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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast doesn't understand the catch rule either.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rostal. What's up, boys, Hey? Dan? Um Sunday flagship

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Speaker 1: program where we're gonna break down all of the week

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Speaker 1: six action. The pod brought to you, of course by

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Speaker 1: Mr Flames economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. And

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about today's show. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: everyone watching on periscope right now, how you doing? Are

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Speaker 1: you doing? That's It's a little Joey Tribani callback. It's natural.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what people look for. It's not just the results,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of personality. Sure, sure, that's what

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Speaker 1: we do. And I'm excited about today's show because we

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Speaker 1: got a saucy Mark Sessler downstairs today and I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get a big performance ode of Mark that's

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Speaker 1: put too much pressure on No. I mean I might

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Speaker 1: have completely run out of gas. It's been a long day.

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Speaker 1: West You are you at a front row seat for

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Speaker 1: Mark today? Very fired up, kind of Saucy Sessler. This

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Speaker 1: started last week. The Mark really has only three or

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Speaker 1: four teams in the NFL he wants to watch right now,

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Speaker 1: and everyone else, okay, go take a dirt nap. Well,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of you know what. I know,

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Speaker 1: we're not supposed to say this, but there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of crappy, junkie incomplete teams. And so when I

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to that, I enjoy it. You've just

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Speaker 1: game you want the other team to go away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they need to get off my radar. And this was

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Speaker 1: get out of my life. So yeah, well maybe this

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Speaker 1: this hopefully will pop up organically. Uh, some of this

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Speaker 1: passion and Mark's thoughts about the NFL. But again another week,

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Speaker 1: as we're gonna be about to jump into all the

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Speaker 1: game between the Colts Texans. Uh, some of these games.

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Speaker 1: I just can't make sense of some of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: No wonder a lot of our locks of the week

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Speaker 1: are going awry. The NFL is hard to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Right now, let's get into some of these games. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it. Let's start with a team that maybe there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, hard to figure out for

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. Maybe not now, but entering the season,

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Speaker 1: nobody saw this coming in the Atlanta Falcons, who fresh

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Speaker 1: and they put themselves in a tough spot. The Seattle

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Speaker 1: the Falcons roll off twenty one straight points in the

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Speaker 1: second half, but Earl Thomas fourth quarter interception right at

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Speaker 1: rest didn't help him any. Seahawks first let it get away,

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Speaker 1: The rest and help part of it was Julio Jones.

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Speaker 1: On fourth down, Matt Ryan desperation heave into double coverage

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Speaker 1: Officials often let jump balls go on the last play

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Speaker 1: brutal loss for the Falcons based on the final couple

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Speaker 1: You can't take away the third quarter because it happened.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, oh that leaves That was Mark wild

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Speaker 1: was well, Mark was Dan Quinn and the Packers Where

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have a formula here and nobody seems to

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Speaker 1: know how to stop him Mark, They don't. This is

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Speaker 1: set the tone with Ezekiel Elliott, and it was an

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Speaker 1: they won this game at home. They've won two in

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Speaker 1: a row. Now, they're not out of it by any

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Speaker 1: means at two and three. All four of their games,

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Speaker 1: the four of their five games have come down to

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Speaker 1: the last set. Well, out of what what do we

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Speaker 1: want them to achieve? What would we be? Would anyone

434
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Speaker 1: who cares about NFL football and the quality of NFL

435
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Speaker 1: football be excited to see this version of an NFL

436
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Speaker 1: team make the playoffs? They are out of it? John

437
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Speaker 1: Peyton in a briefcase, Oh yeah, well listen, good for him,

438
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Speaker 1: but he's king around the owners meetings with his contract extension.

439
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: In his briefcase, this is Sean Payton knows how to

440
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Speaker 1: coach football as well as anyone on offense, but the

441
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Speaker 1: fundamental lingering issues on the other side of the ball

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Speaker 1: are completely unacceptable. Tons of other coaches would have been

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Speaker 1: dealt with by now. We we've been through their defensive

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're down today. So let's talk about the

445
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Speaker 1: Panthers here? Who uh there? Are they done? Are they

446
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Speaker 1: done at one in five? Because I I want to

447
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Speaker 1: say they want what like fourteen in a row last year,

448
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: but this isn't last year anymore. And like the Packers

449
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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. It's at the point now where it's like,

450
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Speaker 1: is this a slump or is this the new normal?

451
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Speaker 1: Or the Panthers just not good West? Is that where

452
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Speaker 1: we're at now. They're not a good team right now.

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Speaker 1: The offense, just by reading the box score, looks like

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Speaker 1: they bounced back and we're fine today. But they also

455
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Speaker 1: started They also didn't do anything early. They punted the ball,

456
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Speaker 1: which against New Orleans it's like an arena league team.

457
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Speaker 1: You can't punt. The signs are there. Cam Newton passed well,

458
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart ran well, Kelvin Benjamin and Greg Olsen caught well.

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Speaker 1: Those things happened, but the defense just gave up too

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Speaker 1: many and we're you know, I'm sure you guys have

461
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Speaker 1: got someone as well. I got a bunch of tweets

462
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Speaker 1: about forking the Panthers. I'm not ready to do it yet.

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Speaker 1: I think that the would I be surprised even in

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Speaker 1: the least bit if come December one they're in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the race for a playoff spot, maybe not

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Speaker 1: the division, but a playoffs. I would not be surprising

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Speaker 1: because they've done this before. They've gotten off to horrible starts,

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Speaker 1: they've shown that streak. It is not I don't you know.

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Speaker 1: Barring an absolute injury riddled collapse by Atlanta, this division

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Speaker 1: is not going to be won by Carolina. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think that have a problem with him sticking around

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Speaker 1: for a couple of Yeah. I agree. There are another team.

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Speaker 1: Three games have come down to the last second field goal.

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Speaker 1: They've only been outscored by fifteen points. But they're not

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Speaker 1: They're not good. I mean, it's amazing in this in

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Speaker 1: this spot that Cam Newton and and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the crew couldn't do it. Uh that by the way,

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Speaker 1: Jim Henderson of w w L with that call, let's

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Speaker 1: move on, Star down down back at the funny eight

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Speaker 1: yard line fifth Washington sad it's been fitty because all

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Speaker 1: day long they've been all over Carson Wentz Kenny Albert

482
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Speaker 1: of Fox. The Redskins fifth sack of the game was

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Speaker 1: the final nail in the coffin for Carson Wentz and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles on Sunday, as the Redskins held on for

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Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty win at fed X Field. The

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Speaker 1: Redskins have now won fourth straight go figure After that

487
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Speaker 1: ugly oh and to start on Sunday. The Redskins decision

488
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Speaker 1: to go after Carson Wentz paid off, didn't it. Mark.

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Speaker 1: This was a fascinating game, and I was telling you

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Speaker 1: guys during it that I'll be interested to see what

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Speaker 1: you think when you watch us on game pass, because

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Speaker 1: something remarkable happened out of the gates, something I didn't expect,

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Speaker 1: and it was the way that Washington played excellent keepaway

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Speaker 1: football from the Eagles. They got enough from the running

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Speaker 1: game early and made key passes through the air. Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins had one of the best games he's had in

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Speaker 1: a while. At one point, they had had run thirty

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Speaker 1: eight straight plays with none for Philadelphia except for an

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Speaker 1: kneel down to end the first half. Carson Wentz did

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Speaker 1: not see the field for roughly twenty minutes at one

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Speaker 1: point of game time, and this score twenty to twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: You just want to go look at the box score.

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Speaker 1: Good for you, it's not as close as it was.

504
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Speaker 1: The touchdowns for Philly came off of pick six, the

505
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Speaker 1: only really bad play by Kirk Cousins through the air

506
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Speaker 1: and off of a kick return. And so so this

507
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Speaker 1: was another otherwise and absolutely smothering defensive effort by Washington,

508
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Speaker 1: not a team I would have seen it coming from.

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Speaker 1: They were in Kirk, They were in Carson Wentz's face

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Speaker 1: from the first second. They sacked him twice on the

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Speaker 1: first drive, and they got him twice on the last.

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Speaker 1: And this was a punishing This is this was Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz facing a defense that put him number one. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna go after him, and they got it done. We

515
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Speaker 1: haven't seen him face this heat all year. All the

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Speaker 1: all of his previous touchdowns came against teams that were

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Speaker 1: not pressuring him. So this was an interesting turn of

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Speaker 1: events for the Eagles. I don't think that I think

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Speaker 1: there's still a good team. Washington commanded this one from

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Speaker 1: the start. This surprise is I mean, I mean, whoever

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Speaker 1: there were? You know, the Bills and the Redskins were

522
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: the two talks of the league in terms of worst

523
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Speaker 1: case situations playing out in their respective conferences. First of all,

524
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Speaker 1: neither team has lost since. But on the Redskin side

525
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: of it, West, I mean, Kirk Cousin was getting playing terribly,

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Speaker 1: getting killed in his locker room. It had leaked out

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Speaker 1: to the press, and now they're they're beating everybody. Is

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Speaker 1: this surprised you? How well they're they're playing right now.

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Speaker 1: It does. And I think what we've been asking for

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Speaker 1: is what is what do they hang their hat on?

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Speaker 1: What do the Redskins do well? And this game, from

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Speaker 1: Mark's recap, you can see is the blueprint that Scott

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Speaker 1: McCluin had in mind when he decided to draft Brandon

534
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Speaker 1: Sheriff over Leonard Williams. We want to play keepaway football,

535
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Speaker 1: dominating the ground game, and they haven't dominated in the

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Speaker 1: ground game really except for two or three games over

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Speaker 1: the last two years. But this is what they want

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Speaker 1: to do because you don't have Kirk Cousins as the

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Speaker 1: focal point of your offense. You have him as a

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Speaker 1: guy who is doing well because he's buoyed by surrounding town. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean he threw his touchdowns, he got two of

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Speaker 1: them today, but it was a balanced attack down the

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Speaker 1: stretch where you're right. The running game has been so

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Speaker 1: up and down. Greg's been a big Matt Jones guy.

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Speaker 1: You'll like this game. Hundred and thirty five yards at

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Speaker 1: eight point four per carried today, and what it was

547
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Speaker 1: was down the stretch when they needed to, he got

548
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Speaker 1: close once nearly brought the Eagles back with all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that happened, and I kept thinking it's gonna go

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Speaker 1: to overtime. But a couple of possessions later, Matt Jones

551
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: ran off a couple of big runs and put this

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Speaker 1: thing out of reach. Robert Kelly, the rookie look great.

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Speaker 1: Tote yards they had two yards from lane. That's the

554
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Speaker 1: a storyline. Here are two lane players. It's just it's

555
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Speaker 1: just running back. You uh. That's three out of four

556
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Speaker 1: weeks where they've closed out games on the ground, So

557
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: they're starting to build up something there where they really

558
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Speaker 1: run the ball well in the second half closeout games.

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Speaker 1: I've picked on this Redskins team for not having anything exciting,

560
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: especially on defense. Looks like Trent Murphy Ryan Carrigan got

561
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Speaker 1: after it today. Murphy is putting together a good season.

562
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: Carrigan's solid. I mean, those are the guys who gotta

563
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Speaker 1: build around. Doesn't get you going in the morning. But

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Speaker 1: the NFC East is good. I mean, we got the Eagles,

565
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Speaker 1: and we got the Eagles and Cowboys on Sunday Night football.

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Speaker 1: It deserves to be there next week. If the Redskins

567
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Speaker 1: are finding identity and they're gonna be winning games this season,

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Speaker 1: and you put them in the mix. You got the Redskins,

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Speaker 1: the Giants, the Cowboys, the Eagles. There's not a bad

570
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Speaker 1: team of the bunch with the Redskins would be in

571
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Speaker 1: the playoffs if the see if the season ended now,

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Speaker 1: so they're doing pretty well. I want to know, Mark,

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Speaker 1: what's the state of Carson Wentz after this game. I'm

574
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Speaker 1: not worried about Carson Wentz because I still see I

575
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: think looks and they the game plan took him out.

576
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Speaker 1: He was off the field for twenty plus minutes at

577
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Speaker 1: one point. This was a total team win for the Redskins.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, you know you didn't get to see a

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Speaker 1: lot from him today. I have no problem with him

580
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Speaker 1: going forward. He's still a very talented young quarterback that's

581
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: showing just as much as Dak Prescott in many ways.

582
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Speaker 1: But this game, when you're when you're when your whole

583
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Speaker 1: offense gets handed this kind of deal today, good luck.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on. It's a second and eighteen for the Bengals.

585
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: Tap late pluts are coming, high tower zone throws him

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00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: down for a Safety's we know now, you guys know,

587
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: I am such a jerk. I thought everyone was like

588
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: that is Bob sochy and that sounded like Scott's Zola

589
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: all act as a guy who's always a bit of

590
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: a sports hub. That is some loose cannon color work.

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00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: I like the exclamation right right when it happened. Didn't

592
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: even say a word, He just goes what it's so excited? Yeeze?

593
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: What does he have against Andy Dalton? Anyway, here on

594
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: the throne of ease. They locked in Tom Brady and

595
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: a healthy Rob Gronkowski, an impossible hassle for team, something

596
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: the Bengals were reminded of on Sunday and the Patriots

597
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: seventeen win in Foxborough. Chris Wessing, the Bengals did their

598
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: best to hang around in this game, but the Pats

599
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: they're just too much to handle. Can you look at

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Speaker 1: the box score, you would think Brady was locked in

601
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Speaker 1: all game. That was not true. Has tax regression, No,

602
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: not not a regression. But for the first quarter and half,

603
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: the Bengals secondary was stingy, did not let anybody get open,

604
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: and they got a pass rush Brady. Brady was pushed

605
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: out of the pocket, pushed off his sweet spot and

606
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: couldn't get any rhythm going until Drake Kirkpatrick's illegal contact

607
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: penalty on a third and eight team gave them new

608
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: life and they went down the field James White touchdown.

609
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Then starting the second half, Andy Dalton has a great

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Speaker 1: touchdown drive, Bengals take the lead. Patriots. Patriots go three

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Speaker 1: and out. It looks like Bengals are taking control of

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Speaker 1: the game, and then a Cedric a Boullier penalty puts

613
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Speaker 1: puts him in position for that safety. Dante a Hotel

614
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: our second straight week with a safety. After that, Patriots

615
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: scored twenty four points on their next four possessions and

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Speaker 1: the onslought was on. Bengals couldn't keep up. That's that's

617
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: the tricky part of playing a keepaway type of strategy

618
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 1: is if a team as explosive as the Patriots can

619
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Speaker 1: put up points quickly, you don't have time to come back.

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Speaker 1: They had nine drives in this game, the Patriots, I

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Speaker 1: would I'm pretty sure that's the fewest drives by any

622
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Speaker 1: team in any game this season, and they put up

623
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Speaker 1: thirty five points in nine drives. Sorry to do. Bengals

624
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: dominated time of possession in this first half, and then

625
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: the second half, the Patriots were just too much. Gronk.

626
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Speaker 1: The gronk is all the way back healthwise. Now, four

627
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Speaker 1: plays of twenty five or more yards in this game,

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Speaker 1: and it got things got feisty. Vante Vante Perfect, he

629
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Speaker 1: got uh, you know, some of his dirty tactics on

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Speaker 1: low hits. After Adam Jones went low on Gronk, gotta

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Speaker 1: play Gronk, let Jones know about it. Perfect got angry

632
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Speaker 1: about that. And then on the next play Gronk had

633
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Speaker 1: another big first down which led to a little a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a shimmy, a drop ball shimmy by

635
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Speaker 1: Bronk toward the Cincinnati sideline that drew a flag. But

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Speaker 1: totally understandable for a guy that I got his knee

637
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: blown out on a low hit. Not to mention right

638
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: before then, Vontes Perfect went low on Martella's Bennett's knees

639
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: on a play when Bennet didn't even have the ball.

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Speaker 1: That was nasty. Well, it's it's to be expected from

641
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: that player, the dirtiest player I've ever seen. But what

642
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: about the wow? Wow? What about that three game suspension?

643
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: Was that supposed the clearest mind of this type of film.

644
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: That's not always how this work? Do you expect when

645
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: entire city makes excuses for him? Week after week and

646
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: day after Dayntes perfect and do whatever he wants. In

647
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: Cincinnati will back him. Their coaching stafford back him. Reade,

648
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: you have to sit Vontes's perfect down. If he doesn't

649
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: get the message, I'd be real concerned about this Bengals

650
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: team at this point. You're gonna get a win next

651
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: week in Cleveland, but the schedule after that is it's

652
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: rough right up until the end and everything that we

653
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: thought about the Bengals, You're gonna be a hard nosed

654
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: running team that beats people up. I'm looking at what

655
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: the two main running backs, Bernard and Jeremy Hill produced

656
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: today and is it unimpressive in real life as it

657
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: looks on paper. It is? And I think if you

658
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: if you say the Bengals deserve benefit of the doubt

659
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: because they've been there for five straight years, they'll turn

660
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: their season around. You have to believe they're gonna earned

661
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: the running game around. If you believe that, because they

662
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: don't have anything but a j Green going on offense

663
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: right now, and he's having an All Pro year. But

664
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: I think it's telling when you have three out of

665
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: four they get a goal line stand stuffed first and

666
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: one from the goal line. Three Geo Bernard runs. I

667
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: don't know where Jeremy Hill is during that series, but

668
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: three Geo Bernard runs and he can't get in the

669
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: end zone. I think that tells you a lot. He'll

670
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: vanished for stretches of time in the previous game too.

671
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they were man handled by Dallas, and you know,

672
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked they lost today. But there's a string

673
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: of bad games here for they, not Tyler Eifford. Their

674
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: schedule has been frontloaded on the road. Four of their

675
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: six games have been on the road. They've been against

676
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: great teams Pittsburgh, Dallas, New England. But there's not a

677
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: lot to be excited about. Let's move on, gentlemen, and

678
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: talk about another a f C East team, uh that

679
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: keeps on winning. The Buffalo Bills are rolling a revitalized

680
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy ran for a hundred and forty yards and

681
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: three scores, and Colin Kaepernick's returned to the starting lineup.

682
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Did little mark the Niners in Buffalo's forty five sixteen

683
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: win at Orchard Park. Greg, we have to consider the

684
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: opponent here, Greg, I guess I like that. Why are

685
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: you rubbing massaging Greg's left shoulder less comfortable about. You

686
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: have to consider the opponent here. But Rex and the

687
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Bills have some swag they do. They put it on

688
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: the forty Niners defense in a way that Rex Ryan

689
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: could not have dreamed of any better. Three hundred and

690
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: twelve yards on the ground rushing day, more than anything

691
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: in the world, the most rushing yards given up by

692
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners since nineteen fifty eight. The

693
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: only thing game became the only thing that gets Rex

694
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: more excited than three yard rushing days from his team

695
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: or feet. No, I don't know if they were really

696
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: that good. I looked up there, who are their coach was?

697
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: But I totally forget. Try to get a reaction that

698
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: Assessler to what what do you want me to say

699
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: to bring it back around? Well, he's got the He's

700
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: got two guys with the two best feet at their

701
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: position in the entire league, Tyrod Taylor and Lashawn McCoy.

702
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's harder to tackle than Lashawn McCoy

703
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: right now. And I think that Tyrod Taylor, with all

704
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: due respect to Russell Wilson, is the best running quarterback

705
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's an unbelievable scam scrambler. It doesn't

706
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: mean you can make your whole offense around that, but

707
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: it's just a fact. On days like this, they were

708
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: getting some free rushers at him. He's getting away from them,

709
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: he's buying time, he's throwing passes. Mostly he's just running.

710
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: I mean, he had sixty eight yards on the ground,

711
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: but so many on third and long where they could

712
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: not get off the field because he can't tackle this guy. Well,

713
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn needs to get some more low because what

714
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: the Bills have done in the last four weeks is

715
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: one of the best most effective four game stretches of

716
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: running in the early season in the history of the

717
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: NFL and the and it's one of the most productive

718
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: four game stretch you've seen before mid season in the

719
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: history of the NFL. I would tend to give most

720
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: of the credit for this Bill's resurgence, you know, to

721
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: Zack Brown and Lorenzo Alexander both had good games, and

722
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan for the most part. But in this game,

723
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: and and really if you look at the way they've

724
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: set the tempo in the other games, it's it's been

725
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: about the offense too. This is the difference in this

726
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: game was really that the forty Niners after a while

727
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: just caved in. The Bills have kind of had been

728
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: good for a half, but then quiet like they were

729
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: against the Patriots and Ramps in this game they ran

730
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: away with. It was only a one score game. I mean,

731
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: the Zach Brown didn't pile up five hundred yards of offense.

732
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: I like, what's happening on that side of the ball.

733
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: And you know, listen, we we We just took the

734
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: Saints to the cleaners and if they turned their defense around,

735
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: I'll admit I'm wrong, and I'm willing to admit that

736
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: I had Rex Ryan probably out of a job by

737
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: week eight, and I couldn't be more wrong. Rex Ryan

738
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: has shown some fight here and the Bills have been

739
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: fun to watch, and they are winning in a way.

740
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: If they can keep this up, it doesn't feel like

741
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: a smoke and mirrors up ration when you can run

742
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: the ball this way. What about on San Francisco side,

743
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick A lot of talk about it. It's pretty

744
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: kind of an ugly scene according to if you followed

745
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: Robert Klempo's timeline outside the Bills stadium, which maybe shouldn't

746
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: be a surprise with people not being Kaepernick fans. How

747
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: did he play? He was better than Blaine Gabber, but

748
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 1: that's a really low bar. You know, he avoided making

749
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: the big mistake that it was a one score game

750
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: late in the third quarter. He's definitely a better runner

751
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: than Gabber. I thought he showed really good vision, really

752
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: good job as a runner and as a scrambler. That

753
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: was the best part of their offense. Again, I think

754
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: I think he's got a little more back as a

755
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: as an athlete than people give him credit. But he

756
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: missed a bunch of throws still. I mean, you know,

757
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: the one touchdown they had it was a very windy game,

758
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: was a deeply under thrown ball. You know, he didn't

759
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: look he didn't look like he's gonna solve this team.

760
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: He can't play defense for them, he can't play wide receiver.

761
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: He's not good enough to to save this. This is

762
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 1: a depressing team. Records aside. Is this the worst club

763
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: in the end of all? Right? Now, Yes, I think

764
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: it's a strong argu that the Dolphins had a nice

765
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: day today. Yes, I would say you probably can put them.

766
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there are other teams very close now,

767
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: they're they're the worst because they have so little. They

768
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: have so little on either side of the ball at

769
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: this point. By the way, the coach of the fifty

770
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: eighth forty Niners, Frankie Albert and uh a nice little

771
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: quarterback combination. Why A Tittle and John Brody, two guys

772
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: who had great careers think Leo Nomlini was on their defense.

773
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: West was about eight years old when that when that

774
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: season happened, Which is unfair for me to say because

775
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm older than West. So let's move on. Manning out

776
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: of the gun, single back left. He takes the snap,

777
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: he looks, he throws hold on catch a friender down Tony,

778
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: Tony down up so fun touchdown, hold down, pick up

779
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: junior sixty six yards, the fallen raven defender riving a

780
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: paint on his back near the forty Giants up twenty.

781
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: That's Bob Papa w F A. N Odell Beckham Jr.

782
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Put the Giants on his backs at a career high

783
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: with two two yards and two touchdowns, including the go

784
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: ahead score that you just heard with one to play

785
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: in Big Blue win over the Baltimore Ravens. Beckham punctuated

786
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: those two second half scores with various kicking net related shenanigans,

787
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: and they potentially costly personal foul for removing his helmet

788
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: on the field to play. But West, you know that

789
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff is annoying and it drives me crazy personally.

790
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: But Beckham's greatness as a playmaker cannot be overstated. Every

791
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: time I looked up, I watched the highlight package. He

792
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: was running after the catch, pasted all the entire secondary

793
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: They just couldn't catch up to him after the catch.

794
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: And I agree with you. I'm not saying, out of

795
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: the four people in this room, I have the best

796
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: handle on what constitutes humor. But but if it's a

797
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: great sense of humor, but it was pretty fun, I'll

798
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: say this. If it's contrived, it's not comedy. And the

799
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: whole net kicking thing is tired, and that's a bit

800
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: in his own head that is just like love it.

801
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: I saw some people like, oh, it really was fun.

802
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: It was fun. I just want to people to know

803
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: if we might as well break down the bed a

804
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: little bit. Here he gets whacked in the head by

805
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: the kicking net and one of the losses a couple

806
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Uh, he scores a touchdown in a

807
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: losing effort last week and kisses the net. After the

808
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: first touchdown today, he lays down on the ground and

809
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: pulls the net over him to simulate I think sexual intercourse.

810
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: And then after the second touchdown he gets down on

811
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: one knee and proposes to the net. Me me me, me,

812
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: me me me. But you know he also won the

813
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: game single handedly, so you know, I got giants fence

814
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: coming after me because and I makes like the dorky

815
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: white uncle or something. But the guy just drives me

816
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: nuts with some of the behavior and then he and

817
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: then he goes and has a performance like that on

818
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: the field. I don't know, like people lose their minds

819
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: when you see a five game stretch where doesn't get

820
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: in the end zone. And there are some games where

821
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: he disappears and they decide that he's overraping. He's still

822
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: one of the seminole talents in this league. YEP. I'd

823
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: have a bigger issue with him ripping his helmet off

824
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: in a rule violation that everyone should know, because that

825
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: had things gone a little bit differently, we'd be talking

826
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: about old o' Beckham in a completely different way. Right now,

827
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I just can't put your team in that position was

828
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: uh to play when he got that penalty, and then

829
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: uh the Ravens were unable to make that final drive

830
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: down the field. But uh, you know, the Ravens on

831
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: their side, three game winning streak to start the season,

832
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: now a three game losing streak, and you know, you

833
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: really have to look at the injuries that are piling up.

834
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and Eli Manning both struggled in the first half.

835
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: Beckham lost a fumble early on Eli Eli looked a

836
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: little um discombobulated, but then they once cornerback Jimmy Smith

837
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: went out for Baltimore with a concussion, things changed quickly,

838
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: and uh, you know Trrell Suggs left this game. Baltimore

839
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: entered this game without three of their starting lineup, starting

840
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: offensive linemen playing and Steve Smith out. So, I mean,

841
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: that's a lot to be up against. You Stumerville hasn't

842
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: played for this team. It seems like every week they

843
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: take a commanding lead, or at least seem like they're

844
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: in control of the game, and then injuries happen and

845
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: they have to adjust their playing stuff. Jimmy Smith, it

846
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: sounds like it's a concussion. Who knows how long he'll

847
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: be out for. Sometimes it's not just how great is

848
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: the player, it's who's behind him, and they are thin

849
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: at cornerback. There is a steep drop off like they

850
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: happened for like four years, right, and steep out drop

851
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: off after Jimmy Smith and Ladarius Webb, who's been playing

852
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: pretty well this year, is involved in both of those

853
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: Beckham plays. I mean, I think I think people you

854
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: know that are Ravens fans are furious right now with

855
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: Ladarius Webb for giving up those plays as the deep

856
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: safety and a yard three touched, three touchdown passing day

857
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: from Eli Manning should quiet people like Greg that's say,

858
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: oh maybe he's too old now to be a good Well.

859
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: I liked it in your post and you you you

860
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: didn't mention Greg, which is probably a good move from

861
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: a from a coworker angle, but you called it a

862
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: dumb narrative that Age White explained the quarterback's recent slump,

863
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: which I which I didn't find that bringing this that

864
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: you brought that up as as something and I said, well,

865
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: that's not that crazy you because you got you Sometimes

866
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: you get yourself in trouble because you get on contrarian

867
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: corner even when you don't believe what you're saying. And

868
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: in that case, you made the point, well it could

869
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: be aged right, but I didn't. I didn't raise that point. No,

870
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Greg that he doesn't believe what he's saying. He hates that.

871
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: I just like, you know, any chance that I have

872
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: to get you and Dan into a tight spot like that,

873
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: um maybe would encourage more shoulder rubbering from Dan, Like

874
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: I know you that happened about ten minutes ago, and

875
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: I didn't. It wasn't personal. Was that Eli Manning running

876
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: through the secondary all game? Or was it Odeble? But

877
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: get it? And I know that's your whole thing. But

878
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: it's like, then the quarterback doesn't get any credit for

879
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: delivering the ball on time, in a good spot and

880
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: making the reads. Where was he the last few weeks

881
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: that quarterback? Where was Odell? I don't know, Probably just

882
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: like crying on the sideline gram let him make a play.

883
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: That's how football works. Was and there a lot of

884
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: football books. It's it's a team effort, is not just

885
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: one guy. And yet they're in last place. It's a

886
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: it's a tough thing. Three they're okay, they're okay, John said, okay,

887
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: I think I still they are. I think quintessential nine

888
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: and seven team. I don't know I get it done,

889
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: but I couldn't agree more. And I they've got a

890
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: lot to figure out in other areas like this. The

891
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: fact that you just simply cannot run the ball, that's

892
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: that's your time is gonna come up at some point.

893
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on, gentlemen. The Miami Dolphins, who

894
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: were just saying, you know, this goes back to what

895
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: I said the top of the show, you can't figure

896
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: out football. Sometimes sometimes you can't figure it out. Because

897
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: they delivered the upset of Week six. We were saying

898
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: they were the worst team in football a couple of

899
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: days ago, but they took it to the Pittsburgh Steelers

900
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: a thirty fifteen win at heart Um and the star

901
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: here is Jagi, who led the charge for Miami, rushing

902
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: for a career best uh two hundred and how many

903
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: four yards and two touchdowns, including a game i s

904
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: sixty two yard rush in the four West. Big Ben

905
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: got banged up in this game and the Steelers authored

906
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: their second stinker that a five week stretch. Reason for concern.

907
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: I think there's a reason to concern because of of

908
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: Ben's knee. You could call this a one game aberration,

909
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: but I think with Ben's knee and and the fact

910
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: that guys like Dave Damashek, who is a Steelers fan,

911
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: we're not surprised by this because Mike Tomlin is under

912
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: five hundred in his career on the road against teams

913
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: with a three hundred or worse winning percentage, They the

914
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: Steelers do not show up reliably on the road against

915
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: awful team. Happened against the Bucks two years ago, a

916
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: disastrous loss out of nowhere. They have a habit of

917
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: doing this, and then they have to play well late

918
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: in the season because they give away too many games

919
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: like this during the season. And you know, you look

920
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: up and I was tracking this game out at the

921
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: side of my eye. Steelers are not moving the ball

922
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: on offense until Darius Hayward Bay breaks off one of

923
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: the most impressive touchdown runs of the season. Just physicality

924
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and then the afterburners once

925
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: you get into the second level, and that was their

926
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: only offense. Big Ben was not moving the ball through

927
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: the air, which were used to seeing. After he was

928
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: raining bombs on everyone else the last couple of weeks.

929
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: He just didn't have a going today. I think the

930
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: Dolphins dominated the line of scrimmage. Well, they said, you know,

931
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: he said he's gonna get an m R I after

932
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: the game, So who knows. This could be one of

933
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: those injuries where it's worse. You know, he's gonna act

934
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: like it's worth no matter what. I'm just saying, plays

935
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: up an injury like Ben Roethlberg. Just because the guy

936
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: returns to the game doesn't mean he's necessarily going to

937
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: play next week. And you can't blame it all on

938
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: the injury because Miami was controlling this game. Not blaming

939
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: at all, No, I know, no one, no one here was.

940
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they were. They were controlling the game

941
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: before the injury. How after what we've seen from Miami

942
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: to Dan's point, none of this, it seems like teams

943
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: are a complete week to week operation. We all gave

944
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers a mulligan for that Eagles game. Hey, they're

945
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: a great team that had a bad week, but then

946
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: you lay another stinker and then you just wonder what's

947
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: going on with the DNA of the table a little.

948
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: They can can completely destroy multiple teams that are, but

949
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: then Sandwich with two like poop balls, So you just

950
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: can't trust them on the road. Well, then you know

951
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: what it is, because they're not they don't seem like

952
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: they're streaking towards home field advantage in the a f

953
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: C when you keep this up, and so for the

954
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: many time in a row where they're gonna get dropped

955
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: in the in the division game and they're not gonna

956
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: probably get to the e C Championship very well, I'm

957
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: just gonna say the Steelers fans, I don't think that

958
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: they've had a hard road of it, but if you're

959
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: living in that world of elite teams, it feels like

960
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: a broken record for this to happen. Forty one to

961
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: twenty loss in New England in the divisional playoffs? Is

962
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: that where we're headed on this something like that? Or

963
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe you lose maybe you know, maybe you

964
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: lose a week seventeen game to a team with a

965
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: third string quarterback because you're on the road. Well, part

966
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: of that d DNA in the playoffs is that they

967
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: have an important player injured. Well, that's happens two times

968
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: year before that. In this game they play without Big

969
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: Ben for a part of it. And then you also

970
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: have their two best defensive players, Cameron Heyward and Ryan

971
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: Shazier are not even in the lineup. This is kind

972
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: of who the Steeler have become. I mean, I don't

973
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: know how you give up two yards rushing to j J. I.

974
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's this isn't to come on and Antonio

975
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Brown gets shut down by Byron Maxwell. I think Adam Gaze,

976
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: you found the right amount of players to cut. It

977
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: was seventeen or whatever it's been so far like that

978
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: was that was that got the message across because they

979
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: came out and they're playing well. That he benched Mario

980
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: Williams for the first two drives of this game. Mario

981
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: Williams did not play. Do you think that has any

982
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: staying power? The fact that you have to send this

983
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: message in October is a huge warning sign and it

984
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: might work for one week. I think they have the

985
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: talent and it sounds like Tannehill played a very good

986
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: game to be a respectable team, not to be the

987
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: worst team in the league. We'll have to see if

988
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: they can do it for more than a week. The

989
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: effort is on the road. Well, one thing about the Dolphins,

990
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: like other teams did more of a house cleaning in

991
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: the off season. Under new coaches, the Dolphins did not

992
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: to send the same degree, and so they went into

993
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: the season with the same you know, casket of players

994
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: that they had last year, the flatlining operation. Um casket

995
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: for lining. I like that. I think, well, come on,

996
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: this is a crazy game. I have a I have

997
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: as Sessler here that we saw Mary Williams last game

998
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: as a Miami Dolphins. I think he's gonna be cut.

999
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: Time to send another message after after send that message

1000
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: over match, coach makes wrong decision in big spot. Let's

1001
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: move on. Yeah, that's probably wrong. That's that's a big

1002
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: underdog right there. Golden Tate lives. The forgotten wide receiver

1003
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: blew up on Sunday at Ford Field, going off for

1004
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty five yards and a touchdown on

1005
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: eight catches in the Lions over the Rams in an

1006
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: entertaining game at at Ford Field. L A lost this

1007
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: game despite case Keenum delivering a spot on Joe Montana impersonation.

1008
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: Uh it really was. You'll watch this, Dave of You'll

1009
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: be like, WHOA is this case Keenum or is this

1010
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. They're gonna say the same exact thing. Unfortunately,

1011
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: the Rams running game continues to be abysmal. And I

1012
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: want to point out because West I watched this game

1013
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: out of the side of my eye. Also just a

1014
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: work task and um the play that really it accurately

1015
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: summarizes everything that that fails the Rams because they want

1016
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: to be this tough, ground and pound badass team, but

1017
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: they can't do it because they don't have uh the

1018
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: hog Molly's up front. Can you be a hog Molly

1019
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: on the offensive line? Yes? Okay, good? Um for fourth

1020
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: and goal, one yard line, four seconds to play in

1021
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: the half, and Jeff Fisher says, let's go for it.

1022
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: Are are big toughs against your big toughs. With our

1023
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: Lamborghini of a running back getting the ball, he is

1024
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: swarmed under for a two yard loss. Half ends. They

1025
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: end up losing the game by three points. They can't

1026
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: be the team that they want to be and Todd

1027
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: Gurley is trapped in hell. So even on a day

1028
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: when Case Kingdom literally plays like Joe Montana, they still

1029
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: can't win against the mediocre team. Well, they want to

1030
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: be the Cowboys. They have the same blueprint as the

1031
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: Cowboys have, except they spent an entire draft trying to

1032
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: build an offensive line and flunked on almost all of

1033
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: those draft picks. While the Cowboys really do have the

1034
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: best tackle garden center in the NFL, right they there,

1035
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: They have Greg Robinson at left tackle, was the number

1036
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: two overall pick in the draft. Been basically a disaster.

1037
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: And then you have the entire class that they took

1038
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: last year, which it isn't working. When you look at

1039
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: the box score, Todd Gurley and Zach Center both had

1040
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: the exact same line today, fourteen for fifty eight. And

1041
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: so when Zack Center starts for the Lions, Todd Gurley

1042
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: starts for the Rams, and that's a draw. You're not

1043
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: gonna win that many games. I know they were able

1044
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: to score twenty eight points and be close, but you're

1045
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: not gonna win that many games that way. Don't take

1046
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: anything away from Zach Center. Greg. That was the shadow mark,

1047
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: wasn't it. The Kenny britt Reval. He's now on pace

1048
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: for eighty catches and yards with case Keenum is his quarterback.

1049
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And and uh Tavon Austin, who is

1050
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: getting paid six point three billion dollars over the next

1051
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: five years, three for twenty four. Uh is he gonna

1052
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: be the first guy to sign a deal of that magnitude,

1053
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: be a nice guy and not be a problem and

1054
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: still get cut, got age and so all over the place,

1055
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: furious that he got that money. He's made some plays

1056
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: this year, not not many, but they're they're not gonna

1057
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: convince themselves that he's been a problem for them. They're

1058
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: gonna defend that up and down. We should give the

1059
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: Lions credit. I mean, this is a team that's had

1060
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. They were thin to begin with,

1061
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: and they've held up the last couple of weeks, winning

1062
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: close games against the Eagles and the Rams. They're three

1063
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: and three. They've got reason to think, hey, we're not

1064
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: We're not out of this mix at all. They're getting

1065
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: great play out of Matthew Stafford. They get on so

1066
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: back this week. They've been fun to watch for weeks.

1067
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: So Theo Riddick, you survived that, No, Eric Ebron, you

1068
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: survived that. They have plenty of excuses and they haven't

1069
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: taken it. And then on the other side, it's almost

1070
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: a you know, um, the same situation. The fourth and

1071
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: goal for the Lions in this game, a huge play

1072
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: in the game and Riverboat Caldwell uh says, we're going

1073
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: for cardiac. Caldwell goes for it. Stafford buys time with

1074
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald bearing down on him and delivers a beautiful

1075
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: throw that Andrey Roberts pulls in for the touchdown. So

1076
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: you know, the Lines are just a little bit of

1077
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: a better team than the Rams. And the Rams are

1078
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: three and three, But I still think this is gonna

1079
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: be some seven and nine bull. You know what, well,

1080
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: you're not far away. They've come back to the pack.

1081
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Exactly when I saw this result, I kind of thought, well,

1082
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Lions deserved to be three and three

1083
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: and the Rams deserve to be three and three. Like

1084
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 1: the luck evened out from the first month of the season,

1085
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 1: Let's move on. The Tennessee Titans are showing signs of life.

1086
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: Gentleman Marcus Mariotta had a second straight productive game and

1087
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: Richard Matthews had a career day in the Titans win

1088
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: over the now oh and six Cleveland Browns. Mark have

1089
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: the Titans solved their issues on offense? I wouldn't use

1090
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: this game as a some sort of acid test on

1091
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: that front, but they for the first time all season

1092
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: showed pretty juicy stuff in terms of downfield passing. Kendall

1093
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: Wright had what I think might be the catch of

1094
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: the day and it didn't happen more than once. I

1095
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: mean the hundred and thirty three yards off eight grabs.

1096
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: And they also got uh, you know, Richard Matthews involved too.

1097
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: That it's an element that we haven't seen. But you're

1098
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: going against a battered um Brown secondary that had Joe

1099
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Hayden on the sideline, that lost their safety early on.

1100
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just you Greg just talked about, it's

1101
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: not just the player you lose, it's who behind them.

1102
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: In Cleveland's got a bunch of young players in the

1103
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: secondary with very little experience. So I don't know what

1104
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: to take away from this. They Browns were very focused

1105
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: on trying to shut down to Marco Murray and they

1106
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: did that to a large part, but what it seemed

1107
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: to do was completely free up Mariota to run at

1108
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: will on this defense. They got the job done the

1109
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: Titans and Cleveland made a furious, you know, come back

1110
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: at the end. But it was the second week in

1111
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: a row that Cleveland could not run the ball at all,

1112
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: and so you look at Cleveland schedule, not sure where

1113
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: a win is coming. This was the game that you

1114
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: looked at, You looked at this a month ago. Maybe

1115
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: this is where it was happening. The Titans three and

1116
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: three in in that horrid division. Um, yes you're still alive.

1117
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't love this team, but we counted them out,

1118
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, weeks ago and they're three and three. The

1119
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: prophecy four told by former Ravens head coach that escapes

1120
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: my mind, even though we're technically colleagues. Brian, what was

1121
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: the prophecy that he told? His tweet was I don't

1122
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: know where you find a win O the Browns? How

1123
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: about how about home versus the Jet No, it's a possibility.

1124
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean sure, everything is a possible. Everything is a

1125
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: possibility that Dolphins just wah home against a one win team.

1126
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: You've been in every single game. That's I'm just saying.

1127
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: There isn't like, oh, that's the game where they're gonna

1128
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: mop up, you know, and then you know what they

1129
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: put themselves in this position. So I understand you want

1130
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: to take the Browns with a grain of salt if

1131
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: you're analyzing this game from the Titans perspective. But we

1132
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: went out last week. The Kendall Wright is by far

1133
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: the best re fiver, and he hadn't been healthy, and

1134
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: Mark has said, let's give this some time so Marcus

1135
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: Mariota can get used to the offense and used to

1136
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: the new players on his team. And even if it's

1137
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: week opponents, the last two weeks he has played so

1138
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: much better and he's looked really good. And if you're

1139
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: gonna try to shut down to Marco Murray, Mariota is

1140
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: good enough to make you pay for it, well, yeah,

1141
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: this is his best game of the year. They have

1142
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: made some significant changes. Mariotta is running more. And then

1143
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: you look at the box score today. Andrew Johnson didn't

1144
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: have a target. That's a good thing. J Sharp didn't

1145
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: have a catch on three targets, and you know Sharp

1146
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: started out well. I think he's gonna be an important

1147
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: part of this team. But you're making the offense more

1148
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: about Kendall right now that he's healthy healthy, Richard Matthews

1149
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: making place. And those two weeks where Mariotta looked the

1150
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: worst were the weeks that Delaney Walker were out. And

1151
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: I know Walker didn't have a big game in this one,

1152
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 1: but he is such an important part of this team.

1153
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: They've had a really easy schedule and so that has

1154
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: helped them get at three and three. But whatever, they

1155
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: have an offensive line and they have a dee decent defense.

1156
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: One other thing, well that I would mention the defense too.

1157
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: They sacked Cody Kessler six times today. We talked about

1158
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: him on Thursday that the matchup issue here, right, The

1159
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: matchup issue here was Cleveland's banged up offensive line where Camervin,

1160
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: your first round center from last season, does not look

1161
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: ready for prime time on any level. And Kessler got

1162
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: sacked six times. He got banged around a bunch from

1163
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: wire to wire in this thing, and you gotta wonder

1164
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: how long he'll last. He played well otherwise, I was

1165
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: gonna say, Cody Kestler has shown some things. If Jash

1166
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: McCown is ready next week, do you stay with Kessler

1167
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: the young kid? You're probably gonna have to use them

1168
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: both at some point. I see no reason to sit

1169
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: Kessler down. What is this team about. It's all about

1170
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: developing younger players. He's been he's been a positive for them.

1171
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: Been good. Yeah, I mean he hasn't. You're not gonna

1172
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: build your team around it, but he's been good. Before

1173
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 1: we move on Mark. I didn't see much of his game.

1174
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: What's Terrell Prior is just phenomenal. Yeah, it's like it's

1175
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: it's I think it speaks to the fact that it's

1176
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: so hard to find athletes that make a position switch

1177
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: in football, probably the hardest sport to do that in.

1178
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: And what he's done is remarkable. Nine catches, seventy five yards.

1179
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: But also he's just a matchup nine. One thing is

1180
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: you see week to week with Terrell Prior is that

1181
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: he's big enough and strong enough and has the hand

1182
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: strength to go one on one with premier cornerbacks and

1183
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: win matchups. I'm just so happy that your boy Bill

1184
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: Belichick butchered that personnel decision. It wasn't the only one,

1185
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: so did the other thirty. Yeah, he worked out for

1186
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: a bunch. He was he was on the Browns last

1187
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: There is a difference. He really thought the Patriots were

1188
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: gonna sign him and uh, the transformation get him West,

1189
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: all right, that's fair. The transformation with Terrell Prior, if

1190
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: you followed him in the off season, happened this offseason

1191
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: that he put the work in and he couldn't have

1192
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: been more serious about it. Was the first time that

1193
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: he had embraced the move to wide receiver. Let's move on.

1194
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders came down to earth in a game

1195
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: that started with a downpour. Greg Alex Smith out played

1196
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: Derek car and the Chiefs moved to three and two

1197
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: of a win over the Raiders in the black hole

1198
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: on the road. Greg, this is a game where Kansas

1199
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: City's defense shined. It did, and it's good for Andy

1200
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: Reid and Bob Sutton and that team to see that

1201
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: defense starting to come around. Uh. But the thing we

1202
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: got to talk about first is, you know, the seventh

1203
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: wonder of the world, Andy Reid, after a bye week,

1204
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's real, it's really amazing, scular because

1205
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: they this was by far their best game of the season,

1206
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: by far the Raiders worst game of the season. You know,

1207
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: this is the first game since Jack del Rio's first

1208
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: game as Raiders coach where they weren't within one score

1209
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: at some point in the fourth quarter. It was a

1210
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: game that was for mutters, that was for the tougher

1211
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: team who was going to run the ball, and that

1212
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: was the Kansas City Chiefs, who really were the better team.

1213
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: I mean everything about them was better today to watch

1214
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: Charles back on the grid. He was, and yet it

1215
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: was interesting to see them stick with Spencer were as

1216
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: the primary running back. I think Charles showed something on

1217
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: a few plays. He had a seventeen yeard run that Look,

1218
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: we don't need to rush him back in No, and

1219
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: and where is so good right now? Why bother? You

1220
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: have a good one to punch They in the NFL

1221
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: and rushing entering this game, I don't know, well, and

1222
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't think you can put that on Spencer where

1223
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: although I think he's played really well overall, he hadn't

1224
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: he kind of hit a slump the last couple of

1225
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: weeks before this game got hurt. I mean, I think

1226
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: the line they've had seven I think six different players

1227
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: started guard for that team. So the line has been

1228
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: a problem in general. Where maybe isn't a spectacular He's

1229
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: not gonna wow you, but he seems like a good

1230
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: starting NFL running back to me, all you're saying is

1231
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: the Jamal Charles isn't gonna make him vanish? Yeah, this

1232
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: sounded gonna share. They're gonna share the work. Why not?

1233
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: This sounded like Derek Carr's Most Suspects start of the year. Yeah, Well,

1234
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: he had his first fumble of the year, which is amazing.

1235
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: He made it to week six. This is the guy

1236
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: who's been in the top five and fumbles to three

1237
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: years and so that's that's to his credit. He lost

1238
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: that he threw an interception. He's very lucky that he

1239
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: didn't throw another. You know, when you watch the game

1240
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: pass I think car has gotten away with a lot

1241
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: of throws where defenders dropped passes this year. That's just

1242
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: this is how it is. In this game. He wasn't,

1243
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, quite as lucky. The Chiefs had a good

1244
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: game plan for him. They the Chiefs have owned the

1245
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: Raiders for whatever reason. How about the idea of the Raiders,

1246
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, learning this week that they weren't going to

1247
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: be the team around the NFL. I thought about that

1248
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: knock them there as a little bit. I think there

1249
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: may be a larger factor at work when you've got

1250
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: a building filled with hundreds of people that live in

1251
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: the Bay Area and make their life there and have

1252
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: their families there and their kids there, and you're finding

1253
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: out that you may be moving to Las Vegas, which

1254
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: is not a place a lot of people would move to. Uh,

1255
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, by choice necessarily uh, and I and I

1256
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: think better. Okay, probably a team of at L had

1257
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: a larger impact, but I when you I look at

1258
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: they have the Jaguars and Bucks next, so that the

1259
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: Raiders are probably gonna get right here. But if that

1260
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: continues to be a reality, that that becomes the way

1261
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: it is. Lots of weird things happened to this. I

1262
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: always talk about the Browns and I apologize, but they

1263
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: were three and one and it considered a Super Bowl

1264
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: contender when they announced the move to Baltimore and the

1265
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: team ended up five and eleven. It was an absolute

1266
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: train wreck, like things can go south when you find

1267
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: this stuff out until Rio is a Bay Area guy

1268
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: who wants to well, well, I mean, I guess it is.

1269
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: How different is it? I'm saying Cleveland was an entrenched

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Speaker 1: franchise that the Raiders have been a little transient and

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Speaker 1: in general, and this has been stuff that's been floated around.

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Speaker 1: Well but yeah, but the Raiders moving to Las Vegas

1273
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: is as close as you can come to like Madden

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01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: level science fiction that we can you can dream out

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01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: the Raiders belong in California to Vegas. That goes for

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Speaker 1: all aspects of life. It's moving forward. It's moving forward,

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01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: it sounds like, but Mark Davis did say they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be there two more years. One last thing. This division

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01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: could have been very separated and with the Raiders and

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01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: the Broncos, you know, kind of running away with it

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01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of a condensing. This week, Chargers take

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01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: out the Foreign one, Broncos Chiefs take out the fourign

1283
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: one Raiders. It's a good division. Trying to talk the

1284
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: Chargers back into the race. The Chargers, you're in it.

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Speaker 1: They've they've outscored opponents this year, the Raiders haven't. I

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01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: just like, how what you love the Chargers? It's nice? Uh?

1287
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: Do we have to talk about the Jaguars embarrassed? I guess,

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01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, out of respect for the listeners and the

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01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: people on periscope that are fans of these teams. It's

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01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: like it's like I always say, when the Jets stunk

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01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I always love that inside

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01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: the NFL with Len Dawson and Nick Bona Connie, they

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01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: would always give all the teams equal play. And I

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01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: really and that's what we're gonna do here. That's what

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01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Be people. We're gonna do it for

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01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: those fans for this was a couple of minutes from

1297
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: don't lie about where the beach houses, just be honest,

1298
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: trying to Greg, attempting to, you know, talk right over

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Speaker 1: that lady who had a very important note to drop

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01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: about her beach house which wasn't quite on the beach.

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01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles led the Jaguars back from the dead on Sunday,

1302
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: wiping the sixteen point fourth quarter deficit in a seventeen

1303
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: sixteen win at Soldier Field. The hero was a really

1304
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: a Span who's fifty one yard touchdown reception gave Jacksonville

1305
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: its first lead of the game. Boardles needed to win

1306
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: like this, Dennity, Greg, this is a win that a

1307
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles needed. That's what we thought about the last one.

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01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: And then they came and stunk up. But I mean

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01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: down late and having to leave the team back. I

1310
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: know it's good for I'm with you. I'm with you.

1311
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: I think there's reasons for them to have hope. If

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01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: nothing else, they could be tied in the lost column

1313
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: in the division coming out of this game. They needed

1314
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: something to hang their hat around. Their defense has been better.

1315
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: At least the defense gave them a chance to win this.

1316
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: I never thought i'd hear that the hero of the

1317
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: game was a really a spin Your two thousand sixteen

1318
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, ladies and gentlemen, also your two thousand sixteen

1319
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears upset after the game was alshon Jeffrey, who

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01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: had uh six catches for ninety yards in the first

1321
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: half and then finished with seven three. I didn't catch this,

1322
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: but I heard that he was pretty charged up about

1323
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: the bears lack of explosion explosiveness on offense. Mark you

1324
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: caught that right, Yeah, I did, And I think he's

1325
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: got an absolute point. I mean, we've talked about the Bears. Yes,

1326
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: Hoyer is an uptick over Jay Cutler. I'm not sure

1327
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: what that means in the large scope of our earth,

1328
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: but give me a break. The Bears are an identity

1329
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: free offense outside the fact that I like their running back.

1330
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: They've got they Finally, it's weird because in the last

1331
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: couple of weeks these players that if you're self scouting,

1332
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: we're not even playing before. Now you've got Jay Howard

1333
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: on your in your backfield leading the way and Camrath

1334
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: Meredith Levin catches a hunting d thirteen yards after blowing

1335
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: up last week. Now, maybe that's just what's happening in

1336
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: an offense that has nothing else going on, but it's

1337
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: an unpredictable cast of characters in week six year Ashan

1338
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: Jeffrey is the Bears franchise player and he entered this

1339
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: game with fewer targets on the season than Eddie Royal

1340
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: and Zach Miller. Wow, which is damning. And if you're

1341
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: in a contract here, you're damn right here. That's probably

1342
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the angers coming from which takes us

1343
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: to Sunday night night, in front of Al, Chris and

1344
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: the world, the Houston Texans wiped out a fourteen point

1345
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: deficit with less than five minutes to play in regulation,

1346
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: and then after forcing a punt on defense in the

1347
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: overtime period, got a field goal from Nick Novak, who

1348
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: a toned for an earlier p a t miss in

1349
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: the game. Uh. The clinching field goal wins the game

1350
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty three over the Colts at Reliance Stadium. Guys,

1351
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: a game, Mark that and you were struggling Mark when

1352
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: this game went to o T If you want to

1353
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: check out Chris Westling's Twitter feed, you get the exact

1354
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: moment that that that we knew that the Texans were

1355
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: gonna force overtime. Mark in a dark place, Mark your

1356
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: thoughts about this game and this collapsed by the Colts. Well,

1357
01:05:55,360 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: it's all right there, said, I will start speaking and

1358
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: you will not play that again. Um. I don't know

1359
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: what to say. This is such a suppressing, ghastly loss

1360
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: for the Cults, and I think it's fair. We're seeing

1361
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: from some of their beat writers that cover the team

1362
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: for a long time saying that it is the worst

1363
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: loss of the Pagano era, and that is including all

1364
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: the losses to New England. And it feels a little

1365
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: bit heavy handed for a week six game considering the Cults.

1366
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, does anyone have much faith in this team?

1367
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: But this is an epic collapse. I laughed at Greg

1368
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: when he said that they could cut that the Texans

1369
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: had a chance to win this thing with five or

1370
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: six minutes left, and Greg was turned into a complete profit.

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01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: By the way, the Texans have all sorts of garbage

1372
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: issues too, So I don't know who comes out of

1373
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: here smiling. These teams are both headed nowhere. Well, the

1374
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: Texans come out smiling. They played they played terrible. They

1375
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: were totally dominated for fifty five minutes, and they get

1376
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: to be in first place at four and two. I'm

1377
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: not saying they're a good team, but it's a stirring

1378
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: victory for them. Most of their fans left the game

1379
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: the odds and them winning when it's twenty three to nine. Uh.

1380
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: And they haven't what They had one touchdown in the

1381
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: second half, They had three points and six drives in

1382
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: the first after quarterback was playing awful. For them to

1383
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: go touchdown touchdown field goal to win it, I mean,

1384
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't. I don't think they're gonna be a great team,

1385
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be pretty excited. There's no Super Bowl.

1386
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: What was that that was? I mean, brock Osweller is

1387
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: gonna have some great body body language after this one.

1388
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: That was Greg's brock Osweller impression on Thursday, isolated Audio West.

1389
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: Neither of these teams are going to be playing deep

1390
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: into January. Uh. To Mark's point, But at the same time,

1391
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: can heads roll in Indianapolis off a loss like this

1392
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: because it doesn't get much worse. First of all, nobody

1393
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: smile in Houston when brockos wires the quarterback. So I

1394
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: would say, let's not overreact to the Colts blowing this

1395
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: game and out to win the game. Though that's just

1396
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: should have never been there because he played so poorly

1397
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: to put his him in that position. The coaching to

1398
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: have Andrew Luck roll out in a must run situation

1399
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: where you're trying to kill the clock. I didn't get that.

1400
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: How could you bungle that lead at that point in

1401
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: the game. And then we make excuses for Andrew Andrew

1402
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: Luck because he's a superstar talent and he's surrounded by

1403
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 1: garbage by the end of this. By the fourth quarter,

1404
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: he's without Philip doors Set, he's without Dante Moncreep, he's

1405
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: out without Duyne Allen. So he's throwing to guys like

1406
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle, Chester Rogers, Chester Rogers. But he misses the

1407
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: throw to t Y Hilton that he has to make

1408
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: if we're gonna him, if we're gonna consider him a

1409
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: superstar upper to your quarterback. He's got to make that throw.

1410
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: And this is after the game tying touchdown late in

1411
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. The Colts have a chance to move

1412
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: down the field with two timeouts. That gets around midfield,

1413
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: second and nine, and he has t Y Hilton all

1414
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: alone down the right sideline would be probably about a

1415
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: fifteen to eighteen yard game. He gets out of bounds

1416
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: during business on the fringe of field goal range with

1417
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: Mr Automatic out of Vinitarry and Luck can't make the throw.

1418
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: He he short arms it and it's trapped on the

1419
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: ground and they never get closer and they never got

1420
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: a better chance than that to win the game. Well,

1421
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't move the ball in overtime, has a really

1422
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: bad interception going into halftime where they had points on

1423
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: the board, gave up points there. And it's in a

1424
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: game against the team that you can't just give points

1425
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: to because you you had this Texans team down and out.

1426
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: He made a lot of bad throws. They settled for

1427
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: a field goal to go up twenty three to nine

1428
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: when they could have scored a touchdown in that scenario.

1429
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: So a loss like this, everyone's gonna get the blame.

1430
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: But and on the Texans side, I see a team

1431
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: down the stretch that you know, to Chris's point, they

1432
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: don't trust their quarterback. Big night for Lamar Miller, and

1433
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: it might be more big afternoons for Lamar Miller. Because

1434
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: but that that said, you have to you have to

1435
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: be able to throw the ball to get out of

1436
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: these games. And you know, yes, brock Ostwelder had a

1437
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: couple of nice tosses at the end. But what a

1438
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: disastrous season so far for brock Ostwalder and the amount

1439
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: of money you put into it. That's a whole front

1440
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: office and staff that needs to be questioned. Well again, though,

1441
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't the game to me to go off

1442
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: on the brock Oswylder tangent, because this could be a

1443
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 1: game he builds off. I mean that was that was

1444
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: a big time throw to tie the game where he's

1445
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: stuck in between the quarterback and the safety um and

1446
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: we don't think he's a stud, but that is a

1447
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: game he could build off. I think the Texans have

1448
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: to be extremely thrilled that he played such a key

1449
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: role in that comeback because they needed him to do

1450
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: something like that. I don't get and I don't get

1451
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: that sense at all. I think little credit for that.

1452
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: This is the danger you get in when you see

1453
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: guys like Zach Mettenberger and make a thrower two and

1454
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 1: you you start to say this guy is good. They

1455
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 1: can build around him. No, he's the same kind of

1456
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: quarterback as Zach Mettenberger. He's got a long delivery, he's

1457
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: got fundamental flaws, and they go two and three quarters

1458
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: at a time without moving the offense, and that isn't

1459
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: something to build upon the problem. And then you have

1460
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: the battle of Frank Gore, who you may have heard

1461
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: the Colts hadn't had a one hundred yard rusher for

1462
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 1: three and a half years, which covered fifty uh five games,

1463
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: and it was the new The Chiefs don't have a

1464
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: touchdown from a wide receiver stat de jure, and it

1465
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 1: got wiped out. And this was almost a fitting way

1466
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: for a subplot of this game, a representation of the

1467
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: entire game. On his twentieth carry, he hits the one

1468
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: hundred yard marker twenty for a hundred, and then in

1469
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: slow motion you see the way things are setting up

1470
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: late in the fourth quarter where Frank's gonna get the

1471
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 1: ball with nine men in the box and he gets

1472
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: stuff for a one yard loss down to so he

1473
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: loses it. The Cults even sent down a tweet congratulating

1474
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: him for the one hundred yard rushing performance he gets

1475
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: in an overtime though so but I thought that was

1476
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: a fitting like slop show for this type of game,

1477
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: because you win the game if he doesn't break the

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Speaker 1: hundred and now they get a hollow meaningless numbers, which

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Speaker 1: this Colts team has been all of that last points.

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Speaker 1: Go get my lunch some let's all guests win. Chuck

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Speaker 1: Pecan though and Ryan Griggson are showing the door in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: both of them, or they're let's not. How go go

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Speaker 1: my lunch works? You gotta throw something out. No, that

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Speaker 1: is how it goes. Just like what I'm gonna I'll

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Speaker 1: go with Black Monday. I think they'll last season, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's over. I would tend to agree with

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Speaker 1: you because this division is so uh milk toasts, so bland,

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Speaker 1: so when will buy any of them? Right? And and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean because there's twelve teams that make the

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Speaker 1: playoffs that um, twelve teams are deserving other playoffs. We

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Speaker 1: need playoff realignment number one versus one of these a

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Speaker 1: f C South teams squeaking in to get waxed in January.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna get it, all right. I think you

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Speaker 1: nailed it, Black Monday. Um, all right, that's it for

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Speaker 1: Sunday Show, our flagship program. Thank you to everyone for

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Speaker 1: listening and making it the most popular UH Sunday podcast

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Speaker 1: that the NFL universe has to offer. I think just

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Speaker 1: that the world has to offer. Let's world, UH you.

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Speaker 1: Next time you'll hear from us, it will be Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: where we will recap the final game of Week six,

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Speaker 1: which is my New York Jets traveling to Arizona to

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Speaker 1: face the Cardinals, and then we'll look ahead to week seven.

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Speaker 1: So the wheel keeps spinning, Let's get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Guess all right, Mark, you get to go home. Then

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Speaker 1: hands is signing off for a quiet Star, the mail Man,

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Speaker 1: the Boston la sid behind the glass until Tuesday. Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night's about to happen