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Speaker 1: Hi. What's your name?

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Speaker 2: My name is Let's go with Dave.

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Speaker 1: Dave. What's up, Dave? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. I'm just hanging out waiting by

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Speaker 2: my window because I'm getting an important package today. But

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Speaker 2: my apartment doesn't have a buzzer, so he's hanging out

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Speaker 2: waiting for the mailman.

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Speaker 1: And if you're like a wife at the pier waiting

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Speaker 1: for her sailor husband to return to.

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Speaker 2: Her, yeah, it feels very wistful, kind of like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, may that. May I ask what's in the

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Speaker 1: package that you're waiting for?

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Speaker 2: It is the title to my car because it's it

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Speaker 2: was my parents' carbet we're transferring it, but they live

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Speaker 2: out of state, so just hanging out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's nice. That's quite an adult because I remember

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Speaker 1: when I was a kid and I was waiting for package,

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Speaker 1: it was usually like a toy or a game or something.

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Speaker 1: And now where now that we're old, we're waiting for

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Speaker 1: the title to our car, which is and we're just

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Speaker 1: as excited because it feels good to complete the navigation

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Speaker 1: of bureaucracy in a competent way. Yes, hopefully it's well, Weave, Dave,

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Speaker 1: I assume that, and by the way, totally fine if

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Speaker 1: it was. But is there a particular thing that you

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Speaker 1: called in to want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've been watching your show for a while

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Speaker 2: and I feel like over the months there have been

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Speaker 2: different things that I've wanted to call in for, but

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Speaker 2: at this stage in my life, like it's it's I

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Speaker 2: don't know this the past couple of months, it's been

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Speaker 2: a lot of changes, new job, just feeling different in general.

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Speaker 2: At my previous job, I was super underworked, which was

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Speaker 2: like a weird feeling. I wanted to tell him about

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Speaker 2: that before.

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Speaker 1: You were feeling underworked? Yes, what what was that job?

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Speaker 2: I was doing? Like events for a nonprofit?

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Speaker 1: Okay, how many events does a nonprofit have per quarter?

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Speaker 2: Like you could do? Probably you could. You could do

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Speaker 2: one a week if you wanted to, but you I

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Speaker 2: wanted to have weekends. Like yeah, it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: You okay, all right? So over the huh See, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like you had a lot of things that were

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Speaker 1: stressing you out, but now this happens to sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: like you have a lot of things that are stressing

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Speaker 1: you out, but then you let a little bit of

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Speaker 1: time pass and then you realize that it fucking didn't

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Speaker 1: matter at all. You know you were gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: Is that what's happening right now? Or am I making

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Speaker 1: an a leap?

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Speaker 2: I guess you could say that somewhat of a leap,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm still adjusting to my new situation and adjusting

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Speaker 2: to a new state. I've been here for a year.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: What's the new state?

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Speaker 2: Massachusetts?

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Speaker 1: Massachusetts? What you're doing in Massachusetts?

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Speaker 2: I'm living my life, just walking around and walking in

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Speaker 2: the woods and cooking. Learned how to cook mochi the

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Speaker 1: That's great, that's good.

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Speaker 2: I'm not being a get go.

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Speaker 1: What what are you is the adjustment? What are you

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Speaker 2: You can't always say that's what's weird.

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Speaker 2: When you start a new grade or a new school

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Speaker 2: when you're growing up, it's it's very clear what there

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Speaker 2: is that you need to adjust to your like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel this way because I need friends, or I

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Speaker 2: feel which if it's like all of the above, and

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Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of hard to pinpoint one thing.

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Speaker 2: But I switched over to a new job that I

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Speaker 2: like more so that helped I've made a few friends now,

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Speaker 1: How old are.

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Speaker 2: You I just turned twenty four?

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Speaker 1: Very cool? Yeah, that's good. Friends are the most important

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Speaker 1: thing in life. I do feel. I do feel friends

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Speaker 1: if you if you don't have friends. Nothing about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because not nothing.

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Speaker 1: What do you hold on when you so when you

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Speaker 1: what do you think about when you're thinking about that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I think do I need to

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Speaker 1: Oh that's an interesting question.

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Speaker 2: I feel like at this stage of life, since I'm

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Speaker 2: we hang out together every day. But I feel like

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Speaker 2: your communication style kind of evolves in tandem with one person.

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Speaker 2: If you're only hanging out with one person every day,

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Speaker 2: you don't get all the new ideas, Like you don't

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Speaker 2: get definite Yeah, like I want to hear people say

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Speaker 2: like interesting novel things to me that it's like, where

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Speaker 2: did you get that? I was talking with my one

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Speaker 2: of my new friends about this guy was friends with

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Speaker 3: These really all the time.

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Speaker 1: That is a really funny. So just I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: want to let you finish, but that's a really really

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Speaker 1: funny way to talk about wanting new friends, because there

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Speaker 1: is truth to its total. I absolutely want to be

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Speaker 1: around people who are saying interesting novel things. That's one

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Speaker 1: of the exciting things about being around new people. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: I like the way you phrased that, So go ahead.

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Speaker 1: You met somebody who's a conspiracy theorist.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was that was some friends I had. Well

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Speaker 2: I've met a few different conspiracy purities in my life.

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Speaker 1: But okay, so you just so, you just are hanging

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Speaker 2: M So, this is something I wanted to tell you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because it's I came up with this plot and I

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Speaker 2: call it like the old fashioned way of making friends, okay,

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Speaker 2: and it's you go to the bar once a week,

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Speaker 2: go to church or whatever religious organization you go to

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Speaker 2: once a week. Look at and that's the old that's

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Speaker 2: how they did it.

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Speaker 1: In the whenever the thing, look at this guy, look

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Speaker 1: at this guy, he has a plan. This guy is

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Speaker 1: I did not.

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Speaker 2: I came up with that like a year ago and

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Speaker 2: I never really followed through.

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Speaker 1: No, that's a great plan. I like that plan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean the gym.

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Speaker 1: The gym, well, I mean the gym's the gym is

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Speaker 1: not I've never particularly saw saw the gym as a

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Speaker 1: You could do like there's you know, classes, or like

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Speaker 1: physical activity, right, like do a fucking soccer or whatever

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Speaker 1: You know. I like that plan. You go to the

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Speaker 1: the fucking other one though? Uh, the bar, go to

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I don't know how to approach strangers.

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Speaker 2: I stopped. Yeah, it was like the friendly kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like my whole thing was I got so.

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Speaker 2: I studied sociology in college, among other things, but I

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Speaker 1: You would ask people multiple choice questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like what I did during lunch every day.

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Speaker 1: What kind of like just for fun, Like this wasn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, questions.

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Speaker 2: It was like, I mean, one of them it was

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Speaker 1: Or some of them would be effect Was this effective

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Speaker 2: I think I did. I think people saw me. I

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Speaker 1: And then you tried this again in college and people

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Speaker 2: Oh I didn't. I didn't do that in college.

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Speaker 1: But but you, but you alluded to that you said

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just like saying hi to everyone you pass and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I learned that.

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Speaker 1: So if someone could you imagine that guy where like

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Speaker 1: that guy. That's not Yeah even if that, even if

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Speaker 2: You know. See, I've noticed I have less social anxiety

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Speaker 2: just walking around in the mornings here and then because

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Speaker 2: watch and like I went to Mexico recently and you

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Speaker 2: have good morning, good afternoon, good evening, all in your toolbox.

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Speaker 2: You say good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: What's good? Buenos dias, buenos tardes, buenos nochez.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very reassuring. And one time I said all

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Speaker 2: should start those three you should.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you should start just around your around uh Boston,

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Speaker 1: being just saying buenos to people and see what happens.

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Speaker 1: That could be kind of fun Yeah, that is that

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Speaker 1: about myself for the quota. I was trying to hit

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Speaker 1: go ahead, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

441
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Speaker 4: Because so you were interviewed by Vice and all that.

442
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: I haven't gotten around to watching it, but I was

443
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Speaker 4: recently interviewed by NBC, and I just want to know

444
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: how did you feel after being interviewed after after an

445
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: air and shit, because me personally, like I was so

446
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 4: excited in the moment, I was like telling my story

447
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: and things, and then as soon as it came out,

448
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: like I hate.

449
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Speaker 2: This so much.

450
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: Something.

451
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Speaker 4: How do you say about like your documentary, your experience

452
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Speaker 4: with Essa.

453
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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't like it, but oh but as nothing.

454
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: By the way, just as I want to make it

455
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Speaker 1: very clear, it has nothing to do with Vice themselves

456
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Speaker 1: or the people that were making their documentary. They were

457
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: very lovely, they were very lovely. I just want to

458
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Speaker 1: make that very clear. It has to do with I

459
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: didn't like it because it kept I because it here's

460
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Speaker 1: what I feel like, it captured, you know, truthful elements

461
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Speaker 1: of my life, and I did not like those elements,

462
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: not because of anything with doc itself. It's just it

463
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Speaker 1: like basically captured and it maybe like look in a mirror,

464
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: you know I and I didn't like, right, So that's

465
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Speaker 1: that's how I feel. But what were you interviewed about?

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Speaker 4: Because so I live in Florida, and you know, we

467
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: all love Florida so much, and I'm a trans woman

468
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: and I just graduated high school and basically I got

469
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 4: suspend it for using the women's back around my school.

470
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to get a political anything. I'm

471
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: talking what it's about. And so they were interviewing me

472
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Speaker 4: and a couple of other students about that, about our

473
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: experience as trans students and Florida and stuff like that.

474
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Speaker 4: And I was excited to tell my story because you know,

475
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: like there's a lot of people out there who need

476
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: to know about Florida and shing like that. But as

477
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: soon as they came out, I regretted it so much

478
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 4: because one like something crazy that I did not expect

479
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: is that I think getting handwritten letters to my house

480
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: from the same person, just like schizophrenic writing, and it's crazy.

481
00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: It's insane. Bro.

482
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean yeah, I mean going on the news

483
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: and talking about something like that. I mean you totally,

484
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Speaker 1: it's it's you know.

485
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Speaker 4: No, I can't touch bro, like I listen, I don't understand.

486
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: I understand I'm obviously gonna get hate in shit. But

487
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: the letters that I have gotten. The letter I got

488
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: was this person talking about veganism and they were telling

489
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: me that I need to go vegan or I need

490
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 4: to repent for my sins because I'm not vegan, and

491
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 4: like they were just it was a you paid hand

492
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: written letter just going off about that, being like you

493
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: want to be transgender, but you're not going to be vegan,

494
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 4: Like you're a hypocrite, and it's funny.

495
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Speaker 1: So I want to well, so I want to talk

496
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Speaker 1: about a few things. Well, I guess what initially made

497
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: you excited about being able to go on the news

498
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: and tell your story and then how did how did

499
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Speaker 1: the outcome of that not match up to your expectations?

500
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Speaker 4: So, like I I was decended to be on NBC

501
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: because like, you know, like you're to a normal, average person, like,

502
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm going to be in the news,

503
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: Like that's so cool. They're writing a little documentary about me,

504
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: Like you know, that's why. Like I'm sure so many

505
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: people will go that way about being on the news

506
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: things like that. Everybody kind of likes attention. I also

507
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: just like to be able to tell my story, I guess,

508
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: to inform people about this. It's just a cool thing.

509
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: But what made me really hate it is that like

510
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: I feel like NBC like or I don't know, I

511
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: don't know how it works, but the people who uploaded

512
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 4: it NBC, I feel like after they uploaded it and

513
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: like they got all their clout and things like that,

514
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: they just like didn't support me at all. They were

515
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: just like okay, bye, like thank you for.

516
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: The the video.

517
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Speaker 1: What kind of support were you looking for from them?

518
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: So, like I don't know how to describe it. Like

519
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: so like, for example, in the documentary, a big part

520
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: of it was that I was supposed to go to

521
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: school in New York. I was supposed to go to

522
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Speaker 4: school in New York and I was still ted go

523
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: to school, and that's what they were interviewing me about there,

524
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: like yo, You're finally going to get out of Florida.

525
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: But then a couple of weeks before I was supposed

526
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: to leave, I was like, damn, I actually can't afford

527
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: this and I have to stay in Florida. And then

528
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: I reached out to NBC. I was like hey, like hey, like,

529
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, Like I know you guys just did

530
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: a whole documentary about this, and but like I can't

531
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Speaker 4: go to New York. Like do you guys have any

532
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: scholarships available or anything that I can apply for it.

533
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: You're like no, sorry, but good luck. Like I just

534
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: felt a little used by that, you know. And then

535
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: after that they were like, oh, actually, can you send

536
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: us a video of you talking about how you can't

537
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 4: go to New York anymore? And I was like, oh,

538
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: feels a little exploitive.

539
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: So were you happy at all with like how the

540
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: peace came out? Do you feel like it was reflective

541
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: of what you wanted to say?

542
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

543
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: Totally, totally. There were some angles when I look ugly,

544
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: but like you can't control all that, you know, Like

545
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: it's cool, it was nice.

546
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Nice, So tell me, so what I mean, what is

547
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: the story that that you wanted to tell. What's the like,

548
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: did you you you are going to school? You're you

549
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: just graduated high school?

550
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm in college now, and and.

551
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Speaker 1: You're in college in Florida or in New York. In

552
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: Florida now okay. And the idea was that you were

553
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: going to try to leave Florida to go to New York.

554
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was leaving Florida. Like I was accepted

555
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: to the college and everything, but then, like I guess,

556
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 4: like a couple of miscalculations on the college's part. They

557
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 4: told me they're in state tuition, but I'm an out

558
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: of state tuition person, and so it was much more expensive.

559
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: And they just told me that like a couple of

560
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: weeks before.

561
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Speaker 2: Us with to leave.

562
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 4: Things like that.

563
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so what's up. How you doing?

564
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: I'm chilling.

565
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: I don't know.

566
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 4: That was just a ram rant, a random rant. Win.

567
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: I didn't really I was scared. I didn't know what

568
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: to talk to you about.

569
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's okay. Uh hmmm, are you like so

570
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: your freshman? Well, we're I mean, are you what do

571
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: you go to school for?

572
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about doing finance. Kind of boring, but I

573
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: think I'm gonna do financial accounting or something like that.

574
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So are you still dealing with like, are

575
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: people harassing you because of the interview?

576
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: Not really, honestly, No, It's just that it's just that

577
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: one person who keeps like sending me letters.

578
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 3: It's so weird.

579
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: I wish I could show them to you. They're still

580
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: fucking weird.

581
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: Well, how they find your address.

582
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

583
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: But and the thing is that I've moved houses and

584
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 4: they keep sending it to my old house. But then

585
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: I get forward to here because they don't know my

586
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 4: address really, but I don't know how they found out

587
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: my years to address as well.

588
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: Uh huh uh Okay, So I mean, are you well,

589
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: you're freshmen and it's what they what yours? Oh, you're

590
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: like an incoming You're like a new freshman in college.

591
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

592
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: How's like, are you making friends? Are you enjoying life?

593
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's okay, Like all this is hard, and

594
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 4: there's a lot of pressure on an eighteen year old

595
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: to decide what they want to do for like the

596
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 4: rest of the next seventy years other life, I'm telling

597
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 4: I guess.

598
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you're not really well you're not really I mean,

599
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to go on

600
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: my college rant for the eight hundred thousandth time. But

601
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: you're not really like, you're not really making like a

602
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: crazy big decision, unless if you're taking out a whole

603
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: bunch of debt to be there.

604
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: Well, you know, the thing is, it's the opposite situation.

605
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 4: I have a scholarship out here where it'll pay for

606
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: one hundred percent of my college only in Florida. Right,

607
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: I'll say for one hundred percent of its only in Florida. Beautiful, Like,

608
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 4: that's literally the most beautiful offer ever. But it's making

609
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 4: me out because it's like, what if I go through

610
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: my four years of college and then decide, oh, fuck

611
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: the thing that I've been studying I actually don't want

612
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 4: to do at end? Boom, I just wasted like four

613
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 4: years of free college.

614
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

615
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you do, you uh, spend the

616
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: next fifty eight years of your life doing whatever you

617
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: actually want to do.

618
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then what if that requires going back to

619
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: college and I gotta fucking go into debt?

620
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: What well, what would you have to what what would

621
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: you have to do that requires going back in college?

622
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: Because if you get your undergraduate degree right and then

623
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: you decide, oh, I actually want to go to medical school,

624
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: or I want to go to this, or I want

625
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: to go to that, like, you still have a leg

626
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: up because you have your undergraduate degree.

627
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: Right right, I'll be making money even if I don't

628
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: want to do it, and then I could use that

629
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 4: money to go back to college.

630
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not. There's no like, yeah, sure, you go

631
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: to school and you're like, oh, I don't actually like finance.

632
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: But you're twenty two. You if you have fifty eight

633
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: if you're lucky, you've got to have fifty eight years

634
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: left until you die, and whatever you do with that

635
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: time is up to you. So you're you'll be fine.

636
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's cool. Well yeah, but also, I mean

637
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: you'd be more fucked if you were going to debt.

638
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: The fact that you're not going to debt makes you

639
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: less fucked.

640
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 4: So it is a little less stressful, I guess in

641
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: a way, because like then I wouldn't be I'm not

642
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 4: taking on debt right now, you know.

643
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, if you can go to college for free,

644
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: go to college for free, it would only be a

645
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: huge waste of time and money. If you were going

646
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: into debt, so you're gonna.

647
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 4: Be yeah, yeah, all right, all right, all right, right,

648
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: you sound a lot different on the phone.

649
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: That's interesting that people I sound I have a phony

650
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: phone voice.

651
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: It's not even a phone voice. It's like it sounds

652
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: so staticky.

653
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: Mina, Yeah, Nina, Well, Mina, thanks for calling in. I

654
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: don't know if any of this conversation.

655
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: Was conversation was boring. I don't know.

656
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: No, no, it's not that it was boring. Well, was

657
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: there anything else you wanted to say before we go

658
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: or talk about? I just wanted to give you the.

659
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: Not necessarily all right, Yeah, you're.

660
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Speaker 1: Not fucked, don't worry about it. The fact that you

661
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: got to go to school for free is great. I

662
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: only hate college when it's like you spend a ship

663
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: ton of because yeah, if you're if you're debt free

664
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: and you have like I don't know, I don't know

665
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: if you have anything saved or you're at at least

666
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: you're at zero and not negative, you're not fucked. So

667
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't think you should like go to college for

668
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: I went to college for film.

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Speaker 4: Mmm.

670
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, that's so, yes, it's fine.

671
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 4: And my boyfriend if he kind of kind of want

672
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: to go to college.

673
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: For so, okay, well tell them not to go into

674
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: debt to do it. Okay, all right, take care of

675
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: did all right?

676
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: Bye?

677
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: Bye?

678
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: Hello?

679
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: Hi? Hi?

680
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: What is your name? My name is Natalie, Natalie. What's up? Natalie?

681
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: Hi? So this is kind of crazy. I've been listening

682
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: to you for like years, so the fact that I

683
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: got on, I've been calling so many times over the

684
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: past few years. So thank you for taking it.

685
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for calling. I'm still pretty I feel

686
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: very honored that after all this time people, I'm still

687
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: getting to talk to new people. So I'm glad to

688
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: be chatting with you too, my friend. What's up?

689
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: So, I'm kind of trying to call you because I've

690
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: been trying to get into I'm applaying for grad school

691
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: right now, and I honestly just don't know if it's

692
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: worth it anymore. I do need your advice.

693
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: I'll try my best. What are you applying for.

694
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 3: English?

695
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm okay, what do you want to

696
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: do with your life?

697
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 3: I want to be a professor, so it's like very niche,

698
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: but you know, I want to get my PhD. And

699
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 3: I'm just barely getting my bachelor's, so it's like pretty intense.

700
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: Do you need to get your master's? And do you

701
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: need to go to grad school for English to be

702
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: a professor?

703
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: Basically yeah, because I kind of want to do community

704
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: college professor because I live in California, so the community

705
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: college system is pretty good. But I basically need a

706
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 3: PhD to do anything.

707
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: So why are you on the fence about it?

708
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm like ready, I guess I

709
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 3: don't want to take a gap year, but I feel

710
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: like I asked it for professor basically for a letter

711
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: of recommendation the other day, and they said, while I

712
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: did great, that they just think I should broaden my horizons.

713
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: Basically what they didn't want to give you a letter

714
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: of recommendation.

715
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they basically said, oh, you should try applying to

716
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: other places, but I didn't specify that. I'm just trying

717
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: to come back to our university. But they bless you.

718
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: But I don't know, not.

719
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Speaker 1: Fuck them cold as hell? Not that's cold. No, that's cold.

720
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: That's annoying. No, that's annoying. I'm sorry, that's fucking annoying.

721
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: That's cold. Let's write a letter of recommendation. Jesus Christ.

722
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: Nobody is anyone whoever their professor is is. I really think, uh,

723
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: something's going to get back to them, like, oh, she's

724
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: not going to do well. It's going to reflect poorly

725
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Speaker 1: on me.

726
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Speaker 3: I was like, dude, if I'm asking you for it,

727
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: but you think it's not a good choice, like, that's

728
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: on me for asking you. I guess, just just say

729
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: you don't want to write it. Don't give me this

730
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: long ass email excuse. Just say you don't want to

731
00:40:59,239 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: write it.

732
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 4: Now.

733
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: That's a chowd move, I think. But anyway, so whatever,

734
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: who cares?

735
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: What?

736
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Like, what do you want to fucking do?

737
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I want to become a doctor, like

738
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: have my doctorate because I'm the first of my family

739
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: to go to college. So it's just pretty intense in

740
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: that way.

741
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: While you okay, so I mean you want to be

742
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: an English professor, and I still hold on I Natalie

743
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: is your name, yes, Natalie. I still don't understand why

744
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: you don't want to go. You've said that this is

745
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: what you want to do.

746
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: I think I was just talking to two of my

747
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 3: friends right before this. I think about it. I think

748
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: it's just that I'm scared that I feel like, what

749
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: if I fail?

750
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: What if you fail?

751
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: What if I fail?

752
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: What if you like if you get bad grades or

753
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: just I.

754
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: Don't even know, or I think I'm also scared of

755
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: the rejection letters that like what if I don't get

756
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 3: into anywhere, because I'm being kind of selective with them.

757
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: So I think I'm just more about the fact that

758
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: I could get told no, like the professor. That's what

759
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: me know.

760
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what I mean, what's the alternative is just

761
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: you're not going to do anything.

762
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know, take a gap year, become

763
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: like a freaking Starbucks manager. I don't know, dude, I.

764
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Mean, you can take a gap here and become a

765
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: freaking Starbucks manager.

766
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. I don't know. I think I've just

767
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: been I've been listening to your podcast a lot lately,

768
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: and I've been hearing you talk about life and about

769
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: how you've been like kind of on the fence about it,

770
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: and and just in general, like why are we here?

771
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's kind of where I'm getting at,

772
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: Like where why am I? What am I doing with

773
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: my life?

774
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 4: Really?

775
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: I'm twenty two. I don't know. Dude, Like I feel

776
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: like I'm kind of behind.

777
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, what do we do with what? I've been

778
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: thinking about this a lot? And maybe this is just

779
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: like a like like a YouTube motivational thing. But well,

780
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: first of all, I think I have it. Like, there

781
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: is a privilege in struggling with what you want to

782
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: do with your life. There's an achievement in that, right

783
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: because you're not you have enough. You can eat food

784
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: and drink water and live in a place and as

785
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: and as a result of that, you get to move

786
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: on to the next level, which is what do I

787
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: want to do with my life? So that's a good

788
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: thing off the bat, you know, that's a nice that's

789
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: a nice position to be in.

790
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: I think that's true. That's a good way to look

791
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: at it.

792
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: So, I mean, what do you do The whole thing

793
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: of like you're afraid that you're going to get rejected,

794
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: is that's a dumb reason not to do something that

795
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: you want to do.

796
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: That's true. That is very that's very true.

797
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there's a lot, there's a lot of Uh,

798
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: a smart reason to not want to go to grad

799
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: school is because, uh, you don't want to do it,

800
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: and like your parents are telling you that you should

801
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: do it or like you think you have to.

802
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: No, yeah, that's not bad. That would be different. Thing

803
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 3: is also money, but you know, usually those are funded.

804
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: So it's like, that's why I'm going into the PhD

805
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: and not masters first, because masters are not usually funded.

806
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to go into Are you going? Are

807
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 1: you taking out loans and ship?

808
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've already taken out a couple of loans from

809
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: my bachelor's which is, oh, fuck hurting.

810
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're going to take out more loans?

811
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? And I have Like so I guess that's another

812
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 3: thing is like the money. I'm already probably like twenty

813
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: thirty k that overall, which hurts.

814
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: And then how much that would you be in after

815
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: you graduate from grad school?

816
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: If I got into a master's program, that could be

817
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: an additional thirty thousand if it was a PhD. Like

818
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 3: I said, those are usually get funded, so it wouldn't

819
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: be as much money, but it would still be a

820
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 3: good chunk.

821
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: Okay, And then what do you then? And then the

822
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: only thing you the main thing you want to do

823
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: is be an English professor.

824
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is pretty much like the goal for me

825
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: because I want to give back to like my community

826
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: college that I came from.

827
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Okay, uh, look, I don't hate it. I don't hate

828
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 1: the plan. I don't hate the plan. Yeah, the plan.

829
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: I'm anti debt in general, but like for some shit

830
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: like this where you have to have a degree to

831
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: be a professor, I don't think that that's a horrible

832
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: amount of debt, especially if this is like the career

833
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: you want to get into for you know, a long

834
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: period of time.

835
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: So that's true.

836
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: I really feel I always feel funny on this show

837
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: when I play pretend guidance counselor.

838
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: No, I mean are hearing because it's just hearing you

839
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: talk about it kind of helps me talk through it.

840
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: I guess, Okay, good cool lately, Yeah, because I mean

841
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: I'm reading the chat. Should but I know that I

842
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: don't need a degree to give back to the community necessarily.

843
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: Too. There's that too. If you just want to give

844
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: back to the community, I mean, you can do that

845
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: in a billion different ways. Yeah. So I'm gonna just

846
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna use my official stance upon this. Okay,

847
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: let me give you my official fucking geck laydown, all right,

848
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: you you're afraid of failure, but it doesn't really matter

849
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: because you should just go for it, and then if

850
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: you get accepted into these schools, then greats. And you

851
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: can use that as your vessel for giving back to

852
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: the community. Okay, but if you don't, you don't have

853
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: to cry and be like, oh my god, I can

854
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: never do anything ever in my life is over. You

855
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: can just be like, all right, how are the some

856
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: other ways that I can give back to my community?

857
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: You know, so you're gonna no matter what you will,

858
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: if your goal is that you want to get back

859
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: to the community, you can do that forever, and you

860
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: can do that until you're dead. So don't don't freak

861
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: out about it.

862
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: That's a good point. I didn't think about it. Leave

863
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: that nice.

864
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: Oh man, I've been drinking so much. I'm gonna get

865
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Can I use some of your call time

866
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: to give a free advertisement?

867
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: Please do? I would love that.

868
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to give a free advertise. We do a

869
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: lot of paid advertisements on this show, but I'm going

870
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: to do a free one for diet Mountain Dew, just

871
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: so everyone knows. I was into it way before the

872
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: vice president guys were It's great. It's got ninety one

873
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: milligrams of caffeine, which is like, normally I'll drink if

874
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: celsius and that'll give me diarrhea for the whole day.

875
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: But this one, it's just this. It's a cup of coffee.

876
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Speaker 1: That's good. It makes me feel good. I want I

877
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: think more people. No, well, because I only drink the

878
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: diet one. Although there does exist zero, there exists, Bro,

879
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: there's a diet Baha blo. There's actually not a diet

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Speaker 1: Baha Blast. There's it's very specific. It's Baja blast zero sugar.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: Your pause of confusion is not lost upon me, because

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Speaker 1: there's there's also diet mountain dew. There's diet mountain dew

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Speaker 1: and mountain dew zero sugar. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: fucking difference is between those, And there's like pepsi zero sugar.

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Speaker 1: There's pepsi zero and like what are they're all the

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Speaker 1: same fucking I don't know what the difference between the

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Speaker 1: diet and the zero sugar. But anyway, I actually do

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Speaker 1: know the difference. If you're curious, Yeah, I am curious.

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Speaker 3: What is it? I was just talking to someone about

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Speaker 3: this yesterday. Diet drinks. I don't know what the actual

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Speaker 3: difference differences, but I know the difference and tastes. The

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Speaker 3: difference of diet drinks is there less serrupy and the

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Speaker 3: zero ones taste more like the actual regular drink, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Natalie, If I could, I'd just give you a

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Speaker 1: PhD right now for having explained that I'm endowed by

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Speaker 1: no legitimate education board. Unfortunately. Is there anything else do

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Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer

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Speaker 1: before we go?

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Speaker 3: No, just keep on keeping on. I appreciate you taking

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Speaker 3: my call again, Lyle. It's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 3: And I hope I can go to your live show

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Speaker 3: in La Oh.

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Speaker 1: Shit, yeah, yeah, come through. It'll be a good time.

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Speaker 3: So that's a plug for you right there.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, it's I love I love a diet Mountain dew.

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Speaker 1: It's so good, it's so good. I don't know, dude,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what anyone should do with their life.

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. Maybe I know things. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to. I'm trying this. It feels like such a

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Speaker 1: fucking douchebag, but I'm trying to. I feel like I

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Speaker 1: know a little bit. I don't know everything, but like something,

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Speaker 1: you just I think deep. I think I know some things,

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Speaker 1: but I'm always like I'm a piece of ship. I

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Speaker 1: don't know anything. But then I'll like see some kid

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Speaker 1: on TikTok or YouTube, and I'll see them talking like

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Speaker 1: with authority, like they know things. They're not like saying

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Speaker 1: I suck every two seconds and I don't know anything.

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Speaker 1: They're like talking as if they know stuff, And I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: that guy's fucking on TikTok talking about like he knows things.

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Speaker 1: People listen to my stuff. I know stuff. I think

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Speaker 1: I know a couple of things. I don't know everything. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm a piece of shit. I don't know anything. I

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Speaker 1: don't know any Maybe I know I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: feel I know a few Here's what I'll settle on.

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Speaker 1: I think I know a few things. I certainly feel

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Speaker 1: as though I have lived, experience experience, but as we all,

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Speaker 1: as every person alive does. I have thoughts, but they

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Speaker 1: just pale in comparison to the everything that I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And I think everyone has the same amount of like

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Speaker 1: lived experience. I guess everyone of every age maybe, But

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not really like a quo like I.

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Speaker 1: We're sort of living in this like collective conscious. So

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Speaker 1: it's very when you try to like compare the amount

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Speaker 1: of things you know to the amount of things somebody

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Speaker 1: else's know knows You're it's apples and oranges. Those are

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Speaker 1: two different things. You know, They're part of a different

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Speaker 1: collective thing. See that right there? Just what did I

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Speaker 1: just say? I said they're part of a different collective thing.

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Speaker 1: That part didn't. I had me and then I lost

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Speaker 1: me when I said that phrase.

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Speaker 3: Just now.

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Speaker 1: I sometimes I wonder if I can do a whole

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Speaker 1: podcast of just ranting into a microphone, no callers. Just

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Speaker 1: I wrote that down in my notes at I was like,

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Speaker 1: try to do it. I was, that's one of my

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Speaker 1: future goals. I want to do one of these podcasts,

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Speaker 1: no calls, just ranting, the entire forty forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: of ranting. Mark Marin does it. He opens every one

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Speaker 1: of his podcasts by just ranting for like by himself

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Speaker 1: twelve minutes. I could do that. I could do that

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Speaker 1: right now. I could keep this post call thought going

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Speaker 1: for another forty minutes. This is all sponsored by Mountain

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Speaker 1: Die Mountain Dew. The ninety one milligrams of caffeine in

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Speaker 1: Die Mountain Dew is what is allowing me to continue

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Speaker 1: talking for this long. So yeah, maybe I'll do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that right now, although this has

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Speaker 1: been a long post call thought, and I could keep

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Speaker 1: going for an hour, but I don't want to. But

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Speaker 1: part of me wants to know. I'm not gonna do

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Speaker 1: it right now. I'm gonna if when I do that,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a conceited it's gonna be a I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna sit down knowing that's what I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to do. I'm not gonna do it spontaneously, all right,

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Speaker 1: we have to move on or else I'm gonna keep

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Speaker 1: going again.

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Speaker 3: Goes on the line, taking your calls every nine never again.

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Speaker 1: Goes to teaching to be a line expect