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Speaker 1: If you're listening, we are back from break. This is

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Speaker 1: episode one fifty four. I'm your host Tatum Everett in

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Speaker 1: the studio with me today as our producer Jane Nelson. Jay,

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Speaker 1: did you enjoy your fourth of July break? Absolutely? I

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430
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Speaker 1: sport performance niche. For me, it was always about how

431
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Speaker 1: can I gain a competitive advantage when I played? How

432
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: can I help athletes gain a competitive advantage? And that's

433
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Speaker 1: really taking a process of turning over every stone, utilizing technology,

434
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,360
Speaker 1: measuring different things, creating a process that can enhance your

435
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: results based on comparing yourself against the competition. Fifteen years

436
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,959
Speaker 1: and with the Ramps, you were with the Rams when

437
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Speaker 1: Aaron Saint Louis that I know you said that was

438
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Speaker 1: your first like major, your job coming out of college.

439
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: So the fact that you got in like fresh out

440
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: of college, I know, that's a that's a story in

441
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: itself and if you want to dive into it. The

442
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: NFL world has changed so much in the last twenty years.

443
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: My first internship was in O four in training camp,

444
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: and so I sent my resume to all thirty two teams.

445
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: I had no insight connection and just said I'm just

446
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 1: gonna shoot my shot, shoot for it, and got a

447
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: letter back from the Rams and got in as an intern.

448
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: I said, if if I can just get in and

449
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: work my tail off and hopefully never walk out, and

450
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: that's opened up doors throughout my career and now I'm

451
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: here with the Minnesota Vikings. So but even back then,

452
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: a nutrition wasn't a thing. I mean, our training tables

453
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: back then were dominoes and you know Campbell's chunky soup,

454
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: and it just it was just such a hey, get

455
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Speaker 1: out there and just go through and see how your

456
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 1: response here along you last to where now it's we

457
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: have this saying that is a mantra and kind of

458
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: a core value for us within our performance world. Here

459
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: with the Vikings, as availability as winnability. So we invest

460
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: all this time, all this money into our draft picks

461
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: through our process with you know how Quasi manages the

462
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: draft and who we select, and then you know, Kevin

463
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: has a process of how we want to excel in

464
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Speaker 1: the field through a scheme. For us, it's how can

465
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Speaker 1: we maximize those investments and how can we how can

466
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Speaker 1: we keep them in tip top shape day in and

467
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Speaker 1: day out on the field, right, because I mean sports

468
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Speaker 1: science and what has developed over that, especially while you've

469
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Speaker 1: been you were with the Rams, It's more than just

470
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Speaker 1: being a trainer to these guys. It's measuring Like, yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: it's so much more. I think, Um, I use this term,

472
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Speaker 1: and I know you're gonna hate me for using this term,

473
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: but but when you came here, a lot of people

474
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Speaker 1: are saying, you know, this is a steal of a

475
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: higher You're a superstar in this NFL science sports world.

476
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Speaker 1: So I guess where was it where you started to

477
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Speaker 1: realize like this is where I'm going to put my

478
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: focus in and when you started to see a difference

479
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: in the players. Yeah, there's kind of two hearts to that.

480
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: So number one, when I kind of we started measuring

481
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: GPS and probably twenty thirteen with the RAMS, and it

482
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: takes a lot of extra work to put the units

483
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,239
Speaker 1: in charge them download the data, analyze it, and then

484
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: figure out what the heck you're going to do with it.

485
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: In team sport, it's a lot easier as a one

486
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Speaker 1: on one or a small group setting. And so we're

487
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: going through all this work, and I said, kind of

488
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: we got to a crossroads of we're either going to

489
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Speaker 1: use this stuff to make a bigger difference or we

490
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: just need to get rid of it, because I think

491
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: that happens a lot in our world. As people measure

492
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Speaker 1: just to measure, They get a new flashy technology just

493
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Speaker 1: to have it. Well, it's implementation is the graveyard of

494
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: great ideas, right Like, if you're not really doing something

495
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: to move the needle in the direction you want to,

496
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: you're really just you're just measuring and just measuring at

497
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Speaker 1: an elite level, but you're not really doing anything to

498
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Speaker 1: make an actual change. And so in team sport it

499
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: becomes how can you take surface level, simplistic things and

500
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Speaker 1: execute them better than anywhere else. I know this isn't

501
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: conducive to performance, but I always call it kind of

502
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: the McDonald's concept, like they do birds and fries, but

503
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: they do it better than anybody else. In a team sport,

504
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: we have to take care of ninety guys. You have

505
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: to do the simplistic things better than anybody else and

506
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: run and an effective and efficient clip. That's the elite

507
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: of the elite. And so our training room was kind

508
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: of full. We were really injured back in the day.

509
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Speaker 1: If you look with the RAMS and we started looking

510
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: as a performance team, how are we collaborating different disciplines

511
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Speaker 1: so we're making more accurate decisions. How are we taking

512
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 1: in nutrition, How are we taking in the weight room,

513
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: How are we taking in how we practice? How are

514
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Speaker 1: we combining that together to make a more collective, collaborative

515
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: decision to get a better intended outcome. And so we

516
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of looked how we were practicing and I said,

517
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Speaker 1: you know, I just don't want to acute care all

518
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: these guys like an emergency room, right, you guys come

519
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: in and say, hey, I got this new situation, and

520
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: or like urgent care. I guess it's probably a better analogy.

521
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 1: But guys come in, Hey, I'm store, Hey I got

522
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: the small injury. Well, you're overloaded, so you can't really

523
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: spend the time one on one with athletes, and so

524
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Speaker 1: I said, how can we get this to stop before

525
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Speaker 1: it starts? And so number one, it's it's how are

526
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: we loading these guys in an optimal way that they're

527
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: getting a benefited outcome, but we're not overloading. So it's

528
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: finding this sweet spot to train right. You don't want

529
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: to get under you don't want to be underprepared, but

530
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: you also don't want to be overworked. So you constantly

531
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: have to find that sweet spot. But you have to

532
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: measure it to figure that out. You're using numbers to

533
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: find that, using numbers to find it. So I know

534
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: this is kind of a long response, but it's it's important.

535
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: This kind of lays probably the foundation for the restless

536
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: conversation is taking that and understanding how we practice and

537
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: how we responded to how we practiced was huge because

538
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: then we could understand how are we matching up our

539
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: scheme with how we need to practice, How hard is it,

540
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: how many yards are we covering, how fast are we going,

541
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: and what does that look like over time? And can

542
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: we create a good process to repeat that? And then

543
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: it's funny, we used to do this heart rate variability measurement,

544
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: and so what it does is gives you an insight

545
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: to how your nervous system in your body is responding

546
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: to the train, whether you are kind of in a

547
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: recovered state or a stressful state. And one of the

548
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: players kind of told me, he's like, hey, ty Goes,

549
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: how do why do I have to have this machine

550
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: tell me how I feel? If I could just come

551
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: tell you, It's kind of like light bulb clicked. And

552
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: we created a couple of different pathways that we built

553
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: in house and we have here at the Minnesota Vikings

554
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: as well to capture how our athletes are responding. So

555
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: it's almost kind of like forced collaborative communication between our athletes.

556
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 1: If they don't feel comfortable coming in and saying, hey,

557
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: I feel sore, they're just like, oh, I'll just tough

558
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: through it. But we can find different ways to measure

559
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: that and then put some strategies in place before to

560
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: hit the field. And that's awesome. And I think just

561
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: to what you just said, with how many players, you

562
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: try to minimize how many players are in at one time,

563
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't understand that these players

564
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: spend more time with you or in the training room

565
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: or with the strength coaching staff than they do their

566
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: actual position coaches. So the effect that you guys have

567
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: not only on their health but their lives, it's monumental.

568
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: So the relationship aspect, because I mean they're in a

569
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: vulnerable state when they're with you guys. So how does

570
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: that make you feel? Just being able to be able

571
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: to affect a person, whether there's you know, physical health

572
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: or relationship us. Yeah, I think that's why we do

573
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: it right. When you get an athlete who is in

574
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Speaker 1: year ten of their career and they're like, man to

575
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: going through all this process, I feel like I'm in

576
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: year five or I feel like I could go another

577
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: five more years if we keep the same process. So

578
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: we use car analogies a ton with our players. Hey,

579
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are Ferrari's. They're the one

580
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: percent of the one percent. We don't just take a

581
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: Farra out of the garage and just rip it down

582
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: the highway. You have to make sure like the right rims,

583
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: the right tires are matched up with that Ferrari. You

584
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: have to make sure it's tuned up all the time.

585
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: And so that's enabling that car to optimize at its peak,

586
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: and so that's what we want to do with all

587
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: these athletes. We just have a lot of individual cars,

588
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: so you kind of have to have this individual strategy

589
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: for each guy. Again, there's three components. Why this doesn't

590
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: work in a lot of spaces is because it's extra work,

591
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: or there's an educational gap of does your whole performance

592
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: staff collaborate and communicate together as one voice, one message

593
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: approach is what I call it. And then number three,

594
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: sometimes you just don't have the environment from the top down.

595
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: And that's what attracted me to Minnesota was the people.

596
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: He had a great ownership, a great organization, a great

597
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: fan base, a great city. And then you introduce a

598
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: new innovative general manager and a new up and coming

599
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: head coach that are going to want to be progressive

600
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: an innovative, and that makes the whole thing kind of

601
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: go that you're able to like push the boundaries a

602
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, push the boundaries. And it's interesting because

603
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: people get nervous with different technology and adding that in

604
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: because it's an unknown and so I always kind of say,

605
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: you can't improve what you don't measure, and so sometimes

606
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: there's there might be a coach that's been in Remember

607
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Wade Phillips who was in

608
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: the league forever, and he's like, so about this GPS

609
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, so, it's the same thing as

610
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: you going to work out, going and work out and

611
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: scratch off all the numbers off the weights and just

612
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: see how it goes. Like you're just guests, So at

613
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we're all measuring something. It

614
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: just depends on what type of platform you want to

615
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: put it on or how heightened of a scenario you

616
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: want to make it. You just talk about all the

617
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: elements that go into what you guys do. And I

618
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: know you're the executive director of Player Health and Performance,

619
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: but you have strengthened conditioning staff, you have dietitians, you

620
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: have so many different processes that makes the ultimate player

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00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: get back on the field. How does that all work together? Gosh,

622
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: that's a loaded question. And that's a lot of things

623
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: where Like I think, if you look at any great organization,

624
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: any great company, elite communication is at the forefront. You

625
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: look at companies like Google, you look at company like

626
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: Zappos or different things like that have set up their

627
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: company to where they have these collision collaboration or collision

628
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: communication events, and it's so hard to get everybody in

629
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: Unison on the same page. So that's kind of where

630
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: we want to destructure this kind of new medical high

631
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: performance model, if you will, to where you have a

632
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: director of player health and performance, but then you have

633
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: a director of player performance. In the weight room, I

634
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: think strength coach is kind of an older term. I

635
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: think they do a lot more than just right weight

636
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: training programs. Now sports medicine will eventually have a director

637
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: of player of health. Right now, we have a heath

638
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: like trainer and your Ryah Myrie and as he continues

639
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: to advance that room. Sports medicine is a vast concept

640
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: of vision training and recovery and how we have new

641
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: surgical techniques and how we're taking care of the players.

642
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: But then you know Remy with nutrition and Dan who's

643
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: doing our sports science. Even in the equipment room, I

644
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: mean they're measuring foot and ankle types to understand how

645
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: cleats should fit better. And there's so many things happening

646
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: at such a fast clip and making sure that that's

647
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: all on one page and all in Unison is enormous

648
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: for us, and that just takes the right type of

649
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: collaboration because when you have all those disciplines coming together

650
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: to make more of a collaborative decision, it creates an

651
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: attended purpose behind everything you do. So if we said, hey,

652
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna put Gay on this nutrition plan, but somebody

653
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: else going to put you on this workout plan, but

654
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: those don't mesh. It's kind of this oil and water concept, right.

655
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: You want to make sure that everything is enhancing each

656
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: component that goes in to make the puzzle fit and

657
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: as a clear picture. So much of what you said

658
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: is obviously the concepts behind it, and so for people

659
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: that may not know so much about those concepts and

660
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: they're seeing the big picture. I wanted to get your

661
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: take on the rehab process that you worked with cam

662
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Akers on because I think a lot of people look

663
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: as that as something that you were the lead on.

664
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: You were the assistant NFC Assistant Trainer Award, I think

665
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: mainly because of your work with him. So when something

666
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: like that happens, when you have I think you believe

667
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: it was an acl injury Achilles injury. So when you

668
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: have something that is so difficult to come back on,

669
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: especially at his position, how were you able to apply

670
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: everything you've been talking about to his situation and get

671
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: the player back on the field sooner than really is anticipated. Yeah,

672
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: I think modern medicine and the surgical techniques are definitely

673
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: like helping with that, and we had it took us

674
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: a while to get there, but with the RAMS we

675
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: started function at such a high elite level and so

676
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: many entities because as that process started to kind of

677
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: turn over as a flywheel and turn over more and

678
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: more and more, we really started to just fully just

679
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: operate as a as a well oiled machine. And our

680
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: director rehab their Byron Cunningham, really kind of mainly took

681
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: the lead on that. And then where I found sports

682
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: science to come into play so well is it's kind

683
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: of a servant position. You're really serving all these other

684
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: departments to enhance what they do, and you kind of

685
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: run in the background, but you utilize all this technology

686
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: to enhance those expertise. It should never like, should always

687
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: enhance our decision making, should never drive it. So with

688
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: cam Akers, we shot for that from day one. And

689
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: obviously these elite athletes they make or break your program, right,

690
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: Like we could try that with a lot of different

691
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: people at cam Akers is a he's a free so

692
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: and as a lot of these guys are, so we

693
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: also said, hey, we're going to shoot for this within

694
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: a safe framework. But I think it's always important to

695
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: push the boundaries until you If you don't push the boundaries,

696
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: you don't really know what you can achieve. And so

697
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: we set that from day one and we utilized every

698
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: single thing, and again we turned over every stone. We

699
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: measured a ton with force plates, how he was loading,

700
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: how we could maybe biohack how he's training for power

701
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: earlier on. But we took into play what shoes he

702
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: was wearing, what cleats he was wearing, how he was loading,

703
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: with the physical therapist, with Byron, how he was We

704
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: looked at some kinematic which is biomechanical video analysis with

705
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: one of our other pts, and so we kind of

706
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: just took every aspect and brought it into one process.

707
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Was there a baseline because an achilles is usually a year, like,

708
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: did you have a baseline of like another athlete on

709
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: other athlete came back from this? So no, I don't

710
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: know if another athlete has came back that fast, maybe

711
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: one or two that's been close. But yeah, I think

712
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: that was why everyone was really surprised and impressed to

713
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: see that the ability for you to apply with you know,

714
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: your specialty to all this and the synergy and the

715
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: collaboration for it sounds like really can make a huge difference,

716
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: which is something I really wanted you to talk about,

717
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: especially because Vikings fans can look forward to maybe you know,

718
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: injuries have been a problem in the past. We don't

719
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: want any injuries taking yes, but who knows what I

720
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: mean to happen for this for this roster in particular

721
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: that they have, they've you know, it's been differences in

722
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: games because of things like that, and that's obviously where

723
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: you're here for. Yeah, I think that's where we're going

724
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: to bring a new approaching and utilize some technology to

725
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: gain insights. Right like, that's we can only see what

726
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: we can see with our eyes. And then so measuring

727
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: guys on force plates, um measuring guys through different technology

728
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: pathways that we have on you know, simple wellness soreness

729
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: questionnaires that we built on iPads, or how their heart

730
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: and recovery or responding through a couple different modalities, enables

731
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: us to have kind of our eyes inside their body

732
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: to a certain extent and understand all those different data

733
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: points or measurables and put them together to then make

734
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: a better decision globally of how we structure practice, of

735
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: why we travel when we travel, and then even dial

736
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: in that. So it kind of starts let me backtrack

737
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: one is it starts kind of from global strategies and

738
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: then we kind of drill that down to how we

739
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: handle positions, and then drill that down to how we

740
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: handle the individual athletes. And we've always believed instead of

741
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: shooting for like a complex, flashy model is do simple

742
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: things really really well and then stack those together, so

743
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: get to complexity through simplicity. If that makes sense. All

744
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you that's allusion of complexity again, Yeah,

745
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm just right. And so I think it's one of

746
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: those things that I think sometimes people are scared just

747
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: to do simple and it's you know, it's the old

748
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: adage of fund being fundamentally sound, be fundamentally sound better

749
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: than the others around you. Those together and all of

750
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, man, we've built this really complex wall,

751
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: but it's just stacking that simplistic block day in and

752
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: day out. And those are a lot of things that

753
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: we'll bring here and we already have brought through the

754
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: offseason conditioning program. I think just as I mean people

755
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: forget at the end of the day that you guys

756
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: are still fans too of like the team, Like you

757
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: want to see these guys do well. So like what

758
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: is your ultimate goal for for what you guys do

759
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: that can ultimately help us get to where you got

760
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: last year with it? Yeah? Yeah, I think the individual

761
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: or the competitive nature inside you wants to win a

762
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: championship every single year because that's what you get in

763
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: it for. You get in it for the feelings on Sunday,

764
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: the game days, the things that you can't get other places, right.

765
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: But the other aspect of that is creating these players

766
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: and giving them an environment where they can be the

767
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: best version of themselves on and off the field. So

768
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: some of that is a lot of times there's injuries

769
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: that happen that could have been mitigated or avoided if

770
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: you were measuring different things on the front end, right,

771
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: Like if you're going into you don't have a dialed

772
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: in individual plan, and you go into week three and

773
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: you've already been overloaded, but it's not something that you

774
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: measured and you were at a breaking point. If you

775
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: didn't know that, you you can't make an intervention to

776
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: dial it back. And so it becomes this cea saw

777
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: of blending football and performance and matching that like, you

778
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: can be really fresh by not practicing, but you can

779
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: suck at football exactly right, which is not good. But

780
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: you can also be really good at football and not

781
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: fresh at all, and that's not optimal either, because hey,

782
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: you're really good at football, but in the fourth quarter

783
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: your legs are gone and then you lose availability. It

784
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: comes into this what's the optimal Viking look like? And

785
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: how can we get them there? And how can we

786
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: repeat that player in and player out and year and in,

787
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: year out. And that's kind of where we're headed with

788
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: all the different components and really building a big system.

789
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Over the past six or seven years with the RAMS,

790
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: I've learned so many different unique pathways and ways to

791
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: get athlete buying and coach buying and blend that together.

792
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: That that's what we're building and laying the foundation of

793
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: our systems. Now, well, I've really enjoyed nerding out over

794
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: this with you. Can I say that Can I say

795
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: that we're kind of nerding out over this because I

796
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: wish we had like thirty more minutes. Yeah, I haven't

797
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: even got to like but like this is just like

798
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: Tatum said, this is great just talking like this stuff

799
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that people don't see because there's like

800
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, kind of what we do. There's a science

801
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: to everything that we do and the fact that people

802
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: love talking about what they do. This is another opportunity

803
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: for Vikings fans to get an inside of Like, Okay,

804
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: this is another aspect. They don't just go in the

805
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: weight room and lift much weights and work out and

806
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: call it a day. There's so much more behind it,

807
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: that's right. I know you were talking about perfect body bills,

808
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: Like if I had to build the perfect body for

809
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: an optimal Viking player, it'll probably the Neil Hunter size

810
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: Dalvein Cook explosion probably JJ hands. I mean, I can

811
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: keep going on under you have. I mean, it's some

812
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: guys are like, hey, you know, I kind of want

813
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: to get on a program. It looks like Daniel, I'm like, well,

814
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: you should probably go back in time and pick different parents,

815
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: because that is a gift. Ye, then you just might

816
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: not get Yeah, where do you where to to like

817
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: hit athletic ability, his freak athletic talent. Where does that

818
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: rank for you? Like how you could have seen it?

819
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: I was getting there. I mean he's up there. I

820
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: mean there's there's not many guys in the NFL that

821
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: look like danil Um, look like Zadarius, look like some

822
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: of the other guys that we have, So we gotta

823
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: I mean the roster's fantastic and us having so many

824
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: guys come in this offseason was huge for us, not

825
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: only for football wise, but for performance wise, just preparing

826
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: them for training camp and understanding our athletes up down, left, right,

827
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: all the way around right um, how they move, how

828
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: they respond to training and so we can really come

829
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: in with the right step forward and training camp of

830
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: what each guy needs, because sometimes it just teaching them

831
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: how to be a pro, and teach them early. Some

832
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: of these guys that come out of college, they don't

833
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: know everything of how to take care of their body

834
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: and they it's a learning process. So can we shorten

835
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: that learning curve? Can we be better than the other

836
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: guys in our division? And yeah, I mean you got

837
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: to learn a new roster, all new faces. I mean

838
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: you're starting over too, you know, a couple of years.

839
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a new one thing for you

840
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: as well. Yes, but it's been a great challenge. I mean,

841
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: like I said at the beginning, the thing that attracted

842
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: me to Minnesota the most was the people. And we

843
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: always say our people are a competitive advantage, not the

844
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: technology and other stuff like that. So that's where we

845
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: look to make the biggest difference with our vikings players.

846
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: Very cool. Well, the ultimate goal is for all these

847
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: players to stay out of your training room so they

848
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: can just be on the field and I have to

849
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: worry about it, but we know it. That's all right.

850
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: That's all right though. But we told him, we said, hey,

851
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: you don't have to be sick to get better. That's true.

852
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: That's where we're swinging that pendulum of performance enhancing sports medicine.

853
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: So drop some bars on this podcast. Yeah, no, thank

854
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: you so much. We may I need to have like

855
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: another mid season one to check out or something's kind

856
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: of a hint of some of the stuff, and we

857
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: touched on a lot of topics, but it could be

858
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: a whole thing on force plates. There's a lot of

859
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Speaker 1: a lot of neat stuff that a lot of our

860
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: staff is doing down the whole. Well, I think those

861
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: are a couple of story ideas for us to really

862
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: think about. Huh. Appreciate you, Yeah, for sure, we definitely

863
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: have to dive into that. But appreciate your time. I

864
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: know you got to get back to the trainer's Appreciate you. No,

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00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much for thank you so much. Thank

866
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: you so much to Tyler Williams for joining us as

867
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: part of this off season get to know you series.

868
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: I guess you can call it. It's getting to know

869
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: some of the coordinators and coaches that you might not

870
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: see and now you know health staff, player performance staff

871
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: that you don't necessarily see at the podium talking but

872
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: really are making things work behind the scenes. We had

873
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: three heads assistant coaches on so far and now Tyler.

874
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: The next week we will have Derek Keys, who's a

875
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: part of the performance staff as well, and he is

876
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: someone who has carried over with the staff, so you

877
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: kind of get his perspective from the change, the transition

878
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: and to look into you know, I don't I know

879
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: the coaches work really closely with these players, but I'm

880
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: not sure that anybody works as closely with these players

881
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: as someone on the performance staff like Derek Keys. That's

882
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: the thing with Keys, and even Tyler and his crew.

883
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: They are seeing these guys virtually every day. You know,

884
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: they are the people that are helping them work through

885
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: the aches and pains, kind of get their body ready

886
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: if they have some sort of an injury. They're the

887
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: ones that are helping get them out there as fast

888
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: as possible. And so having a guy like Tyler come in,

889
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: like we said, with kind of these new ideas, and

890
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: then having a guy like Derek who really understands these

891
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: guys and has these relationships with a lot of the

892
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: different players that I've already been here, let alone the

893
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: new guys coming into, you know, work with them. They've

894
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: been working with them all this offseason as well. So

895
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: to go from Tyler to Derek, I think is a

896
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: great great transition there, and I think you guys are

897
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: really going to enjoy that. Derek Key's interview next week definitely,

898
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: so be sure to check that out, as well as

899
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: our interview with Jamie Urdall. There's a couple of new

900
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: interviews up there. I think we also have an interview

901
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: with offensive line coach Chris Cooper on the website that's

902
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: just up this week as well. So you know, we're

903
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: still in the offseason. It's get to know you time.

904
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: We'll be ramping up a training camp content in no time,

905
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: but I did want to plug this one thing before

906
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: we head out. Vikings running back Alexander Madison is hosting

907
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: a free life skills and football camp this Friday at

908
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: Hamlin University. It's part of his I Am Gifted brand

909
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: to help raise mental health awareness. It's two separate students

910
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: first through sixth graders or three to five, seven through

911
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: twelfth graders or six to nine, and you can go

912
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: to his Twitter account to get more information. I always

913
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: like seeing he does this camp pretty often, and I

914
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: like that he includes the life skills part so important.

915
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: That's the thing. You talk to a lot of people,

916
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: especially after the pandemic the last couple of years. You know,

917
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: you talked to a lot of I work with a

918
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: bunch of teachers and people that work with kids, and

919
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: the idea of not only dealing with kind of the

920
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: football side, which usually gets football trick when you go

921
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: to a football camp, but I think you know a

922
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Speaker 1: lot of kids, whether it's themselves, their parents, they're their

923
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: mentors and people they work with. Anything you can do

924
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: to help them or help reassure and kind of even

925
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: reassess working with them and helping get them the life

926
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: skills that they need to be productive people and productive

927
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: for themselves. But for everybody, I think is great and

928
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: so much more about the game nowadays more sorry, it's

929
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: so much more than the game. Yeah, and that's it.

930
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: It's you're realizing that it's not just about football, it's

931
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: about life. And so having a guy like Madison who

932
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: wants to do these kind of things and really give back,

933
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: it's just a it's a great thing that he's doing.

934
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: So I think if anyone is interested, definitely go check

935
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: that out. They're always looking for more participants. And like

936
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: you said, it's this Friday, so hurry up, go check

937
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: it out and sign up. Yeah, not that far, not

938
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: that far from anybody living in around this area. Listening

939
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: from far away. It's summer, it's right there. You go.

940
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to the Minnesota vikings

941
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: Pot Cast. We are going to wrap up this episode.

942
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: Jay and I are gonna wrap up this episode and

943
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: we'll be back next week, like we said, with a

944
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: Derek Keys interview, and who knows, maybe some more news.

945
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little slow right now, but I'm

946
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: sure things we pick it up soon. Things always pick

947
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: up right before camp, and you never know. There's always

948
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: mystery signings that end up happening around the league. We'll

949
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: see if the Purple end up making something. He's not

950
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: foreshadowing anything, guys, we don't actually know, but I just

951
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: I always know that this time of year there's always

952
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: crazy things that happens, and I'm curious to see what,

953
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: if anything does There we go, We'll enjoy the rest

954
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: of your summer. Hope to see you guys out at

955
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: training camp. Don't forget, tickets are still on sale for now.

956
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week, I guess.