1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it is the officials start to 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: Patriots Week here on Mick Shots inside the SWBC podcast 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: studio at Ford Center. At the start in Frisco, Bill Jones, 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola in some an alarming site 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: as I walked into the podcast studio, Mickey Spagnola, because 10 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: there were no football players, no football equipment on the 11 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: practice field here. What are we doing? Are we taking 12 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: the week off? What's going on right there? There are 13 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: so common It's like, is there the two and three Patriots? 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Don't need to practice? It was raining? Don't say that's bag, 15 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: Someone will take that out. Yeah it was what it 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: was raining here this morning? Well, so do you think 17 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: it might not rain in Foxborough? What was it? What 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: happened the last time the Cowboys went to New England? 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you want to mess up 20 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: your practice trying to portray that rain. You can't fool them. 21 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Sun's out if you can believe the weather man, and 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: it was supposed to in the weather women. And if 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna believe the weather, how you want to be 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: the weather person. It was supposed to keep raining during 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: the days. So you can see you don't believe him, right, 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: because now the sun's coach out, but it's supposed to 27 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: and even tomorrow, so they may be indoors both days. Okay, 28 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: in in the Ford Center, So we are practicing. They 29 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: are proud that I can give you a good practice report. 30 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: All right, care to hear it? Just let me know 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: when you were. It was just about an hour and 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: a little over an hour ago. Or practice was open 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: for the media to take a look inside Forward Center 34 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: and we can get to that. And there's so much 35 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: more to get to. We taped the Mike McCarthy show 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: last night. I got some stuff from him to pass 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: along as well. And I don't it's just a big week. 38 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: When it's a Patriots, it's always a big week. I 39 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: don't care what their record is. I do. I have 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: to do another interview after the show. Bill let me 41 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: know now so I can get my face on No no, 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: you're good. We're good. Good. Yeah, where the Everson Walls 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: Victory Tour continues. Actually, Trey Von Diggs, Actually I saw 44 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: what I saw what was in the background. It was 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: the highlight film of Everson Walls interceptions, and I was thinking, 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: during our show, instead of showing us, we'll just put 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: that on the whole loop. Put it on a loop. 48 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: Everyone that that's in the Hall of Fame that I 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: think doesn't deserve to be there. They usually had a show, right. Um, 50 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you want to compare 51 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: if mix shots can't compare to those shows that they all, Yes, 52 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: it does because they were like you know, ESPNS and 53 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. That's that's the whole key. Yeah, 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: getting into the Hall of Fame, you gotta have some 55 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: some Uh what do you How do you think Lynn 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Swan got in so quickly? Oh? How we long? Yeah? 57 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, I got a little bunch of them. 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: We can continue tomorrow. We're gonna have a list. Yeah 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I haven't now it's right here, right here, Walls list. 60 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: You got to stay top of mine, all right. So 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: you want to go inside practice and tell us what 62 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: was going on? I will tell you. I think the 63 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: most notable thing was it didn't look like Trayvon Diggs 64 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: was gonna practice. It looks like he's got a sprain 65 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: left ankle so that they felt the retaped them during 66 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: the game, the Giants game, and so at the beginning 67 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: of practice he was working on the resistance chords and 68 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: it didn't look like he was in practice because he 69 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: was in tennis shoes, all right, and I didn't see 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: a helmet around right. Um, we'll get that report here. 71 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: And a wide receiver got were hurt were injured on 72 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: that particiar the same place, the same there. Yeah. And 73 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: so as a matter of fact, when he was doing 74 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: some of the resistance stuff while he was waiting his 75 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: turn to get on the chords, he was doing his 76 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: little side steps and at one point he took his 77 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: left shoe off. So I'm guessing it's his left hand, 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: just you know, just from experience of looking at the 79 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: way you look at it, it's hard to he fell 80 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: on the back of his ankle, but what was stretched 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: was the top of his ankle. Looked like that was, 82 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, really excited because he fell on the back 83 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: of it, and it seemed like that's where the injury 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: is probably on the on the top of it, so 85 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: it looked like that he was not going to practice. 86 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: But this is when McCarthy answered the question of the 87 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: press conference. He just thought they would have to see 88 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: a couple of guys what they go through, but he 89 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: didn't think it was anything serious enough to keep them 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: out on Sunday. Uh, Zeke started off to practice the 91 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: same way, but he was dressed and ready to go. 92 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: So were not going to be doing this down Bishop 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: thing to where he's going to be injured a few games. Yeah, 94 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: that's right, Bill Street. Yeah, uh so so Zeke. But 95 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: Zeke did it. Uh. And then they had two guys 96 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: that have been on ir with designated to return and 97 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: they started their three week period today, Sean McEwan and 98 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson. They were both out there doing uh uh 99 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: individual drills during the special teams and fundamentals they did 100 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: and then I think that was it for them. But 101 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: at least they getting going. So that's so that's got 102 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: a question on that. Yes, since the bye week count 103 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: is one of those three weeks stump him. I don't know, 104 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: because you don't have a full week of practice, so 105 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: I would think it would not count. Yeah, because you're buying. 106 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: You're buying a fourth week here, you get practice, just 107 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: get No, you got to give the guys four consecutive 108 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: days off. So Thursday Thursday. See, you guys didn't have 109 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: a good CBA. You know you did get enough time off. 110 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't enough of us, not loopy, you know, to 111 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: where they say, okay, now we need to change. So 112 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: generally what they'll could do is come in on Monday 113 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: as normal after a game, have Tuesday off, do something 114 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. And generally the way it's worked, at least 115 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: when Jason was here, Wednesday was kind of a young 116 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: guys practice. The guys that don't get to practice that much, 117 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: they would get them out there and go through some 118 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: practice players players, the practice squad guys can go out 119 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: there also. Yeah, um, update on go ahead, Michael Gallop. 120 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: What's going on with him and Gallimore? Uh? Gallimar continues 121 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: to do rehab on the side. So like I said, 122 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's a z elbow. So he's running really well. 123 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 1: So I think those guys after after after the after 124 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: the bye maybe after the bye man. Yeah, because Gallimore 125 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: had to miss I think he had to did he 126 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: have to miss six games. I can't remember if he 127 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: was in that category. I don't think no, he because 128 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: he was at training camp was Yeah, he wasn't a 129 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: pup guy. That's right about Gallop. Gallop. I still think 130 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: after the bye at the earliest Hill is the pup 131 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Tristan and the Hills the Trump guy, and he had 132 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: to miss six six games, right for six weeks whatever. 133 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm asking about Gallup because as we move on, you know, 134 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: man trade deadline coming up. I wonder if no, no, 135 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, because I do not want that 136 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: to happen. In regards to the trade deadline. Here's the 137 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: way I look at Michael Gallup. You're acquiring him in 138 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: a trade, you know, because you haven't had him, and 139 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: so about the trade deadline, you're getting him back, and 140 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: so it's as if you just picked him up from 141 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: another team. I mean, as a player, if I'm if 142 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: I'm him, I'm a little nervous, you know. I mean 143 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: we're playing well, of course, but I'm not a part 144 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: of it. I'm a little anxious. Yeah, I see Cedric 145 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: Wilson getting off. Of course you al would have knew 146 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,359 Speaker 1: one more injury and then come talk to me. The Cowboys. 147 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: If the Cowboys were one and four right now instead 148 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: of four and one, and if I was Michael Gallup, 149 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: I'd be nervous, you know. And the other thing that 150 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: stood out in practice when they were doing the offensive 151 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: linemen were doing their little drills off on the side. 152 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask Verson if he ever saw 153 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Ernie Stottner running a drill with a helmet on. No, 154 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: never happened. I'm not sure that he played. He didn't. 155 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: I didn't play in his Pro Football Hall of Fame 156 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: career with a helmon onze right, he probably he had leather. Well, 157 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: dan Quinn was out there and doing the drill and 158 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: he had a helmet on, by the way, and it 159 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: wasn't like they were button heads or anything, but he 160 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: was doing the uh oh, he had the pads in 161 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: his hand and they're coming by knocking them down, and 162 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: but he had the helmet on. That only happens with 163 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: winning teams. Yeah, right, you do stuff like that. If 164 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: you out there, you would like to say you wanted four. 165 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: And then the couch coaches out there with his helming on. 166 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: Coach Hey man quis going them out. So that's the 167 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: highlights of the practice that I think we got to see. Okay, 168 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: very good. Um. You know the Mike McCarthy was talking 169 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: last night in between taping the show that he breaks 170 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: down this season into basically quadrants. Okay, where we're reaching 171 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: the end of the first quadrant here uh where? When 172 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: you look at the Cowboys schedule because of the bye 173 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: week next week, so you're you got six weeks, you 174 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: got eighteen weeks basically, but you're I mean, I think 175 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: you're the last quadrant would be your playoffs. Oh so 176 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: so you got the six Now he didn't say that, 177 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: but I just read into it every five and the 178 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: way the Cowboys schedule breaks down, the way he's got 179 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: it marked off is Okay, we're ending the first quarter 180 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: here at with this game because of the bye week, 181 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: and then you're going through November, which is a five 182 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: week and once as the way the Cowboys schedule lines up, 183 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: you got Thanksgiving and then the following Thursday at New Orleans. 184 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: So that's a five game stretch, right, We're for your 185 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: second quarter and then you're take it from there to 186 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: the end of the season. Is your third quarter and 187 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: then your fourth quarter. Yeah, the NFL just just trans 188 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: transition into the dog days of winter. Yes, it is 189 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: this season after Christmas, after Thanksgiving. Think about after Thanksgiving. 190 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: We always had this stretch that we had to pay 191 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: attention to. Now you got a couple of more weeks 192 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: to deal with. That's the long days of winter. No kidding, 193 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: I mean it. I mean seriously, I've not had to 194 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: schedule in front of me. I'm about to. But when 195 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: you're looking at after Thanksgiving, this team has six games, 196 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: three of which are in a row on the road. 197 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: Uh huh. So after Thanksgiving you've got because the final 198 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: regular season game this year is on January ninth, right, 199 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: And so you're taking it all the way to then, 200 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: and man and so I said, yeah, from a mental standpoint, 201 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's only you have to break it up 202 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: just to otherwise it's too consuming. And as he said, 203 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: he adds another quadrants. He said, he looks at it 204 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: more from the physical standpoint for the team, and what 205 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: he will do as they get into December, he'll shorten 206 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: practice and make it feel like it's not as as 207 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: burden as long as it is. Actually he's shortened today, Yeah, 208 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: because they usually started eleven twenty or eleven forty, I guess, 209 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: And they started it, and maybe that's also because he's 210 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: the end of this first quadrant and you can, I mean, 211 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: I guess you can. Also you had the preseason Quadrant two, 212 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: which last you know, from July twentieth until thoughts really played. 213 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: That's right, but I mean you're engaged in stuff. So 214 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: and speaking of having to play seventeen games, this is 215 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: the seventeenth game this week, basically the extra that's right, 216 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: that's right in New England. Okay, yeah, that's the added 217 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: game to It's what they did was they added a 218 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: cross non conferency, a crossover game, and just where they 219 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: sat in the standings last year, they did NFC East 220 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: is twentying NFC East team in the Patriots, Yeah, playing 221 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: AFC's teams, and the Patriots wound up in the same 222 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: spot in the standings as the Cowboys did last year. 223 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: And then one other note on practice, So we now 224 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: know that Leale Collins will miss the fifth game with 225 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: the ruling that came down, but he has been eligible 226 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: to be in the building and work on his conditioning. 227 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: So he's been doing that I think a little bit 228 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: last week and some and he'll continue this week and 229 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: then he'll get the buy and a week of practice 230 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: before the next game. So I hope he comes bag mad. 231 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: He should he should be, He'll be four hundred and 232 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars mad. Yeah, absolutely, because I think it 233 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: comes back so angry. He just takes it out on 234 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: the opposition. And by the way, and I know there's 235 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: a lot of talk out there talk radio, well, why 236 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: would they mess with the continuity on the offensive line? 237 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: Just lets steal play because he's playing so well. And 238 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: it's like, look, Lele Collins. The last time we saw 239 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: him play a season, he had a Pro Bowl season, 240 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: just didn't get voted into it, and he was on 241 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: the verge the next year. Unfortunately the next year got 242 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: wiped out by the hip injury. And you saw off 243 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: looking at what he did this year, right, So let's 244 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: not minimize this guy's talent and saying, oh no, let's 245 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: just go with steal because the Cowboys have done a 246 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: very good job. Steel is improved in his in his 247 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: run blocking, pass blocking. He's gotten helped. They've used those 248 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: two tight ends and they're not always on his side. 249 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: They could be on the other side. But if they're 250 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: on the other side, the defense has got a shift right, 251 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: and so he doesn't have to worry about Blitzer's or 252 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, two guys coming at him. Let's not undersell 253 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Lele Collins and what he can do once he's on 254 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: the field. I think he's been playing at a Pro 255 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Bowl level once again until this thiscause. The way he 256 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: was playing against Tampa, keeping that off, that defensive line out, 257 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: allowing Dad to throw for five hundred jars or whatever 258 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: he threw for that particul the game, no well, and 259 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: when you look at the running run blocking, no one 260 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: was really successful in that regard. So yeah, that's a 261 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: wash as far as I'm concerned. But now he's been 262 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: playing very well so and that ruling reminds me of 263 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: a saying Tech Shram had long time ago. I remember 264 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: talking to him about a court case, right, and he said, 265 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes a judge should do what's right, not 266 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: what's legal. And that's what happened in this game. He 267 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: did what was legal. He didn't feel like the judge 268 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: basically scolded the NFL from how they conducted this whole thing. 269 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: But he said, because of the CBA and you agreed 270 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: to have an arbitrator, I can't overrule the arbitrary, struck 271 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: with the letter of the law, right, but from a league, 272 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: from a right and wrong. It was like, no, the 273 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: NFL violated what they should have been doing in this case, 274 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: but I can't overrule the arbitrator. So he'll miss his 275 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: fifth game, get his game fine, and then be ready 276 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: to come back nixt with the next game then against 277 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: at Minnesota. And you know how I look at that 278 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: gowboys just acquired Lyle Collins in the trash. I thought 279 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: you were going to say, and there's another reason why 280 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: I got out of loss. That too, that too, Texas, Texas. 281 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: Other thing was about court cases. They were talking about 282 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: something going to court, and he was like, no, you 283 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: want to get it settled, don't go to court. And 284 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: it's like, well, why wouldn't you got to court? Go 285 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: to court? And he goes, let me tell you. He goes, 286 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: when they tell you that you're being tried or you're 287 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: being judged by jury of your peers, he goes, they 288 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: ain't your peers. That's good. Yeah, black folks know that 289 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: we've been on that long time. All right, we're gonna 290 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: continue with more mix shots. And I got a mix 291 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: shot for you too, Ready to go all right. 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Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he had no feelings. 339 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: It shouldn't have had that. This common needs to come out. 340 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Oh there he goes. It's always into back. It's always 341 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: the writers fitting back to the writers. Okay, it's time 342 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: as we kick off this segment for the first mix 343 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: shot of this day. Yes, sold on. Did you know 344 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick perfect had nineteen consecutive winning seasons until 345 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: last year and he's second all time too, Tom Tom 346 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: Landry with twenty And I also another note that Bill 347 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: Belichick has won the most playoff games in NFL history 348 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: with thirty one and in second place with twenty. There 349 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: you go, Bill, Bill was going to open up his 350 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: book to he was gonna double confirm. I. I was 351 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: looking back at that seventy four season to make it sure. 352 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: The Cowboys were eight and six and seventy four that 353 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: was the year, the one year in that twenty years 354 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they had a winning season, that's right, absolutely, 355 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: And I was part of eighty four. That was my 356 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: first season. Yeah, that's why I didn't like it, was mickey. Yeah, 357 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we look around. There's this little 358 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: elf walking around bad looking. As a matter of fact, 359 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: the game that decided it was at Miami. Remember Dolphins 360 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: came from behind when To be honest, that game really 361 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: didn't decide it, right, we knew that the game started. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 362 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: that just kind of they were just having I was 363 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: standing we played as if we still had a chance. Yeah, 364 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: I was standing in behind the end zone when Clayton 365 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: was a Clayton that caught the touchdown. That's the second 366 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: test down. He was to be a very good friend 367 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: of mine. So I hear about this all the time, 368 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: just seconded or second just like he hears even though 369 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: he wasn't on the other side about your two interceptions. 370 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: And yeah he wasn't. Yes, that's correct, that's when they 371 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: had just slow white wide receivers. But they still ran 372 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: by me. So I as you see, Cephalo was no Jimmy. 373 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: These accomplishments this year by certain people are bringing up 374 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: historical markers for the Dallas Cowboys. There you go, that's 375 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: just lets you know, we are a historical organization. So 376 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: you look at the Patriots, what they have done over 377 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: a two decade period, what the Cowboys did over a 378 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: two decade period, I would say both of them are 379 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. Yeah, and the Cowboys was actually two and 380 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: a half decades. Right. Well, I guess if you just 381 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: look at twenty years from sixty five to eighty five, right, 382 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: and guests who played for both of them, he's taken credits. Yes, 383 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: that's hey, that's right, I'll take credit. That's correct. Okay. 384 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: Similarities between coach Landry and coach Belichick, that's easy. Intellect, 385 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: just straight up intellect. And with that intellect brought a 386 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: lot of hard work on themselves. They didn't need anyone 387 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: to push them. I don't know who taught Tom Landry, 388 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: you know his skills as a coach. Of course, he 389 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: was a fighter pilot. I believe in the in the 390 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: Air Force, but when it came to Belichick, his father 391 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: was an amazing coach, so Bill was always there with him, 392 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: so you just kind of knew where that was going. 393 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: He was wasn't like he was some great player. I 394 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: don't think he even tried to play sports, but he's 395 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: always been around it, and I admired their command of 396 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: all facets of the game. And that's why I'm always 397 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: talking about how that can help. I mean, that's just 398 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: what I was taught by great coaches. There is no 399 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: just offense defense. There is no just a quarterback versus 400 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, a defensive back. This entire team, whoever you 401 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: play on. Any successful team I've been on, it's always 402 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: been because we were strong at those three areas of 403 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: the ball game. And that's why they have defense, offense, 404 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: and the kicking game because they all matter. You know. Um, 405 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: It's interesting because you think of most coaches, most head coaches, 406 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: they have either a background and eat on either the 407 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball or the offensive side of 408 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: the ball. Okay, he's an offensive coach. He's a defensive coach. 409 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: And even though uh Landry was a defensive player or whatever, 410 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: I mean, his innovation thirty seven career picks or something 411 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: like that, by the way, and you can look up 412 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: his where going now. He had six picks six in 413 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: a row in nineteen fifty. It was either fifty one 414 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: or fifth consecutive game. It was the first six in 415 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: a row. Pro Football Reference has games. If you'll look 416 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: at his game his entire every day, Tom had six 417 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: picks with the Giant. Hey, that's what I had with 418 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: the Giant six six. It was either fifty one or 419 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: fifty two, I think, man, And when you look at 420 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: Tom's career, I mean, on a personal level, DBS, I 421 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: think we were his least favorite position. You know. He 422 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: just never really showed us much love. He didn't really. 423 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: I know he appreciate what we did, but it was 424 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: never a point of a conversation. And when the conversation 425 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: came up, he was shooting down. I guess he was 426 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: just so afraid for us, you know. And when you 427 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: look at one of the other things that he did, 428 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: he invented the defense. Yeah, he invented the flex defense. Now, 429 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can attribute the Amba defense 430 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: to Bill Belichick, but you can definitely attribute to flex 431 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: to Tom Langeman because that's straight up. He authored that 432 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: entire defense for stopping the great Jim Brown. So I 433 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: believe Tom was a player coach when he designed it 434 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: because his uh he was. He was trying to help 435 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: out the middle linebacker. Who was the middle Huff, Sam 436 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: sam Huff. Yeah, Sam Huff was having problems with Jim Brown, 437 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: and Tom said, don't well, I'll take care of it. 438 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: And he designed the defense so that Sam Huff could 439 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: always be there to meet Jim Brown in the whole 440 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: wherever he went down the line. How's your research? Landry 441 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: had thirty two interceptions in his career, right, thirty one 442 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: with the New York Giants and one with the New 443 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: York Yankees. Wow, love it this first year and that 444 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: was the first first New York Yankees, same team. I 445 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: mean the Yankees must have folded or something. They ended 446 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: up coming here, that's right, right, like fifty football yams. Yes, 447 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: for one year. I don't even think they finished the year. 448 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I think they got bought out and they moved back East. Okay, 449 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: someone and there's people looking it up right now, but 450 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: on Pro Football in Pro Football Reference the night I 451 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: just clicked on on Landry's bio. The nineteen forty nine 452 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: New York Yankees. And usually at the top it has 453 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: previous season and next season. There's not a next season. Yes, 454 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: the last year, Yeah they were done. Yeah. So uh 455 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: and and that was the aa FC. Oh okay, so 456 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: there's the difference. Yeah, so did you find his six 457 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: straight interceptions yet so secutive games? For I thought, that's 458 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: what I read, But then that's first and what they're 459 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: and what they're quoting now is since the merger in 460 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: nineteen two. Okay, okay, that's why Don Bishop doesn't okay 461 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: as much love deserve, thank you, thank you, I got 462 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: he got all the love he ever deserved on our 463 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: show the other day of Roses and Flowers can well, 464 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: unfortunately the game logs are sketchy. Yeah, all right, don't 465 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: worry about And also he was a punter. Yes, so 466 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: that's something else that you can attribute to his resume 467 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: and and attribute to his knowledge of special teams. Maybe 468 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: that's why he loved Danny White. Well, that could be 469 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: because I tell you, people talk about Danny's a quarterback. 470 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: I have always thought he was a much better punter 471 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: than a quarterback. And that is no knock on his 472 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: quarterback game, right, because he saved us so many times 473 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: with the fake punt, you know actors, if he's gonna 474 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: just kind of run it, you know, run up and 475 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: kicking and then he takes off. God, he did that 476 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: countless times, which extended our drives. I don't remember it 477 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: ever not working. I think it did once. Man thinking 478 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: he told the story about one time. Maybe one time 479 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: got on him. But to me, that's a great sence. 480 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: It's like all the ones that work, Hey, way to go, 481 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: and it's like, now, what are you doing? The only reason, 482 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: the only one we don't remember, but that we remember 483 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: that didn't work with the no Danny no, which wasn't 484 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: a punt that was that was a snap from Landry 485 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: had eight picks in three different seasons in nineteen fifty one, 486 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: fifty two, and fifty four, which was an all pro year. 487 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: So the six in a row or either fifty one 488 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: or fifty should have given us a whole lot more. Yeah, well, 489 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: maybe he realized how hard it was back in so 490 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: if I took care of the front seven, I'd saved 491 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: my back for But you know what, when the flex 492 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: was put together, it was not made for a defensive 493 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: back at all. Right, I think he's it must be 494 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: a lot of self hate that he has because now 495 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: on the serious point with the flex, and I try 496 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: to explain to people all the time, they don't get it. 497 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: But with the flex, it's made for the run. I 498 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: can't have a defense made for the run. In the past, 499 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: it just doesn't work. So who's the sacrificial lambs the 500 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: second day, whether it's the linebackers or whether it's the dbs, 501 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna be the ones that's gonna have to give 502 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: up something in order for us to for the sake 503 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: of the scheme itself. And when I came in, you know, 504 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I wasn't paying attention to that. I 505 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: wasn't going to give up anything, which is why I 506 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: got beat sometimes because I'm gonna cover everything because that's 507 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: just coming out of college, that's what you know, and 508 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: as an acceptor, that's what you want. You're gonna catch 509 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: every route. So as much as I was doing it 510 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: a lot, and it amused Charlie Waters and Dennis Thurman, 511 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: they had all kind of great nicknames for me because 512 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: you're doing something they're not supposed to do. Tom Madge's like, 513 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: you need to stop doing that, Okay, just stop doing it. 514 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: And he never really he just never gave you the 515 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: credit as a defensive back because, like you said, this 516 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: was all about stopping the run, yeah, and it was 517 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: not about passing. I remember when we were doing a 518 00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: documentary on Doomsday Defense, the first Doomsday one, right, and 519 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: somebody was we were doing the interview and somebody asked 520 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: one of the defensive backs about the flex and they go, 521 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: don't ask me that. Yes to do yes, boy, that 522 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: you've never told me that. That's very girl. I can't 523 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: remember who it might have been clear for Charlie something 524 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: it was. It was probably Charlie because Charlie was always 525 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: trying to fight for us in the secondary and then 526 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna listen to myself, Dexter, Michael Downs and 527 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: vine Fellow's not gonna listen to us. He might listen 528 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: to Charlie or Dennis Thurman. Had a lot of respect 529 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: with Dennis Thurman in the locker room. So you can 530 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: talk all you want, you're not going to change the 531 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: flex and until it was outdated by I would say 532 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: the first team to outdate the flex would be the 533 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. He's still running, yes he is, and 534 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm still diving after him too. That was a nightmarish So, 535 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: by the way, game yeah, not just game yeah, okay, right, yes, 536 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: game eighty three three, I guess I'm talking about the 537 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: playoff game. That's what I'm talking on the ice in 538 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: the end zone. Both of the playoff games eighty three 539 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: that was ice in the end zone in Texas Stadium, 540 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: went out there in eighty five we were uh that 541 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: was a which one was wild to shut out one 542 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: that I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. So, by the way, 543 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: people are asking me yesterday about Belichick and what do 544 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: you think he'll do, and I said, well, evanston Walls said, 545 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: and so h McCarthy made mention to it that this 546 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: will be the first time they see uh he was. 547 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: He made mention of man coverage, and I didn't know 548 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: if that was something that Belichick liked to do. Somebody 549 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: said single safety high and then he would use man 550 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: coverage on the wide receiver he started out with. When 551 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: I was in New York, they were we were perfect 552 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: with the Tampa two. I guess it's kind of what 553 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: they called it now, but I will cover two if 554 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: you're depending on how it turned out, it's going to 555 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: be a couple of four. And if you're going to 556 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: play a coup of two or cover four, one thing, 557 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: you got to have linebackers, athletic linebackers. If you don't 558 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: have them, it ain't gonna work. And he's always that's 559 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: why Tampa. Yeah, that's why he's had it with lt 560 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: and Banks and Pepper and Tampa headed of course with 561 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: Books and those guys. So yeah, if you're gonna play 562 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: a cover two a couple four, your linebackers have to 563 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: be extremely athletic, more athletic than most because you have 564 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: to get underneath. You gotta get underneath, you got you 565 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: got not going, You have to get underneath. You have 566 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: to react to the short passes as well. Okay, Yeah, 567 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: And they have been on the cutting edge of the 568 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: last several years of using more dbs on the field 569 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: than and other teams have followed suit. Now super Bowl itself, Yeah, 570 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: we had Eric Howard was the only defensive lineman in 571 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: the game for the most part. And that's the thing 572 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: with Belichick, the way he's evolved over the years too. 573 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't you can't do what they've done 574 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: over this longer period of time without without that imagine 575 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: this though, it's twenty two years with the Patriots. You 576 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: know how long he's been coaching in the National Football 577 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: League now, thick, go ahead, forty seven years. Nineteen seventy 578 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: five his first year. How old was he? 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Well, as we were taping the Mike 637 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: McCarthy Show last night, Uh, he made a point to 638 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: me in a break that we need to talk special teams. 639 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: Oh well, we know why the time up there and 640 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: of course and of course he was not a part 641 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: of that, yes two years ago. But it's just it's 642 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: what the Patriots do. And I think one Matthew Slater 643 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: is still there. That's exactly right. And he was the 644 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: guy that blocked the punt because the guys on the 645 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: outside didn't do their assignment and left a gap. You know, 646 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: as I look up Matthews Slater, if there was a 647 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: guy to make the Hall of Fame who is strictly 648 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: a special teams player, Matthews Slater might be the leading candidate. 649 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: Not Kenny the Shark. Let's see, you got them on 650 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: that one, got them on. Now come on now, Bill, 651 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: don't don't how many Pro Bowls has Slater made? I 652 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: was I was going to say like three or four? Nine? 653 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: Oh what I didn't think that sounded like Zeke the 654 00:38:53,440 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: other day the interception record. Oh, that's a lot. All 655 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Yes, yeah, that's amazing that they could 656 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: afford a special teams player for me. I mean, that's 657 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: the priority in two thousand and eight fifth round draft 658 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: pick out of UCLA, of course, the son of Jackie Slater, 659 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: and of course and um Jackson State University. By the way, 660 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: hbcuh go ahead, it would And so you we're talking 661 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: father's son Hall of famers. Yeah, okay, um, but I mean, now, one, 662 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: it's kind of one of those deals once you make 663 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: All Pro, once you make the Pro Bow, and once 664 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: you have that designation that you're only draft looking at 665 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: anybody else exactly, only drafted for special team's purposes. Not 666 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: and take nothing away from Matthew Slater, okay, but it 667 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: illustrates the emphasis that um Belichick puts on his core 668 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: special team ever since. Asked where he lines up while 669 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: on that punt block in twenty nineteen, he will was 670 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: kind of halfway between the middle in the end. Yeah, 671 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: and he came through a crease that they blocked the 672 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: wrong way. I mean, it wasn't like he had this 673 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: great play. He just saw that, Oh that guy's going 674 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: that way. That guy's going that way. I just come 675 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: through here. That's the kind of heads up players, right, 676 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: Bill likes. Yes. Okay, So how big is John Fossil's 677 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: role in this game? Oh bones, let's go, we're thinking 678 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: we break out the old. First of all, he don't 679 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: get too excited, you know, that's his problem. He's like 680 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: his special teams players. They called special teams players special 681 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: teams players because they are special and sometimes they can 682 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: act a little special. Right, They'll do things if you go, 683 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: like especially when it comes down in the ball on 684 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: the gold line. I know people work on that all 685 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: the time, but just see some of the biggest idiots. 686 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: Just dude, why you're running so fast? You know. I mean, 687 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: it's just some of the things that they do. And Fossil, 688 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: to me, he's that guy that can really he can 689 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: empathize with him and he can relate to them. So 690 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: I just don't want him to think, oh he comes 691 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: better check here comes to Patriots. So let me do 692 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: something over the top special. Just do your job. Okay, 693 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: and keep and keep the Patriots from doing something something. 694 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: Let's not get to and talking about guys running down 695 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: like that. They run down like that on coverage and 696 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: I see him practice it all the time, where okay, 697 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna run down his facial account and then break down, 698 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: right so you can go with They forget that, They 699 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: just run by the guy. Yeah, it's like all sitting 700 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: right there and all of y'all, you come and dive 701 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: on that ball, that the one y'all right, right, you know, 702 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna slide and everyone's so, oh my god, how 703 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: could that happen because of you? You're done it, my goodness, 704 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: play under control. That's it. That's the team is. Let's 705 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: do it guys. And the ones that don't know how 706 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: to do it the best, they're the ones that have 707 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 1: the best teams period because they are in tune to 708 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: doing it the right way. It's not just about hustle. 709 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: It's about accomplishing something, and that's where the best ones 710 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: have the best records. You know. The tough thing on 711 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: special teams too, like in training camp, you can't you 712 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: don't practice it live. You have no live sessions on 713 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: special teams until you get into a preseason game and 714 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, this is what you're supposed to do? Right? Well, 715 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: how am I seeing people? Yeah? Why are they trying 716 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: to hit me? One other thing on Slater, the Patriots 717 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: not only drafted him in the fifth round, they also 718 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: traded up to draft him in the fifth round that 719 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: they had Okay, yeah, because jacket Slater would be on 720 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: Yeah jackets out there? Yeah, so good one yep. So 721 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 1: special teams would be a big part of this one. Okay, 722 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: So you think of Fossil's mindset going into this one, 723 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: matching up against the team that's known for special teams. Whatever. 724 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: Now you're right. So coaching about dan Quinn, I mean 725 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: he was coaching the Falcons and a super Bowl against 726 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: the Patriots team, and he has every play in his head. 727 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: In fact, he would have been a defensive coordinator in 728 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: Seattle against the Patriots and a super Bowl also he 729 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: has he has every play in his So how much 730 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: how much to do coaches get motivated to face Belichick? 731 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: This is one of those things where they didn't wait 732 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: till this week to prepare it, right, right, you see 733 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They've been looking forward to this all. 734 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: That's my redemption moment. Yeah, we're spending. We got redemption moment. 735 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: We got mojole moments in redemption. As soon as that 736 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: schedule came out. Okay, in the month of May, they 737 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 1: stayed up late. Let's study Patriots. Why not. We're gonna 738 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: put that to the side. We're gonna donate all that, 739 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,959 Speaker 1: you know, commit all that time to this. I'm gonna 740 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: put some time to my Patriots. And they look at 741 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: it that way. Dude, I know that that you get 742 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: more motivated if you go up against writers, the strong 743 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: writers from the other team. Yeah, I'll show. I'll show 744 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: who's the writer for the Patriots. They've they've changed over 745 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: pretty much, just like everyone of the days. Could you 746 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: kick his ass? I'm trying. I'm forgetting the guy's name. 747 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: He had worked for UM for one of the papers 748 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: up there. It's been The Boston Globe, and then he 749 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: went over to Mike Reese. Is who I'm trying to think. 750 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: Ok Yeah, he impressed me as a young guy, and 751 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: he's progressed and now he's either with ESPN dot com 752 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: that's got the athletic so I think he's a nine 753 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: time pro bowler. He is a yea, now he good, 754 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: He's right. Let's think about this. He has to be 755 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: the worst job in the world to be a beat 756 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: writer for Belli and Belichick. Oh you know what though, 757 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: I last year during covid U, they were you know, 758 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: on back when we had periscope. Periscope went away in May, 759 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: and so I was following that was good thing. I 760 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: followed the Patriots and so every morning at like eight am, 761 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 1: Belichick's press conference, I get an alert the Belichick press conference, 762 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: and I would listen to him. And actually there were 763 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 1: certain days that he was really good in forthcoming in 764 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: his press conference. And that was just this past year. 765 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: That yeah, last year, and it was a bad year 766 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: for him. You know, they went seven y nine and 767 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 1: they didn't have anything to hide because they were bad. Yeah, yeah, maybe. 768 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: So you know what the funniest line I heard him 769 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: and it was a it was at Super Bowl. So 770 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: there's been so many I don't remember which one it 771 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: was for him, right, uh. And it was in the 772 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: probably the Tuesday media session, and so got the big 773 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: room there and somebody asked them just inain question it 774 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: was like and he kind of looked at the guy 775 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,919 Speaker 1: and he scaled and he goes, so you guys, He goes, 776 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 1: do you have this book of questions? And the chapter 777 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: one is these are the questions you have to ask regardless? 778 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: And you know what? He was kind of right, Yes, 779 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: he knows that, you know. I think what I liked 780 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: about Bill. First of all, he and LT got along 781 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: extremely well. Uh we were I think we LT was 782 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: late for the meeting in training camp and you just 783 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: go from them practice field. I'm to the locker room 784 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: to the practice field. It's like half of our walk 785 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: maybe twelve of them out and you have cause that 786 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: also because the people are also trying to get in 787 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: as well to come and see us, so you the 788 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: cause would be with And this was at the stadium 789 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: right that. This is at TIN in the camp training. 790 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember the university that we were at. All 791 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: the rich people lived out It wasn't Offstra that was 792 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: the judge. I think, yeah, it was where all the 793 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: rich people and executives lived out there, all executives and 794 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: all of that. I can't remember this, but it was 795 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 1: upstate in New York. And he said, hey, LT, come 796 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: on man, everybody's been sitting here waiting. You said, what 797 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:28,479 Speaker 1: was what was the deal? LT goes traffic just because 798 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: the cars actually with you. But I just thought that 799 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 1: was an excellent answer, traffic coach. I was in traffic 800 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: Bryant College, no training camp locations talking. Yeah, I'm sorry, 801 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It was university hold 802 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: on Pace was one of them all right before they signed. 803 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: They didna get it. They want it was, um, what 804 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: you're you talking? Abod twenty five more rows? Here they 805 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: go all over the place. Fairly Dickinson, fairly, Dickinson. There 806 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: you go, We got all the answer, right. Megan used 807 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: to hang his sheets out the window when he would 808 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: climb down and sneak out from training camp, like, man, 809 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: was this a jailbreak? Well, eventually, I guess it could 810 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: have been well in thousand in thousand oaks. So they 811 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: used to the dorms and then they had a media dorm. 812 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if you were aware of that, but 813 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: the media dorm was right across from the check in 814 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: hut or whatever that was it security or whatever. So 815 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: in the back of the dorm there was a little 816 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: plaza patio and they used to stock the refrigerator with beer. Right, 817 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,439 Speaker 1: So after we'd go out at night, we'd come back, 818 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: sit on the patio, and to the left of us 819 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: was a softball field, and if you go there was 820 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: a big field, and to the right was a dormitory. 821 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: Right when a parking lot. And so every once in 822 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: a while we used to call them runners with some 823 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: player would go from the softball field to that parking lot. 824 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: I know exactly. I'm surprised more people didn't call us out. 825 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: We would sit there and we'd see one and go 826 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: and somebody goes, there goes a runner, and we go, hey, hey, hey, 827 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: just yelling. The guy would run faster. The door of 828 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: the car would open, the lights would come on, the 829 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: guy would dive in the back seat, and the car 830 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: would take off. They were escaping for the night. Well 831 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: you got la right down the street, I mean, come on, yeah, 832 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 1: Well who's gonna stay in the dorm. When you see 833 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: Irving Magic Johnson there is his basketball camp, he goes, hey, comy, hey, 834 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: he knows me about cumming. We'll come to my play 835 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: to night. Sure, No fo, no, man, we got practice 836 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. No, don't worry about it. Me and the 837 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: boys would be there or the guy. We made it. 838 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: We're going through the little checkpoint and they would have 839 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: their bible and their toiletry kit. It's like just gonna 840 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: be a lot long bible station rights and that was 841 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: a John Wooden basketball camp that was on. The Magic 842 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: would come as the guests, instructor or whatever. I remember 843 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: interviewing him there right outside the gym. That's why. That's 844 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 1: why I saw right outside the gym. Yeh. That old 845 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: gym now is a warehouse for their UH play production 846 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: group at the university. So they store all the props 847 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: in that gym. Now, that's what it's turned out to be. 848 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: They still have the football stadium right there. They got 849 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: a new football soccer field. Yeah yeah, all right, and 850 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: the stands or the stands. I'm going out there, so 851 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm driving, Oh, go in, go walk. I went there 852 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago because the cafeteria is still 853 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 1: the same. So that one year we were at training 854 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 1: camp and we did a deal on training camp at 855 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 1: Thousand Oaks. So Nate and I walked through, did interviews 856 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: there and we went into the cafeteria and still the same. 857 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: You can down them steps either way right, and there 858 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: was the big area and there was a lady there. 859 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, probably looked like in her sixties at least. 860 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: And uh so we're looking around. She goes, hey, you 861 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,879 Speaker 1: guys know that the Cowboys used to have training camp 862 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: here and this is where they ate. And Nate goes, yeah, 863 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: I know, I know, and she goes, yeah, I used 864 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: to serve him all the time. It's like, wait a minute. 865 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: We started doing the math and she had been working 866 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: there for like over thirty years in the same lady. 867 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: She's there serving you guys. She's the one that used 868 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: to let me, uh she would mark me present for 869 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: breakfast because I didn't want to go. She marked me 870 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: present for breakfast, and I thank the Yeah. I mean, 871 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: what do you do? When I left training camp? I 872 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: bother some Jack Daniels or something drink he was now 873 00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: they getting mad at Lele College. That's the same she 874 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: was there. Well, I don't know if that was the 875 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: same woman, but she had been working there since Cowboys. 876 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: Pretty yeah, so that would be like, yeah, well you'll 877 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: have to go see her when you go out there. Yeah, 878 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: all right, and that will do it. We're seven minutes 879 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 1: late getting out this edition of Big Shots, and we'll 880 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 1: see you again tomorrow at one thirty Cowboys we had 881 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: extra time. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 882 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.