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Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. Since this is where car

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Speaker 1: We're looking for heat. Where there's heat, there's there's current flow,

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, sir. I'm good to have him. It's

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Speaker 1: pronounced it healthy. I want to see that it works.

426
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: I want to test it. So from the car, then

427
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: the next place I would go is I would grab

428
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: a scan tool and I would start looking at sensors

429
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: to see what looks amiss. Now, the O b D

430
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: one that's kind of limited. What they're gonna give you

431
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: is well, it's limited in terms of what we can

432
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: see versus O b D two, But in terms of

433
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: O b D one, I fixed O b D one

434
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: cars for twenty years before O b D two came out.

435
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: We fixed tons of them using a scan tool. All right.

436
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: The other thing, or the other thing you can do

437
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: is you're gonna get a voultmeter. Every most of those

438
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: were three wire sensors. You're gonna get a voltmeter, and

439
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna start to look at individual sensors and compare voltages.

440
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: But what I want to know is when you go

441
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: to start that, I want to know do the coolant

442
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: and intake temper sentencers after the car sat for more

443
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: than eight hours? Do they typically run within ten to

444
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: twelve degrees of each other? In this case? Is voltage

445
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: roughly the same? If you don't want to use a

446
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: scan tool, I want to take a hard look at TPS.

447
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: At the throttle position censor. You've got three wires there.

448
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: One's gonna be five vault reference, one's gonna be a ground,

449
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: and one's gonna be signaled out of the TPS, it

450
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: should be about half of all, all right. And I

451
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: kind of want to know that because just because it

452
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: hasn't said a fault code, because O b D one

453
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: is a lot stupider than O b D two. Just

454
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: because it hasn't said a fault code doesn't mean the

455
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: sensor can't be out of spec or create a running

456
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: issue and not set a code ground one oh two,

457
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: which is the main ignition ground if memory shuves me correct,

458
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: on the left front corner or the right rear corner,

459
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: depending upon where the car was built of the cylinder head.

460
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: That's the main ground ground one oh two. And it

461
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: has to be there, and it has to be good,

462
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: clean and tight. That's what I'm ring now, maybe because

463
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: it's plenty of RUSS from New England, right, Yeah, that's

464
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: when I saw Vermont come up. I said, Okay, the

465
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: rust belt and then take take a look at the negative.

466
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 1: Take a look at the negative battery cable where the

467
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: ground meets the fender and the ground meets the body.

468
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: I would definitely do a voltage drop test, and I

469
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: would definitely take a headlight, run one side of the

470
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: headlight to positive, and run the other leg of the

471
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: headlight to the ground at the ground, not at the

472
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: battery itself. In other words, load the circuit and see

473
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: doesn't cause it to light up? And how well does

474
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: it do? But those are the kind of things I'd

475
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: be looking for. Yeah, um no, I would have just

476
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 1: taken this thing down the grass. But there's only one

477
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: problem on the side of the mountain making Yeah, no,

478
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: I get it. Listen, I understand that part. I really do.

479
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: I just I just you know, you've probably got five

480
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: in this car, well maybe more working working on it. Yeah.

481
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: When the kid, the killer is run, it's all I

482
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: have to do is run this thing for eight hours

483
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: to take up Maine. I got a thirty thousand all

484
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: drugs train to put in this thing, and I just

485
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: can't get it there. Yeah, right, but I would, I would, um, well,

486
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: and you know, changing the drivetrain may not solve the

487
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: problem if the problem is somewhere sey eight thousand miles on.

488
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: It's getting also a third years shot, all right, So

489
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: but those are those are the things I would be

490
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: looking for, sir, all right, And I would. I would

491
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: try and get my hands on an O B D

492
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: one scan tool. There's tons of them on eBay, cheap enough. Well, yeah, okay,

493
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna get a lot more information than

494
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: I do on the onboard diagnosic system in this thing. Um,

495
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: you will get more, and you will be able. It's

496
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: a lot easier to manipulate the information. You know, in

497
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: that car, you're pushing buttons on the desk. Is it

498
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: is it? It was a c and heater and climate

499
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: control and all that back in right. Yeah, Um, it's

500
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to manipulate the data. And you know,

501
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's an O TC monitor four thousand, which

502
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: was the bread and butter tool back in the nineties

503
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: that we use because I've been looking for a combination

504
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: UM O B D two and one and I'm not

505
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: finding a whole lot out there that includes ob D one. Um.

506
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: And you know why all those cars are gone. A

507
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: lot of the manufacturers just uh you know, they didn't

508
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: support it. I'll tell you a tool that'll do it.

509
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: D O T C U UM uh Genesis or an EVA,

510
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: a Genesis EVA older tool. It's it's a legacy tool.

511
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna go away. Um. A matter of fact,

512
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: I've got three of them sitting around the shop. Uh

513
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, they're some of the scan tools that we have.

514
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: But I know for a fact there will be D

515
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: one and O B D two and um. Uh you know,

516
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: you just gotta get the cables. The reason the manufacturers

517
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: don't support O B D one in volume is because

518
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: there aren't enough of the cars out there to make

519
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: it worth their while because of the cost of cabling,

520
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: because for it's a different cable. Chryslers are different cable.

521
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Chryslers are different cable. And then you've got O, B

522
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: D two, so it's it's a whole another. So but

523
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: do those things. Gary, I'm up against the clock. Let

524
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: me run. If you need me, send me an email

525
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: Ron at Card Doctor show dot com. We'll be back

526
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back right on

527
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor. The phones are busy. Let's

528
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: get rolling. Let's go over and talk to Ray Lansing,

529
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: Michigan Chevy Traverse. Yes, Ray, Welcome to the Car Doctor.

530
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: How can I help you? Um, it's a i'mgoing problem

531
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: my head. I had had it into the dealership. It's

532
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: got about eighty three thousand miles on it. It UH problem.

533
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: I noticed that it's my wife's vehicle and I don't

534
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: normally drive it, and if I do, I don't go

535
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: great distances. But we took it on a trip twice

536
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: this year out to New Mexico and uh it acts

537
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: up the vote meter. We'll sit there and you you

538
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: started up and it'll run almost fifteen volts. Indicates Uh,

539
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: it's not. It's a weird volt metering. I'm just estimating.

540
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: And then after a while it will drop down to

541
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: thirteen volts, maybe even as low as twelve and a half.

542
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: And then even while we haven't had this issue lately,

543
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: but for a while we had it that it would

544
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: run about the middle and then it would surge. It

545
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: would buy you. You'd watch it and it just shake

546
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: a little bit the needlewood and you could feel the

547
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: vehicle surge. Let me ask Let me ask you a question.

548
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Ray as a vehicle ever not started as a vehicle

549
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: ever not started? Has it ever given you a dead

550
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: battery condition? No? Has we got it? When we got it,

551
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: it had forties thousand miles. Has has it ever had

552
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: UM any dash warning lights come on? Any fault error messages? Uh? Yeah,

553
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: we had a lot of bag problems with it, barebag signals.

554
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: We've had UM anything related to charging system? No, No,

555
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: let me, dealer did replace the alternator, okay, let me.

556
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: Let me didn't make any difference, and I wouldn't expect

557
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: it to. That vehicle has ep M electrical power management.

558
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: All right, are you aware of this? Uh? Not really?

559
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: If you look at your if you look at your battery.

560
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: There's an amp clamp around your positive battery cable. I

561
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: believe it's a positive memory serves me. Right. What they're

562
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: doing is and there's I think eight or nine stages

563
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: or modes of electrical power management. It's it's crazy, all right.

564
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: What they're doing is they're limiting how the charging system

565
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: operates and maintains voltage so that they can get components

566
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: to do other things in the interest of emissions and

567
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: fuel economy. All right. There's a startup mode, there's a

568
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: cruise mode, there's a charging system mode. Um. There's all

569
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: sorts of things going on here. And typical battery voltage

570
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: for this system will be twelve to fifteen volts. And

571
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: you know what, it's very detailed. Rate you have email,

572
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: Send me an email Ron at car doctor show dot com.

573
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: I sent this in originally on that Okay, send it

574
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: to me again. I'll make sure. I'll make sure because

575
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: I think we we picked your question because we wanted

576
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: to talk to you here on are But just send

577
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: it to me again and I will make sure I

578
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: send back to you the the the list, because I

579
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: think it's a good read and for anybody that's got

580
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: an ep M system. I'm amazed the dealer put an

581
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: alternator in it. They must have either it was under

582
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: warrant or they needed to sell an alternator that week,

583
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: because they should have explained this to you that you

584
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: will see anywhere from twelve and a half to fifteen

585
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: vaults cycle on your typical GM vehicle of this era,

586
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: not just traverses, but everything else. All right, sir, Okay,

587
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: my wife just right. My wife just said that it

588
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: was doing it a surging again. All right, Well, the

589
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: surge may be a separate issue unrelated to the charging

590
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: system full so well it does. I do notice that though,

591
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: that when the surge, when the voltage would fluctuate up

592
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: and I'm talking just minutes skule amount, you could feel

593
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: the vehicle increase right back off. It is the is

594
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: the engine speed going up causing the charging system to

595
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: increase or is the charging system increased causing the engine

596
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: speed to change? And I think I think I think

597
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: it's the latter versus the other. So send me an

598
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: email Rondo Car Doctor Show dot com. I'll send you

599
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: some information. We'll go from there zero. We're coming back

600
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: right after this, that kind of doctor rotating the car

601
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: doctorate your service. Let's get over to Adrian summer Setting,

602
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Adrian, I've got about two minutes. How canna help?

603
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for taking my call. Uh this

604
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: describing to the Run and Ady and School of Preventive

605
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Maintenance for many years thanks to your advice. And I thought,

606
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: Undie Stantus a two point four leader g d I

607
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: engine and I'm thinking about the carbon izing, it's about

608
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: ten thousand miles. What would you recommend, uh for a

609
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: g d I engine. We're we're I'm liking Berryman Berryman products.

610
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: I think they've got a real strong combination right now.

611
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: We were just we're talking about this a couple of

612
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: months ago, UM and after a lot of review, I

613
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: think for a g d I, I'm kind of leading

614
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: towards Berryman. I think they've got the strongest solution out there.

615
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: The other issue is stay on top of your oil changes.

616
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: Make sure whoever is doing the oil it needs exact

617
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: manufacturers specs. I can't stress that enough that they're finding

618
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: and a lot of the reports I read this weekend

619
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: class was all about UM exact requirements, exact specifications. I

620
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: couldn't help but think when I was if I'm picking

621
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: a motor oil today. Um, if I'm not using the

622
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: manufacturers branded motor oil Hyunday or Ford GM or whoever,

623
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: I want something like a pens oil. I definitely want

624
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: a pens oil because I know it's built to an

625
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: exact engineering spec um, right down to the nth degree.

626
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: I think that is going to become a huge factor,

627
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: uh in in the care in the upkeep of the car.

628
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: And if they tell you to change it at eight thousand,

629
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you to change it at six thousand,

630
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: because sooner's a little bit better than later. Actually been

631
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: using mobile one every and it's it's as long as

632
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: it's meat and spec. I'm okay with that too, but

633
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: absolutely positively all right, sir, You're very welcome, Adrian. End up,

634
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: by the way, more information at Berriman Products dot com

635
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: and you'll find it there. Oil comes back to the

636
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: key thing that you can still do to your car

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Speaker 1: while you can still do it to your car, So

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Speaker 1: I want you to think about that. Stop using cheap oil.

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Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let's see it. Seven