WEBVTT - “I’M ENTERING A NEW ERA”

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<v Speaker 1>Hi. What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Let's go with Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave. What's up, Dave? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing pretty good. I'm just hanging out waiting by

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<v Speaker 2>my window because I'm getting an important package today. But

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<v Speaker 2>my apartment doesn't have a buzzer, so he's hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the mailman.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're like a wife at the pier waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for her sailor husband to return to.

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<v Speaker 2>Her, yeah, it feels very wistful, kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, may that. May I ask what's in the

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<v Speaker 1>package that you're waiting for?

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<v Speaker 2>It is the title to my car because it's it

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<v Speaker 2>was my parents' carbet we're transferring it, but they live

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<v Speaker 2>out of state, so just hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's nice. That's quite an adult because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid and I was waiting for package,

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<v Speaker 1>it was usually like a toy or a game or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And now where now that we're old, we're waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>the title to our car, which is and we're just

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<v Speaker 1>as excited because it feels good to complete the navigation

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<v Speaker 1>of bureaucracy in a competent way. Yes, hopefully it's well, Weave, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume that, and by the way, totally fine if

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<v Speaker 1>it was. But is there a particular thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>called in to want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've been watching your show for a while

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like over the months there have been

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<v Speaker 2>different things that I've wanted to call in for, but

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<v Speaker 2>at this stage in my life, like it's it's I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know this the past couple of months, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of changes, new job, just feeling different in general.

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<v Speaker 2>At my previous job, I was super underworked, which was

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<v Speaker 2>like a weird feeling. I wanted to tell him about

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<v Speaker 2>that before.

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<v Speaker 1>You were feeling underworked? Yes, what what was that job?

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing? Like events for a nonprofit?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how many events does a nonprofit have per quarter?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you could do? Probably you could. You could do

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<v Speaker 2>one a week if you wanted to, but you I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to have weekends. Like yeah, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You okay, all right? So over the huh See, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you had a lot of things that were

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<v Speaker 1>stressing you out, but now this happens to sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you have a lot of things that are stressing

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<v Speaker 1>you out, but then you let a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>time pass and then you realize that it fucking didn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter at all. You know you were gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what's happening right now? Or am I making

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<v Speaker 1>an a leap?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say that somewhat of a leap,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm still adjusting to my new situation and adjusting

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<v Speaker 2>to a new state. I've been here for a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the new state?

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts?

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts? What you're doing in Massachusetts?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm living my life, just walking around and walking in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods and cooking. Learned how to cook mochi the

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<v Speaker 2>other day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not being a get go.

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<v Speaker 1>What what are you is the adjustment? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>adjusting to? What do you feel like there is left

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<v Speaker 1>to adjust to?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't always say that's what's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Is like.

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<v Speaker 2>When you start a new grade or a new school

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<v Speaker 2>when you're growing up, it's it's very clear what there

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<v Speaker 2>is that you need to adjust to your like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel this way because I need friends, or I

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<v Speaker 2>feel which if it's like all of the above, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's kind of hard to pinpoint one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I switched over to a new job that I

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<v Speaker 2>like more so that helped I've made a few friends now,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are.

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<v Speaker 2>You I just turned twenty four?

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool? Yeah, that's good. Friends are the most important

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<v Speaker 1>thing in life. I do feel. I do feel friends

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<v Speaker 1>are the most important thing in life. Nothing really matters

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you don't have friends. Nothing about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because not nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you hold on when you so when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about when you said you think about that sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about when you're thinking about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess I think do I need to

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<v Speaker 2>spend more time with my friends and my peers or

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<v Speaker 2>do I need to spend more time by myself?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's an interesting question.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like at this stage of life, since I'm

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<v Speaker 2>new here, I really only know my girlfriend and so

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<v Speaker 2>we hang out together every day. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>your communication style kind of evolves in tandem with one person.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're only hanging out with one person every day,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get all the new ideas, Like you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get definite Yeah, like I want to hear people say

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<v Speaker 2>like interesting novel things to me that it's like, where

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<v Speaker 2>did you get that? I was talking with my one

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<v Speaker 2>of my new friends about this guy was friends with

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<v Speaker 2>who had all.

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<v Speaker 3>These really all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a really funny. So just I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to let you finish, but that's a really really

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<v Speaker 1>funny way to talk about wanting new friends, because there

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<v Speaker 1>is truth to its total. I absolutely want to be

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<v Speaker 1>around people who are saying interesting novel things. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the exciting things about being around new people. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the way you phrased that, So go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>You met somebody who's a conspiracy theorist.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that was that was some friends I had. Well

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<v Speaker 2>I've met a few different conspiracy purities in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, so you just so, you just are hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with your girlfriend, and where would you if you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to meet new people? Where would you go?

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<v Speaker 2>M So, this is something I wanted to tell you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's I came up with this plot and I

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<v Speaker 2>call it like the old fashioned way of making friends, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's you go to the bar once a week,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the gym once a week, and you

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<v Speaker 2>go to church or whatever religious organization you go to

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<v Speaker 2>once a week. Look at and that's the old that's

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<v Speaker 2>how they did it.

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<v Speaker 1>In the whenever the thing, look at this guy, look

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<v Speaker 1>at this guy, he has a plan. This guy is

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<v Speaker 1>I did not.

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<v Speaker 2>I came up with that like a year ago and

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<v Speaker 2>I never really followed through.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's a great plan. I like that plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. I mean the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>The gym, well, I mean the gym's the gym is

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<v Speaker 1>good because it just makes you feel better, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not I've never particularly saw saw the gym as a

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<v Speaker 1>social activity. I mean, I have a friend or two

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll go to the gym with, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where I've ever met new people doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You could do like there's you know, classes, or like

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<v Speaker 1>you could you could file that, you know what instead

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<v Speaker 1>of the gym. You could file it under like fucking

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<v Speaker 1>physical activity, right, like do a fucking soccer or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>thing or you know, go bouldering or some shit like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I like that plan. You go to the

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<v Speaker 1>church once a week, you go to the what was

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking other one though? Uh, the bar, go to

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<v Speaker 1>the bar once a week, and you go to the

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<v Speaker 1>do a physical activity once a week. That's like three

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<v Speaker 1>days a week that you're Yeah, and then when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in while you're there, you got to challenge yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to some new people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, I don't know how to approach strangers.

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<v Speaker 2>I never really learned. I mean I was the kid

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<v Speaker 2>in high school who would walk around and say hi

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<v Speaker 2>to every single person in the hallway that I possibly could,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got to know like half the school. But

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<v Speaker 2>then you go to and you're just the weirdo. So

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<v Speaker 2>I stopped. Yeah, it was like the friendly kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, really, when you say, can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>me more about this? You went up to everyone around

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<v Speaker 1>you and said hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was like my whole thing was I got so.

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<v Speaker 2>I studied sociology in college, among other things, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did that partly because in high school I was super

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<v Speaker 2>into making these surveys and like going around to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the school and like asking them, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>multiple choice question and then like getting all that information.

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<v Speaker 1>You would ask people multiple choice questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was like what I did during lunch every day.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of like just for fun, Like this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>an assignment. You just did this for fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I hear some of the questions that you might

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<v Speaker 1>have asked?

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, I mean, one of them it was

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<v Speaker 2>anything from like where would you land your spaceship. If

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<v Speaker 2>you were a Martian invading Earth and you want to

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<v Speaker 2>set up like a new capital city, okay, and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>would choose that and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Or some of them would be effect Was this effective

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Do you feel like you do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>more integrated into the larger community as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>your surveys?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did. I think people saw me. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like a familiar face, even if I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of super close friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you tried this again in college and people

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<v Speaker 1>thought you were weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't. I didn't do that in college.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you, but you alluded to that you said

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<v Speaker 1>something that you felt weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just like saying hi to everyone you pass and

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<v Speaker 2>like because it's not normal to stay hi to everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I learned that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So if someone could you imagine that guy where like

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<v Speaker 1>you walk past you walk past them and you say hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they go, look at that fuck their fucking

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<v Speaker 1>asshole saying hello to me. It's like, you know, screw

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. That's not Yeah even if that, even if

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<v Speaker 1>that is a guy that you imagine in your head,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who when you say hi to them, he

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<v Speaker 1>goes what a fucking horrible man saying hi to everyone. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>even if that is the guy, even if the guy

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<v Speaker 1>you have in your head exists, that's that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter because you were never going to reach

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<v Speaker 1>him anyway, and I don't know if you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>even talk to that person.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. See, I've noticed I have less social anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>just walking around in the mornings here and then because

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<v Speaker 2>there's something to say. You say good morning when you

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<v Speaker 2>watch and like I went to Mexico recently and you

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<v Speaker 2>have good morning, good afternoon, good evening, all in your toolbox.

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<v Speaker 2>You say good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>What's good? Buenos dias, buenos tardes, buenos nochez.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very reassuring. And one time I said all

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<v Speaker 2>up to someone I passed on the street and they

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<v Speaker 2>looked at me like I was crazy. So you have

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<v Speaker 2>should start those three you should.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you should start just around your around uh Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>being just saying buenos to people and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be kind of fun Yeah, that is that

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<v Speaker 1>is funny. That is funny that when you like walk

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<v Speaker 1>around in the mornings because there's something to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the fact that it's morning. It's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to scramble for something to connect with others on.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just connect with them on the simple level

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<v Speaker 1>that that it is morning slash afternoons slash evening. That's good,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. Uh yeah, do you Okay, so you were

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging out with your girlfriend, but do you have friends?

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<v Speaker 1>In Massachusetts already?

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<v Speaker 2>I met the very It took like a year to

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<v Speaker 2>make to start making friends, which I think I could

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<v Speaker 2>have done it in less than that. But we're here now,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I hung out with two friends in the

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<v Speaker 2>past week.

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<v Speaker 1>Two friends is good. Two friends is good. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching some stupid YouTube video and it said

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<v Speaker 1>something like most Americans haven't have Americans have an average

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<v Speaker 1>of two friends. So but an average is not Like,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a lot of lonely people who have no friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a lot of socialites so have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of friends. You add them all together and divide it

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<v Speaker 1>by whatever, and you get to you get two friends

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<v Speaker 1>a pop. So if you got to at least two friends,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing good. You're better than the national average.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird when you have friends you can't see

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<v Speaker 2>too much in different time zone, different part of the country,

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<v Speaker 2>because you feel like you can feel yourself like growing apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's your name again, Dave? Dave? Well, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>do we have any you know what? I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take some questions from the chat. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I like taking questions from the Actually I do know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I said, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I do know why. I said. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I said I don't know why because I lacked confidence

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<v Speaker 1>in my decision. M hm, and so I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in my decision. Sorry, I'm acting like a lunatic.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's get some questions from the chat. If

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<v Speaker 1>the chat has any questions for Dave. Someone wants to

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<v Speaker 1>know what car are you waiting for the title.

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<v Speaker 2>To It's a Honda Odyssey Van.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm uh yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone said, do you think I'm going to survive during

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<v Speaker 1>this hurricane in Florida?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think so, someone asked.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone asked, if if you have if you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>sex in the van?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I am I going to?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we have? Have you?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and no?

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<v Speaker 1>How can it be yes and yes? And no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>The first question yes, the second question no, because I

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<v Speaker 2>now use it as a second closet because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any closets here.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait will buzzer, wait wait wait wait wait, the question is, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me see the question where does it say? Uh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>let me actually see what the actual question was. The

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<v Speaker 1>question was, yeah, have you he said, oh wait, the

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<v Speaker 1>question he said he he finna get niaky in the van.

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<v Speaker 1>And now someone just said, do you fucking it? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was the question, so I guess whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>answer that question.

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<v Speaker 2>Is no, I use it for storage. Okay, I have

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<v Speaker 2>so much stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, somebody No, somebody said, he's trying to say he

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<v Speaker 1>has had sex in the van already, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to in the future. Yeah, you got it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, okay, all right, that's what I thought. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take one more question from the chat. Let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>uh oh, what is your what's your favorite band?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't have one anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is so cryptic with you, I see.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a cryptic answer. No, no, no, because that is

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<v Speaker 1>an answer, right you You said I don't have one.

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<v Speaker 1>Anymore which used to have but and you but you

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<v Speaker 1>did that on is the leading things? But it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the What was the band that you had? Had

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite one?

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<v Speaker 2>In college? I really liked like eighties Scottish rock based

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<v Speaker 2>and for some reason, so I listened to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the Water Boys and Big Country and that other one.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember, but yeah, that's cool eighties Scottish rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a fucking do they have a what's the

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<v Speaker 1>name of that instrument? What's the name of the come on?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the name of the hurdy gurdy? No, they're what harmonica?

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<v Speaker 1>The bagpipes? Do they play bagpipes in the Scottish rock bands?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they but they would so they would modify their

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<v Speaker 2>guitars to kind of sound like bad bagpipes, a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like the electric guitars. Yeah, electric Scottish.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Dave, was this was this conversation? Did you enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>having this conversation?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I know that's cryptic.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I expected nothing less.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to ask you for some advice though,

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<v Speaker 2>just to get I need to I need to think

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<v Speaker 2>of what is the most pressing thing right now? Mm hmm, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess mm hmm. So I'm pretty I'm pretty not antisocial.

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<v Speaker 2>But I used to be a lot more social, as

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, high school, college, and then now

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of I feel like and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people feel like since COVID, we've kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just been un learning, like all of our social

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<v Speaker 2>skills that we had built up. I would you learn them?

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<v Speaker 2>Want to? How would how would you get those back?

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<v Speaker 1>How'd I re learn social skills?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm that you had at one point that stage

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<v Speaker 2>in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, let you know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give you advice because you don't really need my advice.

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<v Speaker 1>You had it down pretty well. You were like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to the I'm going to do my

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<v Speaker 1>physical activity. I'm going to go to the church, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go to what's the fucking third one?

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it? The bar? At the bar, there's no you

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<v Speaker 1>just just go just go to them and talk to

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<v Speaker 1>people and try your best. There's no there's no magic,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Don't do it for me, do it for you, man. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, there's uh yeah, yeah, I have I have

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<v Speaker 1>no ad But you had it down great. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>the plan. You had a plan. I loved the plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to your plan.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you at a church. I guess I won't

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<v Speaker 1>because Jewish.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, maybe you're ever gonna come to Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I ever gonna come to New Hampshire. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be so honest with you. I don't think I'll ever

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<v Speaker 1>come to New Hampshire. Yeah, I don't. I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to promise. I try not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>always successful, but I try not to. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to just be like, yeah, no, man, totally going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pretty rare Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I don't. I I might. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I will. I might die having never gone to New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 2>It's somewhat unfortunate, but you're not. There's other similar places

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<v Speaker 2>to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's other places I'm sure that I'll probably go to.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dave, is there anything else you want to say

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<v Speaker 1>to the people of the computer before we go? See?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't prepared for this, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to prepare whatever is in your head, Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess just speak from the heart, even if it's cryptic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Already knew it was going to be I was prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for it to be cryptic. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that was my advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh oh shit. All right, Well thank you, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>good luck, good luck. Stick with the plan. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good plan.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'll try my best. Nice talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Crap. I hung up on him. Well I didn't really.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the end of the call. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>nice talking to you, to Dave. It's nice talking to

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<v Speaker 1>you too. I liked that plan. This you gotta do stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the thing. There's no secret. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>advice for him. My advice for him would have been

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<v Speaker 1>probably guess to go out and do stuff. But he

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<v Speaker 1>already knew that there was no He wasn't missing any information.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not of lack of info. There's like certain

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<v Speaker 1>I think certain times, when you have like a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>you try to convince yourself that you just don't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough information to solve your problem because you're procrastinating on

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<v Speaker 1>taking any actual action to solve your problem. I know

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<v Speaker 1>this from a lot of lived experience and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of experience. I continue to live where I'm like on

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<v Speaker 1>chatchy bit your Google being like how do I lose weight?

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<v Speaker 1>Or how do I do this? Or whatever? And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>or how do I talk to people? What do I like?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? You know what? You just do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess maybe maybe I'm wrong, God I don't. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I hate about having a podcast is you

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<v Speaker 1>say stuff and then it becomes like you're right, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're not. Just because you say something in your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean you're right. I just want everyone to know

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<v Speaker 1>that I might be wrong. I might be wrong about everything, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to I'm just That's why I like

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<v Speaker 1>talking to other people. This is why I like talking

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<v Speaker 1>to other people. I like hearing other people's advice and

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<v Speaker 1>lived experience because if then if they're wrong, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not my fault. But uh yeah, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you probably just do it. Just go talk to people,

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<v Speaker 1>go to church, go to the bar, talk to some

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<v Speaker 1>guy or girl. Live your life. Hello, Hello, hiy hi.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name? Mina like with an M, yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>I an a Mina. What's up? Mina? How's life has.

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<v Speaker 4>Been very fucking crazy lately? Very crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like for you, mister Gecko man, how's.

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<v Speaker 1>Life for me? Mister Gecko man. Uh well, actually, well,

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<v Speaker 1>over the past week, I've made some certain I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to live life a little bit more intentionally. I am. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing actually pretty okay over the past week.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad to hear that, because like it's sound of

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<v Speaker 4>like you were, I don't know, the super depressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, it often on this podcast, does indeed

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<v Speaker 1>sound like I am super depressed. I accept that. I

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that. I'm happy to share that I did this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if people on the who

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this show know this, but I did this

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<v Speaker 1>like Vice interview earlier this year, and it came out

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<v Speaker 1>back in January, and I watched it and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a professionally made documentary from

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<v Speaker 1>a major news outlet about how fucking depressed I am.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what this is. It's like twenty minutes of me

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<v Speaker 1>being depressed. And I watched that and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta change something because there's because you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>that quote that's like if a documentary film crew followed

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<v Speaker 1>you around, what would they find and they just found

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<v Speaker 1>me like complaining? So you know, I'm trying to get,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm also okay, but I'm also okay with sharing

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<v Speaker 1>it because I want if so. I'm sure a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people listening to this shit are depressed, and so

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<v Speaker 1>if if I I think, if they see that I'm depressed,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it'll make them feel less stupid about being depressed.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, okay, we did it. I got. I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about myself for the quota. I was trying to hit

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Because so you were interviewed by Vice and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't gotten around to watching it, but I was

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<v Speaker 4>recently interviewed by NBC, and I just want to know

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<v Speaker 4>how did you feel after being interviewed after after an

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<v Speaker 4>air and shit, because me personally, like I was so

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<v Speaker 4>excited in the moment, I was like telling my story

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<v Speaker 4>and things, and then as soon as it came out,

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<v Speaker 4>like I hate.

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<v Speaker 2>This so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Something.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you say about like your documentary, your experience

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<v Speaker 4>with Essa.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't like it, but oh but as nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, just as I want to make it

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<v Speaker 1>very clear, it has nothing to do with Vice themselves

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<v Speaker 1>or the people that were making their documentary. They were

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<v Speaker 1>very lovely, they were very lovely. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>make that very clear. It has to do with I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like it because it kept I because it here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I feel like, it captured, you know, truthful elements

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<v Speaker 1>of my life, and I did not like those elements,

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<v Speaker 1>not because of anything with doc itself. It's just it

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>like basically captured and it maybe like look in a mirror,

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you know I and I didn't like, right, So that's

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>that's how I feel. But what were you interviewed about?

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.719
<v Speaker 4>Because so I live in Florida, and you know, we

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 4>all love Florida so much, and I'm a trans woman

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 4>and I just graduated high school and basically I got

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.959
<v Speaker 4>suspend it for using the women's back around my school.

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not trying to get a political anything. I'm

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 4>talking what it's about. And so they were interviewing me

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.479
<v Speaker 4>and a couple of other students about that, about our

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 4>experience as trans students and Florida and stuff like that.

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 4>And I was excited to tell my story because you know,

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 4>like there's a lot of people out there who need

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 4>to know about Florida and shing like that. But as

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 4>soon as they came out, I regretted it so much

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 4>because one like something crazy that I did not expect

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 4>is that I think getting handwritten letters to my house

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 4>from the same person, just like schizophrenic writing, and it's crazy.

0:29:58.960 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 4>It's insane. Bro.

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean yeah, I mean going on the news

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and talking about something like that. I mean you totally,

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know.

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 4>No, I can't touch bro, like I listen, I don't understand.

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 4>I understand I'm obviously gonna get hate in shit. But

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 4>the letters that I have gotten. The letter I got

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 4>was this person talking about veganism and they were telling

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 4>me that I need to go vegan or I need

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 4>to repent for my sins because I'm not vegan, and

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 4>like they were just it was a you paid hand

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 4>written letter just going off about that, being like you

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 4>want to be transgender, but you're not going to be vegan,

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 4>Like you're a hypocrite, and it's funny.

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>So I want to well, so I want to talk

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>about a few things. Well, I guess what initially made

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you excited about being able to go on the news

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and tell your story and then how did how did

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the outcome of that not match up to your expectations?

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 4>So, like I I was decended to be on NBC

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 4>because like, you know, like you're to a normal, average person, like,

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I'm going to be in the news,

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 4>Like that's so cool. They're writing a little documentary about me,

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, that's why. Like I'm sure so many

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 4>people will go that way about being on the news

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 4>things like that. Everybody kind of likes attention. I also

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 4>just like to be able to tell my story, I guess,

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 4>to inform people about this. It's just a cool thing.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 4>But what made me really hate it is that like

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 4>I feel like NBC like or I don't know, I

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 4>don't know how it works, but the people who uploaded

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 4>it NBC, I feel like after they uploaded it and

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 4>like they got all their clout and things like that,

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 4>they just like didn't support me at all. They were

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 4>just like okay, bye, like thank you for.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 3>The the video.

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>What kind of support were you looking for from them?

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 4>So, like I don't know how to describe it. Like

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 4>so like, for example, in the documentary, a big part

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 4>of it was that I was supposed to go to

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 4>school in New York. I was supposed to go to

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 4>school in New York and I was still ted go

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 4>to school, and that's what they were interviewing me about there,

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 4>like yo, You're finally going to get out of Florida.

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 4>But then a couple of weeks before I was supposed

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 4>to leave, I was like, damn, I actually can't afford

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 4>this and I have to stay in Florida. And then

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 4>I reached out to NBC. I was like hey, like hey, like,

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry, Like I know you guys just did

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 4>a whole documentary about this, and but like I can't

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 4>go to New York. Like do you guys have any

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 4>scholarships available or anything that I can apply for it.

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 4>You're like no, sorry, but good luck. Like I just

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 4>felt a little used by that, you know. And then

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 4>after that they were like, oh, actually, can you send

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 4>us a video of you talking about how you can't

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 4>go to New York anymore? And I was like, oh,

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 4>feels a little exploitive.

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>So were you happy at all with like how the

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>peace came out? Do you feel like it was reflective

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>of what you wanted to say?

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Totally, totally. There were some angles when I look ugly,

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 4>but like you can't control all that, you know, Like

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 4>it's cool, it was nice.

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Nice, So tell me, so what I mean, what is

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the story that that you wanted to tell. What's the like,

0:32:55.600 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>did you you you are going to school? You're you

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>just graduated high school?

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I'm in college now, and and.

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>You're in college in Florida or in New York. In

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Florida now okay. And the idea was that you were

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.719
<v Speaker 1>going to try to leave Florida to go to New York.

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that was leaving Florida. Like I was accepted

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 4>to the college and everything, but then, like I guess,

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 4>like a couple of miscalculations on the college's part. They

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 4>told me they're in state tuition, but I'm an out

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 4>of state tuition person, and so it was much more expensive.

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 4>And they just told me that like a couple of

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 4>weeks before.

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Us with to leave.

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Things like that.

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what's up. How you doing?

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm chilling.

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 4>That was just a ram rant, a random rant. Win.

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 4>I didn't really I was scared. I didn't know what

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 4>to talk to you about.

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>That's fine, that's okay. Uh hmmm, are you like so

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>your freshman? Well, we're I mean, are you what do

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>you go to school for?

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking about doing finance. Kind of boring, but I

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 4>think I'm gonna do financial accounting or something like that.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. So are you still dealing with like, are

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>people harassing you because of the interview?

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 4>Not really, honestly, No, It's just that it's just that

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 4>one person who keeps like sending me letters.

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 3>It's so weird.

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 4>I wish I could show them to you. They're still

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 4>fucking weird.

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Well, how they find your address.

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 4>But and the thing is that I've moved houses and

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 4>they keep sending it to my old house. But then

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 4>I get forward to here because they don't know my

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 4>address really, but I don't know how they found out

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 4>my years to address as well.

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh uh Okay, So I mean, are you well,

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you're freshmen and it's what they what yours? Oh, you're

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>like an incoming You're like a new freshman in college.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:40.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>How's like, are you making friends? Are you enjoying life?

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's okay, Like all this is hard, and

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of pressure on an eighteen year old

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 4>to decide what they want to do for like the

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 4>rest of the next seventy years other life, I'm telling

0:34:58.400 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 4>I guess.

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, you're not really well you're not really I mean,

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I don't want to go on

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>my college rant for the eight hundred thousandth time. But

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not really like, you're not really making like a

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>crazy big decision, unless if you're taking out a whole

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>bunch of debt to be there.

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, the thing is, it's the opposite situation.

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 4>I have a scholarship out here where it'll pay for

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent of my college only in Florida. Right,

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 4>I'll say for one hundred percent of its only in Florida. Beautiful, Like,

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 4>that's literally the most beautiful offer ever. But it's making

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 4>me out because it's like, what if I go through

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 4>my four years of college and then decide, oh, fuck

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 4>the thing that I've been studying I actually don't want

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 4>to do at end? Boom, I just wasted like four

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 4>years of free college.

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what you do, you uh, spend the

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>next fifty eight years of your life doing whatever you

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 1>actually want to do.

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but then what if that requires going back to

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 4>college and I gotta fucking go into debt?

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 1>What well, what would you have to what what would

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to do that requires going back in college?

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Because if you get your undergraduate degree right and then

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.280
<v Speaker 1>you decide, oh, I actually want to go to medical school,

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>or I want to go to this, or I want

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to go to that, like, you still have a leg

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>up because you have your undergraduate degree.

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Right right, I'll be making money even if I don't

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 4>want to do it, and then I could use that

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 4>money to go back to college.

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're not. There's no like, yeah, sure, you go

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to school and you're like, oh, I don't actually like finance.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>But you're twenty two. You if you have fifty eight

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're lucky, you've got to have fifty eight years

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>left until you die, and whatever you do with that

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>time is up to you. So you're you'll be fine.

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's cool. Well yeah, but also, I mean

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 1>you'd be more fucked if you were going to debt.

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>The fact that you're not going to debt makes you

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>less fucked.

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 4>So it is a little less stressful, I guess in

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.320
<v Speaker 4>a way, because like then I wouldn't be I'm not

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 4>taking on debt right now, you know.

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh no, if you can go to college for free,

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>go to college for free, it would only be a

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>huge waste of time and money. If you were going

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>into debt, so you're gonna.

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Be yeah, yeah, all right, all right, all right, right,

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 4>you sound a lot different on the phone.

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting that people I sound I have a phony

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:11.760
<v Speaker 1>phone voice.

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 4>It's not even a phone voice. It's like it sounds

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 4>so staticky.

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Mina, Yeah, Nina, Well, Mina, thanks for calling in. I

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if any of this conversation.

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 4>Was conversation was boring. I don't know.

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's not that it was boring. Well, was

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>there anything else you wanted to say before we go

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>or talk about? I just wanted to give you the.

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily all right, Yeah, you're.

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Not fucked, don't worry about it. The fact that you

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>got to go to school for free is great. I

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>only hate college when it's like you spend a ship

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>ton of because yeah, if you're if you're debt free

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and you have like I don't know, I don't know

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>if you have anything saved or you're at at least

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>you're at zero and not negative, you're not fucked. So

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should like go to college for

0:37:58.680 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I went to college for film.

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 4>Mmm.

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, that's so, yes, it's fine.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 4>And my boyfriend if he kind of kind of want

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 4>to go to college.

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>For so, okay, well tell them not to go into

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>debt to do it. Okay, all right, take care of

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 1>did all right?

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Bye?

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Bye?

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Hello?

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Hi? Hi?

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>What is your name? My name is Natalie, Natalie. What's up? Natalie?

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 3>Hi? So this is kind of crazy. I've been listening

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 3>to you for like years, so the fact that I

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 3>got on, I've been calling so many times over the

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 3>past few years. So thank you for taking it.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for calling. I'm still pretty I feel

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>very honored that after all this time people, I'm still

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>getting to talk to new people. So I'm glad to

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>be chatting with you too, my friend. What's up?

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 3>So, I'm kind of trying to call you because I've

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.320
<v Speaker 3>been trying to get into I'm applaying for grad school

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 3>right now, and I honestly just don't know if it's

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 3>worth it anymore. I do need your advice.

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll try my best. What are you applying for.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:11.760
<v Speaker 3>English?

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm okay, what do you want to

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>do with your life?

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 3>I want to be a professor, so it's like very niche,

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 3>but you know, I want to get my PhD. And

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm just barely getting my bachelor's, so it's like pretty intense.

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you need to get your master's? And do you

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>need to go to grad school for English to be

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a professor?

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<v Speaker 3>Basically yeah, because I kind of want to do community

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 3>college professor because I live in California, so the community

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 3>college system is pretty good. But I basically need a

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:46.760
<v Speaker 3>PhD to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So why are you on the fence about it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'm like ready, I guess I

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.399
<v Speaker 3>don't want to take a gap year, but I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I asked it for professor basically for a letter

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 3>of recommendation the other day, and they said, while I

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 3>did great, that they just think I should broaden my horizons.

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Basically what they didn't want to give you a letter

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>of recommendation.

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they basically said, oh, you should try applying to

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 3>other places, but I didn't specify that. I'm just trying

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 3>to come back to our university. But they bless you.

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, not.

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Fuck them cold as hell? Not that's cold. No, that's cold.

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.720
<v Speaker 1>That's annoying. No, that's annoying. I'm sorry, that's fucking annoying.

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.919
<v Speaker 1>That's cold. Let's write a letter of recommendation. Jesus Christ.

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Nobody is anyone whoever their professor is is. I really think, uh,

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:42.439
<v Speaker 1>something's going to get back to them, like, oh, she's

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>not going to do well. It's going to reflect poorly

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>on me.

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I was like, dude, if I'm asking you for it,

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 3>but you think it's not a good choice, like, that's

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 3>on me for asking you. I guess, just just say

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to write it. Don't give me this

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 3>long ass email excuse. Just say you don't want to

0:40:59.239 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 3>write it.

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:04.399
<v Speaker 1>That's a chowd move, I think. But anyway, so whatever,

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>who cares?

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Like, what do you want to fucking do?

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I want to become a doctor, like

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 3>have my doctorate because I'm the first of my family

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 3>to go to college. So it's just pretty intense in

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 3>that way.

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>While you okay, so I mean you want to be

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>an English professor, and I still hold on I Natalie

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>is your name, yes, Natalie. I still don't understand why

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to go. You've said that this is

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 1>what you want to do.

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I was just talking to two of my

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 3>friends right before this. I think about it. I think

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 3>it's just that I'm scared that I feel like, what

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 3>if I fail?

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:53.280
<v Speaker 1>What if you fail?

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 3>What if I fail?

0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>What if you like if you get bad grades or

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 1>just I.

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Don't even know, or I think I'm also scared of

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 3>the rejection letters that like what if I don't get

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 3>into anywhere, because I'm being kind of selective with them.

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 3>So I think I'm just more about the fact that

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 3>I could get told no, like the professor. That's what

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 3>me know.

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but what I mean, what's the alternative is just

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to do anything.

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 3>I guess, I don't know, take a gap year, become

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 3>like a freaking Starbucks manager. I don't know, dude, I.

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Mean, you can take a gap here and become a

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>freaking Starbucks manager.

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's true. I don't know. I think I've just

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 3>been I've been listening to your podcast a lot lately,

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 3>and I've been hearing you talk about life and about

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 3>how you've been like kind of on the fence about it,

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 3>and and just in general, like why are we here?

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 3>And I feel like that's kind of where I'm getting at,

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Like where why am I? What am I doing with

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 3>my life?

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 4>Really?

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm twenty two. I don't know. Dude, Like I feel

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 3>like I'm kind of behind.

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, what do we do with what? I've been

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this a lot? And maybe this is just

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>like a like like a YouTube motivational thing. But well,

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I think I have it. Like, there

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>is a privilege in struggling with what you want to

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>do with your life. There's an achievement in that, right

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>because you're not you have enough. You can eat food

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and drink water and live in a place and as

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and as a result of that, you get to move

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>on to the next level, which is what do I

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>want to do with my life? So that's a good

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>thing off the bat, you know, that's a nice that's

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>a nice position to be in.

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that's true. That's a good way to look

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 3>at it.

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, what do you do The whole thing

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of like you're afraid that you're going to get rejected,

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>is that's a dumb reason not to do something that

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 1>you want to do.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 3>That's true. That is very that's very true.

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, there's a lot, there's a lot of Uh,

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a smart reason to not want to go to grad

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>school is because, uh, you don't want to do it,

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and like your parents are telling you that you should

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>do it or like you think you have to.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, that's not bad. That would be different. Thing

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 3>is also money, but you know, usually those are funded.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, that's why I'm going into the PhD

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 3>and not masters first, because masters are not usually funded.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to go into Are you going? Are

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:40.919
<v Speaker 1>you taking out loans and ship?

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've already taken out a couple of loans from

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 3>my bachelor's which is, oh, fuck hurting.

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you're going to take out more loans?

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And I have Like so I guess that's another

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 3>thing is like the money. I'm already probably like twenty

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 3>thirty k that overall, which hurts.

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 1>And then how much that would you be in after

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you graduate from grad school?

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 3>If I got into a master's program, that could be

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 3>an additional thirty thousand if it was a PhD. Like

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:12.840
<v Speaker 3>I said, those are usually get funded, so it wouldn't

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:14.840
<v Speaker 3>be as much money, but it would still be a

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:15.399
<v Speaker 3>good chunk.

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And then what do you then? And then the

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>only thing you the main thing you want to do

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:25.320
<v Speaker 1>is be an English professor.

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is pretty much like the goal for me

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 3>because I want to give back to like my community

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 3>college that I came from.

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, uh, look, I don't hate it. I don't hate

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:40.479
<v Speaker 1>the plan. I don't hate the plan. Yeah, the plan.

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm anti debt in general, but like for some shit

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like this where you have to have a degree to

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>be a professor, I don't think that that's a horrible

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:53.720
<v Speaker 1>amount of debt, especially if this is like the career

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 1>you want to get into for you know, a long

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>period of time.

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 3>So that's true.

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I really feel I always feel funny on this show

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 1>when I play pretend guidance counselor.

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean are hearing because it's just hearing you

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 3>talk about it kind of helps me talk through it.

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I guess, Okay, good cool lately, Yeah, because I mean

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm reading the chat. Should but I know that I

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 3>don't need a degree to give back to the community necessarily.

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Too. There's that too. If you just want to give

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 1>back to the community, I mean, you can do that

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 1>in a billion different ways. Yeah. So I'm gonna just

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 1>here's what I'm gonna use my official stance upon this. Okay,

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>let me give you my official fucking geck laydown, all right,

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:49.439
<v Speaker 1>you you're afraid of failure, but it doesn't really matter

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>because you should just go for it, and then if

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you get accepted into these schools, then greats. And you

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>can use that as your vessel for giving back to

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the community. Okay, but if you don't, you don't have

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to cry and be like, oh my god, I can

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.800
<v Speaker 1>never do anything ever in my life is over. You

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>can just be like, all right, how are the some

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.800
<v Speaker 1>other ways that I can give back to my community?

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, so you're gonna no matter what you will,

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>if your goal is that you want to get back

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to the community, you can do that forever, and you

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>can do that until you're dead. So don't don't freak

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>out about it.

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point. I didn't think about it. Leave

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 3>that nice.

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I've been drinking so much. I'm gonna get

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna Can I use some of your call time

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to give a free advertisement?

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Please do? I would love that.

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give a free advertise. We do a

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of paid advertisements on this show, but I'm going

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to do a free one for diet Mountain Dew, just

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>so everyone knows. I was into it way before the

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>vice president guys were It's great. It's got ninety one

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>milligrams of caffeine, which is like, normally I'll drink if

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 1>celsius and that'll give me diarrhea for the whole day.

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But this one, it's just this. It's a cup of coffee.

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.320
<v Speaker 1>That's good. It makes me feel good. I want I

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 1>think more people. No, well, because I only drink the

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 1>diet one. Although there does exist zero, there exists, Bro,

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:29.919
<v Speaker 1>there's a diet Baha blo. There's actually not a diet

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Baha Blast. There's it's very specific. It's Baja blast zero sugar.

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's yeah, that's true.

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:38.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no no.

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Your pause of confusion is not lost upon me, because

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 1>there's there's also diet mountain dew. There's diet mountain dew

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and mountain dew zero sugar. I don't know what the

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>fucking difference is between those, And there's like pepsi zero sugar.

0:48:56.040 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>There's pepsi zero and like what are they're all the

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>same fucking I don't know what the difference between the

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>diet and the zero sugar. But anyway, I actually do

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>know the difference. If you're curious, Yeah, I am curious.

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:12.439
<v Speaker 3>What is it? I was just talking to someone about

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 3>this yesterday. Diet drinks. I don't know what the actual

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 3>difference differences, but I know the difference and tastes. The

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.440
<v Speaker 3>difference of diet drinks is there less serrupy and the

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 3>zero ones taste more like the actual regular drink, you.

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Know, Natalie, If I could, I'd just give you a

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 1>PhD right now for having explained that I'm endowed by

0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>no legitimate education board. Unfortunately. Is there anything else do

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to say to the people of the computer

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 1>before we go?

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 3>No, just keep on keeping on. I appreciate you taking

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:47.479
<v Speaker 3>my call again, Lyle. It's been a long time coming.

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 3>And I hope I can go to your live show

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 3>in La Oh.

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:52.919
<v Speaker 1>Shit, yeah, yeah, come through. It'll be a good time.

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 3>So that's a plug for you right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful, beautiful November. That's November ninth. Yes, there's a small

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 1>handful of tickets left if anyone wants to come. Therapy

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>getotour dot com all right by Natalie by Lyle. Oh

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, it's I love I love a diet Mountain dew.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>It's so good, it's so good. I don't know, dude,

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what anyone should do with their life.

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know. Maybe I know things. I'm

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to. I'm trying this. It feels like such a

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking douchebag, but I'm trying to. I feel like I

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:40.360
<v Speaker 1>know a little bit. I don't know everything, but like something,

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.240
<v Speaker 1>you just I think deep. I think I know some things,

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 1>but I'm always like I'm a piece of ship. I

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything. But then I'll like see some kid

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok or YouTube, and I'll see them talking like

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>with authority, like they know things. They're not like saying

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I suck every two seconds and I don't know anything.

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>They're like talking as if they know stuff, And I'm like, well,

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that guy's fucking on TikTok talking about like he knows things.

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<v Speaker 1>People listen to my stuff. I know stuff. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I know a couple of things. I don't know everything. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a piece of shit. I don't know anything. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know any Maybe I know I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel I know a few Here's what I'll settle on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know a few things. I certainly feel

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<v Speaker 1>as though I have lived, experience experience, but as we all,

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<v Speaker 1>as every person alive does. I have thoughts, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just pale in comparison to the everything that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think everyone has the same amount of like

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<v Speaker 1>lived experience. I guess everyone of every age maybe, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not really like a quo like I.

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<v Speaker 1>We're sort of living in this like collective conscious. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's very when you try to like compare the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of things you know to the amount of things somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else's know knows You're it's apples and oranges. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>two different things. You know, They're part of a different

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<v Speaker 1>collective thing. See that right there? Just what did I

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<v Speaker 1>just say? I said they're part of a different collective thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That part didn't. I had me and then I lost

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<v Speaker 1>me when I said that phrase.

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<v Speaker 3>Just now.

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes I wonder if I can do a whole

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<v Speaker 1>podcast of just ranting into a microphone, no callers. Just

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote that down in my notes at I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>try to do it. I was, that's one of my

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<v Speaker 1>future goals. I want to do one of these podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>no calls, just ranting, the entire forty forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of ranting. Mark Marin does it. He opens every one

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<v Speaker 1>of his podcasts by just ranting for like by himself

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<v Speaker 1>twelve minutes. I could do that. I could do that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I could keep this post call thought going

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<v Speaker 1>for another forty minutes. This is all sponsored by Mountain

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<v Speaker 1>Die Mountain Dew. The ninety one milligrams of caffeine in

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<v Speaker 1>Die Mountain Dew is what is allowing me to continue

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<v Speaker 1>talking for this long. So yeah, maybe I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do that right now, although this has

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<v Speaker 1>been a long post call thought, and I could keep

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<v Speaker 1>going for an hour, but I don't want to. But

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<v Speaker 1>part of me wants to know. I'm not gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it right now. I'm gonna if when I do that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a conceited it's gonna be a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna sit down knowing that's what I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to do. I'm not gonna do it spontaneously, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to move on or else I'm gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>going again.

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<v Speaker 3>Goes on the line, taking your calls every nine never again.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes to teaching to be a line expect