do. I've always been handed. 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: So this is gonna be very interesting for me because 46 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: I get to pick what scheme I'm gonna be in, 47 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: and and uh, you know that's one thing that's gonna 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: be a huge thing of my decision or what I 49 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: want to do, is you know what I what I 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: would like to do if I would want to rush 51 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: the pass or dropping coverage or whatever we want to do. So, um, 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: it's exciting for me. And uh, this is a great 53 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: position to be in. And I wouldn't want it to 54 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: be any other way, right, I mean you look at me. 55 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: Look we came in young players, your draft the year 56 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: before me. We kind of grew up together. You're somebody 57 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: who's won a Super Bowl. You're somebody's who's been the 58 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: highest paid player in football or defensive player in football 59 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: at the time. You set the market. Um, now you 60 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: go to freidency and you're talking about schemes. So you know, 61 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: some players have made good money in their career and 62 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I've set the market, and they say, at this age, 63 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: I care about winning. I care about championships, and so 64 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: I care about Some players have one championships on their 65 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: career and say, hey, I gotta care of my family. 66 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: So where do you rank it. I think when you're 67 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: going to fred this, you gotta figure out what's gonna 68 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: make you happy. And it seems like you're talking a 69 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: lot about schemes. So how does that list work for 70 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: you in terms of money, scheme and obviously the ability 71 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: to play in championships because you're fortunate to check a 72 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: lot off right right. And you know, that's funny that 73 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: you pointed out that I said scheme, because to be 74 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: completely honest with you, Logan and I'm telling you this 75 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: being my friend, it's not about money at all, Like 76 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: you said, where I am in my career. I've gotten 77 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: the contracts, I've gotten the super Bowl, But but I 78 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: think scheme is huge or or for me, it's winning 79 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: more championships. Like I'll say it again, it's not about money. 80 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: I will say. I will want to go to a 81 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: place that maximizes my talents, I would say. You know, 82 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: I I say, in my career, there was a lot 83 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: of times that I caught myself out of position, you know, 84 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: and it's I I do take the blame, but at 85 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, Hey, should I have been 86 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: doing that? And uh? And I think I have enough 87 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: comfort where I am in my career at this age 88 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: to say that. Um So, I think when it comes 89 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: to my decision, where where does Chandler Jones become Challenge Jones? 90 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: Where could he make smizes his challenge? I mean, I 91 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: think there's a few times you see it this season 92 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: where you're like, what who is this guy? We won 93 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: five sex against your old team? Right? I know you 94 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: hear like if I was, like, he's laughing about it? Yeah, 95 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: So I know, I'm pretty sure you'll see flashes of it, 96 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure there's period of times when people 97 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: might say, oh, why is it disappearing? Where is this going? 98 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: Not to put it on just a game plan, I'm 99 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of different things that goes into it, 100 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: but I think going into free agency, I'll say this again, 101 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: what team maximizes Chandler Jones talents? Well, look, I know 102 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: a team you know, I'm your friend. I know a 103 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: team that has a decordinator, you know, and Pat Graham 104 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: has a new head coach, you know, and Dable he's recruiting. 105 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: He's just kind of big, has a big market place 106 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: might need some help on the pastor us, so I'm 107 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: sure I'll be in your ear. But for the New 108 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: York fans as listen to this, if I don't pitch 109 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: to get Chandler Jones in New York, got to do 110 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: my job. He's been. For the New York fans that 111 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: are listening, he's been doing this not just on camera 112 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter, actually going to his trainer through and shout 113 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: out to Brett Fisher, the guy I've been going to 114 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: for all my rehabs in my career. He went to 115 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: his Combine gym, and I wouldn't be here going to 116 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: my tenth year and have any of the success I 117 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: have without Brett Fisher out there in Arizona, who Chandler 118 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: now trains with and has done great things. He's helped 119 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: a lot of players behind the scenes. There's just so 120 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: many people that go into our um to go into 121 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: people's careers that you need to thank. And Chandler will 122 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: be thanking them when he gets his Hall of Fame 123 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: speech one day, because he has a hunter plus stacks. 124 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: So tell me, tell me the art of pass rushing. Man. 125 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, as as as a fan of football, 126 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: what do you think about because I think you know, 127 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: I know you, and I know how you walk around 128 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: the locker room and make everyone do one on one 129 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: pass rushing with you and always joking about it. But 130 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: it's all you think about. To tell me what goes 131 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: into that week and getting a seconds that tackle? What? 132 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: How do you break it down for the viewer? Yeah, 133 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: I sleep dream pass rush and as Logan said, any 134 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: opportunity that I get, it's a mental RiPP it's to 135 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: walk through. I'm always trying to go through pass rush. 136 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: But I think, honestly, I think I've mastered it. And 137 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: not trying to be arrogant, but I just I think 138 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: they say you have to do something a hundred or 139 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: ten thousand times and you're becoming a master or whatever 140 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: that quote goes. I've I've mastered it. I think I 141 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 1: think there's time, there's different there's a lot of different 142 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: components into actually getting a sack. The biggest part of 143 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: pass rush is actually setting the guy up, no matter 144 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: who you're going against, and I think I'm a huge 145 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: believer or not rushing the name, but rushing the body. 146 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: You can say you're going against Trent Williams Andrew Wentworth 147 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: Taylor Luan. I don't go against a name. I don't 148 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: really know who I'm wanting is. I don't really care for. 149 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: I think there's guys that have longer arms or different 150 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: sets than the others. But at the end of the day, 151 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: I think it's all the same. It's all about setting 152 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: a guy up and actually catching him on his off 153 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: foot when it comes to power. But those are whole 154 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: different things. But I think I've definitely mastered pass Russian. 155 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: I love doing it. I think I could still do 156 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: it for a long period of time. Now, who is 157 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: your um? Because you said it's not about name, it's 158 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: about bodies. Who plays the position that the tackle position? 159 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: You know, who's the best player? Who who who's really 160 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: good with their skills and not maybe the biggest name 161 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: or or whatnot. I'm always impressed by a guy like 162 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: David bat Who's he doesn't even watch the pastor he 163 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: watches the ball and gets to his set. And then 164 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: so I'm going against Chandler Jones at the end and 165 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna look at him. I'm gonna get 166 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: to my spot. That's how confident or or how his 167 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: process work. I always thought that was interesting. You know 168 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: to see how he goes And so who are some 169 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: guys as you think, are really do it the right 170 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: way and really tough at what they do. I'll say too, 171 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: And one of the guys is one of the guys 172 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: I was going against every day in practice. He's here 173 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: at the probo DJ Humphries. He's a guy that I 174 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: think he's definitely came a long way. He's actually understanding 175 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: the position of offensive tackle posted just out talenting and 176 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: out musclim people. Um, he understands that there's a lot 177 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: more to it than just you know, the physical game. 178 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: And of course Trent Williams and you know, of course 179 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: he's an All Pro player, But to actually go against 180 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Trent Williams, I'm I'm speaking to the guy that actually 181 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: has gone against him. Um. A lot of people speak 182 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: on ESPN and they speak on NFL films about all 183 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: this guy's an animal, he's a monster, and that's what 184 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: they're seeing. And I'm a player that actually gets a 185 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: chance to actually lock up with this guy and tie 186 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: up with him. So what they're saying times ten seriously, 187 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: and uh, he's a hell of a player and he's 188 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: a guy that honestly, Um, there will be times in 189 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: the game where some of my moves won't be working, 190 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: and I will say, hey, I'll tell the guy that 191 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: plays the other side, Hey, let's switch. My moves aren't working, 192 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: Let's go. And he's just he commands that kind of respect. 193 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: He's a hell of a player. And and uh, Trent 194 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: Williams is probably one of the one of the guys 195 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: that I would want to play against the lease on 196 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: an imposing team. Yeah, I know, I heard, you know 197 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: when when Kiddles saying that Trent Williams best player in 198 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: football and you see his feet, you know, I think 199 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: the best football player is all about your hands and 200 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: feet regards the position. His feet are silky like a 201 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: corner at that size. That's just a rare, rare thing 202 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: that you can't teach. Um. He's born with and he 203 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: worked at and he's and he's mastered it for sure. 204 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: So I see these like pass rushers, right, he always, 205 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, the draft hypes up pass rushers. And I 206 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: don't know how you slipped to the bottom of the 207 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: first round, of the middle half of the first round, 208 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: or whatever, but you see these You see these pass 209 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: rushers and they come in with one move, right and 210 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: they come in a rookie year and can't get a sack. 211 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: So when did you develop your two three? When did 212 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: that come? Where you came with your counter moves? And 213 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: I always relate to pass rushing as you would probably 214 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: knows boxing or m m A where you need to 215 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: kind of set guys up. Like you said, so when 216 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: did you start coming with that? What'd you come in with? 217 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: And then when did you develop the next couple? Yeah, 218 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: I feel like, obviously it's kind of obvious, but what 219 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: I came with came in with two now is night 220 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: and day. And I know you say I slipped to 221 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: the bottom of the first round in the draft, but 222 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: I only had ten career sex in college, so I 223 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: think I thought I went up and I had had 224 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: a third round grade. But the forty four A seven 225 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: logan always has the tough trash you could ever just 226 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: ask questions. I love this guy, but but honestly, I 227 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: think it really clicked. I think my fourth year, my 228 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth year, it really clicked. And and I 229 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: could say this at year ten. There's a point in 230 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: time and everyone's career where it's either you love football 231 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: or you don't. There's gonna be a time, and it 232 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: happens in a lot of NFL careers that could happen 233 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: in college. To me, I think I I think my 234 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: fourth year I really studied the game, and that just 235 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: shows my love for the game and not just studying 236 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: the game, but also studying myself. I think I stopped 237 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: kind of trying to really just out athletic people and 238 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: kind of just trying to duke him out and really 239 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: study steps or studying what to do at the point 240 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: of contact and study length and stab swiping a certain moves. 241 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: I think one day in practice, I think, goes Man Patricia, 242 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: you know, you know, Maddie Pete. One day in practice, 243 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: Mamperatrician said, hey, run to this spot and stick your 244 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: inside on arm out, And I'm like sure. I ran 245 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: to the spot and stuck, and a guy fell in 246 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: his butt. He fell in his he literally fell flat 247 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: in his But after then, right after I started doing that, 248 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: I kind of started just working with that move and 249 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: doing different things off of it. Run to the spot, 250 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: stick my arm out and swape, stick my arm out 251 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: and spin, and that was always the counter. So to 252 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: this day, I literally kind of just kind of just 253 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: still run to that spot and stick my arm out, 254 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: and it's been working a lot for me. It reminds 255 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: me of something where I saw Kyrie Irving and they're 256 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: showing his handles and like, all right, Kyle Irving is 257 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: one of the best ball handlers in basketball, like put 258 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: them up with any debate, and he's got it and 259 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: he's doing all this stuff, and he's like, I really 260 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: only do the same three or four moves. I only 261 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: practice the same there or four dribbles. Is just I 262 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: know how to relate over how I combine them is 263 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: what merely makes it looks crazy or how to maenipulate 264 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: your defender. But he didn't go out there and practice 265 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: nineties seven different basketball dribbles in and one mixtape stuff. 266 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: He's doing his same three or four fundamental moves he 267 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: just does. He's mastered how to layer him up right, 268 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: and then everything off of that is is either reactionary 269 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: or instinctual and per se. So yeah, it's the same thing. 270 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: It's the same as a thing. So I know some 271 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: of this has to has to come some of your 272 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: training or some of how you you know, understand spatial 273 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: awareness has to come from your brother. Obviously, John Jones, 274 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: and you both your brothers art. So what was that 275 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: like growing up with another brother in the NFL and 276 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: other brothers the baddest man on the planet. Um so, 277 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: so how was that from childhood to where you are 278 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: now in that bond. Yeah, Well, being the youngest, I 279 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to actually learn a lot, you know, 280 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: you kind of you learn from mistakes in from the success. 281 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, I see my older brother do something and 282 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: have success with it, I'm gonna do it, and and 283 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: vice versa. It's not working for him. Well even with 284 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: even to be example, leaving early for the NFL draft, 285 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, my brother had the opportunity to leave and 286 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: he didn't and I saw that, and he actually got 287 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: injured and fail lower in the draft. I had the 288 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: opportunity to leave and I actually saw that, and that 289 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: was opportunity. I said, hey, you know what, I'm gonna 290 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: go because I don't want to go back to school 291 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: and have the same thing happened to me my brother. 292 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: So there was a small example. But even growing up, 293 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: it was very competitive. We always compete who can run 294 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: to the frigerator of the fastest, who could eat their 295 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: bola possitive the fastest. Everything was a competition, and I 296 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: think that's what credit to a lot of our success today, 297 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: just just being competitive, that competitive nature. I remember, so 298 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, you're at the Pro Bowl, You've been to 299 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of them, you've been a Super Bowl. I 300 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: remember after we won our first Super Bowl together in Arizona, 301 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: or at the afterpart and have whisk Leith and all 302 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: that there, And I didn't realize how big the Super 303 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: Bowl is until you're not in it, right, because when 304 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: you're in it, it's just when you're a f C 305 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Championships blah blah blah blah blah, NFC Championships, it's just bubble. 306 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: You don't even really know. You got your year in 307 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: the season. And then you go and then like all 308 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: right and limit all distractions, and you go and you 309 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: play the game the games where we know, the pace 310 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl is a little slower with the 311 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: commercials and the halftime, but do what you do, right, 312 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: that's just what we know. And then you win the game. 313 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: You're like altists, we're gonna turn up. And then at 314 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: the after party, I see your brother, I think he 315 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: had triple H. And I grew up a wrestling fan, 316 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: and you start to see some of the musicians there 317 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: and you're like and they're dapping you up. You're like, man, 318 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm taking shots for Triple H. I'm like, damn, this 319 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: is a big deal. Like I'm twenty three years old, 320 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl taking shots with John Jones, 321 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: and you remember that that was real? Remember that, I 322 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: was saying into So even though that was my brother, 323 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: everybody else in that room, I was just like, even 324 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: Rick Ross was that back there. I don't know if 325 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: you remember that. Yeah, that was a good time. That 326 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: was really a good time. So these guys that since 327 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: you man, I'm really like, you know, I'm really happy 328 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: for you know, these you know, some teams go all 329 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: the time, but to see different teams go and see 330 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: those guys experience them. I mean, those guys go entire 331 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: career without Super Bowl Me and you can talk about 332 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: the memories of that season and and and you know, 333 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: just like like it's nothing to us. It's and you 334 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: win it, and then the next year you just move on, 335 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Like it's like the rings in a safe and you 336 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: just move on. You don't go around talking on the 337 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: super every day. So the realities of life, it keeps 338 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: it moving. It is your is your ringing a safe 339 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: where you gotta replica somewhere? What you got going on? 340 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: My rings in a safe? Saying I got a replica 341 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: sitting in my little shrine at home though, but everyone yeah, 342 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: ring replica, but people pick it up and I tell 343 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: him like, it's the real thing, but it's not the 344 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: real ring. You just gave it away. I got a 345 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: trophy replica. I got my trophy. I got a ring replica. 346 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: I didn't do that right away. I didn't get the trophies. 347 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm not paying. I was like, 348 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to. I wanted the trophy, Like I don't 349 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: you know only you know only the team gets to 350 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: get the Lombardi right. So Den mccorey is like, man, 351 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: go get you a replica because one day you're gonna 352 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: do charity events. You're gonna be podcasts going in your 353 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: office behind your people. Don't have it. So when I 354 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: wanted the second one a couple of years later, I 355 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: was like, can you make the first one too? So 356 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: you got them, but what they are I don't see 357 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: him down both in this house, man, I got I 358 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: got a multiple homes and this logan Ryan Fellers from 359 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: my I took this guy into my wing and now 360 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: he's talking about something not in this house. This is 361 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: crazy to me. So I'm proud of you. I want 362 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: to give this guy a hug. Listen, man, I see 363 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: these stats come out man every year, the most most 364 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: sacks since blah blah blah, the most blah blah blah, 365 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, Aaron Donald, t j whoever. You know, Uh, 366 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn, You're always at the top of these lists. 367 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: But I feel like you're slept on. Tell me, do 368 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: you feel underrated or or you're not slept on? But 369 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: you're not Defensive Player of the Year every year, but 370 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: you're you're having more sacks and these guys every year. 371 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: To me, to be completely honest with you, when we 372 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: were teammates, I think I would I would have felt 373 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: like I was underrated for sure earlier in my career 374 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, you know, I got these numbers 375 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: I got. But you know, when you when you have 376 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: the opportunity to win the Super Bowl and uh and 377 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: to actually get a contract where you don't have to 378 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: work anymore after football, you know, of course I want. 379 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: There's other goals that I want, you know, there's I 380 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: never want Defensive Player of the Year, all these all 381 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: these things, I don't wait too heavy on them, to 382 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: be honest with you, think like you're saying, these numbers 383 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: don't lie at the end of the day when you 384 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: look at the numbers, just like, all right, this guy 385 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: don't have a Defensive Player of the Year. But these 386 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: numbers are crazy. You know what, what what do you do? 387 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: So I know what it is. And at the end 388 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: of the day, I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing, 389 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: regardless of the accolades. That's just that's just how I 390 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: was raised, That's how I am. So uh, it definitely 391 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: drives me to play, to to to play even harder, 392 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: to play even better. So that's even dangerous. So it's 393 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: gonna make it look even more crazy. So I'll keep 394 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: balling and the accolades and keep not coming. But Julian 395 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: Jones is gonna still go get You're gonna get them sacks. Though, 396 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: What was that year like in the Red Sea out 397 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: there in Arizona? I mean, if it got off to 398 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: a great start for y'all, obviously, like explained, but it 399 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: seems like Arizona hasn't you know, Actually, you know that 400 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: they won Um maybe ten years ago, and the fits 401 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: and all that when they wanted to when they were 402 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: out there with their Super Bowl years. So what was 403 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: it like to get that back there and the kind 404 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: of get that fan base going obviously with the Phoenix Suns, 405 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: the whole Phoenix area. You love Arizona that I love. 406 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: Arizona is nothing. There's no place like Arizona. Promise you. 407 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: The fans are great. Even when I got traded there, 408 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean they embraced me with open arms that they 409 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: were happy to have me. I mean, it was the transition. 410 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Even the players, I meant Larry Fitzgerald, Calais Campbell. So 411 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: I remember my first day there, Kalaris Kembells in the 412 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: in the cafeteria said hey, come sit down. I'm gonna 413 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: show you where you stay there, where you want to live, 414 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: where you gonna he I mean, they had this committee 415 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: with players that the kind of just grabbed me as 416 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: soon as I got there, and and their fans and 417 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: and even coach b A and even the owner that 418 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean everyone, everyone just they did a good job 419 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: of actually making me feel welcoming at home. I actually 420 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: bought a house there, only my only one house I 421 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: owned one house, Like, I'm like, uh, I got Logan here, 422 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 1: but I actually bought a house there, and uh, like 423 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: I said, it's definitely a place where even after football 424 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: you would want to kind of just go back there 425 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: and kick it. So it was a good idea for 426 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: me to get a house over there for sure. I mean, 427 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: it's a great place to train. The weather, obviously, it's great, 428 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: great people out there. I've been familiar with it just 429 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: for my career of spend a lot of time in 430 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the off season, and I just don't know, I think 431 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: it's something great for the people that are listening and 432 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: how much time we put in. So when you when 433 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: you finish this Pro Bowl, um, what is your off 434 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: season look like? When do you kind of start training 435 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: or do you stick right in And how does it 436 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: go for you at this point? Yeah, you know, I 437 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: felt really good after this season. You know, I don't 438 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: know if you know, but I had I got COVID 439 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: during the season and I missed two games, and for 440 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: some reason, when I came back from COVID, my body 441 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: kind of took like a second win, like a recharge, 442 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: and I like even going through over the year, like 443 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: my body felt amazing, So usually I will take I'll 444 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: take a break from working out before I kind of 445 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: get into working up because I will have to recover 446 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: from the bumps and bruisers for the season. But I 447 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: feel like offseason chain right now, so I think I'm 448 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: gonna go right back into it. I'm gonna go book 449 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: over at x OS and and I want to go 450 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: right back in the training, the pilates, the weight lifting, 451 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: and and you start building back this this body for 452 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: for next season. Yeah, and obviously building into fredency and 453 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: and and that's gonna be exciting for you. And that 454 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: possible change or possible come back. It's just I think, 455 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: you know, as you know, I grew my family, right, 456 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: have two kids, and I have a wife, and all 457 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: these moves you talk about, it affects. It affects, uh, everybody. 458 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: Like the reason why I two homes, right, I bought 459 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: the house up here on from New Jersey, went back 460 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: to the Giants, thought a house here, and I was like, 461 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to Florida where my home's at. 462 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: And and being a warm and trained and this and that, 463 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: like up my daughter first grade, that's not her best interests, 464 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's not her best interests. She's been we've 465 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: been dealing with co but obviously the last two years 466 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: been homeschooling the kids, and and now she has a 467 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: friend group, and now she has a little girl click, 468 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: and now she's in first grade. She's doing well in school, 469 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: and you don't want to pull your kids out of school. 470 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: Uh So, it's always things you gotta think about more 471 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: than you know. When you're young and just say I'm 472 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna go here, I'm gonna go to Vegas, I'm gonna 473 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: go here, I'm gona train here, I'm gonna go try 474 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: this out. It's like now, as you get older, your 475 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: priorities kind of changing the sense where you make your 476 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: work very true, very true, especially I think in my situation. Um, 477 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to say, you know, this is 478 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: your free agent, free free agent year, go out there 479 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: and ball out, but there's a lot of different components 480 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: that goes into that. You you know, it's hard to 481 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: say there's a point in time during the season where 482 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: I didn't think that where am I gonna live next year? Well? 483 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Who am I going to play? For? Thinking about that 484 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: when you have no kind of like a security or 485 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's a that mental state 486 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: of football, not just playing the game, but just knowing 487 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: that your family. I have a three year old, you 488 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So there's a lot to it. 489 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: And like I said, this is a very exciting time 490 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: for me personally. And uh, I'm glad that you know 491 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: this season is over unfortunately, and then how we wanted 492 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: it to but for me to walk off to feel 493 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: healthy and and uh and the way I did, I 494 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: can walk up with with with my chest and my 495 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: chin up for sure. Now you're in a hundred sack club. 496 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? To get that milestone 497 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: or just that elite you know, elite pier surrounding just 498 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: an elite status of a hundred plus secks. A lot 499 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: of guys played this game. The durability that consistency needed 500 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: obviously has to span over eight ten plus years. How 501 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: does that? What does that speak to you? And what 502 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: does that mean to you? It means a lot to me, 503 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: honestly to get a hundred sex I know what it 504 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: takes to get a hundred sex um and even the 505 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: percentile people of active players right now in the NFL, 506 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: everyone else that has a hundred sex in the NFL. 507 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: I think are all in the draft class in front 508 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: of me. So I think that puts me and myself 509 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: in a category awards like and I even I missed 510 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: the whole season last year, So I think that puts 511 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: me in the category where it's like, wow, you know, 512 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: everyone else has a hundred sex or had a year 513 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: or is it or two years ahead of me. But 514 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: I think that that puts me on on a strong pace. 515 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: And I don't like to play the pace game because 516 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, you set yourself up for failure. But when 517 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: you sit back and you look at the numbers, when 518 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: you look at my numbers, it's a good feeling to 519 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: look at for sure. So one fifty end goal is it? 520 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: What is the You're not putting a number on it. 521 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: Only God knows. Only God knows only God. I don't know. 522 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm at one or seven 523 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 1: and a half right now. So you know, I started 524 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: this thing off by saying, you're one of the best 525 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: you know, teammates I played with, and obviously in New 526 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: Wing that we had a special locker room, which I 527 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: think attributed to a lot of on field success, and 528 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us learned from each other 529 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: how to be great pros. A lot of players in 530 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: that locker room have played nine ten plus years, different organizations, 531 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: Captains and different organizations, leaders and different organizations, walk to 532 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: the payman of year candidates and different organizations. What do 533 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: you think you learned playing under Bill Um, playing in 534 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: that locker room for the first couple of years of 535 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: your career that you kind of took with you just 536 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: your New England days. Well, one thing, one thing I 537 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: really admired about Coach Belichick is that I felt like 538 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: he didn't just care about the football player part of you, 539 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like he he made sure that 540 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: you understood the importance of the people around you and 541 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: not just your teammates, but you know the jenitors and uh, Bill, 542 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: when we first got there, he uh he would literally 543 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: put and you can you can um you know this. 544 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: He will put pictures of these people up on the 545 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: on the screen and these would be jenitors, these would 546 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: be the people that work in the cafeteria, the nutritionists, 547 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: and he would ask the rookies and the new people 548 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: around the facility, who is this And he made sure 549 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: the rookie you know who the jenitor was, who what 550 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: was their name, where are they from? And I think 551 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: doing exercises like that, it goes a long way because 552 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: I carry that, I carry that to this day and 553 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: think about that's all I knew, that's what was instilling, 554 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: instilling to me as a rookie. But even to this day, 555 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: I sit there, I talked to the genitor, I sit 556 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: there and have a conversations just become from that exercise. 557 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: And I'm ten years in so I'm pretty sure there's 558 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: a lot of different exercises that that he did that 559 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: kind of carries with you to this day, to the 560 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: other teams, and it kind of spreads throughout the throughout 561 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: your the organization. Yeah, I think. I think the versatility 562 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: obviously moving you know, moving guys around where they want 563 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: to or not, makes you learn multiple positions, learn the defense, 564 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: learned the scheme from, you know, different positions. When you 565 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: can teach your position to somebody else, say now do this. 566 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: It's not like I'm playing for Pat Graham right now, 567 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: the same New England defense and I've started all five 568 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: spots in the secondary, both corners, the slot, obviously strong safety, 569 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: free safety, and it's nothing you know, I've played it, 570 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: but I'm able to see the game for all five spots, 571 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, and that's rare. But I was kind of 572 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: raising that and that was my that was my edge, 573 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: was my versatility. So I think moving players around challenging players. 574 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: One thing I always remember is um O t A 575 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: s how will be out there with no jersey number 576 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: right and you had to literally say, hey, Chandler, watch 577 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: the crack Blob. You know, I forgot about that. That 578 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: was fifty five, you know, watch the Cracker. I had 579 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: to say your name. You really had to communicate, and 580 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: and that's what goes into obviously football is communication and 581 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: goes into any type of team building atmosphere, whether at 582 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: work what No matter what you do, you gotta know 583 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: who people are and be able to communicate with them. 584 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: And I also feel like that itself and made us 585 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: more family oriented. And I feel like when you're on 586 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: the field and you're about to go in the war 587 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: with someone that you see it as your legit brother, 588 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: I think you will play harder for that person. You 589 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: will go to extra almost like the movie three hundred 590 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: when you when they say you protected you, you hold 591 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: your shows a little bit to the right, so you're 592 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: not just protecting yourself but you're protecting them in next 593 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: to you. It's almost like the same thing. And doing 594 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: things like that where you're kind of getting to know 595 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: the person more and you're calling them by their name. 596 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: Ultimately it makes the team better. So you came up 597 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: when you're in Arizona with that air guitar. Yeah, I 598 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: felt like, did you did you do that? Like, we're 599 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: on the Patriots and you did that against us? Where 600 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: did that? Where did that come from? Where does that celebration? Even? 601 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: Where do you think of that? That's something o them 602 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: because you were trying a lot of different stuff. I was. 603 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of things. I was dancing. 604 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: I know a few other guys were throwing shade on 605 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: my dance move, so I stopped dancing. Chest bumps. I 606 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: was going up and you remember that. I've been chest 607 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: bump you a few times. Even jumps after a second. 608 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: It's a lot of jumping everyone on the team. But 609 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, it just came to me. I 610 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: remember I was playing the Jacksonville Jaguars and I had 611 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: a huge TfL in the backfield they had They ran 612 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: a counter and had a tear feel, and that the 613 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: way I got up. I was already under knee and 614 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: it was just perfect. I just like to spinning my 615 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: arm and it was a thing. And I got to 616 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: sack the very next play, and I was like, you 617 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: know what, I want to do this again. So I 618 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: realized every time I did that, I started making plays. 619 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: So it became almost like a superstition. And even if 620 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: I made a tackle, I think, even if I do 621 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: my air guitar whatever you wanna call it, to spin around, 622 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: I'll make another play. So that was the thing behind it. 623 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: And uh, I kind of I didn't do that at all. 624 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: I didn't do it, not once this season because this 625 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: was more of a business season. So a lot of 626 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: people ask why don't you, why don't you dance any 627 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: Why don't you do your little spinning around. It wasn't 628 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: about that this year, but it was. It will definitely 629 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 1: come back, for sure. It'll definitely would definitely be a 630 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: time that you'll see the air good tower to spin around. 631 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: So your body's feeling good, You're in a good place. Um, 632 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: another Pro Bowl. Um still playing at a high level. 633 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 1: You're ready to go to all suitors. I'm excited for you. Man. 634 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: The sack master can still do it consistently, Hunter and 635 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: seven sacks. Appreciate that. I appreciate you joining me, man. 636 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to break it down with people. 637 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: What goes into it. Obviously, it's not just you out 638 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: there and get sacks right. You have to study, you 639 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: have to prepare, you have to think about it, you 640 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: have to almost live it. And there's someone who I 641 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: literally see do that all the time on and off 642 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: the field. You're talking about sacks and pass rushing and 643 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: joking about it and being serious about it. So I 644 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: just think you're a true mass of your craft, man, 645 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you got to break it down for people. Yes, sir, 646 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I appreciate your time, my guy. So 647 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: go take that and that man, I will. I'm thinking 648 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: that so ful. I'm gonna see you know. I love you. Yes, 649 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us on the NFL Players Podcast. Don't 650 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: forget to subscribe and follow at NFL Players Podcast on 651 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: Instagram for the latest players stories and to connect with 652 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: the NFL Players community.