1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: The most valuable commodity I know of his information in 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: five five dollars. This is a roping a level. You're 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable, though 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: humans need fantasy to be human. My goodness, mistaken cones best, relentless, 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: refusing to give up. 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: All right, hit that horn Variables says. 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: What is up? 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: Everybody? 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast from the Action Network 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: and Fantasy Labs. I am your host, Chris Raybon. It 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: is NFL Week three. I am here put the most 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: accurate rancor in the game, the odds maker Sean Kerner 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: and Sean we're just talking off air about some very 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: in New Weeds projection stuff. But I think it actually 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: is a good question, so I'm gonna ask you to 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: start the pod. 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel about a. 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: Two week sample size? Because like I love one because 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, like going into week two finally have data. 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: I know you always talk about that as well, but 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: and then I like, you know, having three or more 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: that starts to stabilize. But two is kind of very 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: tricky because you know, one you could have like a 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: fifty percent outlier type of situation. Uh So, how do you, 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: how do you kind of go about week three projections 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: with your process? 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, just uh, the more weeks we get, the more 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: comfortable I am you are in our projection. So just 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: having one week was massive. I loathe projecting week one. 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I love week one because it's week one 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: football is back, but it's so tricky to project because 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: what are we going off of. But after the first week, 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: we have one week of data. But then as we saw, 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: you know, we got some things right, we got some 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: things wrong. Week two helps, you know, clarify some of 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: the things I was willing to pivot. I love having 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: two weeks of data. You get to kind of notice trends, 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: see something of a different direction. But more importantly, Raybond, 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: everybody's in the dark. Everybody's going to be over or 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: underreacting to two weeks of data. But I think the 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: fact that we do look at underlying data like routes, 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: run rate, target rate, things like that give us an 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: edge because they're under the surface level. They're under you know, 44 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: the box score data. So I think we're still going 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: to be more equipped than not to kind of identify 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: the true breakouts or the flukey performances and things like that. 47 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: So even though it's a very small it's a very 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: very small sample size two weeks, it's enough to like 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: pick up on trends to at least beat the market 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: in so heading in week three. Love the fact that 51 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: we have, you know, one more additional week of data 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: to go off of. 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: It's interesting because yeah, I I'm I hate this is 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: my weast favorite. I really love it for the challenge, 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: but I just don't like the psychological and data kind 56 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: of challenges that two weeks because it's like, now, like again, 57 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: you could have like one whole entire outlier in a 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: two week sample, whereas like week one, it's like, all right, 59 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: now we just have stuff where we didn't before. Three 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: is like okay, now you know what what happened to 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: out of three three? Like it's a trend whatever. But 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: just this two week it's like fifty to fifty especially 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: it's is it just noise? Is it a trend? Is it? 64 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: Is it? 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot going on. So I load it, 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: but it's it's a challenge and it's fun, and uh, 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: you know what is also fun going to fantasywabs dot 68 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: com getting our very accurate highly accurate in season and rankings. 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Both of us have finished top five numerous times. 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Last week he went, 80 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: uh A cool two and O. I went, oh and too, 81 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: So you're opening up a little bit of a lead 82 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 1: a lead. 83 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: There rushing props good like four point four. 84 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of flowed down. He was that he 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: was over five for a while, and I was like, oh, 86 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: what's coming. But you know, I was like it was 87 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: like a bitter sweet thing because I had the giants, 88 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, I got them. 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: I think it was I forget plus six or plus 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: something like that. 91 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: So I was just like, don't, don't do anything. Stupid 92 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: with the uh you know, like don't wear a touchdown. 93 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: So I was kind of happy when they lost with 94 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: battlefield goal. But at the same time, I was like, Jesus, guys, 95 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: like we should have won this game. But cardio king, 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: that is player who runs the most routes without a 97 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: target each and every week. Who are winners basting with 98 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: Jose of Ashton and Higbee, right, I think the no, yeah. 99 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, sash and Higbee. 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: This week we got some some guys that I less 101 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: surprising than the than Jose Higbe. I will say, uh, 102 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: take it away who we got at our cardio king 103 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: overall and then our guy at wide receivers were just 104 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: running around. This is way too much. And the base 105 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: run and run and run and running and run, run 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: and run and. 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: Running, and so the cardio king overall and at tight 108 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: end actually isn't too surprising. I think we even hinted 109 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: at this, but it was Tanner Connor of the Dolphins 110 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: with twenty one routes no targets. 111 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: Julian Hill was the same, right. 112 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 3: I think Julian Hill had double digit routes run and 113 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: zero targets. I think we thought it might be one 114 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: of the Dolphins tight ends. It was Tanner Connor. He 115 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: actually led the entire league in routes round without a 116 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: target twenty one. It was kind of weird you were mentioning. 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: Typically we do see a receiver with twenty plus routes 118 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: and no targets. Didn't happen last week. But our cardio 119 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: king at wide receiver was Zay Jones with sixteen routes run, 120 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: zero targets. So kind of a low week for the 121 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: cardio king, but Jay Jones won it. Not too surprising 122 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: there in my opinion. 123 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this guy I think had eight catches all a 124 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: year last year. The carters are very weird with their 125 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: I guess because they're like a three tight end team, 126 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: so the reads are set up that way. But yeah, 127 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: he is. He's a good bet each and every week. 128 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: Who would you say, is Jay Jones a favorite for 129 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Week three? 130 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Or who? 131 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: Who do you wide receiver say? Jones isn't running enough 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: routes to be like the favorite in this And I 133 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: think by week five or six, I'll have a sim 134 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: set up to actually come up with odds with this. 135 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: But just quickly looking at I have everybody's routes run 136 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: total and targets. The guys I identified that might be 137 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: like favorites would be Darius Slayton, who's running a ton 138 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: of routes and a very low target rate. I think 139 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: he's probably running too many routes to be like the favorite, 140 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 3: but I'm going to nominate him this week. And Cole Comet, 141 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: you know, running a ton of routes, low target rate. 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: I think he might actually be the favorite in this 143 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: market for tight end. But like we were saying, like 144 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: by week five or six, I might have ten minutes 145 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: to spare to set up a sim for this. 146 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: But it'd be kind of. 147 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: Fun to have odds and have us like draft cardio 148 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: king because this is it's you know, we're joking about it, 149 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: but you know it's useful information information. It's kind of 150 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: showing how we kind of build our projections stuff like that. 151 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, we would love to be able to bet 152 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: on these things week to week. 153 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you kind of want a team to have 154 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: at least one of these guys, true, just because that 155 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: kind of makes things more stable for the top to 156 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: top one at least, but usually the top two guys, 157 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: so you know, like Wandale Robinson. I think is great 158 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: because you have Slayton as a cardio king on the 159 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: on the GMA, and and then it's just the tight 160 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: end the back. So uh yeah, those situations can can 161 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: really work out. I would I would probably throw Kate 162 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Otton's name in the mix, and. 163 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: Uh and he was an award named after him, right, 164 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: pretty much? 165 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: Who's the guy the Chargers back? 166 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: Quintin Patton was it or something something like that. 167 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: I think he's Uh, he was like a guy who 168 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: just this was like maybe like a decade ago, but 169 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: he was one of the first guys I remember that 170 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: would just. 171 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: I thought Marcus Robinson on the Chiefs would originally kind 172 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: of call him out. What the hell is just Bryan 173 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: win sprunts out there? He was like the O G guy. 174 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: Uh not anymore, but yeah, he was the cardio king 175 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: for sure on the Chiefs. 176 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 177 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: Probably gonna be Xavier League at pretty soon he's playing, 178 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: all right? Uh quarter back quarterback Top five Week three. 179 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Who he got looks. 180 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: Like the same old boring stuff. I have Josh Allen, 181 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, Jaydon Daniels, Jalen Hurts, oh and Caleb Williams 182 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: baby QB five. 183 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right there for me too. He's actually my 184 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: QB six. I was gonna mention him, but that just 185 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: depends on if Jayden Daniels plays or not. But yeah, 186 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: I got Jackson. Iwe hurts Mahomes, Daniels five, Caleb six. 187 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: So right there with you man, great great potential shootout 188 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: as one as the weather cooperates. I know our guy 189 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: doctor Nick is on the under in that one. Mm hm. 190 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. 191 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: So what I mean, that's true pretty much every game. 192 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: But who who you high on this week at QB. 193 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: It seems like we keep flip flopping guys between shows, 194 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: but I'm going to go Daniel Jones here. 195 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: He's my QB nine against the. 196 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: Titans, just continues to crush as the cult starting quarterback. 197 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: It looks like his nickname changed from Danny Dimes to 198 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: Indiana Jones. I kind of like it, guy. I kind 199 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 3: of like the rebrand because, you know, once again, he 200 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: was QB seven last week, and I'm not too surprised. 201 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: As soon as he was announced as the starting quarterback. 202 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: I was super high on him because he's flashed QB 203 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: one upside in the past. Just given his rushing upside. 204 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: This offense was built, you know, kind of around Anthony 205 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 3: Richardson's rushing ability so great, you know, landing spot for him, 206 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: and then this is the best supporting cast he's ever 207 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 3: had in terms of pass catchers, so you know, he's 208 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: been solid out of the gate. He now has three 209 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns on the season, probably not gonna sustain that, 210 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: but he's only rushed for twenty six and then two 211 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: yards last week. I think we are going to see 212 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: more rushing yards overall going forward from him. So I 213 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: think he's going to still stabilize as you know, like 214 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: a low end QB one option as long as he 215 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: is the starter, and I don't think he's going to 216 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: be losing that job anytime soon. So very impressed with 217 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: what I'm seeing with him, and he's helping, he's opening 218 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: everything up for the Colts pasts cutchers themselves. So just 219 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: very very positive vibes with the culture right now. 220 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely just have to use like pick him up, 221 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: use him every week. The only thing I could see 222 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: happening is him getting hurt because he takes He does 223 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: still take some big hits because he's he is running 224 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: more than maybe I think I expected, like around a 225 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: goal line, which is where you get hit a lot, 226 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: so that's the one thing where we have seen him 227 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: miss time. So yeah, definitely want to maximize Indiana Jones. 228 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: And speaking of maximize Caleb Williams, man, he just he 229 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: doesn't look right, but it actually helps his fantasy prospects 230 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: because I don't think he trusts his own arms sometimes, 231 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: and what happens is he'll use his legs and then 232 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: get himself and the team into such bad situations that 233 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: he essentially has to keep throwing. And he does have 234 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: pretty good receivers, pretty good scheme and whatnot. I think 235 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: he's kind of the issue, but we know he has 236 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: the talent. Maybe it just takes time, Maybe he needs 237 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: another offseason. Who knows, because I just feel like he's 238 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: in his head. But you mentioned him. He's a top 239 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: ten quarterback for me as well. This week's my QB six, 240 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: and you know ECR has him at QB nine, so 241 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: I guess we're both, uh, you know, three four spots 242 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: high on him. But this Dallas Bear game, I mean, 243 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: the Bears gave up fifty plus last week and the 244 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys had the announcers talking about Russell Wilson set in 245 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: career highs and look at like he was in his 246 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl product. I mean, thank you for the sacrificial 247 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson passing. 248 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, like a yardage or something. 249 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like it was. It made sense because I 250 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: had him. I had Dark getting a couple of snaps too. 251 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: So anytime you think a guy's gonna get benched, but man, 252 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: that Cowboys defense, Uh No, Micah banged up on the 253 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: back end. Even camab might be able to get something 254 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: going here through the air and it could just be 255 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: a shoot out. The spread is about one and a 256 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: half in favor of the Chicago Bear. So everything every 257 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: ingredient we want, unless there's bad weather, So do keep 258 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: an eye on that. But right now, yeah, really really 259 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: like Caleb this week. 260 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: Yeah I wrote him up last week, just super high 261 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: on him. But the media circus around him and you know, 262 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: off to horrible start. That doesn't matter for fantasy. The disaster, 263 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: the chaos is what helps give us fancy points. 264 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: Especially. 265 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: I don't think people realize just how much rushing upside 266 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: he has. In Week one, two of his runs he 267 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: went over twenty miles per hour. Last year, Jayden Daniels 268 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: led the league with three total runs that went twenty 269 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: plus miles per hour. Like Caleb could move and you 270 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: could see him all the time escape pressure, avoid a 271 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: sack and then like try to like force it downfield 272 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: by the sideline, just like Josh Allen. And he finally 273 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: did start to connect on some of those. It's pure chaos, 274 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: but he's only gonna get better and these still lead 275 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: to fantasy points, whether whether you like how he gets 276 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: it or not. So yeah, again, he finally inside my 277 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: top five. We'll see how long that sticks. But very 278 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: impressed what I saw, ignoring all the bad plays, of course. 279 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that was just gonna be there 280 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: for him. He's gonna he might end up settling in 281 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: as like your favorite bad quarterback, kind of like a 282 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: Jamis or like he might be he might not. Seriously, 283 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: like every week every snap I watch more and more 284 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: because he's one of the first guys I watch every week. 285 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: I just haven't seen it yet, and I just I 286 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: just wonder if it's a little bit more. It's like 287 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: there are physical things, but it's more just accuracy. But 288 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: I think he's like he's just in his head a 289 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: little bit. And uh, but yeah, for sure, a lot 290 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: of upside the Bears haven't really unleashed. Love Withindor or 291 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: Luther Burden yet So uh yeah, Kayler could continue to 292 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: trend up in this new offense. Who are you low 293 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: on Week three? 294 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: I'm low on Matthew Stafford. 295 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: He's my QB thirty to open the week, and you 296 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: know last week he finished with three hundred yards two 297 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: touchdowns and he finishes a QB nineteen. You know, he 298 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: offers zero rushing upside and I mean zero. He is 299 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: the mal Santa right now and you know, much tougher 300 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: matchup this week against the Eagles. So we do you 301 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: have a quarterback that just doesn't offer rushing upside. He's 302 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: much more matchup dependent, doesn't offer that you know, rushing floor. 303 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: And ECR has him QB twenty three to open in 304 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: the week. I think that's gonna come down as people 305 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: wake up as they make their week three projections. So yeah, 306 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: he's all the way down to QB thirty for me. 307 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: He's a tougher start, honestly. In you know two QB 308 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: super flex formats, you have those guys like Browning available, 309 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: Wentz available now, like I would start them over Stafford 310 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: this week. 311 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: Just give him the matchup. 312 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really you gotta kind of pick your 313 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: spots with him. And it's even when he hits his ceiling, 314 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: it's usually negated by the lack of I mean, we 315 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: talked about Spencer Ratlers like the middle of the pack 316 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: every week, just running a little, throwing a little. But 317 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm all and I love this guy as a passer, 318 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: But I'm all on Jordan Love. This week he is 319 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: EASTRQB thirteen. Now he's on the road against the Browns, 320 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: first road game of the season. For Love, I think 321 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: the Browns are a little bit underrated on defense, and 322 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I think with Love you just worry about game script 323 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: because the Packers defense is now so good that and 324 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: Love is gonna take a shots down the field. But 325 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, if he hits them, great. If he doesn't, 326 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: they might not need him to pass for more than 327 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: a buck eighty A lot of weeks with how good 328 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: their entire roster is. You just lost Jaden Reid. So 329 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: Love is just gonna kind of be a volatile passer. 330 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: I think he's a great kind of DFS play. But 331 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: this is a game where the Packers are favored by 332 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: more than a touchdown. Yet again, probably be a common 333 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: friend the Browns could be the worst team in the league. 334 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. But yeah, and then you 335 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: have Miles Garrett just kind of looming. Who can We 336 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: saw it with Joe Burrow can just kind of wreck 337 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: the offense his day. So still too many risks for 338 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: me to pick him over. You know, a guy like 339 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as as a fringe QB one if I 340 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: need a guy a pitch, So Love Love got a 341 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Packer Super Bowl ticket before the Parsons trade. Looks feeling 342 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: good about that now. But that's not always great, especially 343 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: because he he doesn't really run a lot either. He can, 344 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: but he doesn't. He tech. He usually doesn't have to 345 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: just hand it to Jacobs anytime. Touchdown Josh Jacobs every week, right. 346 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That's that's the thing. 347 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: It's just the good defense kind of limits his upside, 348 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: especially he doesn't offer any rushing upside himself. 349 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: All right, where are we going for the QB prep? 350 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: You hit under the under on Mayfield two twenty nine 351 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: and have last week, so you're setting ATQUB this week. 352 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 3: All right, let's go with your You always do a 353 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: good job with quarterback rushing projection, so I kind of 354 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 3: want to dive in on somebody that we've already talked 355 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: about numerous times already, but it's Indiana Jones. Daniel Jones 356 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: over under, twenty six and a half rushing yards. I'm 357 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 3: gonna go twenty six and a half rushing yards over under. 358 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: And kind of what are you seeing in terms of 359 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: you know, projecting him for week three? 360 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: Seeing Johnathan Caro look at like a monster out there. 361 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: But let's see, I. 362 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 4: Mean, just this coach team is starting to be a 363 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: little scary. 364 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: What did you say? 365 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: It was the wine twenty six and a half. 366 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under. I have it at twenty three, 367 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: So good line. But a couple of things, Like I said, 368 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: he's he's not getting a crazy amount of the design runs. 369 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: It's just that he's getting them near the goal line, 370 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: so he's getting with the right time. And sometimes you 371 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: have to do like two or three of those two 372 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: pushes in a row to get in, which kind of 373 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: inflates it even more. And I think the Titans are 374 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna leave receivers open. I think I think he's gonna 375 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: have some some obid receivers in the spot. So I'm 376 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: not expecting like in above, expectations scramble rate either for drones. 377 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, that that leaves me just with you know, 378 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: kind of hoping for like he gets stuffed and they 379 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: go right back to it again, which is tough. So yeah, 380 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna 381 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: go under that one. But that's that's a really good line. 382 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: And I mean, who do you like in this game? 383 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: Is this? 384 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: Is this where cam Wood gets his first win, first 385 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: road game for the Colts. Oh, because like the Neil downs, Yeah, 386 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: the player on favorites. 387 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 388 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: I think he'll have twenty five and then he'll kneel 389 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: it down twice to get twenty three. 390 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's a good call. 391 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: I haven't looked at it that level, but yeah, I 392 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: think the Titans would be a team I'd be willing 393 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: to buy in right now, especially just the Colts. The 394 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: market perception for them might be at its peak right now, 395 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: but the Titans are still figuring it out. 396 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: You know, they figured it out real quick. 397 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: Iomin Or should be starting over Van Jefferson and now 398 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: they're already convinced that DK should be in overlocket. So 399 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: they're still sorting out their personnel and things like that. 400 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: So they're just going to get better and better. And 401 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: I think Wards is going to get better and better. 402 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, this spot getting a plus roun aff at home. 403 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: It would not be shocked if that's where the sharp 404 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: money is in the cover. But but yeah, I thought 405 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: you were going to be over on Daniel Jones. I 406 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: would have probably said it like twenty four and a 407 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: half if I'm being honest. But just because we can't 408 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: bank on him. He scored three rushing touchdowns so far. 409 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: Like I said, we can't bake on that. We need 410 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: a higher rushing yard floor from him to really, you know, 411 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: maintain like a top ten status. 412 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: So that's just one of the things that I've. 413 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: Been kind of looking at his projection and noticed, you know, 414 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: the design run rate has been up around the goal line, 415 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: but not outside of that. So just an interesting projection 416 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: right now for Indiana Jones. 417 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why he's not like I guess, like 418 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: a smash in ecr as like you know, the QB 419 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: eight like sometimes you see these guys are when they pop, 420 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: because it's a little bit of a volatility factor. He 421 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: could just throw a couple of bombs to Alec Pierce 422 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: who goes down at like the five, and then Taylor 423 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: gets like three touchdowns, you know, like there's. 424 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's there. 425 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: You're right, he's not getting a ton of runs outside 426 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: they go on and then he also got it inflated 427 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: by like I think they they ran in like two 428 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: three straight times on one of those twitches. Are a 429 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: couple of those if I remember correctly. So you know, 430 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: short yardage backs, you can see that where they get 431 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: stuffed and they go right back to it. But with 432 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: a quarterback, it's going to be a lot more, uh 433 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, important because quarterbacks are only averaging you know, 434 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: like two to six attempts per game, and unless you're 435 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: like Lamar Hurts. So yeah, I think I think Jones 436 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: will have to do it a little more through the 437 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: I would love him to get more more on the ground. Now, 438 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: all right, let's go running back. Top five week number three. 439 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: Uh kind of little. It's some tough choices there we 440 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: got in your top five? Is it mccafrey number one? 441 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: Are you going somewhere else? 442 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: Bj? No? I got h B. 443 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: Jon Robinson number one, McCaffrey number two. Although Jonathan Taylor 444 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: was so close living my RB two. I think you're 445 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 3: high on him as well. And then I got Saquon Barkley, 446 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: and then I have Devon ah Chan and Bucky Irving 447 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: tied for number five. 448 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a lot of tough choices. I got McCaffrey, 449 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: Bijon Barkley, Taylor Uh and Josh Jacobs just because he 450 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: scores a touchdown every week and the package so good defensively. 451 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: But I do I kind of want to move Jacobs 452 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: out of the top five just because the past game usage. 453 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: But I mean, the Packers are big favorites against. It's tough, 454 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 4: but yeah, it's it's. 455 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: A crowded it's a crowded mix. But I think Taylor 456 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: is the one. You know, he talked about him in 457 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: the offseason. This guy is just quietly so good. He's 458 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: another guy with top speed. I think he had the 459 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: fastest speed of any ball carry or of any ball 460 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: carrier since like twenty twenty two or something like that. 461 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: So he's another guy that just keeps on keeping on, 462 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: and he plays more snaps than anyway, especially with Kyron 463 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: trending down. So I don't I wouldn't mind if you 464 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: had Taylor number one. 465 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: Honestly. 466 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I have Jacob's seventh right now. But like, 467 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 3: are you worried about just the Browns defense at all, 468 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 3: because they I mean they've stopped Chase Brown, although that's 469 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: happened two weeks now. But Derek Henry had eleven carries 470 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: for twenty three yards, so you know, he might not 471 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: have an efficient game, but probably you know, a ton 472 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: of volume to make up for it. 473 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I actually trust the Paths just run 474 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: like they've been so consistent running the football this like 475 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: over the past what twenty games that yeah, act that 476 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: their favorite. He's gonna get the ball. So yeah, but 477 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: you're right, I do want to move him out. I 478 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: think it would have to be for yeah, maybe an 479 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: e Chan, just because the Dolphins in that kind of 480 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: game script against Buffalo. I mean, Achan's got to catch 481 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: like ten balls. I mean maybe maybe if Waller, if 482 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: because the figment of our imagination is actually active, but 483 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's gonna be a Chan from 484 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: here on out. But yeah, some tough choices there, all right. 485 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: Who are you hiring at running back? 486 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: Tony Pollard? I know you were hiring him last week. 487 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm high on him, at least in Taj Spears returns. Pollard's, 488 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: you know, one of the true true workhorse backs right now. 489 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: This is his second straight game with like a ninety 490 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: percent snapwrate, rarely comes off the field. You know, they've 491 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: been in some pretty heavy trailing game scripts and he 492 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 3: didn't get a catch last week, so that's kind of 493 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: a concern, But also it means, you know, we're probably 494 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 3: gonna get more catches from him going forward. He's not 495 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 3: gonna get shut out as a pass catcher every week. 496 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: And the fact that they're only three and a half 497 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: point dogs, and I was gonna already say that they'll 498 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: probably keep this close at least closer than the first 499 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 3: two weeks, definitely helps Pollard a ton. So I think 500 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 3: he's just gonna see even more volume. He's already out 501 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 3: there every snap. I think they're gonna actually give him 502 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 3: the ball more this week as a result. So yeah, 503 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: he's my RB thirteen to open the week against the Colts. 504 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: So if you have him, just know that you have 505 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: like a high end RB two now and put potentially 506 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: the rest of the season, but especially until Spears can 507 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: return of the lineup. So love Polar this week. Very 508 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: high floor option. And then I'm high on Jalen Warren, 509 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: who's my RB twenty to open the week against the Patriots. 510 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: But you know, he's still operating as the clear lead 511 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: back in this offense. You know, he and gain Will 512 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: had been inefficient on the ground so far. A great 513 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: hit on the gain Will under rushing prop I think 514 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: that they just they can't make that happen. So it's 515 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 3: gonna lead to more carries I think for Warren long term. 516 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: And he really thrived in the passing game last week, 517 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: which has kind of been his bread and butter. Had 518 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: that amazing catch and run for like what sixty yards? 519 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: Just an amazing play. So I think he's going to 520 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: earn more playing time going forward. And I said i'd 521 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: stop picking on him after last week, but I have 522 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 3: to say that with you know, Caleb having that kickoff, 523 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: you know disaster, he's even more in the doghouse. So 524 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 3: that's just gonna lead to more Warren snaps and touches 525 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: as well. So Warren has a pretty high floor for 526 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: you know, the type of back he has been in 527 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: his career, And yeah, I think he's inside my top 528 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 3: twenty now and going forward. So I'm high on Warren 529 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: this week against the Patriots. 530 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they like I don't know what they were 531 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: doing with They must have miscalculated things because like they 532 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: drafted Johnson and he's just been terrible. I just a 533 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: football Like it's like almost like another pick is like 534 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: he's just making boneheaded decisions. Now is already in the dog. 535 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean he's pickings started like he was producing before 536 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: he got to. 537 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: That point, right Uh. 538 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: And then it's like everyone knows a game. I had 539 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: the worst success rate of all anyone with seventy five 540 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: characters and more last year. So you don't try to 541 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: make him into a runner, Like, I just don't know 542 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: what Pittsburgh. I don't know what they're doing sometimes. Uh, 543 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: sometimes they look like they know exactly what they're doing. 544 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes they just look cool with so yeah that that offense, 545 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: it's it's. 546 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: Gotta be Warren. He's he's the true talent. 547 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: He's the guy that they gave the contract to. Uh, 548 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: and I think they should achieve using. 549 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: Him like that, all right. 550 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: I am hi on Jordan Mason. Hell, he is ECR 551 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: RB twenty one. He's he's right there with Poward. Like 552 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: I think Mason's actually my RB thirteen. So you started 553 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: seeing him mixing for not just more early down carries, 554 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: which we kind of expected in Minnesota, but they were 555 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: using Jones and Mason interchangeably in the past game, and 556 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: that's something we really haven't seen too much out of 557 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: Mason in his career. But I did catch him just 558 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: throwing a nasty block, which is not great for his 559 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: receiving prospects. But I think the issue is, you know, 560 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: sometimes guys don't get out there because you don't trust 561 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: him the block. So the fact that he, you know, 562 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: looks like he can block. In Minnesota, you know they 563 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: need playmakers, and Mason he breaks tackles. He thoroughly outplayed 564 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: Jones before Jones got hurt. Anyway, in my opinion, I 565 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: know Jones had the touchdown catch, but Mason passed the 566 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: eye test. Now he's gonna get what I think is 567 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: gonna be true feature workload. Because ty chan whe the 568 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: number three back, went to IRS. So Xavier Scott is 569 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: I guess the number two running back. Has he even 570 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: had a regular season touch? I don't. I don't think 571 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: so it's. 572 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: So bizarre, and fantasy pros they have him as like 573 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: a wide receiver. I think he played. I don't know 574 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: what's going on with him. Uh did you see the 575 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: guy they have on the practice squad? Yeah, validate, Uh 576 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: he might be the guy that ends up being the 577 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: RB two, which is to say that Jordan Mason might 578 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: get every single snap this week. 579 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I think they like Scott. They like Scott, 580 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: but they like him in the past game. 581 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: Savan Valade is just like I know, we probably know 582 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: his name because we have to add him to the 583 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: sheet and remove him from the sheet. He signed to 584 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: a practice gud remember him for preseason though. He's just 585 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: the kim body. 586 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, obviously, but they got nothing behind Mason, which 587 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: is why he was an A grade my upside chart. 588 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: Where did you said? Where do you have him ranked 589 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: right now? 590 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: RB thirteen? But uh, I might even be too vocus 591 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: really past the eye test. And yeah, he could enter 592 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: that Tony powered Jonathan Taylor snap range real quick because 593 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: the vike Kevin o'conno is just I mean, it's gonna 594 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: be Carson Wentz like Kevin o'canno's got to give the 595 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: ball to Mason forty times. Please. 596 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have him RB twelve And I was gonna 597 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: say right there with you where it might be too low, 598 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: Like I would not be shocked if he gets like 599 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: twenty eight carries and three catches and Scott's in there 600 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: to pass block or something like it could And we 601 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: already saw Mason do this with with the Niners last year, 602 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: Like he's more than capable of handling a full workload. 603 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: But it just might be the Mason show here against 604 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: the Bengals, and the Bengals have Browning, they don't have 605 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, so you know, the Vikings will probably go 606 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: in with a very very conservative, run heavy approach. And 607 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: I think we're both probably too low on Mason right now. 608 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: And by the end of the week, who knows, he 609 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: could be inside of you know, our top eight, but 610 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: just has a massive, you know, four ceiling combo this week. 611 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like remember those those magical weeks where Alexander 612 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: Madison was putting up RB one numbers when Galvin Cook 613 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: would get hurt. It's like that, except Jordan Mason's actually 614 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: good at exactly I don't know how exact Madison was 615 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: in retrospect, but we do know like this this offense 616 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: definitely needs to get get right and uh yeah, after 617 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: we late the Jaguars ran on Cincy. I think I 618 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: think Mason will have some ops. 619 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: But Scott. 620 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Scott actually gets like a 621 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: designed screen kind of like almost like a Tutin but 622 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: only on like three snaps from scrimmage. Yeah, just because 623 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: like they like him. They like him in the past 624 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: game as a receiver, so I wouldn't be shocked to 625 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: see him like I might if his anytime touchdown odds 626 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: are long enough, I might like that. But I think 627 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Mason's probably be one of the favorites this week, So yeah, 628 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: but sure. Yeah, speaking of favorites, man, I mentioned a 629 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: tough start for rookies. I know you're on one of 630 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: them this week. 631 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, trigger on Henderson. He's all the way down to 632 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: RB thirty eight for me. You know, they they had 633 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 3: mentioned they wanted to shake up the running back quotation, 634 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: so I thought, you know, that was good news for Henderson. 635 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: I took. 636 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: I thought the prop to take his over on was 637 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: longest rush. They were floating ten and a half. One 638 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: of the many rakes I have stepped on to start 639 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: the year. I mean, just unbelievable, Like some of these 640 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: all get lucky on But man, I didn't know it 641 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: was gonna be Antonio Gibson being the one that was 642 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: going to see the huge increase. I mean, in hindsight, 643 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 3: it's not that much of a surprise. This is kind 644 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: of a vulnerable backfield. Gibson was great last year. You know, 645 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: I wasn't putting him off, you know, to be left 646 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: for dead. You know, I thought he was gonna make 647 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: some noise. But they're still gatekeeping Henderson for now. And 648 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: even Vrabel had mentioned that that deep pass to Mandre 649 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: that he was wide open for that game was actually 650 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: designed for Henderson. They ran that play for Henderson in practice, 651 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 3: and then it just so happened that Mare was in 652 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: that package. They just ran it to him. So fantasy 653 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: owners that have Henderson are just livid right now. 654 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: You should be. 655 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: He still has massive, massive upside. He's really done nothing 656 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: wrong so far. So I think you got to just 657 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: kind of leave him on your bench for now. Only 658 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: play him if you're in a pinch. He still might 659 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: make a big player two in this limited role, but 660 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: long long term, it would not shock me at some 661 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: point if he's you know, leading this backfield. So you 662 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: got to hold on him. You can't be you know, 663 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: dropping him or trading away for pennies on the dollar. 664 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: So I still like him long term, but my god, 665 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: right now he's off my radar RB thirty eight, and 666 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: the other guy I'm low on is my guy David 667 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 3: Montgomery all the way down to RB thirty three this 668 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: week against the Ravens. And this is after we saw, 669 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: you know, the Lions bounce back at home last week 670 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: in a big way. They scored fifty plus points. Monty 671 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: had a decent game eleven carries, fifty seven yards and 672 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: a touchdown. But they're right back in a lesson ideal 673 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: spot for Monty specifically, you know they're going to be 674 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: on the road outdoors against the Ravens, so likely a 675 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: trailing game script or at least a closer rue where 676 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: they can't lean on Monty as much. So this is 677 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: just you know, brutal spot for him. These are kind 678 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: of the weeks that you were saying he's gonna have 679 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: a lower floor this year, and that's the case my model. 680 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: You know RB thirty three to start the week, and 681 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 3: you know there's gonna. 682 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: Be some times you bention him. 683 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: This is probably the week and then you know, we'll 684 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 3: go right back to using him as like an RB 685 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: two flex option and better matchups. 686 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: But down on Monty this week as well. 687 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just their lines have too many playmakers too, 688 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: like they get they gotta get to Slaw more involved. 689 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: Jamo's great, so you know, just a lot of mouse 690 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: to feed and a tougher schedule. So I agree on Manty. 691 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: For me, I was gonna go with Jerome Ford, but 692 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: it looks like he is h He's fallen down with him, 693 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: so I'll say Tyrone Tracy because he looks like he 694 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: got jumped by camp Scattabo. I thought it would take 695 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: a little longer, but in that second half against the Cowboys, 696 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: Scataboo really was taking a majority of the snaps and 697 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: it was an ugly three way committee for most of 698 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: the year, and you know, still kind of is. But 699 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: I do think that Tracy kind of lost his shot 700 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: at running away with the future back role and you know, 701 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: just another one of these, you know, younger running backs 702 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: that hasn't kind of grabbed the bull by the horns 703 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: early on. So Tracy is a guy that, yeah, you 704 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: can't start him anymore. Scatterboo could be kind of a 705 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: fringe start. I'd still rather go with a guy like 706 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: tooting over him, but because he might need goal on 707 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: work to pay off. But Tyrone Tracy, you just don't 708 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get out of him now. It's 709 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: like he's he gonna be the pass down back, probably 710 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: not gonna be the goal line back. 711 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: Like it just could be a lot of empty production 712 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: for him. 713 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: And I was about to go with Pachecko because he's 714 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: doing exactly what I thought he would, but the Giants 715 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: have been just abysmal against the run, So I'll hold 716 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: off on I'll give I'll give Pacheco another week to 717 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: get right and see what happens. All right, running back, 718 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: prop gotta go with Blake krum here because I know 719 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: this is your guy, know you've been waiting for I'm 720 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 1: gonna take over the backfield, But I also know never 721 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: fully trust Sean McGray was running back, So I don't 722 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: know what to do with korm because I thought he 723 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: would really good, But uh, is this gonna be the 724 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: week he finally, you know, starts getting a consistent you know, 725 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: forty percent plus usager? Does he go back down, I'm 726 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: gonna set his rushing yardage line at twenty four and 727 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: a half. 728 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I wish, I wish that was the case, 729 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 3: that he would just overtake Kiren. I have given all 730 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 3: hope of that, especially after the contract. But that that's great. 731 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna push to get more work. That's 732 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 3: a great prop. I have him at twenty three. I 733 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 3: only have him at five carries, but since I'm a 734 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: believer in Koram's raw talent, I'm gonna take over. So 735 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: I need him to pop on at least one of 736 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 3: those five carries. So I believe in you, Blake. I 737 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: believe in you. I'm gonna take your over. So but yeah, 738 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 3: I do not think he's gonna leap frog Kyen anytime soon. 739 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: And I don't I don't want to sell. 740 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: I'm not rooting for Kiren to get hurt. I'm just saying, 741 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: if Kiren goes down, Blake will be an RB one. 742 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 3: And most running backs miss two to three games in 743 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 3: the season. Kyen has yet to miss a game since 744 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 3: Blake has been there. So so I'm going to say, 745 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 3: and I think for now, I'm only projecting Blake for 746 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 3: like five six carries. Not going to get too excited, 747 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: but those goal line carries. If he does start getting 748 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: those goal line carries, watch out then then he could 749 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 3: really offer some RB three flex stal in value. 750 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: But great prop. 751 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: As always, I'm right there with you, but I have 752 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 3: to bet on my boy hair give me the over. 753 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: I figured you would, and I will say this when 754 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: the Rams traded Cody Schrader, like you think I'm joking, 755 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:49,959 Speaker 1: but like. 756 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 2: No, you're not fringe. 757 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's my thing. Yeah, like that was what 758 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: kind of said, everything looks like okay, Sean mcvray, fine, 759 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: we trusts. It was either he trust Korum or dark 760 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: Wez was gonna start getting like snaps and be like 761 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: Rodnie Rivers story inside. Yeah, but thankfully it's Korum and 762 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: he went good and uh yeah, Kyron's just been I 763 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: won't to say four yards and a crowd of dust 764 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: because that's not a cloud of dust, but very consistent, 765 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: like not explosiveness at all. 766 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: No, that was horrible watching his prop. Never doing that again, 767 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 3: do not recommend. But we almost had Blake Korum and 768 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 3: Zach Sharboney do well, oh Man, Kenneth Walker the third 769 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 3: and unfortunately Rboney did his best hiring impression, I guess. 770 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 3: So it was Kenneth Walker week, but I digress like 771 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: high on both, high on both long term, but not 772 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 3: a great week for us charbone owners. 773 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah that was I mean, it's just like the usage 774 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: was there, but yeah, he just turned into what Kenneth 775 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: Walker had been statistically as a runner over insub spots. 776 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: But yeah, just kind of high variant Scott. I'm sure 777 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: they'll all bounce back, but we'll get into wide receiver 778 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: in a second. Just want to remind you to get 779 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: the most out of the Action Network app. You want 780 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: to be an Action Pro subscriber. Only pro subscribers, you 781 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: can get a real time pickle words from experts like 782 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: Sean Kerner, Stucky, Nick Giffin, Joe Gallant and the entire 783 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: Action Network team. Maybe next time I try to bet 784 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: a plus twenty eight hundred touchdown, you'll get that alert. 785 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: So that's that's reason a signe up. 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Sometimes 796 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: but I don't feel as confident like in the order 797 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:13,959 Speaker 1: this year. 798 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it's been kind of boring the 799 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 3: first two weeks with all you know, top fives. I 800 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 3: think this week is pretty spicy at wide receiver. Not 801 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 3: gonna lie number one for me. It's already spicy number one. 802 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm going there, Poka Nakua, he might be the rams 803 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 3: RB one. 804 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 2: Did you see that? Uh? 805 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 3: This guy keeps getting bad. I don't know how is 806 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 3: he even impossible? Raybond? How can he get better? Maybe 807 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 3: if he scores touchdowns that would really blow the lid off, 808 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 3: because ceiling he just doesn't score touchdowns. But uh, wide 809 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 3: receiver one for me. Then I got Ceedee Lamb Justin 810 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 3: Jefferson who has a new quarterback now Malik Neighbors and 811 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: JSN is now a top five wide receiver. And I 812 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 3: have Jamar Chase just outside wide receiver six. Just so 813 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 3: absolutely chaotic week at wide receiver up top in my opinion. 814 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: Here, you're just you're not feeling this this Browning guy 815 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 1: like Chase out of it, didn't Chase. Chase went off 816 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: with Browning. 817 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 2: That's what I say. 818 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 3: Like, No, Chase's value is still stable. And once again 819 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 3: it's Tuesday morning. We can't judge each other based on 820 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 3: our initials. I'm sure I'll go up on him, but 821 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 3: losing Burrow is you know, massive hit to like touchdown 822 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: upside at least, and how like, how can you take 823 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 3: any anything away from like neighbors or JSN? 824 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: Who JSN? 825 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 3: I was mentioning to leave the league in receptions at 826 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 3: twenty to one, was a good bet he might be 827 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 3: on his way at this point. So just a lot 828 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 3: of good options is nothing against Jamar Chase, and he'll 829 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 3: probably end up in my top five by the end 830 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 3: of the week. Not gonna lie, but I thought it 831 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 3: was very interesting seeing him six and all the guys 832 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 3: in the top five, I can't argue against them. 833 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: So that's my top six to open the week. 834 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, now, I hear you. I gotta I got 835 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: Chased over one. Still, I still trust him a little 836 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: more than Jefferson, just because of what's going on with 837 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: the Vikings offense. I mean he's been the one standing 838 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: on the They've been doing the slow mo of him 839 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: just going pouting, and you know that's never going that happens. 840 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: But like Carson Wentz could be worse than MacArthur's. I 841 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: actually I do think Browning can. We've seen seven games 842 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: a little more a little more confidence in him. So 843 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 1: that's why I still have him. Then have Wam because yeah, 844 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: I expect to a shootout there. Jefferson third, the crew 845 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: of fourth, I do want to be a little bit 846 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: careful because it's the Eagles. You know, I still respect 847 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: their back and you know, secondary not as good as last. 848 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 4: Year obviously with just the exodus of. 849 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: Town and all that, but uh, Devonte Adams is still there, 850 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: so going forward with him, and then Neighbor is rounding 851 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: out the top five. Another guy like I don't feel 852 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: as great about him this week because I did last week, 853 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: just because the Chiefs, like they gave up one play 854 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: in the past game last week I know that was 855 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 1: you know, like Herbert went him up. But you never 856 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: know what a gain it with Russ, right, like it's 857 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: are you getting five hundred yard Russ? Or one hundred 858 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: yard Russ. I don't know, so yeah that he's down 859 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: a five for me, but yeah, this is this is 860 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: the top five. I just yeah, I'm a little I 861 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 1: never know of the order, Like I'm not as common 862 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: last year it was just like Chase Jefferson. Yeah, and 863 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: then you gotta went from there. But it could be 864 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 1: interesting to see how it goes. 865 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 2: Who you high? 866 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 3: My guy, Romo Dune's a wide receiver eleven baby against 867 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 3: the Cowboys this week seven catches one hundred and twenty 868 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 3: yards two touchdowns against the Lions. Kind of the game 869 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 3: I've been waiting for for two years now from this guy. 870 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 3: Seems to be like the only thing working in this 871 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 3: offense is Rome, you know, and like he and Caleb 872 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 3: just some of those passes. That arm angle on that 873 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 3: second touchdown was absolutely insane. There is also a play 874 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: where Caleb rolled out, you know, one of those chaotic 875 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 3: Caleb plays, and he just chucked it downfield to Rome. 876 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 2: He had like four lions on him and it hit 877 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 2: his hands. Did you see that? Oh yea play like 878 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 2: those are play Rome? 879 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 3: Doesn't that Like if Caleb throws a pick or has 880 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 3: a disastrous play, that doesn't impact Rome at all, but 881 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 3: Caleb is forcing the ball to him. He's clearly the 882 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 3: centerpiece of this offense right now. So with a matchup 883 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 3: here at home against the Cowboys, who've been torched by 884 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 3: opposing wide receivers so far, like, I'm high as ever 885 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 3: in my model, So yeah, he's all the way up 886 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 3: to wide receiver eleven for me. And then just real quickly, 887 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 3: a guy that you already hit on on the waiver pod, 888 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 3: I agree with one hundred and ten percent, and that's 889 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 3: Windale Robinson. He's my wide receiver thirty seven, just you know, 890 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 3: continues to draw a shit ton of targets. Starting to 891 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: see some downfield targets too. I know you mentioned that, 892 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 3: but that's excellent with Russell Wilson there so kind of 893 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 3: gives him a high floor ceiling combo we haven't seen 894 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 3: quite yet. And this is a matchup against the Chiefs 895 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,439 Speaker 3: where they should be pass heavy throughout the game and 896 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 3: Darius Slayton potentially the cardio king next week, we'll see. 897 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: But he's just running, you know, clearing out. 898 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 3: Things for you know, neighbors in Wandale. So just love 899 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 3: the setup for Windale right now. So yeah, he's a 900 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 3: wide receiver thirty seven, very high floor wide receiver three 901 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 3: flex type option so Wandale. 902 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: Last year targets of twenty yards or more five all year, 903 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: one catch. This year, through two games, he has four 904 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: and three catches, so he's one off his entire year 905 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: total from last year. He already has triple with the 906 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: amount of catches bucks seven and a tuddy on such throws. 907 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: That's just perfect because yeah, he's getting that number two 908 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: guy every week eight catches. 909 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 3: Usually a line for him would be eight catches thirty 910 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 3: yards and no touchdowns. This week it was eight catches, 911 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty two yards in a touchdown. This 912 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 3: is like a brand new receiver. And I used to 913 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 3: attack his longest reception prop is always like fifteen and 914 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 3: a half, just because he gets so many catches. Like 915 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 3: sometimes you'll slip one for a lot, but not him. 916 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 3: He was always under do not attack that market anymore. 917 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 3: Like he is just running routes all around the field 918 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 3: and just I think still just under the radar. I 919 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 3: don't see enough people kind of talking about him, but 920 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 3: he's really become, you know, one of the solid wide 921 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 3: receiver three options out there. 922 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you just have to use him everywhere 923 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: on the food because he's fast and he can get 924 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: open like Slayton is like you know, like you said, 925 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: more of a cardio king, a little stiff. Are gonna 926 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: kind of have to run a lot of those sideline routes. 927 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: When you have a receiver like that, you can't use 928 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: him in as many spots just in terms of the 929 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: route combinations. So yeah, Wandale kind of the best of 930 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: both worlds right now. Like that year was last year 931 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: when the Falcons just used Ray Ray mcclod or like 932 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: ninety percent routes, like because Cons was you couldn't give 933 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: them anything for whatever reason. Yeah, it's like this is 934 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: one day on the Giants. He's uh, just popping right now, 935 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,240 Speaker 1: even though he's more of like that Douglas Archety. 936 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Douglas. 937 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 3: I was gonna say that's he's probably what they wanted 938 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 3: Canarius Tony to be. 939 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, oh jam and Hyatt Canary is Tony. 940 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, Wendale is the second round pick for 941 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 3: a reason. 942 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 2: Very talented wide receiver. 943 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: All right, I'm hiring Jamison Williams. He is, like this 944 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: is the kind of matchup for him. The Lions are 945 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 1: going against a Baltimore team that maybe the highest scoring 946 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: team in the league. When it's all said of done, 947 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: if it's not the Lions, or it's not maybe the 948 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. So that's not often that the Lions have 949 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: been in these type of matchups, but this year talked 950 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 1: about it. Their schedules a lot harder and they're forced 951 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: to throw a lot more, and Jams not always going 952 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: to be a high volume guy, but the Lions are 953 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: still efficient enough that he usually pops at least once 954 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: every like four targets four or five. And this is 955 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: one of these games where Jared goff and no it's 956 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: outdoors and late, but he could throw more than he 957 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: throws or more than he's thrown in almost every game 958 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: over the past. I want to say, what season, season 959 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: and a half. I mean, this totals up at fifty one. 960 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: The lines are six point dogs, so this is just 961 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 1: a you know, this is not a spot the lines 962 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: are usually in so love Jamo, and there's a lot 963 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: of other kind of you know guys that are just 964 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 1: could be in game scripts because with wide receivers it's 965 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: gamescript can be an issue. Like look Drake London, now 966 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: is he still gonna be as consistent now that the 967 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: Falcons defense is better. Marvin Harrison Like, what's going on 968 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: with him? Like, you know, Lad McConkie has more challengers. 969 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf Like where's he? Like, this is there's just 970 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: a weird kind of mid tier. We kind of talked 971 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: about that frozen pond here and it's already kind of 972 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: popping up here. So yeah, feel more confident in a 973 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: guy like Jamo than I do with some of these 974 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 1: other guys. Who are you low receiver? 975 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, i'mlow one. Our guy, Travis Hunter wide receiver fifty 976 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 3: one open the week against the Texans, but he saw 977 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 3: a slight down tick in offensive snaps. Granted the week 978 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 3: I go in on his receiving prop over, I actually 979 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 3: broke even this week. Everybody, I didn't have that bad way, 980 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 3: but he was. He's still only using three wide receiver 981 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 3: sets and he even played in fewer this week because 982 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 3: during Jones the defense, he left the game with a 983 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 3: back injury. So it's almost like they had to use 984 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 3: Hunter more at corner because of that, so it kind 985 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 3: of took it did take away from his offensive snaps. 986 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 3: So that's kind of the first time I saw you know, 987 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 3: the potential of you know, the fact that he plays 988 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 3: defense eight away at his potential upside as a wide receiver. 989 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 3: But you know, at the same time, Brian Thomas Junior 990 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 3: is dealing with some serious yips and apparently he has 991 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 3: the risk injury, so we got to kind of monitor that. 992 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 3: If he's out or they think that they need Hunter 993 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 3: to play more offense, that'll change my projection for him. 994 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 3: But he's just been a fascinating player to project these 995 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 3: first few weeks now and this week I'm on the 996 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 3: sit him side of things. Wide receiver fifty one, Really 997 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 3: curious to hear where you have him ranked and kind 998 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 3: of what you're thinking projecting him this week. 999 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I think he's gonna be in the forties 1000 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: for me because the one thing kind of holding me 1001 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: back from being down on him is that, like you said, 1002 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: the other Jags receivers have been having their own issues. 1003 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, now it's week three, it's 1004 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: not gonna you know, the cornerback depth is not going 1005 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: to kind of take comby surprise, so they can kind 1006 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: of make other arrangements. But I just think they need 1007 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: to work Huntering more in the red zone and down 1008 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, more down the field because it's just been 1009 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: kind of a comedy of errors. I think everyone's frustrated. 1010 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: It's not hasn't been bad for the Jaguars, but they 1011 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 1: should absolutely be two and zero. But they just miss 1012 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 1: so many opportunities. And we've seen this out of Lawrence 1013 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: in the past, but we do see like the opportunities 1014 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: are there this year. It's like the play calls a 1015 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: lot better. Guys are just dropping balls or Lawrence is 1016 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 1: missing him. And so we saw Parker Washington get six catches, 1017 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: six targets, twelve routes. Hunter is a guy that absolutely 1018 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: can do something similar. So that's why I like, if 1019 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: he's getting thirty seven at receiver or like what forty 1020 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: something at receiver and then thirty at corner even I'm 1021 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: still fine with that, So twenty eight like forty snaps, 1022 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 1: but yeah, like I think that's more than enough if 1023 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: we if Washington can get six and twelve, So yeah, 1024 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to be totally down on him. I 1025 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: just don't think he goes too much longer without a 1026 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: blow up. So yeah, it's frustrating. This is why I 1027 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: hate week two because because it's a two weeks it's 1028 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: like it's like, yeah, that's not enough data. So yeah, 1029 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna still hold out hope. This 1030 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: is a guy the after all number two pick. But yeah, rookie, 1031 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: some of his rookies getting up to so stuck that 1032 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 1: everyone can be a Mecca Bouka. I guess exactly anyone 1033 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: else you are low on? 1034 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just real quick Quillan Sutton for me, just 1035 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 3: coming off one catch, one catch, six game DoD I 1036 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 3: mean obviously. 1037 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 2: You know, bad game for him. 1038 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 3: Not concerned about him long term, but his snap rate 1039 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 3: was down seventy seven percent routes run rate. It was 1040 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 3: Franklin led the wide receiver group with a ninety percent. 1041 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 2: Routes run rate. 1042 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 3: Uh. You know, Sutton his appeal was his high floor. 1043 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 3: You know, he was the only stable part of this offense. 1044 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 3: So if he's getting mixed up with Sean Payton's you know, 1045 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 3: weekly mix up, that's not good for his floor. So 1046 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 3: you know, his high floor seems to be compromised at 1047 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 3: the moment. Not saying drop Sutton or even bench him, 1048 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 3: but he is my wide receiver thirty five this week, 1049 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 3: so he's probably going to be involved in more start 1050 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 3: questions than people probably. 1051 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 2: Liked heading in the season. 1052 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 3: I think it'll stabilize going forward, but just this week, 1053 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 3: we have to be careful. Like you said, it's week three. 1054 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 3: We can't really over underreact on the small sample. But 1055 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 3: it is a small sample, but just something I noticed, 1056 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 3: and for someone who relies on a high floor, that 1057 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 3: could be a concern for him. So yeah, a little 1058 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 3: bit lower than usual with him, with him opening up 1059 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 3: the week at wide receiver thirty five. 1060 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, this again, this is why I hate week three. 1061 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: It's so challenging because especially Start Payton because yeah, just 1062 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: you know, like seeing ye Sutton had that game, they 1063 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: might just plan a future a different receiver every week. 1064 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean they got because remember they drafted uh Pat Bryant. 1065 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: What is that round day two? He hasn't even really 1066 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: done anything either, so I mean, did Evan Ingram? Where 1067 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: is he? Like You're gonna in an Ingram game at 1068 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: some point, a Sutton game, a Bryant game, a Harvey game. 1069 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, the Broncos are really frustrating. I don't want 1070 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: to move off Suddon yet, but yeah, you can't have him. 1071 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: He might no one might be consistent on the Broncos, 1072 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: and that's kind of what we alloted to. And even Bow, 1073 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: I mean, at least bo Nixt he's just he's just 1074 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: kind of making mistakes. But you know, he runs and 1075 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: he throws and it's kind so it's kind of like 1076 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 1: a little k webbin him. Uh there. So yeah, uh yeah, 1077 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of waiting to see on him too, but 1078 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to overreact either. Uh one one guy, 1079 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: I am low one and this is more of just 1080 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,720 Speaker 1: uh like he has been playing decently well. But Jakobe Myers, 1081 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a guy that I think the 1082 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna kind of be the odd man out. He 1083 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: might have realized as much, which is why he demanded 1084 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: or trade and they didn't grant it, and then Cooper came, 1085 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: but then Cooper retired. Everything is weird. But Washington plays 1086 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: a very high rateed man coverage and Myers is more 1087 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: of their zone guys because you know, they got a 1088 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: bunch of underneath guys though that I think they should 1089 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: be kind of getting the ball two more like Bowers, 1090 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 1: Michael Mayer probably should be more involved than the gent 1091 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 1: He still hasn't gotten going. And then you got the 1092 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: rookie Thornton down the field, just Tucker, So like there's 1093 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: just so many options. I don't think Myers is getting 1094 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 1: eleven targets every week, and he has been the guy 1095 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 1: to kind of take a step back against man coverage looks, 1096 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: and that Washington has been really the only team playing 1097 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: it at a pretty highly consistent rate. You know, most 1098 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: teams are gonna be playing zone like two thirds or 1099 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 1: more of the time, whereas Washington is man coverage over 1100 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: fifty percent through two weeks per FTN. So if that continue, 1101 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 1: you know, it might not continue to that level, but 1102 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: that's usual, Like it seems to be what they want 1103 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 1: to do. 1104 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 4: I just think after that nineteen play was at nineteen 1105 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 4: play sixty. 1106 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 1: Two yard field goal drive, I think they're gonna try 1107 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: to be more aggressive, and that would I think Myyers 1108 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: would kind of the odd man out, and he needs 1109 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: high volume to really kind of pay off. He's not 1110 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 1: gonna be like an adr catch guy or you know, 1111 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: thought he was a red zone guy at one point, 1112 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's gonna be that with Bowers 1113 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 1: and Thornton and Mayor and gent On this squad. So yeah, 1114 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 1: it just kind of could be a lot of empty usage, 1115 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: even if he does get it. 1116 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 3: For Jacobin, I'm gonna go with our guy, Brian Thomas 1117 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 3: Junior again dealing with the yips. I saw in preseason 1118 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 3: Lawrence thro him a hospital ball, and anytime he's getting 1119 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 3: a target over the middle, you can kind of see 1120 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,280 Speaker 3: he's like he can't trust Lawrence right now. Bad vibes 1121 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 3: in Jacksonville, let's just put it that way. So one 1122 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 3: of the toughest Week three props, it might opinion, ray Vine, 1123 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 3: what are we doing here? I'm gonna set at sixty 1124 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 3: four and a half. See what you say. 1125 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 1: It's tough too, because Houston is good you would think 1126 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,399 Speaker 1: should be. They've been bad statistically. 1127 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 3: There's two games, it's wait three, My goodness, I forgot 1128 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 3: about that element. But yeah, just the Buccaneers just just 1129 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 3: drove the field. I don't know how the game ended 1130 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 3: up being that close, but yeah, the Texans defense did 1131 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 3: not look great. But I get how do we take 1132 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 3: anything away from two weeks? 1133 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean, see, I don't think the vibes are bad 1134 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: in jackson I think I think the vibes over that 1135 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: last week well stretch a B. But I think overall, 1136 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: like the team they're doing what they needed to do. 1137 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 4: It's just like it's like there's clearly something there. 1138 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: So I do think they try to feature Hunter more 1139 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: than we had the Parker Washington like thing. And then 1140 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: it's like you think Stingley is hurt, is hurt because 1141 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: remember he went down in one and he was like 1142 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,439 Speaker 1: rising in pain because him here miss right, Yeah, I'm 1143 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: gonna go. 1144 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you're right. 1145 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 3: I honestly hope this is something I lose because I 1146 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 3: do not want BTJ to become some you know, joke. 1147 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, see what I'm saying, this is a tough, tough, 1148 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 3: tough projection right now. 1149 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I like, it's usually you're not gonna 1150 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 1: So he went one what was it, one for one 1151 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: catch on seven, one catch on seven targets in week one, 1152 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: and then a week two he goes four on twelve. 1153 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: So he's now five for nineteen in terms of catches 1154 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: to targets. That is what a catch rate of that? 1155 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 3: Like twenty six, twenty eight, twenty six. Yeah, it's terrible, 1156 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 3: and they look bad like he's dropping them and like 1157 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 3: he's alligator arming it. Now, I'll try to find you 1158 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 3: the play I'm talking about from preseason, you'll you'll see 1159 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 3: he just gets blasted over the middle. And that's that's 1160 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,439 Speaker 3: my theory right now, is he's just kind of worried 1161 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 3: about that and doesn't trust Lauren to not set him 1162 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 3: up like that. 1163 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 2: Again. 1164 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that like, I mean, it might Lawrence might just 1165 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: be the guy with the bad vibes that's holding everything bad. 1166 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: Because but then again, I mean, the receivers didn't do 1167 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: it many fings. But I just I trust Liane Cohne, 1168 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: I trust Thomas's talent, and I just feel like, with 1169 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 1: it going as bad as it has, I feel like 1170 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 1: Hunter and Thomas both just have to be in tandem 1171 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: huge parts of the game plan, because that's really I 1172 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be kind of complimentary, like, you know, 1173 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: you have to focus in on Thomas. You got Hunter, 1174 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: You have to focus in on Hunter. It's like pick 1175 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: your poison. They have to get that threat going. They 1176 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: have the running back tandem. It looks like Strange is 1177 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: playing well. Uh and you know, even Diami Brown still 1178 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: catching touchdowns even though he's missing some of them too. 1179 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: So I really think that, yeah, it's gonna you're gonna 1180 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: se a concerted effort this weekend. Something's up with Houston. 1181 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: Last year it was like Stroud and this year it's 1182 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's maybe strout a little bit, but it's 1183 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: more so just like the play calling is weird, defense 1184 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: was weird, everything which is weird. 1185 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 3: He's got a bad Vibes Bowl. In my opinion, whoever 1186 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 3: loses this game is just done. 1187 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: For finishing off tight ends. 1188 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 3: Top five Trey McBride, Brock Bowers, Tyler Warren, Travis Kelcey, 1189 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 3: and Tucker Kraft. 1190 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I got my bride, Bower's Craft, Kelsey Warren. 1191 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: The only thing holding Warren back at this point is 1192 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: like he's like you got Taylor, you got Jones, and 1193 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: then out of Pierce looms and like he's not like 1194 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 1: a great touchdown man, and then Kelsey's just giving him 1195 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 1: away out there. So Tucker Craft seems to be the 1196 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: guy just he can he can pop explosives and you 1197 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: can get into the end zone. So I'll take it. 1198 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how long. I mean it probably asked 1199 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 1: now that read is out too, right, like Tuny Craft's 1200 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: been so so good? 1201 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah so. 1202 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 3: Oh and uh Jake Fergus and just miss a tight 1203 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 3: end sicks like where the hell did he come from. 1204 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 3: He's I'm high on him as well, but chaos at 1205 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 3: tight end as always. 1206 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's one of those things where like you, well, 1207 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, we expect to have another shootout against the Bears. 1208 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: So but it's like everyone had so many yards in 1209 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: that game, like the Giants. Now they go play the 1210 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Eagles have like one hundred yards passing, 1211 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: so like so I hate, Yeah, it's tough man, but 1212 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 1: uh Craft pass of the eye tests. So he's the 1213 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: guy I feel confident about. Obviously, Warren does as well 1214 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 1: and Chelsea. Even Chelsea looks I think athletically a little better, 1215 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 1: but he's making more of the mental errors. But I 1216 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 1: mean they have to continue to go to him in 1217 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 1: the in the red zone because they got all these 1218 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: deep they want to go deepot and they have all 1219 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: these like Marchis Browns and Worthies and Thornton's and like 1220 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 1: Juici is not gonna threaten a defense. That's why he's not, 1221 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, still getting a thousand yard seasons. So yeah, 1222 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 1: I think Chelsea will rebound, but man, uh or or 1223 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: does he just go the way of like Mark and 1224 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, uh who are you? 1225 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 2: Who are you? Hi? 1226 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I was all excited right by coming 1227 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 3: on here. I had Craft in my top five. I 1228 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 3: was gonna say I was high on him. You're higher 1229 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 3: than tight end three. I'm jealous. Yeah, Tucker Craft, I 1230 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 3: might be there with you by the end of the 1231 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 3: week if I'm being honest. But Tucker Craft has been 1232 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 3: just a beast in the red zone after the catch 1233 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 3: throughout his career. He just hadn't been seeing the target 1234 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 3: rate you'd kind of want to see from a stud 1235 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 3: tight end. So you know, heading in the season, the 1236 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 3: Packers coaches kind of made a plan to get him 1237 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 3: more involved, and they have you know, held true to 1238 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 3: that so far through the first two weeks, where he's 1239 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 3: seen a twenty percent plus target eight in each game, 1240 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 3: and that play design by Lafour on that long catch 1241 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 3: and run was phenomenal. So they're actively scheming Tucker Craft 1242 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,439 Speaker 3: to get open right now. And he's already really good 1243 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 3: after the catch and already a red zone monster. So yeah, 1244 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 3: top five for me and putent actually top three by 1245 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,479 Speaker 3: vand of the week. 1246 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just you could just see that's what they 1247 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 1: must be seeing in practic like they got all these 1248 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: wide receivers, but Tucker Craft still kind of stands out 1249 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,959 Speaker 1: as their most explosive weapon. I know, you know, love 1250 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: golden but they're just kind of near misses. But Tucker Craft, 1251 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: you can just throw it to him five yards beyond 1252 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and he just does the rest. 1253 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean, He's just a monster. So yeah, I think 1254 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 1: it continues. 1255 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 1256 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm high on Harold Fannin Junior. I think that this 1257 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 1: is a good spot for him, even though it's a 1258 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: really tough matchup, you know, Fan and Junior, probably not 1259 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 1: the best week for any time touchdown, but he's getting 1260 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: so much volume right off the bat. That and that 1261 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: combined within Nadjoku trade rumors make me think that this 1262 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: guy Fannin just thoroughly out played him in practice, and 1263 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 1: we're kind of seeing that on the field, like fans 1264 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: just getting open more and the Packers one of the 1265 01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 1: highest rate zone coverage defenses, and I mean, no surprise, 1266 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: they've been controlling games, so they they kind of allowed 1267 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 1: themselves that opportunity. But that is going to benefit a 1268 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: guy like Fannin because he again is more surprising Nadjoku, 1269 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,919 Speaker 1: who you know, more physical guy, maybe in the red zone. 1270 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: But the Browns may not be getting in the red 1271 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 1: zone as much, just with all they got going on 1272 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: the line, and you know, now they're up against the Packers. 1273 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 1: So I think that this is a this is a 1274 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 1: good Fanning game. Tillman not a great receiver against zone. 1275 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 1: I know you got the lucky touchdown, but and then 1276 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: Judy talk about bad vibes. I mean, he's dropping passes 1277 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 1: and you just don't know what you're gonna get out 1278 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: of him. 1279 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 4: And then they're going a lot of running back targets 1280 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 4: as well. 1281 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 2: Two of their three. 1282 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,040 Speaker 1: Running backs are kind of past, past catching types, so 1283 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: I think, but Fannin still eating the way here. Uh 1284 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: So you don't usually see like last when we saw 1285 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 1: a rookie start like this, it was like, you know, 1286 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts uh rookie year or like a Laporta type season. 1287 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: So I'm not ruling that out yet for Fan and 1288 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to just because it's like I don't 1289 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: want to make the same mistake we made with Bowers 1290 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: last year where he's like, oh, well, Mayer's there, so 1291 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: can you ever fully reach his ceiling? Yes, Howard Fannin's 1292 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,439 Speaker 1: already catching you know, five plus balls in his first 1293 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: two games. I think the ceiling is pointing up, the 1294 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: hours pointing up. When the ceiling, Yeah, I. 1295 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 2: Wanted to ask you real quick. 1296 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 3: You know, obviously I think Fannon has massive upside, especially 1297 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 3: if Djoku gets traded long term, but long term we 1298 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 3: might see Flacco get benched for probably Dylan Gabriel. At 1299 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 3: this point, do you think that would help hurt neither 1300 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 3: Fannin's value with or without Nadjoku. 1301 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 1: I think it would probably just remain the same because 1302 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: Flacco has a way of throwing like forty eight passes 1303 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: every game, and so like he's good in that sense 1304 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: that they're just like, you know, like he's either like 1305 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: he'll throw a deep pass if that's quick, or he'll 1306 01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 1: get picked six, or he'll just do a ton of 1307 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: dump ball. So like, either way, that's good for Fanning. 1308 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 1: But I think if Gabriel comes in, it will probably 1309 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 1: mean the Browns are just kind of in that true 1310 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: we gotta see what we got in our young guys mode, 1311 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: and that's when you probably will likely see Fanning overtaking 1312 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: a joker if he hasn't already, or maybe that's why 1313 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: we'll see the trades. So either way, I think like 1314 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: the fact that Fanning has come out of the gate 1315 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: like this, and we're talking about other guys who haven't. 1316 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Henderson, Harvey, you know, even I mean Bill 1317 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: was quiet last week for the most part. A lot 1318 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 1: of these Caleb Johnson, a lot of these rookies struggling. 1319 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 1: But seven catches in week one, five in week two, 1320 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 1: and that's this is tight end you're talking about here. Yeah, 1321 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 1: you just don't see that very often. So I think 1322 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 1: you gotta I think you gotta just take a shot 1323 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: here because tight ends so much outside of we're like, 1324 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: we don't know who the hell to rank like the sixth. 1325 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 4: Half the time at tight end. So yeah, yeah, I'm 1326 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 4: bullish on. 1327 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm mister fan Year. Who are you not bush on 1328 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 1: going for this week? 1329 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 2: Well, here we go again. 1330 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 3: Mark Andrews for me, you know, another brutal start to 1331 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 3: the season for him, one catch for five yards and 1332 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 3: then last week one catch for two yards. And this 1333 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 3: is with Isaiah likely out, so that's really bad and 1334 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 3: likely could be back as soon as this week. So 1335 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 3: how the hell can you rank? How can you be 1336 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 3: playing Andrews in fantasy? He's all the way down to 1337 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 3: tight end twenty for me. Having said that we've seen 1338 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 3: this time and time again. This means he's going three 1339 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 3: catches twenty nine yards and two touchdowns this week, bucket, 1340 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 3: but I can't project that, so he's tied end twenty 1341 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 3: for me. Just his floor is so low. He's obviously 1342 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 3: he's a touchdown or bust right now. But you know, 1343 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 3: if likely to potentially coming back, it's just it's tough 1344 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 3: to trust him, especially if he's not scoring the touchdowns. 1345 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 3: So we saw this last year when he got off 1346 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 3: to slow start ended up having you know, a great season. 1347 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 3: But I don't know, it just seems like the writing's 1348 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 3: on the wall of him, and I think likely is 1349 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 3: going to be more involved this year potentially when he 1350 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 3: does return. So low on Mark Andrews heading into the 1351 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 3: infamous Week three projections. 1352 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and with Andrews, I think I will say, I 1353 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: think it's a little bit more concerning than a guy 1354 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,560 Speaker 1: like Brian Thomas, who you know, or even like a 1355 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 1: gay round for that matter. You know, you could just 1356 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,719 Speaker 1: get the we know these guys are just monsters, whereas 1357 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 1: with Andrews you don't quite know. And it's some of 1358 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 1: these tight ends they're like they're slot receivers, right. So 1359 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 1: the run game has become more and more important in 1360 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 1: the league, you know, after everyone went all you know, 1361 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 1: defenses are trying to go into high show trying to 1362 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 1: protect against the explosive pass. You have to you have 1363 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: to kind of go back to the run game and 1364 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: kind of play off that. And Andrew's just not really 1365 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,879 Speaker 1: always gonna be relied on it as a run blocker 1366 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 1: over some of the other guys on the roster like 1367 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 1: l Card and h Kohlar and Mitchell Patten and like, 1368 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 1: there's just so many other guys, so I think sometimes 1369 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 1: he just and then Lamar is so good that he 1370 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 1: can he can hit it. Davonte's Walker played five ran 1371 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: five routes, score two touchdowns class like, this is how 1372 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: good Lamar Jackson is. And then Lamar Jackson's also so 1373 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:34,720 Speaker 1: good that if that drop in the playoffs lost his trust, 1374 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 1: we would probably never know it because Lamar is just 1375 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 1: that professional, like he know, he would never He'll get 1376 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,919 Speaker 1: mad at, like, you know, a little ticky like himself 1377 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 1: doing dumb shit on the field, but he doesn't really 1378 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 1: show it as much with like, you know, when other 1379 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 1: guys make mistakes, so we don't we don't know. And 1380 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 1: then I know Andrews has some like medical conditions as well. 1381 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 1: I think something that like he kind of struggles with 1382 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 1: and kind of come and go. So there's a lot 1383 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 1: of variables. And he's getting older too, So yeah, I 1384 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,599 Speaker 1: don't know what to do with him, but don't feel 1385 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: great about it because even last year he had the 1386 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 1: red flag was that you know, guys who were reliant 1387 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: on touchdowns and the tight end touchdown rate still going down. 1388 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 1: They're not they're not using them in the red zone 1389 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 1: as much because one one is is a is like 1390 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 1: a viable red zone personnel now, So tight end touchdown 1391 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,800 Speaker 1: rates around six and a half percent per catch now 1392 01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: used to be in the like seven high sevens or eight. 1393 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm worried about Andrews. But uh yeah, that's 1394 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 1: maybe they're just bubble wrapping him. Long long, long season ago. 1395 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 1: Raven's trying to get get to the promise lift all right, 1396 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, go on, Evan Ingroom tighten fifteen easy. 1397 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 2: A taking still down? Are you kidding me? 1398 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 1: Man? 1399 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 2: Listen? 1400 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: Like I said, I wholly admit that Evan Ingram is 1401 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,640 Speaker 1: probably gonna have a ten catch, ninety nine yard, two 1402 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 1: touchdown game at some point this season. I just don't 1403 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 1: know if it's a Week three or weekend or Week 1404 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 1: seventeen or whatever. 1405 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,559 Speaker 2: I take under three and receptions, it'll be that week. 1406 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, just yeah. If you sign up for the action 1407 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 1: out he's called POD twenty and uh yeah, you get 1408 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 1: Sean's alert. 1409 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 4: You see, you see that and then you go. But 1410 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 4: in all. 1411 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: Seriousness, this guy's playing like half the snaps or less 1412 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 1: he's And didn't Troutman get in the ends last week too? 1413 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 1: Of course yes he did, Yes he has he did. 1414 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 3: Didn't we call him? Didn't we call he would outscore? 1415 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 3: I don't know if we said that. But Adam Troutman 1416 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 3: is going to be a thorn and Evan Ingram side 1417 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:29,920 Speaker 3: all season. 1418 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Evan Ingram is playing. Uh you know, he's like 1419 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 1: a fifty route guy and that is and talked about 1420 01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 1: this prior to the season, but never really been a 1421 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: touchdown guy. So what are we banking on with Ingram? 1422 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 1: Is it that fifty eight yard preseason catch because this 1423 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,400 Speaker 1: is like eight players on the Roncos that can make 1424 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 1: fifty seven yard catches these days. So yeah, I don't 1425 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with Ingram. Uh, it's 1426 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,679 Speaker 1: it's frustrating, but yeah, I would other guy, I would 1427 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 1: just drop. You have to go be aggressive at tight end. Uh, 1428 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,680 Speaker 1: fanning all day over Ingram, Brent Strange, over anger. Heck, 1429 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 1: I would even buy low and love one because he 1430 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: has nowhere to go but up right. And we're starting 1431 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 1: to see co comet you know, same pattern. So uh, 1432 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: maybe even a royo in Seattle, like somebody, you gotta 1433 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 1: you gotta move on from these guys and try to 1434 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 1: get try to get a top top twelve, top ten, twelve, 1435 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 1: top twelve guy. I just do not think Ingram is 1436 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,639 Speaker 1: gonna be close. Uh at the at the snap rate's 1437 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,679 Speaker 1: going up. So yeah, and he's another guy not really 1438 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 1: trusted or great at run blocking, and that creates problem. 1439 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,800 Speaker 1: It's not like were the running backs and you know, okay, 1440 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 1: if they just block, uh you know, third down snaps 1441 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, get him, don't get it doesn't really matter. 1442 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 1: But like tight ends, you gotta be able to stay 1443 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 1: on the field because teams are kind of building some 1444 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,639 Speaker 1: of their past concepts off run fakes and and RPOs 1445 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,839 Speaker 1: and things like that. So yeah, only out on ee, 1446 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: maybe I will build yeah, let's do like Andrews us Ingram. 1447 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: That'll be fun. Mark Andrews plus Evan Ingram receiving yards. 1448 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 2: Okay, yards, okay, m hmmm. So let's see. 1449 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 1: Oh, I got gootta make sure I got this. 1450 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,479 Speaker 2: This is gonna be fun, I know. 1451 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm trying to make sure that. Okay, yeah, 1452 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 1: this is exactly what I wanted to do. Okay, Brock Bowers, Oh, 1453 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 1: Andrews plus Ingram. 1454 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 3: So I was afraid. I was afraid you're gonna do that. 1455 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,720 Speaker 3: I kind of saw what you're like. I have So 1456 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 3: I have Andrews and Ingram around fifty five, and I 1457 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 3: have Bowers around fifty seven. 1458 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 2: M hm. 1459 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 3: So you would think, okay, I'll take Bowers, which is 1460 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 3: probably the logical, probably smart thing to do. But since 1461 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,760 Speaker 3: we're taking two wide receivers, we're going to capture a 1462 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,680 Speaker 3: little bit of the mean a little bit, so if 1463 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 3: one of them goes off, the total sum might be 1464 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 3: a little bit higher. Whereas Bowers were talking about a median, 1465 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 3: I'm probably getting to Matthew here, but I'm in a 1466 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 3: bank on that kind of phenomenon. Maybe doctor Nick can 1467 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 3: explain it a little bit better than me, But I'm 1468 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 3: capturing kind of the I guess Andrews did Evan Ingram 1469 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 3: have hidden upside kind of capturing that a little bit 1470 01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 3: against Bowers. So that's a phenomenal prop It's it's super close. 1471 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 3: But I'm going to take the combo of Andrews and 1472 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 3: Ingram here. 1473 01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating because I totally agree with you. You have, 1474 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,639 Speaker 1: like Bowers is one guy, so like injury rate itself, 1475 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 1: It's like if he gets bagged up, yeah, his injury 1476 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: rate at risk is double essentially, but at the same time, 1477 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 1: he could get one catch in the first quarter and. 1478 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Still with ye. 1479 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, we talked about how it's it wasn't just 1480 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,759 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, it's like a stud tight end. Uh 1481 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 1: is going to be so valuable. And you know Bowers, 1482 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I know he hasn't like fully erupted and hit his stride, 1483 01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 1: but I mean still, you know, still averaging seventy yards 1484 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: game just like at last year. So right, yeah, right 1485 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 1: on scheduled just by a little injury scare. Uh and Uh, 1486 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,400 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to start going to him 1487 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 1: more because what the hell is that nineteen played Fiogo drive? 1488 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's there's so many thing. Again, it's week three. 1489 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 3: Who knows like how this is going to actually turn out, 1490 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 3: But you have to imagine Genty starts getting more yards 1491 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 3: on the ground at can I get better from here? 1492 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 3: And then Dante Thornton Junior, Mike Holland one of those 1493 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 3: like fifty yard yolo balls and that takes away from 1494 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 3: Bower's yards. 1495 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 2: So if you go either way, but. 1496 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,640 Speaker 3: I agree, I think they're gonna kind of realize we 1497 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 3: need to just be going through Bowers more. So I 1498 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 3: could go either way this week. That's the fun of 1499 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 3: week three, But again there are past the Bowers not 1500 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 3: having as many opportunities. If some of these other players step. 1501 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 1: Up, Yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna end up 1502 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 1: being like like Myers or Tucker one of those guys, 1503 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,559 Speaker 1: probably Myers because he kind of expressed that he didn't 1504 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 1: want to be there. So I just feel like, like 1505 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 1: I just think Bowers is too good, Like he's he's right, 1506 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a monster. Uh So, Like I don't 1507 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it long term, but I it's 1508 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: just like people drafted Ingram uh as like a top 1509 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,680 Speaker 1: eight tight end and so two Yeah, and Andrew so 1510 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to capture that, Like how confident or 1511 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 1: how dismayed are you in that? 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