1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annik and 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: I fucking love him. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him. 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 4: Job Kokduffian prec. 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 5: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 5: bullshit artists. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 6: Oh well, happy sir if that applies. Sunday April seventeen, 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 6: twenty twenty two is the year. It's episode three hundred 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 6: and forty five of The Annik and Florian Podcast. Hater's 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 6: gonna hate Ken Flow. That's okay, we all got him. 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 4: Blao. 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 6: Remember the name Muhammad representing the channel memorably this weekend. 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 6: Some would argue that's the wrong adverb, but uh, it's 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 6: good to see it. Kem Flow a lot to get 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 6: to in the main event, and uh, you know, Balao 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 6: Muhammad unranked when we started. Remember the show year in 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 6: twenty twenty Look at him now. 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, very impressive. 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 7: First of all, I've never had a hater in my life, 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 7: so I don't know what you're talking about. 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: That's true. 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, listen, You're gonna have haters no matter what. 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 7: But you know, for blal, I was just again, this 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 7: is why I picked him. I think there were some 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 7: interesting moments where maybe I was a little concerned, especially 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 7: with that left hook that he was kind of running 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 7: into a little bit at times, But largely this was 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 7: another very smart performance from blaal Mohammed, who continues to 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 7: do his homework and execute beautiful game plans. The way 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 7: that he puts it all together is always a pleasure 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 7: to watch. And you know, I think he's a study 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 7: in that you don't have to be perfect at everything. 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 7: It's how you combine everything that makes the difference. And 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 7: you know, he's not the best wrestler, he's not the 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 7: best striker, he's not the best submission artist. But his 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 7: ability to do things at the right time and to 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 7: have the right approach against various opponents, Now this isn't 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 7: just a guy that knows how to fight one style. 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: He knows how to beat it in a variety of ways. 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 7: And again it's his intelligence that stands out to me 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 7: after this performance. 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: It's a great point. 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 6: I was talking to my twin brother this morning and 46 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 6: he keeps harkening back to something that Kbim normago Metovs said, 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 6: and that's that Habib himself is smarter than he is tough. 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 6: He would say, you know, I'm smarter than I am tough, 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 6: not that I'm not tough, but obviously that's a big 50 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 6: part of the success for Balao Muhammad is the fight IQ, 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 6: the ability to execute and adjust. You know, Domina Cruz 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 6: was very you know, praise worthy of Balal for his 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 6: execution and even seeing weapons, you know, even throwing a 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 6: spinning back elbow at times because that particular. 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 4: Opening might have been there. 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 6: You know, I think Mike Valley deserves a lot of 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 6: credit for how Balal is game planning and executing that 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 6: left hook in round three. I mean, Luk obviously is 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 6: a skilled fighter, and that was sort of the only 60 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 6: major adversity for Balal in the fight, right, that short 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 6: left hand from Luk that wobbled him. He seemed to recover. 62 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 6: But other than that, Balau was able to take him 63 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 6: down in four or five rounds, if I'm not mistaken, 64 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: he was able to control him on the ground at 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 6: least for sixty seconds or so thereafter, and you know, 66 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 6: easy fight to score and a rather dominant win. I 67 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 6: would say, for you know, number five versus number four. 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, his timing on his takedowns is just impeccable. 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 7: You know, you don't have to be the best finis 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 7: finisher or the best wrestler if you can set them 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 7: up properly, you know, similar to a George Saint Pierre. 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 7: His timing was just better than everybody. So he was 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 7: so deep on your legs that he was going to 74 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 7: finish those takedowns. And Bellall in a little you know, 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 7: different fashion was able to set up those takedowns extremely well, 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 7: largely from his lateral movement, and he sets some beautiful 77 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 7: baits and traps to get those takedowns, and also off 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 7: of his lateral movement, he was landing shots as well. 79 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 7: And for Luke, you know, it doesn't make it, you know, 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 7: an easy fight by any means, but there's very clear 81 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 7: patterns to how Vincente Luke was fighting. And I think 82 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 7: Ballall was onto it very early. And you know, I 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 7: think there were certain times where Balao looked a little uncomfortable. 84 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 7: I think being in a five round fight maybe with 85 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 7: some pressure. I think he'll adjust eventually to that. But 86 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 7: I think it was a great experience for Blao, who was, 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 7: you know, only going to get tougher fights from from 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 7: here on out. 89 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 4: He's on an airplane right now. 90 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 6: Otherwise, he was scheduled to join us here during the 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 6: opening segment, but it didn't align as far as our 92 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 6: window is concerned. But you can be sure he's going 93 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 6: to be heard from on this channel at the very 94 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 6: least Thursday with Remember the Show. But yeah, I think 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 6: you hit on a couple of truths there in terms 96 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 6: of his you know, physical exhaustion. When I saw the 97 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 6: UFC social media and him walking back, I don't know 98 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 6: that I've ever seen him so exact Muhammad, So getting 99 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 6: that twenty five minute experience, I think for him moving 100 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 6: forward is absolutely enormous. But yeah, I thought there were 101 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 6: some moments of uncomfortability on the feet a little bit. 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 6: But I do believe that you're definitely seeing an evolution 103 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 6: on the feed in Balaal in terms of his vision, 104 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 6: creating angles, his strikes. He's just a much more layered 105 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 6: striker and his dogged pressure I think is going to 106 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 6: be a problem for a lot of guys in this division. 107 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 6: You know, people are asking me a lot on a 108 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 6: Sunday morning about what the ceiling is for Balal and 109 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 6: you know, get out of here with the gatekeeper term 110 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 6: right now? You know, when you look at his signature 111 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 6: wins and you look at at how long this unbeaten 112 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 6: streak has lasted for him. You know, I don't know 113 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 6: if his ceiling is championship right. I mean, I do 114 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 6: believe that that there's work to be done to get 115 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 6: on the level of a Covington or a Chimaya, ever 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 6: a Burns or Kamara Usman. But this is a huge 117 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 6: step in the right direction. One thing I also want 118 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 6: to bring up before I forget Ken Flow, Gilbert Burns 119 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 6: pulled Bala Muhammad aside and he said the body kicks 120 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 6: were the biggest, that Luk was affected by those body kicks. 121 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 6: I don't know if you have anything on that. 122 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 7: You know, I tell you what, when I was watching 123 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 7: the fight, to me, they looked absolutely brutal. Those kicks 124 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 7: to the liver and to the body were nasty. They 125 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 7: were landing very, very heavy, and you know, I was 126 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 7: looking intently at Luca's face to see if there was 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 7: any damage or if there was anything. He was not 128 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 7: showing any of it. He was slowing down. But to me, 129 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 7: I'm like, how the hell is this guy not getting 130 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 7: dropped or at least backing up after eating these bodykicks Luke. 131 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: You know, we knew he was tough, but it's absolutely confirmed. 132 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: I saw. 133 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 7: I definitely saw a little bit of a difference in 134 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 7: Luka the way he was moving. But yeah, I'm not surprised. 135 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 7: I mean that that's good to hear that Luka is somewhere. 136 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, and Luk's leg kicks obviously were a big factor 137 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 6: in the fight. You know, I thought the Santa fought 138 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 6: well at times. You know, I'm not sure he had 139 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 6: enough late to rally and his corner thought it was 140 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 6: to two. I thought most people did not think it 141 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 6: was too too going into that fifth round. But a 142 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 6: huge win for Bala Muhammad. You know, he takes the 143 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 6: higher ranking. I believe it was five verses number four 144 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 6: if I'm not mistaken. So as we sort of spin 145 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 6: it forward for Balal and We're going to talk to 146 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 6: Ray Longo about this, so I'm not going to short 147 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 6: change our guy. I threw out a poll question today, 148 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 6: who do you think will be next? Not who would 149 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 6: you like to see next? You know, who do you 150 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 6: think is going to be next? I believe I was. 151 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 6: I believe That's the way I phrased it, so the 152 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 6: you could say Gilbert Burns, kamzat chimay, have Colby Covington 153 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 6: or don't care Slash, I'm a hater, you know, and 154 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 6: sure as shit, twenty three percent of you are fucking 155 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 6: haters out there. Gilbert Burns fifty percent, Colby Covington's seventeen percent, 156 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 6: Kamza Chimai have ten percent. Bilal thinks I'm too much 157 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 6: on the kamzat train, so I gotta be careful saying, 158 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 6: oh man, he didn't say kamzat chimaya again, But you 159 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 6: notice that isn't the day on the tip of his tongue. 160 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: And I understand why. 161 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 6: I think Colby Covington is a fight that makes a 162 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 6: lot of sense, and that has been the guy that 163 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 6: Bilaal has wanted to fight for a long time. You know, 164 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 6: I do think those four are going to handle business. 165 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be Covington, Chi Maya, Burns and Muhammad, 166 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 6: and I think there are gonna be two fights out 167 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 6: of that mix. What do you think they're gonna do 168 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 6: with Blao Muhammad? And how would you like to see 169 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 6: all that mess? For lack of a better way to 170 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 6: put it sorted out, I. 171 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: Think for Bilaal. 172 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 7: I think he matches up better against Covington in my opinion. 173 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 7: I think that's a better fight for him, and obviously 174 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 7: you know he he would like to fight. 175 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: Him as well. 176 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 7: I think Gilbert didn't lose a damn thing after that 177 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 7: Hamsat Chimaya fight, and I think he deserves a guy 178 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 7: like a Bilau why not. 179 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: I think it's a tougher fight for Bilal. 180 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 7: I think, you know, the way that Gilbert is fighting 181 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 7: and the confidence that I'm sure he got after that 182 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 7: Hams out fight, I think that would be a fantastic fight. 183 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 7: Don't know exactly which way it would go. Might give 184 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 7: a slight edge to Burns right now, but yeah, I 185 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 7: think Kamzat and Kolby are probably gonna go, you know, 186 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 7: go next and again, just an awesome fight. Not so 187 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 7: much for Kolby style wise, but I think that's what 188 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 7: the UFC wants, and typically what the UFC wants, the 189 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 7: UFC gets. 190 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 6: Dana White spoke publicly about a possible return to ABC 191 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 6: maybe this summer, and I think they're gonna get a 192 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 6: welterweight main event, and I think it's gonna come out 193 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 6: of this foursome, you know. I think Chimaya of Covington 194 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 6: is the dream. You know, there's a lot of shine 195 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 6: that comes with a Covington fight. I do believe that 196 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 6: Gilbert Burns is is a tricky matchup for anybody, for 197 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 6: Bala Muhammad for sure, but I think that fight makes 198 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 6: a lot of sense. You know, if I'm Balal and 199 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 6: I'm Gilbert, I don't know if you think a five 200 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 6: round fight favors one or the other. I think maybe 201 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 6: I'm not even gonna say right because I don't want 202 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 6: to offend anybody, but I'd be fighting for a co 203 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 6: main event on pay per view if I'm those guys 204 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 6: as opposed to a five round main event. I mean, 205 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 6: do you think a five round style in a potential 206 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 6: Muhammad Burns situation favor one guy or the other? 207 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: I think it might favor Blal. 208 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 7: You know, I think he struggled a little bit, but again, 209 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 7: I know he was dealing with a lot of stuff 210 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 7: leading into this fight. But uh yeah, I mean this 211 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 7: was this was a brutal fight for Balaal. I mean 212 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 7: five hard rounds, but I think he's going to gain 213 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 7: a lot from this whole experience. And as of right now, 214 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 7: as far as a five rounder. Yeah, then maybe I 215 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 7: would sway things over blau'sway. 216 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 6: I just got a text from my buddy. It said, 217 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 6: when are we done with the UFC and silent Arenas? 218 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 6: You know I'm with it, man, I'm with you, rip 219 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 6: UFC APEX, Let's move on, all right. So, you know, 220 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 6: there's some people who don't think I know much about fighting, 221 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 6: and I would contend to those people, you probably know 222 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 6: more about fighting than me. I probably know more about 223 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 6: television formatics than you. It is what it is, right. 224 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 6: I am certainly passionate about fighting. I've called a lot 225 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 6: of high level fights dating to two thousand and nine. 226 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 6: But somebody replied to a tweet that I wrote about 227 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 6: Blau Muhammad and and so I you know, one thing 228 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 6: I wrote, I would just like to see him ad 229 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 6: Ason signature choke to broaden his overall threat. But he's 230 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 6: a real problem. And I said some very nice things 231 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 6: on the front end of that. Someone wrote to me, 232 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 6: Kenny John, I think it's an American wrestling thing. Oosman 233 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 6: Kolbe and blow All favorite control over the submission threat. 234 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 6: And I reached out to d C today. I hope 235 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 6: I didn't wake him, but I have yet to get 236 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 6: a reply. So you know, you weren't some amazing double 237 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 6: leg guy necessarily, but certainly when you got somebody's back. 238 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 6: You're laughing, right, I don't necessarily know what I'm talking about, 239 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 6: but when you got somebody's back, the fight was over. 240 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: The fight was over. Period. 241 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 6: You know, Kenny was stronger than you would expect. I'm 242 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 6: sure Daniel Cormier two, I know you guys in studio 243 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 6: would talk a lot about chokes and little nuances when 244 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 6: it came to the submission game, and he was able 245 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 6: to put a lot of guys away. Now, he was 246 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 6: obviously very strong, but DC had chokes for days, and 247 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 6: I guess I would just bring this back up. I 248 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 6: talk about it with Curtis Blades. You know, it seemed 249 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 6: like whenever Blau would get too offensive and get to Vicente, 250 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 6: Lucaz back to Vicente was able to get back to 251 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 6: his feet onto anything here. Or is it just that 252 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 6: these guys Colby included, you know, seem to lean more 253 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 6: towards control than trying to get a guy out of there. 254 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 6: I know it's a loaded question on an Easter Sunday. 255 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 7: Well I would say this, you know, do they favor control? 256 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 7: Or are they better at control? Do they favor control or 257 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 7: they're just not good at submissions. You know, it's not 258 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 7: like I have really good submissions, but I just want 259 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 7: to control them. 260 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: I don't want to submit them. I prefer just controlling them. 261 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 7: I want to I want to extend the fight for 262 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 7: as long as possible and give them, give them as 263 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 7: many chances as possible for them to hit me. 264 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: I think that's the smart approach. 265 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 7: No, listen, that's what they do, that's what they're good at, 266 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 7: So that's what they're going to do. So I think 267 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 7: absolutely ballal And and Uzman and those guys would would 268 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 7: definitely gain from being sharper with their submissions. Every chance 269 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 7: you allow someone to get to their feet, that is 270 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 7: a chance for you to get knocked out. So I 271 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 7: think that there certain people out there right and we've 272 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 7: all seen them, whether it's the Tony. 273 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 4: Ferguson's or the Justin gae Cheese. 274 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 7: Or you know those zombies that keep coming forward that 275 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 7: have iron chins. They don't understand pain, they don't understand doubt, 276 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 7: they don't understand getting hurt to the chin. You need 277 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 7: to have science and physics get involved where it doesn't 278 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 7: matter how badly they want to fight, right, you choke 279 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 7: off the blood of their brain, they go to sleep, 280 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 7: game over. 281 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: Sorry, thanks for coming right well. 282 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 6: And like, with all due respect to my man kenfl 283 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 6: You know, I'm the president of Team Florian. But like, 284 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 6: why is ken Flow still in the record books in 285 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 6: terms of these all time submissions? 286 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: Right? 287 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 6: You would think eventually, right, Kenny, like that eventually guys 288 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 6: would start to pass you, whether it be because of longevity. 289 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 6: But it's not happening, you know what I mean, It's 290 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 6: still Nathiez and Kenny Flori And every time you show 291 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 6: a fuck a rear naked show record book. You know 292 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like, it doesn't happen. You know, we're 293 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 6: gonna talk to Claudi opooh yes later today. I believe 294 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 6: you have se lightweight fighting Clay Weed in the comin 295 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 6: event this weekend. I think he's the only fighter in 296 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 6: UFC history knee bars? Does he just have the greatest 297 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 6: knebar of all time? Or do people not know how 298 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 6: to execute knee bars? I don't fucking know. You know, 299 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna put on the GI to find out either, 300 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 6: you know, But I just I don't know man, I 301 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 6: wonder if if you had some of these guys as students. 302 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 6: You know, am I being too simple when it come 303 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 6: really trying to master you know, the figure four body 304 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 6: lock and a rear naked choke and getting under the 305 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 6: neck and switching hands and all that bullshit. I mean, 306 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 6: Cody Donovan obviously has worked hard with Curtis, you know. 307 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 6: I know it's more fun to box, you know, but. 308 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. 309 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: I just think that for a Muhammad or a Covington, 310 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 6: you know, to add that wrinkle to their game. I mean, 311 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 6: you know, Gilbert has it, but he wants to knock 312 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 6: you out. I mean, we're one of those guys to 313 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 6: really add that to their game. And maybe it's simplistic, 314 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 6: but I think because there's a lot of criticism for 315 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 6: Balal today and it drives me nuts. But you know, certainly, 316 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 6: if he finishes him with a bodykick, you know, he's 317 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 6: not Gigi Chi Kaz. But if he finishes him with 318 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 6: a bodykick or he chokes him out, the whole new 319 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 6: is different. But because it goes the different distance, people have, 320 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 6: you know, grounds on which to complain. 321 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, people are gonna complain either way, and listen, 322 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 7: no matter what level you're at, fighting is a work 323 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 7: in progress constantly. There is not one guy in mixed 324 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 7: martial arts who is perfect at everything. That You're always 325 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 7: going to have your strengths and weaknesses. Uh, And you know, 326 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 7: it's something that Bellalla I'm sure is working on and 327 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 7: will work on. And a lot of times it's this, 328 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 7: it's I don't know the position so well from the back, 329 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 7: I don't know how to control so well. So I'm 330 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 7: just I'd rather stay on top or you know, uh, 331 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 7: kind of ditch the position and go to something else 332 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 7: as opposed to maybe get it half assed and then 333 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 7: they get out and get on top, and now you 334 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 7: just lost your opportunity. So I think it really comes 335 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 7: down to really not understanding the position as well as 336 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 7: you can. And you know, I think there's some great 337 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 7: guys that taken it back, obviously Dan me and Maya 338 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 7: is another guy, of course. And you know, yeah, I 339 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 7: think it's it's either ignored or maybe they're they're not 340 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 7: just putting in the work in that in that aspect 341 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 7: as much as they should. But for a guy like Balal, 342 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 7: the way that he sets up his takedowns, I think 343 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 7: that might be the next evolution for him is you know, looking. 344 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: To take that back. 345 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, control it and then look for ways to finish 346 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 7: from that position, and that will add yet another dangerous 347 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 7: wrinkle in his game. 348 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 6: Ken Flow kind of agrees with me, folks. I don't 349 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 6: know what else to tell you on a Sunday morning, 350 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 6: but no, I think it's interesting. 351 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: I think it would be interesting for Balau to comment 352 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: on that. 353 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 6: And I will also say that we had asked Balal 354 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 6: in the past about leg kicks and he really thought 355 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 6: it was a mental and physical toughness thing. Certainly, if 356 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 6: the nerve gets compromised, however temporarily, it can affect things. 357 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 6: But obviously he had to deal with that. Luke was 358 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 6: twenty four of twenty six to the legs and Muhamma 359 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 6: was able to fight right through that. So congratulations Blao. 360 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 6: Remember the name Muhammad. He has a video podcast on 361 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 6: this channel with my twin brother Jason Thursday Night. Remember 362 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 6: the show. Ten current or former UFC champions have been 363 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 6: on that program. Kayla Harrison also has been on that program. 364 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 6: What a peach she is. We congratulate Balal, and I 365 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 6: do think it might be Gilbert Dearino Burns next, which 366 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 6: puts me in an interesting spot because you know, I 367 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 6: feel like I'm kind of on both of their teams 368 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 6: in some respect, just given where I work out. Won't 369 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 6: say I train, but where I work out at the 370 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 6: Institute of Human Performance, where Gilbert does. And then obviously 371 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 6: we align with Balal on this channel, so very exciting things, 372 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 6: very exciting things. And al Jamain Serling another guy. You know, 373 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 6: he could take your back and has good chokes, and 374 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that the choke can't be defended, right 375 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 6: Piodri Yachd defended well. But I don't know, man, I 376 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 6: don't know. I just find myself thinking about this a lot. 377 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 6: You know, somebody knock Kenful out of the record books already. 378 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 6: It's fucking too. 379 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: All right? 380 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: Anything else for me on this fight card? 381 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 6: Did you see Andre Fialio over Miguel Baieza Caramel Thunder? 382 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 6: This Portuguese fighter is very interesting. I think he's the 383 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 6: only Portugal born fighter on the roster right now, and 384 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: he does happen to do his strength and conditioning there 385 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 6: at the Institute of Human Performance, which is neither here 386 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 6: nor there. Shout out to Jayson and Rio Santana. Did 387 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 6: you see that fight? Between Filio and Baeza. Man, fucking unreal. 388 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: I did you know Baasa. 389 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 7: You know, he's a guy with so much potential and 390 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 7: he gets a lot of these tough fights, man, and 391 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 7: he was certainly in one here against Filio, and uh, 392 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 7: a lot of people have been talking about Fialio for 393 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 7: a long time. This guy hits very hard. Uh, he's consistent, 394 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 7: he's got a chin from hell as well, and man, 395 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 7: just heavy hands. Ended up getting it done in a 396 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 7: big win. Because you know, early on when I saw 397 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 7: Baiaz a fight, I thought he was a very interesting 398 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 7: prospect who could do some big things in this sport. Yeah, 399 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 7: but uh, Fialio man too tough, too heavy handed. 400 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a lot of experience. 401 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 6: And Fialo another one of these guys who's sort of 402 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 6: married to the game. 403 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: You know. 404 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 6: Oftentimes I get asked about betting advice over text message 405 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 6: or otherwise for these fights, and contractually, I'm really not 406 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 6: even supposed to respond to those inquiries, you know, but 407 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 6: I have said publicly, you know, betting on the Cardio 408 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 6: guy and betting on guys who you know are married 409 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 6: to the game. Twenty four to seven, three sixty five. 410 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 6: I don't think is ever a bad thing. And I'm 411 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 6: not gonna sit here on a Sunday morning and suggest that, 412 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 6: you know, Vicente Luke lost this fight because his daughter 413 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 6: and his one year old were with him, you know, 414 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 6: but you know, he was on our chair. We interviewed 415 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 6: him on the show before he went back to Brazilia. 416 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 6: He's dealing with a newborn everything. You know, there's just 417 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 6: a lot of different things, and juxtaposed against a guy 418 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 6: in Blal who even during Ramadan is just he's married 419 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 6: to Instagram Balal, but he's also married to the fight game. 420 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: You know. 421 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it definitely plays a part. You know, 422 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 7: I'm real lucky that I didn't have a family when 423 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 7: I was fighting, you know, being professional athlete in a 424 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 7: lot of different forms. I think, especially when it comes 425 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 7: to the fight game, there's a certain level of selfishness 426 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 7: that you must have for better or worse, and that 427 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 7: could be trouble. But I think the other thing for Luk, 428 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 7: just on a technical level, is his footwork. You know 429 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 7: where he's gonna be, you know, he just kind of 430 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 7: plods forward. It doesn't mean it's easy to deal with 431 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 7: because he is coming forward and he's tough as hell, 432 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 7: and he's got a chint from hell. But knowing that 433 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 7: the guy in front of you is predictable and you 434 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 7: know where he's going to be based on how he's 435 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 7: moving is not a good thing. And I think that's 436 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 7: why billal was getting some great timing on those takedowns 437 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 7: while he was landing some shots off of his lateral movement. 438 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 7: But yeah, so I'd like to see a little bit 439 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 7: more fainting and a little bit more trickery. I think 440 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 7: with his footwork he's mixing up his strikes well, but 441 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 7: I think he became a little bit too predictable in 442 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 7: how he approaches it. 443 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: That kind of plodding muy Thai style stance and footwork 444 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 4: can be good on a striking basis, but for Mma, 445 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: I think you need to be a little bit sneakier 446 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: with it. 447 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 6: One score I think was initially announced forty nine forty seven, 448 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 6: but as I look at it today, forty nine forty 449 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 6: six times too dissenting. Judge had at forty eight forty 450 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 6: seven and Blah Muhamma was the underdog here. He'll be 451 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 6: the underdog against Gilbert Burns. He'll be the underdog against 452 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 6: Kamza Chimayev and Kolbe Covington for sure. But you know, 453 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 6: I just find it interesting that if you know, the 454 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 6: bodykick is one millimeter in a different spot and it 455 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 6: finishes Luke, imagine the narrative today, Oh shit, man, Welko 456 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 6: bull Ale's finishing dudes with a bodykick, you know, And 457 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 6: that might even be a false narrative in terms of 458 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 6: what to expect in the future. But I love Luke. 459 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 6: I love his coaches. That's the other side of this. 460 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 6: I know you don't like when I say it, but 461 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 6: this is absolutely a two year championship setback for him 462 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: and gonna be hard for him to work his way 463 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 6: to a title fight, just given all the depth a 464 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 6: one hundred and seven pounds. But we congratulate Blaal Muhammad, 465 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 6: and you know, to my brother and to Blal and 466 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 6: to Cody Merrow, the executive producer and director of Remember 467 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 6: the show. You know, puff your fucking chest out today 468 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 6: if you want, you know, steriously, because a lot of 469 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: hard work has gone into that. It's not like that 470 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 6: show is printing money necessarily right now. And uh, you know, 471 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 6: just a lot of hard work, good people, and they're 472 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 6: all team Muhammad and it's just very exciting stuff and uh, 473 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 6: we're very happy for a really good dude. Blaal all right, 474 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 6: that's gonna do it. We'll have more of course coming 475 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 6: up with Ray Longo, who has a lot to say 476 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 6: as the celebration for UFC vandam why champion al Jamaine 477 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 6: Sterling continues. Aljoel one hundred and seventy six pounds right 478 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 6: now as of this tape, and Ken Floyd told him, yeah, 479 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 6: I said, get up to one eighty. Yeah, he's won 480 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 6: seventy six point four. Yeah, get up to one eighty first, 481 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 6: that's insane and then you can turn and burn. And 482 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 6: he wrote back, he's like everything hurt. So you know 483 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, you feel you know, fuck nutty buddy 484 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 6: is starting to like push on you know, your ribcage. Yeah, 485 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 6: all right, well, Ray Longo has answered the bell on 486 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 6: this Easter Sunday. Let us get to the Ray Longo minute. 487 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minute. 488 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 8: And I'm gonna bunch a hole in this. 489 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 6: That's what I want, the. 490 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: Ray long Minute. The John Anick and Kenny Florian podcast. 491 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 6: Is that an Anakimp Florian podcast t shirt that you 492 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 6: wear that is coming. 493 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: Come on, look at that. 494 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 9: I represent like you guys, man, I tell you was 495 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 9: that the was that the cff C this weekend. Big 496 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 9: shout out to Rob Haydak and Arius the matchmaker took 497 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 9: care of really treated me like Gold treated Al Joe great. 498 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 9: And Uh my point is with that is that so 499 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 9: many people coming up with the Ray Longo T shirts on. 500 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 9: I don't know, Kenny, it's embarrassing because the guy came. 501 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 9: I took a picture with a guy with my shirt 502 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 9: and then I asked him for five dollars so I 503 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 9: could buy it. 504 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: Fricking Actually, we got it. 505 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 7: We got to keep embarrassing Ray out there. So if 506 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 7: you get it, shut go up to Ray please. 507 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 9: With these guys think they're making me happy when they 508 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 9: come up to me with the shirt on, I'm miserable. 509 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't wait to meet your daughters one day. 510 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 6: I'm like, what do you think about your old man? 511 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 9: On? 512 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 6: All these T shirts and a florianpodcast dot com. Cody 513 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 6: will give us a promo code here in the next 514 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 6: sixty seconds. But now that we've cleared up that audio, uh, 515 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 6: it's great to see you. We appreciate you carving out 516 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 6: a few minutes for us on Easter Sunday. We have 517 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 6: special things planned today. We're actually gonna go back and 518 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 6: watch the first ten minutes of Pyodrian and al Jamain Sterling. 519 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 6: Watch the first five minutes because obviously people thought Round 520 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 6: one was close, and then we're gonna watch Round two 521 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 6: again to see whether or not we all believe it 522 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 6: was a ten eight. Obviously you won't get video here 523 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 6: because we don't have the right, but we will sort 524 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 6: of do running commentary and talk about it. 525 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: But before we do that, uh, why. 526 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: Don't we have the rights? I thought we were big 527 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: shots in the US city. 528 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 6: Maybe you can talk to your buddy Matt Sarah and 529 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 6: see if he can pull some strings. I don't wheel 530 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 6: a lot of power, but I will say Blah Muhammad 531 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 6: really performed in the main event against Vicente Luke. I 532 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 6: know you're happy for Blaw. What do you have for 533 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 6: us on the main event? Before we get to the 534 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: matter at hand. 535 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: Man, he came up with a great game plan. 536 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 9: The movement was fine. I know a lot of people 537 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 9: don't like movement. 538 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of it. Ah, but uh, you know, yeah, sure, 539 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: you know whatever. But he had a great game plan. 540 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 9: He used his movement when he when he had to 541 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 9: do what he had to do, you know, with dutiful 542 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 9: timing under takedowns, even his striking, I think with the 543 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 9: movement offset Luka just enough to get his hands going. 544 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: Just a very smart fight, very smart fight. 545 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 6: Did did you see what al Joe Wade this morning? 546 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 6: Or did he not see that yet? 547 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: I didn't see that yet. 548 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 6: All right, I'll say over under one hundred and seventy 549 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 6: three pounds. You think he's over under one seventy three 550 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 6: right now? 551 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: Over under one seventy three. Let me, I'm saying he's under. 552 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: Over one seventy point four. 553 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: Before Eastern dinner, So. 554 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: He's not. 555 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 9: He's not one seventies six. 556 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 6: Hey, you're on Instagram. Not quite as much as Balao, 557 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 6: but you're on it enough to know go check it out. Well, Wow, 558 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 6: whatever it. 559 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: Is, that's that's pretty big. 560 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 6: Look at this guy, some splash Ray Long go on 561 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 6: a fucking Easter Sunday at the gym. You know, pupils 562 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 6: walking in just gives them the look. 563 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: What do you want me to do? 564 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 6: General? 565 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: Ignore them? 566 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 9: General ignore him like a cocksucker. 567 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: No, I gotta acknowledge everybody. 568 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 6: We need a nickname for long Ago at Anta Cholean 569 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 6: pot if Safe Southood wasn't the general, I think that 570 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 6: would make a lot of sense. But how about long 571 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 6: Ago winning the UFC championship undisputed in his forties, fifties 572 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 6: and sixties. I mean, do we have a hall of. 573 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 9: Fame that that, I will tell you will never be topped. 574 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 9: A lot of guys, a lot of guys won't even 575 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 9: make it to the sixties. 576 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know that. 577 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: That's a meat in itself. 578 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 6: That's never have three home grown, home state undisputed UFC 579 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 6: champion totally impossible. 580 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 4: And if they do, they won't have as much hair 581 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 4: as Ray Longo. 582 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: That's right. 583 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 9: I'm gonna get him on something. It doesn't matter what 584 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 9: it is. I don't care if it's If it comes 585 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 9: down to hair, then that's what we do. Because obviously 586 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 9: after a week after, you know, after performing the hat trick, finally, 587 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 9: I just you know, the fans let me know, I 588 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 9: just still suck at everything, you know, So it's all good, 589 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 9: it's a coming. I'm sure it's all coming from a 590 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 9: good space. But man, imagine that though, really, you know, Kenny, 591 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 9: there's always that guy goes to gets to the Olympics. 592 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: He wins the. 593 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 9: Silver medal, and some douchebag on the corner goes back 594 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 9: he didn't get the gold medal. You know, like they 595 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 9: don't even see. Like, just to get to the Olympics 596 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 9: is a huge thing. Just to have guys fighting for 597 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 9: the championship winn lose is not an easy thing to do, right, 598 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 9: But you know, whatever it is, what it is, I 599 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 9: love it. 600 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: I actually embrace it. 601 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 9: I love it. We laugh about it at the gym. 602 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 9: So it provides a lot of a lot of entertainment. 603 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 9: But the only thing that matters is I'm happy. 604 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: That's it. 605 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 6: Ken on that podium. That's all I'm saying. At jiu 606 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 6: jitsu competition, that'd be an angry Ken Flow. You don't 607 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 6: end up on that fucking podium. I'm just a kemploient 608 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 6: looking for fourth place. I'll tell you that. All right, 609 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: we have a lot to get to today. By the way, 610 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 6: shout out to Drakar close right, Ken Flow. In terms 611 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 6: of like believer, I wanted to spend extra time in 612 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 6: the octagon. I know he was a massive betting favorite, 613 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 6: but like fighting, like I gotta get out of here, 614 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 6: Like I'm not trying to, you know, take any risk again, dude, 615 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 6: who's like plus five fifty against me? You know, So 616 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 6: all right, unless you have anything else, Ray, I would 617 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 6: like to get to round one UFC two seventy three 618 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 6: Vantam Weight Championship Puodurion versus al Jamine Sterling. 619 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 9: Let's do it, all right, let's do it. 620 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 6: So basically, we're all going to watch this back and 621 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 6: sort of give our two cents as it expires. I 622 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 6: know I did say Ray that when I was watching 623 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 6: the fight live. And hopefully this video will start to fire, 624 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 6: because if it doesn't, this will defeat the whole point. 625 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: But when I was watching it live, there it goes. 626 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 6: I felt like Yan won the first round. But then 627 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 6: I looked to my left at the numbers and there 628 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 6: was like, oh, there's no way he won the round 629 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 6: based upon the numbers, right, And I also have other 630 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 6: things going on, so my score card really matters the 631 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 6: least of the three of us here. 632 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: But what were your thoughts on round one? I guess 633 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 4: before watching it back is the action stuff? 634 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: Now, I thought he controlled it with his footwork. 635 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 9: He fought when he you know, he fought on his terms, 636 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 9: not on Yon's terms, and and. 637 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: That was it. 638 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 9: He landed a beautiful elbow, which I thought was the 639 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 9: most telling blow in the whole first round, and his 640 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 9: ribs were already starting to get red from the body 641 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 9: kick on the liver side. 642 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 6: Ken do play by play, Kenny pushed out a tweet 643 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 6: that was repurposing. 644 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 9: I mean there's a I mean there's a little late kick, 645 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 9: but at least he's doing something. 646 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: He looks Beautiful's the. 647 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: Third kick he's thrown, n't anything, So. 648 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 9: I hasn't done a goddamn thing yet, right, So look, 649 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 9: he's still just getting to read. He's going side at 650 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 9: the side. He's pot shotting them a little bit Larry again, 651 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 9: you know. And again he's not running, he's not running away. 652 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 9: He's using his footwork. Look at that take down the 653 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 9: tenth get stuff. Big swing and a miss, big swing, 654 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 9: a big kick and a miss. Way So as of now, 655 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 9: first minute down, who's winning? 656 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, al Jael, who's winning? 657 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: Josh for sure? 658 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: Easy, easy, still moving. 659 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's controlling that lead hand beautifully side to side. 660 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 9: There's a kick that's blocked, another kick has anything, and 661 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 9: he's backing up every time al Jil throws. 662 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: He gets the hell out of this all right? Who's controlling? 663 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 9: What? There's a nice body kick. He has a nice. 664 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 6: Right hand, generous giving him a nice right hand there. 665 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 9: Well, whatever, it's it's something John, I mean, what what 666 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 9: is Franken? 667 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: What is Frankenstein doing? 668 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 10: I'm just just bonus commentary rot Crypto dot com dot 669 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 10: com one. 670 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: No, Cody, there's a there's a swing in the miss. 671 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 4: I love you though. 672 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: There's a body tick and a swing and a miss. 673 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: He made a miss and there's a beautiful bodykick. All right. 674 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: With two minutes down, who's winning? 675 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 11: John? 676 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 4: I wonder Yan still hasn't landed a shot? 677 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: John? Who's winning? 678 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: Great start through two minutes? 679 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: Okay? With two minutes. 680 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 6: Flows tweet that I was referencing when we're done watching 681 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 6: round one? So under three Minnesota. We fucking worked on that. 682 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 6: That ladder movement, right, you guys worked on that. He's 683 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 6: moving beautifully. Uh podre Jan stalking his prey out of 684 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 6: the south. 685 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: There from Yon, that tick might have landed nice. 686 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 7: So I think, you know, the the commentary little the 687 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 7: commentary at this point, you know, when it started, it 688 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 7: seemed to kind of focus on Yaan and how he 689 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 7: was pursuing and looking for a big shot to try 690 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 7: to take Al Joe out, and it was like, you know, 691 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 7: it seemed like the narrative maybe from Joe and d 692 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 7: C was that, you know, Jan was pursuing, he was 693 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 7: looking for a big shot, and it was kind of 694 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 7: there was no I thought, talk about Al. 695 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 4: Joe landing these shots in the early in the early. 696 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 9: There's a leg kick right three minutes down. I mean, 697 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 9: it's so far, it's very clear there's a he punched him, 698 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 9: I think in. 699 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: His lat and his lamp muscle. 700 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 6: Right again, that's always a possibility, and right that the 701 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 6: focus is so much on one athlete and not. 702 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: Swinging a miss, a big swing and a miss again. 703 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 6: But I would own that every day of the week. Like, 704 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 6: I'm totally okay with that. There's no redos, you. 705 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 5: Know, a little right hook over the top, nothing that 706 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 5: was a couple of and just a keep a moncupyed 707 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 5: he misses again. 708 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, without of that, I don't know. I mean, you 709 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: gotta be. 710 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 9: A fucking fool to score this round for Jan, I 711 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 9: be honest with you. Now we're four minutes in and 712 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 9: the guy has done nothing. Did he get hit with 713 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 9: the elbow yet? 714 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 6: So four minutes down one minute to go on the round. 715 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 6: I do believe Sterling is ahead in the round. And uh, 716 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 6: let's see how this final minute plays out. Al Joe 717 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 6: circling on the outside, a couple on the left hand. 718 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 6: Hard to see if it landed Aljoe to the body. 719 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 9: Oh what an elbow, Holy ship. 720 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: I can't believe I missed. 721 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 4: That the first and then. 722 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 6: Back but Yan counters with a kick. You don't say 723 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 6: anything like I don't want to argue. 724 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 9: But wait, Charlie Campbell, come here for a second. Just 725 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 9: it say I everybody, Charlie Campbell just crushed it at 726 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 9: the cff C. Just wanted to get a quick shout out. 727 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 4: What's up, Charlie, Charlie man little. 728 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: That's when you get. That's when you get when they 729 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 2: do the podcast. 730 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 9: That the Jim Tammio appearance from the Big Big Guns. 731 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: That's good. 732 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 4: Oh they exchanged some right hands or left hands from Yon. 733 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: Round over. 734 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 6: Had moments late in the round. No I think al 735 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 6: Joel won that. Round ten nine. Ken Flow tweeted, go 736 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 6: back and watch round one. Watch for landed strikes, effective techniques, 737 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 6: et cetera. Not a controversial decision walking forward and not 738 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 6: throwing slash landing. Anything doesn't win you around one, two, 739 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 6: three for Aljoe, four and five for Young All right, beauty, Yes, 740 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 6: I will easy. I haven't watched it back well again, Yeah, 741 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 6: I mean I I I don't think it was as 742 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 6: easy as you guys do. 743 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 4: But yes, ten nine sterling. 744 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 9: But John, you got to remember me and Kenny have 745 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 9: a very experienced eye. 746 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 2: You got, hey, if. 747 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 6: You listen to the opening segment of our show. I 748 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 6: got people who bang on my fight IQ all the time. 749 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 6: Join the party. I don't care. I really don't. 750 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: You know. 751 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 6: I'm confident enough in what I bring to the table 752 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 6: and what I have seen over you know fifteen years 753 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 6: of watching MMA that I sleep well at night. 754 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: No, of course we know what you bring to the table. 755 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 4: But you acknowledged any strike that Yon landed there. 756 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: In round Now is round two? Oh you hit him in. 757 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 2: I saw that strike. 758 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: So now is round two. 759 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 6: And you know we'll bail on this, probably Cody at 760 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 6: some point when Al Joe has the back. But I 761 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 6: think this is a ten eight. Kenny, and I didn't 762 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 6: necessarily think that at the time, even though I did 763 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 6: wonder aloud on the broadcast, I did mention it but 764 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 6: based upon my interpretation of the way you're supposed to 765 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 6: be scoring rounds these days and the way we're trying 766 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 6: to affect change with our broken scoring system. You know, 767 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 6: even if al Jamaine wasn't threatening or having submission attempts 768 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 6: pile up having the back for that long and preventing 769 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 6: Yon from being able to get out of that position. 770 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 6: To me, I think you gotta go ten eight. Otherwise 771 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 6: our scoring systems just fucked forever. 772 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 4: John, I think you're spot on for a couple of reasons. 773 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 7: First of all, when you take someone's back with the 774 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 7: with the body triangle, I equate it to someone sitting 775 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 7: up against the cage, covering up and eating shots, not 776 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 7: for whatever that amount of time that he had the back, right, 777 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 7: so three minutes. If you're if you're just covering up 778 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 7: for three minutes and you're in the fetal position up 779 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 7: against the cage, that's a ten eight. Like you're not 780 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 7: doing anything offensively, you're just defending. He went right into 781 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 7: the mountain. Yeah, right now, now Aljoe's in the mountain 782 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 7: here and he takes the back and there's nothing offensive 783 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 7: that Yon can possibly do from here. There's nothing not 784 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 7: to mention I think what really sealed the deal is 785 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 7: when al Jo got him bellied down and did some 786 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 7: really shots in that position. 787 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 9: Nobody those Yeah, and it's crazy, that's like, you know, 788 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 9: that's the that's the cherry on top for me as 789 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 9: far as a ten eight. 790 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 7: But like when you're when you're in the body triangle, right, 791 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 7: whether you know and what we had, we've been in 792 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 7: here now since three minutes and forty seconds. 793 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 4: Or something like that. 794 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 7: That is a lot of time to be in that highly, 795 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 7: highly defensive position. There's nothing offensively that Joan was doing 796 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 7: or capable of doing from this position. This is as 797 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 7: dominant a position as you can get in grappling. This 798 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 7: was a ten eight for sure. 799 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: Listen, hey, listen, does Jean want to be there? John? 800 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 9: Does he want to be No? Get out, he's a 801 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 9: he's a world champion right. 802 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 6: That year. 803 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 4: He has no. 804 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 6: Answer coming at me, as if I am like, no. 805 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 806 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 9: Hold on, second, well, you're the only guy that when 807 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 9: I walked the way to answer the door, said you 808 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 9: scored the round for jan Away? Who am I going? 809 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: Tenny? He agrees with me. 810 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 6: Well, but but having watched it back again, I didn't 811 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 6: think it was we could disagree until we're blue in 812 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 6: the face. We got around too right now, And like 813 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 6: when you say, like nobody saw that, you know, I 814 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 6: think funny. What about the judges, I mean none of 815 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 6: them had a ten eight and round two? 816 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 4: Is that correct? 817 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm trying, Yeah, I'm trying to be facetious though 818 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 9: I'm not literally you know whatever. But the point of 819 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 9: this is that Yan has no answer for the body triangle, yes, exactly. 820 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 6: And now we're coming up on two minutes in this position, 821 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 6: and you know, again those three words dominance, duration and damage. 822 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 6: And if you want to argue there isn't damage being done, 823 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 6: I would challenge you on that because obviously he's sapping 824 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 6: his tank to whatever degree. But there's for a long 825 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 6: ass time about those shots. 826 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 9: You know, yeah, nothing. Now he's going for the choke. 827 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 9: He did a good job at protecting his neck. I'll 828 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 9: give him that, but he couldn't do anything. He got 829 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 9: rendered helpless in this round period. 830 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 7: And here here for me, these are hard shots. He's 831 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 7: got it barey down. Well, he's a very hard shot. 832 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 9: Look, John, if this is what it comes down to, 833 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 9: depending on who you like, is gonna be how you're 834 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 9: gonna go towards this fight period. You know they're in 835 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 9: trouble now. They gave the first round al jaeh, and 836 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 9: there's a potential ten eight. It's gonna make it hard 837 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 9: for Yant even win the fight out of that. So 838 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 9: if you don't think I sway to god, I know, 839 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 9: it's human nature. It's just human nature. It is a 840 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 9: ten eight round for sure. Yeah, so I can't do anything. 841 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: What's this? 842 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 12: Yeah? 843 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean so I when he looks back at this, no, 844 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 6: I know. So now it's been north of three minutes 845 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 6: total domination. I mean, this has got to be clear 846 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 6: his day ten eight. And we are going to have 847 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 6: scoring experts on she and on the program next week, 848 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 6: and I will certainly challenge him on this among other things. 849 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 6: You know, I think this is a forty eight forty 850 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 6: six fight now as far as I'm concerned. Is that 851 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 6: my math right, thirty nine or whatever it is? Yeah, 852 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 6: I mean ten nine al Joe in round one for me, 853 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 6: upon further review, and then this is the clearest day 854 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 6: ten eight and round two clearest day. 855 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 9: So let me say something, everybody, is what I recommend. 856 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 9: Go listen to Brendan Shob Go to his podcast not 857 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 9: the fight companion. 858 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,479 Speaker 2: What he did. 859 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 9: He knocks it out of the park, he knocks the 860 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 9: cover off the ball. 861 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 2: He's dead on with everything. He says, dead on. 862 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 4: Thank you did some might suggest to ten eight. All right, 863 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 4: so see there you go, right, thank you, Cody. 864 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 6: See Cody always support me. All right, there it is? 865 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 9: What are you gonna do? I got a little excited? 866 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 6: You great? So yeah, I mean I really feel like 867 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 6: in order to manipulate or better work with our ten 868 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 6: nine must scoring system, you gotta be more liberal with 869 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 6: the ten eights. And if that is not a round that, 870 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 6: I really don't know what we're doing out here. So 871 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 6: that's got to feel pretty good to watch it back. 872 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, it's all love, man, It's all love. You know. 873 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 9: Johnna felt good that Johnnah felt great when I was there, 874 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 9: and it feels better even when I'm home. I mean, 875 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 9: but I guess for me, like again, it would have 876 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 9: been a tragedy to me if they scored that first 877 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 9: round for jan and he lost that fight, I would 878 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 9: have been I would have lost my shit for sure. 879 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 9: I mean I thought it was an easy one two 880 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 9: three to score ten eight in the second round. 881 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 2: You know, it's just it look, it is. 882 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 9: What it is, man, I don't know it is what 883 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 9: it is. I don't have a real down Joe. 884 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 6: Nobody likes it, But I don't have a rooting interest 885 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 6: in the fight. Okay, but anyone who watches this show 886 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 6: would probably say, despite that I'm close with Yan's manager 887 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 6: and increasingly close with Pyoder himself, that oh Anak and 888 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 6: longer buddies. Of course he's rooting for fucking aujects early. 889 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 6: But I'm just telling you, like, if I was a 890 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 6: judge right on that night, watching from my angle, I 891 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 6: probably would have gotten that round wrong. And if you 892 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 6: looked at my scorecards historically, you would have been like, yeah, 893 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 6: I mean that was a bad card from John Annack 894 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 6: having round one. 895 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 9: No, I didn't think that, you know, I don't think 896 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 9: of you was sitting by yourself. You're gonna get that 897 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 9: round right, fair, That's what I think. 898 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 6: Can closet point, maybe I need to go back, And 899 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 6: I was drinking the Yon kool aid too much. 900 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 4: I didn't hear. 901 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 7: Just to be clear, I didn't hear that from you necessarily, 902 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 7: but just that the narrative to start was kind of, 903 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 7: you know, talking about Yon pursuing the fight and kind 904 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 7: of walking forward. 905 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, but pursuing really but doing it. But he 906 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 2: wasn't doing basically nothing, man. I mean, like again, listen 907 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 2: to Brendan Shop. 908 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 9: I think he knocked the cover off the ball with 909 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 9: his his and I don't think he's got a dog 910 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 9: in the fight, you know what I mean. I'm telling 911 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 9: you everybody who said al Joe was was was faking 912 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 9: and that he he lost in the first fight. What 913 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 9: do they They have to double down. They can throw 914 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 9: him a little shine, but then they gotta go back. 915 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 9: You know, look, he took a lot of shift from 916 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 9: people making fun of them. 917 00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 2: You know, got need ahead. 918 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 9: It's not even on him, but for some reason, everything 919 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 9: was shifted towards him. 920 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 2: It's just it's rotten, man. I mean, let me. 921 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 9: Tell you, so, if anybody could talk about mindset, it's 922 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 9: al Jamine Sterling, because I agree what he had to 923 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 9: go through for that year. And I'll tell you even 924 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 9: more importantly to me, how he bounced back after the 925 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 9: Marlon Maraiz fight. 926 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: This kid, he's got something you got to you gotta 927 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 2: give it up to him. 928 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 9: He bounced back from a brutal knockout for Marlon Marais 929 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 9: and look, Marlin's retired now he's the champion. He stayed 930 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 9: the course. He believed in himself, and he stayed the course, 931 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 9: and then he had to redo it again for thirteen 932 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 9: months listening to all this fucking bullshit out there that 933 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 9: the guy's getting the Academy Award for taking a knee 934 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 9: to the head. Yeah, he should get the Academy Award 935 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 9: for not be not going totally unconscious. 936 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: That's what you should give the award for. 937 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy, no, And it's hard. 938 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 6: And one thing Ray and I talked about off the 939 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 6: air was when you lose rounds four and five, right, 940 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 6: that's not ideal. And sometimes it paints a picture as 941 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 6: to the totality of the fight and people think, because yeah, 942 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 6: on one rounds four and five, that somehow he won 943 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 6: the fight, but he did not, and it's neither here 944 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 6: nor there, you know. One thing that I did call 945 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 6: Ray about was sort of to echo my surprise that 946 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 6: some high profile fighters were sort of coming at ALJO 947 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 6: in different ways, and I didn't quite understand the genesis 948 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 6: or the source of that venom. So I have to say, 949 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 6: you know, full transparency. It was nice to see Robert 950 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 6: Whitaker sort of publicly acknowledge and apologize to al Jo. 951 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 6: I guess, you know, because I just, you know, I 952 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 6: guess I can understand some of the ignorance that's out 953 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 6: there for al Jamine Sterling, and I'll deal with some 954 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 6: of it. But I guess when I'm seeing a lot 955 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 6: of other pro fighters, I was just like, I don't know, 956 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 6: it seemed kind of distasteful, and I'm glad that Whitaker 957 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 6: walked that back. I guess, you know. 958 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 2: Hey, look, I'm always been a Witiker fan. 959 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 9: I don't really follow social media on what so I 960 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 9: get filled in a lot with the stuff. I'm glad 961 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 9: he apologized too, but you know, it is what it is. 962 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 9: I think, you know, I don't. I don't really know Rob. 963 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 9: He just seems like a nice guy. I think I've 964 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 9: said a load to him a couple of times. But 965 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 9: I'm glad he apologize, and I hope he's not going 966 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 9: through something. 967 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 2: These guys get hitting ahead of a line. And I'm 968 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 2: not making this about CT. 969 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 9: I swear to go, but I'm just saying, like I 970 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 9: see it even in the gym, you know, sometimes you 971 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 9: go through a couple of mood swings. 972 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 2: Who knows, but I think. 973 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 9: If you watch that fight, you gotta be happy ful 974 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 9: Jamine Sterling after what happened in the first fight. Y. 975 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 7: You know, I remember when I fought in Boston. It 976 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 7: was against Gray Mayard. It was one of my one 977 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 7: of my worst performances, I felt like and I remember 978 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 7: after that fight and d Dana White said something in 979 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 7: regards to you know Kenny, Kenny's a choker or something 980 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 7: like that. And you know, whether it's true or not, 981 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 7: perception is reality. And he has such a powerful voice 982 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 7: that whatever he says, people are going to repeat and believe. 983 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,479 Speaker 7: He said that he believed that Yan won that fight 984 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 7: as as a coach, or maybe if you could talk 985 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 7: about Aljo's perspective on it, you're the champion of the 986 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 7: organization and and and the guy who's running the show 987 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 7: says he thought you lost the fight. 988 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that? 989 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 2: Well? 990 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 9: First of A, I like Dan He's running a business. 991 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 9: Though I don't really put a I mean, I listen 992 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 9: to him, but you know he's I think you got 993 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 9: to remember, for those guys, that's a numbers game, right, 994 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 9: and I don't think al Joe is the right numbers 995 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 9: guy for them, right. They they definitely, you know, they 996 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 9: they'll disagree. They they don't like him for whatever reason, 997 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 9: you know what I mean. They get behind people that 998 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 9: fit into whatever their business model is. 999 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 2: And as a business guy, I get that completely. 1000 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 4: So if he's the champ. 1001 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 7: But if he's the champ, you want to support the Yes, 1002 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 7: when you want to support the champ as opposed to 1003 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 7: downgrade the guy who's representing the number one but guy 1004 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 7: on the division, you know what I mean. 1005 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 9: But if you support the guy who you know's numbers 1006 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 9: aren't where you want them, that that might not help 1007 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 9: you in business. I think I don't. I always said, Look, 1008 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 9: I'd love to watch the first round with Dana just 1009 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 9: like this and see what he has to say. There's 1010 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 9: no way the guy won the round, right, And Dana 1011 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 9: likes action. Dana's an action guy. He likes guys banging. 1012 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 9: He's not gonna. I don't know what he's looking at. Then, 1013 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 9: I really don't, but I don't think I don't know 1014 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 9: what purpose it serves. Well, Look, Dana's Dana got to 1015 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 9: wird Dana Risbey because this is what he does. 1016 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 2: He's good at what he does. 1017 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 9: And do I agree with what he said? One hundred. No, 1018 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 9: But everybody who watches that tape back knows that, listen, 1019 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 9: this is the way it is. They know that Aljo 1020 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 9: won that fight before the decisions. 1021 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 4: Well, and I looked on face. 1022 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, the phraseology, he's left something to be desired. 1023 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 6: But again, I did this podcast without having watched it 1024 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 6: back and came on and said that I thought Pyotr YadA. 1025 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 4: One round one, it's all good. 1026 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 6: But I'm saying like, it's like Dana has an educated eye, right, 1027 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 6: and I don't care what necessarily people think about my eye. 1028 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 6: But yeah, maybe I got too caught up in like 1029 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 6: the forward motion, right. Okay, it's a singular round in MMA. 1030 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 6: Yes it's a high profile round, you know, but certainly 1031 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 6: Dana White and me were not the only ones who 1032 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 6: upon first glancing thought that y'all won the round. 1033 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 4: You know. 1034 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 6: But yes, you're right, watching it back before you step 1035 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 6: on a hot microphone obviously has value. But sometimes we're 1036 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 6: not afforded that, you know. 1037 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: You know what it's like. 1038 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 9: It's like, John, Look, when you go to trial for something, right, 1039 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 9: there's certain times you got to move that trial out 1040 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 9: of the county to where people aren't going to be biased. 1041 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 2: But what's happened. 1042 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 9: There was so much bias in this fight from the 1043 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 9: first fight that I believe. 1044 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 2: That this is the result of it. Right, It's just 1045 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 2: you're not going to get. 1046 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't dismiss that. I would not dismiss that. 1047 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. 1048 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 9: I'm just like, again, this is things that could ever 1049 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 9: be proved. I just think it's human nature. 1050 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,959 Speaker 6: Well, and I was crushed when Dana said that about 1051 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 6: Kenny back in the day because, as Joe Stevenson and 1052 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 6: Clay Waita can attest, those were huge, huge fights and 1053 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 6: huge spots in Kenny's career, fighting on the co main 1054 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 6: event under coteur Lesnar and just fucking ruining guy. So 1055 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 6: what choke guards you know, he didn't know? Fuck yeah, Chogard, 1056 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 6: you fucking show, you know, but ked spots that he 1057 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 6: emerged from the Flying Coach all. 1058 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 7: You know, It's like anything else, It's like we could 1059 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 7: we could spin it forward and maybe five ten years 1060 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 7: from now, you know, uh, that SoundBite from whoever that 1061 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 7: person is, you know, big or small, whatever, could could 1062 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 7: be the narrative of that fight, even though it's not 1063 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 7: true ten years from now. But yeah, al Joe won 1064 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 7: that fight. But if I remember correctly, Yan really won 1065 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 7: that fight. Uh, he was robbed and you're like, that's 1066 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 7: not the way it went down if you go and 1067 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 7: watch the fight. So again, sometimes one little narrative from 1068 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 7: an important voice, uh will kind of last a long 1069 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 7: time and paint a picture that is just not true. 1070 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 2: So right, okay, let me ask some John. 1071 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 9: Do you think that the brass in the UFC was 1072 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,240 Speaker 9: happy with blalswin? 1073 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 4: Huh? 1074 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 6: I probably not thrilled with the entertainment value. 1075 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 9: If you guys don't understand what's going on, there's no 1076 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 9: way that they like that fight. 1077 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: There's absolutely no way. There's no way. 1078 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 9: And the kid fort a fucking brilliant smart fight, but 1079 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 9: brilliant smart, brilliant smart fights is not what they want. 1080 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 4: But if. 1081 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 2: Against the Korean zombie just swinging for defenses, that's what 1082 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 2: fans like it is one of this man. 1083 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 9: Look, I like everybody, I don't get I don't really 1084 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 9: get caught up. And that's why I say, even like 1085 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 9: Robert Whitaker, he's in title to his opinion. 1086 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: I like her. 1087 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 9: I'm not gonna dislike him because he's he's talking like that. 1088 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 9: I'd love to talk to him. About it and see 1089 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,439 Speaker 9: exactly where everything's coming from. Just like with Dana, I'd 1090 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 9: love to sit there and go I'd love for me, 1091 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 9: him and Matt to sit down and watch that first 1092 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 9: round and that would be good TV because it would 1093 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 9: be fun. It would be fun. But I'd like to 1094 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 9: know how why he scored it like that. You can't 1095 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 9: just say the guy won a round. You got to 1096 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 9: come up with why he won the round. 1097 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 6: Bottom line, Raymond, You've got a lot of world titles, man, 1098 00:50:59,520 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 6: you know. 1099 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 2: You mean, I don't know, that's all it comes. 1100 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 7: Down at all for decades, you know, whatever it is. 1101 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 2: Look, I'm having a blast. 1102 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 9: I'm still having fun. The fact I even got emotional 1103 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 9: that second round just proves to me I'm still involved 1104 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 9: and emotionally invested in this ship, which is great for 1105 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 9: me because without that, I'm a zero. 1106 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 2: So it just, look, it's a good feeling. 1107 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 9: You know, when you're doing something, you always want to 1108 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 9: be the best of what you're doing. I think I look, 1109 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 9: I think I've done a great job with with just 1110 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 9: even being consistent staying the course in this field. I mean, 1111 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 9: I've been there since the beginning, you know, So I 1112 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 9: don't like to bullshit and come up with different terminologies. 1113 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,439 Speaker 9: You know, it is what it is, and I break 1114 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 9: it down to a street fight every time. That's what 1115 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 9: it is to me. It's just two guys going at it, 1116 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 9: and I knows psychologically what's going on. And that's why 1117 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 9: I try to just motivate these guys. You know the 1118 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 9: best I can. 1119 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 6: Well, you're the man we love you. Have a great 1120 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 6: rest of your Easter Sunday. So did you listen to 1121 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 6: the show back last week to know that I mentioned 1122 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 6: my Yon scorecard when you got off the cans or 1123 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 6: did someone alert you to that? 1124 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 2: Not not someone, everybody everybody in New York. I will walk. 1125 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 9: I telled us and John have I not said I 1126 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,720 Speaker 9: never want you to agree with me because we're friends. 1127 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 9: I said that I'm. 1128 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 6: Playing around like course, like I mean this. 1129 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 2: I mean so people we look we have fun with it. 1130 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 9: I think that's I think what you did to me 1131 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 9: when they told me, I couldn't stop laughing. 1132 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 2: I gotta have and look, even even. 1133 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 9: This kid, Brian Petrie, man don't have a you could 1134 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 9: pick against my fighters. I love what this guy does. 1135 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 9: I I don't want that. I you know, I've always 1136 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 9: been like that. 1137 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 2: I don't. I want you to disagree. 1138 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 9: And these arguments I like, I think they're fruitful, and 1139 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 9: I think, you know, we go on and we we 1140 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 9: we disagree and then we just move forward. Men and 1141 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 9: me and me and Rubinstein had a good time. I 1142 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 9: never even got that close to him before. I always 1143 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,959 Speaker 9: said a low to him. But now we had fun. 1144 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 9: He sent me a video of mcmaine and giving him 1145 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 9: my money. I mean, it's it. This is good stuff, man, 1146 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 9: It really is all around Danny. Danny was gracious and 1147 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 9: what happened and you know, say anything. We had a 1148 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 9: lot of laughs. You asked Mick Maine and it was 1149 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 9: it was a fun time and it really was. You know, 1150 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 9: wind lose a drawer. If you could look at it 1151 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 9: like that, I think you move on way better in 1152 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 9: your life. To imagine getting up every morning and you just. 1153 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,720 Speaker 2: Negativity and type into somebody you sunk it. What could 1154 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,919 Speaker 2: your day be like? John? What could your day be like? Ray? 1155 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 4: And John? 1156 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 7: You know, I also appreciate the fact that, you know, 1157 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 7: in a world where we love to disagree and people 1158 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 7: spit venom at each other and all that stuff, I 1159 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 7: think it's rare, especially in today's environment where someone uh say, 1160 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 7: got something maybe a different perspective, and they go back 1161 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 7: and they. 1162 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 4: Say, actually, you know what, I actually got that wrong. 1163 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 4: You're right, you know. 1164 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 7: And the fact that John was able to go back 1165 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 7: and watch that and go, wait a sec, yeah, I 1166 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 7: actually scored that for al Joe, you were right, you 1167 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 7: were absolutely right. I think it takes way more intelligence 1168 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 7: and way way more humility to go back watch it 1169 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 7: and go, actually, I did have it wrong and admit that. 1170 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 7: So I think that that is very much appreciated. 1171 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 4: Johnny. 1172 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,439 Speaker 9: Hey, hey, look, jud at the end of the day, 1173 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 9: whether you're a ref a judged the president of the company, 1174 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,399 Speaker 9: when you got as many pelts on the wall as 1175 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 9: we then come to it that time, Baby, it's all good, 1176 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 9: It's all love. 1177 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 2: Man. 1178 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 7: I can't. 1179 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 2: I'm just this is a great feeling. 1180 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 6: Well, and I would hope there wouldn't be like hundreds 1181 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 6: of rounds where I would turn. But I'm telling you 1182 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 6: right now, over eleven years, dozens of rounds that I 1183 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 6: would see differently. I'm sure watching it back, you know. 1184 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 6: I mean, and I think about how many times in 1185 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 6: the three hundred and fifty episode history of this show 1186 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 6: have we gone back and watched fights for purposes of 1187 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 6: this exercise. Right, we gotta go. I have a great Sunday. 1188 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 9: Much fass over to everybody out there. Man, love my minute. Man, 1189 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 9: thanks for supporting me while everybody's trying to shoot me down. 1190 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 2: It's all good baby. 1191 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 6: Those bullets right, take it easy, man, can't get me 1192 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 6: long ago minute. Every week here on the Anak and 1193 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 6: Florian Podcast. All right, we need to get to the 1194 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 6: pronunciation of the week because Big Gun Brian Petrie has 1195 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 6: been waiting for a long time. We call on our 1196 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,399 Speaker 6: producer here, Cody Marrown. I'll just say too in terms 1197 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 6: of you know, like it was brought to my attention 1198 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 6: the Big Gun, Brian Peatrie had some criticism about Domina 1199 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 6: Cruz's commentary. You know, like Domina Cruz is one of 1200 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 6: my best friends. Brian Peatree is increasingly becoming one of 1201 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 6: my dear friends. So but sometimes you just got to 1202 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 6: tell it like it is. And the Big Gun's going 1203 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:38,919 Speaker 6: to join us in a minute. 1204 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 4: Hi, Cody, Hello, how's it going. 1205 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 6: Remember the name, Remember the name, remember the show Bala Muhammad. 1206 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 6: Al Right, we got two pronunciations of the week. So 1207 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 6: first one, this is gonna be fun. Today is a 1208 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 6: bandam weaight who competes on the prelim portion of the 1209 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 6: card this week and he faces Cameron Else nickname Mongolian murderer. 1210 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 6: But Cody, we don't need the nickname. We need the 1211 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 6: the pronunciation on the fighter's name. So what do you 1212 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 6: have for us here? 1213 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 10: And is uh alrin chi lang right right, that's how 1214 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 10: he's gonna say it. 1215 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 4: You must have listened to the file before I knew it. 1216 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 13: Go ahead, my name is auer a Long Mongolia murderer. 1217 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 13: My name is our chi al Mongolia murderer, dude. 1218 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 6: So just a little lens into what we deal with 1219 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 6: Long I think it is. 1220 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 10: I feel you, Yeah, all we go fi allo, all right. 1221 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 6: So the second file, Kenny, we're playing because it's it's 1222 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 6: Brazilian Portuguese, and it's the name we come across a lot. Okay, 1223 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 6: it's Jessica Andrage, the former UFC straweight champion Jessica Androge 1224 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,280 Speaker 6: and you will hear here here. 1225 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 4: And you know Cody has. 1226 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 6: Been in relationships with Brazilian women, and so he's got 1227 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 6: his old fucking you know what this dude's got like 1228 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 6: Rio dejon Aio regionalisms down pat Now Ken Flow is 1229 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 6: semi fluent in Brazilian Portuguese. But the point is that 1230 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 6: whether you say andragi or androge, she says it two 1231 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 6: ways on the file. 1232 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 4: So I love her, But listen to the. 1233 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 7: File jessic Andraji, Jessica. 1234 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 6: Raj Andragi Andrage, So Kenny, WHI should we go with? 1235 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 2: Uh? 1236 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,919 Speaker 7: Both both are really correct? I mean androg, I would 1237 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 7: say androg. It really comes down to accent too. It's like, 1238 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 7: you know, if I if I'm from We've talked about 1239 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 7: this before from if I'm from Boston and you're learning 1240 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 7: how to say car and I say you got to 1241 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 7: get in the car, and they're like, well, I learned 1242 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 7: my English in Boston. 1243 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say, ka that you know what I mean? 1244 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 4: What what is it? What is what is the proper way? 1245 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 4: What is like the real way? 1246 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 2: You know? 1247 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 4: Uh? It should be caught. 1248 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 10: I think you're better than me, Kenny, just kid better? 1249 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 6: You say car found put the gas? 1250 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 2: Uh? 1251 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 6: So Cody, what would you say? What would you say for? Andrage? 1252 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 2: Code? 1253 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 9: All right? 1254 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 10: So yeah, Andre, Yeah, I mean come on you and 1255 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 10: long ago with the hair today huh? 1256 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 4: I mean, paw made. 1257 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 10: I travel three hours to Garden City to go to 1258 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 10: the same barber and then I don't train. 1259 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 4: Look at that hair. It's like a massive wave. Hey Cody. 1260 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 6: Before we get to Big Gun Brian Petrie, congrats on Balal. 1261 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 6: Just been a nice puff out your chest. Ten days 1262 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 6: for you with Al Joe and and Balal. You gotta 1263 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 6: feel pretty good. 1264 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, pretty good, pretty good. I'm gonna try and get 1265 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 10: my heart rate down, like it's sorry my blood pressures. 1266 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 10: But I don't know how James Kraus does. I tweeted this. 1267 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 10: I was like, I don't know how he does a 1268 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 10: week in and week out. He's literally in the corner 1269 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 10: watching his friends fight for money, Like, yeah, he. 1270 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 4: Should just set him a cot over there at the Apex. 1271 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 6: All right, he should? All right, time to make some 1272 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 6: picks on the main Event challenge. Our guys are hot, 1273 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 6: super hot. You guys hitting blow Muhammed at plus one 1274 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 6: fifty five. Let's get to the picks, as we call 1275 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 6: on Big Gun Brian Petrock. 1276 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: It's the main Event Challenge. 1277 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 6: The time is most fished, few everything possible to win. 1278 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: It's the main Event Challenge to John Hannick and Kenny Florian. 1279 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 6: Podcast MMA Podcast, wearing the sunglasses and a I'm just seeing. 1280 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 8: I'm just seeing the board so well, boys, my mom 1281 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 8: starting heard of Yeah, we take those off. 1282 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 4: For you guys. What's up? You are on fire? 1283 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 6: And if I could call on our outstanding intern Will 1284 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 6: Berger to update the standings. I lost my notes, right, 1285 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 6: I have a booklet here that says twenty twenty two 1286 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 6: main Event Challenge presented by DraftKings and uh, I lost 1287 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 6: my my tally. But you guys are on fire. You 1288 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 6: hit Blam muhammed. You had to feel pretty good about that, 1289 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 6: plus one fifty five hit. 1290 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 8: Oh oh yeah, I went twelve and two of my picks. 1291 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 3: Overall, it's still. 1292 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 8: My big parlay. But I hit Levitt, I hit Cowboy, 1293 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 8: I'm gonna Butcher's name. I hit the Law, and I 1294 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 8: hit the Law by decision. 1295 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 3: We're up a couple of unis. I'm feeling good. Yeah, 1296 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 3: we're seeing the board. 1297 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 6: Good here, babe, you've been hitting it really well for 1298 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 6: six weeks. Then you hit my point. Dominic Cruz with 1299 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 6: a tweet about his commentary. 1300 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 3: I listen. 1301 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 6: Uh. 1302 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 8: When I sent him my buddies like, hey, do you 1303 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 8: think John's gonna see that? I'm like no, but no, 1304 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 8: I listen. I've been following him man enough to know 1305 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 8: that Don CRUs will say he listen, He'll he'll throw 1306 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 8: shots at d C who's sitting right next to So 1307 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 8: I'm like, if I'm gonna throw a shot at anybody, 1308 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 8: and CRUs can handle it, and I just sometimes I 1309 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 8: feel like he's a little bit robotic and a little 1310 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 8: bit non energy, and you know, and everyone has their 1311 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 8: different tastes. People love Dom because listen to the guy 1312 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 8: knows everything about fighting. He can break the ins and outs. 1313 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 8: I like mine a little more, you know. I had 1314 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 8: a little spice to it a little bit, So that's 1315 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 8: all I meant by it. 1316 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,479 Speaker 4: But no, and it's all good, baby. 1317 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 6: And the person who brought it to my at thought 1318 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 6: the way you put it was funny, and that's why 1319 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 6: they brought it to my attention. Everybody is entitled to 1320 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 6: their opinion. So we have UFC lightweight Claudio pooh Yes 1321 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 6: waiting in the wings. So we're gonna have to rifle 1322 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 6: through some of these picks today because we kind of 1323 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 6: butchered the clock with long Goo. So I want to 1324 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 6: begin with what I think is an important fight here 1325 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 6: at flyweight, Manel cop minus one forty fighting Sue Mudargie 1326 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 6: who is plus one twenty cops won two in a row, 1327 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 6: was a backup for a championship fight in the UFC. 1328 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 6: He's number fourteen in the world right now. I think 1329 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 6: he's championship material. I'm less familiar with Sue Mudargie, but 1330 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 6: he is the one with the higher ranking, number twelve 1331 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 6: in the world. Brian Petree, who do you have here? 1332 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 6: And ultimately will you have action on the foot? 1333 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 1334 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm a huge menial coffin. I've been following his 1335 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 8: career since Risen days. The guy's record is impressive. He 1336 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 8: could be three in one UFC. I mean they threw 1337 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 8: him to the walls with Pantosia. I thought he'd beat 1338 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 8: Nikolau and then obviously he's on a two fight win 1339 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 8: streak now with explosive knockouts. The biggest problem with this 1340 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 8: guy was he just needs to go. 1341 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 3: He needs to go young. 1342 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,439 Speaker 8: Well, you need to get after it because his power's there, 1343 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 8: his techniques there. Early in his career he was afraid 1344 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 8: to get taken down. I think his takedown offenses is 1345 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 8: tightening up a little bit in his get up games 1346 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 8: getting pretty good. Subajar, He's gonna come in there and listen. 1347 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 8: You know he's a striker himself. He's on a three 1348 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 8: to one in the UFC. Before he came to the UFC, 1349 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 8: though he fought a couple Uber drivers. It looks like 1350 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 8: on his record, you know, five star of Uber Drivers 1351 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 8: with some Uber drivers on there, and Cop has I mean, 1352 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 8: he's fought the world class talent and I think this 1353 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 8: guy's gonna be fighting for one twenty five pounds strap. 1354 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 8: I like cop by Ko a lot of action on that. 1355 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 8: If I'm gonna have a money line, I'm having Ko 1356 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 8: as well. Give him my no cop all right. 1357 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 6: Men, l Cop minus won forty for Brian Petrie. On 1358 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 6: the other side, Subadargi's won three straight once a year 1359 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 6: though Cana Flow once in twenty nineteen, once in twenty 1360 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 6: twenty last win all the way back in January of 1361 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 6: twenty twenty one. Who do you like here, Flow? 1362 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I see it the same way. I see 1363 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 7: a lot of potential in Cop. I also like the 1364 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 7: fact that you know he's taking fights to get himself. 1365 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 7: It seems a little bit more comfortable in the UFC, 1366 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 7: and you know he had some killers, but I think 1367 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 7: he really is coming into his own and I think 1368 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 7: this is another fight for him to look good, uh 1369 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 7: and potentially fight for the belt in the future, and 1370 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 7: I definitely think that's possible. 1371 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 4: I like copy here as well. 1372 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 6: By the way, one of my buddies just like became 1373 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 6: an Uber driver just for a minute, just to see 1374 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 6: what it was like, right, and like all these kids 1375 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 6: were like fucking banging on him, like calling. 1376 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 4: Him a fucking loser. 1377 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 6: He's like, this isn't great for my ego, you know, 1378 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 6: like back to back nights, everybody like, what's your deal? 1379 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 4: Anyway? 1380 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 6: Old man. It's like listen, kid, fucking step out. The 1381 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 6: car puts you in a little fucking rear naked choke, 1382 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 6: you know. So because I was actually entertaining, you know, 1383 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 6: driving an Uber just out of pure curiosity, and now, uh, 1384 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 6: that kind of curved my enthusiasm, all right. Macy Barber 1385 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 6: Brian is minus one ninety against Montana de la Rosa 1386 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 6: plus one sixty. Fight was supposed to happen last December 1387 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 6: UFC two sixty nine. It shall be done this weekend. 1388 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 6: Which way you go? 1389 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 8: And kid too well experienced girls female fighters at one 1390 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 8: twenty five. I'm surprised they haven't crossed paths already before. 1391 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 8: They seem like they fought everyone one twenty five. I 1392 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 8: love Barber come on Contender series. Her confidence and her 1393 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 8: belief in herself was affectious. 1394 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 3: Blew out her knee in. 1395 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 8: The Roxy fight, huge favorite on the Rocky Fight, and 1396 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 8: then you know, come back off the knee surgery, lock 1397 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 8: get to put in there with a killer Alexa Grosso 1398 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 8: and then a really slimy decision over Marianda Maverick, which 1399 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 8: I think a lot of people maybe had it the 1400 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 8: other way. 1401 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 3: Regardless of that, I. 1402 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 8: Think Barbar is and still is the girl in this 1403 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 8: division that's gould eventually take over. 1404 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 3: She's twenty three years old. 1405 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 8: Every time we see her it could be a new 1406 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 8: fighter in there. I mean she's learning new skills every 1407 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 8: single day. I saw her on Instagram. She appears to 1408 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 8: be in fantastic shape. And Dela Rosa, she's solid everywhere, 1409 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 8: She's tough, she's durable. I think she's gonna have the 1410 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 8: grappling vantage because I don't think Macy likes being on 1411 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 8: the bottom. I think Macy likes being on top, being 1412 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 8: the hammer. But we talked about this on the podcast. 1413 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 8: Alike a lot. Excuse me, Barbara's got that nasty prick 1414 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 8: in her. She's fucking mean in there and I and 1415 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 8: for that, I like Barbara. I wish you could go 1416 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 8: with that plus money on Dela rose I just think 1417 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 8: barbarer is a more complete fighter. 1418 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 3: I think she's gonna win by decision. 1419 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 6: Barbara coming off has split over Miranda Maverick last July. 1420 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 6: De La Rossa knocked out Arianni Lipsky last June. That 1421 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 6: was one of her better performances. She is on rank 1422 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 6: right now, trying to take Macy Barber's number fourteen at 1423 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 6: the very least. Can flow how do you see a planet? 1424 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 7: I do think Dela Rosa can can post some problems 1425 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 7: for Barber, but I like Macy Barber here as well. 1426 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 7: I don't love her ability to manage distance so well. 1427 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 7: I think she's a little bit confused as to how 1428 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,439 Speaker 7: to enter, how to you know, kind of get things 1429 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 7: going early in a fight. Sometimes it takes her a 1430 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 7: little bit to get things going, and I think it's 1431 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 7: just her bridging that gap towards getting into striking range 1432 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 7: that she's still a little confused about. 1433 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 4: But she is. 1434 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 7: I think she still has a lot of potential, you know, 1435 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 7: as Brian said, she's still very young. She's figuring it out, 1436 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 7: and when she does, I think she could definitely pose 1437 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 7: a lot of problems. So but I think she's more athletic. 1438 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 7: I think she's going to be more effective on the 1439 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 7: feet than Dela Rosa. Dela Rosa's striking hasn't developed that much. 1440 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 7: I think think that Brian's correct on the ground that 1441 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 7: Dela Rosa would probably have an advantage there if she's 1442 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 7: able to get on top. I think that would probably 1443 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 7: be the case. But I like Barbara here. I think 1444 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 7: she wins the when's the fighting on the judge scorecards? 1445 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 2: All right? 1446 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 6: Kemp Fell likes Macy barber by decision that moves us 1447 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 6: to a feature about it. 1448 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 4: Heavyweight. 1449 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 6: I did not look up the pronunciation of Alexander Romanov, 1450 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 6: so if it's Romanov, I apologize, but we'll go Romanov 1451 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 6: minus five to ten, big price here against Tanner the bulldozer, Boser, 1452 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 6: who is plus three seventy five the Maldoven getting that 1453 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 6: five to one. Respect Brian, maybe because he's fifteen and 1454 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 6: oh four and oh in the UFC with as many finishes. 1455 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,000 Speaker 6: On the other side, Boser highly tout had been a 1456 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 6: little bit up and down. Has the Canadian been coming 1457 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 6: off a knockout of Open Saint Prux and the only 1458 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 6: man to finish Boser in his career the late Tim 1459 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 6: Tim Haig back in twenty fifteen. So Bose are pretty tough. 1460 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 6: What do you think he has for Romanov? 1461 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 4: Here, Brian big boy action. 1462 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 8: I've actually told I resemble Romanov a little bit, you know. 1463 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 8: I think I got a little more kindness in my 1464 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 8: eyes than Romanoff. He's a machine. He's a killer, but 1465 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 8: I've been it were relatively the same size. But Romanov 1466 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 8: is a machine. Slam beat repeat, that's that guy's motto, 1467 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 8: A stand up to a little choppy. I think his 1468 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 8: takedowns are okay, but he's just so physically strong that 1469 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 8: he gets away with it. And then as Cardio, I 1470 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 8: think is still questionab while you go back to that 1471 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 8: one Espasino fight, he was fading, got hitting the nuts 1472 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 8: and then they called it. 1473 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 3: Then we got Bowser. He's got that sweet Kentucky. 1474 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 8: Water fall on top of his head, a gorgeous mullet, 1475 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 8: and he is a complete different, different fighter than Romanov. 1476 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 8: He is quick, elusive, moves his feet in and out, 1477 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 8: doesn't want to fight to get the ground. And the 1478 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 8: thing with Boser is when he's fought really good competition 1479 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 8: minus osp which I think might be one of his 1480 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 8: best wins. Uh Arlosky gone on Latifi. He's falling short, 1481 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 8: and Latifi, who is a good wrestler who was strong, 1482 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 8: he's big, took him down quite quite easily. It was 1483 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 8: a split decision. I Lativa in that fight, but it 1484 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 8: was so close. Bozer got up pretty well but still 1485 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 8: got taken down a lot. Rolling off A bigger guy 1486 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 8: wants to get you down once the pounds. Yeah, this 1487 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 8: guy has three forearm choke submissions. That's gotta be a record. 1488 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 8: He shoves his big form in your throat and you 1489 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 8: go to sleep. That's insane. Now the numbers absurd right 1490 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 8: this again, this is heavyweights. Anything can happen. And I 1491 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 8: thought I learned my lesson when Blaze burned me because 1492 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 8: I took Daucus when I was a huge number, and 1493 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 8: I don't want to make that same mistake again. But 1494 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 8: I'm going to because I'm stupid. Give me Boser. I 1495 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 8: think he can. I think if you can withstand some 1496 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 8: of the takedowns late, he can maybe get a TK. 1497 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 8: If Romanov just completely gases you're giving me a gorgeous 1498 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 8: number of plus two seventy five. 1499 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 3: I'm taking it, and. 1500 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 6: Our scoring system makes a lot of sense. Ken Flow, 1501 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 6: what do you think about the feature about it heavyweight? 1502 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 7: I think there's no question that there is some good 1503 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 7: value on Boser. I you know, when I go back 1504 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 7: to the Latif fight, as Brian mentioned that, that's the 1505 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 7: one that kind of gets me worried about what could 1506 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 7: potentially happen. 1507 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 4: I think Romanov has a. 1508 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 7: Lot of offensive firepower when he gets you on your back, 1509 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 7: you know, not only the chow oh, but his grounder 1510 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 7: pound I think is absolutely brutal, and I think Boser, 1511 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 7: you know, could really be exposed there. Totally get get 1512 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 7: that pick for Boser. I'm gonna go with Romanov. I 1513 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 7: think his wrestling will get it done. I think things 1514 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,719 Speaker 7: will get interesting in the third round if it gets 1515 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 7: there for Boser, because I do think he's got the 1516 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 7: power to put Romanov out. 1517 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 4: But let's go Romanov, all right. Co main event more 1518 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 4: on that coming up. 1519 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 6: It'll be Clay gweed a minus one fifty versus Claudi 1520 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 6: O pooh, Yes, who is plus one fifteen? Who's going 1521 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 6: to join us here in a few minutes. So we 1522 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,720 Speaker 6: are not going to pick that fight and make the 1523 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 6: man weight, but we will need a main event. Pick 1524 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 6: Bri before we get you on out of here. Jessica 1525 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 6: onraj minus one seventy, Amanda Lemos plus one fifty A 1526 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,920 Speaker 6: little backdrop for you, Lemos eleven and one. She's never 1527 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,640 Speaker 6: lost in the weight class. Right dropped her debut in 1528 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,759 Speaker 6: the UFC to Leslie Smith. That was up two divisions 1529 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,759 Speaker 6: at Banham weight. Now five straight wins, she has vaulted 1530 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 6: to number ten of the world at one hundred and 1531 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 6: fifteen pounds. She faces the former champion andrage back in 1532 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 6: the weight class, Petrie, who do you have? 1533 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 8: I know Claudia is waiting and and I appreciate it, 1534 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 8: but I'm taking him u er Clay Gueda. By the way, 1535 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,680 Speaker 8: that's not a Homer pick. Let's go Claudia. I love 1536 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 8: h Jessica androge like, can we take a minute? How 1537 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 8: bad ass this girl is? I mean, geez, she is 1538 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 8: a stud one thirty five, fifteen, doesn't matter. She'll fight anybody. 1539 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 8: She's usually the most exciting fight on the card whoever 1540 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,560 Speaker 8: she fights. The only time she disappointed me was the 1541 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,840 Speaker 8: Valentino fight. Right, she kind of kind of froze a 1542 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 8: little bit, and I think Valentine has got that Anderson 1543 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 8: Silvil prime peak mystique where sometimes they beat fighters before 1544 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,080 Speaker 8: they get in there. 1545 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 3: That wasn't the justcon drags we know. 1546 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 8: And what's crazy is on drops she was like she's 1547 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 8: been around forever, former champion, She's fought for her title 1548 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 8: a few times. She's younger by four years to Domaino Lemos, 1549 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 8: which is I think a telling gear. Lemos beasts her 1550 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 8: own right, big power in her hands, like to stay 1551 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,599 Speaker 8: on the outside. 1552 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 3: The Angela Hill fight, I thought was very interesting. 1553 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 8: You know, Angela Hill's a badass herself, brought the best 1554 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 8: at a Lemos. They both get you know, gave it 1555 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 8: all and it was a split decision. But I keep 1556 01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 8: going back to the Leslie Smith night. Yes it was 1557 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 8: fire years ago, Yes it was up to weight classes, 1558 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 8: but that was just someone bully balling her in the 1559 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 8: clinch with some elbows and she didn't like it. Enter onrage. 1560 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 8: Who is gonna be a bully ball in there? She's 1561 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 8: built like a fire hydrant. I think she needs to 1562 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,080 Speaker 8: mix up her striking with her with her where their 1563 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 8: takedowns or slams, and I think she's gonna be good. 1564 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,759 Speaker 3: The one fight to keep going back. 1565 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 8: To Androge was that third round fight, or excuse me, 1566 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 8: the second fight with Rose where it was a split decision. 1567 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 8: But that third round Androge was slowing down, she was 1568 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 8: walking through the fire and it became close. And Rose 1569 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 8: is the top of the top, and I think that's 1570 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 8: gonna be a play a big thing here. This is 1571 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 8: five rounds. I don't think Androje is stopping. She's back 1572 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 8: at one fifteen here, so she has to make sure 1573 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,719 Speaker 8: her weight cuts right. I like Androge by decision here. 1574 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 6: I thought Androge won that fight. Your reference against Rose 1575 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 6: Nami yunis that third round was absurd. Yeah, so two 1576 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 6: and one run can't flow for Andraje at flyweight Lol. 1577 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 6: Lost there, of course to Valentina chef Chanko. Now back 1578 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 6: in what is ubiqulously regarded as her best division. Your 1579 01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 6: thoughts on her here about a two to one favorite 1580 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,560 Speaker 6: against lem Boy. 1581 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,720 Speaker 7: I think this is a tough one. I think Lemos 1582 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 7: is easily the better striker. I love her ability to 1583 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 7: read opponents. She has a lot of sophisticated baits and 1584 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:17,679 Speaker 7: traps that she uses on the feet. You know, grappling wise, 1585 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 7: wrestling wise. I think she has some stuff the top 1586 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,559 Speaker 7: to stop Androge's takedowns, but over time, I think it's 1587 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 7: gonna be extremely difficult. I think if Lamos gets it 1588 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,799 Speaker 7: done here, I think she needs to get it done early. 1589 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 7: I think there's some value on her though I'm a fan. 1590 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 7: I think Androge is always going to be a problem 1591 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,240 Speaker 7: with her takedowns and ability to control. 1592 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,439 Speaker 4: But Lemos isn't isn't too shabby on. 1593 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 7: The on the ground either. But it's either going to 1594 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 7: be a decision by Androge or some kind of finished 1595 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,479 Speaker 7: by Lemos. But I'll take I'll take the gamble here 1596 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 7: on Lemos. I see some value here. 1597 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 6: Kempel feel a little bit frisky out on Easter Sunday. 1598 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 6: If you want more from Brian Petrie, Mma Takes podcast 1599 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 6: BP Always great to see your shining face. 1600 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,640 Speaker 4: Yes, a little something in the mail for you, uh 1601 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 4: before we let you go? 1602 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 8: Yes, Kenny pfl this Wednesday, right yeah, boy Dom Mag's 1603 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 8: fighting is an underdog right now. This canna be another 1604 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 8: free pick for you boys right there. I like him 1605 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 8: out the underdog spots about plus one twenty right now, 1606 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 8: he's a guy. Kill it Kenny. That's it boys, Thank 1607 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,759 Speaker 8: you sir. 1608 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 6: You're the man. 1609 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 4: Happy Easter. 1610 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 6: We'll have more time next week and obviously looking ahead 1611 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 6: to Rob Fonton Cheeto vera great stuff as always, buddy, 1612 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 6: we'll talk to you soon. 1613 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 3: I'll see you boys. 1614 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:31,960 Speaker 6: There he is Brian Petree with us on the anak 1615 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,759 Speaker 6: Emplorian Podcast and we go right back to the guest line. Now, 1616 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 6: just six days before he takes part in the co 1617 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 6: main event of UFC Fight Night against Clay Guida. How 1618 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 6: handsome is this guy? By the way, yesc lightweight contender 1619 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 6: Claudio el Nino Poor. Yes, great to see you, my man. 1620 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 6: We apologize for the wait. How's your fight week going. 1621 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 4: My man? Where are you right now? Are you still 1622 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 4: in Florida? 1623 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 12: Yeah? 1624 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,760 Speaker 11: What's up John? I'm Kenny, guys, I'm in Florida. Yes, 1625 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 11: I'm my apartment right now. I'll be leaving on Tuesday 1626 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 11: or Vegas. 1627 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:02,439 Speaker 4: Well, it's great to see you. 1628 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:02,640 Speaker 2: So. 1629 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,719 Speaker 6: How long have you been in Florida at Sandford MMA. 1630 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 11: It's been a little over a year now, like a 1631 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,560 Speaker 11: year and two months, and it's been it's been a 1632 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,799 Speaker 11: great time here. I enjoy living down in South Florida. 1633 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 11: It's pretty good, very different than Peru, and the training 1634 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 11: environment for me is the main thing, the main thing 1635 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 11: that made me move here. 1636 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 6: You know, Canflow's got a lot of Peruvian blood, So 1637 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 6: I feel like Kenny I should just sort of back 1638 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 6: out and let you guys do your thing. But obviously 1639 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,599 Speaker 6: he's got a lot of momentum and fighting your former 1640 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 6: opponent Clay Greedy this weekend. 1641 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, Caudia, what has been the big difference in you 1642 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:38,520 Speaker 7: moving to Florida. 1643 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 4: How has it changed your game? 1644 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 3: You think? 1645 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,599 Speaker 11: I feel like I'm finally leaving the life of an 1646 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 11: athlete like I should have. In Peru, was very hard 1647 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:54,560 Speaker 11: to stay to be consistent. Oh sorry, guys, something popped up. Okay. 1648 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 12: In Peru was very. 1649 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 11: Hard to be consistent as an athlete. I had like well, 1650 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 11: I had some injuries in the past. But also then 1651 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 11: COVID came and they closed close us down. Like I 1652 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,600 Speaker 11: was like stuck in my apartment. It's just too many distractions. 1653 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,799 Speaker 11: At the time, I saw all the I saw Samford, 1654 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,479 Speaker 11: m I mate here, all the stuff that was going 1655 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 11: on here, and I was like, I need to be there. 1656 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 11: I had lived here before in Miami when I was 1657 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 11: a young kid, and so I kind of knew the 1658 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 11: place around. Uh, I just needed to move a little 1659 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 11: more north, and yeah, I came, and I think it 1660 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 11: was a great move for me. 1661 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 3: Fait me. 1662 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 7: Well, you're you're fighting claik Weed to a guy that 1663 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 7: I fought all the way back back in the day. 1664 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 7: It's amazing that he's still fighting at this point and 1665 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 7: he's still pretty dangerous. You know, how do you break 1666 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,439 Speaker 7: down claik Weed to as a fighter at this stage 1667 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 7: of his career? 1668 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 11: So yeah, I see, I see that nice picture you 1669 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:51,719 Speaker 11: got behind you. 1670 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 4: Yeah that's right. 1671 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, I hope I can mind the same like that. 1672 01:15:59,000 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 4: You'll probably get his name. 1673 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 11: But whatever whatever I can get, I'll be happy. I 1674 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 11: think I think it's gonna be a good fight. When 1675 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 11: they offered me, I didn't hesitate on taking the fight. 1676 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 11: I thought I was gonna get something different, Like I 1677 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,800 Speaker 11: didn't expect to get like a Hall of Famer, So 1678 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 11: I was pretty happy. I thought, maybe like someone closer 1679 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 11: to the ranking. But I don't even know where he's 1680 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 11: at right now. I don't know where I'm at right now. 1681 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 11: But I'm not gonna go in. 1682 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 12: There and do my job. Like I'm very prepared for this. 1683 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 11: I've been waiting for for a good opportunity for years, 1684 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 11: for me, for the proven people, the Proven MMA community. 1685 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 11: I feel they needed a big fight like this, like 1686 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 11: we all needed like someone to represent us, and I'm 1687 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,680 Speaker 11: I'm happy to be the man. 1688 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 4: You are the man. 1689 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:54,479 Speaker 6: So how long have you been fluent in English? 1690 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 12: I don't know, like all my life, I think. 1691 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, so obviously you spent some time your formative years 1692 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 6: in Miami. But you know, I watched your post fight 1693 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 6: press conference this morning after your win over Chris Gritzmacher, 1694 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 6: and you know, no interpreter needed. You know, you could 1695 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 6: barely tell English is your second language, and in terms 1696 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:15,680 Speaker 6: of resonating with an audience around the world, you know, 1697 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 6: you open up a lot of opportunities for yourself because 1698 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,080 Speaker 6: you've sort of embraced that. 1699 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:19,760 Speaker 2: You know. 1700 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 6: So good on you. 1701 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,040 Speaker 12: Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. Yeah. 1702 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 11: I went to a school where they English was basically 1703 01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 11: the first language, like when I was like six or seven, 1704 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 11: and then I moved here when I was fourteen. So 1705 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 11: between those two things, I learned pretty well, I will say, 1706 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,839 Speaker 11: speaking like fluently. 1707 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 6: So Claudio Puyees joining us here on the Aniconploring podcast. 1708 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,280 Speaker 6: So in any other division. Four straight wins, you probably 1709 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,280 Speaker 6: have a number next to your name, but obviously at lightweight. 1710 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 6: Despite the fact that it was a big twenty twenty 1711 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 6: one for you, no ranking yet, so big win last December. 1712 01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,559 Speaker 6: Obviously you prioritize a finish. You were able to get 1713 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 6: another finish. When you went back and watch that fight, 1714 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,400 Speaker 6: I'd imagine you've done that. How did you assess your 1715 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 6: last performance in the octagon. 1716 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 11: So I think I shut down Chris's game because he's 1717 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 11: very relentless, especially in the later rounds. I knew he 1718 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 11: was gonna be hard to stop if I didn't finish 1719 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 11: him early. But I also knew he was hard to 1720 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 11: finish earlier as well, So it was a tough match. 1721 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 11: But I think I shot him down good. Whenever he 1722 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,040 Speaker 11: was growing momentum, I just like cleanch him up or 1723 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,200 Speaker 11: did something to stop him. I still think I had 1724 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 11: a couple of mistakes. I did some things wrong in 1725 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 11: a fight, which I already correct I already got it better, 1726 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 11: and I'm a better fighter now than I was a 1727 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 11: year ago. Like when I first came back on twenty 1728 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 11: twenty one, it was hard. I have been almost in 1729 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,680 Speaker 11: the cage almost in like two years. It was my 1730 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,160 Speaker 11: first training camp in Sanford outside of the RUE. And 1731 01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,679 Speaker 11: I still want my fight against an undefeated fighter in 1732 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,599 Speaker 11: in Jordan Leavid, which he won yesterday night. 1733 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:04,160 Speaker 3: Yep. 1734 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,679 Speaker 11: But I just feel like I'm like levels ahead today, 1735 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,000 Speaker 11: Like I'm I'm way better than I was ten months ago. 1736 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,600 Speaker 6: And who are the primary training partners? I mean, I 1737 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 6: know the coaching staff pretty well, but who are the 1738 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 6: bodies that you're relying on down here? 1739 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,799 Speaker 11: I get I get this question ask a lot because 1740 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 11: like people know how how many good training partners you 1741 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,960 Speaker 11: have in Sanford? So it's an interesting question. Well, for 1742 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,280 Speaker 11: this camp, I've been training a lot with Nick Lentz 1743 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 11: is his coach, but uh, but he's very good. 1744 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 12: He's very good. 1745 01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,519 Speaker 11: He he moves very well, he makes it, he makeses 1746 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,000 Speaker 11: up the game. I've also been training a lot with 1747 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 11: Jared Gordon, he fights next weekend. He's a pretty good 1748 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 11: partner as well. They're kind of they're gonna seen hid 1749 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 11: As play and they come forward a lot those two. 1750 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 11: So yeah, yeah, I've been using them a lot. I Mean, 1751 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,840 Speaker 11: I've friend with a lot more people, but I feel 1752 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,960 Speaker 11: like those two were the guys I've been like thinking 1753 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 11: they could kind of push me, like like my opponent. 1754 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:08,200 Speaker 2: Is going to do. 1755 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,760 Speaker 6: So you win that fight last December, like do you 1756 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 6: go back to Peru? Like how are you navigating that 1757 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 6: part of your life or did you stay in Florida 1758 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 6: and just keep with it? 1759 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:19,519 Speaker 12: I didn't. I didn't. 1760 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 11: I'm going after this fight, Okay. I'm looking very forward 1761 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,519 Speaker 11: to it. I have some some new things there that 1762 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 11: are like new sponsors, like a lot of stuff that 1763 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 11: I want to go back and like I do. I 1764 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 11: want to be seeing my family as well. I think 1765 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,479 Speaker 11: it's like the longest I've ever been far from Peru, 1766 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 11: like the longest time in a while since I was 1767 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,639 Speaker 11: a kid and I came to Miami spent a long time. 1768 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,080 Speaker 6: Well that's great. Well, we wish you all the best 1769 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 6: before I let you go. Your twenty sixth birthday is Thursday? 1770 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,400 Speaker 6: Is that right? Yes, So you're going to be cutting 1771 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 6: not cake, You're going to be cutting wait Thursday night. Right? 1772 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,280 Speaker 12: The wars like the day before Waynes. For me, it's 1773 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 12: like the war's a like yeah, Waynes is. 1774 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:05,920 Speaker 11: Good because I'm actually gonna get to eat. 1775 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:06,439 Speaker 12: So I'm happy. 1776 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 11: I'm looking forward to that day. But the day before 1777 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,200 Speaker 11: Waynes is the worst one. And well, you know when 1778 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,080 Speaker 11: I said when I accepted the fight, I knew I 1779 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,200 Speaker 11: was like I wanted to fight one more time, being 1780 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 11: twenty five, but mind like you know, like I'm gonna 1781 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 11: get this sick fight and I'm gonna get ranked. I'm 1782 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,679 Speaker 11: gonna get a finish and it'll be all worth it. 1783 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 6: Well, it's amazing to see where you've come from the 1784 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 6: Ultimate Fighter Latin America to have this UFC winning streak 1785 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,639 Speaker 6: and certainly put in Peru on the map. We wish 1786 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,760 Speaker 6: you all the best with the showcase this weekend and 1787 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 6: shaping up as a big twenty twenty two for Claudio Pooh. 1788 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,639 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for joining us, my man, and. 1789 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 12: We will see, yes of course, in the fight. 1790 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 6: I am not gonna be in Vegas this weekend, unfortunately. 1791 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:47,599 Speaker 6: I know. 1792 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 4: I'm I'm bummed. 1793 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,160 Speaker 6: You know, when they call my number, I show up. 1794 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 6: But they didn't call my number this week, So. 1795 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 12: All right, John. 1796 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 11: One one question for Kenny, like I always wanted to know, 1797 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 11: how's here? Can you tell me a little bit about 1798 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,880 Speaker 11: your Approuvian part. 1799 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. 1800 01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, So my dad grew up in Chiklio and my 1801 01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,640 Speaker 7: mom from Lima. So both my parents are from Peru 1802 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:15,320 Speaker 7: and uh I've been I guess three four times over 1803 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:16,439 Speaker 7: the course of my my life. 1804 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 4: Haven't been able to go recently. But yeah, so. 1805 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,920 Speaker 11: Oh wow both your parents that's great. I don't know 1806 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 11: your mom or your dad. Wow, but you were born 1807 01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:27,919 Speaker 11: in Boston. 1808 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 4: I was born in Boston. 1809 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:34,719 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, so yeah, man, I've been I've been loving 1810 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 7: what you've been doing, man and super proud and I 1811 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,599 Speaker 7: can't wait to see you, uh get get the fight 1812 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,880 Speaker 7: and get the win against Clay. 1813 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,760 Speaker 12: Thank you think. I know I'm gonna represent very well. 1814 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 11: I like faith, but it's my fight, is my time, 1815 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,800 Speaker 11: like you know, like I'm not gonna go in there 1816 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,880 Speaker 11: to like try stuff. I'm gonna go in there to win. 1817 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:59,679 Speaker 6: Like yeah, Ken flows like a legitimate Peruvian you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1818 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:00,800 Speaker 6: he's legit. 1819 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:01,800 Speaker 4: He's legit. 1820 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 6: He's gonna get the Pero flag tattooed on his body 1821 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 6: if you win the USC Championship. So you win the 1822 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 6: UFC lightweight title, he's getting the tattoos. So hey, real 1823 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,760 Speaker 6: quick before I let you go, Charles Olivera Justin Gaetchee. 1824 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,600 Speaker 6: Obviously the belt in your division is going to be 1825 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 6: on the line here in a couple of weeks. You 1826 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 6: think you think Charles remains the champer, you think Justin 1827 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 6: gets it done. 1828 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:26,679 Speaker 11: I think he remains a champ even even though Justin 1829 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,920 Speaker 11: is a very like I think one of his office 1830 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 11: like match ups if he if they stay on the feed. 1831 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,160 Speaker 11: But I think he'll eventually like get to the grappling 1832 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,519 Speaker 11: and tokim out. He's he's very good today, like he's 1833 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,759 Speaker 11: at a he's a he's at a very high level today. 1834 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,800 Speaker 6: All right, you can watch UFC Light Way Claudio pooh 1835 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 6: Yes live on ESPN Plus this weekend in the comin 1836 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 6: event against Clay Guida. Appreciate your time, my man, and 1837 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 6: uh we will be watching live this Saturday night. Have 1838 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 6: a great fight. 1839 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:52,040 Speaker 12: Thank you, guys. 1840 01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 6: There is Claudio pooh Yes el Nino with us here 1841 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,680 Speaker 6: on the Anak and Florian podcast. Kenny's not going to 1842 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 6: get that tattoo, folks. I feel like I said it 1843 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 6: so I should probably get the tattoo. Seems a little much, 1844 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,640 Speaker 6: you know, I got. I feel like I have to 1845 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,120 Speaker 6: get the Brazilian flag tattoo before the Peruvian one. But 1846 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 6: I guess if Cloudio pools Wednesday, UFC lightweight title. We'll 1847 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,040 Speaker 6: figure out a way to get some Peruvian tattoo. 1848 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 7: I tell you he's a talented kid man. He's got 1849 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,839 Speaker 7: hard for days and it seems like he's very invested 1850 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:22,240 Speaker 7: in the game. 1851 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do 1852 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:24,439 Speaker 4: in the UFC. 1853 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,280 Speaker 6: And I'm being told by our great man Kota Cruz, 1854 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,280 Speaker 6: who helped us coordinate with Claudio PUOs, that El Nino 1855 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,000 Speaker 6: was the early gimmick. It's now the Prince of Perus 1856 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:38,160 Speaker 6: can change the nickname. Paging UFC researcher Tom GERBASI have 1857 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,080 Speaker 6: him and now Kota effect change. Have him be announced 1858 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 6: as the Prince of Peru Claudio Pooh. Yes, and it 1859 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,240 Speaker 6: shouldn't be Claudio the Prince of Peru pooh yes. Nickname 1860 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,680 Speaker 6: on the front end. We ain't fucking around here, the 1861 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,120 Speaker 6: iron log all founder right, the Prince of Peru Claudio Yes. 1862 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 6: Taking on Clay Gweed to this weekend, all right? Remember 1863 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 6: the show with Ballah Muhammad coming up Thursday night. The 1864 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,880 Speaker 6: celebration is officially on for those guys. If you want 1865 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:06,320 Speaker 6: the merchandise, Annik Florian podcast dot com. Do we get 1866 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 6: a promo code from our guy Cody Maybe we'll get one. 1867 01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 4: Do we have a Merrow seconds today? 1868 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,160 Speaker 6: Is Cody gonna chime on and tell us what we 1869 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,720 Speaker 6: missed for the fourth consecutive week, or is he ill 1870 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 6: prepared with his let its going out prepared? 1871 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 4: Ramn ill prepared. It's time for the Merrow styles. 1872 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,599 Speaker 6: One more sleep merch by the way at millions dot 1873 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:31,280 Speaker 6: Co promo code Annik two for ten percent off Kenny 1874 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 6: Florian Martial Arts dot Com. Balah Muhammad is gonna go 1875 01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:37,679 Speaker 6: buy the jiu Jitsu class. 1876 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 9: I'm just kidding. 1877 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,120 Speaker 6: People can't take a joke, you know, Will Berger, our intern, 1878 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 6: You're the fucking man. We gotta thank you before we 1879 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,880 Speaker 6: get out of here. All right, mero, what do we miss? 1880 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:47,800 Speaker 4: My man? Oh? 1881 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 6: FAM fifteen Anti Floran podcast dot com fifteen percent off 1882 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,920 Speaker 6: your entire Rota FAM fifteen is the. 1883 01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 4: Promo code Antic Florin podcast dot com. 1884 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,559 Speaker 10: Cody, what do you have called long Go two? If 1885 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,480 Speaker 10: you're privy, it's the same discount. 1886 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 4: But long ago, just Loo just long ago? All right, 1887 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:04,400 Speaker 4: yous Fam fifteen? 1888 01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,760 Speaker 6: Though, I mean, we don't need the metrics telling us 1889 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 6: that everybody's buying mr. 1890 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,600 Speaker 10: So that pfl event that Bryan Peach brought up is 1891 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,519 Speaker 10: on four twenty, so might need to reminder everyone to 1892 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 10: set your clocks. 1893 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,599 Speaker 4: In the broadcast, I might sound. I'm sounded, but I'm 1894 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,559 Speaker 4: gonna go. So consider the snoop cast. 1895 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 10: I have the Whiz Khalifa cast right, because he's like 1896 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:31,759 Speaker 10: Brandon him and Marshawn stoned as hell like that awesome. 1897 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,960 Speaker 6: I would watch that Whiz Khalifa is bong Is is unbelievable. 1898 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:36,719 Speaker 6: Next level. 1899 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,639 Speaker 10: So the Jeremy little Heathen Stevens is headlining that, right, 1900 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:45,200 Speaker 10: He's the headliner? Yes, yeah, so John, He's facing Clay Collared, 1901 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,040 Speaker 10: so both former UFC fighters. 1902 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 6: Correct, you know how Boston say called college like that? 1903 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,360 Speaker 4: Do you think the odds here? 1904 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:54,719 Speaker 3: Kid? 1905 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 4: What do you think the odds are collared in Stevens? 1906 01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:58,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1907 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 6: Ah, go h Clay Collared minus one fifty Jeremy Stevens 1908 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:03,960 Speaker 6: plus one twenty. 1909 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,560 Speaker 10: Colored minus one twenty five minus one of five. He 1910 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,840 Speaker 10: get some value there, Yes, interesting, So. 1911 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 4: Hudo back in the USADA pool. 1912 01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 10: That means he's eligible to fight in October. So it's 1913 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,599 Speaker 10: setting up some stuff that has yet to say. Who 1914 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 10: he wants to fight, what weight class, kind of all 1915 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 10: up in the air. He's training with John Jones. I 1916 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,960 Speaker 10: don't think he's gonna go that high, but. 1917 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 6: Ha, he is not going to get the Volkanovsky fight. 1918 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:27,799 Speaker 4: I wouldn't believe. 1919 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 6: Sorry to the Captain Eric Albata scene if you don't 1920 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,839 Speaker 6: like that noise, But I don't know that he's gonna 1921 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,559 Speaker 6: jump the Q at featherweight. Can't flow, but uh, it's 1922 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,000 Speaker 6: exciting to happen back, you know, as he attempts to 1923 01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,280 Speaker 6: eventually become the artist known as C four. 1924 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,479 Speaker 7: Dude, he's a beast man and again I think, uh, 1925 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,400 Speaker 7: I think he's he's done great things as a coach 1926 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 7: as well. 1927 01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 4: So uh, clearly you know a gifted athlete, that is 1928 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,320 Speaker 4: for sure. Yeah, but good good head on that on 1929 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,840 Speaker 4: those shoulders. Huh can flow back in the USADA pool 1930 01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 4: for fun? Never left? 1931 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:01,680 Speaker 6: How fucking clean he is? 1932 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,920 Speaker 4: Never left? That next title shot? Oh my god, Oh 1933 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 4: my goodness. 1934 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,599 Speaker 10: Cody, do you have any so the last thing I'm 1935 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,720 Speaker 10: gonna have you guys, guess two odds for the May 1936 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,320 Speaker 10: seventh pay per view. All right, Rose versus Carla? What 1937 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,559 Speaker 10: do you think that currently is sitting out on driving. 1938 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 6: Sportsbook minus three twenty plus two sixty Oh not even close, Kenny, 1939 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 6: No idea. 1940 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,920 Speaker 10: It's far closer than you think. Rose minus one seventy 1941 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:32,760 Speaker 10: Carla plus one fifteen. Wow, yeah, some serious value to me. 1942 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 6: You can get me in trouble with predictive language like this, Cody, right, 1943 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,720 Speaker 6: because now you should. I am on the record as 1944 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,759 Speaker 6: saying that I feel like Rose should be a bigger 1945 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 6: favorite than she is against Carla. I'm just saying, do 1946 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,080 Speaker 6: you know what Kenny Flooran's record was when he made 1947 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 6: his UFC debut? 1948 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 4: Anybody do you know? Do you know? I don't know, Kenny? 1949 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,320 Speaker 4: Do you know I don't even know what three and 1950 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:54,840 Speaker 4: one two and one two? 1951 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 6: If I'm not I's got on your Wikipedia page today 1952 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,160 Speaker 6: to find out exactly when you fought Clay waited to 1953 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,840 Speaker 6: see if our man Poohyes, actually went back to nine 1954 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:09,360 Speaker 6: to watch the film. But Rosama Unis was two and 1955 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,439 Speaker 6: one is a pro when she fought Carlo the first time? 1956 01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,439 Speaker 6: Is all but go ahead, Cody, Well. 1957 01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:18,559 Speaker 10: I'm just gonna bleep it anyway. No, So, Kenny Chandler Ferguson, 1958 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:19,720 Speaker 10: who do you think is? What do you think the 1959 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 10: odds are? 1960 01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:24,880 Speaker 4: We won't make John guess Chandler Ferguson, I would say 1961 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,919 Speaker 4: I want to guess minus minus two eighty for Chandler 1962 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 4: and Ferguson, uh plus two twenty. 1963 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,599 Speaker 10: Chandler's running about a minus four hundred. 1964 01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:39,719 Speaker 9: Oh really that high? 1965 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 2: Wow? 1966 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,719 Speaker 4: Wow, it disappears like a ghost. 1967 01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 6: What about champishit only? Oh you know, fucking Tony Ferguson, 1968 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,160 Speaker 6: don't count him out. That's a great card UFC two 1969 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 6: seventy four. I know you got pfl obligations. We got 1970 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,479 Speaker 6: to get you to one of these pay per views though, kemplow. 1971 01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,720 Speaker 6: You bailed on us in Jvill you know, I know. 1972 01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,000 Speaker 6: And how's your son? 1973 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,960 Speaker 7: He's great, He's great, going through a little grosspurt right now. 1974 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,800 Speaker 7: He's eating everything inside kid. 1975 01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:09,160 Speaker 6: That good. That's good. Mon's good, man, that's good. Hopefully Yeah, 1976 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:14,400 Speaker 6: and probably fucking smash my son Arctor Florian incidentally with 1977 01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:19,439 Speaker 6: a jiu jitsu kim in his house. We got to 1978 01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,640 Speaker 6: get on out of here. Thanks to Ray Longo, to 1979 01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,320 Speaker 6: Brian Petrie, thank you to Claudio Puhes and to our 1980 01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 6: guy cot Cruz for help and put it together. 1981 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:27,840 Speaker 4: Don't forget. 1982 01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 6: Remember the show with Balao coming up this Thursday, and 1983 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 6: we are back with you next Sunday, April twenty fourth. 1984 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,200 Speaker 6: We will recap UFC Fight Night, Lemos Versus Andrage, and 1985 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,599 Speaker 6: of course look ahead to a Monster Banham weeight event 1986 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,840 Speaker 6: main event on April thirtieth between Marlon Chito Vera and 1987 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,720 Speaker 6: Boston's Robert Font. With that for kem plum John and 1988 01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,280 Speaker 6: thank you for listening, for watching, for subscribing. Big announcement 1989 01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,920 Speaker 6: in the next few weeks. Until then, tell your friends 1990 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:53,760 Speaker 6: you'll fucking late.