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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoons Stealer Nation, It's the Drive on a Friday

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Speaker 2: was Shooler Matt Williamson back in our studio, palacious home

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Speaker 2: here on this Friday as we put the bow on.

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Speaker 2: A wild week, a fun week, A couple of days

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Speaker 2: out there for the owners meetings in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean we laid it out quite well while

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Speaker 3: we were there. Got home late Wednesday night and back

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Speaker 3: at it. But a lot different feel, I mean than

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Speaker 3: where we were at last time I saw you.

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Speaker 2: It certainly was y. Yeah last time. I'm although the

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Speaker 2: weather's not too shabby here in western Pennsylvania, but it's

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Speaker 2: not quite the palm trees and everything that was out

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Speaker 2: there in Arizona. But yeah, we had had a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun. We told some of those stories. The owner's

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Speaker 2: dinner was incredible. We got our swag bags on the

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Speaker 2: final day. I nice I went through yesterday and took

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Speaker 2: everything out of the packaging.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm taking another package ride.

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Speaker 2: It all on because I might I might have brought

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Speaker 2: our guy TV one or two things that were a

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Speaker 2: little too big for me now in the in the

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Speaker 2: Nike swag bag and New Era and Fanatics and all

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Speaker 2: the different tailor made the giveaways that we got. Matt,

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Speaker 2: by my estimations, if you include the clothes we got

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Speaker 2: and the two really nice bags bags, and I yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it was like twelve hundred dollars thirteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: Worth nicea shoes, nice pair.

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Speaker 2: Of shoes, right eleven or twelve different Nike shorts and

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Speaker 2: pants and shirts and polos and quarter zips and hoodies.

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Speaker 3: And I mean for people are watching, it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a normal sized uffel bag, but it's you can't put

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Speaker 3: like one more thing, yeah, I mean they pack it

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Speaker 3: through the gills, you know, right, it's like thanks, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Plus a really nice duffel bag from Fanatics, a couple

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Speaker 2: on right now. Actually they're insanely comfortable. So yes, all

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Speaker 2: the all the selling that Matt Williamson did to me

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Speaker 2: of how cool these things were, yeah, I think I

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Speaker 2: think maybe you even undersold it and it over delivered.

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Speaker 2: Because it was my first owners meetings. It was a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun and the owners she said is a

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Speaker 2: really cool event, too unbelievable. You see a lot of

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Speaker 2: recognizable faces there and you know, got to got to

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Speaker 2: talk to McAfee for a minute, which was which was fun.

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Speaker 2: Resisted the urge to go tell Joe Buck that he

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Speaker 2: needs to do more seasons of Brockmeyer, which of course

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Speaker 2: is the fantastic television show with hankas area. Uh So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was a it was a lot of fun out there.

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Speaker 2: But we're happy to see our guy TV be back

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Speaker 2: here in the studio. Uh And we have got plenty

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Speaker 2: to hit on today, Matt as we always.

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Speaker 3: Show, and this will really kick in I think Monday

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Speaker 3: when we come back. But the draft is so soon.

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Speaker 2: We are now like twenty one, twenty days. It's twenty

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Speaker 2: days away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, it is twenty

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Speaker 2: days away actually, so plenty to get to. We will

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Speaker 2: have our typical mock draft Friday here. Yeah, we've done

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Speaker 2: one of those in a while. We'll continue to do

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Speaker 2: those on Fridays, and maybe even a little bit more

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Speaker 2: than that. As we get closer and closer to the draft.

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Speaker 2: You know that we will get to some tweets. We

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Speaker 2: continue to get a ton of those which we love

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Speaker 2: Before we get out of here. But Matt, we begin,

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Speaker 2: and it has been a couple days since we've done

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Speaker 2: a show now, so some news of the day items

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Speaker 3: Kind of news around the league. I mean, people are

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Speaker 3: starting to buckle down and get in their war rooms

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Speaker 3: a couple of days since we've chatted. I'm sure some

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Speaker 2: Go through might be the last of kind of the

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Speaker 2: regular news of the day's segments here as things will

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Speaker 2: get quiet, as you mentioned a few times, like everyone's

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Speaker 2: have been set for the Steelers mini camp and Otasky.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the NFL offseason is divided into three phases.

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Speaker 2: It actually begins next week April seventh, with voluntary workouts

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Speaker 2: limited to strength and conditioning. He were before the draft, Yes,

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Speaker 2: key word being voluntary workouts there, right, Yeah, limited to strength. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I think they can.

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Speaker 3: But I always thought this was kind of an odd one,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, especially when it is again it's voluntary, right,

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Speaker 2: you know. I think part of it is probably just

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Speaker 2: You get maybe a baseline of hey, if there's someone

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Speaker 2: the neck and how's the recovery going and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that will be get next week April seventh.

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Speaker 3: And it's probably the first time that some of the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Uh. The team is permitted to have too many

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Speaker 2: camps this year. Matt with new head coach Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: that you get some wire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we haven't thought about that for.

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Speaker 2: We never right for you know, until every few decades.

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Speaker 2: But yes, so the Steelers will have too many camps.

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Speaker 2: One voluntary one mandatory. Okay. So the first voluntary camp

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Speaker 2: will be actually in the lead up to the draft

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Speaker 2: April twentieth, twenty first, and twenty second. Okay, So those

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Speaker 3: That join the other team the Steelers were never had

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Speaker 3: in the last exactly right years.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right now, albeit still voluntary, but an extra three

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Speaker 2: And then mandatory mini camp the first week in June, June, second, third,

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Speaker 2: Matt they also have their traditional h ten Ota.

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Speaker 3: Practices, okay, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: So you get you get mandatory mini camp, you get

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Speaker 2: of ten Ota practices, which would begin May eighteenth run

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Speaker 3: Okay, So when was mini camp again? For that right?

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Speaker 2: Mini camp is is so sorry, it looks like it's

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Speaker 2: gonna go OTAs and then mandatory mini camp and then

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Speaker 3: There is a difference, folks, but not massively. If you're

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Speaker 2: Yes, So ten OTAs practices three mandatory mini camp, three

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And if you recall last year, like the first

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Speaker 3: And we traditionally have broadcasted from right there next to

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Speaker 3: wearing helmets and they're doing football stuff. Yeah, but it's

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Speaker 3: I use this example and people get sick of it.

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Speaker 3: But I mean it's like kindergarten through third grade, you

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Speaker 3: we don't have to go eight thousand miles an hour

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Speaker 3: every rep, and teaching them.

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Speaker 2: The the the mental sides more important in the physical.

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Speaker 3: Side, like don't be blast in your teammates. I know

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And here's where you go for your wide

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Speaker 3: Make sure you eat enough here and hydrate here and

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Speaker 2: Yep, And get to know your trainers and your therapists

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Speaker 2: It's almost like an orientation of sorts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not happy with your cleats, you know, we'll

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Speaker 2: Sure so, Matt, that was kind of the Steelers news

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Speaker 2: And Kirk Cousins a Las Vegas Raider. M I think, uh,

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Speaker 2: there's two parts of reaction of that to me. The

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Speaker 2: first is I think that's great for Fernando Mendoza. That's

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Speaker 2: off of on the sideline when you come back, and

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Speaker 2: obviously a very capable backup if something were to happen

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Speaker 3: And maybe even starts the season maybe for a month

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Speaker 3: or so. I don't think that's the way it'll happen.

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Speaker 3: But I think their head coaches said, we don't want

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Speaker 3: It makes you figure that out as camp goes along.

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Speaker 2: Totally makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 3: They also, I don't know either one, and certainly neither

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Speaker 3: you know, in a strange in a way. You know

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Speaker 3: very wholesome, you know, and they seem like they would

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, yes, yes, I think that's a good way

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Speaker 2: to put it. I think that's a very I think

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Speaker 2: that's a very good way to put it. So that's

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Speaker 2: the one half. And then the other half though, is

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Speaker 2: that Hey there, You and I both agree that there

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Speaker 2: continues to feel a very kind of quiet confidence around

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers return as the quarterback in Pittsburgh. But now

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Speaker 2: other options have really dried up.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not trying to I don't know any of

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Speaker 3: that's what that's That's why, like our top twenty one

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Speaker 3: list is really hard, Like we should probably do pretty soon.

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Speaker 2: We want to start it next week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I might have to, Yeah, because we're probably done

438
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Speaker 3: with you know, picks and whatever. Change. It takes some

439
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Speaker 3: thought because McCoy is going to be on there for sure, yes,

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Speaker 3: but where but probably pretty high, you know, like I

441
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Speaker 3: would take him ahead of like Boston or somebody like

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Speaker 3: that that I like, But this guy's a tier above them,

443
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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, it gets so. But then you're like,

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Speaker 3: what now, I'm sure at receiver?

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know, sure? And what do you value do you?

446
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Speaker 2: You're going for the position to need, you're going for

447
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Speaker 2: the BP are trying to find a marriage between the two.

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Speaker 2: That's what makes all these hypotheticals so much fun. Yeah,

449
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Speaker 2: maybe maybe next week we'll we'll. I think definitely next

450
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Speaker 2: week we should do our first first edition. It is

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Speaker 2: I think for like the first ten or so picks,

452
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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yeah, I take Mendoza right here.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I'm sure he'll be won

454
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Speaker 3: on both of our lists. Yes, and maybe Reese is

455
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Speaker 3: good enough, he's too, even though you don't need them

456
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Speaker 3: or you play them off the ball or whatever. But still,

457
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Speaker 3: and frankly, those top six or seven don't really matter

458
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Speaker 3: because none of them are ever going to make it sure,

459
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Speaker 3: you know sure, But like downs would be pretty high.

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Speaker 2: Downs will I think definitely be in our top ten.

461
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: Styles would be high.

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Speaker 2: Styles will be high. So yeah, the wide receivers will

464
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Speaker 2: probably be a little bit higher, the offensive lineman will

465
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Speaker 2: be a little bit higher.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm taking a quote lesser o lineman than

467
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Speaker 3: the fourth Edge guy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh Edge guys, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not sure what I'd do with Bane if he even

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Speaker 3: makes my top twenty one.

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Speaker 2: We might only have like two of those guys in

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Speaker 2: our top twenties.

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Speaker 3: A really good right. Yeah, yeah, so some.

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Speaker 2: Fun stuff certainly coming down the line here is our

475
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Speaker 2: focus gets more and more so on the NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: twenty days away, just a few miles from us, right

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Speaker 2: here on the north shore of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. There's our

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Speaker 2: news of the day, kind of our opening salvo to

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Speaker 2: get us started back on a Friday here in the studios,

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Speaker 2: putting a bow on all of the week's proceedings. West Schuler,

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. It is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Work, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along on

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Speaker 2: this Friday. Good Friday to all of yin's out there

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Speaker 2: amongst Steeler Nation. Hopefully, if you're traveling around this weekend

488
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Speaker 2: an the Easter weekend plans, be safe, take care. Hopefully

489
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Speaker 2: the weather is turned here and we are ready for

490
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Speaker 2: sunnier and brighter days ahead, and Matt, as we do that,

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Speaker 2: we're kind of walking that balancing act, that tightrope of

492
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Speaker 2: looking ahead to the draft, wrapping up some things from

493
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Speaker 2: the previous year, all of this and one thing that

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Speaker 2: you had sent me earlier this week that we wanted

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Speaker 2: to make sure to get to soon. It's not necessarily

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Speaker 2: time sensitive, but I think.

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Speaker 3: Something like this might come back up in June too,

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Speaker 3: just to remind people.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, but it is the NFL in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five last season, snap weighted age by units. So basically

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Speaker 2: this is a massive breakdown of it's crazy how old

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Speaker 2: each roster is in the NFL, how old each offense,

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Speaker 2: each defense, each special teams, each position group. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: it's broken down across the league amongst all thirty two teams.

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Speaker 2: So it's everything that you do offense, defense positionally, and

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Speaker 2: how your age group stacks up to the other thirty

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Speaker 2: one teams.

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Speaker 3: So this is to the detail. They equate this. They

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Speaker 3: do this equation so you used to be football siders.

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Speaker 3: They were bought by FTN Fantasy, So I would like

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Speaker 3: to give credit to who does the work, But they've

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Speaker 3: been doing this for a long time, and it's amazing,

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Speaker 3: I mean, because you have to wait till after the year.

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Speaker 3: It's not it's so real. Dorks in football won't be

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Speaker 3: like he's twenty seven years old. They'll be like he's

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Speaker 3: twenty seven point two years old. Not down to the month,

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Speaker 3: but they break it down to the next decimal point. Sure,

518
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Speaker 3: and you know you're only in the league four five,

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Speaker 3: six years. That kind of stuff matters, and you've.

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Speaker 2: Only seven point one verse twenty seven point.

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Speaker 3: Nine is a kind of a difference, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: or draftable prospects, they'll do that. So they do that

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Speaker 3: with every player in the league. The exact age you

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Speaker 3: are to the day you know, I mean to the

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Speaker 3: day of and for how many snaps you're on the field. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is a bad example because I don't want a

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Speaker 3: bad mojo for Aaron Rodgers. But for example, his first

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Speaker 3: year with the Jets, he comes out as a starting

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Speaker 3: quarterback as I guess a forty year old at the time,

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Speaker 3: and doesn't last long. So even though he was the starter,

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Speaker 3: he've only played a couple snaps. So those snaps for

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Speaker 3: the quarterback position for the Jets two years ago would

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Speaker 3: have been Okay, let's say it was five snaps, it

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Speaker 3: was even less than that. I think that's forty point

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Speaker 3: one years old. But all the other snaps at the

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Speaker 3: quarterback positions are twenty six or whatever, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. So Cam Hayward plays a lot of snaps

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Speaker 3: as an older guy. I mean, this really breaks it

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Speaker 3: down to the nth degree of who played throughout the

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Speaker 3: year and obviously factors, not who you wanted to play,

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Speaker 3: because I mean injuries factor in and who played the

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Speaker 3: youngest snaps at each respective positions. And one thing that

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Speaker 3: does skew it and Brady's a perfect example, but Rogers

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Speaker 3: is too. When you have a quarterback that's really overaged

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Speaker 3: or even underaged, they're gonna play every snap and beau

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Speaker 3: and they carry an obscene amount of weight because there's

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Speaker 3: not gonna be a forty two year old running back

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Speaker 3: on the Raiders or whatever too, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Year old safety right right, it's the only position that

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Speaker 3: can get that old.

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Speaker 2: Maybe kickers and punters, that's yeah.

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Speaker 3: And these guys do even break down special teams, but

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Speaker 3: we don't care that much about the right right, right,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, if you have a quarterback that plays ninety

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Speaker 3: percent of the snaps like the Steelers did. It's really

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Speaker 3: gonna skew your over and overall and number right. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure when they break it down, and I haven't looked

558
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Speaker 3: this yet, but when you break it down into positions,

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Speaker 3: the Steelers had to be the oldest in the league.

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Speaker 2: Had to be. They were pretty close on offense and

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Speaker 2: on defense they were. I mean just that quarterback, I mean, oh,

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Speaker 2: just a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to be.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the oldest, Yes they were.

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Speaker 3: And old side note folks, And I think this is

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Speaker 3: a misconception too. Yes, you'd love to have the youngest roster,

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Speaker 3: you know, like the Packers for three or four years

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Speaker 3: in a row were like the youngest in this one.

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Speaker 3: But if it never comes to fruition, it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 3: And being old isn't as big a deal as it

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Speaker 3: used to be because so many of these are like

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Speaker 3: one year deals. Yeah. I mean, if you sign a

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Speaker 3: thirty year old center and he plays one good year

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Speaker 3: for you and you get high quality return on the

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Speaker 3: field and then he leaves, that doesn't mean you're an

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Speaker 3: old team, you know what I mean. Then you draft

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Speaker 3: the center of the next year, or you drafted one

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Speaker 3: and waiting in the wings to learn from that guy.

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Speaker 3: So some of it, I mean, but it does really

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Speaker 3: break down of how old you were per snap, not

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Speaker 3: per game, I mean to the lowest common denominator, which

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Speaker 3: to me, I think is really valuable, you know, at

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Speaker 3: least the thing that I didn't analyze.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I completely completely agree with you. And

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Speaker 2: so let's just kind of the quarterback that you mentioned there.

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Speaker 2: The average age of the Steelers quarterback taking a snap

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Speaker 2: this season was forty point seven years old.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a perfect way to phrase it. That's the

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Speaker 3: average age of the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Because remember Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers was forty one into

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Speaker 2: forty two this season, but he didn't take every snap.

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Speaker 2: So Mason Rudolph's the game that he started, and a

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Speaker 2: few of the like when he came in.

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Speaker 3: In relief, and if one snapped and Neil at the

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Speaker 3: end of the exactly right, that's one sixtieth of that game.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, is right? So the Steelers were the longest

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Speaker 2: in the tooth at quarterback substantially. The Raiders were thirty

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Speaker 2: seven years old on average. Or sorry, the Rams part

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Speaker 2: of me because Matthew Stafford's too being you know, being

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Speaker 2: the oldest Raiders were thirty four. Genie Smith played pretty

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Speaker 2: much every snap. Kenny, you know, I think Kenny had

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Speaker 2: a game in there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe O'Connell got out there a little.

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Speaker 2: But like you know, Cincinnati had the third oldest average

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Speaker 2: age because Joe Flacco played so many snaps at the

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Speaker 2: quarterback position. But yeah, the Steelers pretty substantially there the

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Speaker 2: oldest at quarterback as you can as you can imagine,

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Speaker 2: and as I kind.

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Speaker 3: Of mentioned before, I almost think quarterbacks shouldn't be equated

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Speaker 3: with the rest of the offense, and that plays so much.

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Speaker 3: They're a little bit an outlier.

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Speaker 2: That's why too. So the Steelers had on average, their

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Speaker 2: total snap weighted age by offense was second oldest in

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Speaker 2: the NFL twenty seven point eight, only behind the Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 2: who the oldest. But so much of that is weighted

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Speaker 2: by Aaron Rodgers who played I mean it had to

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Speaker 2: be him or Zach Fraser who played the most snaps

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Speaker 2: on the offense.

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Speaker 3: Right, They didn't miss many.

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Speaker 2: Right, so that obviously brings the area up for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: And now this one, I don't think a surprising Matt

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Speaker 2: the Steelers quick.

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Speaker 3: Before you get there, Yep, the Russell Wilson year. If

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Speaker 3: you looked at the offense, it was very young. And

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Speaker 3: I know Field's played some of that year too, but

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Speaker 3: the Steelers weren't considered one of the youngest in the

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Speaker 3: league because Wilson played seventy five percent of snaps or

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Speaker 3: something that year.

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Speaker 2: He was in his mid thirties.

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Speaker 3: He was in his mid thirties. Where you had the Fraser.

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Speaker 3: I mean, all those young old linemen that played a

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Speaker 3: ton of snaps. He outweighs all those guys just in

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Speaker 3: terms of the math.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. So Steelers second oldest offense on average,

635
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Speaker 2: second oldest defense on average, Matt the.

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Speaker 3: Defense adds up. We know it's expensive and it's all third.

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Speaker 2: Third, third, third oldest on So second oldest offense, third

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Speaker 2: oldest defense defense, only behind the Commanders and the where

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Speaker 2: is it here? Minnesota Vikings? Okay, So Washington actually had

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Speaker 2: the oldest average age on offense, oldest average age on

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Speaker 2: defense and they weren't very good. That's not a great

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Speaker 2: spot to be.

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Speaker 3: See again, this is a first I've really looked at this,

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't shock me at all, and not that

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Speaker 3: I'm super smart or anything like that. But after the

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Speaker 3: Daniels rookie year, when they went to the Final four,

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Speaker 3: I thought they really thought they could run before they

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Speaker 3: could walk.

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Speaker 2: They brought in a.

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Speaker 3: Bunch of veterans, Wagner and Ertz and all these dudes like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we're a final four team. We got the young quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you got the young quarterback. But you're not as close

653
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: as you think. And then all of a sudden, you

654
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: get old before you know it, and it's like man

655
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: traded for debo traded for Tunsul didn't have any infusion

656
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: of draft picks. And frankly, you who knows how much?

657
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: Who knows how much the Steelers upcoming draft class will play.

658
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: They may not play many snaps, but you're gonna have

659
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: a lot of people on the roster that are young,

660
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: yes you know that are coming, that aren't on the

661
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: team as we speak. They might play a ton of snaps.

662
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: They might play none. You know who knows.

663
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Speaker 2: San Francisco third on this list, matt oldest oldest offense.

664
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Speaker 2: Wait hold on one second here, this okay, sorry, Yeah,

665
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: San Francisco oldest offense really weighed them down because Williams,

666
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, all those guys.

667
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: Into the position or yep, all pretty old.

668
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: Atlanta had the fourth oldest average team in the league,

669
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Speaker 2: fifth oldest offense, sixteenth oldest defense, Minnesota number five overall,

670
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: Denver number six, Buffalo number seven, Colts number eight. So

671
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: when I look at that, I look through that list

672
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Speaker 2: of the top eight oldest teams, and man aside, Denver

673
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: certainly was a contender. They were in the AFC championship game.

674
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: Buffalo you could probably put into that.

675
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, their perennial.

676
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: But and then well, I guess San Francisco did win

677
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: a playoff game as well. So three of the top

678
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: eight oldest teams won a playoff game. Steelers made it

679
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: to before, Colts missed, Washington missed, Atlanta missed, Minnesota missed.

680
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: So the eight oldest teams, four made the playoffs. Four

681
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: did not qualify.

682
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: So you certainly don't want to be old and bad.

683
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: Now if you only have one or two guys, I

684
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: like a Rogers fit factor, you got to you gotta,

685
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: you do have to look at it more than just

686
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: this spreadsheet. But old and bad and scary, you know,

687
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: you know, like Minnesota comes to mind. Because their quarterbacks

688
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: were young. It was McCarthy. You know, it wasn't like

689
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: they had an old dude sure, you know, Cousins or

690
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: something for a year. So they were collectively pretty old,

691
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: you know. It wasn't just one guy dragging him down.

692
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: And Atlanta is a little concerning, but a lot of

693
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: that is because of Kirk Cousin. Cousins did play a

694
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: fair amount. So those were kind of the top eight oldest. Okay,

695
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: and then if you go what really kind of caught

696
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: my eye when I was looking through this, Matt Youngest

697
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: average age team in the league was Green Bay about

698
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: twenty five and a half.

699
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 3: Four or five years in a row. They've been there.

700
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Speaker 2: It's like it's almost like something that they're trying to

701
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: do well.

702
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: They don't bring a lot of free agents from outside

703
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: the organization, and they don't have that one or two

704
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 3: dudes that's been there for fifteen years.

705
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, green Bay youngest New York Jets, second youngest Philadelphia.

706
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: Promising for the Jets, I would think so, certainly we

707
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: know that they're trying to rebuild and play youngest.

708
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 2: They had the youngest offense in the league, twenty sixth,

709
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: oldest defense in the league. The Jets did. Okay, Eagles

710
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: third youngest, super Bowl champion, Seattle Seahawks fourth youngest. Wow,

711
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: that's right, Carolina Panther's fifth youngest.

712
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: A pretty successful team.

713
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Speaker 2: So what really stood out to me there, Matt, is

714
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: that the five youngest teams four made the playoffs. Yeah right,

715
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: Seattle won their division, Carolina won their division, Philly won

716
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: their division. Green Bay was a wild card. One won

717
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. So I mean, again, this is a

718
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: one year sample size, of course, but I look at the.

719
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Speaker 3: Top, even like green Bay didn't have Craft and Michael Parsons,

720
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: and you know.

721
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Speaker 2: Like, I look at the top eight oldest teams and

722
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, Denver, yes, Buffalo maybe. But you can

723
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 2: go with maybe one and a half of those eight

724
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: teams were a true bonafide contender. Yeah, not a playoff team.

725
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Steelers were a playoff team.

726
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: But I'm Steelers weren't.

727
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: I don't think Carolina was exactly right, exactly right, But

728
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 2: here of these bottom five you get four division champions.

729
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 2: Carolina a little bit of an outlier because I think

730
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: we all agree they were not a contenders, still a

731
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: division champion, but.

732
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Speaker 3: At least the organization's trending the right way in terms

733
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Speaker 3: of a youth movement.

734
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Speaker 2: You know, Seattle certainly a contender won the whole dang thing. Philadelphia,

735
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: I think a contender as much as things are cantankerous there,

736
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Speaker 2: they were just Super Bowl, you know, a year ago,

737
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: and we're a division champion.

738
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Speaker 3: Green Bay A couple older dudes.

739
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Green Bay. You and I at one point,

740
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: I think both would have picked them to be the

741
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: Super Bowl winner, maybe in the middle of this season

742
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 2: before when Craft was run and was looking the part

743
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: and all that. Now they fell apart due to some injuries.

744
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: But man that and again, this is only a one

745
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: year sample size, so I don't want to make it

746
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: seem like it's gospel, of course, but.

747
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: These rosters do get overhauled. I mean it's like thirty

748
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 3: or forty percent of the rosters across the league get changed.

749
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Speaker 2: That was just kind of four of the five youngest

750
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: teams division champions, one of them won the Super Bowl.

751
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a young man. There's a reason

752
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: that you hear so often it's a young man's game.

753
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: It's a young man. Yeah.

754
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: And I mean, if you're if this was Seattle Nation

755
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: Radio would be like, hey, can we build a dynasty here?

756
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: I mean, our biggest competitors, the Rams are one of

757
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 3: the oldest teams in the league. Can they keep it

758
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: up as long as we can?

759
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: Miners one of the older teams in the league.

760
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So in the division, we're the

761
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: best chance to be still strong two three years from them.

762
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, absolutely. So that was just you

763
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: had sent that to me. I thought that that was

764
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: very interesting and just you know, kind of deserve coming

765
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: over here.

766
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: Curious where the rest of the division comes in. I know,

767
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: the Browns played the most rookie snaps of any team

768
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: in the league, which shouldn't shock anybody. I mean, they

769
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: had a good rookie class at positions that were easy

770
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: to play Judkins fan in, et cetera. So they at

771
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: least dedicated themselves to being young.

772
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: They had the twelfth youngest offense in the league, defense

773
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: a little bit twenty fifth, so they were established. They

774
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: were the twentieth oldest overall, so a little bit younger

775
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: than a little younger than average, little younger than average.

776
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati nineteenth, so Cincinnati and Cleveland were both about the same.

777
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Ico definitely hurts that Black because he got traded

778
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: from one of these.

779
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: True that he started the season. Did he start the

780
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: season for Cleveland? I'm trying to run.

781
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: He didn't play Week one? Maybe he did. He played

782
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: three or four games, I thought so, And the remember

783
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: was like, who's trading this guy in the division?

784
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 4: Right?

785
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, before they gave it to Dylan Gabriels. So Cincinnati nineteenth,

786
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: uh oldest overall, Cleveland twentieth, So both of them kind

787
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: of below the league average. And then Baltimore's twenty sixth

788
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: So one two, four or five six. They were actually

789
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 2: the seventh youngest on average in the National Football League,

790
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: and that with Baltimore had the oldest average special teams

791
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: in the league.

792
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: Sucker, I would think I had a lot to do

793
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: with that.

794
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: So interesting Baltimore's average age for the entire.

795
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: Kick for the last year's I don't think.

796
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: No, he was the first year without him. Yeah, yeah,

797
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: But Baltimore's average age for the entire roster for the

798
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: season per snap twenty six point three. Cleveland and Cincinnati

799
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: were twenty six point six, and these Steelers were twenty

800
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: seven point eight.

801
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: Okay, So Frank, I mean just to be honest, if

802
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: this was Ravens Nation Radio, I would be saying, I

803
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: like our chances of being the most competitive team in

804
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: the division for the next couple of years. Yeah, you

805
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 3: could be like those Steelers are relying on the Haywards

806
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: and Watts and ramsays, how long are they gonna last?

807
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 3: And who's their next quarterback? Where the Ravens I'm trying

808
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: to think if there's a miss off the top of

809
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: my head, guys they truly count on for a lot

810
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: of snaps that are thirty plus Andrews, then it's pretty short. Yeah,

811
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: I mean, like most of their dudes are probably mid

812
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 3: to late twenties. I don't think they've drafted great since

813
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: Ozzie knew something.

814
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: They have the oldest running back snap at oh.

815
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: I don't think of Henriett's a great.

816
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: Yeahs anybody, but they had I don't want to say substantially,

817
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: but very very clearly the oldest average running back age

818
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: at twenty nine.

819
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and got good production out of them obviously, Yes, Oh,

820
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: San Francisco right there too because of McCaffrey.

821
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: Makes sense, But those two kind of an out drafts

822
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: where everyone else in the running back group is like

823
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four, twenty five.

824
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: That's gonna be like the youngest position group across pretty

825
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: much an average.

826
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: It's it looks like if I'm looking here, yeah, running

827
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 2: back and wide receiver, the youngest the youngest position groups

828
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: pretty unanimously across the league all in about the mid

829
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Speaker 2: twenties there, give or take a little bit. Okay, So

830
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Speaker 2: that was interesting.

831
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting exercise, you know. Like again, I

832
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: like that they also have a spreadsheet, a grid of Okay,

833
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: there's one position that's super old or one that's super young,

834
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: but collectively is that a young team is an old

835
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: team and some teams and this also pivots off. The

836
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Speaker 3: other thing that this organization does is they do snap

837
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: weighted injuries too. Yes, like if you were hit super

838
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: hard by injuries, maybe you were younger than you wanted

839
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: to be. You know, you played guys that weren't ready.

840
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: You're put throwing that fourth rounder out there because you

841
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: get two injuries ahead of him and he wasn't.

842
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: Ready exactly right, exactly right. So and we do have

843
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: those numbers too, all those injury numbers. Maybe we can

844
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: we can get to some of those on the other

845
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: side here, we're overdue for a break. Yeah, yeah, but

846
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: that was I liked reading through that when you sent

847
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: it to me, and I just thought that was a

848
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: fun conversation to have here. Yeah, on this Friday.

849
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Speaker 3: That's one of the ones where it's you look at

850
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: the two ends of the spectrum and then you look why.

851
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: You know again, Rogers has a ton to do it.

852
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense, makes a lot of sense.

853
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: Let's get to a break here, we'll come back. We'll

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Speaker 2: close down the first hour of the show when we return.

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Speaker 2: Radio final segment here of the first hour two beefy ones.

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Speaker 3: Matt, Yeah, much like the I think we had much

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Speaker 3: to talk about. We were rolling along there.

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Speaker 2: Much like the beefy burritos that we had out in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: We did have some Mexican we'll get to that mazine.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that more here in just.

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Speaker 3: Nice spot right across the street was lovely.

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Speaker 2: I go right now, Well, let's talk about it a

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Speaker 2: little bit more because we two beefy segments. We need

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Speaker 2: a shorty here to get our clock back on schedule

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Speaker 2: for hour two. Sudesh tweets us welcome back and your

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Speaker 2: dream scenarios. If everything fell perfectly, who would be the

880
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: Steelers first round pick? Also, yesterday was National Burrito Day.

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Speaker 2: What was your favorite Mexican meal in Arizona? Was it

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Speaker 2: chicken bee for pork?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

884
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Speaker 2: Which one do you want to start with?

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Speaker 3: There? The place across the street was really really good.

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Speaker 3: It was super convenient.

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Speaker 2: It was called Blanco.

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Speaker 3: But our last Mexican meal was probably the best one. Yes,

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00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: and we went downtown Phoenix and that was.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember Maya something like that, a meal from

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00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: Steelers videos was found it, Yeah, found it and it

892
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: was like one of the highest rated places and got

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Speaker 2: us a reservation and all that. It was amazing.

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Speaker 3: So mine was crab then, because I got crabb blue

895
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Speaker 3: crab enchiladas there and they were phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: I had the I had the Mine just felt they

897
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: literally brought me like a pork leg and you like,

898
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Speaker 2: and it just like it just fell off sauces and

899
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: tacos and beans and yeah, yeah, so I think I

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Speaker 2: would go with pork. Mine mine was pork.

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00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: Your fellow we were with got duck. That looked incredible

902
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: too at that meal, right, So that was I don't

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Speaker 3: think any of the choices. Pork was on the list.

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Speaker 2: Right on the tweet, they were all they were all

905
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Speaker 2: so good. Now this place across oh, this place across

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Speaker 2: the street from our host. So we got in later Saturday,

907
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Speaker 2: m hm, and so we were all We got to

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Speaker 2: the hotel, got checked in and it was probably seven

909
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: or eight o'clock at that point.

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Speaker 3: We're pretty worn out.

911
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Speaker 2: We were worn out, and by our clock it's like

912
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Speaker 2: nine or ten o'clock East Coast, and we're all starving,

913
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Speaker 2: haven't had dinner yet. Yeah, we went over to this

914
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Speaker 2: place across the street and had an awesome dinner. It

915
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Speaker 2: was so good that Matt and I went back for

916
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Speaker 2: lunch on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, three years before Dale and I did it twice too.

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Speaker 3: Yeahah right, And I think the video guys went one

919
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Speaker 3: other time without us and with one with us and

920
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Speaker 3: one without us, so we weren't there that long. They

921
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Speaker 3: hit the same restaurant twice right across the street. So good, Yeah,

922
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Speaker 3: so good.

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Speaker 2: The Mexican food was amazing. Uh, Domino's fall. Who would

924
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Speaker 2: be the Steelers first pick in my dream scenario? I

925
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Speaker 2: mean Fromando Mendoza, Yes, but that might be a little

926
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: too far fetched.

927
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Speaker 3: I think, I like in a dream world, I mean downs,

928
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Speaker 3: but he's not gonna fall.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's where if you go dream scenario, I

930
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: think you take Mendoza out of it, you take downs

931
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Speaker 2: out of it, you take Tate out of it. Maybe

932
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Speaker 2: that's the answer.

933
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Speaker 3: Too, Same with styles, same with Yeah, you know, I

934
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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe now we go Yeah, because he could be tackle guard.

936
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Speaker 3: I mean you've put him in left guard. He may

937
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: never leave. I really like him.

938
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Speaker 2: I think I think, I think mine, if we're going realistic,

939
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Speaker 2: would probably be one of the offensive line, because I

940
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: can't say Tate, that's not realistic, Like that is a

941
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: dream scenario of course, but yeah, my my dream scenario

942
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Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm really warming up to

943
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: that idea.

944
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Fano might be every bit the guard

945
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Speaker 3: Vega is, but the fact that maybe he's attacked would

946
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Speaker 3: beat that Tie for sure.

947
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

948
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Speaker 3: He's a real movement based guy, and that's what this

949
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Speaker 3: offense wants to.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough one because like if if I if

951
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: we thought a little bit more of Tie Simpson, that

952
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: could be the easy answer, you know.

953
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Speaker 3: But I think he'll be there, and you know, yeah.

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00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a it's a it's a weird it's a

955
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: weird one. It's a weird class in that regard because

956
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: most of the quote unquote blue chip guys are non

957
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: traditional positions of value. Yeah, like the downs and the

958
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: love and you know, Sonny styles. I mean, I just

959
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Speaker 2: I don't I think, even in a dream scenario, it's

960
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: not realistic to say that those guys are there.

961
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Speaker 3: I know, we don't have a lot of time, but

962
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Speaker 3: you got But you know that I've followed the draft

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Speaker 3: now for a long time, at least forty five years.

964
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and it's intently as an eight year old

965
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Speaker 3: can or a six year old. And there's been many

966
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: Steeler most Steeler drafts where especially when I was a

967
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 3: young kid, where I'm like holding on for dear life,

968
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Speaker 3: like I hope that dude falls. Like I remember the

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00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: year Tory Holt, David Boston and Edwards came out. The

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00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: Steelers were definitely taking the receiver, and I'm like, man,

971
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Speaker 3: if they get Holt or Boston, you know, and then

972
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Speaker 3: they both fell, I'm like, Okay, they'll get Edwards, you know.

973
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Speaker 3: Like the dream scenario was Holt or Boston, you know,

974
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Speaker 3: like didn't happen. But that wasn't that far fetched, you know.

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Speaker 3: This one, it's I don't know who that guy is.

976
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Speaker 3: There's not that dude, Like, boy, if the Ravens passed

977
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Speaker 3: on this guy, they might get him. Like I remember

978
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Speaker 3: jumping out of my skin when they got Rod Woodson. Yeah,

979
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Speaker 3: I was like, of course, I can't believe that. Like

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00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have believed that. I mean, they like the

981
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: tenth pick in the draft, the ninth pick the draft,

982
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Speaker 3: like they got Rod Woods.

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Speaker 2: You might be the best one in the draft. Yeah,

984
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Speaker 2: hour in the books, another hour ago. Let's do some

985
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Speaker 2: mock draft conversation in our number two when we return

986
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Speaker 2: halfway home. Here on a Friday washeeler Matt Williamson. It

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Speaker 2: is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.