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Speaker 1: All right, welcome on in Off the Edge with me,

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Speaker 1: Cam Jordans. I'm the host. I'm the solo.

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Speaker 2: Artist until I bring in you know, some friends later

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Speaker 2: like the greatest to ever lace them up and you

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Speaker 2: win a super Bowl in two thousand and nine, two

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Speaker 2: years before I got to the New Orleans Saints, Drew

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Speaker 2: Brees and Drew you know, Drew or die.

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Speaker 1: If there's a breeze, there's a way Drew Brees. That's

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Speaker 1: what we're bringing on later.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, we also want to you know, talk about

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Speaker 2: the you know, the CBS Content for Change, which is

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Speaker 2: a series that I hope you guys will be impacted

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Speaker 2: on not only how I'm using my platform to create

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Speaker 2: a positive change in the communities I'm in in New Orleans,

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Speaker 2: but as well as just think about how you can

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Speaker 2: be a positive impact as well. So we're gonna free flow.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have that thing going. So chap in with

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Speaker 2: me on Off the Edge with Cam Jordans. Make sure

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Speaker 2: your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, scoot off your seat just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Let's get off the edge, Cam Jay and talk about

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Speaker 2: just things happened across the league.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Kevin Bayard, which until we had the

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Speaker 2: same Pro Bowl, I kept calling Kevin Baird Beard Yard

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Speaker 2: Byard my guy. Kenny Vaccaro went from the Saints Tennessee

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Speaker 2: All Pro Pro Bowl safety Kevin b is now going

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Speaker 2: to the Philadelphia Eagles. Man, you got to you gotta remember,

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Speaker 2: like players are just commodities at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: like to be traded. All Pro guy, somebody who's been

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Speaker 2: now going to the Philadelphia Eagles, which have unlimited weapons

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Speaker 2: So one of the Edmund brothers is now going to

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Speaker 1: But Kevin Biard is now going to fired is going

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep messing up his name, and that is

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Speaker 2: disrespectful because that man is a dog. Hopefully he does

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Speaker 2: well in Philadelphia. I know the Philadelphia defensive stack. Continue

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Speaker 2: on right across the league. You're looking around, you see

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Speaker 2: you know, Monday Night football, Minnesota Vikings pull off a

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Speaker 2: another University of California product, Go Bears University California at

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Speaker 2: Berkeley if you need to know cal So. Now let's

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Speaker 2: just move on speaking of you know, just looking across

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Speaker 2: the league, can we just like take a second and

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Speaker 2: talk about what happened with Denver Broncos Kareem Jackson Reen

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Speaker 2: My dog has been a heavy hitter his whole career.

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Speaker 2: He's in year fourteen. He's still putting out hits. He hits,

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Speaker 2: are moving at their fastest meeting colliding. Can't you sort

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Speaker 2: of put that on part of the game. This game

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Speaker 1: What do you want him to do? Let him get

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Speaker 4: Your best defense is used to be the lesion of

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Speaker 2: Had Dante Hittner Navarro Bowlman, they had Patrick Willis that

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Speaker 3: Some of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Miles Garretts has been showing his tail off

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Speaker 2: this year, but he had two sacks, blocked a punt.

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Speaker 1: Bad at the past. What didn't he do this last week? Man?

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Speaker 2: He blocked a field goal. I mean, there just wasn't

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Speaker 1: That's how you see defenses take over.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm thinking, we're gonna have to talk about

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Speaker 2: We have to deliver the fight to them each and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna push that to the side right now simply

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Speaker 1: Let we talk about this podcast. You know, we're more

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Speaker 2: So the next segment, being the CBS Content for Change

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Speaker 2: November fifth on CBS on NFL Today.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's a great series.

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Speaker 2: Then you're gonna, you know, highlight the community work that

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Speaker 2: going to school visits, talking every Tuesday since I can

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Speaker 2: I grew up watching my father Steve Jordan Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 2: Like I want to see.

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Speaker 1: You be great.

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Speaker 2: I want you to you know, to I want you

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Speaker 1: If you're a B student, I want you to have a's.

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Speaker 2: He ended up getting invited him to the game, you know,

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Speaker 2: the saint set of phenomenal job and find them hooking

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Speaker 2: I'm not the guy for that, but they hooked him

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Speaker 2: Little brother looks just like him, you know, like it's

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Speaker 2: I look up to him. The world looks up to him.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's Drew's way. It just is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Nine six two thousand and six to twenty twenty fifteen

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Speaker 5: Jay, you make me feel good. Man, I missed you.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a hype I don't have a hype

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Speaker 3: You You and Mark Man y'all like my yell a,

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're my goat. You're my goat.

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Speaker 2: You know, like nobody in the history of the NFL

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Speaker 2: You know, now that you're retired, I can say these

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Speaker 3: You know, super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Should have We could have gone back to two or

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Speaker 3: Hey, I wouldn't. I wouldn't trade it. I wouldn't. I

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Speaker 5: Man, those those those fifteen years, and shoot, we had

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Speaker 3: We had ten seasons together camp man. Man, I mean

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Speaker 5: You came in as that that young pup, you know,

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Speaker 3: And now look at you like you're the old dog.

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Speaker 1: Man, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Who's who's who's your who's your you know, who's your jeweler,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some secrets that just you know, can't yeah, can't.

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Speaker 2: Give valve you know, absolutely but like I said, leaters

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Speaker 2: I call it Drew Orleans Ball.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, you.

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Speaker 2: Started that up a couple of years back. When did

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Speaker 5: I've coached just about all my boys, so let's see.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to believe too. My boys are now fourteen,

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Speaker 5: But it was one of those things where I just

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Speaker 3: But that's not the point. The point, I think for me.

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Speaker 5: And for you is football has meant so much in

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Speaker 5: We've developed so many traits, qualities, attributes as a result

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Speaker 3: And it's awesome, man, it's awesome, right.

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Speaker 2: It's like complete opposites and now like you know, you

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Speaker 5: Right, Like, you have a chance to go on and

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Speaker 3: Drew.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're timeless, but I'm saying, like you

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Speaker 2: are you are you? Are you still gonna try and

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Speaker 2: I seen Look, I just saw you. I just saw

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Speaker 1: I saw the heater. I saw the heater with the left.

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Speaker 5: Did you see how I was gonna say? You saw

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Speaker 5: it's so tamp.

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Speaker 1: I might change you.

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Speaker 2: This is about twenty twenty eight. Like I may lose

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Speaker 3: I would. I'm more so I think I've passed to

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, like your oldest kid will be like eighteen

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Speaker 3: Like we're we're here, We're here right about time.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I might I might have to hold it down

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Hey, treat treat me like Jimmy

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Speaker 5: nobody else around here in six seven to seventy.

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Speaker 2: I'm open, nobody, nobody. You know why I've never actually

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Speaker 2: asked you this question, because you know, I'm just thinking.

442
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking like draft comparables, because now I got I'm

443
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Speaker 2: thinking about my kids in the draft, your kids in

444
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Speaker 2: the draft. Every year they come out with like those comparables,

445
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Speaker 2: right the next Cam Jordan, the next you know, I

446
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Speaker 2: have not seen the next Drew Brees And is there one?

447
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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen somebody comparative? And I only bring

448
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Speaker 2: this up because Toron said too, is like the next

449
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Speaker 2: Drew Brees. Toront Armstead over in Miami was like, man,

450
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Speaker 2: he's got a lot of measurables, a lot of comparables

451
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Speaker 2: to Drew Brees.

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Speaker 1: And I said, huh okay.

453
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Speaker 5: Well, first off, everybody, and look, Sean Paige used to

454
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Speaker 5: say this all the time, like we sit around and

455
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Speaker 5: talk about personnel. You know, you're trying to see how

456
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Speaker 5: different guys fit into the system, whether it's offense or defense.

457
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Speaker 3: And look, we're all visual people and so if you

458
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Speaker 3: can anytime you can take.

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Speaker 5: Someone and give them a comparison, I think it just

460
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Speaker 5: gives you an immediate vision as to, oh, okay, like

461
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Speaker 5: now now I see how that guy fits through this

462
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Speaker 5: offense because I know the guy's feel set that you

463
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Speaker 5: were just talking about. If we're saying this guy can

464
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Speaker 5: eventually be that guy, all right, I've got a vision

465
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Speaker 5: for him. Right So, I think the first the first

466
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Speaker 5: thing I think of when somebody says like, oh, that's

467
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Speaker 5: a Drew Brees. First off, you're talking about a short quarterback, Like,

468
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Speaker 5: let's just be honest. You're you're talking about a guy who's, like,

469
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Speaker 5: you know, on the shorter side, right, so maybe part

470
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Speaker 5: of the six foot and underclub, like yours truly right here?

471
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Speaker 3: WHOA. But I admit it, bro, I appreciate that.

472
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Speaker 5: It's very But I like to think that we've changed

473
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Speaker 5: the perception or the misconception about the short quarterback right

474
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Speaker 5: like back when I was first coming into the league,

475
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Speaker 5: like that was a big deal.

476
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Speaker 3: Even ten years ago, that was a big deal.

477
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Speaker 5: I think enough has happened now where you see the

478
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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson's, the Kyler Murray's, the Baker mayfields, some of

479
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Speaker 5: these other guys now that are man, they're like six

480
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Speaker 5: foot six one, and I don't even it's not even

481
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Speaker 5: disgusted anymore. Like that used to be the first thing

482
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Speaker 5: out of somebody's mouth if they were trying to, you know,

483
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Speaker 5: talk bad about a kid coming out of eyes he's

484
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Speaker 5: only six foot Ever, nobody.

485
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Speaker 3: Says that anymore, Right, So, I think the game.

486
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Speaker 5: Has evolved and changed enough to where maybe that misconception's gone.

487
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Speaker 3: But then, like, let's look at the other things. Okay,

488
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Speaker 3: I was never.

489
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Speaker 5: The strongest armed guy, right, Like, I felt like I

490
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Speaker 5: could make all the throws, but I was forced to

491
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Speaker 5: throw with anticipation because it, you know, maybe I didn't

492
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Speaker 5: have as strong an arm as some of the other

493
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Speaker 5: guys in the league.

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Speaker 3: Well what is throwing with anticipation force you to do?

495
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Speaker 5: It forces you to be prepared and to be on

496
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Speaker 5: the same page with your receivers, to have incredible chemistry,

497
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Speaker 5: to know what the defense is because you've got to

498
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Speaker 5: know where defenders are and where they're not, because guess what,

499
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Speaker 5: you aren't always going to see those defenders, but you're

500
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Speaker 5: going to know the spot and you're gonna have to

501
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Speaker 5: trust that. I've always felt like accuracy is trust and anticipation, right,

502
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Speaker 5: trust to play, trust the coverage, trust the guy you're throwing,

503
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Speaker 5: to anticipate the throw, and the ball is where it

504
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Speaker 5: needs to be. And you've got to expect your guy

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Speaker 5: to be there too. Why do you expect them to

506
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Speaker 5: do that? Because you've worked at it? Right, because you

507
00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 5: worked at it?

508
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Speaker 2: Did you develop that at Purdue or the Chargers or

509
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Speaker 2: when did you didn't? Just like you weren't straight out

510
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Speaker 2: of Texas, Like anticipation.

511
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Speaker 3: I got no, but I kind of was though.

512
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Speaker 5: I mean that's to me that that's always been my

513
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Speaker 5: survival mechanism.

514
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Speaker 3: You know, like you learn to survive, right, I mean

515
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Speaker 3: call it what you want. Animals in the wild like right,

516
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Speaker 3: like you chameleons changing color.

517
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Speaker 5: So they don't get attacked, or you know, like like

518
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,959
Speaker 5: they blend in, Like that's you. You have to do

519
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Speaker 5: what you have to do in order to survive and

520
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Speaker 5: get the job done. And so if you're not a

521
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Speaker 5: strong arm guy, you have to learn to throw with

522
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Speaker 5: anticipation or else ball's not going to get there on time.

523
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Speaker 5: Ball's gonna get knocked down, picked off, not going to succeed.

524
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Speaker 5: So I look at guys like toa I look at

525
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Speaker 5: guys like Brock Purty. To me, maybe those are two

526
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Speaker 5: of the guys that are most similar from the perspective of, Hey,

527
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Speaker 5: they're shorter quarterbacks, right, they're not the strongest armed guys.

528
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Speaker 5: I would say, look, man like, they've got a lot

529
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Speaker 5: of experience. I mean two had a lot of college snaps.

530
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Speaker 5: Brock perty at Iowa State had a lot of college snaps.

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Speaker 5: I was a three year starter in college. I think

532
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Speaker 5: that's something that as scouts look at, you know, young qbs,

533
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Speaker 5: they can't be underestimated, and that is their experienced level

534
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Speaker 5: in college. Like look at the hype that was put

535
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Speaker 5: around guys like Mitch Trubisky, Trey Lance. And I'm not

536
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Speaker 5: saying those guys aren't going to become, you know, great players,

537
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Speaker 5: but those guys only had eleven games or less in college. Right,

538
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Speaker 5: So you think about the number of games, the number

539
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Speaker 5: of snaps, the amount of experience, like you kind of

540
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Speaker 5: expect them to come in and be this world beater.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, that takes time, Right.

542
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Speaker 5: It takes time because it takes experience, and it takes

543
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Speaker 5: reps and just time on task.

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Speaker 3: Right.

545
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Speaker 5: So I think these are all things that as you

546
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Speaker 5: look at like the next generation of qbs and experience

547
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Speaker 5: in college is so important, right, and then you know what,

548
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Speaker 5: Height's no longer an issue, Like can this dude process

549
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 5: the game? Does he have leadership ability? Can he throw anticipation?

550
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Speaker 5: Does he fight back from adversity?

551
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Speaker 3: Like?

552
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Speaker 5: Does he have some mental toughness and fortitude, like overcome

553
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Speaker 5: tough situations because everybody's going to face those tough situations

554
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Speaker 5: even within the course of the game. Does this guy

555
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 5: have a mechanism where he can move on from bad

556
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 5: plays and get on to the next play and not

557
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Speaker 5: let that effect you know what's going to happen next

558
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Speaker 5: and get right back on track.

559
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Speaker 2: Can you can you quantify that as an attribute though?

560
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Speaker 2: Like can you be like, oh, what is his mentality

561
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Speaker 2: as from from drafting somebody like you like, oh, you

562
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Speaker 2: can you can only deal with your tangibles?

563
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Speaker 1: How do you Is there a gauge for that?

564
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Speaker 5: No, I'd say this like man, like I'm going to

565
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Speaker 5: bring up names that that you know because we played

566
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Speaker 5: with these guys like Pierre Thomas was the first guy

567
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Speaker 5: that came to mind. Right, Pierre Thomas, undrafted free agent

568
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Speaker 5: out of University Illinois.

569
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Speaker 3: Right, nobody's heard of. Pierre Thomas comes in.

570
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Speaker 5: It basically makes our twenty seventeen by blocking like two

571
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Speaker 5: punts in preseason because we drafted Antonio Pittman, a.

572
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Speaker 3: A running back, the fourth round right that year, and here's.

573
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Speaker 5: Pt coming in as an undrafted free agent, and basically

574
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Speaker 5: he's only going.

575
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Speaker 3: To make the team on special teams, right, So he

576
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Speaker 3: ends up making the team, but he plays so well

577
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Speaker 3: in the preseason that like.

578
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Speaker 5: We're forced to cut this other guy, right, and then

579
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Speaker 5: he starts off the year at like four stringer on

580
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Speaker 5: the back. He blocks the pun on Sunday Night football

581
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Speaker 5: at Seattle.

582
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Speaker 3: When they're undefeated No. Seven, right, and then before the

583
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Speaker 3: end of the year, this dude's a starter. The last

584
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Speaker 3: Dame was the teason who played at Chicago. We had

585
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Speaker 3: a hundred yards rush on a hundred yard receiver, like

586
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Speaker 3: the first time he'd ever been done in Saint's history.

587
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Speaker 1: Drew Drew, What year is that? And why do you remember?

588
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Speaker 3: Dude?

589
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Speaker 5: I got because I got crazy recall when it comes

590
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Speaker 5: to this kind of stuff, because like these are life lessons, right,

591
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Speaker 5: Like these are the things that I'll sit up at

592
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Speaker 5: night and tell my kids or like something will happen

593
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Speaker 5: in a game, and I'll be like, let me tell

594
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Speaker 5: your story. Let me tell you a story about somebody. Right,

595
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 5: And like Peter Thomas, here's the dude who was just

596
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 5: constantly sold short, like man, you're not good enough, we're

597
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Speaker 5: not going to draft you, Like you don't have to

598
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 5: make the team on special teams. This and like this

599
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: dude did nothing but earn it, like every single day,

600
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 5: right until all of a sudden it was time for

601
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Speaker 5: him to get his opportunity. And guess what, he was ready.

602
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 5: He was ready, and he wasn't afraid of failure. He

603
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 5: wasn't afraid of adversity. He wasn't afraid of challenges or

604
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 5: stuff being hard, because he's been through it. Man, He's

605
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: been through it his whole life, right all the way

606
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 5: up through his career too. How many times have we

607
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: seen guys come in this league and man, it's just

608
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 5: been spoon fed to him.

609
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: It's been given to him. They never really had to.

610
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 5: Never really had a face like that kind of adversity

611
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 5: or earn it like it's just been coddled a little bit,

612
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden stuff gets hard, you know,

613
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 5: And I've never had to face this before I don't

614
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: know what this is like and then going to take

615
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 5: and they don't have that mechanism just to be able

616
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 5: to like, man, this is just part of life, right,

617
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 5: this is what's here to make me better. And you know, like,

618
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 5: I'm ready for this. It's probably the main thing that's

619
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 5: wrong with the transfer portal. Right now, you're just making

620
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 5: it easy on everybody. Oh you're unhappy, Okay, you can.

621
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 5: You always have an out. Well, guess what happens if

622
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 5: you're in a situation where you don't have an out.

623
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 5: You got to figure it out, you know what I'm saying, Like,

624
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 5: that's we are depriving a lot of these college kids

625
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 5: the opportunity to face adversity and to develop the traits

626
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 5: and attributes they're gonna help them be the best that

627
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 5: they can be.

628
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 3: Not just in in athletics, but in life on and

629
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Speaker 3: off the field.

630
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Speaker 5: Driving these kids, man, let's let's make them work for it,

631
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 5: make them earn it.

632
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Speaker 3: Get off my soapbox now, care No.

633
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm with you as but I also

634
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 2: I'll be seeing these kids leave for these bigger inn

635
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: il deals And I'm like, and that's what you get

636
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: when you ball out you get a bigger call.

637
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 5: That's yeah, So what do we yeah, so what what

638
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 5: are we putting? What are we putting the priority on?

639
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: Are we put it on education? Are we putting on

640
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: being in the best system, the best program, best coach,

641
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 5: like the best environment?

642
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: No?

643
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: Maybe, hey, maybe you know if you're if you're leaving hey,

644
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: you know, like uh, Ohio a state and you you know,

645
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: because you're not starting there or whatever it is. And

646
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: you get a trance into like a University of California

647
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: at Berkeley, You've just elevated your education right there. Boom.

648
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: But how hard is it to be a college coach

649
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: right now?

650
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: Man?

651
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt. My D link, my

652
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: D line coach now is a DC over at Oregon.

653
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: Or my D line coach from college at cal is

654
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: a DC over at Oregon. And I mean luckily they

655
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: have forty five different jerseys every other week, so I

656
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: mean it's probably a little easier his ways, but it's yeah,

657
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: these kids don't care. They're going for dollar signs out.

658
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: Coach prime, you haven't endless budget right for you? Nick

659
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 5: sat Mano, right like right you, It's so hard, man,

660
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 5: It's this actually in iol is not in iol transfer

661
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 5: portal is the best thing for Alabama.

662
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: That's say for Alabama.

663
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: You know why, because Alabama can never make a bad investment,

664
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: never make a bad What if I told you can?

665
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 5: You could invest money into something and if it doesn't

666
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 5: work out, you just get your money back and you

667
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: can move on to the next one, like you never

668
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: go wrong.

669
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: Right.

670
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 5: My point is this Alabama's recruiting piss to kids is Hey,

671
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 5: come here, we'll coach your heart.

672
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: We'll get the best at of you. Every year. We're

673
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: going to bring in the best players, and if.

674
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 5: It doesn't work out for it, you can transfer and

675
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 5: give us back that scholarship.

676
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: How about that? Right?

677
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: So it works both ways.

678
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but man, it's really good for Alabama. Think about it.

679
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 5: Otherwise alamann would have to be really selectly, right because

680
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you recruit a katie comes in.

681
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: Maybe he's not what you thought he was. You're stuck

682
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: with him.

683
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 5: You're not stuck with him anymore. You just treat him

684
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 5: like crap so thieves, and then you take a scholarship

685
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: back and you go make another investment.

686
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: You never lose, eh, never lose?

687
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: I mean that's so now that you say, I'm formulating,

688
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: what's what's going wrong? I'm like, all right now that

689
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: that that creates a lot of holes in the things

690
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: like these kids. Yeah, absolutely, so now where do these

691
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: kids formulate the mindset to become a leader?

692
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: Like you?

693
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: Like, in my mind in college, like that's how I

694
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: am a leader. It was like that freshman be sure.

695
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: I was a true freshman, so like I fought to

696
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: get playing time. I fought, you know, I was on

697
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: all special teams. In my mind, I just popped off

698
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: my freshman season. I made the first tackle on kickoff

699
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: against Tennessee at Cal right, and I was like I

700
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: had to work my way up even you know, like

701
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: that made me who I was. I looked at a

702
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: defensive end opposite of me, Tyson Lulu, who ended up

703
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: going to the Jacksonville Jaguars, like top ten picks or whatever.

704
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: It was like there was a mission there. I was like,

705
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: I want to be better than him. There's like, you know,

706
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: goals there. There was never leave Cal. I guess it

707
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: was like how do I make the best of this

708
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: four years that I have?

709
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 5: Exactly so so let's be honest, like what man, There

710
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 5: was moments during my freshman year, where I questioned myself.

711
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 5: I questioned, you know, was like doing the right thing?

712
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: Was I in the right environment, was on the right situation?

713
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: Like every I think every kid has those feelings and

714
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: emotions perfectly natural. But if the answer to that is

715
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: stuck it up, like learn to handle adversity, it's supposed

716
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 5: to be hard, embrace the challenge. You're not going anywhere like,

717
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 5: then you work through it. On the other hand, if

718
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 5: it is, hey, it's okay, you can just leave.

719
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: You can. You can just hit the reset button on

720
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: your video game controller. Right, you're having a bad game,

721
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: you just hit the reset button.

722
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 5: Just go somewhere else and just start over. Right, It's okay.

723
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 5: Guess what if it doesn't work out there.

724
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: Let's get the reset again. Let's just keep Let's just

725
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: keep kicking this can down the road. Let's just keep transferring.

726
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 5: Out till you find soy like come on, come on now, look,

727
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that at some point, like look, Joe

728
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 5: Burrow is a perfect example.

729
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: He goes to Ohio State red Shirts, sits for two years.

730
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 5: Gets beat out, gets beat out time and again, and

731
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 5: then finally has the realization, you know what, like I'm

732
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 5: not going to play here.

733
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: And then he goes over to LSU.

734
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: So you know what, I'm going to transfer out.

735
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: But man, he was there three seasons at least, I believe,

736
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 5: and so he's he's had to fight through it. He's

737
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: had to struggle, he's had to Now he's got a

738
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: giant chip on his shoulder when he leaves three years later,

739
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: and look what happens when he goes to LSU. So look,

740
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: there are there are successful examples of that, but it

741
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 5: was after a period of time where I had to

742
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 5: like get through the fire a bit, They had to

743
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: suffer a bit.

744
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: And I'm sure, I'm sure.

745
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 5: That that Joe Burrow would would would recognize the value

746
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: of being at Ohio State for three years.

747
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: It probably, I mean probably made him up more of

748
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: a more of a leader because he valued it that

749
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: much more.

750
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: No question, Man, I'll tell you what really comes as

751
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 5: a results as gratitude. And that's probably the greatest trait

752
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: that that any of us could have.

753
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: His gratitude drew bringing it back to you with that

754
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: added to your leadership qualities, like when did you become

755
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: a leader? Because when I got there, you already had

756
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: the huddle chance going, and like when did you become

757
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: a leader? You weren't just a born leader or maybe

758
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: you were. Texas football is different, I don't know, but

759
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: like when did When did you know you were Let's

760
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: just keep it to you know, the professional anyways, when

761
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: did you know?

762
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 5: I say this, I'd say, I've always loved sports, right,

763
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 5: I've always gravitated sports.

764
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: You know.

765
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 5: Sports always gave me great confidence, you know. I always

766
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 5: felt like I was an athletic kid, you know, so

767
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 5: I could pick up a sport and I could, you know,

768
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 5: usually figure it out pretty quick, you know, and then

769
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 5: I'd be good at it, and then that would build

770
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: self esteem and all that stuff. So I've always wanted

771
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 5: to be the guy who had the ball in his

772
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 5: hands right if I'm playing basketball, and either the point

773
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: guard of the shooting guard if I'm playing baseball, meaning

774
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: the picture of the shortstop right, like the list goes on, right,

775
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 5: Like I want to be the dude with the ball

776
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 5: in his hands going to win the game, right, or

777
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 5: who's in charge, who's in control of the moment and

778
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 5: the situation right and getting people on the same page

779
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 5: and all that, Like I did that, Like I's rival

780
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 5: on that stuff.

781
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: Right, So I do think there is some.

782
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 5: Some innate stuff that happens with that where you can

783
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 5: just see it in some kids, right, Like when you're

784
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 5: on the field, you're like, man, that guy's got some

785
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 5: natural leadership ability, right. But so much of what I

786
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 5: learned through the years was from having great mentors, from

787
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: being around incredible players, like watching guys like when I

788
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 5: stepped into the locker room my rookie year, I was

789
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 5: staring at Junior Sayout and Rodney Harrison on the other

790
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 5: side of the ball, and I was terrified of these dudes,

791
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: but like also like just profound respect because these dudes

792
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 5: were the first one there. They were working their ass off,

793
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 5: Like during practice, man, they did not let.

794
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: Anything slide nothing.

795
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 5: So like they set the tone early as to this

796
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 5: is the level of expectation, this.

797
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 3: Is the way that we operate around here.

798
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: And if you don't like it, get the out right,

799
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 5: like you had to get in line. And then I'm

800
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 5: right alongside Ladanian Tomlinson, right, and then lorenzo'neial comes in,

801
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: who was an awesome mentor for me. I had Doug

802
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 5: Flutie there, I mean, and then you know I'm playing

803
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 5: for Marty Shaanham are one of the greatest coaches of

804
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 5: all time that I come to New Orleans and Jean Payton,

805
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 5: and it's all the guys like you and others that

806
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 5: we played with that I had a chance to be

807
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: around every day and like woke up every day wanting

808
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 5: to go win for so like, there's so much of

809
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 5: a product of your environment and those that you're surrounded with,

810
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 5: and they just.

811
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: Bring out the best in you.

812
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 5: Like I've always felt like, what's the best leadership trade,

813
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 5: Like if you were boiler down, what's the best description

814
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 5: of a leader. It's someone who can bring out the

815
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 5: best in other people, and that's done in a lot

816
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 5: of different ways, right Like I would call Marcus Colston

817
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 5: and Darren Sproll's leaders. Those guys, as you know, did

818
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 5: not say much, but all you had to do was

819
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 5: watch them work. And if that didn't inspire you, then

820
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if you got a heartbeat, right, Like,

821
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 5: those dudes would come to work and work their tail off,

822
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 5: and like I was so inspired by those guys every day.

823
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 5: So I just I feel like I'm just a product

824
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 5: of being around some great people.

825
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 2: Right now, that makes that makes perfect sense. I mean,

826
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: you say that and you can. You know, Marcus Colston

827
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: nine one thousand Yard Seasons called him the Quiet Storm.

828
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 2: But it does say something for the guys who work

829
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: and talk and inspire, because you can be inspired by

830
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: watching anybody, you know. But when you talk that talk

831
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: and you walk that walk, then like that's where in

832
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: my mind you become a leader. Like you can dub

833
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: anybody a captain. I feel like a captain is a patch.

834
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: A leader is something more like. It feels like a

835
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: leader is a rally point. And that's what I like

836
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: to be. Like I want to be a rally point

837
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: because I'm balling because.

838
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: I'm doing things the right way.

839
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Like you look, you just gravitate towards all right, Well,

840
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: if he's doing this, I can push myself to be more.

841
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: So that's why you were a rally point, like a leader.

842
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: You know, there's certain guys you just look for, like

843
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: or the amount of work that he puts in, I

844
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: gotta put in more. Like if you're challenged me to

845
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 2: be better, you know, Like that's what I like. Like, Oh,

846
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: we talk, we talk about excellence, Well that's why we're

847
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: being excellent because there's so many things that were going

848
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: on like this, like even this season in New Orleans,

849
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: Like we caught up Thursday after we after we lost,

850
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, I was like just

851
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: catching up, trying not to talk football. But now that

852
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: I got you on this podcast, what do you see

853
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: from this first seven weeks of New Orleans States football?

854
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: And how can that be cleared up or get better?

855
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: How would you assess us? Let's go with that word.

856
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, I think I think.

857
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 5: Defensively, you guys have been pretty consistent. I think offensively

858
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 5: it's been it's been a bit inconsistent. I think there's

859
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 5: as you look at as you look at every game

860
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: you've played, I think you would look at it and say, man,

861
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: there's no reason why you couldn't have won all of them.

862
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: I know Tampa Tampa got a little out.

863
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 5: Of control, right, but but besides that, I mean, you

864
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 5: guys could be sitting here at whatever seven one one.

865
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 3: We could be sitting at six and one respectively, just right.

866
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 5: So, so you know that part is kind of frustrating

867
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 5: because I think you know that there's more in the tank. Look,

868
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 5: I think all the pieces are there, Like it'd be

869
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 5: one thing if you were sitting here saying, man, I

870
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 5: think you know some significant injuries or you know you're

871
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 5: just you're really missing.

872
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: Some key components. I don't. I don't think you.

873
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 5: Are at all, certainly as I look at it, like

874
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 5: I look offensive to ode the ball. You know, Man,

875
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 5: when we go up tempo, I think we are highly effective.

876
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 5: I think that creates a great rhythm for the offense.

877
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: I think that's when we are at our best. I

878
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: think that was shown in the fourth quarter of the

879
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 5: other night. Right we get down, all of a sudden,

880
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 5: we're up temple.

881
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: Man, We're moving the ball right down the field. And

882
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm probably they were. It's not like they were just

883
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 3: playing prevent and letting happen. I mean they were. They were.

884
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 5: They were running the same pressures, they were doing the

885
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 5: same stuff they're doing the whole game. We were just

886
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: a bit more on point because we had this rhythm

887
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 5: and this.

888
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: Flow, going sense of urgency.

889
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: I feel like when we go when teams go huddle up,

890
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: it's either one they're trying to slow the defense down

891
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: or two their desperation is kicked in.

892
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would. I would say this, man.

893
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 5: We we have always been an offense that had a

894
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 5: lot of things for a defense to worry about. Right,

895
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 5: you got Kahmara in the backfield, you got tight ends

896
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 5: that are explosive, You've got receivers all over the place,

897
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 5: playmakers that are tough one on one matchups. Right, So

898
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 5: I still feel like that is the case, right, Like

899
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 5: I I still see Mike t being a guy who

900
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 5: can catch seven or eight balls a game. I see

901
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 5: dudes in Olave and Shaheed that are like beech him

902
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: and deverywhere for us back you know in that that

903
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 5: that window from seven to thirteen where like air raid,

904
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 5: like push the ball down the field, you know, when

905
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 5: you get in the red zone.

906
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: We said it earlier in the in the in the show, if.

907
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 5: If Jimmy standing in the in the end zone, I

908
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 5: don't care who's there or who's covering him, that that

909
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 5: would be a great That'd be a great spot to

910
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 5: use him.

911
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's.

912
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: Taysom hill Is, Like I'm I'm still amazed at like

913
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 5: everything that I see from him.

914
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: And I should know better.

915
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 5: I should know better because I've seen everything this dude

916
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: can do. And yet I'm sitting there watching the game

917
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 5: on Thursday night and the guy was the tight end

918
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: in two minutes, he probably had thirty five snaps at

919
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 5: the tight end position, in addition to quarterback, in addition

920
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 5: to running back, and addition all these other positions that

921
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: he plays, and it's still like, man, it's like one

922
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 5: of the greatest weapons in the league, right, And so

923
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 5: I think, like, if anything, that would just get me

924
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 5: really excited about the rest of the season. And as

925
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 5: this continues to unfold, I think with more of a

926
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: tempo and just kind of you know, creating the rhythm,

927
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 5: getting the ball into these playmakers hands in space right,

928
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 5: which we've got plenty of them, and then just finding

929
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 5: those matchup problems that we've got them all over the field.

930
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 3: I think that we're in a great spot. I really do.

931
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: I think, I say, with ten games left, I feel

932
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: like there's so much potential we have to capitalize. Like

933
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: now it's becoming you know, we used to have those

934
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: gotta habit wins. It's becoming in that sense of like

935
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: we have to be able to turn it on now.

936
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: You know, years prior we've talked about stacking win and

937
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: getting it starts.

938
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: With this week.

939
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: So we're going in this week with this mentality to win,

940
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 2: and you knows, as you've taught me over the years.

941
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: Leadership is so important in these in these locker rooms,

942
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: this locker room feel, it's leadership, and it's these rally

943
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: points that this is where you take that. Hey, okay,

944
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: we're three and four. This is how we go beyond

945
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: to that next step. It's time to elevate, and it

946
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: starts with the leaders up top. So I appreciate you

947
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: tuning in, but I know you got things got to do.

948
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: I want to talk about pickaball on how your game

949
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: is because I still have yet to do it, but

950
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that another day.

951
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: I just want to know it's being a pickaball owner.

952
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 5: Get We've got to get the Saints to build a

953
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 5: couple of Pickaball courts right there next to the indoor facility,

954
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 5: and we can get some games going, all right, like

955
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 5: a little off season, maybe a little Tuesday off day

956
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 5: run around, you know, like, let's let's get this going.

957
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you're already a pick aball team owner.

958
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: How much longer do I have to wait till I

959
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: just hear that ticker go across Drew Brees?

960
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, come on, I'm just saying you say no. Yeah, Look,

961
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: I like leaving it to the pros there. You know,

962
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 3: I just I'll just kind of, you know, just be

963
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: working behind the scenes. Okay, perfect, appreciate you chopping in.

964
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: Bro. No, no, tell the kids in family, I said, Hi,

965
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: they'll be great, right, Yes, sir.

966
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: Man.

967
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: You you think about Drew Brees tapping in with with

968
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: the podcast, that's legendary.

969
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

970
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 2: It's Drew Breesana, come on, everybody's nice ball. Number nine

971
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: used to be all you heard in practice. He'd air

972
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: it out, you know, Jimmy would score in the end zone.

973
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: You'd have Marcus Colston, you know, Devarie Henderson, Pierre Thomas,

974
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: Kenny Stiles, Brandon Cooks, the myriad and gambit of of

975
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: wide receivers over the years that was able to you know,

976
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: Robert Meacham was able to catch from one of the

977
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: greatest to ever do it, ever to lace them up.

978
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: It's Drew Brees. You know, you're gonna say most of

979
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: bowls to be one.

980
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, you're gonna say most five thousand yard seasons,

981
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: you know, most yards while he was playing Drew Breeziana. Anyways,

982
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: that's just a thing to be said. I appreciate him

983
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: tapping in with me. Everything that you know he's done

984
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: on the field, you can't can't be replicated. His leadership

985
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: qualities can't be replicated. And you you aspire to be

986
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: a leader. I mean, I go in day in and

987
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: day I'll be like, how can I help better my teammates.

988
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: He calls a leader somebody who betters just people around him,

989
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: and that's what I aspire to be. I'm trying to

990
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: better my d line. I'm trying to, you know, better

991
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: my guys behind me. But you know, I feel like

992
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: guys like Tomorrow Davis are just as important as leaders.

993
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: I feel like guys is like Honey Badger and even

994
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: Marshawn Lattimore the way he's came on the season and

995
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: becoming a leader himself. These are, you know, guys that

996
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 2: are rally points on our defense. And we're going to

997
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: get better, you know. So whatever comes is next ten weeks,

998
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: just know we are going full head of steam into

999
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: this weekend.

1000
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: Make sure you.

1001
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: Tap in with the podcast, spread the word, tell your mama,

1002
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,239
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1003
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: Over at Off the Edge with Cam Jordan, don't forget

1004
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,200
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1005
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1006
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1007
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: because again it's great. Thank you for tapping in with

1008
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: Off the Edge of Cam Jordan.

1009
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: It's been real. I've got to go watch my kids

1010
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: practice peace.