WEBVTT - Unearthed! In Spring 2026, Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy be Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm Holly Frye. This is part two of our

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<v Speaker 2>latest installment of Unearthed, where we talk about things that

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<v Speaker 2>have been literally and figuratively unearthed over the last few months.

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<v Speaker 2>In this part two, we have animals, artwork, edibles and potables, shipwrecks,

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<v Speaker 2>and then, as always kicking it off with some random

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that I call popery because jeopardy.

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<v Speaker 1>A six month long excavation in England, about ten miles

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<v Speaker 1>south of Hadrian's Wall has unearthed at least eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>wet stones dating back about two thousand years to the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman era. There are probably hundreds more still to be

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<v Speaker 1>discovered at the site. Before this find, only about two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty wetstones had been found in the entirety

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<v Speaker 1>of Britain and Ireland.

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<v Speaker 2>This was probably a whetstone factory in an industrial area,

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<v Speaker 2>and the stone to make the whetstones may have been

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<v Speaker 2>quarried from the northern bank of the river near where

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<v Speaker 2>all of this was found. The surviving whetstones at this

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<v Speaker 2>site all seem to have been broken or incorrectly cut,

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<v Speaker 2>which means that these are the cast offs, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>likely that many many more intact whetstones were transported out

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<v Speaker 2>of this area to the coast and then from there

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<v Speaker 2>to other parts of the Roman Empire. Now I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of want other research tracing the origins of the stone

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<v Speaker 2>in other whetstones found elsewhere in what had been Roman territory.

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<v Speaker 2>Research published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of

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<v Speaker 2>Sciences has looked at the genetic legacy of the Mongol Empire,

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<v Speaker 2>especially rulingly from the group known as the Golden Horde

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<v Speaker 2>in Central Eurasia. The Golden Horde was founded by Genghis

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<v Speaker 2>Khan's eldest son Joshi and his descendants. Local law in

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<v Speaker 2>Kazakhstan has suggested that one of the four Golden Horde

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<v Speaker 2>tombs that was analyzed in the study was that of

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<v Speaker 2>Djoshi and his family. According to this research, these elites

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<v Speaker 2>descended primarily from ancient Northeast Asians, with some ancestry from

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<v Speaker 2>ancient North Eurasian and Scythian populations. Genetic research on the

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<v Speaker 2>remains from the four tombs suggests that the males had

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<v Speaker 2>y chromosomes, from a particular ancestral branch that originated on

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<v Speaker 2>the Mongolian Plateau. Many people living in Central Eurasia today

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<v Speaker 2>have this cluster of DNA as part of their genome.

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<v Speaker 1>However, this research also raises some questions about the popularly

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<v Speaker 1>held ie idea that one out of every two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>men is related to Ginghis Khan. Researchers also ran comparisons

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<v Speaker 1>to modern DNA and didn't find this why chromosome cluster

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<v Speaker 1>as frequently in modern populations as it is in the

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<v Speaker 1>men buried in these tombs. Researchers also noted that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have Ginghis Khan's DNA to go on. While Joshi

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<v Speaker 1>and his father would certainly have had some similarities in

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<v Speaker 1>their genomes, we don't know whether that would include this

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<v Speaker 1>specific cluster. And Lastly, researchers in Hungary have been studying

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty five skeletons from two Neolithic cemeteries,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at patterns and how these people were buried and

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<v Speaker 1>what that can tell us about gender roles and among

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<v Speaker 1>these people. These remains date back about seven thousand years,

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<v Speaker 1>so they examined the bones themselves, looking for evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>wear that could tell us about these peoples, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little about what kind of work they might have done,

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<v Speaker 1>and they also looked at the positions the people were

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<v Speaker 1>buried in and what kinds of grave goods they were

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<v Speaker 1>buried with. At one of the cemeteries, there wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of variation in how people were buried. In general,

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<v Speaker 1>the people buried at this cemetery seemed to have done

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<v Speaker 1>harder physical work, but those patterns didn't vary by sex either.

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<v Speaker 1>At the other site, though, things seemed to be structured

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<v Speaker 1>along clearer lines of gender roles. Most of the female

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<v Speaker 1>skeletons were buried on their left side with shell beads,

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<v Speaker 1>and then most of the male skeletons were buried on

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<v Speaker 1>their right side and they had stone tools. There were

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<v Speaker 1>also two male skeletons and five female skeletons that departed

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<v Speaker 1>from this pattern. In one case, there was a female

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<v Speaker 1>skeleton buried with stone tools, and the wear on her

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<v Speaker 1>towbone showed that she did a lot of kneeling. That

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<v Speaker 1>was something that was more common among the male skeletons.

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<v Speaker 1>There was not anything to suggest that this person had

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of unique social position, but these findings do

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that there were people living in this community thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago who weren't aligned with the typical pattern

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<v Speaker 1>of gender and gender roles in their area. This paper

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<v Speaker 1>was titled Fixed and Fluid the Two Faces of Gender Roles,

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<v Speaker 1>A combined study of activity patterns and burial practices in

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<v Speaker 1>the European Neolithic.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we are going to move on to some animal finds.

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<v Speaker 2>A bone found at a site in Cordoba, Spain in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty may be the first direct evidence of war

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<v Speaker 2>elephants from the Punic War period. There are historical depictions

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<v Speaker 2>of elephants being used in the Punic Wars, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are depictions on things like coins. They have most often

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<v Speaker 2>been associated with Carthaginian general Hannibal, but until this point

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<v Speaker 2>there has not been physical evidence of actual war elephants.

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<v Speaker 1>This small bone was compared to the bones of mammoths

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<v Speaker 1>and modern elephants, and radiocarbon dating placed it in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth or third centuries BCE, which is when the Punic

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<v Speaker 1>Wars took place. There were also several military related objects

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<v Speaker 1>found at the site, like artillery projectiles, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>coins and ceramics.

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<v Speaker 2>Reading through this research, it does not seem like this

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<v Speaker 2>identification is one hundred percent certain they did compare it

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<v Speaker 2>to mammoths and elephant bones, but the bones condition is

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<v Speaker 2>too poor for DNA to be extracted from it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's also possible that it was brought to the area

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<v Speaker 2>as a trade good rather than in the body of

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<v Speaker 2>a living war elephant moving on. A burial site in

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<v Speaker 2>northern Norway has been found to contain the body of

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<v Speaker 2>a Viking age woman who was buried along with her dog.

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<v Speaker 2>This discovery was made by a couple of people who

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<v Speaker 2>were searching the area with metal detectors and contacted authorities

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<v Speaker 2>about what they found. The woman and the dog were

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<v Speaker 2>buried together in a boat, along with tools, a weaving sword,

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<v Speaker 2>a wetstone, and a sickle. Next, there is a traditional

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<v Speaker 2>Irish breed of goat that is known as the Old

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<v Speaker 2>Irish goat, which just delights me such a simple, straightforward name.

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<v Speaker 2>This goat is bred for both meat and milk. According

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<v Speaker 2>to research published in the Journal of Archaeological Science, today's

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<v Speaker 2>Old Irish goats have a continuous lineage stretching back to

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<v Speaker 2>at least the Late Bronze Age roughly eleven hundred to

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred BCE. This conclusion came from analysis of goat

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<v Speaker 2>remains at an iron Age Hill Fort. These are the

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<v Speaker 2>oldest goat remains found in Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>The old Irish goat is a rare breed today and

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<v Speaker 1>there are small faral herds of them in parts of Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild goats play a part in Irish folklore, so these

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<v Speaker 1>goats have an ongoing connection to Irish culture and history

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<v Speaker 1>and animal domestication and husbandry in Ireland.

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<v Speaker 2>According to research published in the journal Nature Communications, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a sophisticated long distance trading network for parrots in

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<v Speaker 2>the Andes Mountains in coastal Peru that predated the establishment

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<v Speaker 2>of the Inca Empire. This conclusion came from analysis on

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<v Speaker 2>parrot feathers from Pachacomic, which was a religious center that

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<v Speaker 2>was well outside the bird's native range. Researchers used DNA sequencing,

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<v Speaker 2>isotope chemistry, and computational landscape modeling to determine where the

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<v Speaker 2>birds came from and where they were taken. In the

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<v Speaker 2>words of doctor George Ollah from the Australian National University

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<v Speaker 2>A and You, who is the paper's lead author, quote

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<v Speaker 2>our ancient habitat modeling confirmed that the western side of

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<v Speaker 2>the Andes was just as inhospitable to these species one

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<v Speaker 2>thousand years ago as it is today. These parrots are

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<v Speaker 2>strictly rainforest dwellers, with a natural home range of around

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty kilometers. The fact that they ended

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<v Speaker 2>up more than five hundred kilometers away on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of South America's highest mountain range proves human intervention.

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<v Speaker 2>They do not naturally fly over the Andes. Researchers from

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Liverpool have published work on the development

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<v Speaker 2>and spread of early domesticated dogs. This includes work from

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<v Speaker 2>a rock shelter in Anatolia where people and dogs stayed

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<v Speaker 2>together roughly fifteen thousand, eight hundred years ago. These people

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<v Speaker 2>buried their dead, and they also buried their dogs in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that was very similar to human burials.

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Doug Baird of the University of Liverpool was quoted

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<v Speaker 1>as saying the archaeology makes clear that these dogs were

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<v Speaker 1>close companions of humans. Isotope analysis showing the dogs ate fish,

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<v Speaker 1>a major element of the human diet, and like humans,

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<v Speaker 1>were carefully buried in the rock shelter near human burial,

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<v Speaker 1>thereby receiving ritualized treatment analogous to the humans. These people

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<v Speaker 1>hunted animals like wild sheep and dangerous wild cattle, so

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<v Speaker 1>it seems likely that these animals were hunting, but also

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<v Speaker 1>possibly guard dogs, given the presence of large predators like

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<v Speaker 1>wolves and leopards in Central Anatolia at that time. And lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a depiction of an animal. A hiker on

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<v Speaker 1>the island of Majorca in Spain found a tiny bronze

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<v Speaker 1>bull's head. It is roughly three thousand years old. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of only four more such skull representations ever

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<v Speaker 1>found on the island, and it is little. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>little more than an inch long. This hiker delivered the

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<v Speaker 1>fine two authorities and the plan is for it to

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<v Speaker 1>be placed in a museum. It is time to take

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<v Speaker 1>a little sponsor break and then we'll be back to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about art.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now for some art. A professor who specializes in

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<v Speaker 2>rock art research has partnered with traditional owners in Australia

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<v Speaker 2>to study fourteen newly documented images of the extinct Tasmanian

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<v Speaker 2>tiger or thyloside. These images are from two different locations

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<v Speaker 2>in Northern Territory. There are also pictures of Tasmanian devils. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>Tasmanian devils live only on Tasmania, but they used to

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<v Speaker 2>live on the Australian mainland as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They look nothing like that cartoon.

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<v Speaker 2>They really don't as and Tasmanian tigers don't look that

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<v Speaker 2>much like tigers either. Some of these artworks are believed

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<v Speaker 2>to be less than a thousand years old, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Tasmanian devil is believed to have been extinct on the

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<v Speaker 2>mainland three thousand years ago. This has raised some questions

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<v Speaker 2>about whether the paintings were made by someone who had

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<v Speaker 2>seen a living Tasmanian devil, meaning that they survived longer

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<v Speaker 2>on the mainland than was previously thought. The paper on

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<v Speaker 2>this find, which was published in the journal Archaeology in Oceania,

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<v Speaker 2>also includes information from Aboriginal oral histories about these animals

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<v Speaker 2>and their cultural importance. In other rock art news, researchers

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<v Speaker 2>in France have used carbon fourteen dating to directly estimate

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<v Speaker 2>the age of several pieces of.

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<v Speaker 1>Black line art.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first time carbon fourteen dating has been

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<v Speaker 2>used directly off art in this region because it was

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<v Speaker 2>believed that all of the pigments that were used were

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<v Speaker 2>made of metals that didn't contain any carbon, so there

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<v Speaker 2>would have been no carbon fourteen to test.

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<v Speaker 1>This team used non invasive methods to test the composition

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<v Speaker 1>of the pigments used in two figures. They found traces

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<v Speaker 1>of charcoal, and the distribution of the charcoal was consistent

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<v Speaker 1>enough that it seemed like part of the pigment and

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<v Speaker 1>not like contamination from some of their point in history.

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<v Speaker 1>They extracted extremely small amounts of this pigment for testing

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<v Speaker 1>and concluded that one of the figures dates to about

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen thousand years before the present, while the other had

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<v Speaker 1>pigment that seemed to come from two different time periods,

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<v Speaker 1>the first about eighty five hundred years before the present

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<v Speaker 1>and the other more likely fifteen thousand years before the present.

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<v Speaker 1>It is possible that this was an older artwork that

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<v Speaker 1>was retouched or altered thousands of years later. A painting

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<v Speaker 1>by Italian Renaissance artist sophonisba Anguisola was thought to have

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<v Speaker 1>been lost, but has now resurfaced. It turns out it

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<v Speaker 1>was bought by a private collector in nineteen seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 1>The painting's current owners are relatives of the person who

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<v Speaker 1>bought it, and they looked into the painting's history after

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a lecture on the artist, which was presented by

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<v Speaker 1>the National Gallery of Art in twenty twenty four. This

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<v Speaker 1>painting was publicly displayed for the first time since then

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<v Speaker 1>this past February. This portrait is called Portrait of a

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<v Speaker 1>canon Regular and it depicts a clergyman whose identity is unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophonisba Anguisola was one of the few women artists to

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<v Speaker 1>become really recognized during the Renaissance, and fewer than twenty

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<v Speaker 1>signed paintings of hers have survived until today.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of resurfaced Renaissance art, a previously unknown postcard sized

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<v Speaker 2>drawing by German Renaissance artist Hans Baldengrin has been found

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<v Speaker 2>among the possessions of the descendants of Susannah Fefinger, who

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<v Speaker 2>sat for this portrait back in fifteen seventeen. The portrait

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<v Speaker 2>was done in silver point on paper that was treated

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<v Speaker 2>with bone powder, and it was part of a collection

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<v Speaker 2>of artwork that the family had taken in for valuation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the only known silver point work from this

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<v Speaker 2>artist that is still in a private collection. Back in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three, a mold was found at an archaeological

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<v Speaker 2>site at a Slavic hillfort in Spandau, which is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the burrows of Berlin today. This mold would have

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<v Speaker 2>been used to cast a small devotional object in the

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<v Speaker 2>shape of a wheel cross or a cross that's in

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<v Speaker 2>a circle. In January, a find was announced from a

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<v Speaker 2>site in Javelan, Germany, roughly seventy kilometers away, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a bronze wheel cross that was made with the mold,

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<v Speaker 2>which was found by a volunteer using a metal detector.

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<v Speaker 2>These date back to the tenth or eleventh century and

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<v Speaker 2>they're two of the oldest Christian artifacts in the region,

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<v Speaker 2>dating back to when it was first being Christianized. Archaeologists

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<v Speaker 2>have found fragments of decorated ostrich egg shells at sites

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<v Speaker 2>in Namibia and South Africa. These shells were used as

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<v Speaker 2>water vessels more than sixty thousand years ago, and people

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<v Speaker 2>decorated them by engraving them. Researchers analyzed the engravings on

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twelve fragments and found that eighty of

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<v Speaker 2>them had what they described as coherent special regularities. That is,

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<v Speaker 2>they had patterns of parallel lines or patterns of the

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<v Speaker 2>same angle being used over and over. Some of them

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<v Speaker 2>had repeating grids and diamond shaped motifs, which are the

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<v Speaker 2>most complex designs patterns are very consistent. They showed an

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<v Speaker 2>ability not only to repeat an etching consistently, but also

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<v Speaker 2>to plan it out so that these patterns and lines

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<v Speaker 2>would cover the desired space in a regular way over

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<v Speaker 2>the curved surface of an ostrich egg So this is

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<v Speaker 2>basically more advanced thinking than might have been expected from

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<v Speaker 2>people who were living sixty thousand years ago. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I could just plan out in my head a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of etchings on an ostrich eggshell and have it

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<v Speaker 2>come out evenly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet if you did it a bunch you could

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<v Speaker 2>maybe eventually with a lot of practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's mastery. We are going to wrap up our

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<v Speaker 1>art talk with some art acquisitions that made headlines over

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<v Speaker 1>the last few months. The Italian government paid almost thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollars for a Caravaggio portrait. The portrait of

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<v Speaker 1>Monsignor Maffeo Barbrini, who would later become Pope Urban the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth had been on loan to the Palazzo Barberini in Rome.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the permanent collection at the Palazzo. The National

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<v Speaker 2>Gallery of Arts in Washington, d C. Has acquired Mary

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<v Speaker 2>Magdalen in Ecstasy by past podcast subject Artemisia Gentileski. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the first Gentileeskie painting in the museum's collection and.

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<v Speaker 1>A museum I love desperately. The Dali Museum in Saint Petersburg,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida acquired Salvador Dali's largest painting at auction for two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred ninety three thousand, two hundred forty dollars. This painting

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<v Speaker 1>was a strange landscape created as a stage set for Bacchanal,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a surrealist ballet that premiered at the Metropolitan

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<v Speaker 1>Opera in New York in nineteen thirty nine. It is

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<v Speaker 1>made of thirteen panels and four canvases and measures sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five by one hundred feet. Dali also wrote a libretto

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<v Speaker 1>and designed costumes for this production.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we will get into the edibles and potables, which

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<v Speaker 2>are always one of my favorites. The four corners potato

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<v Speaker 2>is a small, nutritionally very dense potato that people in

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<v Speaker 2>southwestern North America have been growing for millennia.

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<v Speaker 1>Today it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Still eaten and used for spiritual and medicinal purposes. Research

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<v Speaker 2>published in the journal plus one has looked at its

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<v Speaker 2>history and early domestication by both examining more than four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred stone tools and by interviewing indigenous elders.

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<v Speaker 1>Those tools came from fourteen archaeological sites beyond the Four

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<v Speaker 1>Corners Potatoes natural range. The team looked at large slabs

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<v Speaker 1>and handheld stones used for grinding and found microscopic potato

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<v Speaker 1>starch granules on tools from nine of the fourteen sites.

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<v Speaker 1>Four of the site showed consistent use of the potato

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<v Speaker 1>stretching as far back as ten t thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope and Denay elders who were interviewed nearly all had

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of this potato and Denay women, in particular, new

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<v Speaker 2>techniques on how to process and prepare them to make

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<v Speaker 2>them less bitter. Denay doctoral candidate Cynthia Wilson, who's a

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<v Speaker 2>co author of this study, was quoted as saying, quote

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<v Speaker 2>the mobility of indigenous food ways was driven by kinship

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<v Speaker 2>based practices across the landscape. Indigenous knowledge holders, especially matrilineal women,

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<v Speaker 2>held onto these seedlings and stories across generations to sustain

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<v Speaker 2>ties to ancestral land and food ways. This research combines

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<v Speaker 2>with other work to suggest the Indigenous people in the

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<v Speaker 2>American Southwest domesticated the Four Corners potato. This contradicts earlier

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<v Speaker 2>assumptions that the domesticated crops grown in the Southwest were

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<v Speaker 2>not domesticated there, but were domesticated in America and then

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<v Speaker 2>introduced from there. This new information also augments other research

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<v Speaker 2>and suggests that now perhaps agave, barley, and amaranths were

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<v Speaker 2>all cultivated in North America. Researchers working at sites in

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<v Speaker 2>what's now Ukraine have used the preserved proteins and dental

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<v Speaker 2>calculus to confirm that Iron age Scythians consumed milk from

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<v Speaker 2>horses as well as from cattle, sheep, and goats. There

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<v Speaker 2>are historical accounts describing Scythians as consuming mayre's milk, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is the first physical evidence of that. Only one

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<v Speaker 2>of the twenty eight individuals in the study showed evidence

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<v Speaker 2>of consuming horse milk, so it doesn't seem like something

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<v Speaker 2>that was common, at least among this particular group of people.

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<v Speaker 2>It is possible that the proteins in horse milk did

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<v Speaker 2>not survive as well in the dental calculus as proteins.

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<v Speaker 1>From the milk of other animals. Since the Scythians are

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<v Speaker 1>becoming understood as a culturally and ethnically diverse group rather

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<v Speaker 1>than more of a homogeneous culture. It is possible that

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<v Speaker 1>there were also cultural differences involved, or there could have

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<v Speaker 1>been cultural factors involved, and who was caring for the

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<v Speaker 1>horses and thus who was consuming horse milk.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone at an estate sale in Minnesota found a silver

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<v Speaker 2>pap boat and recognized it as the work of nineteenth

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<v Speaker 2>century silversmith Peter Benson, who was born in Saint Croix

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<v Speaker 2>and later moved to Philadelphia. He was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first known silversmiths of African descent in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Fewer than thirty pieces made by Benson are known to

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<v Speaker 2>have survived until today, and they are identifiable through a

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<v Speaker 2>hallmark which he used to see their pee Benson or

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<v Speaker 2>as his initials. So a pap boat is a little

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<v Speaker 2>like a gravy boat, but it was used to feed

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<v Speaker 2>a thin porridge or pap to babies and too sick people.

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<v Speaker 1>This pap boat was purchased at the estate sale for

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<v Speaker 1>forty dollars and then it was sold at auction for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four thousand dollars. The buyer was reportedly a prominent

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<v Speaker 1>American institution, but that institution has not been named.

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<v Speaker 2>Research published in the journal plus one has used a

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<v Speaker 2>combination of techniques to look at the residues left on

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<v Speaker 2>pottery dating back to the third through the sixth millennium BCE.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about food residues on pottery fairly often on

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<v Speaker 2>unearthed but often the focus is on fatty residues, and

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<v Speaker 2>that largely limits the results to residues that came from animals.

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<v Speaker 2>This research used a combination of techniques, including microscopic examination

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<v Speaker 2>and chemical analysis to try to instead look for plant residues.

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<v Speaker 2>This involved fifty eight pieces of pottery from thirteen archaeological

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<v Speaker 2>sites across northern and eastern US. The team found tissue

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.360
<v Speaker 2>samples from an assortment of plants, including grasses, berries, leaves,

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 2>and seeds. Often there were animal remains as well, most

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<v Speaker 2>often fish or some other kind of seafood. The combination

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<v Speaker 2>of ingredients seemed to vary, but suggested that people had

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<v Speaker 2>already developed complex culinary traditions by this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes people imagine people from thousands and thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago just like spearing a fish on a

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<v Speaker 2>stick and charring it over a fire. This was more

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<v Speaker 2>nuanced than that.

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<v Speaker 1>They were very picky about their plating.

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<v Speaker 2>Grounds keeper working on a golf course in England noticed

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<v Speaker 2>a sinkhole that had turned out to be a brick

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<v Speaker 2>wine cellar that was abandoned more than one hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>This wine cellar probably belonged to a manner in the

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<v Speaker 2>area that was torn down at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteenth century. The cellar so was full of wine and

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<v Speaker 2>port models which were now empty. I was unclear on

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<v Speaker 2>whether they were empty when the wine cellar was abandoned,

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<v Speaker 2>or whether their corks degraded at what was inside evaporated

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<v Speaker 2>or spilled, or what exactly. For now, though, the cellar

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 2>has been sealed up while the staff at the golf

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>course figure out what they should do about it make.

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<v Speaker 1>It a gaming room. Speaking of wine, research published in

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<v Speaker 1>the journal Nature has looked at four thousand years of

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<v Speaker 1>viticulture in France. This has involved extracting DNA from forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine grape seeds found at various archaeological sites. The oldest

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 1>came from wild grape vines, but what is being described

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<v Speaker 1>as essentially identical to pino noir grapes that are grown today.

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<v Speaker 1>That one came from a toilet at a fifteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>hospital at Valenciennes in northern France. This suggests that people

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>have been propagating grapes through cloning for more than five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years. Researchers have studied maize or corn samples in

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five tombs from the Chincha Valley and they found

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<v Speaker 1>that the samples had exceptionally high levels of nitrogen. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot more nitrogen in them than could have

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<v Speaker 1>just come from the soil in the area. So this

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that the Chincha Kingdom, which lived in what's now

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<v Speaker 1>Peru before the development of the Inca Empire, fertilized its crops,

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<v Speaker 1>probably with seabird guatto that was harvested from the Chincha Islands.

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<v Speaker 1>Researchers believe this use of fertilizer was a factor in

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<v Speaker 1>how this kingdom became one of the wealthiest and most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful societies in their era. Basically, they had crops that

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot better yield than some of their neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>as part of how they became wealthy. Hey, hey, it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost time for everybody's favorite shipwrecks. The first going to

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<v Speaker 1>pause and have a sponsor break.

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<v Speaker 2>We will close out this installment of Unearthed with some shipwrecks.

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<v Speaker 2>Divers have been exploring the site of a Roman shipwreck

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<v Speaker 2>on the bottom of Lake Nukatel in Switzerland. This ship

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<v Speaker 2>sank roughly two thousand years ago and the vessel itself

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<v Speaker 2>has decayed, but the cargo it was carrying is mostly intact.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a merchant vessel and it was carrying hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of pieces of ceramic tableware and m fora that were

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<v Speaker 2>carrying Spanish olive oil. There were also wheels, harnesses and

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 2>swords that may have been connected to the vessel, possibly

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 2>having guards or a military escort on board. This wreck

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<v Speaker 2>is being described as unique among inland shipwrecks, and its

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<v Speaker 2>cargo is expected to be exhibited in a museum once

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<v Speaker 2>it's recovered.

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<v Speaker 1>Maritime archaeologists from the Viking Ship Museum in Denmark have

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<v Speaker 1>announced the discovery of the world's largest cog in the

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<v Speaker 1>Strait between Denmark and Sweden. The cog was a type

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<v Speaker 1>of cargo ship that was developed in the late twelfth

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>century and it really revolutionized maritime trade, allowing small crews

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>of sailors to handle ships that had an enormous carrying

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>capacity relatively speaking. This one was probably built around fourteen ten,

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<v Speaker 1>based on the tree rings in its timbers, and it

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<v Speaker 1>had a capacity of about three hundred tons. It was

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<v Speaker 1>made from timber that came from what's now Poland and

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands, with large timbers being shipped to the Netherlands

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>where the vessel was built. This wreck has also provided

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<v Speaker 1>direct evidence that some cogs had high castles at the

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<v Speaker 1>bow and the stern. These had been documented through things

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>like illustrations and written to descriptions of cogs, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time that these structures have survived in

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<v Speaker 1>an actual wreck. Often because of the conditions in this

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>part of the world, all that remains of the vessel

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<v Speaker 1>by the time it's discovered underwater is just the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>If that this wreck is also just very well preserved,

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<v Speaker 1>with parts of its riggings still intact. Part of the

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<v Speaker 1>galley has also survived, and items found on board include

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen items like bronze pots, tablewear and bowls, as well

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>as sailors personal items like shoes and combs, and even

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<v Speaker 1>rosary beads. But no cargo has been found with this wreck.

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<v Speaker 2>It is possible that it was carrying goods in barrels

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<v Speaker 2>and that those barrels may have floated away after the

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 2>ship sank. Denmark's Viking Ship Museum has also announced the

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<v Speaker 2>discovery of the wreck of the Danibroge, which was sunk

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<v Speaker 2>by the British Navy during the Battle of Copenhagen in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen oh one. This this was the flagship of the

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Danish Norwegian fleet, and it caught fire and exploded after

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>the British Navy struck it.

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<v Speaker 1>This announcement was made on the two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>fifth anniversary of the battle, which was April second, So

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<v Speaker 1>technically this was a second quarter find, but just on

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. But both this and the Cog were found

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<v Speaker 1>and studied as part of advanced work ahead of construction

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<v Speaker 1>of an artificial island that will both act as a

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<v Speaker 1>new housing district and worked to mitigate the threat of

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<v Speaker 1>sea level rise.

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<v Speaker 2>The articles that I was reading about both of these

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<v Speaker 2>were written in English, but they were obviously like published

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<v Speaker 2>four people in Denmark and surrounding areas, and so they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really specify what was going on with this construction site.

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<v Speaker 2>And I kept being like, okay, but these are shipwrecks.

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<v Speaker 2>How are the shipwrecks a construction site? And the answer

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<v Speaker 2>is building an island?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Which sounds fascinating. Maritime archaeologists have published findings from the

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>excavations of a shipwreck off the coast of Singapore. The

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>excavations were carried out in sort of phases between twenty

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen and twenty nineteen. They recovered three point five tons

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<v Speaker 2>of broken ceramic and a few intact ceramic pieces. This

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>wreck is being described as the first ancient shipwreck ever

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 2>found in Singapore waters, and the cargo dates back to

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<v Speaker 2>the fourteenth century Yon Dynasty.

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<v Speaker 1>Much of this cargo was blue and white ceramic. There

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<v Speaker 1>was more of this style of ceramic that has been

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<v Speaker 1>found in any other shipwreck in the world. There were

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<v Speaker 1>also a number of other styles of ceramic represented. The

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>ship's hull has not survived, but it's believed to have

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<v Speaker 1>been a Chinese junk that was bound for Temasek, which

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<v Speaker 1>was the port that preceded the establishment of modern Singapore.

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>The wreck of the Lac LaBelle has been found on

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<v Speaker 2>the floor of Lake Michigan, almost exactly one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years after it disappeared in a storm that was

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<v Speaker 2>in seventeen eighty two, and a shipwreck hunter spotted it

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two. But the find of the wreck

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<v Speaker 2>was not announced until earlier this year because its discoverer

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to create a three D model of the wreckage.

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<v Speaker 2>Four other people learned where it was.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lach LaBelle was sailing from Milwaukee, Wisconsin and Grand Haven, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>carrying both passengers and cargo, and it started to leak

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<v Speaker 1>about two hours into the trip across the lake. The

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<v Speaker 1>ship turned back to Milwaukee but foundered in the stormy weather.

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<v Speaker 1>The passengers were moved to lifeboats before the ship sank,

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<v Speaker 1>although eight people drowned when one of the lifeboats capsized.

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<v Speaker 2>Storms that struck the UK in late January may have

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<v Speaker 2>exposed the timbers of a seventeenth century shipwreck. The ship

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>sank off the coast of southern England and it made

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<v Speaker 2>the Fame, which was a Dutch merchant vessel that sank

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<v Speaker 2>in sixteen thirty one. Other parts of this wreck had

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>already been discovered underwater in the Swash Channel, and there

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>had been some research work at that wreck site. But

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>these timbers that the storm exposed on the beach might

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 2>be part of the hull that was missing people could

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 2>not find when they did that earlier work. The plan

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>is to take these timbers to a conservation lab and

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<v Speaker 2>take some samples from it to compare what they found

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<v Speaker 2>on the beach with what they found underwater to see

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<v Speaker 2>if it matches.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, we have talked about the Parthenon marbles on

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<v Speaker 1>the show before. In March, it was announced that last

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<v Speaker 1>year the Greek Ministry of Culture reclaimed a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>the Parthenon that had been removed by Lord Elgin to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken to the UK. There recovered pieces did not

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<v Speaker 1>come straight from England, though it came from the wreck

0:33:55.360 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>of elginship Mentor, which sank in eighteen oh two. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a small piece of marble that is believed to

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>have been part of a beam or a roof of

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<v Speaker 1>the Parthenon. Seventeen crates of marbles were recovered from the

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 1>shipwreck by Elgin Secretary, So most of the Greek Ministry

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>of Culture's discoveries of the site have been remnants of

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<v Speaker 1>the ship itself and items like everyday pottery.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciated how the recovery of this tiny piece

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<v Speaker 2>of marble was hailed as like a giant success because

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>of all that context around the Parthenon marbles and the shipwreck.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it for this installment of Unearthed, with the exception

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<v Speaker 2>of some listener mail, I have a listener mail from Whitney.

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<v Speaker 2>Whitney wrote, Hi, there, my family and I recently went

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<v Speaker 2>to the Titanic exhibit at the Oregon Museum of Science

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and Industry in Portland, and thanks to your wonderful podcast,

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I was able to impress one of the people working

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<v Speaker 2>at the exhibit. While walking around looking at the artifacts,

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<v Speaker 2>a museum employee came up to me with a replica

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<v Speaker 2>of a life jacket that was have been on the

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<v Speaker 2>Titanic and asked me if I wanted to wear it.

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<v Speaker 2>I of course said yes, and the employee mentioned how

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<v Speaker 2>the life jacket was heavier than the ones we use nowadays.

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<v Speaker 2>When he asked me what I thought the life jacket

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<v Speaker 2>was made out of, without hesitation, I said cork. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember the specific podcast episode or really much of

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<v Speaker 2>the details, but I remember you guys covering a story

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<v Speaker 2>of a shipwreck that happened near the shore. There weren't

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<v Speaker 2>enough lifejackets, so people on board fought each other to

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<v Speaker 2>get one, but due to the life jackets being old

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>and made of cork and I think having previously been used,

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.720
<v Speaker 2>the unfortunate individuals who had a lifejacket ended up sinking

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 2>and drowning instead of floating and slafe fleet making it

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<v Speaker 2>to shore. When I correctly answered the question, the museum

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>employee did a double take and told me I was

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<v Speaker 2>the only person that day to have correctly answered the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Although I must admit it was still pretty early in

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>the day and I only knew the answer because of

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 2>you two. It was a small thing but really made

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>my day. I know that you guys love animals, so

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I've also included a picture of my mom's favorite child,

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<v Speaker 2>little Bear. Little Bear was very upset about not getting

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the museum. Thanks so much for all

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 2>you do. I love learning and I have been a

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 2>big fan of your podcast for years. Sincerely, Whitney, we

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 2>have a very cute little white, white scruffy dogs, little Bear.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to refresh my memory about which episode that

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 2>was about the life jackets made of cork. I have

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<v Speaker 2>already forgotten which episode it was, and that was like

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>two hours ago that I went and looked it up.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the issue was that some of the life jackets.

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<v Speaker 2>The cover on the life jacket had deteriorated and let

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 2>water get in some of them, it was that the

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>cork had deteriorated. Yeah, so when water permeated through the

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>life jacket, like the material on the outside, it just

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 2>soaked into the cork and became heavy, which is terrible. Yeah,

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 2>it was not no longer buoyant cork, just porous cork. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure. There was also a different shipwreck episode

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 2>where the life jackets had been standardized by weight. There

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>was a weight requirement for how much cork, and so

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 2>some unscrupulous life jacket manufacturers had supplemented the weight of

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<v Speaker 2>their life jackets with iron bars, which're not buoyant. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>not even not even So thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>the email. I love to feel smart.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>What's that like? I don't know.

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Lately, lately I feel more like I'm sort of struggling.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember being at the Bookbinders Museum in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>and the docent asked me what I thought the apprentices

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 2>had used to clean the things that they were using,

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I don't know, probably urine, and

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 2>that was right, and I felt very smart. So I

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 2>feel a kinship with Whitney with this email. If you

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